EXPOSED： Carney is Stealing Our Freedom ｜ Stand on Guard
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In this episode of Stand On Guard, I talk about the Prime Minister's trip to the Middle East, the Iran crisis, the U.S. strike on Iran, the Canadian government's attempt to get rid of gas-powered vehicles and much, much more.
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welcome back to another episode of stand on guard this is your host david creighton coming at you
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live from ottawa and we try to do this live every day part of this broadcast won't exactly be live
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it's a recording of an interview i had yesterday and that's the premier event we're going to be
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getting that shortly before we do a couple of things to talk about
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the prime minister lied and his menus continue to lie
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thank you for watching please subscribe we've had a real dearth of subscribers
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you've been unsubscribed please because i i'll tell you why because i i suspected a lot of people
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were unhappy that i was talking about the mid east and this is a sneak preview of what i'm going to be
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showing you tomorrow we we have some polling on whether or not canadians and americans really want
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the united states or donald trump to initiate a strike against iran and to become literally
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enmeshed into this war in a shooting war now i did a poll asking should the u.s intervene
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in the israel israel iran conflict or stay out of foreign wars as president trump promised
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sorry sorry 79 percent of you said no the u.s should not intervene
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so i think you know that indicates that a lot of you are really not enthused about this now and
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tomorrow i've got other polls to show you and i think and i've got a substat going up this afternoon
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about this very issue i think it's reasonable i think it's something that we really need to
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understand right now there is nothing inevitable about war we we can have we can give peace a chance
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and that's how i start this this column but here's another story about those arson incident
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for arson related to the wildfires and what did we hear within hours of the wildfires
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outbreak has to be climate change couldn't be anything else
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well clearly it's something else called arson these people are crazy
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starting fires and i think because they're trying to link it to climate change that's how nuts these
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i would point you towards my latest article in blaze media
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which just came out last night canada the solution to reliance on the u.s increasing commitments to europe
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how mark carney wants to spend 225 billion that's b that's billion with a capital b
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on rearming europe this is insane this is absolutely insane
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as i promised we're going to get to that john carpe interview is this is really worth
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watching because we get into the latest toxic bills from the carney government and why they're toxic
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we specifically deal with bill c2 and bill c5 and how carney is probably going to revisit
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the online harms act so this is very serious i want to play a bit of this
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this is michael barrett talking about how the conservatives want something in parliament here
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commons and this is big news we had an opposition day motion last week that uh was on notice in my name
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along and seconded by uh my colleague kelly mccauley you'll know him from uh the mighty ogo where kelly's
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the chair and this motion was about the 64 million dollars in the arrive scam which the auditor general
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determined was a project where there is uh in in many cases no proof that the work that was paid for by
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taxpayers was done that security clearances weren't in place where they needed to be in place
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and the government initially the liberals voted against having the auditor general even investigate
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so we put this motion on notice last week and it was we used it as our opposition day
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and there's a lot of things we could use for an opposition day motion but
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here is a case where it's tens of millions of taxpayer dollars in a time when canadians are
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struggling to get by and we have the liberals with prime minister carney saying it's a new government
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he's a new prime minister it's going to be new days and new ways so we said you know what let's give
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them a chance to do the right thing the wrong thing but that well i'm going to play the rest of that
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tomorrow because i don't want to go too much over time here so we can have time for the interview
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but i want to show you andrew sheer really hit the bell yesterday about what's going on
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with this liberal desire to outlaw phase out gas-powered engines gas-powered vehicles what
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what are they why are they doing this this liberal government is doubling down on its insane
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ban on gas-powered vehicles the latest liberal overreach kicks in next year and soon your favorite
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car truck and van will be illegal but this mandate is already driving up prices the average price of a
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new car is 67 000 used cars are approaching 40 000 and this liberal mandate will add an additional
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20 000 per vehicle they've already priced working canadians out of the housing market why are they
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pricing working canadians out of the ability to buy a vehicle as well the honorable minister of the
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environment and climate change mr speaker first let's start with the facts which is there is no ban on
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gas-powered vehicles but more to the point let's also say once again we're seeing the conservatives
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talking there's a ban in place in 2035 julie environment and climate change minister that's what
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andrew's referring down one of our most important industries employing hard-working auto workers in our
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country at the very moment that we're facing tariffs threats from the united states i find it rich that
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they're choosing to take this position instead of talking up a growing and important industry we stand
