Stand on Guard with David Krayden - August 07, 2024


🚨BOMBSHELL! 🚨 Biden's DHS Helped Trudeau Censor the Freedom Convoy | Stand on Guard


Episode Stats

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35 minutes

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168.91263

Word Count

6,050

Sentence Count

3

Misogynist Sentences

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Hate Speech Sentences

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Summary

In this episode of Stand on Guard, my guest this morning is a trucker and citizen journalist, Glen Mcgill. Glen and I have been friends for a long time and he has been a long-time supporter of the Freedom Convoy protest against the US government's censorship of freedom of speech and surveillance of the internet. In this episode, Glen talks about how the U.S. government conspired with the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and the disinformation governance board (DGB) to try to de-platform the Freedom convoy, and how they leveraged social media to do so.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 good morning everybody welcome back to another episode of stand on guard my guest this morning
00:00:06.040 is gordon mcgill and if you don't know gordon you should and you will because this is a
00:00:12.560 trucker who's also a citizen journalist i know he doesn't necessarily identify as a journalist
00:00:18.640 because that's a bad word these days but he's he's doing his job like a lot of us are trying to do
00:00:26.140 uh on the internet on social media so when we come back this is a bombshell and i know a lot of
00:00:33.540 people on social media say everything's a bombshell these days every time somebody yawns it's a
00:00:38.760 bombshell but this really is this is how the american biden administration and the department
00:00:45.100 of homeland security conspired conspired because conspired just means more than one person
00:00:51.080 to undermine the freedom convoy we'll be back in a minute so we are in a very precarious position
00:00:59.380 in this country we need political change but we also need to resolve to resist
00:01:05.900 thank you again for watching and yes please like this station the more you like the station
00:01:24.980 the less youtube suppression we get we get that every day and we're here to fight justin trudeau's
00:01:30.920 censorship which is all about the story today actually it's about so-called disinformation
00:01:36.900 and how the u.s disinformation governance board you remember that because that wacko
00:01:44.600 nina jankowitz was ahead of it and this is the woman who went on tiktok and did a little song and
00:01:50.960 dance act about disinformation and of course we were all horrified but listen our freedom was in
00:01:57.980 the hands of this woman but the dhs department of homeland security which was of course the overall
00:02:05.040 agency for this disinformation governance board was working with the canadian government
00:02:10.420 to undermine and try to de-platform the freedom convoy i find this absolutely fascinating so
00:02:18.560 this is the article that set all of this off can you lead us through this is ammo land of course
00:02:24.940 a lot of some viewers might not know but if you have any interest in firearms this is the bible
00:02:31.740 so how did this all start gordon so uh another another twitter user by the name of cbc watcher who's
00:02:42.620 a great follow and tracks uh many of the issues we do had posted this article in ammo land and if you
00:02:49.600 dig through it it makes some pretty uh pretty pretty major allegations about what the dhs is up to
00:02:56.200 and ammo land is you know it's a blog about gun rights in the united states and the writer for ammo
00:03:02.880 land is a supporter of an organization called gun owners of america goa goa are always uh muckraking
00:03:10.080 uh through government documents to see what's coming down the pipe as far as gun control goes because
00:03:15.340 that's always an ongoing battle and in one other freedom of information act requests they retrieved
00:03:20.760 these documents regards the department of homeland security and this disinformation governance board
00:03:26.500 and if you scroll through the documents it shows that there was meetings between dhs employees where
00:03:34.320 they were talking about leveraging meta who's facebook and twitter to censor anybody discussing the
00:03:42.140 freedom convoy and specifically using the allegations that disinformation about the freedom
00:03:47.720 convoy was coming from america's adversaries which is to say they were playing along with this
00:03:53.840 completely false accusation that was first propagated on the cbc no less that the freedom convoy
00:04:01.960 was financed and backed by russian money of which no evidence has ever been shown and there's none here
00:04:08.980 in these dhs documents they just make allegations about it and then decide that based on these
00:04:14.400 allegations they should go to twitter and to facebook and try and throttle canadians freedom of speech
00:04:21.100 now i put up the yeah the document this is some bureaucrat here just blithely talking about how they're
00:04:30.580 how they're going to see if they can de-platform people how and and what's possible and i find i find this
