Stand on Guard with David Krayden - Bernier EXPOSES What Retaliatory Tariffs Really Are ｜ Stand on Guard

00:00:00.880 And yeah, we're probably going to keep booing the American anthem.

00:00:07.360 Yes, isn't that incredible?

00:00:10.400 That's Justin Trudeau's response to anything.

00:00:13.160 Boo the national anthem of the United States.

00:00:15.740 When we come back momentarily, my special guest,

00:00:20.160 the Honorable Maxime Bernier, leader of the People's Party of Canada,

00:00:23.880 and he offers a fresh perspective on the tariff situation

00:00:28.920 and on the ongoing attempts to stop the war in Ukraine.

00:00:34.660 When we come back.

00:00:47.380 We need it, but it's a change.

00:00:52.880 But we also need to resolve to resist.

00:00:58.920 So it's my great pleasure to have Maxime Bernier on the show.

00:01:08.740 And I always like to say, and everybody won't get this,

00:01:12.920 but who is John Galt in Canada?

00:01:15.480 It's Maxime Bernier.

00:01:18.000 This is a former foreign affairs minister and industry minister

00:01:22.080 in the Stephen Harper government.

00:01:24.720 I knew him well in those days when I worked in the Hill.

00:01:27.140 He's a small, fantastic minister, but always a principled conservative.

00:01:31.820 Small c, principled conservative, and he still is today.

00:01:36.380 And I wanted to start the show here with this clip from Justin Trudeau, 0.97

00:01:42.220 making an absolute ass of himself yesterday. 0.96

00:01:46.720 And Donald Trump noticed, but so did you. 0.98

00:01:49.420 And we'll get to your ex post in a second.

00:01:51.240 As we reflect on the impacts on Canadian workers and Canadian jobs and businesses,

00:01:57.320 is that, first of all, there will be similar impacts on Americans losing their jobs,

00:02:05.380 American families paying more for basic goods that they rely on at a time where times are tight everywhere.

00:02:12.640 I want to speak directly to one specific American.

00:02:18.220 Donald.

00:02:19.980 In the over eight years you and I have worked together, we've done big things.

00:02:28.420 Now, it's not in my habit to agree with the Wall Street Journal,

00:02:32.000 but Donald, they point out that even though you're a very smart guy, 0.99

00:02:37.880 this is a very dumb thing to do.

00:02:41.220 We're going to choose to try to buy Canadian products and forego bourbon and other classic American products. 0.98

00:02:51.480 And yeah, we're probably going to keep booing the American anthem.

00:02:55.780 But let me tell Americans, we're not booing you.

00:02:58.820 We're not booing your teams.

00:03:00.180 Uh-huh.

00:03:02.280 And your response to this on X yesterday, Maxine, 1.00

00:03:07.380 was escalating the trade war with the U.S. is as stupid as escalating the military war with Russia. 1.00

00:03:13.740 Amen to that. 0.99

00:03:14.840 There is nothing rational in how politicians in Canada are reacting to Trump's tariffs.

00:03:19.980 Hysteria and self-defeating behavior are the new default mode of our governments.

00:03:24.320 We're only going to hurt ourselves and more.

00:03:26.440 Now, I noted as well that Chris Pavlovsky, a Canadian expatriate who's living in the States right now in charge of Rumble,

00:03:35.060 which is really one of the only free speech organs out there in terms of social media, with the exception of X,

00:03:41.540 he says, now that we've seen all the Canadian party leaders react to the U.S. tariffs and politics of the last month,

00:03:47.660 who would be best to serve as the Canadian prime minister?

00:03:50.900 Chris asked in a poll.

00:03:52.760 Well, Jagmeet gets 1.4 percent.

00:03:54.980 Justin Trudeau, 2.8 percent.

00:03:57.260 Pierre Pauly, 43.5 percent.

00:03:59.760 And you, Mr. Bernier, 52.3 percent in Chris Pavlovsky's poll.

00:04:05.600 Now, I guess two questions.

00:04:08.620 Are you heartened by the fact that you are really responding to this tariff crisis in a way that Justin Trudeau is incapable of doing

00:04:16.860 and Pierre Pauly doesn't seem to want to do?

00:04:22.460 And is Justin Trudeau absolutely going off his nut here

00:04:27.940 when he insists upon antagonizing Donald Trump even more?

00:04:37.840 Thank you for asking.

00:04:39.540 I'm very pleased to be with you, David.

00:04:42.000 Before answering your question, I have a message for Pauly, Trudeau, and Carney. 0.97

00:04:51.400 Hey, guys, this is a very dumb thing to do.

00:04:56.400 When you are imposing tariffs on us, 25 percent, it is on us. 0.97

00:05:03.740 It is on Canadian consumers. 0.82

00:05:06.380 So, Pierre, Justin, and Mark, stop doing dumb things to Canadians. 0.84

00:05:14.060 So, that is my answer for them. 0.79

00:05:18.440 Well, I heard you on Redacted yesterday.

00:05:23.140 You referred to these counter-tariffs as a tax on Canadians.

00:05:27.560 Now, why can't Pierre Pauly, who is supposed to be a small C as well as a large C conservative, put that together?

00:05:35.460 Because, yes, these are going to be onerous taxes on Canadians.

00:05:39.840 And, in fact, if you look at this graph here, we are in the realm of Great Depression, not just recession,

00:05:50.060 if we do these counter-tariffs, because Trump has promised to come back with more tariffs.

00:05:55.140 We are in a hugely fragile territory here.

00:05:59.080 And, of course, there are 4,000 items on Canada's 25 percent retaliatory counter-tariff list, including most of the food we eat.

00:06:09.600 A lot of things liberals don't like us to have as well, such as firearms, even tires are on this list.

00:06:16.340 This is going to be catastrophic.

