Stand on Guard with David Krayden - BREAKING： Charges Dropped Against Katie Pasitney Exclusive Interview ｜ Stand on Guard

00:00:00.000 And of course, what do you expect an ostrich killer to receive at the Grey Cup game,

00:00:26.240 except boos and denunciations. When we come back, my special guest and who's been on this program so often,

00:00:36.100 we're going to be talking about some exciting things for the future. Katie, this is me, and we'll be right back.

00:00:42.600 We'll be right back.

00:01:12.600 We'll do it live.

00:01:22.200 We'll do it live. I'll write it and we'll do it live.

00:01:28.840 Yes, we'll do it live. So without further ado, I want to bring Katie onto the show as she's been here so many times in the past since April.

00:01:37.420 We had our first interview and yeah, we're going to get together in person very, very soon.

00:01:42.000 Isn't that incredible since April? I mean, there's not a lot of people that maybe some people are just tuning in for the first time,

00:01:50.340 but this has been almost a year long battle for saving animals that were not diseased and they were healthy.

00:01:57.620 We had met in April, like you said, so I mean, but this has been almost a year long battle.

00:02:03.560 We've went through all the seasons, all of the emotions, and now we're here and everything we fought for is gone on our farm.

00:02:13.560 But this raises a brand new commitment from our family, and that is that we're never going to allow this to happen to any farmer in Canada ever again.

00:02:22.780 And this will never repeat itself, this barbaric act of war that they brought onto our farm November 6th and 7th.

00:02:29.940 And we'll be discussing how you intend to make sure that never happens in a few minutes, but want to get to the breaking news here.

00:02:37.980 I'm so excited when we spoke just before the broadcast.

00:02:42.020 Charges have been dropped, I assume.

00:02:43.960 That's not just for you, but for your mom, Karen, as well?

00:02:47.420 Yeah, it is Miracle Monday, I would say.

00:02:51.720 And you've got to take the miracles when they come.

00:02:55.240 So let's just say more miracles, please.

00:02:57.940 Yeah, my mom and I's charges have been dropped.

00:03:00.680 That was Section 35, Paragraph 1 of the Animal Health Act.

00:03:05.280 And we were being charged for impeding an officer to perform his duties, which we were not.

00:03:12.020 We were not barricading fences.

00:03:13.940 We did not lock any gates.

00:03:15.340 We were simply parked in the middle of the field, carrying out a task that I have to remind you that we were emailed to do so on September 22nd by Canadian Food Inspection Agency themselves.

00:03:30.620 Now, that email stated that they wanted us to continue to feed and water the animals while they prepared for their kill.

00:03:36.840 And we said, of course, because maintaining that routine and that level of what they're used to, while their world was going to be turned upside down, was very important.

00:03:51.060 So we sat out there and we said, one, they were trying to kick us out of the pens.

00:03:55.240 And they said, we weren't allowed to feed.

00:03:57.600 And we said, we're staying because we were asked to feed and we're going to stay with the animals.

00:04:02.660 That turned into them saying, fine, you can go feed the animals.

00:04:06.740 And when we went to go feed the animals, we were arrested.

00:04:09.980 Our farm truck was swarmed by a few police vehicles.

00:04:15.300 And we were taken up to a command center up in a sand pit here.

00:04:19.980 And then they tried to charge us.

00:04:21.780 So nothing about that made sense to the world either.

00:04:25.380 But I know that there was going to be a great support at the Vernon Courthouse on the 20th.

00:04:29.920 So I want to thank you to anybody who had planned to go.

00:04:33.020 I really want to just send our gratitude for my mom and I and love.

00:04:37.540 The support has been so unwavering and it has been such a great get up and go.

00:04:43.500 That's what gives us the energy every morning to keep fighting is everybody's loving support and prayers.

00:04:48.820 So, yes, today was great.

00:04:50.540 It was a miracle we woke up to that the charges are dropped.

00:04:53.660 We didn't have to go get fingerprinted and we didn't have to go to court.

00:04:57.260 That's so fantastic.

00:04:58.940 Do you think this indicates in any way that maybe the establishment, and I use that term to mean the judiciary, the police, the governments,

00:05:09.660 the people who made life miserable for you over the last year and very, very miserable over the last seven, eight weeks. 0.99

00:05:17.460 Do you think this, maybe are they, are they saying, hold it, we're just going to look stupid, more, even more stupid if we go through with this kangaroo court, we go through with these entrapment charges. 0.99

00:05:29.100 That's really what they were because they've been embarrassed, not only during the occupation of your farm, but in this slipshod, incompetent, shit show, excuse my language, of an aftermath, so-called cleanup. 0.99

00:05:44.000 And I'm going to show some pictures later of how clean it looks. 0.99

00:05:47.420 Do you think they said, hold it, we better just stop now before we look even more stupid? 0.99

00:05:52.960 Absolutely. 1.00

00:05:53.400 I mean, you're right.

00:05:56.060 It wasn't one mistake and that's not two mistakes.

00:05:58.920 The Canadian Food Inspection Agency, I don't think has ever really been put under the microscope like this.

00:06:03.720 They've operated with no accountability, no oversight.

00:06:08.100 They don't follow their own code of conduct, their own policies.

00:06:11.140 They've been caught many, many times by hundreds of people, not us, but hundreds of people that have decided to stay here and wanted to protect life.

00:06:21.940 Images of them not wearing PPE, wearing PPE, not sanitizing the trucks, putting kill pen hay down in mud for police officers to drive on.

00:06:33.400 There's just, the list goes on and on.

00:06:35.320 Then that ends in a barbaric, barbaric shootout of our animals on November 6th and 7th that the world woke up.

00:06:46.040 And I just do not think that they anticipated that this momentum from these big, beautiful, prehistoric birds with a small family in the middle of nowhere, 135 kilometers away from a major city, I don't think they anticipated that this would get to this size.

00:07:08.580 Now, our international support is phenomenal.

00:07:11.820 I want to thank you, everybody from across the world who continues to pour in your love and support.

00:07:17.880 The ostriches became beacons of hope and they're going to remain beacons of hope.

00:07:24.520 In their brutal death of the panic and fear and the trauma and the torment that those animals felt that night, they are going to change the world.