00:04:37.020 absolute fact this is typical bureaucraties we discussed whether engaging with meta and twitter
00:04:41.740 to share information convoy related matters so this goes back of course to the
00:04:47.660 the revelation that the social media platforms were working with the government to actively spy on
00:04:56.800 people and to censor and this this i think is at the root of this story and they were trying
00:05:01.940 to de-platform the freedom convoy uh principles and just before i forget uh were you involved in
00:05:09.580 the in the freedom convoy protest uh i went home to ottawa so you know full disclosure i live in the
00:05:15.960 united states now um and i as as a matter of solidarity i traveled to ottawa when the freedom convoy came to
00:05:24.400 town well welcomed uh the western convoy on an overpass on 417 west of the city and then spent the rest of
00:05:31.320 the weekend there so i was i'm merely a supporter and then when i came home um i i leveraged some media
00:05:38.580 contacts and some other people asked me to start writing about it including newsweek so i did so
00:05:43.420 i've been writing about it ever since but i am not technically involved with the organizers of the
00:05:48.280 freedom convoy at all okay but this was sort of an accident though you because this freedom
00:05:54.800 freedom of information uh request was made and freedom convoy just sort of stuck out in that request
00:06:02.000 and as a result of that you got this information so was it sort of a surprise that you stumbled onto this
00:06:08.740 right yeah like i say another twitter user found the uh found the link from these mln guys and i just
00:06:15.880 started digging into it and i was like holy cow and i even think that the gun owners of america the
00:06:21.200 people who filed the original foyer request i don't think they were looking for anything to do with
00:06:26.020 freedom convoy like that's that's not their area of concern so it seems like this might be a little
00:06:32.000 bit of effort on the part of gun owners of america and a little bit of chance and uh what an interesting
00:06:38.120 uh expose we've stumbled on well there's no question about that i find it fascinating as well is that
00:06:46.300 this readout from february the 11th now we all know valentine's day 2022 february 14 2022 justin trudeau
00:06:56.980 invokes the emergencies act this is a readout from a conversation between joe biden and justin trudeau
00:07:05.340 and it talks about the prime minister promised quick action enforcing the law and he's talking here
00:07:12.040 about the standoff at coots and in ontario in terms of the border
00:07:18.940 action and the prime minister thanked him for the steps he and other canadian authorities the president
00:07:24.780 thanked him for the steps he and other canadian authorities order taking to restore the open passage
00:07:29.000 of bridges to the united states in turn the prime minister thanked the president and his administration
00:07:34.700 the governor of michigan the u.s officials for all the assistance that the united states is providing
00:07:40.320 to resolve this disruption and this is just days before the the freedom con was stifled freedom
00:07:49.540 convoy was stifled by the emergencies uh act and of course this looks highly suspicious right well the
00:07:57.660 the assistance part here is very interesting david um pardon my interruption but that that last line
00:08:03.440 about the assistance um yeah the the american government um i don't know what sort of assistance
00:08:09.980 like they think that's that important so what's going on here is that what they're alluding to
00:08:15.460 i think is this very dhs memo and that the canadian government couldn't get any other help out of the
00:08:24.880 american government right so they were trying to get tow trucks to come to ottawa they were calling
00:08:29.700 companies in new york state and vermont they were calling companies in montana there was an atip
00:08:35.160 document release here a few weeks ago um that was exposed by another twitter user buck mcyoung
00:08:40.840 that showed that the canadian government being unable to get any tow truck companies to cooperate
00:08:47.340 with them to remove trucks from coots or ottawa were trying to get um equipment from the united states
00:08:53.500 and american tow truck companies basically told them to pound sand or our drivers aren't vaccinated or
00:08:58.600 like blew them off right and there wasn't really anything that like the american uh police police
00:09:04.520 could do on their side because all the protests were on the canadian side of the border so what was
00:09:09.200 this assistance well it sure seems like the assistance that they were rendering was trying
00:09:14.160 to compel twitter and facebook to block people's uh posting of of their opinions now did that take place
00:09:21.580 no i think most people still were able to talk about this stuff online but it shows that like
00:09:27.200 they even considered it is pretty revealing well yeah it it's it certainly is it certainly is
00:09:35.840 revealing but we don't really know because 80 over 80 percent of the documents related to the freedom
00:09:41.420 convoy are still under wraps uh still not subject to public perusals so we really don't know the
00:09:50.020 extent to which uh this went on and and i think it's i think it's absolutely outrageous