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with our auto workers there absolutely is a ban it starts to come into effect next year and it will
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absolutely devastate the auto sector here in canada the auto sector is already under fire from unjustified
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u.s tariffs and the pm's inability to get a deal but gm ford are all saying that this ban will kill
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jobs in fact a new report says that this ban on gas-powered vehicles will kill 90 000 auto jobs instead
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of sending even more jobs to the u.s why not end the ban on gas-powered vehicles and let canadians
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decide what kind of vehicle they want to buy the honorable minister of the environment and climate
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change mr speaker it's nice to hear that they're finally recognizing that we we're talking about an
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industry that's facing unjustified tariffs from the united states but let's also talk about how our auto
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sector is important we need to support it in this moment it's creating good-paying union jobs in our
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country an ev standard actually makes sure that new electric vehicles are available to canadians they're
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cheaper to operate they're cheaper on upkeep and canadians want to be able to have access
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they're not cheaper on upkeep you can't keep your electric car charged and do the laundry in the
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same week that's how cheap they are the honorable leader of the opposition you don't have to allow
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canadians to buy one type of vehicle by banning their ability to buy the ones that actually
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you know this is raising a lot of questions canadians auto workers 4gm they all don't want
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the ev mandate but the prime minister's intent on pushing it through why well right before becoming
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prime minister he was chair of brookfield and he advocated for a ban on gas-powered cars brookfield
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is heavily invested in the ev supply chain yet this prime minister refuses to reveal his financial
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interests or self-admitted conflicts isn't it true that this isn't about the environment this is about the
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bottom line for brookfield and folks it always goes back to brookfield asset management when you're
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talking about why mark carney makes decisions why mark carney behaves he does and why mark carney
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is the way he is now without further ado let's get to this interview with john carpe i hope you enjoy
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this folks john is a good friend and a fantastic fan of this station and he's always welcome here
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one well welcome back to stand on gardens very happy to have john carpe of the justice center for
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constitutional freedoms back on the show john has been here before the last time around john we were
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talking about bill c63 and you were taking your message to canadians across the country about how
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dangerous this bill was and we'll get we'll get back to how the liberals are going to revisit that bill i'm
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sure but i want to lead off with bill c2 which i think the conservatives were a little slow to
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recognize as being as bad as it is i i didn't hear a lot of discussion about it and when uh pure poly
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it was asked by a reporter what do you think about bill c2 you think this is a danger and they said well
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we'll have to look at the bill more closely a couple of days later of course uh calgary nose hill
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member of parliament michelle rempel garner got up and started talking about bill c2 as being
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potentially dangerous now why do you think this bill could be one of the most toxic pieces of
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legislation the liberals have ever tried to foist on this country in a nutshell the bill if passed in its
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current form would give government officials uh power to access all kinds of information about
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citizens without a search warrant now as kind of as background the way that our criminal justice system
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has been functioning generally the past 157 years since confederation and even prior to that there's a
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presumption that a citizen has a right to privacy a citizen has a right to security in their home
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uh police or or other law enforcement cannot barge into your home uh there there's the government does
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not have some sort of a god-given right to have all kinds of information about everybody and you know
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who's subscribing to rogers and who's on netflix and who stayed at which hotel when and who's renting a car
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etc now law enforcement needs to do their job so we've struck a balance the past 157 years
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whereby if the police have reasonable and probable grounds to think that somebody is engaging in
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crime maybe something to do with you know child pornography or weapons or what fraud i mean whatever
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if they have reasonable and probable grounds the police can go to a judge and they can apply for a
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search warrant they have to swear an affidavit indicating what information they have and why they
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think that that person should be further investigated why that individual's privacy rights should be
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violated uh because he or she is probably uh engaging in criminal conduct they get a narrow search warrant
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that allows them to barge into one home only and that's the home of somebody where they have
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reasonable grounds to think that the crime criminal activity is taking place everybody else their home is
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sacrosanct the police can't barge in it's the same for information um if the let's say the police think
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that somebody named mark smith my apologies to all the mark smiths out there if they think that mark smith
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is involved in in um producing distributing child pornography they can go to a big company like rogers and
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say look we've got we suspect mark smith of such and such you know we want some information on him
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and if the company doesn't comply police can get a search warrant or a court order and so there are
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two you only have and then they could look at his email and you know maybe get into his computer look
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at his internet activity whatever so this is just background information what c2 does is it gives
