Stand on Guard with David Krayden - EXCLUSIVE Interview w⧸ Richard Gillett： Mark Carney EXPOSED： Fishermen Betrayed! 🚢 ｜ Stand on Guard

00:00:01.000 Well, welcome back to another episode of Stand on Guard.

00:00:04.300 This is a real pleasure today because a lot of you, I'm sure, saw the episode in St. John's, Newfoundland, the other day,

00:00:12.340 where 500, not 50, 500 fishermen, or fish harvesters, as they like to be called, were shut out of a Mark Carney rally.

00:00:20.340 All they wanted to do was either speak to Mark Carney or even just the fisheries minister.

00:00:24.740 So I've got Richard Gillette with me today.

00:00:28.540 He was the guy you saw in most of that coverage who was leading this contingent of fish harvesters.

00:00:37.480 And he's been a fisherman, I guess, his entire life.

00:00:41.540 He's even done some TV.

00:00:43.880 But when we come back, let's meet Richard Gillette.

00:00:58.540 We need a political change.

00:01:04.000 But we also need a resolve to resist.

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00:01:31.240 So without further ado, I want to bring in Richard.

00:01:34.600 Good morning and welcome to Stand on Guard.

00:01:37.920 Good morning, David.

00:01:39.340 Glad to be here.

00:01:40.660 So nice to have you.

00:01:41.540 I'm just going to play a couple of maybe 30 seconds or so of the footage we had of the event

00:01:47.300 in St. John's, Newfoundland, the other day on Sunday.

00:01:51.900 I think most of our viewers are aware of it.

00:01:54.160 But just in case you're not, I'm just going to show some footage of that.

00:01:58.340 Are you Jason Sullivan?

00:01:59.660 You have a minute of your time.

00:02:01.680 So, tell me.

00:02:03.260 Yeah, we should have.

00:02:04.060 This place is full of fishermen. 1.00

00:02:05.880 Why are we here, Jason?

00:02:08.220 Oh, we're liberal supporters.

00:02:11.980 We're excited to see Prime Minister.

00:02:14.220 No, you're not.

00:02:15.140 No, you're not.

00:02:15.460 Oh, yeah.

00:02:16.660 He's just a regular Joe.

00:02:19.240 We want to see him.

00:02:20.040 All right.

00:02:21.380 If you're allowed to run through, you will not be allowed in.

00:02:24.160 No exception.

00:02:25.700 Prime Minister is going to be due, right?

00:02:28.240 I'm not too sure, but.

00:02:29.320 Team Joanne volunteer?

00:02:30.900 The event's not underway yet.

00:02:31.520 Do you know where Joanne is to?

00:02:33.780 The event's not underway yet, guys, okay?

00:02:35.300 I'm still volunteering.

00:02:36.200 I'm not too sure.

00:02:37.240 Yeah.

00:02:37.540 Well, we're open for you.

00:02:38.180 Can you get anyone that's all up to you and speak to?

00:02:40.100 Yeah.

00:02:40.640 When the event's open, I'm sure there's going to be someone who can help, right?

00:02:43.520 That door shouldn't have been unlocked, right?

00:02:46.740 But, of course, it was locked.

00:02:48.620 You were locked out of this event.

00:02:50.580 You didn't get to meet Mark Carney or the fisheries minister.

00:02:55.120 Now, before you take us through that day, I want people to understand what the issue is.

00:02:59.300 The federal government originally wanted to reduce the quota of the crab fisheries to 49% or to increase it to 49%.

00:03:10.120 Then they've come back and said, we'll give you 25%, but you're arguing that a 15% reduction is all you can really handle.

00:03:22.820 Is that right, Richard?

00:03:24.020 David, yeah.

00:03:25.660 Well, you know, you played the footage from Sunday, but this really happened back in Friday before the announcement, before the management plan was put down.

00:03:36.080 We wanted to give the minister, because we were getting rumblings that they weren't going to listen to us, as always.

00:03:42.000 With this liberal government, with this DFO that we got right now, that seems like that's the recurring theme with these guys.

00:03:52.540 So, Friday, we went in to protest that, you know, we wanted to make sure that, you know, we weren't going to have an over-absorbent cut in our stocks, because really, we're not seeing it in our area.

00:04:07.380 Now, I'd be the first one to say that, you know, we're conservation-minded.

00:04:10.940 You know, I'll be the first one.

00:04:12.840 Last year, we've seen our decline in our catches, and we took an 18% cut last year.

00:04:19.380 And then this year, with the survey that we had, with the pot survey, it showed a leveling off as a stock.

00:04:25.060 So, we've done the right thing.