00:09:56.820 that we almost accept this in canada now that the government can play with us this way now you've
00:10:02.540 looked at all of the i think there's 160 pages that you were looking at last night does anything else
00:10:08.560 stand out in your mind in terms of what's going on here well bureaucrats do bureaucrating i guess i mean
00:10:18.060 there's some fairly repetitive stuff in there but like i say they they this it sort of appears like
00:10:24.880 they're uh running around with their hair on fire because they truly believed um that the russians
00:10:30.600 or somebody were behind all this supposed disinformation about the freedom convoy and you
00:10:36.920 know that they never did come up with any evidence of that so i mean through all the the the parts where
00:10:43.380 they're talking about the freedom convoy in all those 160 pages it's only in over the course of a couple
00:10:48.620 of them but like i say they didn't come up with any evidence of it and it just it belies the fact
00:10:54.380 that they were sort of you know huffing their own jenkum in the belief that you know regular people in
00:11:01.160 canada wouldn't you know do this on their own it must be foreigners you know nobody in canada would
00:11:05.680 ever disagree with us well that that's you know i when i said that from the very beginning in terms of
00:11:13.660 nobody expected canadians to rise up against covid mandates and i look back on it now and i think i
00:11:21.680 realized at the time i was a part of history but i think more than that i i don't know if we would
00:11:28.880 have seen the rollback of these mandates and sanity in terms of how effective this vaccine was and whether
00:11:37.160 or not people should be giving it to newborns unless these people had have had not have risen up and
00:11:44.180 said enough of this we have at least we have freedom of speech in this country uh for now yeah well
00:11:51.580 that i mean well this is something else i wanted to talk to you about is um so as you mentioned at the
00:11:57.120 beginning of the show i've been writing about this situation out in coots with these four men who were
00:12:02.840 arrested uh over the course of february 13th and 14th of 2022 uh a verdict just came down in their
00:12:10.140 trial which finally got going on june 6th like almost two and a half years later and um uh an idea
00:12:18.220 i've sort of come up with here i think is that the the verdict and the pursuit of this case against
00:12:26.840 tony oleonic and chris carbert i believe in part is a trial balloon for whatever's to come down the
00:12:34.860 pipe with uh bill c63 the online harms act which as i'm sure you know has uh you know the first part
00:12:41.700 of it is pretty good oh we're going to deal with pedophiles and child pornographers and these bad
00:12:46.600 actors on the internet okay great that's awesome why can't that part of it be standalone legislation
00:12:52.240 oh no they have to come in and say we're going to throw you in jail forever if you are suspected
00:12:58.040 of advocating genocide we are going to prosecute you for future crimes based on your thought like
00:13:04.520 this is some minority report level stuff that's buried in this bill c63 and i think what you see
00:13:11.000 here if you've followed the trial you see that they had no evidence of the conspiracy to murder
00:13:19.060 police officers which were these you know very damning allegations laid against these four guys
00:13:24.260 um the charges against the other two jerry morin and chris lizak were dropped back in february
00:13:29.760 and then the jury found these guys not guilty right so what how is it that they they were found not
00:13:35.420 guilty of all these crazy allegations well it turns out that the crown had no evidence of it but what they
00:13:41.760 did do for days and weeks of this trial was go through allegations from undercover officers that
00:13:48.840 had no wires no recordings no video nothing it was just pure allegations from uh undercovers and
00:13:55.400 then they also went through um texts and group chats and uh phone messages between tony olianic and
00:14:03.380 various other people and to a lesser extent chris carbert what they were trying to do is convict
00:14:08.780 tony olianic of possessing the incorrect opinions they tried to parse out the meaning of emojis like in a
00:14:16.920 courtroom right and they were trying to make it that tony was like some kind of bad guy because he
00:14:22.120 had opinions about the chinese communist party and that they might be working with the canadian
00:14:26.600 government oh where have we heard that before right or the united nations they were literally they
00:14:32.360 were literally trying to uh to prosecute tony olianic and and and make him guilty of like quote
00:14:38.200 unquote being a conspiracy theorist they had no actual hard evidence and the tie-in with c63 here is
00:14:44.880 if they had convicted tony olianic they basically would have set a precedent right like and when
00:14:50.720 when and if c63 passes now they have a conviction involving people's thoughts what they say in text
00:14:58.880 messages what they say on social media and that's what they're gunning for here and i'm glad that the
00:15:04.040 jury saw through this crap well you know i think that's the first time i've heard that hypothesis here