00:06:17.800 And yet the liberals, and I'll play a clip from Pauly in a second, but he's in the same boat here.

00:06:24.100 He's not saying anything any different.

00:06:28.120 And I find that absolutely disturbing.

00:06:33.360 Yes, you're right, David.

00:06:35.560 First, Canadians must understand that the tariffs that Trump is imposing, we won't pay for that.

00:06:45.880 We, as Canadian consumers, we won't.

00:06:50.140 You know, these tariffs will be paid by businesses, American businesses and American consumers.

00:06:58.120 That's the reality.

00:06:59.940 What Trudeau is doing right now, by imposing tariffs on goods that we import from America, from the United States,

00:07:10.360 it is us who will pay for that.

00:07:13.220 And, yes, the list is right.

00:07:15.880 The prices of your grocery will increase, you know, and the inflation will be higher.

00:07:24.140 We will pay for that.

00:07:25.540 And, actually, what we must do is just wait and see, because these tariffs will have an impact on American consumers.

00:07:36.640 Everything that Trump, the 25% tariffs coming from Trump, everything that will come from Canada, so American consumers will have to pay more.

00:07:50.740 That being said, Trump did a campaign on managing inflation in the U.S.

00:07:58.380 That is inflationary.

00:08:00.300 So, that would create inflation.

00:08:02.300 So, I believe that these tariffs cannot be there for, you know, too long.

00:08:08.460 Trump will have some pressures coming from businesses in the U.S.

00:08:13.920 So, we need to wait and see, but what we can do for our economy is to be sure that we'll have a real free trade in this country,

00:08:24.680 to lower taxes to Canadians, to have a flat tax on business, to abolish the capital gains tax, to have a smaller government in Ottawa that won't have any deficit,

00:08:41.940 to balance the budget as soon as possible, to cut all the spending that we are giving to the U.N. and foreign aid.

00:08:50.000 So, we can do a lot here in Canada to have a better and a more productive economy, and that's the solution. 0.99

00:08:59.260 But re-imposing counter-tariffs, that is stupid, like I wrote, that is a dumb policy. 0.97

00:09:09.180 And answering your question, why all these establishment politicians are doing that, 0.99

00:09:14.780 is because they did what they did to us during the COVID hysteria.

00:09:19.840 They use fear and propaganda.

00:09:23.880 And so, now, if you look at the survey and the public opinion, a majority of Canadians are very mad at Donald Trump,

00:09:34.020 and they want their government to do something.

00:09:38.320 And so, the government decided to do that, and Poliev is the leader of the opposition,

00:09:44.900 as in his only goal is to be prime minister.

00:09:49.280 He's not doing politics with conviction.

00:09:51.940 He's not, you know, having real conservative policy.

00:09:56.320 He's looking at the polls, and he knows that he will have more chances to be elected

00:10:02.100 if he's going to the left and try to split the liberal votes.

00:10:08.140 That's what he's doing right now.

00:10:09.920 And so, you know, during COVID, it took us two years to change the public opinion

00:10:15.760 for these draconian measures to stop.

00:10:19.660 And now, you know, the public opinion, they don't want to educate the public opinion.

00:10:24.700 They don't want to inform the public opinion.

00:10:27.480 They don't want to tell them the truth about Economy 101.

00:10:30.880 So, and they're telling the public opinion, they're telling Canadians, it will hurt.

00:10:37.060 You know, it will be difficult.

00:10:39.320 Yes, but it has not to be as difficult.

00:10:43.040 What they're doing, it would be more difficult.

00:10:48.240 It would be very dangerous for our economy, and we may go to a recession because of that.

00:10:55.960 So stop, don't impose any tariffs, work on your own economy, on the Canadian economy,

00:11:02.260 to be sure that it would be more productive.

00:11:04.700 That's the solution.

00:11:06.560 So it's very, very disappointing.

00:11:09.860 We can see now that these politicians are, you know, not working in the best interest of Canadians.

00:11:16.400 What they're doing is the opposite.

00:11:19.620 So it's, and I'm looking, I look to the next election, and I hope it will be as soon as possible,

00:11:30.080 because we will be out there and tell the truth to Canadians about that.

00:11:35.140 We have the only real and good solutions for Canadians, for us to be more prosperous.

00:11:42.880 Now they are doing the opposite.

00:11:44.860 It is sad.

00:11:46.100 All these politicians are the same.

00:11:48.300 And I said a long time ago that Poliev and Trudeau are the same.

00:11:53.180 They are the Lib-Con political party.

00:11:56.000 And Poliev's goal is to split the liberal votes.

00:11:58.920 And he's showing us again in this crisis.

00:12:04.300 So you're basically saying, stop talking about counter-terrorists, because it's going to invite further disaster.

00:12:11.820 Just cool it.

00:12:12.720 We can resolve this.

00:12:14.420 Because here's Donald Trump's response to Justin Trudeau yesterday.

00:12:18.020 He said, please explain to Governor Trudeau of Canada that when he puts on a retaliatory tariff on the U.S.,

00:12:23.580 our reciprocal tariff will immediately increase by a like amount.

00:12:26.920 So we could be looking at 75% increase, which, of course, will be absolutely catastrophic to the economy.

00:12:35.120 But once again, I don't see this message sinking in.

00:12:39.700 It's interesting to watch Trudeau at these news conferences. 0.97

00:12:42.500 He's got the usual three dummies behind him. 0.91

00:12:45.440 He's got Dominic LeBlanc and David McGinty and Melanie Jolie standing behind him.

00:12:53.640 But they look increasingly worried he's not getting this at all.

00:12:58.660 And I just find that his attitude, as his days are supposedly numbered, you know, now he's not saying exactly when he's going to be leaving as prime minister.

00:13:09.880 It might take a while.