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government this broad access without a search warrant to get the names and ip addresses and subscriber data
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of every business in canada whether you're a hotel or a car rental company whether you're a church a
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charity a non-profit the government would get legal access to say to the church um give me we want your
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uh email list and uh we want we want the names and email addresses of of uh of all the people you
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know most churches i assume they're they've got an email list they might have an email newsletter like
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you know most groups do and so that's a really scary part is that that government would get access to
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yeah i i think i think that's what concerns me about this this bill it would force me
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to actually hand over a list of subscribers and their addresses which i think a huge invasion
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of privacy but the the internet access of course and and the surveillance concerns me because that's
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what this government has been doing for the last 10 years i know mike mark carney likes to call
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it canada's new government he won't even call it canada's liberal government but and i think there's
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a method to that and method to his madness there but before i got in i found it fascinating that this
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bill would allow the rcmp and canada post workers to open mail now you know people might say well you
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know i don't send a lot of information out by mail but you would you would recall the mcdonald commission
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of the 1970s which was targeting what the the rcmp operations at that time which which was opening
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people's mail and the government argued at the time that we needed to create a spy agency or an
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intelligence network in this country to do that instead so so we would entrust that to what eventually
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became the canadian security intelligence service ceases which was created as a result of mcdonald
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commission but here we have a bill that's actually advocating we go back to a canada where the rcmp is
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opening our mail and is compounding it by saying a canada post workers can can open our mail and without
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without a warrant and i find this to be just once again you don't have to go too deep into mark
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carney's legislation to find the toxicity in it and and to find the poison pill and and did this sort
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of astound you that once again the government is recommending the rcmp get into the opening of mail
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business it's the same it's it's the same attitude it's the same spirit that the government is entitled
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to become as as omniscient as it would like to be and just get all this information now people who are
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ignorant of history they have this naive trust in government you know government would never harm us
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a government would never lie to us government has our best interests at heart uh which only those who
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are ignorant of history could have that kind of an attitude but unfortunately there are a lot of people
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in this country who have this naive uh fairy tale like trust which would be you know an appropriate
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attitude for a kindergarten student to have towards their teacher or for a you know three four five six
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year old to have towards their parents there's a time and a place for that kind of an attitude but
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uh those who know history will know that in the 20th century uh in the 1900s more people were
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murdered by their own government and that includes uh soviet union under stalin and other brutal dictators
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china under mao germany under the national socialists nazi occupied europe polpot and cambodia
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more people were murdered by their own government than the number of soldiers who died in the
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battlefield which was also a huge number of course and so the point is not you know well i've got
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nothing to fear you know if the uh if if the if canada post opens my mail they're just going to see a
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friendly letter to my aunt martha wishing her happy birthday and i don't care if anybody sees that
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it's not the point the point is that you don't want to give government this access to intrude into
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privacy and to gather all this information and for true crime for and that crime is a problem we need
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to fight it uh the police can go and get a search warrant and they can open the mail of one targeted
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individual when they get a court approval to open the mail of mark smith they can do that but to twist that
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into some broader right where any canada post worker on some you know reasonable suspicion
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decides to open mail is is just uh it is it's creepy it's totalitarian it's it's inviting tyranny
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well you know there's a pain there's a great line from the mystery novel the maltese falcon and which
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of course is a famous film about everybody has something to hide uh which is what sam sam spade
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says to the police at one point everybody's got something to hide so let's not let's not pretend
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that there isn't uh a hidden motive here but i i find this to be just indicative of this of this
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government right now and how it really believes it has the right to take away privacy and what really
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concerns me here john is that governments finding discovering information in people's files on their
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computers in their mail that wasn't there to begin with because we know when governments want to
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cancel people well how did that get on the computer and i don't trust this government to not lay their
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evidence to not to not actually plant evidence if they're looking to destroy somebody and and i can see
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this being a huge problem for all of us who are doing social media broadcasts such as this show here
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which consumes a lot of my time i still do do do stories for media outlets other than my own but this
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is a driving force in my life right now and i know there are people who i offend largely mark carney
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liberals right now who would just love to this to shut this down on on the basis of any criteria so i