00:15:11.420 because i have been fighting very strongly if anybody who follows this broadcast or my substack
00:15:17.540 and yeah we'll get to your substack in a minute i i know that this is a probably the most important
00:15:25.240 issue facing canadians right now in terms of personal freedom if this bill passes we are going to lose
00:15:31.180 our freedom of speech we are going to lose our basic fundamental democratic freedom in this country
00:15:36.620 because we can't have a democracy without freedom of speech and the very idea that this has a thought
00:15:43.000 crimes component i i couldn't believe that when i first discovered it because you really have to
00:15:49.060 read through this bill very very carefully because as you say yeah it's camouflaged and if you watched
00:15:55.220 the news conference where the justice minister introduced this bill he didn't talk about censorship
00:16:01.220 he didn't talk about misinformation or disinformation that was out of out of flavor at the time because
00:16:06.780 everybody saw through that he talked about protecting children from child pornography and protecting women
00:16:13.360 from revenge porn and it was all about protection protection protection and of course this is all a
00:16:18.520 smokescreen and all you have to do is read the fine print or just read the bill and you discover
00:16:25.860 that i could be subject to house arrest because somebody down the street says hey i think creighton
00:16:32.000 might be thinking a bad thought and of course we're seeing this already happening around the world where
00:16:40.140 police are at the doors of people because they posted something they they had a youtube comment or they had
00:16:48.940 they said something on x that went against the government policy the official narrative at the time and the
00:16:55.480 police are at the door and it just astounds me that we even we can even look at this and say oh my god we
00:17:02.040 have entered into 1984 right and you you see that you see this with the coots trial too right so like
00:17:08.040 in in court in in the testimony it is revealed by one of these undercover officers that they did not
00:17:16.800 begin um considering tony oleanek a suspect or somebody worthy of um of casing until an incident that took place
00:17:27.260 in smuggler's saloon which is this little bar in the town of coots that had become a sort of de facto meeting
00:17:32.400 place for all of the people involved in the protest and a woman was sitting in smuggler's saloon and was
00:17:38.140 overheard by an undercover officer saying you know i haven't been feeling really well and um you know one of the
00:17:44.920 leaders of this protest this guy named tony oleanek he's gonna bring me some ivermectin because i you know i
00:17:50.660 want something to to treat what i believe might be covid and that like perked their ears up right and another
00:17:57.200 thing that was revealed uh in court when uh chris carbert was uh examined by his own lawyer that he rejected
00:18:05.840 chris carbert owned his own landscaping business right and he had a bunch of different employees
00:18:10.560 and he was offered this um what were they called in canada these loans to like help businesses keep
00:18:16.760 paying their employees and keep their businesses afloat during the lockdowns i can't remember the
00:18:21.780 name i can't yeah i can't remember the name of the program but he rejected it he said no i'm not taking
00:18:25.760 this government money right so you you you have uh these two primary suspects who had already been
00:18:34.000 guilty of telling the government to go pound sand and making their own decisions and rejecting you know
00:18:40.300 basically state assistance right and so another component of the coots thing that ties into the
00:18:46.320 freedom of speech is that if the government can like arrest four men or anybody at any protest then
00:18:53.920 you know concoct a fantasy about you supposedly conspiring to murder police officers they'll just
00:19:00.340 charge you with all this heinous stuff and then put you in jail for two years deny you bail you got to
00:19:05.260 remember the coots guys had no criminal records no history of violence no nothing i think maybe chris
00:19:10.220 had like a drug possession charged from when he was a kid but basically no criminal records
00:19:15.240 perfectly upstanding good citizens worked real hard loved by their families and communities
00:19:21.760 no bail thrown away and remand for two years of your life with like no chance to defend yourself
00:19:27.400 full-on scapegoating and media smearing campaign against you that like you're never going to get the
00:19:32.740 stink off you for the rest of your life and now they've just been proven not guilty so like if the
00:19:37.740 government can do this to people what right to protest do you actually have what right to freedom
00:19:43.440 of speech do you actually have if this threat of the government being able to do this to you and
00:19:48.820 then get away with it where's your rights so really this was this was a thought that you think the
00:19:56.060 prosecutors the crown was trying to prove a thought crime basically here because i mean that's that's
00:20:01.280 the unspoken underlying part of this right and speaking of the crown prosecutor mr stephen johnston