00:13:11.280 We need some transition.

00:13:12.360 But I don't think Justin Trudeau understands what's going on here.

00:13:20.520 And here's Pierre Paglia reacting to this yesterday.

00:13:24.360 And like I say, this get tough with Donald Trump, I understand why he's doing it.

00:13:32.420 I know he thinks he has to do it.

00:13:34.680 But it's the wrong thing to do, as you've already said.

00:13:38.640 At 10 a.m., President Trump stabbed America's best friend in the back.

00:13:44.460 My message to the president is this.

00:13:47.080 Canada will fight back.

00:13:49.620 We will defend our people and our economy.

00:13:52.440 And we will put Canada first.

00:13:55.780 There is no doubt that our economy will suffer.

00:13:58.940 But so will yours, President Trump.

00:14:00.900 In fact, you're already paying the price with trillions of dollars erased in stock market value over the last month of these threats.

00:14:08.760 Already, Americans are paying higher gas prices.

00:14:11.960 As at midnight, a new American gas tax kicked in on U.S. working class taxpayers and motorists.

00:14:21.500 Your workers will soon start losing jobs.

00:14:24.520 Jobs they had upgrading Canadian raw materials, which, by the way, you were getting at an incredible and ridiculous bargain.

00:14:32.800 And your businesses will be selling fewer products to your closest neighbor.

00:14:38.640 So, there he goes.

00:14:40.680 Once again, I'm going to get tough with Donald Trump.

00:14:43.620 And it might be catastrophic.

00:14:45.360 It might be no-holds barred.

00:14:48.760 But we can take it.

00:14:50.300 No, we can't, Paulie.

00:14:51.740 We cannot take 75%.

00:14:52.520 And I think more and more people are waking up to what you're saying, is that just cool it.

00:14:59.160 And I interviewed Daniel Smith, Alberta Premier, about a week and a half ago.

00:15:04.100 And that's exactly the advice she had.

00:15:06.740 Cool it.

00:15:07.920 Don't strike back.

00:15:09.520 Let's negotiate.

00:15:10.900 Let's resolve this.

00:15:12.300 Let's find a solution.

00:15:14.180 But we can't win a trade war with the United States.

00:15:17.740 There's no way that's ever going to happen.

00:15:20.680 So, back off.

00:15:22.820 Don't make these threats.

00:15:24.540 But I don't see that message getting through.

00:15:26.720 And you mentioned the COVID thing.

00:15:28.400 I see the same thing happening again.

00:15:30.740 It's like we're only being shown one way out of this, which is to raise the ground, to absolutely strike back, and just to hell with the consequences.

00:15:41.320 And that's all we heard during the first part of COVID, of course, until the Freedom Convoy demanded change.

00:15:47.440 But all we heard from all of the media, from the government, from the official opposition, just follow the mandates.

00:15:56.760 Follow the advice of the government.

00:15:58.540 There is no other alternative.

00:16:00.560 So, thank God.

00:16:01.540 Somebody else out there is actually saying there is an alternative.

00:16:07.680 There's another discourse here.

00:16:09.420 But we're not talking about it.

00:16:11.420 I think you're the only politician in Canada who's actually talking about another way out here.

00:16:17.240 Absolutely, David.

00:16:18.600 And if the clip that you did show us about Poliev, his description of what will happen in the U.S. economy because of the 25% tariffs that Trump did impose on his economy, the description is great.

00:16:40.380 That is real.

00:16:41.740 That is what will happen in the U.S.

00:16:44.100 But now, just after that, he's doing the same thing.

00:16:48.320 All what he said to the U.S., loss of job, prices that will increase.

00:16:54.640 It will be the same with our 25% tariffs that is okay with that, that is ready to impose on us.

00:17:02.360 So, he's telling Donald Trump what you're doing for your economy is very bad.

00:17:08.200 Your people will lose their jobs and prices will go up.

00:17:12.320 And he's doing the same thing here in Canada.

00:17:15.620 And he's telling us that it's for our good.

00:17:18.920 It is for, you know, our best interest.

00:17:23.380 That's crazy.

00:17:26.480 Yeah, that's crazy.

00:17:28.140 And a lot of people forget, because things are bad enough, that there's another carbon tax increase coming, which will certainly, certainly be added.

00:17:37.140 And, but what is really frightening, and once again, I think this is something you need to talk about, because I haven't heard a peep out of Poliev or the Conservatives about Mark Carney's plan for a carbon tariff.

00:17:49.660 And here, he describes it here.

00:17:51.120 The thing we're going to do is to ensure that there's fair competition for our companies, and that we penalize high-polluting foreign imports. 0.98

00:18:02.060 So, we're going to develop a carbon border adjustment mechanism.

00:18:04.980 What that does is promote jobs here at home, it prevents carbon leakage abroad, and it aligns Canada with our allies who are still engaged in the fight against climate change.

00:18:19.840 So, here he is talking about a carbon tariff, and he refers to this, of course, in this very nebulous way, and like it's just something out there that's going to help Canadian businesses, except it's going to probably promote the expulsion of most businesses in Canada who are saying,

00:18:45.920 no, I'm not going to pay for this, why, why shouldn't I go to the United States where there's no carbon tax, there's no corporate carbon tax, and there's no carbon tariff that I have to worry about now.

00:18:57.000 But, once again, I have been talking about this for the last three weeks.

00:19:01.660 I haven't heard the Conservative Party of Canada even mention that Mark Carney wants to introduce a carbon tariff in addition to the corporate carbon tax that he keeps talking about,

00:19:11.720 which he claims is going to be less onerous than the personal carbon tax that we're all paying right now.

00:19:17.520 But he's essentially going to double the carbon tax in Canada with this tariff, with the corporate carbon tax, which they'll pass on to consumers, of course.