00:07:38.260 And how, what I mean by that is that there's so many layers to this.

00:07:42.660 How has Canadian Food Inspection Agency been able to do, get away with this stuff for so many decades?

00:07:47.980 Who is really responsible?

00:07:50.640 How does this affect trade?

00:07:52.340 How does this, is this, you know, the national security risk that Angela Rasmussen said that we are?

00:07:57.580 Well, maybe we need to investigate national security because I'm promising you that the Canadian Food Inspection Agency, they are the ones that are responsible for putting anybody at risk, not us.

00:08:11.020 We have a lot of, we have a lot of good momentum, but the November 6th, November 7th, the world woke up.

00:08:18.120 The world woke up.

00:08:18.900 And people are, some people are just watching this for the first time.

00:08:23.120 Somebody, you know, mentions it to a neighbor.

00:08:26.680 Did you know what happened in Canada about the ostriches?

00:08:29.220 And then they go online and there's some people watching that shooting for the very first time today.

00:08:34.320 And they haven't had the 11 days that is today for our family to try to absorb what has happened, try to understand that trauma and how we're going to have that for the rest of our life.

00:08:48.500 But actually turn it into power and encourage, empower ourselves that today, Monday, we're ready to put our armor back on and we're ready to fight for Canada, to continue to fight for Canada.

00:09:05.340 Yes, I like that term, put your armor back on.

00:09:08.960 When you told me that yesterday, I said, that's Katie.

00:09:11.220 She's up and fighting again.

00:09:12.700 She's in the ring.

00:09:14.060 But here's the other big news today.

00:09:16.140 I, we've been talking about, about this for a little while, a voice for farmers.

00:09:21.600 This will be the association that you will take forth so that this doesn't happen to other farms and other farmers.

00:09:29.100 So what do you see as the primary mission or objectives of this, of this association?

00:09:34.420 Yeah.

00:09:35.420 Making sure that every farm out there will have a chance to have some support and never be left alone in limbo or feeling bullied.

00:09:44.880 By an agency that has had no accountability, no oversight for decades.

00:09:50.340 Remembering that this agency is an agency that has, performs its own internal investigations, performs its own audits.

00:09:59.060 They, they are only accountable to themselves.

00:10:02.520 So making sure that every farmer out there has the ability to reach out to a support network within that association.

00:10:11.080 Whether it be a team of some lawyers, a couple of vets, people that are all willing to come and bring the professional backgrounds into one, one area that we can support our farmers, support our agricultural sector.

00:10:27.380 And give everybody hope for a strong, independent, healthy future in Canada for our animals, for our dedicated farmers.

00:10:39.060 And, you know, even all of our farmers with orchards and our food.

00:10:45.040 I mean, this isn't just about our living animals, but this is about our, our, our other sustainable food.

00:10:52.340 It's about our, yeah, it's, so it's, I think this is going to be, it's a work in progress, but our heads are back together somewhat.

00:11:01.200 We have very rough days, as I was saying, the four walls of the house still seem the safest.

00:11:06.800 Walking down our laneway to see those empty pens is still, we're not ready to, to, to stay down there yet.

00:11:15.280 We've been there, but that's very hard, but that is giving us the strength to push forward, to fight for the, the rest of Canada so that we have some protection.

00:11:24.560 So it's going to be, we're working, we're, it's, we're working on it and just looking forward to establishing something that gives everybody a level of protection.

00:11:35.520 I think you were saying when we talked earlier that you think you can probably immediately begin helping somebody.

00:11:41.800 Is it Summerland you're, you're mentioning that?

00:11:43.540 Yeah, so Criterade, in all of us, this is a shout out to anybody watching.

00:11:48.820 If you're near Summerland and you have the ability to go and show some support, I don't know what kind, you know, of support, but even if it's just writing letters right now, you could probably start writing letters to Canadian Food Inspection Agency.

00:12:04.200 Start writing your letters back to Heath McDonald and start those letters again, but they're going after their peacocks now.

00:12:11.420 So they went in and I believe it was their ducks and chickens that they did end up killing and the farmers, or sorry, the, the Criterade sanctuary, they decided to euthanize their own ducks and chickens because of the massacre that we had here.

00:12:28.760 They were so afraid of them coming in with force and doing something, even a touch as barbaric as they had done here, that they, they euthanize, they put down their own, a few animals.

00:12:41.240 Now CFIA is coming back and saying that they, that they want their peacocks is to my understanding.

00:12:46.200 Now they're saying, no, um, why can't these peacocks be tested?

00:12:51.980 Let's test these peacocks and let's do not a non-PCR test.

00:12:56.880 Let's let a vet go and do the proper sample or proper tests on the peacocks. 1.00

00:13:01.800 And if they test negative again, just they can monitor, but we do not need to keep killing everything.

00:13:08.960 I don't know how we didn't learn from this, that killing everything is not the solution and, um, they're not even good at that. 0.71

00:13:17.020 So, but they are a professional killing machine and that's what they've demonstrated here is, well, not professional, but they're, they're a killing machine.

00:13:25.860 And that's what they're, that's what their mandate is. 0.98

00:13:28.260 They're not professional, but, uh, they kill. 0.96

00:13:31.300 That's what they do.

00:13:32.080 They kill and they do not preserve, protect, or treat.

00:13:35.560 They kill. 0.93

00:13:36.240 And they lie. 1.00

00:13:38.060 I've heard you say they're good at two things, lying and killing. 0.98

00:13:41.600 Yeah. 1.00

00:13:41.900 Lying and killing. 0.97

00:13:42.740 Yeah.

00:13:43.440 The Canadian Animal Cruelty Agency.

00:13:45.400 We've renamed them.

00:13:46.400 PACA.

00:13:47.660 Well, I wanted to share this with you.

00:13:49.880 And I find, I find this incredible because I put these up yesterday.

00:13:53.700 These are the stickers that we are offering for sale to viewers or anybody.

00:13:58.980 All proceeds will go to Universal Ostrich Farms.

00:14:03.220 All proceeds, not just profits, all proceeds.

00:14:05.260 We've already had dozens of these sold today.

00:14:08.940 And in fact, we're trying hard to keep up with it.

00:14:11.720 And so I find it fascinating that we put the slogan on here, justice for universal ostriches.