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i worry about governments planning evidence uh but i also worry about the third component of this of
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this bill which is the promise of a cashless society or the threat of a cashless society because here
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here we go transactions above ten thousand dollars will be banned you can put it in the bank
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but don't expect to take it out and use it and i think i heard you say the other day you're being
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interviewed and saying well if if you can say ten thousand you can say five thousand if you can say
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five thousand you can say one thousand and you can take that marker down until you're basically dealing
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with petty cash and i think the government would love to have this digital currency mark carney has been
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arguing for it for most of his professional life as a governor of two banks bank of england bank of
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canada he's advocated at economic summits where he's also talked about the chinese currency replacing the
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us dollar as the global currency of choice but he's talked extensively about digital currency how this
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makes us safer and of course no it doesn't make us safer it makes us more inclined to be abused by
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governments that will then know exactly how i'm spending my money how i'm paying the bills where
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my money is coming from and everything about my personal choices that that in some cases might
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be offensive to people in government and it could be used against me so what do you think about this
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component of the bill well government that knows everything about you is a government that can take
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everything from you and currently we have i think a healthy separation where a certain branch of
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government might know things about you for example if a police officer pulls you over for speeding
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they've got a database there that will indicate uh whether where you live and they look at your
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driver's license and so the policeman will know where you live whether there's an outstanding warrant for
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your arrest whether you've got a criminal record so the police have this information but
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it's the it's the police only and it's not you know the the health ministry or the the transportation
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ministry or the minister of education that has that information and in the same way your your doctor
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you know and and maybe because we have a government controlled health care system maybe the the health
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department will have personal private confidential information about patients but the police can't just
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call up the uh the health ministry and say hey uh you know give us bob's medical history jason kenny tried
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that in alberta by the way that was eventually was was defeated to to give police access to medical records
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so the important thing is that okay fine different government departments for different reasons will
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have information on us i mean the cra the the revenue branch is going to have information on our
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how much we earned and how taxes we've paid and you know charitable giving but it's got to be kept
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separate but now we've got this potential uh you know part part of the the drift the general tendency in
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the last five years with legislation pertaining to the internet is to give government more and more control
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in the name of combating hate which nobody can define because it's entirely subjective
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and uh what ends up happening is when the government says it's banning hate speech they're going to ban
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speech that they hate and so um but getting back to your question uh a government that knows everything
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about you is a government that can take everything from you and so we need to i hope we have a peaceful
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massive uprising uh and people contact their member of parliament to say this c2
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is a dangerous violation of civil liberties and people need to contact their mp even if their mp is uh
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is a member of the government party uh it doesn't matter what party your mp is she or he has to hear
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from constituents that that c2 is very bad i i would have to agree and i would hope the conservatives get a
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little more aggressive in opposing this bill because uh so far i've gotten the sense from the official
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opposition right now they're just marking time until the summer vacation comes around and they've
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finally been raising the issue about the liberals wanting to outlaw gas-powered engines in another
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10 years that's been i think their most successful point in question period but they have avoided talking
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with bill c2 and i think bill c5 which i find uh fascinating this is this of course again ostensibly
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is about eliminating inter-provincial trade barriers and the conservatives love this bill and they feel
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like really can't oppose it too strenuously and will probably be supporting it but one of the liberals own
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members who of course was very close to justin trudeau you know he was in mark carney's first cabinet
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after he was appointed prime minister i'm talking of course of uh nate erskine smith ontario uh member
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of parliament who was a minister and but was dropped by carney in the in the second stage of his uh of his
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government and he made it clear that he was not happy about being bounced from the cabinet and he has been
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a visceral opponent of carney but he has been not afraid to be critical and he says he's not going
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to support bill c5 because the toxic pill in that one of course is that mark carney gets to approve it's
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almost like a per on a personal basis he gets to approve these capital projects that he keeps talking
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about it and the and erskine smith said yesterday and has promised he finds this to be a real
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a contravention of the of the process of approving these sorts of ventures but i think there's also
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and i've talked about this last week with premier daniel smith who was on the show and i said my concern