00:20:07.260 those who've been following the uh the coots trial will know that last year there was an incident
00:20:13.020 involving this envelope tony only in its previous counsel uh a woman from calgary by the name of tony
00:20:19.860 roulston had uh witnessed evidence indicating that stephen johnston and his uh right-hand man i think the
00:20:27.520 guy's name is matt dialowicz or something that they had been in coots right so there's over and above
00:20:34.380 this incident with roulston if you look through the atip documents it shows that the crown was in
00:20:39.360 coots advising the rcmp now there's a gray area here between advising and directing right so if the
00:20:46.800 if the crown is directing the rcmp the crown can then not be part of that prosecution because that's a
00:20:52.860 conflict of interest right so roulston sees this documentation indicating that at some point during
00:20:59.740 the investigation the rcmp's tactics and strategy for trying to find these guys changed significantly
00:21:06.620 and she said that and she was trying to uh get an exception to the sort of solicitor client privilege
00:21:13.280 between the crown and the rcmp in order to expose this document and say look you know johnston and
00:21:21.120 yeah whatever his name is sorry um we're we're too heavily involved in this and the you know my
00:21:29.240 clients uh innocence is at stake and this is probably prosecutorial misconduct and i believe it was called
00:21:36.160 a crime fraud exception she was applying for and then there was a closed door meeting at court those
00:21:41.880 documents that roulston alleges to have been seen have been sealed they're gone right and they were they
00:21:47.940 were kept out of the uh court trial so i i don't know if there's a mechanism to get those documents
00:21:54.400 uh unsealed at some point in the future but between that the a tip documents and you know it was shown
00:22:01.900 in the proceedings that uh an rcmp rcmp superintendent gordon corbett said that he was communicating at a
00:22:11.260 platinum level right with rcmp command in ottawa including uh the deputy commissioner uh zablaki
00:22:19.880 who's basically was brenda lucky's right hand man right so you have to wonder with all of this smoke
00:22:26.320 is there fire was the prime minister's office or his incident response group on a fishing expedition
00:22:31.700 in part because you know marco mendocino is running around with his hair on fire about diagonal on and
00:22:38.200 this extremist group that's armed to the teeth and they're going to overthrow the government
00:22:41.640 right like it it sounds if you if you start looking at this the possibility that there was a
00:22:48.020 fishing expedition that was ordered from ottawa to try and find the evidence they needed to prove
00:22:54.560 all of the rhetoric they had been saying to the public about this super dangerous threat right like
00:23:00.780 they didn't have actual evidence of it they only had allegations from the canadian anti-hate network
00:23:06.740 about a podcaster and his fans they didn't have anything so it seems to me like there's a possibility
00:23:14.220 that directions came down to find something and manufacture something to backfill their claims
00:23:20.940 and therefore justify the invocation of the emergencies act well you anticipated my next question
00:23:27.360 gordon because i was going to say is it fair to say that the prime minister's office conspired with
00:23:33.680 the rcmp too because they were they were looking for a pretext to invoke the emergencies act and of
00:23:41.060 course they they supposedly found one here and what i find interesting though in terms of what you're
00:23:48.700 saying about a trumped up case if you follow the trial of chris barber and tamara leach in ottawa here
00:23:57.220 and i've been to just about every day of that trial the prosecution has presented absolutely
00:24:03.700 no evidence of any violence of any intent for violence every video and every recording they played
00:24:12.140 has either tamara or chris saying remember folks please behave for yourselves do not do anything
00:24:19.400 violent do not upset the locals listen to the police we're not here for violent protests we're we are
00:24:25.860 peacefully protesting so what is the prosecutor what is the crown trying to establish here well you
00:24:31.240 wanted that you were thinking about it you were thinking about violent protests and that's how we're
00:24:36.540 going we're going to get and i can see that i can see that coming because i see a tie-in here now
00:24:42.760 and i think i just realized this while talking to you this morning this is where they're going to go
00:24:47.420 with the trial of chris and tamara because they've got no evidence on them at all nothing and and this is
00:24:53.120 they were looking for a pretext in coots and they found it but ironically and nobody ever seems to
00:24:59.200 ask this question the border situation was already resolved by february 14th there was no cause there
00:25:10.020 was no pretext to invoke the emergency right and it's even worse it's even worse out in coots because
00:25:16.720 they claimed that the guys at coots had completely blocked the border off and i think that may have been
00:25:21.620 true for the first couple of days january 29th and 30th but at some point there was one lane of