00:14:18.840 And that's the same word justice that you've chosen to replace saveourostriches.com with is justice for our ostriches.

00:14:27.480 Talk about simpatico.

00:14:29.000 I just find that incredible.

00:14:30.060 Yeah, it is.

00:14:31.760 Thank you for doing that.

00:14:33.460 Again, this fight is far from over.

00:14:36.560 We had our charges dropped, but we have a crime scene here.

00:14:40.400 We don't just have a quarantine that they say they left it.

00:14:44.420 We have a crime scene.

00:14:45.460 And we're going to hold them accountable.

00:14:48.880 Accountability is the war.

00:14:50.720 And like I said, they waged a new war on Canada the night of November 6th and 7th. 0.64

00:14:55.400 And that is a war of accountability.

00:14:57.440 So we need to create the changes.

00:15:00.940 And we need to rise up.

00:15:03.200 Like I keep saying, rise up, Canada.

00:15:05.080 This is about your future, your children's future, your grandchildren's future.

00:15:10.660 And this is our time.

00:15:12.300 This is our time.

00:15:13.240 If we can't use the momentum and the beautiful bridge that the ostriches created for humanity to do something so good for Canada, then when are we waiting for? 0.97

00:15:26.540 I mean, there's no better time than now than to unite and rise up.

00:15:35.020 Use your voices.

00:15:36.080 That's what they're the most afraid of is our voices, our strength and perseverance to bring justice and to live longer, healthier lives.

00:15:47.000 That's what I keep saying.

00:15:47.840 You want to scare the government?

00:15:49.540 Live longer, healthier lives.

00:15:51.540 So, yeah, it's going to be a little bit of a long road, but there's a lot of healing to do.

00:16:01.360 And we're going to do that together as well.

00:16:03.620 We understand, we want everybody to know out there that we are grieving and we are trying to heal with you.

00:16:12.040 So if anybody needs anything, we're going to try and have some resources online as well available for people around the world to reach out to.

00:16:21.540 And we'll just be working on that in the next few days as well.

00:16:25.200 But we do have some great momentum.

00:16:27.740 Like I said, we have a huge crime scene out there that we've got to get through and a lot of healing ourselves.

00:16:35.480 But today was a good day.

00:16:36.940 Those charges getting dropped is a good way to start the week.

00:16:41.380 Well, I wanted to show a few moments of that crime scene.

00:16:47.220 And I would also compare it to a war zone.

00:16:50.080 It looks like they have a war zone.

00:16:52.140 But this is courtesy of Chris Dacey, who, of course, was there for the entire most of the most of the occupation.

00:16:59.220 I think he missed maybe missed the first couple of days, but continue to file stories every day on social media.

00:17:04.480 And I've got to say, Katie, if it wasn't for social media, there would have been a news blackout on the night of the massacre.

00:17:13.400 Because mainstream media did not cover it until the following day.

00:17:17.000 And they only covered it because of you and because of the social media people who were there covering this thing literally all night long.

00:17:24.420 And I watched it all night long.

00:17:26.300 I don't think I got two hours sleep.

00:17:27.800 And I was up at five preparing for the morning broadcast that day.

00:17:32.160 But before I did anything, I think I cried for about half an hour when I looked at the footage.

00:17:37.140 Yeah.

00:17:37.320 And it was just it was so incredibly devastating and cruel.

00:17:42.040 Like even seeing those even seeing those pictures right now, like.

00:17:48.340 That is hard.

00:17:49.540 That's heartbreaking.

00:17:50.380 Like, that is heartbreaking how they how they left our fields, how they left them empty.

00:17:56.720 There is our farm truck the day we got arrested.

00:17:59.480 They left it.

00:18:00.700 I'm seeing they left it right in one spot.

00:18:04.240 What you do, you know, what one of those videos show is hundreds of mallard ducks landing in that hay from the kill pen that they blew open.

00:18:17.480 And so those hundreds of mallard ducks now are flying in and out of our quarantine zone.

00:18:22.780 What did Canadian Food Inspection Agency do about that?

00:18:26.120 You know, they didn't leave this when they took this on.

00:18:29.540 They didn't leave this and quarantine it to their expectations.

00:18:34.120 They didn't when they were here, they didn't quarantine it to their expectations.

00:18:37.540 They left our animals out there that had been shot to death overnight for birds and anything to scavenge on.

00:18:45.300 And they they broke so many of their own quarantine protocols.

00:18:49.980 It is not even funny.

00:18:52.340 So we just have to go through that list.

00:18:55.360 I mean, how about that road access up to the highway?

00:18:59.880 Now, we didn't have that road access up to the highway all open.

00:19:04.540 And all they they made a really big clear cut road right into the quarantine and they didn't fence it off or leave anybody here to monitor that.

00:19:16.260 Now, that's wide open for anybody to go into our quarantine area.

00:19:19.720 So when we had that at least isolated and it was hidden with bushes and trees, they've created highway access roads right into the back of our quarantine zones.

00:19:31.760 There's so many things that they've done wrong.

00:19:33.840 Again, I just don't think that they ever thought that they would be put under the microscope that Canadians put them under.

00:19:41.580 And I want to thank every one of you for being independent journalists in this, because it's because of every one of you that hunkered down and took pictures, that sent those images in, that have put those images all over the Internet, that the world is seeing that the Canadian Food Inspection Agency doesn't even know how to follow their own protocols.

00:20:00.440 Oh, that's so true.

00:20:03.680 They broke the law consistently during the occupation with the cruelty that they meted out to these poor ostriches. 0.97

00:20:10.740 They broke the law in the aftermath, in the so-called cleanup.

00:20:15.900 They had RCMP officers working as farmhands, raking up with pitchforks, the hay.

00:20:22.240 They had bare hands, no PPE, no goggles, no protective masks that they're supposed to be wearing,

00:20:29.700 and according to the laws in British Columbia, the Save-On or SuperSave group was not authorized to carry the kind of waste, animal waste, to anywhere.

00:20:42.480 That's a big one.

00:20:43.100 That's a big one.

00:20:45.000 Anybody want to dig into SuperSave certification from Surrey?

00:20:48.740 They were not certified and not allowed to be handling, unless they got some sort of hall pass from Canadian Food Inspection Agency,

00:20:57.840 they were not supposed to be handling biohazardous waste, so they say.