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about mark carney's one government when he keeps talking about we're gonna have one government dealing
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with trade in this country and we're going to reduce or eliminate all these inter-provincial
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trade bearers my concern is that he's he's trying to worm his way into federal if not control
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but at least federal influence over the provincial autonomy over natural resources now as the premier
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pointed out to me these are rights that are guaranteed in the constitution and the constitution
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would trump any legislation however i wouldn't put it past someone like mark carney to just ignore that
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and say i'm not going to listen to the the supreme court that says hey it's in the constitution the
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province reserves the right to natural resources where they sell them and and what they're going to do
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with these with oil and gas for instance and especially in alberta but do you think there's
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there's this potential for mark carney to try to interfere with that long-standing provincial
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autonomy over over natural resources and and for the federal government to once again as it tried to
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do under pierre trudeau in the 1970s try to try to get its hands on those natural resources well or or
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prevent them from being developed because if you buy into this uh wild theory that mankind controls the
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weather mankind controls climate which is demonstrably false when you look just even at the last 2000
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years we've had significant uh decreases in temperature that increases decreases and there's no correlation
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with with uh people you know driving cars or heating their homes in winter uh and mankind has flourished
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and prospered when uh a thousand years ago the the world's climate was four degrees warmer than what it is
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is today and now we're you know lighting our hair on fire being terrified of a temperature increase of
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of one and a half degrees celsius so we've got we've got a hostility towards resource development um and
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and that's a long-standing problem when it comes to respecting the constitution this is we've had decades
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of of federal government not respecting the constitution especially in health care
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the constitution says that health care is exclusively a provincial jurisdiction and yet we have the
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federal government uh indirectly controlling all of the health care systems in canada by saying to
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the provinces we're not going to fund you unless you comply with our conditions and so you have these
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horribly inefficient and unaccountable government monopoly health care systems functioning in each province
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and tens of thousands of canadians have died on waiting lists but the the important point is that
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the provinces uh under the constitution have the freedom to experiment with their own health care
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policies and potentially if if the constitution is being honored provinces can learn from each other
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and they might see something that works really well in in bc and try to copy it or see something that
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and so we've got that lack of respect for the constitution uh has been uh has been a big problem
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well i would i would suggest it's not new and we should always be vigilant in ensuring that the
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government does not contravene those constant constitutional guarantees although i i really do think
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we're on the precipice of a much more authoritarian federal government than we've ever seen mark carney is
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very good at masquerading as a small c conservative he has literally stolen the talking points of the
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conservative party of canada he has literally stolen a lot of the the campaign rhetoric of pure poly of
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in the conservative party canada but i maintain when mark carney talks about things like safety or safe
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streets or affordable housing he's not talking about the same thing that conservatives are i would i would
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say a safe street for mark carney is a lockdown street where people have curfews and they're not
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allowed to leave their homes that would be a safe street to mark carney affordable housing i don't
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believe he's thinking thinking about the dream of so many canadian families of having a single family
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dwelling of having their own home he would be content to see people living in slums or in government
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style soviet style block housing which is how i like to describe it and i think that's where we're going
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with mark carney's affordable housing but he's very good at pretending he really understands the more
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moderate politicians in this country that he he can he can live with a a conservative interpretation
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of of the laws he can live with a more conservative fiscal policy but i don't think any of this is real i don't
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think any of this is much more than a a charade and as uh as professor jeffrey sachs always likes to say
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it's government shambolic act behavior that this is a sham and that there's nothing really behind it
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except a desire to co-opt his his opponents his political opponents to get them on side and god only
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knows where he goes from there but you know i as i and once again i go back to talking to daniel smith
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last week i said is this a guy we can trust and she says you know we'll certainly work with him but
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no i and she is not somebody we can trust because she frankly described him as a socialist which of
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course if you read mark carney's writings this is a man who says he most admires karl marx and vladimir
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lennon as his political heroes now that should send a chill down the spine of any canadian and i
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don't know how many times i repeated that during the election campaign or others repeated that it's
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in his last book it's he has said it at symposiums however the mainstream media never got down to that
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never questioned that talking point so i would ask you is mark carney somebody canadians can trust
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look i i would answer by saying that that that politicians never this is broader than mark carney