00:04:26.920 This year, we went, so Friday, I'll get back to Friday.

00:04:32.660 So, we went in Friday to the federal building, and we contacted the minister's office and everything,

00:04:37.400 and they said that we wanted a decision before it was out on the management plan to let us know.

00:04:42.960 We were told 1 o'clock, and then we were told 2 o'clock, and then we were told that it was going to be later in the evening.

00:04:51.340 And by some chance, when the building was breached and fish harvesters could take them more,

00:04:58.300 literally, within 2 minutes, the Irish MP that was on site and one of our union representatives,

00:05:07.260 they were contacted within 2 minutes.

00:05:11.140 2 minutes of us doing, you know, doing the breach in the building, which we were peaceful before that.

00:05:16.580 But again, it had to take that escalation to get them to respond.

00:05:21.780 So, anyway, from that response is they give us the numbers.

00:05:25.280 And the numbers that we were given were absolutely devastating.

00:05:32.920 A 49% cut to our crab fleet right now is a 50% bankruptcy rate.

00:05:40.200 That's, you know, to get it to your listeners, that's exactly what it is. 0.94

00:05:45.040 No bullshit, no nothing.

00:05:47.160 A 50% bankruptcy rate. 0.95

00:05:50.560 Air and 3K, we're all separate areas.

00:05:53.280 3L is up off St. John's area.

00:05:56.360 We're further north and that.

00:05:57.860 And we didn't, we really didn't have the crab quotas that they have in the 3L area.

00:06:04.400 It's just the nature of our areas is just a not, you know, we don't have the bottom.

00:06:10.000 We don't have the environment for the crab. 0.86

00:06:11.600 So, we were never, we were never accessed to these high quotas of crab.

00:06:18.040 So, really, with any cut at all, it was, it's really detrimental.

00:06:22.400 So, anyway, Friday, we got those numbers.

00:06:26.220 And we decided we weren't moving.

00:06:28.000 We weren't moving from the building.

00:06:29.300 So, we occupied the building for overnight.

00:06:31.620 The arbiters were really steadfast in their belief of what they were doing was right.

00:06:36.440 And so, then, barring any, you know, any reaction from the minister's office out in St. John's,

00:06:46.760 well, we knew the news that minister, fisheries minister Joanne was doing her campaign kickoff in St. John's.

00:06:55.340 Plus, the prime minister was coming.

00:06:58.280 So, we decided to go to St. John's.

00:07:00.500 And this is where the footage that you see right now, earlier.

00:07:06.280 And this is where that footage came from.

00:07:09.160 And we were peaceful.

00:07:11.380 We've been peaceful, true at all.

00:07:12.820 And we said we would be peaceful.

00:07:14.260 But we, we went down to the convention center.

00:07:17.800 And what I can't understand is he acknowledged us that we were outside.

00:07:24.460 And he also, he also acknowledged in the crowd, in the supporters that he got, that he kicked off on his campaign is that we will restructure DFO, which, by the way, really needed.

00:07:37.400 And that we want to get closer to the wharf.

00:07:41.160 Okay, well, that means talk to fish harvesters.

00:07:45.060 Well, Mr. Carney, I'm still waiting for a conversation with you, either on the phone or in person.

00:07:52.300 So, that minute, Prime Minister Carney didn't have to wait until the election, because that's what he said.

00:07:57.840 If we're elected, if we're elected on the 28th, okay?

00:08:02.060 He didn't only, he didn't only have to wait until the 28th to see if he was elected.

00:08:07.540 You know, like a lot of these promises, he could have put it in play the next morning when we had a meeting, a meeting with the minister's office and DFO.

00:08:21.360 He could have done it next morning.

00:08:22.860 He could have put it in practice.

00:08:23.960 So, if he was going to restructure, and if he was doing it in good faith, what he was saying, he could have listened to us and made the change.

00:08:33.200 We would have been all fine.

00:08:34.900 We would have been happy to have a 15% reduction.

00:08:38.000 Our, half of our fleet wouldn't have been bankrupt.

00:08:40.100 And, we would have went on our merry way.

00:08:44.060 Now, since that, David, okay, I'll get into a little bit of the science part of this, okay?

00:08:50.740 And, I'll try to keep it simple, because it is very complicated.

00:08:54.100 I just want to point, I just want to say at this point, Richard, Mark Carney could be doing a lot of things right now, but it has to happen in five weeks after he gets his mandate.

00:09:06.280 And, so, what you're saying, I think, is representative of what this man is doing.

00:09:11.980 It's always, I can't do anything right now.

00:09:13.860 Well, he's prime minister right now, and he refuses to do any of the things he's talking about, I think, because he has no intention of doing them in five weeks either.