00:19:28.360 And yet, we're supposed to think Mark Carney is figuring a solution here?

00:19:32.940 I mean, what do you think about this carbon tariff that he's talking about?

00:19:37.800 Yeah, you know, Carney and Poliev on that, you know, they share the same position.

00:19:45.380 They are in line with the Paris Accord, and all that is happening because of the Paris Accord.

00:19:52.620 We will withdraw from the Paris Accord. That's it.

00:19:56.140 Poliev won't, Carney won't.

00:19:58.240 Poliev will fight climate change by imposing more regulations on businesses,

00:20:02.940 and, you know, they will transfer their costs to us consumers.

00:20:08.060 Carney will do a different thing.

00:20:10.080 He will impose tariffs, and as I just said, a tariff is a tax, a tax on us, so he will impose us.

00:20:18.780 So both of them won't impose a carbon tax, but they will find a new way to tax us.

00:20:26.720 And Poliev, by regulation and prices, will be higher for us.

00:20:31.360 And Carney, by that, you know, carbon tariff, so it's a tax.

00:20:38.420 That's why Poliev is not winning right now.

00:20:42.300 That's why Poliev is going down in the polls, because he is like the liberals.

00:20:48.000 He is a liberal light.

00:20:49.500 If people want a real change, if people, they want a politician and a political party that will put Canada first, for real, and that will work for Canadians, we are there.

00:21:03.240 We are the only national political party.

00:21:06.120 The PPC will do that.

00:21:07.600 It's certainly the only political party even talking about it right now, because it's like this language isn't even being recognized.

00:21:16.720 This carbon tariff isn't even being recognized by the Conservative Party of Canada.

00:21:22.760 And I haven't heard anything from anybody about how this is going to be catastrophic for the economy.

00:21:29.080 But, you know, you basically answered my next question as to why is Pierre Poliev in lockstep with the Trudeau government right now?

00:21:38.420 It's like when I hear Pierre Poliev talk, I'm thinking, is this a Trudeau cabinet minister at the moment?

00:21:43.940 Because he's talking exactly like Justin Trudeau.

00:21:46.960 And it's it is this a is this a policy problem or is it a communication problem?

00:21:54.280 Because you were in government with Stephen Harper.

00:21:57.080 You know what the conservative communications likes to do.

00:22:01.240 As soon as there's a crisis, move the party to the left, act and talk like liberals.

00:22:07.180 But do you think this is really a policy problem and not just a communication problem?

00:22:12.880 It's a policy, you know, it's fundamental.

00:22:16.920 You know, Harper did that during the financial crisis.

00:22:21.900 He, you know, created at that time the biggest deficit of the history of our country.

00:22:28.260 Yes, he was able for five years later to balance the budget in 2015.

00:22:32.940 But he did create that deficit.

00:22:35.980 And, you know, when you have a deficit, the deficit of today are the taxes of tomorrow and the inflation of tomorrow.

00:22:44.560 So, yeah, when there's a crisis, they're they're not conservative.

00:22:48.960 They don't want to manage a smaller government.

00:22:51.200 They want to spend money that we don't have.

00:22:54.720 Harper did that. 1.00

00:22:55.740 And Poliev is doing the same, is going to the left, like the liberals, to fight that supposed crisis.

00:23:02.840 The crisis that we are having, it's not the tariffs that Trump is imposing on American consumers.

00:23:10.520 It's our reaction to these tariffs.

00:23:13.820 And the crisis that we have, it's it's our economy.

00:23:18.080 We need to balance the budget.

00:23:20.280 We need to have a smaller government. 0.72

00:23:22.920 We need to do everything to be able to give more freedom to Canadians.

00:23:28.780 And the best way to do that is to buy lower their taxes.

00:23:32.200 So Poliev is is like Trudeau on that.

00:23:36.200 He will, you know, worsen the economy with these tariffs.

00:23:41.480 And, you know, his goal is to split the liberal votes.

00:23:44.560 I cannot say better than that.

00:23:46.840 Well, do you think it's actually possible now that Canadians are going to be fooled by Mark Carney masquerading as some kind of moderate?

00:23:58.540 He's he's actually posturing as some sort of pure poly of light, like he's just a bit left of pure poly of much more serious than Justin Trudeau.

00:24:08.380 This is a man with the personality of a reptile.

00:24:10.840 He is completely unengaging. 0.97

00:24:13.520 I find his public speaking is is horrible.

00:24:17.200 His French is horrible from a party that demands bilingualism as a prerequisite to be leader. 1.00

00:24:24.000 And yet he's being sold to the Canadian people as the savior of the Liberal Party and the savior of Canada.

00:24:30.440 And yet I think he's even more dangerous than Justin Trudeau because people tend to take him more seriously.

00:24:37.340 Now, you were in government when Mark Carney was governor of Bank of Canada.

00:24:42.600 And, you know, and supposedly he almost became our finance minister.

00:24:45.840 But what is what is your feeling about Mark Carney is as a as a danger, as an even greater danger than Justin Trudeau has been?

00:24:53.980 He is. He is the globalist in chief and he's a big globalist, a big spender.

00:25:02.720 He will spend the money that we don't have.

00:25:04.880 And he tried to tell us that he will balance the budget, the operation budget and take our budget and, you know, say, oh, there's two kind of spending, the spending and the investment.

00:25:18.800 No, what the federal government, when the federal government is spending, that's not an investment.

00:25:23.020 That's spending. So he will try to find a way to tell Canadians that, oh, he is balancing the operation budget.

00:25:31.440 No, you need to balance the global budget and he won't do that.

00:25:35.440 So, yes, Carney is a little bit as dangerous as Trudeau.

00:25:40.980 But now Poliev is speaking like the Liberals.