00:25:27.120 traffic going in either direction so there was a slowdown but there was also two other border
00:25:31.600 crossings not too far away that trucks could have used and many of them did the actual total highway
00:25:38.620 shutdown that occurred near coots was up in milk river the next town north along highway 4 where the
00:25:44.540 rcmp had the road completely blocked off going south and then the rcmp had checkpoints at the
00:25:50.580 intersections with all the side roads in the area so this this this notion that the freedom convoy
00:25:56.600 guys and coots were responsible for the highway being closed is nonsense there was a slowdown but
00:26:02.600 the actual shutdown came from the rcmp themselves how about uh if you can comment on what about this
00:26:11.180 cache of weapons that was discovered and do you think it was you think there's something funny about
00:26:17.360 all that no i mean there's something funny about the way they framed it everybody will remember that
00:26:22.960 famous propaganda photo that went out that very night uh was it the 13th or the 14th that went out
00:26:28.820 on the wire and people continue to reference at this table full of guns and ammo and all that stuff
00:26:33.120 people need to remember that you know there was 13 people arrested um and nine of them were not
00:26:41.000 kept in jail for two years and who who knows who they could have belonged to right so a number of
00:26:47.340 those weapons i believe three or four of the weapons in that photo have never been traced to an owner
00:26:51.720 and a bunch of them they were they were seized from multiple different locations and then put all in one
00:26:57.140 spot and they don't ever tell you that like you know chris carver yeah he had two rifles but they
00:27:02.160 were stored in his travel trailer properly secured on private property not at the protest site like you know
00:27:08.320 half a kilometer away or something like that and you have to you have to prove intent and in the verdict
00:27:14.180 of chris carver and tony olianek they they could not put the conspiracy to murder together and throughout
00:27:22.900 the trial they were never able to establish any intent and there was like you know it's alberta
00:27:28.720 everybody has guns there's um there's bounties for coyotes and gophers because gophers dig holes which harm
00:27:36.560 livestock you know and you know tony well i think one of the other things here we have to think about
00:27:42.300 the guns which is um should be very concerning to canadians is that the dangerous purpose um the the
00:27:49.860 dangerous purpose and how they were able to quote unquote prove that is that tony admitted that you
00:27:56.200 know yeah they're for self-defense because you never know if they're going to send antifa or maybe
00:28:00.300 there'll be chinese communist party people here right like that that you do not have a right to
00:28:05.580 self-defense in canada and most cops will tell you that right you're not allowed to have guns for
00:28:09.900 self-defense end of story so that was the dangerous purpose they were never able to prove that this had
00:28:15.340 anything to do with the plan for killing police or anything like that and a bunch of those guns didn't
00:28:20.300 even belong to those guys it was it was sort of a chimera right like it was used as a propaganda
00:28:25.540 device to scare the hell out of people because canada for better or worse is now an urban country and
00:28:31.440 most people live in cities they have no idea what rural life is like and they don't have any idea
00:28:36.080 about guns whatsoever so it was a perfect propaganda tool well yeah it certainly was and i i think from
00:28:43.860 beginning to end people smelled something about this whole investigation because we know that former
00:28:50.640 rcmp commissioner brenda lucky was working for justin trudeau's policy in many ways especially
00:28:58.000 uh in terms of gun control so and this was of course another red flag for the opponents
00:29:04.900 of anybody owning a firearm of any kind that this these people are going to put them in the trunk and
00:29:11.060 and plan insurrection so this was a another victory for the opponents of uh of firearms possession
00:29:18.580 ownership in in this country right and i know and another interesting thing about the gun stuff is that
00:29:24.540 like okay let's even say they were guilty of you know weapons possession right like if you look at
00:29:31.700 what the normal fines or punishments are for that they don't involve being thrown in jail for two and
00:29:36.900 a half years right like uh chris lizak who is who pled out on february 6th you know he he was guilty
00:29:44.040 technically of a gun mishandling charge that would have normally seen him get a fine or maybe they might
00:29:49.700 have seized his pistol that doesn't mean you spend two years of your life locked away in jail with no
00:29:54.860 bail right absolutely not and it uh it strikes me though that this i think what you've said today is
00:30:06.080 another bombshell that this this was a this is all about thought crimes and i can see where this is
00:30:10.760 going with with tamara and chris and it thank you so much for your your interest and concern on the
00:30:17.860 online harms act because you wouldn't believe the indifference that i'm seeing from so many