00:09:22.660 So, go ahead.

00:09:23.720 Sorry to interrupt.

00:09:24.640 David, I agree with you 100%, because this is just the same old, the same old thing, okay?

00:09:30.860 The same old thing.

00:09:31.980 And, I'm going to tell you right now, yeah, there is election call, okay?

00:09:36.040 But, I can tell you right now, if there's something happening in the government right now, there is protocols in that they can change it.

00:09:43.020 Listen, they changed it from 49 to 25.

00:09:46.960 So, there's your answer.

00:09:48.660 It can be done.

00:09:49.520 Yeah.

00:09:50.020 Anything can be done, okay?

00:09:51.720 Anything can be done if the will is there to change it.

00:09:56.220 And, the thing about it is, you know, that night that he didn't come out, you know, there was only a few arbitersers, what I call a few arbitersers, that he had to confront.

00:10:04.880 We were peaceful.

00:10:05.640 We were everything.

00:10:06.580 You know, you talk about, how is this man going to negotiate with Trump when he can't even come out and a few hundred fish arbiters?

00:10:14.300 Like, I don't, I really don't understand it.

00:10:17.980 So, you know, we're here right now.

00:10:21.460 And, I'll tell you the science part of this, okay?

00:10:24.120 Is, like I say, I'll keep it simple.

00:10:26.440 And, what we do in the surveys of the crab stock, we use a pot survey, which is what we use to fish the crab.

00:10:34.120 And, the second survey that we use is a trawl bottom survey.

00:10:40.640 That, you take a big net, you drag it along the bottom, just the same thing as you can fish and shrimp or codfish or any other thing.

00:10:48.300 And, what it does is it stays low to the bottom and it takes the crab into the trawl, okay?

00:10:54.160 Since 2002, or 22 years now, 20, 22 years, we've been doing these surveys this way.

00:11:01.760 So, on the trawl survey, we've really been only 10%, 12% in the difference from the pot survey.

00:11:10.680 This year, for some reason, that it's 50 plus.

00:11:15.640 It's really out of whack.

00:11:16.740 It's just simply out of whack.

00:11:19.200 And, what we're saying is that, you know, I did pose the question to science.

00:11:24.220 I'm still waiting for the answer, by the way.

00:11:26.720 We've been put off days now.

00:11:28.920 And, we're still wanting to know the answer.

00:11:31.380 Why, can you explain to me why this anomaly is there?

00:11:34.780 Now, maybe it's this or that or whatever.

00:11:38.380 But, in 2020, 2021, when we had the pandemics, they couldn't do the trawl surveys for physical distancing and all that stuff that was in play that time.

00:11:51.820 So, the department said we have the utmost confidence of the pot survey to set the tack, okay?

00:11:58.940 This is not new.

00:11:59.860 What we're asking them right now is not a new thing to do, okay?

00:12:03.720 So, we wanted them to take that survey out of it.

00:12:07.540 So, if they took the survey out of it and went back just with the pot survey, we would be status quo or a little bit of a decrease.

00:12:15.860 Because it's 600 tons in the difference from last year, okay?

00:12:19.440 So, we would be down to the level that we would be comfortable at and we could absorb because we've got Fisherman Air now, a multi-million dollar industry or fish adversaries with enterprises that, you know, can't take those absorber, you know, cuts in the crab.

00:12:36.580 And, the thing about it is, from one year to the next, you're talking about a 50% reduction.

00:12:42.520 That's not management data.

00:12:44.560 You know, if you're going to be managing something, you should be in the 10, 15, like that.

00:12:48.920 You should know, you should have your pulse on the species, on the biomasses, that you should never be any more than that.

00:12:56.060 Unless there's, out of the blue, some environmental freak thing happens.

00:13:00.680 But, on the whole, you should not be anything over that.

00:13:04.920 But, the fun thing is, is we have different areas.

00:13:08.500 We have 2J, 3K, 3L, 3PS, 4R.

00:13:13.700 So, we got around five different areas.

00:13:16.060 We're all supposed to be under the same regime, which is called a precautionary approach.

00:13:22.840 Okay?

00:13:23.480 So, you take the trial survey, you take the pot survey, you add it together, and then you divide so much that you're going to add and get your index, your biomass index.

00:13:33.040 So, that sets your quota.

00:13:34.220 However much the exploitation rate you want to take out of it.

00:13:36.820 You know, it could be 44, like us last year, 36, at a 15% reduction, we really, we really would have been down in the exploitation rate of the biomass from 44 to 36.

00:13:49.100 So, we were going to help the stock.

00:13:51.680 Okay?

00:13:52.340 So, again, fishermen, conservation minded.