00:21:03.000 We know our animals were not virus.

00:21:04.880 We know that this had nothing to do with virus.

00:21:07.460 The Canadian Food Inspection Agency is the virus.

00:21:09.860 But let's look into SuperSave certification, because they shouldn't have been handling it.

00:21:17.780 Then the Canadian Food Inspection Agency went on mainstream media to put out a statement that they were disinfecting the trucks coming in and out.

00:21:26.040 I will promise you, by more than a dozen or two dozen eyewitnesses, those trucks that went in, drove into the kill pen with those bins, loaded up all of our babies with a bobcat bucket that just showed their total disrespect to life and how they handled them.

00:21:47.400 Put them in those bins, loaded those bins, those trucks left.

00:21:50.920 There was no spraying down those bins.

00:21:53.320 There was no spraying down those wheels.

00:21:55.500 They drove right out of that kill pen, loaded up all those animals, our animals, and they hit the highway.

00:22:02.320 So it's all documented, Canadian Food Inspection Agency.

00:22:06.700 Like, I'm sorry.

00:22:07.720 Well, I'm not sorry, but it's out there.

00:22:11.760 And there's no turning back.

00:22:12.960 That's the one good thing about the internet, I guess.

00:22:14.580 There's some stuff that gets on there, and that's really good when it lasts forever.

00:22:20.760 Copies and copies have been made of so many things, I'm sure, to so many people.

00:22:25.500 Well, they have.

00:22:26.880 And I am not buying the CFIA's news release that they deep buried 314 ostriches at an undeclosed landfill.

00:22:35.880 I'm not buying that.

00:22:38.140 And I'm demanding to know from the CFIA, and I sent these questions to you this morning via email, where did they go?

00:22:45.900 Because as I discovered this week, I had a letter from somebody who wants to remain anonymous right now, but she's very close to the whole process.

00:22:53.820 And she listed literally 10 laws, rules, and regulations the CFIA contravened in the aftermath of this operation, from overloading the trucks in an unsafe manner, and the burial, supposed burial, of these 314 ostriches.

00:23:11.500 Every last ostrich body or remain had to be wrapped in a plastic bag individually, according to British Columbia law.

00:23:21.980 Are they going to tell me they did that?

00:23:23.660 No.

00:23:24.340 Are they going to tell me that it had to be a specified landfill site that takes this kind of waste?

00:23:29.800 Any landfill will not do.

00:23:31.140 So I'm not buying their conclusions, and once again, they're lying news releases.

00:23:38.700 And every time I buy them, when I send these questions to CFIA, I get back their last news release.

00:23:44.120 These people are just beyond reason.

00:23:47.080 They're beyond bizarre.

00:23:48.660 They really think this is answering a question.

00:23:50.720 Of course, they don't, but they think nobody's noticing.

00:23:53.280 Yeah, and another question we have, if anybody ever wants, you know, comes forward or has any information on this, is you would notice that our animals were spray-painted, some were blue, and spray-painted, some were red.

00:24:07.200 And we would like to know what those spray-painter markers meant, because that was not done prior.

00:24:12.320 That was done after.

00:24:13.440 So I would like to also put out there that John Katsamadidis from New York has offered a $50,000 reward of information leading to prosecution.

00:24:26.700 So if anybody has any information that leads to prosecution of Canadian Food Inspection Agency or some of their workers, there is a $50,000 reward from John Katsamadidis.

00:24:40.040 And he's, I'll put something together.

00:24:42.940 It's been all in text messages as far.

00:24:45.600 But he started off with an $11,000 U.S. dollar reward.

00:24:50.160 And now he's just, I mean, he's angry as well and wants an international investigation done on the Canadian Food Inspection Agency.

00:24:56.940 And the risk that they put the world in by handling, if it was a true viral and threat, they put everybody at risk by the way they handled this.

00:25:08.760 And we know that this was a theatrical display of punishment for standing up for what you believe in and what you love and using your voice.

00:25:17.440 Because you don't spend millions of dollars to protect animals to kill them.

00:25:21.300 And this was even the killing.

00:25:24.920 And then even trapping all of our supporters out on the highway with no notice that those gunshots were going to start to ring out.

00:25:32.840 And they were just off the highway from the kill pen.

00:25:36.420 They were just yards away.

00:25:37.740 There was bullets that were heard hitting trees.

00:25:43.880 That's caught on lives.

00:25:45.980 Now, they never secured the perimeter.

00:25:48.740 They put all of those people at risk on the highway, trapped out of their motorhomes, out of their trailers.

00:25:55.140 They trapped them away from their animals and pets.

00:25:58.240 Their pets were left in their motorhomes and trailers.

00:26:01.140 Nobody knew how long that was going to go for.

00:26:03.540 They never warned our family that the gunfire was going to start giving us an opportunity to come in.

00:26:08.760 Turn on your TV.

00:26:10.140 You're going to want to pray as a family, maybe.

00:26:13.200 So I was stuck out on the road, caught listening to the gunfire starting.

00:26:18.500 And then it wouldn't stop.

00:26:19.680 And I'm screaming, laying on the ground.

00:26:21.660 And I had an RCMP officer in a vehicle behind me, I heard, from witnesses watching me lay there, cry.

00:26:30.940 I mean, what kind of Canada is this?

00:26:33.780 But back to the Canadian Food Inspection Agency, there is so much here that was done so wrong.

00:26:44.160 And we're going to hold them accountable.

00:26:46.200 But that's where, John, thank you, John Katsamadidis, for standing up for life and being one of the biggest advocates for animal welfare.

00:26:56.920 Well, there's no shortage of the CFIA contravening, breaking the law.

00:27:04.920 I mean, it's where do you start?

00:27:06.780 Where do you start?

00:27:08.620 Where do I begin?

00:27:09.940 Because it's incredible how they really thought they were above the law from the first day they arrived.

00:27:16.140 They contravened laws every day.

00:27:17.620 And the aftermath, and super safe, trucking these ostriches.

00:27:23.720 We know they had them in Surrey.

00:27:26.440 And I joined my good friend and colleague, Anita Krishna, the other night, Friday night.

00:27:32.120 She went to the location to talk to your supporters who were on scene to see what was going on.