00:25:44.200 So, you know, we we are the only other options. 0.99

00:25:49.180 All these options sucks right now.

00:25:51.760 You know, they're they're they're not it's so sad to see what Poliev is doing right now. 0.98

00:25:58.580 And don't forget, the one that is giving advice to Poliev is Stephen Hopper.

00:26:05.720 Stephen Hopper wrote a letter in the Global Mail two weekends ago.

00:26:11.020 And he said, we must impose these tariffs that will hurt our economy that may bring us into a recession.

00:26:19.840 But that's the best thing to do.

00:26:21.940 So he's telling Canadians, you know, I love you so much that we need to tax you more and, you know, you will lose your jobs.

00:26:32.020 But that's OK.

00:26:33.900 So and he's saying that by we need to do that because we want to preserve our sovereignty.

00:26:40.840 We are a sovereign country.

00:26:43.120 You know, the 50 first states.

00:26:46.300 It's a joke.

00:26:47.660 He won't do anything.

00:26:48.920 He won't be able to conquer military or country.

00:26:52.840 We are his neighbors.

00:26:54.520 He won't do that.

00:26:55.540 He is not Hitler.

00:26:56.440 This country is sovereign and we don't need to impose more taxes on Canadians to try to look like, you know, we have the best interests of our country.

00:27:08.240 They don't.

00:27:09.240 Nobody, no leaders today, including the former conservative Hopper, no leaders today have our interests at heart.

00:27:20.640 They are working against us right now.

00:27:23.600 Well, I think that's, you know, you were in the Stephen Harper cabinet and he did disappoint conservatives very, very, very many times.

00:27:34.000 And so, you know, thank you for thank you for acknowledging that.

00:27:37.580 But if you're probably like.

00:27:40.000 I just want to say about that, Hopper.

00:27:42.780 Yeah.

00:27:43.600 The only question for your viewers, what is the legacy of Stephen Hopper?

00:27:49.620 After 90 years in power, did he did a real conservative reform?

00:27:54.560 What is the legacy?

00:27:56.000 Zero.

00:27:56.680 Yeah.

00:27:57.140 Except maybe he dismantled the wheat board.

00:28:01.300 That's the only legacy.

00:28:03.400 So because his logic was incremental.

00:28:07.080 You know, I will do little reform and reforms and, you know, everything will go well.

00:28:13.920 I was with him in 2006.

00:28:16.520 We had a major minority government.

00:28:18.620 I understand why, you know, Hopper was unable to do big reforms.

00:28:24.120 We didn't have the majority.

00:28:25.840 2008, another minority government.

00:28:29.140 2011, we had a national majority government.

00:28:34.420 I said at that time to myself, we will be a real conservative government.

00:28:39.600 We will do some privatization.

00:28:41.520 We will balance the budget.

00:28:42.880 We will cut taxes.

00:28:44.700 No, he did the opposite.

00:28:46.660 He was spending more.

00:28:48.160 He did increase the equalization formula to be able to give more money to Quebec to try to buy votes in Quebec.

00:28:56.980 He was more generous.

00:28:58.840 And by doing that, that was hurting Western Canada.

00:29:01.680 So he was taking the votes of Western Canada for granted.

00:29:07.640 And Poliev is doing the same.

00:29:09.640 So it's why I said the Conservative Party of Canada is morally and intellectually corrupt.

00:29:17.500 They don't promote real conservative ideas and they are speaking like liberals and when they are doing that, they are giving more credibility to the leftist narrative.

00:29:28.740 I think of what you're saying there, all of that pandering that Stephen Harper did to the liberals, to the left of center, to the red Tories, to those so-called moderates in the Conservative Party.

00:29:43.980 And he still lost the next election to Justin Trudeau.

00:29:47.680 All of that pandering for nothing.

00:29:49.520 And because he was listening to a communications team, many of whom I know, and they're back with Poliev.

00:29:56.800 You know who I'm talking about.

00:29:58.600 They're back with Poliev and they're giving him the same advice they gave Stephen Harper.

00:30:02.180 And they're going to run the same election campaign as they ran for Stephen Harper in 2015, which was disastrous because it was a campaign all about Stephen Harper.

00:30:13.700 And what was he about anymore?

00:30:15.000 Well, he really couldn't define himself as a Conservative.

00:30:17.540 But I want to ask you this because Poliev loves to talk about Canada First now.

00:30:22.780 And, of course, that came out of the fact that people were saying, are you too mega?

00:30:27.600 Are you a Trump supporter?

00:30:29.460 So, suddenly, Poliev talked about Canada First.

00:30:33.320 I'm not sure what he even means by that anymore.

00:30:35.960 He loves to use that as rhetoric.

00:30:38.080 He puts it out there every day.

00:30:39.480 I'm Canada First.

00:30:40.420 I'm Canada First.

00:30:41.780 I'm not sure what it is.

00:30:43.180 What is Canada First to you, Maxime?

00:30:47.920 First, for Poliev, it is a slogan.

00:30:51.460 It is an empty, empty slogan.

00:30:54.140 Like all these slogans, you know.

00:30:55.900 Fix the budget.

00:30:57.140 Hacks the tax.

00:30:58.040 With no policies behind that.

00:31:02.560 So, for us, it is not an empty slogan.

00:31:05.780 It is a reality.

00:31:07.260 What I'm saying, we need to put Canada First and Canadian First. 0.70

00:31:12.140 You know, that is what I said when we created the People's Party of Canada in 2018.

00:31:17.580 I said, this political party will put Canadians first.

00:31:22.100 We will work for our country.

00:31:23.800 And with policies, for example, like I said, withdraw from the Paris Accord.

00:31:30.500 That is putting Canada First.

00:31:32.720 You know, withdraw from the UN Global Compact on Migration.