00:13:56.100 But, in 3L, we have asked for the numbers, and we have went over the numbers.

00:14:01.840 And, for some reason, that we can't get an answer, and we can't figure it out.

00:14:09.300 Because, the same biomass index number for this year is the same number that it was for 2023 and 2024.

00:14:19.340 Even though their trial survey and pot survey was down, our trial survey and pot survey was down, but the number of 205, we can't understand where they got it to.

00:14:35.380 Now, we were treated to a one-year management plan.

00:14:39.760 We usually do a two-year rollover, rolling average.

00:14:43.460 So, now, they've done it with one-year, and it seems like in 3L, I got nothing against 3L.

00:14:50.220 You know, good on them that you got the crab stocks, the crab biomass, and everything like that.

00:14:55.840 But, the problem that we got is the minister is telling us that we have to do it this way, and we'll do it a different way for another group of fishermen.

00:15:06.340 Okay?

00:15:06.740 And, the thing about it is that if you're going to treat us all and put us in bankruptcy mode, well, you treat us all right.

00:15:16.180 So, we can't figure out where does 205 come from.

00:15:21.020 Okay?

00:15:21.460 We can't get the answers.

00:15:22.780 Again, we ask the hard questions, and we cannot get the answers.

00:15:27.460 So, with a 205, David, it seems like that they threw out the pot survey, which was down, they threw out the trial survey, which was down, and picked that number from a two-year rolling average, which really should be done.

00:15:43.480 And, that's all we ask.

00:15:44.760 We ask to be equal.

00:15:46.180 Yeah, and you've got these, clearly the science on your side, but do you think this is all about politics for this liberal government, looking like it's very, very concerned about the ecology, and it's not going to let these horrible fish harvesters disrupt it for them?

00:16:06.100 Well, see, David, you know, science, we've been at, we've, we've, this is not a new thing for us, but with science and the disconnect, okay?

00:16:13.200 This is not a new thing.

00:16:14.520 You know, over the past nine years, this liberal government, listen, we lost the macro fishery, which took 200, took $2.5 million out of my enterprise, okay?

00:16:24.900 And other enterprises like that were really, really dependent on this macro fishery.

00:16:29.400 And the macro fishery was closed on nothing only the ENGOs and environmentalists and the woke nation that's infiltrated this government.

00:16:39.840 And that's the only reason.

00:16:41.000 It's not because of stocks.

00:16:42.140 It's not because of the macro is not there, because we're fishermen.

00:16:46.040 I, I, and that is one of my main fisheries, the pelagic fishery.

00:16:49.320 I'm a pelagic fisherman, mostly.

00:16:51.620 And I know, I know what I'm seeing on the water.

00:16:54.660 We can't get any airing quotas.

00:16:57.380 The herring is, is absolutely millions in our waters.

00:17:00.560 There are that, that many that they're actually stunting the growth of the, of the herring.

00:17:06.140 There's not enough food for, and we are gradually going down and down.

00:17:10.760 We're gone from 90, we're, we're gone from, uh, hundreds, uh, uh, thousands of tons of herring one time down to, uh, 14,000 tons.

00:17:20.100 You know, we were gone from hundreds of thousands of tons of capelot down to 14,000, 16,000 tons.

00:17:26.580 Like, you know, it's, it's a different story if you had something else to go to.

00:17:32.420 Okay.

00:17:33.040 We don't have anything else.

00:17:34.860 DFO science.

00:17:36.440 Okay.

00:17:36.880 Which is almost always out of whack, always out of touch because they don't have any fishermen, you know, input.

00:17:45.680 We're down to nothing.

00:17:47.860 You know, you can say, well, you've got codfish.

00:17:50.760 No, we went from, we went from a high of, of five to 700,000 tons in the heyday down to 18,000 tons.

00:18:01.160 Like what, David, what are you supposed to do with it?

00:18:04.680 What, you know, there is nothing to market.

00:18:06.880 There is nothing.

00:18:07.720 We're losing processing capability here in Newfoundland.

00:18:11.500 And, and that would be a problem right now is that if we do get, uh, uh, quotas increased, we can't do anything with them.

00:18:19.920 There's nobody there to take it.

00:18:21.280 There's nobody there to process it because over the years of cuts and cuts and cuts and cuts that everybody is, has really condensed into, you know, like here in, in the province, like we got five or six processing plants for pelagics.

00:18:35.120 Where one time we had hundreds, we had hundreds.

00:18:38.660 And I don't know how this government can, can really say, okay, let's stamp on them.

00:18:45.940 Let's stamp on them again.

00:18:47.640 They're down boys.

00:18:48.420 Let's stamp on them.