00:27:38.640 And I joined her virtually, and we did a broadcast together.

00:27:44.040 But nobody really wanted to touch that one.

00:27:46.580 And I called up super safe last week, and I said, do you have dead ostriches in those bins?

00:27:53.200 Neither confirmed or denied.

00:27:54.720 No comment.

00:27:55.340 And they hung up on me.

00:27:57.160 Which means, as a former military public affairs officer, whenever you say something like that, you might as well be saying yes.

00:28:04.740 That's what that means.

00:28:05.960 So now there's concern that super safe has a lot in their back of their property in Surrey.

00:28:17.140 And it's all dirt.

00:28:19.340 Well, Sunday they had an excavator, and they had a packer in their back lot.

00:28:26.560 And so there's reason to believe and speculation by the odor and the overwhelming smell of rot coming from the back that they may have buried some of these carcasses on their own lot at the back.

00:28:44.960 And that is alarming.

00:28:47.100 But, you know, again, how do you, where do you start?

00:28:50.180 How do you get, and then they put, once they were done, they put their big metal bins right on top of where they had been digging.

00:28:57.700 So, I don't know.

00:29:02.460 I just, you know what, I do know we just want justice, and we know that we don't want this to ever happen to anybody ever again.

00:29:08.560 And have an agency that, if this was a true viral threat that was risking your family's life, our country's, you know, country, the health and welfare and protection of our, all of us.

00:29:24.280 Because we need an agency that's going to be able to handle proper outbreak response.

00:29:29.120 We need an agency that's going to be able to help protect us, not, you know, not destroy us.

00:29:34.780 And so I believe that we need to see a completely brand new agency, new face, new platform, new vision, strengths, and proper outbreak response categorized into proper departments.

00:29:50.060 There shouldn't have been a one-size-fits-all agency.

00:29:52.620 It should have never happened that way.

00:29:56.040 Somehow they have become that.

00:29:58.000 And we need to stand up, and we're going to call on real leaders.

00:30:02.020 We're seeking real leadership here.

00:30:04.180 And it's time for those true leaders to stand up, rise up, and create an impact and change for Canadians in the right direction, which we haven't seen for some time now.

00:30:15.840 Well, there's a lot of things happening right now.

00:30:18.480 Well, there's potential for the Ag Committee at the House of Commons, House of Commons Standing Committee on Agriculture, to have to convene, because they're back in Parliament now, to convene a session or two or three, and to bring in the CFIA officers, to bring in the president of the CFIA, and to ask some tough questions.

00:30:37.920 And if that happens, it's because of my good friend, Jerry Ritz, former Ag Minister, who was on the program some weeks ago.

00:30:45.380 He's been pressuring the Conservative Party, the Conservative Party critic, to do something about this, because this has been an outrage.

00:30:53.880 He was absolutely furious about what happened here.

00:30:58.160 Who couldn't be?

00:30:59.500 Who couldn't be?

00:31:00.680 Well, Jerry introduced me to a good friend of his, who is a veterinarian at the University of Guelph, and he's a specialist in criticizing the stamping out policy.

00:31:14.980 And I just want to share this clip here.

00:31:17.880 And this is Dr. Jeff Wilson.

00:31:20.140 I sent this to you the other day, hoping you would repost.

00:31:24.100 I know you've got so much to repost.

00:31:26.160 But I found this to be very hopeful, and it's incredible what he says here.

00:31:31.320 This has been absolutely outrageous.

00:31:34.540 And the aftermath, of course, it was all about the CFIA ensuring no tissue samples were taken, which has the CFIA pulled up stakes yesterday, actually, with the RCMP and the CFIA left the farm.

00:31:50.100 It's still quarantined.

00:31:51.160 And it looks like a disaster area, which, of course, is exactly what it is.

00:31:56.020 Totally.

00:31:56.420 But the CFIA is claiming yesterday in an article I read in the, I think it was Castanet, which is a Western Canadian publication, and they actually said that everybody went through sterilization when they left the farm every day.

00:32:17.200 And they said, absolute nonsense, because all of the bystanders said there was nothing like that going on.

00:32:23.840 But then they had the nerve to say that all of the ostriches have been disposed of, and they're in what they call deep burial.

00:32:32.840 Sorry, when did that happen?

00:32:34.360 Because we have people right now at the Surrey Supersafe who say these ostriches are still there in the parking lot.

00:32:44.180 So do you think they've actually disposed of these birds or not?

00:32:48.760 Well, again, so I can't know for sure.

00:32:53.680 And my thing is, one, in my role as a scientist and also as someone now leading proper outbreak results, things I say, I have to base them on evidence, right?

00:33:05.420 So I have definitely heard this secondhand, right?

00:33:13.020 So I don't know.

00:33:15.980 I've heard it multiple times.

00:33:18.620 I think to get to the bottom of this and find out where these birds are now and, you know, document that, if possible and if legal, get samples of those birds.

00:33:34.320 What they should all should happen with those birds at this point now is they should be subjected to a forensic autopsy, right?

00:33:44.960 So they should be properly autopsied.

00:33:48.380 And although they've been decomposing, there are still tests that could be done that would help to clarify whether they were shedding virus or not.

00:33:59.640 It's not nearly as good as being, you know, fresh, but it's still possible.

00:34:04.360 So if there's a way to do that, that would be good, actually.

00:34:10.260 That would be good.

00:34:11.100 Now, Jeff, at another point in this interview said, this means the end of the CFIA.

00:34:19.280 It's either going to slowly shrivel because people are going to not take it seriously anymore, or it's going to be replaced inevitably because it looked, as he said many times, incompetent, inhumane, and inhuman.

00:34:33.480 But what we're seeing now is, I mean, look at all over the news articles.

00:34:39.500 We have the cattle farmers rising up.

00:34:41.540 We have other sanctuaries rising up using their voices.

00:34:46.140 And this is something that no one really understood because they come in so fast.

00:34:51.800 They come in with policy, policy.

00:34:54.820 They come in with quarantine.

00:34:56.600 You're put under all these regulations, and you're being thrown into this fear because everything you love and your whole livelihood for some people.

00:35:04.860 And these animals for some people that are their pets and have had for years, some people, they still love their animals, but they're safe for food consumption.