00:30:23.820 canadians about this bill and in fact the official opposition conservatives they only got interested in
00:30:29.500 this when it was revealed that it was going to cost like 250 million dollars to set up the
00:30:34.900 the censorship group that's going to oversee this whole thing it's another layer of bureaucracy
00:30:39.940 and oh it's going to cost 250 million that's that's terrible but prior to that there wasn't a
00:30:47.240 single question in the house of commons from the conservatives and certainly you'll get nothing
00:30:51.780 from the ndp they love this but nothing from the conservatives about how this is going to not just
00:30:56.380 impact free speech is going to destroy free speech annihilate it and i i am asking for for
00:31:03.680 canadians that to to say if you want the ability to still be free in this country you've got
00:31:10.480 we've got to fight this bill i think we might have a chance of this bill not passing before the
00:31:15.760 next election if we have a next election and i i leave that out there because we might have another
00:31:20.680 emergency another crisis whether it's a pandemic or whether it's another incident
00:31:27.060 with a proposed insurrection i don't put anything past this liberal government in terms of avoiding
00:31:35.220 the next election i'm very concerned that they'll they will pass this online harms act
00:31:40.860 rapidly in the next session of parliament and i think i i hope and pray if we do have another
00:31:49.200 government post trudeau that that government has the guts and the intelligence to repeal bill c63 so i'm
00:31:58.380 i'm not entirely optimistic i don't trust politicians anymore i worked in the house of commons for eight
00:32:04.360 years uh the legacy of that for me was to never trust politicians because they will never tell you
00:32:10.880 anything except what you want to hear and i so i'm i'm biding my time but i'm fighting and i i think
00:32:17.780 that that's probably where you are too we have to if we you know there's a great line from that that
00:32:23.000 classic film casablanca that if if we stop breathing we will die if we stop fighting the world will die
00:32:31.820 and that's the the resistance fighter says that in the in the movie the paul heinrich character and
00:32:37.740 and that has been an inspiration for me over the last couple of years ever since i was there for the
00:32:43.580 freedom convoy and i said if we don't fight this country is going to die in front of us and i'll i'll
00:32:50.440 i'll leave the the last words to you right well as you said you know um canadians are a little bit
00:32:56.980 lax and uh paying attention to what's going on with the government you know the conservatives only
00:33:02.220 seem to care about the money with the online harms act they also came to the party late with defending
00:33:06.300 the freedom convoy or doing anything to stop the mandates um we have we have a pretty major problem
00:33:12.200 in canada under this like terrible ruling class and uh an opposition that doesn't actually oppose
00:33:18.680 anything you know canadians need to wake up and start taking what they used to have seriously so we don't lose it
00:33:25.100 for good well i couldn't agree more and so just wanted to show your substack there please have a
00:33:33.640 look at gord substack it's uh it's phenomenal he's done he's doing original research original journalism
00:33:40.620 unlike a lot of people who are just showing clips and nothing else so that's it's it's fantastic and i
00:33:47.940 just uh i want to i want to thank you for joining me today gordon and i hope we can do this again i know
00:33:53.220 i know you've been on shows like tucker carlson you've been sharing this story with a huge audience
00:33:59.240 mine is a little less than tucker's i wanted to add too though i didn't realize this until the other
00:34:07.180 day that this disinformation governance board uh was of course dissolved because of the the huge cry
00:34:15.080 over the how ludicrous this was and how dangerous this was but the fbi quietly took up the
00:34:22.800 the duties if you will of doing this and i i i heard this the other day when i was watching
00:34:29.300 redacted with clayton morris and i i'm a weekly regular on his show but he was talking about how
00:34:35.860 the fbi is now doing this they the biden administration quietly shifted this responsibility
00:34:42.440 to the fbi from the department of homeland security so now it's part of the justice department
00:34:47.840 so i mean these governments will do anything to pull the wool over our eyes they will do anything
00:34:53.700 to put us under surveillance to censor what we say and it's only because people like you gordon are
00:35:00.620 fighting back that i think we have any hope of winning this so thank you so much for joining me
00:35:05.760 today and let's let's do it again and god bless you and the work you're doing and all prosperity to to
00:35:14.340 to not only this work but in your in your in your personal work as a as a independent trucker so
00:35:21.640 thank you so much gordon uh we will we will leave it there all right thanks so much for having me
00:35:27.720 david uh keep on paying attention and fighting back we will do thank you for watching stand on guard today
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