00:31:37.360 That is putting Canada First and Canadian First, not foreigners and migrants. 0.99

00:31:43.740 That is putting our Canadians first. 0.99

00:31:46.220 You know, having a moratorium on immigration.

00:31:49.420 That is putting Canada First.

00:31:51.220 A pause on immigration.

00:31:52.660 Because, you know, young Canadians will be able to have a job.

00:31:56.820 Now, they will not be able because we are importing cheap labor for big businesses.

00:32:03.200 So, and they are cheating.

00:32:05.780 They don't respect our immigration legislations.

00:32:08.400 We have a lot of illegal migrants in this country.

00:32:13.620 We need to deport them. 0.72

00:32:15.160 That is putting Canada First.

00:32:17.900 I can go on about the woke agenda.

00:32:24.240 You know, we need to end that woke agenda.

00:32:27.480 All that radical leftist agenda.

00:32:30.740 You know, the transition of kids.

00:32:33.300 There's no transition.

00:32:35.140 A young boy cannot be a young girl. 1.00

00:32:37.960 There's only two sexes. 1.00

00:32:40.320 That is putting our values, Canadian and Western values, first.

00:32:45.220 So, not the leftist and woke ideology.

00:32:49.080 We need to fight that.

00:32:50.640 The fact that, you know, a biological man can compete against women in sport.

00:32:57.380 That's not fair.

00:32:58.880 That's not in line with our values, Western values.

00:33:02.420 That is not putting our values and Canada First.

00:33:05.620 We need to end that.

00:33:07.000 So, if you look at our platform, we are putting our country first on foreign aid.

00:33:13.980 Foreign aid, all that money that is going to other countries.

00:33:17.760 Eight billion dollars.

00:33:20.260 We need to stop that and bring it home, like Poliev liked to say.

00:33:26.140 You know, bring it home, that money coming from, that we are giving to foreign aid for the promotion of woke ideology.

00:33:34.000 We need to stop that, bring that home, and help Canadians first.

00:33:40.160 That is putting Canada First.

00:33:42.420 Poliev doesn't have any policies that is showing that is serious when he's saying that he's putting Canada First.

00:33:51.780 It's only an empty slogan, and more and more people can see through that now.

00:33:57.180 I hope that's the case, because, you know, he likes to talk about a bring it home tax cut.

00:34:04.960 I'm not even sure what that is, because it doesn't have a number in front of it.

00:34:09.300 It's a slogan, like you say.

00:34:11.480 But another thing that disturbs me right now, and this really got me irate last week,

00:34:15.340 when Poliev decided he had to get his voice out there in support of Ukraine again.

00:34:27.840 Sorry, I've just lost Maxime here.

00:34:33.660 I don't know.

00:34:35.800 Anyway, hopefully Maxime will be able to join us again.

00:34:39.460 We did have 35 minutes with him.

00:34:42.400 I was about to ask him about Ukraine, and whether or not he believes it's a wise idea to keep pouring billions of dollars.

00:34:50.660 Okay, yeah.

00:34:52.140 Yeah, you're back.

00:34:52.880 Thank you.

00:34:53.360 Okay.

00:34:54.040 Yeah, basically, next to last question is, Poliev is always propping up the corrupt regime in Ukraine. 0.78

00:35:03.500 We know that President Vladimir Zelensky is a tyrant. 0.82

00:35:10.200 He's a dictator. 0.95

00:35:11.040 He jails his opposition.

00:35:12.940 He goes around.

00:35:13.700 He rounds up people to put them in the army as cannon fodder.

00:35:18.820 The war needs to end.

00:35:20.120 We have to stop putting billions of dollars of our money.

00:35:24.260 And by the way, true to the last, we talked about $5 billion of seized Russian assets or stolen Russian assets.

00:35:31.680 He doesn't have $5 billion of seized Russian assets.

00:35:35.440 I looked it up.

00:35:36.460 It's about $150,000 he's seized in Russian assets.

00:35:40.700 So he lied about giving Ukraine another $5 billion.

00:35:44.820 But it's not going to be taxpayer money.

00:35:46.560 It's going to be seized Russian assets.

00:35:49.120 I say it's time to stop giving Ukraine aid, to stop the war, and to stop propping up one of the most corrupt regimes in Eastern Europe. 0.64

00:35:58.420 What do you say?

00:35:59.200 You're absolutely right on that, David.

00:36:02.960 That's what we said in the beginning of that crisis, of that war.

00:36:08.900 We said Canada must not participate in that.

00:36:11.940 We must not give money to Ukraine.

00:36:14.380 Ukraine is a democracy, yes, but a corrupted democracy.

00:36:18.540 And, you know, that conflict started because of the West, because we didn't respect what we said to the Soviet Union at that time.

00:36:28.560 When the Berlin Wall fall in 1989, we had, after that, the reunification of Germany, East and West.

00:36:39.560 And Kuchnev, you know, said, OK, I'm OK for the reunification of Germany at one condition.

00:36:46.580 I don't want to see the expansion of NATO in the East.

00:36:51.380 And we said, yes, NATO won't have any expansion.

00:36:55.560 And we didn't follow through that.

00:36:57.640 What we did, we had an expansion of NATO in Eastern Europe.

00:37:03.160 And now, you know, we are telling Russia that we want Ukraine to be part of NATO.

00:37:11.020 And if Ukraine is part of NATO, that means that the U.S. and NATO will be able to have a military base in Ukraine at the doors of Russia.

00:37:26.120 It was not OK for the U.S. in 1962, when the Soviet Union wanted to put missiles in Cuba at the doors of the U.S.

00:37:37.960 And now it's OK for us.

00:37:40.340 We can do that.

00:37:42.160 And Putin didn't want that.

00:37:44.740 He told us that many, many times in 2007 and many, many times, don't do that.