00:35:13.800 They come in so fast and so hot, you don't even know what's happening.

00:35:19.320 And if you don't have the time to say no and just take to the media, I guess, or really put up a fight or have the money, the only way we've been able to keep going is from amazing people who continue to pray and donate, that we're able to keep going forward legally, keeping the lights on in the house, and just keep pushing forward to protect Canada.

00:35:43.800 Farmers can't do that. 0.97

00:35:46.300 So the Canadian Food Inspection Agency comes in.

00:35:49.180 They're killing everything.

00:35:51.720 And there's no, what we're seeing is that there's no trust.

00:35:56.160 So Canadian Food Inspection Agency has put Canadians at risk more today than ever because there is no more trust between the people in Canada and the Canadian Food Inspection Agency.

00:36:10.500 So what happens if we have a true virulent threat that comes up that we do need to handle with proper outbreak response control?

00:36:18.760 We are actually going to just start to see farmers shoot shovels shot up and not reach out to this agency because of the fear that if you call this agency off speculation, everything you love or everything you have will die.

00:36:35.480 And we're seeing some people don't believe this, but when they're coming into some farms, they're killing all the cattle or say the sheep, and they're killing people's domestic house pets.

00:36:45.860 So if you don't think that they're going to come for your domestic house pets, you're wrong.

00:36:49.660 They're already coming for people's domestic house pets.

00:36:52.340 And so that eroded trust is a huge systemic failure, and it puts all Canadians at risk.

00:37:02.020 So I applaud Jeff Wilson.

00:37:04.000 We've talked to Jeff Wilson many times.

00:37:07.020 He's on the right track and is very knowledgeable, and we hope to be part of that process.

00:37:14.100 It's establishing a proper outbreak response, establishing trust and compassion between Canadians and the level of government that we need to use to make sure that we're protected.

00:37:28.040 And this agency, a new agency, will have more accountability.

00:37:33.220 It'll have oversight, and they will have to answer to a third party.

00:37:36.840 Well, Jeff has assured me he is available as a resource to you, and he wants to help in whatever way he can.

00:37:47.320 He is absolutely enraged and frustrated over what happened here, and he does think the stamping out policy is just insane at this point.

00:37:57.480 And it's good because it will literally mean the eradication, extermination of every last living creature if it continues.

00:38:03.320 It does not work.

00:38:04.720 Like, stamping out sounds powerful, like I've said in the past.

00:38:07.940 When you pair that with stamping out natural immunity, it doesn't sound so pretty, Canada.

00:38:13.900 Stamping out natural immunity is very scary because when you start to believe that antibodies don't exist, and you start to believe that natural immunity doesn't exist,

00:38:24.480 then you lose the belief in your own body and the body of an animal.

00:38:30.100 The nature, nature that has worked its way, it's evolved, it's been okay for decades, if not hundreds and hundreds of years.

00:38:40.180 And when we kill everything on a farm, you have to understand that lots of ranches have generational lineage.

00:38:47.960 So they have animals that they have developed for health, strength, and for good quality of life.

00:38:56.820 And now when you go in and you kill everything based off of suspicion, we are getting rid of all of our strong lineage, all of the strong animals, the older animals that have the firewall and defense system that they built with antibodies.

00:39:12.580 We should be protecting all the survivors, should be going somewhere, the survivors are the ones that we breed because their survivors have antibodies that will be given to their young, and then the young are already immune to H5N1.

00:39:28.240 Now, if we would have hatched all of our, say, hatched eggs here, our chicks would have had antibodies for H5N1 because they were in the memory cells of the egg yolk.

00:39:41.400 So our chicks would have had armor to the virus. 1.00

00:39:47.280 But now you killed everything we have, and you're saying, Canadian Food Inspection Agency, it's okay, just go repopulate, go get some more, just go get some more.

00:39:56.720 So when we get some more, and they have no immune system, and they don't have the firewall that our decades-old animals were passing down through their eggs, we go through this whole process over again.

00:40:11.520 And when this happens, we're putting genetic diversity and biodiversity at risk, which is actually just going to lead to a catastrophic chain of events and a failure in humanity.

00:40:22.900 And we will become fully reliant on vaccinations for survival, and you might as well just cheers your glasses now and say, yep, okay, I, you know, ready to take all my boosters, 13 or 14 a year, because we have no animals, we have no immune system, we have no natural immunity, no antibodies left.

00:40:44.000 And it's a very serious problem.

00:40:46.540 So stamping out is stamping out humanity, really.

00:40:51.460 And you said that throughout this crisis.

00:40:54.220 I don't know how many times you said it on the show, and it's just incredibly true. 0.89

00:40:59.160 I wrote an article recently for the Post Millennial that described the night before, based on the descriptions I saw in the social media, and it talked about you, and I think the most poignant scene of that night was you on your knees in front of that fence, asking these monsters to stop.

00:41:17.260 Please stop.

00:41:18.300 I can't watch.

00:41:19.500 Yeah, I can't watch them.

00:41:20.620 I, I, I, I couldn't, I can't watch it anymore either, and it just breaks my, breaks my heart, broke my heart when I first saw it.

00:41:28.960 But millions of people read that article, and the response from the, the editor tells me has been just enormous.

00:41:37.520 And there, there, a lot of people are just discovering the story.

00:41:41.320 And I want to say, during the entire occupation, there was not a day, and I think I missed maybe one day where I, I didn't, I didn't do a broadcast, but every day I did a broadcast.

00:41:55.180 I did a seg, at least a segment, or the entire focus on the ostrich farms.

00:42:01.440 I didn't want this to go by with nobody thinking it was important anymore.

00:42:06.660 And I, and I applauded people like David Freiheit, or otherwise known as Viva Fry, for Redacted, for Rebel News, incredible coverage from Drea Humphrey, and sometimes Sheila Gunn-Reed.

00:42:22.460 These are friends and colleagues, and I, I don't mind, you know, highlighting their work.

00:42:27.340 We are all in this together. 0.98

00:42:28.820 But I condemn the lazy asses, like Skunk on a Bunk, I won't name his program, but he lives in BC, did not do a damn story on this. 0.99

00:42:41.600 You know why? 0.99

00:42:42.300 Because it wasn't on CBC enough.