00:18:49.260 We got a four hour fleet.

00:18:50.340 Just took a 33% reduction in shrimp.

00:18:53.740 It's devastating.

00:18:57.040 Absolutely devastating.

00:19:00.100 And bankruptcy numbers.

00:19:00.960 And, and, and it's frustrating, David, that, you know, you wear them.

00:19:04.860 We got your back.

00:19:06.160 I don't know if anybody ever heard that before from the liberal government.

00:19:08.880 We got your back.

00:19:10.440 Every other day.

00:19:11.960 Right.

00:19:13.460 You know, do you think Mark Carney has any understanding of ordinary Canadians?

00:19:18.860 Absolutely not.

00:19:21.120 Absolutely not.

00:19:22.400 And to me, in my opinion about Carney, he has no more of an idea about the ordinary Canadians.

00:19:29.100 Can you remember that he could not answer in the debate?

00:19:33.600 He could not answer the average weekly cost of a grocery bill in an ordinary household.

00:19:40.280 You understand that?

00:19:42.140 How adequate you are.

00:19:44.880 Right.

00:19:45.680 So if you want to represent ordinary Canadians, boy, you come down to our level. 0.84

00:19:49.700 You should have come out the other night and spoke to us.

00:19:53.020 You should have the other night when you made that promise in the campaign hall.

00:19:56.540 You should have delivered on it in the next, in the next morning and showed everybody in good faith that you are the man of your word and you would have done it.

00:20:06.200 Instead of that, it's hollow promises again.

00:20:11.020 Well, Mark Carney had a, had a question yesterday in Halifax at a news conference.

00:20:15.760 The last question of the day, mind you, and he was PO'd that somebody wanted to ask him a last question.

00:20:23.580 He's upset.

00:20:25.180 He's looking at this reporter with the evil eye that he reserves for just about everybody he doesn't like or agree with.

00:20:32.980 But I want your comment on this, on this exchange here.

00:20:35.600 Stations in parts of the province that really, really rely on fisheries and being sandwiched between the tariffs from China and the U.S., what will you tell people who rely on that, who are worried about their jobs disappearing?

00:20:50.900 Well, look, first is very focused on, I met with the Minister of Fisheries and Oceans two days ago, 36 hours ago, going through a number of issues around that.

00:21:02.880 This, we have put in place a series of measures to protect workers, engagement with both the Americans, Chinese on these issues, something we discussed at, at first ministers.

00:21:14.260 Look, we're going to fight, we're going to fight for the fishery.

00:21:16.160 We're fighting for a sustainable fishery.

00:21:18.700 It's integral.

00:21:19.980 Look, these are people's livelihoods.

00:21:22.480 It's also, it's part of who we are as Canadians.

00:21:25.640 It's part of our core identity.

00:21:27.780 And so, no greater priority.

00:21:29.680 So, the message is, we're there.

00:21:31.580 And, again, we have representation.

00:21:36.420 And it's very important to have that representation at the table, fighting for those individuals.

00:21:43.100 And we're going to do everything we can.

00:21:46.160 What do you think?

00:21:46.840 A load of BS?

00:21:48.160 Oh, boy.

00:21:49.140 I can smell it all the ways from here.

00:21:52.120 To be honest with you.

00:21:53.740 Okay?

00:21:54.480 You know, the thing is, is, you know, I'll use, and I said this right to the minister, okay?

00:22:01.440 Go with $3,000 an ounce.

00:22:03.860 But we can't get none of that either.

00:22:05.360 So, the price, the tariffs, you can do all that things.

00:22:09.160 But in our case right now is we have nothing to sell.

00:22:13.740 They are taking everything that we got to make money and what we got to sell to ensure our enterprises and our families and our communities and everything can survive.

00:22:24.320 They are actually taking that dollar.

00:22:26.640 So, really, the tariffs doesn't matter to us right now.

00:22:31.120 What they're going to do for us right now.

00:22:33.660 And, again, I'll go back to we got you back.

00:22:37.780 We got you back.

00:22:39.080 But guess what?

00:22:39.680 We're still trying to survive from COVID as fish adversaries.

00:22:43.860 You know, we're still trying to get our legs out, you know, in under us.

00:22:47.000 We're still trying to survive from that.

00:22:49.880 So, we've had hit after hit after hit after hit.

00:22:55.340 And, again, you know, with that statement right there, Mr. Kearney, you had a chance.

00:23:00.840 You were concerned.

00:23:02.880 You're saying you're concerned.

00:23:04.500 But you weren't concerned enough to come out and talk to us.

00:23:07.640 You didn't have those concerns.

00:23:08.780 You didn't have enough concern to solve this problem.