00:37:51.100 Don't do that.

00:37:52.160 And now we are pushing Ukraine to be part of NATO.

00:37:55.340 And, you know, the worst of that is the U.S. did not respect in 2019 the treaty that they signed with Russia about the security and the missiles.

00:38:09.280 And, you know, we had a nuclear treaty to manage, you know, missiles, nuclear missiles in Europe.

00:38:17.980 The U.S. decided to withdraw from that.

00:38:20.520 And now, you know, for Russia, they are saying, you know, if Ukraine is part of NATO, they will have a NATO base and they may be able to have nuclear missiles in that base in Ukraine.

00:38:35.620 And I can understand why Putin doesn't want that.

00:38:39.860 And add to that, you know, that Crimea and Donbass were, you know, under Russian jurisdictions a long time ago.

00:38:48.960 These people are speaking Russian.

00:38:51.380 These people wanted to be with Russia.

00:38:53.960 They had a referendum in 2014 and they wanted to be part of Russia.

00:38:58.580 And so what and we are we were telling, you know, Canadians and Europeans that Putin is Hitler.

00:39:07.820 He will conquer Europe is very dangerous.

00:39:11.500 No, he is ready to have a peace negotiation.

00:39:15.980 And actually, he was ready.

00:39:18.660 He did the invasion of Ukraine in February 2022.

00:39:23.040 In April 2022, less than two months after the invasion, he was being ready to negotiate a peace agreement with Zelensky in Istanbul.

00:39:37.100 And Zelensky was OK with that, but he came back to Ukraine and the U.S. and U.K. said, no, don't sign that.

00:39:46.880 So now we have a peace deal.

00:39:49.120 We must accept that and we must stop that war.

00:39:54.840 It's very dangerous for, you know, a third world war.

00:39:58.780 And we have there's a good agreement on the table and you have Trudeau and all these European leaders and Poliev that are saying, we're going to give more munitions to Ukraine.

00:40:11.480 We're going to give more financial aid to Ukraine to be for them to be able to go and do that war again. 0.93

00:40:20.460 You know, the reality is Ukraine lost the war.

00:40:25.180 That's it.

00:40:25.820 And now they must have that peace agreement that is on the table.

00:40:30.700 It is not in the interest of our country.

00:40:32.840 It is not in the interest of the Western world to have that war again, the proxy war against with Russia.

00:40:41.280 Russia is not our enemy.

00:40:43.780 Our enemy here in Canada is our own government and these establishment politicians who are not working in the best interests of our country.

00:40:53.260 You know, when folks that is called common sense policy right there.

00:41:00.480 And I have to say, I, I have Ukrainian lineage.

00:41:03.680 My maternal grandmother was, was Ukrainian.

00:41:07.380 But I think this is insanity today.

00:41:09.520 We came so close to a nuclear war last November when we started sending missiles into Russia.

00:41:15.580 And we came within days of retaliation.

00:41:19.300 Thank God Donald Trump is working for, to our peace, peace solution here.

00:41:24.480 And I also say, I'm not throwing Donald Trump out right now because of this trade dispute.

00:41:28.940 I don't want these tariffs any more than anybody else.

00:41:31.520 I think they're going to be devastating.

00:41:32.800 But he's working very hard on issues that are important to me.

00:41:36.000 And you mentioned some of those, like the DEI, like critical race theory.

00:41:41.240 And, and of course, the whole transgender illusion. 1.00

00:41:44.700 He's working hard to stop those things.

00:41:46.720 I want to work with Donald Trump in Canada to reverse the wave that's come upon this country that Justin Trudeau brought upon us.

00:41:53.900 But final question.

00:41:55.060 You've been very generous with, with your time this morning, Maxine.

00:41:57.580 But do you expect, we're going to have an election sometime this year.

00:42:02.020 I hope it's soon.

00:42:03.100 I hope it's within the next two months.

00:42:05.420 I mean, we need to get rid of this liberal government one way or the other.

00:42:08.160 But we will have an election, I think, this year, unless the liberals somehow keep us going until the next year.

00:42:14.080 But do you think this is the breakthrough year for the People's Party of Canada?

00:42:17.880 And, and second part of this, what do you tell small C conservative voters, libertarian voters, when they say,

00:42:26.200 well, if I vote for the PPC, I'm going to split the vote, and I'm going to get the liberals in power.

00:42:31.060 How do you respond to that?

00:42:33.160 Well, like I said in the beginning, I'm not speaking in a vote, you know, the party heavy splitting the liberal votes.

00:42:39.940 You look at what he's saying and what he's doing in his policies.

00:42:42.920 He's like the liberals.

00:42:43.840 So I'm telling them, you know, if you want to have, you know, if you want to have your ideas and your values to win, you need to vote for what you believe in.

00:42:56.020 You'll have more chances to have what you want if you vote for what you want.

00:43:01.160 And for us, you know, we are the only party that is with you and ready to fight.

00:43:06.680 And, you know, if you increase our percentage of the vote from five to 10 or 15 percent, we may have, and I hope we will, our first candidate elected at this election.

00:43:19.260 And for us, we will be your insurance policy that, you know, in Canada, we are speaking about the real challenges that we have with real common sense conservatives policies.

00:43:33.980 And we are we are able to push that here in Canada.

00:43:37.700 So, you know, we will support Poliev as a political party when Poliev will be a real conservative and we will shame him when he won't.

00:43:48.120 Like I did today.

00:43:49.720 So it's a it's a win for you.

00:43:52.120 If you vote for what you believe, you have more chances to have what you want.

00:43:57.540 So I'm telling you, you know, there's no risk when you vote for your ideas and, you know, voting for us.

00:44:04.320 It's a vote for everything.

00:44:06.760 We don't do any polling and focus group.