00:42:45.040 Not enough clips on CBC to run on his show.

00:42:47.840 So I condemn people who ignored this story.

00:42:50.520 I applaud those who did everything they possibly could to stop this massacre, to stop this slaughter.

00:42:56.560 But my question for you, Katie, is you went through, it's been a year now, since the outbreak, the last November, December, you went through all of this legal wrangling, which is exhausting for anybody who knows what a day in court feels like.

00:43:15.800 You went through a seven, six and a half, seven-week occupation, where your animals were mistreated.

00:43:23.760 You had to watch this.

00:43:25.480 You were powerless to do anything to intervene.

00:43:28.680 You couldn't go past that fence.

00:43:30.760 You couldn't feed these animals.

00:43:32.120 You couldn't care for them.

00:43:33.700 And we watched, heartbroken, thinking, God, if we could just do something to stop this. 1.00

00:43:40.200 You had to endure attacks on social media from idiots and morons and layabouts who have nothing better to do than attack your character and attack the excellent job you did in defending this farm and describing the situation. 1.00

00:43:57.940 And for these people, I have nothing but rage and absolute abomination. 1.00

00:44:05.360 But I don't know, you went through this, you said you've got the armor back on.

00:44:12.500 How did you do it, Katie?

00:44:14.020 How did you get through this?

00:44:16.500 And your whole, I think you need to do this new venture for your own health and wellness because you need something to move on to after this horrible experience.

00:44:27.640 But what kept you going during the most difficult times?

00:44:31.420 Um, God, our, our faith, our faith in God that, um, God has a plan and we didn't know what that plan looked like.

00:44:48.660 I've grown up to be one of the biggest animal advocates.

00:44:52.840 And I believe very deeply in protecting the voiceless.

00:44:58.920 And so that's always been in my nature.

00:45:01.840 And those animals out there gave me so much momentum every day.

00:45:08.060 I knew what they stood for.

00:45:10.100 And I knew the beacons of hope that they were for people around the world.

00:45:13.860 And I know the opportunity that we have here to do something really good for Canada.

00:45:18.460 So for those reasons, it was, um, it wasn't ever, it wasn't easy finding me.

00:45:25.180 So it's been really hard, but every day just feels good because we're standing on the right side of history, doing something good for our children and our grandchildren and our country that deserves a win.

00:45:37.460 And we deserve a win and, um, our, our animals deserved a win.

00:45:44.800 We didn't get that, but we do know that with their legacy, uh, we're not going to stop.

00:45:51.440 And we got our armor back on for our ostriches and we're going to keep pushing forward until justice is served.

00:45:59.040 And that justice will help protect other Canadians, farmers, our families, our future.

00:46:06.820 That just gives me so much excitement inside, honestly, um, to be part of something that could have a long lasting effect for all Canadians and our families.

00:46:19.720 I, I feel honored to be in this position that I never thought that we would be in.

00:46:26.740 I had no idea it would grow to this.

00:46:29.740 I had no idea that they would be murdered the way that they would be murdered.

00:46:34.740 Um, I, I didn't really even understand the UN and WEF and everything until for the last 11 months.

00:46:42.800 I've been red pilled for 11 months.

00:46:46.560 I've actually learned what our country, how it operates, um, who affects our decisions, the unelected, you know, governing officials, um, the, the UN and the WHO and the World Animal Health Organization.

00:47:03.020 It's been a huge eye opener, but I just know that I want to keep fighting to stand on the right side of history.

00:47:09.560 And that means making Canada somewhere that we can be proud to live in again.

00:47:14.380 Well, I think, I think God brought us together so we could fight this battle as well and move on to a voice for farmers.

00:47:23.160 And I'm going to do everything possible to help you with that, including fundraising.

00:47:27.780 I don't mind saying that publicly.

00:47:29.360 I will be very involved in this as a primary hobby.

00:47:32.260 I will be helping you fundraise and we need to raise money, folks.

00:47:36.100 We need to raise money.

00:47:37.800 We've been getting that out.

00:47:38.940 It's going to be a major fundraising drive in the next couple of weeks.

00:47:42.480 And we need your support in every, every way possible.

00:47:46.520 And there have been reports that the CFIA is talking about the farm picking up the costs of the entire occupation.

00:47:55.180 Have you, I, the last time we talked about this, I don't think you could confirm it, but I don't think they've denied it either.

00:48:00.680 No, we can't confirm it.

00:48:03.280 So we haven't talked on it really, but that was a post that someone read somewhere.

00:48:09.060 So I don't like to go down those rabbit holes until we have an email personally ourself.

00:48:14.320 Uh, so I'll, I'll answer to that is that we have not been served.

00:48:18.860 We have not been given, uh, that documentation.

00:48:23.540 However, would it surprise you?

00:48:26.040 You know, nothing, nothing surprises, surprises me anymore.

00:48:29.620 And this is one of those things that why wouldn't they?

00:48:34.620 Because, you know, the biggest word is we were non-compliant.

00:48:38.220 Comply or die in Canada, everybody. 0.89

00:48:40.720 Comply or die.

00:48:42.560 Uh, so we were non-compliant for, uh, not killing our own animals and our own healthy animals.

00:48:50.340 And, uh, that means then that we could be on the hook for all of the police costs, the fencing, the super save, the bails that I, that I've heard from a trucker that they, they bought in my name.

00:49:05.100 Um, and so, yeah, so we're getting a statement on that, uh, because nobody would touch it.

00:49:13.140 And a truck driver said that he heard that Katie Pasitney was ordering bedding for the ostriches.

00:49:19.200 So they delivered it out here.

00:49:21.740 Um, that's again, I got, I need a statement on that, but, uh, so yeah, yeah, it wouldn't surprise me.

00:49:28.660 It wouldn't surprise me at all, but guess what?

00:49:30.580 We're ready.

00:49:31.380 We're ready for it.

00:49:32.420 I mean,

00:49:32.880 That's right.

00:49:33.160 We're going to, we're going to fundraise for the worst.

00:49:35.940 Yeah.

00:49:36.200 They took everything we love.

00:49:37.720 It's gone.

00:49:38.820 They stripped us of everything that we've loved for 35 years.