00:23:12.660 You didn't have enough concern.

00:23:14.960 And if he's uncomfortable, good on him.

00:23:17.800 Because, have a guess what?

00:23:19.120 He's starting to come down and see how the ordinary people of Canada live.

00:23:24.520 Yeah, well, that was a robotic response, like everything with Mark Kearney.

00:23:29.360 I've got to tell you, Richard, I don't understand the appeal of this man.

00:23:33.480 And even if I was a liberal, I would not understand the appeal of this man.

00:23:37.620 He has the personality of a reptile.

00:23:41.000 He's completely uninterested in meeting people.

00:23:44.360 He looks like he's aloof, distanced.

00:23:48.320 He dismisses people.

00:23:50.180 He hasn't got time to deal with this.

00:23:53.200 And don't ask me another question.

00:23:55.580 What do you think I am, running for office or something?

00:23:57.660 This guy, I find him completely unappealing.

00:24:01.640 But I've got to ask you, you've done a lot of interviews.

00:24:04.800 You've done a whack of interviews in the last couple of days.

00:24:07.140 A lot of them with the mainstream media.

00:24:10.360 Do you think the story would have had any play at all on the mainstream media if it hadn't first appeared on what I like to call the new media, on social media?

00:24:20.440 I mean, there was a lot of this on X.

00:24:22.320 There was a lot of this on YouTube and Rumble.

00:24:25.940 And people found out about this, first of all, from the new media.

00:24:29.880 The mainstream media ignored this completely at the beginning.

00:24:34.400 And CBC claimed, yeah, there was a contingent of fishermen there.

00:24:38.000 But Mark Carney acknowledged them.

00:24:39.960 And I thought, something wrong here.

00:24:42.500 What do you think?

00:24:43.840 Well, you know, the thing is with the media, you know, you can always twist it the way that you want to portray it.

00:24:50.780 You know, we didn't get much traction out in Grand Falls when we were out in Grand Falls.

00:24:55.700 Actually, there was absolutely no.

00:24:58.620 I don't think my wife is there and she's been standing by my side here to all this.

00:25:04.440 And she's a fish officer, too.

00:25:06.340 And I don't think there was a camera out in Grand Falls.

00:25:11.100 So, you know, David, that's why we made the decision to come in here in St. John's.

00:25:17.900 And, you know, I've done interviews with the NTV air, CBC in that air.

00:25:25.380 And we've kind of air.

00:25:28.240 Yeah, I consider that we've got, you know, favorable air time and, you know, respectable, you know, doing our review.

00:25:38.140 They portrayed what we've had.

00:25:41.000 But, again, we had to come to St. John's is the thing.

00:25:45.860 And, you know, with Kearney really kicking off his campaign here in St. John's, we just thought that it would be a good chance for this man to show his true colors and talk to the fish officers of Newfoundland and Labrador, which there's a lot of us.

00:26:04.100 And he just blew it, to be honest with you.

00:26:09.240 He blew it.

00:26:10.100 He blew it.

00:26:10.460 Well, my final question, I really want to thank you for being with us today, because I think this story is very important.

00:26:19.060 And to me, it symbolizes how detached and unreal our prime minister, and I hate to call him that, but prime minister Mark Carney is.

00:26:27.640 But do you think the mainstream media is in his pocket?

00:26:31.760 Are they giving him a free ride so far in this campaign?

00:26:34.560 And since he announced he was running for the leadership of the Liberal Party, has the mainstream media been giving Mark Carney a free ride?

00:26:44.860 Well, you know, in my personal opinion, yes.

00:26:48.480 Okay?

00:26:49.120 You know, and not a free ride, I guess, but I guarantee you that you haven't been asking the hard questions that really need to be asked.

00:26:54.860 You know, and the thing about it here in Newfoundland, with Carney coming from Trudeau and everything, boy, we're hurting.

00:27:03.400 We're hurting from the last nine years of Trudeau.

00:27:06.260 We are absolutely hurting.

00:27:09.320 Okay?

00:27:10.040 And, you know, there's a lot of people here in Newfoundland and Labrador, I can tell you now, are, you know, are not accepting the fact and forgetting the fact of the last nine years.

00:27:22.080 And, you know, me personally, I really do think that if they get in again, we are, and this is not only me, this is a lot of fish arbiters are saying, that we are absolutely done. 0.96

00:27:38.420 There's a saying, there's a saying here in Newfoundland we got about all this, is that replacing Carney with Trudeau is like shitting in your clothes and just changing your shirt. 0.96

00:27:49.040 And don't change a thing. 0.98

00:27:52.740 That's perfect.