00:44:10.100 We are doing politics based on convictions and ideas.

00:44:14.140 And we are speaking about these ideas with passion and conviction.

00:44:18.120 Until we win the battle of ideas.

00:44:20.240 So we need you to be more influential.

00:44:24.040 And, you know, we'll see.

00:44:25.500 But I we are the last chance for this country.

00:44:29.540 If our policies are not adopted here in Canada, this country is falling apart.

00:44:36.960 You know, you have Western Canada that are very mad at Eastern Canada.

00:44:40.900 You know, the equalization formula that is unfair.

00:44:43.820 And we need to change that.

00:44:46.020 And by being radically less generous and change that formula for the benefit of Western Canada.

00:44:54.420 So we need to have this discussion.

00:44:56.800 And we need to have a radical decentralization in our country.

00:45:00.760 That's what we want to do.

00:45:02.160 People, actually, mostly out West, they don't like that big, fat federal government that is telling them what to do or what not to do.

00:45:12.520 We want to end that and give more autonomy to provincial governments and more autonomy and freedom to Canadians.

00:45:20.000 So if you like that, I hope that you'll vote for us.

00:45:23.540 And if you don't like what I'm saying, don't vote for us because we won't change.

00:45:30.120 Well, like you, I always say I applaud the Conservative Party of Canada and Pierre Pauly when they do something that's very, very conservative and principled conservative.

00:45:40.180 I applaud them when they have conservative, true conservative policy.

00:45:43.500 I will criticize them otherwise.

00:45:45.140 I'm not in the pocket of any political party.

00:45:47.180 And, you know, I would criticize you, too, if I disagreed with you or didn't think you were putting out real conservative, small-c conservative libertarian policy.

00:45:56.060 But, you know, I've never found occasion to have to do that because I don't think I've ever heard you say anything policy-wise that I can disagree with.

00:46:05.740 And maybe you will someday.

00:46:07.380 But, you know, my viewers are somewhat evenly split between Conservative Party of Canada supporters and PPC supporters.

00:46:16.200 And I always tell them I'm not in the bag for any political party.

00:46:19.760 I support good conservative, small-c conservative policy.

00:46:24.020 And I'll support any political leader that enunciates it, articulates it.

00:46:28.280 And that's what you always do when you're on my show and anytime I hear you anywhere else.

00:46:33.100 So, Maxine, thank you for coming on the show.

00:46:35.440 You're always welcome here.

00:46:36.900 And I wish you all the best.

00:46:39.480 You're a friend and a politician.

00:46:42.420 And there's not many politicians I have ever admired.

00:46:46.480 But I think you fit the bill.

00:46:48.620 So, thank you for joining me today.

00:46:50.940 Thank you, David, for having me.

00:46:52.980 That's a nice opportunity.

00:46:54.940 And I may say to your viewers, if one of your viewers is, you know, a podcaster or very active on social media, you know, I'm ready to do an interview also.

00:47:06.640 My goal is to be active, you know, on the ground for this election, traveling across the country, but also on social media.

00:47:14.620 As you know, the mainstream media cancel us and they don't want to put our point of view out there.

00:47:21.420 So, we need to be out and speak about our values to Canadians.

00:47:25.180 And we need to be able to reach to more Canadians.

00:47:27.400 So, the fact that you did interview me today, I'm very pleased with that.

00:47:34.560 And so, if other YouTubers or podcasters want the same, they can just write to us at info at people's party of Canada.ca.

00:47:44.340 And if you want to know more, if your viewers want to know more about our policy, they can go on our website, people's party of Canada.ca, and click on platform.

00:47:54.200 All our policies are there.

00:47:55.580 So, thank you, David, for that opportunity.

00:47:58.200 And I hope I'll be able to be with you again during that electoral campaign.

00:48:03.080 You certainly will.

00:48:04.420 You're always welcome here, Maxime.

00:48:06.080 So, thank you again for joining me today.

00:48:08.260 And we will see you soon.

00:48:11.100 Bye for now.

00:48:11.880 Bye-bye.

00:48:13.940 That was Maxime Bernier, who I always enjoy talking to.

00:48:18.080 That's common sense policy, folks.

00:48:19.760 And I think this is a man who really believes in principle of conservatism, principle of libertarianism, and wants to deliver.

00:48:26.980 So, I put that out there.

00:48:28.940 I have a lot of people always say, you're in the bag for poly.

00:48:31.560 No, I'm not.

00:48:32.320 I'm not in the bag for any politician, any political party.

00:48:34.620 I am in the bag for truth, for justice, and for pushing solid conservative policy, wherever it comes from.

00:48:42.840 And that's what I heard today.

00:48:44.140 So, thanks for joining me today.

00:48:45.440 I really appreciate your support and your help.

00:48:48.100 And we'll be back with some concluding.

00:48:51.880 We'll be right back.

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00:49:33.780 Show the fact that you do support small-c conservative ideas and principles.

00:49:38.840 Show people that you do want to resolve to resist this Trudeau government.

00:49:42.980 We need to get rid of it this year as soon as possible.

00:49:46.580 Let's all hope and pray that we get an earlier election.

00:49:49.580 Because this could go on.

00:49:51.260 And the longer it goes on under the liberals, the worse it becomes.

00:49:55.340 We need a change in government.

00:49:57.560 The one that has a mandate from the people.

00:50:01.000 And this one doesn't right now.

00:50:03.200 Thank you again for watching.

00:50:05.100 I'll be back again tomorrow.

00:50:06.320 Tomorrow, with all the news, I can possibly deliver.

00:50:11.360 All the news you need to know so we can continue to resolve.

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Stand on Guard with David Krayden - March 05, 2025

Bernier EXPOSES What Retaliatory Tariffs Really Are ｜ Stand on Guard

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