00:49:45.040 So they just, they honestly, they got the rawest form of a, of a family that has so much integrity and so much fight.

00:49:54.540 And you just gave us time.

00:49:56.340 You took away our animals and you gave us time.

00:49:59.000 Um, and, uh, I'd be scared because we're, we're a pretty strong family.

00:50:05.060 Well, the fight continues, Katie, and that's where you go next.

00:50:09.300 And they will not get away with this.

00:50:12.900 They don't, no, no, the RCMP, the CFIA, the people who allowed this to happen and the people who facilitated it and who executed it, they will not get away with this and we're going to keep fighting.

00:50:27.220 So that's why folks, we do need your support, your financial support, the description, the information you need will be in the description.

00:50:35.560 You'll continue, you'll continue to see fundraising drives on X and other social media platforms increasing in the next few days and weeks as we prepare for what could be a huge financial burden.

00:50:50.300 But hopefully.

00:50:51.300 And it's a fight for everybody.

00:50:53.500 We are, we are still here and I hope it speaks to something.

00:50:57.160 Our animals are gone, but we're going to continue to fight for you.

00:51:00.640 We're not looking for, we're not fighting for a major win in compensation for our family.

00:51:05.560 We're fighting for change.

00:51:06.860 We are fighting to make everybody accountable in Canadian Food Inspection Agency.

00:51:12.080 We're fighting for the people who were stuck out on the highway and witnessed what they witnessed.

00:51:16.620 We're fighting for the world that had to watch that horror movie behind a screen.

00:51:21.800 We are fighting for every one of you and that's what we're going to continue to fight for.

00:51:26.120 So, this is about all of us and we're okay with taking that on and we're going to see it to the finish line.

00:51:34.260 So, rise up Canada.

00:51:36.100 Today was Miracle Monday and more miracles please because that's what's going to take us to the finish line.

00:51:45.740 You bet.

00:51:46.680 Amen to that.

00:51:49.020 Godspeed, Katie.

00:51:49.880 And we'll be in touch obviously.

00:51:52.880 Yeah.

00:51:53.340 How about a lot of things?

00:51:54.280 And we've got to move fast and furious and we're going to do that.

00:51:59.000 Thank you for your time today.

00:52:00.240 I know this is still a tender, tender time for you.

00:52:03.680 Very.

00:52:04.540 It's very hard.

00:52:05.600 I know.

00:52:06.120 And it's funny the last time you were on the show you had literally an hour before heard the news that the Supreme Court had dismissed your appeal.

00:52:13.940 And you knew what was coming within hours and it came.

00:52:17.420 And it shocked, I think, the world.

00:52:20.100 And I'll tell you this, though, Katie.

00:52:22.460 I know you've got to go.

00:52:26.060 But I wanted to tell you this.

00:52:27.180 The people on this broadcast who said, I don't understand why this story is relevant to me, disappeared.

00:52:36.800 Not that they weren't watching, but they got it by the end.

00:52:41.760 They understood what this farm had to do with them, with their property rights, with their individual freedom, with an aggressive, abusive, ravenous, Mark Carney government.

00:52:51.740 I want to lay this at his feet.

00:52:54.540 This is who was ultimately responsible for this disaster, Prime Minister Mark Carney.

00:53:00.740 And he needs to be, as well, part of this process.

00:53:06.100 So I can tell you, people, if we did anything, Katie, we made people realize that this was not just your fight or your farm's fight.

00:53:14.540 It was Canada's fight, which I said, when we first talked in April, that was in the first interview.

00:53:21.320 This is not just about me or my family or my farm.

00:53:24.320 This is about all Canadians and freedom in Canada.

00:53:27.860 And I think by the end of it, it happened in a horrible way.

00:53:32.200 But finally, everybody realized that, yeah, this is the way Canada is today.

00:53:37.540 They exposed themselves.

00:53:38.700 Yeah, November 6th and 7th, the Canadian Food Inspection Agency and government officials exposed themselves.

00:53:46.480 You exposed yourselves and you showed that you're the belly of the beast and you kept going.

00:53:53.240 You know, there was so many moments it could have stopped.

00:53:56.060 And it was a theatrical display of punishment is what happened in Edgewood, British Columbia.

00:54:01.140 This was a theatrical display of punishment for standing up for what you believe in and using your voice.

00:54:07.700 And this will never happen anywhere again.

00:54:11.380 I will fight my whole life to make sure that this never happens again to anybody else.

00:54:19.020 And no other animal goes through the torture and the torment that our animals went through when we spent decades teaching our animals to trust humans.

00:54:29.760 Katie, thank you so much for your time today.

00:54:32.640 We'll be in touch, obviously.

00:54:34.940 And God bless.

00:54:35.640 Godspeed.

00:54:36.800 Godspeed.

00:54:37.340 Thank you, everybody.

00:54:39.200 Bye for now.

00:54:39.900 Bye-bye, everybody.

00:54:42.600 That, of course, was Katie Basitne, a good friend and someone I've really grown to appreciate so much throughout this.

00:54:52.920 Thanks for watching today.

00:54:54.680 Thanks for watching earlier.

00:54:57.020 The fight continues, as Katie said.

00:55:00.120 We'll be back again tomorrow with another broadcast.

00:55:02.640 Thank you for sharing this station with your friends and family.

00:55:18.980 Thank you for hitting that like button, because I tell you, we have we are fighting back in a way I've never had to before.

00:55:25.960 Because I'm going to keep this station on the air.

00:55:29.260 I'm going to keep fighting for freedom.

00:55:31.180 I'm going to keep fighting for justice and truth.

00:55:33.360 And I am damn determined to resist this carny government in any way possible as it encroaches upon our individual freedom. 1.00

00:55:44.540 And it will continue to do that, mark my words.

00:55:49.800 I'll be back again tomorrow.

00:55:51.840 Same time, same place.

00:55:54.360 10 a.m.

00:55:54.960 This has been David Creighton, broadcasting live from our nation's capital in Ottawa.

00:56:01.660 Thank you for watching.

00:56:02.940 We'll see you again tomorrow.

00:56:03.960 The minions continue to fight.

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Stand on Guard with David Krayden - November 18, 2025

BREAKING： Charges Dropped Against Katie Pasitney Exclusive Interview ｜ Stand on Guard

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