00:27:53.880 That is, that is perfect.

00:27:55.960 I think we should probably leave it on that long note, because it doesn't get much better than that.

00:28:01.140 Richard Gillette, Newfoundland fish harvester.

00:28:04.820 I still say fisherman. 0.98

00:28:05.920 I never said fisher, even though that was in the Canadian press style of guy.

00:28:10.440 We'd never catch me saying that.

00:28:12.060 Thank you so much for joining us today.

00:28:13.500 And, you know, Godspeed with what you're doing.

00:28:16.360 Keep up the fight, as we like to say in this station, resolve to resist.

00:28:20.460 That's what I'm trying to do with Mark Carney, because I'm not going to have some globalist installed as the prime minister of this country and just ride roughshod over our freedoms.

00:28:29.320 Like he did to you the other day.

00:28:33.100 The hell with these 500 people. 0.99

00:28:37.240 Keep them outside. 0.99

00:28:38.360 Who are they?

00:28:38.980 Who do they think they are?

00:28:40.360 Well, you think you're Canadians. 0.93

00:28:41.940 You think you're voters and you think you have a right to meet with a man who's running the highest office in the land.

00:28:48.200 And he denied you that.

00:28:49.860 So I'm as upset about this as you are, Richard.

00:28:53.160 But thank you for thank you for joining this show today and I want to stay in touch and have you back on and you can tell me about your progress.

00:29:02.100 Thank you very much.

00:29:04.020 Bye for now.

00:29:06.420 That was Richard Gillette and fascinating conversation.

00:29:09.820 And before we go, I've got more and I'm not going to go with too much overtime, but this is the latest outrage about China and Mark Carney.

00:29:24.180 And I tell you, it's bad.

00:29:26.360 Conservative leadership campaign.

00:29:28.500 What are your comments on that?

00:29:31.680 Well, first of all, let's look.

00:29:34.120 Let's quote from that Globe and Mail article in a quote here.

00:29:36.420 CSIS also did not have evidence that Mr. Polyev or members of his inner circle were aware of these alleged actions.

00:29:45.280 Then I'm going to quote the Hogue Commission.

00:29:47.280 And I quote, the commission heard testimony about allegations of the government India interference in the Conservative Party leadership race.

00:29:56.200 CSIS witnesses noted that they had no reason to believe the impacted candidates would have been aware of the alleged support.

00:30:04.080 Let's be honest, I won the leadership fair and square.

00:30:07.160 Even my political competitors, like Mr. Patrick Brown, have publicly testified under oath that that was the case.

00:30:14.120 But I'm glad that the Liberals put this attack out today.

00:30:19.320 Really glad.

00:30:20.940 Because there's something that's really been worrying me.

00:30:22.940 After Justin Trudeau named Mark Carney, his economic advisor, giving him massive power over public policy in Canada, Mr. Carney went over for meetings in Beijing, where he just had secret talks with the deputy governor of the Chinese Central Bank.

00:30:44.580 Two weeks later, Brookfield got a quarter billion dollar loan.

00:30:52.780 What did they talk about?

00:30:54.940 What did Mr. Carney in his role as Trudeau's economic advisor offer of China?

00:30:59.920 Why would he be having secret meetings with top government-controlled bankers about getting a quarter billion dollar loan while he was supposed to be acting in Canada's interest as the Prime Minister's economic advisor?

00:31:15.020 Why would he be collaborating with a hostile foreign regime that we have since learned executed for Canadians and took numerous Canadians hostage for a lengthy period of time?

00:31:28.200 And given that Mr. Carney knows that he still owns massive financial interests in Brookfield, which owes a quarter billion dollars to a Chinese state-controlled bank, how do we know he's not going to act against our interests in favor of his financial interests?

00:31:50.320 Why didn't he stand in front of this microphone and confess to Canadians that he owes the Chinese government that kind of money?

00:31:59.800 Is this why he's covering up his financial interests?

00:32:03.340 And given that China has murdered our people, taken our people hostage, how is he ever going to stand up to foreign interference when he is so financially compromised?

00:32:15.940 We have never in our history had a weak, out-of-touch leader so terribly compromised and conflicted whose interests go against our national interests.

00:32:30.280 And I call on Mr. Carney right now to come before a microphone today and explain if this loan is still in place and if he still has those Brookfield assets that he had up until a few weeks ago.

00:32:43.440 Because we cannot trust someone, could you imagine, while you're supposed to be advising Canada's Prime Minister on the well-being of our economy, going to a foreign regime that had executed Canadian citizens, taken Canadians hostage, 0.59

00:33:00.220 that it had already been public, that they had interfered in multiple elections, they've done incursions into our northern waters.

00:33:11.560 Mark Carney will never be able to protect our national interests because he has massive financial conflicts of interest overseas.

00:33:20.100 What we need now is not to give the Liberals a fourth term with a weak and compromised leader.

00:33:25.740 What we need is a Prime Minister who will put Canada first for a change.

00:33:31.120 Obviously, Mark Carney can't do that.

00:33:34.240 He can't put Canada first because he puts Mark Carney first.

00:33:37.260 What is this called, folks?

00:33:39.040 Well, I have a name for it.

00:33:41.800 It's called Influence Peddling.

00:33:44.480 That's what you do.

00:33:45.940 Mark Carney's the chief economic advisor at the time to Justin Trudeau.

00:33:51.520 How does he sell himself?

00:33:52.940 Well, guess what, folks?

00:33:54.240 I'm not only the chief economic advisor to Justin Trudeau, I expect to be Prime Minister very soon because I'm going to run for the leadership of the Liberal Party and it's going to be virtually unopposed.

00:34:03.960 I expect to win.

00:34:06.500 That's the kind of corruption we're up against.

00:34:09.540 Yeah, Mark Carney?

00:34:12.380 Task Force.

00:34:13.380 And here's the evidence of the meeting.

00:34:20.160 And the funny thing is, guess where this was reported?

00:34:24.640 Bloomberg reported.

00:34:27.220 And guess who the chairman of Bloomberg is?

00:34:29.720 Mark Carney.

00:34:31.360 It's absolutely astounding.

00:34:33.580 Yes, Bloomberg reported this.

00:34:38.700 The company has secured a 15-year offshore loan of $1.96 billion won.

00:34:45.780 $276 million from the Bank of China.

00:34:50.800 What else has Mark Carney been up to when he's out there securing loans while he's out there representing the government of Canada?

00:35:03.060 Well, perhaps you can say, well, he wasn't directly working for the government of Canada.

00:35:07.380 He was working for the prime minister who happens to be a large part of the government of Canada.

00:35:13.900 So it's splitting hairs, isn't it?

00:35:16.700 But this man is just reeks of problems.

00:35:20.500 And the question arises, of course, this is the same Mark Carney who told China that the yuan should replace the U.S. dollar as the currency for global use.

00:35:30.060 This is the same Mark Carney who wants a digital currency, by the way.

00:35:34.300 But he said repeatedly, and we have quoted him, that he wants the Chinese yuan to replace the U.S. dollar.

00:35:42.900 Because China has such great environmental policies.

00:35:46.460 It is beyond belief.

00:35:51.640 Now, Beijing, or China, announced retaliatory tariffs on several Canadian farm imports in response to the Canadian duties levied back in the fall against Chinese-made electric vehicles, which, of course, are not selling at all in Canada.

00:36:06.020 So why do we have tariffs on Chinese vehicles?

00:36:09.600 Well, nobody's buying the Canadian-made electric vehicles.

00:36:13.520 But here's the kicker.

00:36:16.120 China is hitting Canadian farmers with 100% tariff on canola oil and peas and a 25% tariff on pork and aquatic products.

00:36:25.600 Aquatic products?

00:36:26.820 Hey, we just talked to a fisherman.

00:36:30.280 You see the connection?

00:36:31.380 This is all interrelated.

00:36:33.460 It's frightening.

00:36:34.460 So my question to you, viewers, friends, is Mark Carney saying nothing to China right now because he's tainted?

00:36:45.520 Not only because of this loan, but because of years of being in China's pocket. 0.87

00:36:53.060 And we've talked about that in our deep dive, and we'll talk about that more in the substack.

00:36:58.660 This is a horrendous situation.

00:37:03.260 This is a prime minister who is obviously in a very difficult position.

00:37:10.600 And he should not be given a four- or five-year mandate.

00:37:17.060 He hasn't come clean about any of his financial interests.

00:37:20.860 He hasn't talked about any, and guess why?

00:37:23.060 Because he has 120 days to do that.

00:37:25.720 And by that time, he could be elected as prime minister instead of just appointed.

00:37:32.540 That can't happen.

00:37:35.640 More about this tomorrow, folks, because this is, I think, one of the chief stories of the year.

00:37:42.000 And we have to focus on it.

00:37:43.760 Thank you for watching today.

00:37:45.640 I'll be back again tomorrow with all the news you need to know.

00:37:49.660 I'll be back again tomorrow with all the news you need to know.

Stand on Guard with David Krayden - March 26, 2025

EXCLUSIVE Interview w⧸ Richard Gillett： Mark Carney EXPOSED： Fishermen Betrayed! 🚢 ｜ Stand on Guard

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