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politicians never take away your rights and freedoms without offering a nice sounding pretext
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and they will violate your freedom of speech in the name of stopping hate and stopping misinformation
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stopping disinformation uh which is you know obviously a huge problem who gets to decide what is
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misinformation who gets to decide what's hate right if if uh they want to ban hate speech but their goal
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is to ban speech that they hate um if they you know they they took away our right our freedom to
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have christmas dinner with our own parents in in 2020 in the name of public health uh all kinds of
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rights and freedoms were violated and governments admitted this in in the court actions that that
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justice center lawyers across canada uh fought against the lockdowns and the vaccine passports
00:33:29.700
and government submitted in court that yes these measures did violate the charter freedoms of
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conscience religion association peaceful assembly uh travel mobility bodily autonomy generally speaking
00:33:42.180
the government submitted that in court but they said it was justified under uh section one of of the
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the charter uh and and historically uh you know we have we've got the uh the communists uh taking
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power in russia which became the soviet union uh and they say well you know to uh to fight against
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the evils of capitalism we've got to shut down your churches or burn them and we've got to send uh huge
00:34:09.140
numbers of people off to siberia and we have to shoot people but it's all in the name of of creating
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the workers paradise uh barely 10 years later you've got adolf hitler in germany pointing to the
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communist atrocities and promising to keep the germans safe from communism and so the politicians are
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whenever they take away rights and freedoms you know it's the surveillance state it's got to be
00:34:32.820
to protect us from crime and money laundering uh you know it's always safety and security is trotted out
00:34:40.420
uh as a pretext and you'll never hear mark carney or any other politicians say they're they're power
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hungry and they just uh enjoy power and they're you know dangerous tyrants and they want to oppress
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the population that's not the kind of language that they use so i'll make that broader point uh you
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know without commenting necessarily about mark carney but politicians never take away your rights and
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freedoms without offering a very nice sounding pretext well that's true i worked for a few years
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on parliament hill and largely for reform canadian alliance conservative party mps but i certainly left
00:35:24.820
there thinking that there's one thing you can say about politicians is that you can always rely on them
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to let you down and they'll do it every time and they're followers they're followers yeah they they
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follow the culture it's up to us it's up to us sorry to interrupt it's up to us to change to change the
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culture like we can't have this victim mentality that oh we're just going to be forever deceived and
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forever lied to and forever tricked if it's impossible for politicians to oppress a well-informed uh citizenry
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of responsible virtuous adults who assume take charge of their own lives assume responsibility
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for their own lives who are well-informed it's impossible for a tyrant to oppress uh a free people
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like it it requires our our buy-in and our cooperation to to have our rights and freedoms taken away from us
00:36:20.500
i guess my final question because i don't think anybody fought quite as hard and long as you did on
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trying to get bill c63 the online harms act stopped or amended changed to some degree and we all breathed
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a sigh of relief when it never got past second reading and it died on the on the legislative
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floor but i said this is not the end i i know very very well what's going to happen and during the
00:36:47.540
campaign mark herney addressed the online harms act by saying great idea it's it's it's all about safety
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folks it's about protecting our children from from pornography from child pornography it's about
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stopping revenge porn and of course if you just point you pointed out and i pointed out at the time
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these are already offensive that are covered by the criminal code so why are we reintroducing them
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obviously it's got nothing to do with protecting children or women or anything else it's all about
00:37:16.100
taking our free speech away censoring us as the liberals have do every every opportunity and this
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this odious bill with with the thought crimes component when people were laughing at us around
00:37:28.900
the world saying how what kind of a country would have a thought crimes company you're locked up in
00:37:32.980
your house because your neighbor suspects you might say something hateful and as you point you point out
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who defines hateful who defines disinformation and it's anything the government hates yeah and that's
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what that's what it comes down to so my question for you john is you think we're i i'm sure you agree
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we're going to see this bill resurface in some form do you think they will push it through the attorney
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general or through heritage as the original bill like five how eight years ago i think they first toyed
00:38:04.580
with this idea but it died once again it died on the legislative table because parliament uh parliament uh
00:38:11.940
ended and elections were called that one died but that at the time if i'm not mistaken was going to be
00:38:19.620
entered as legislation through the heritage minister they changed that name around now but
00:38:26.420
that's the same heritage minister again this time they call him the minister of canadian identity
00:38:32.980
and it's it's it's none other than the former environment and climate change minister who
00:38:40.740
clearly is no friend of free speech so do you think the liberals will try to reintroduce this
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through the ag or through the heritage minister because it might look less dangerous that way
00:38:53.380
i i i have no idea how they're going to do it it's unfortunate that uh mark carney has expressed
00:39:03.540
support for the contents of bill c63 i think the important thing is for again for citizens to contact
00:39:10.260
their mps canadians are very good at complaining to each other you know at the water cooler at the
00:39:15.700
workplace uh family gatherings etc etc canadians are very good at complaining to each other but uh politicians are
00:39:23.060
are followers not leaders and so if uh if politicians sense that something is very unpopular and you
00:39:30.260
see this from time to time there's a proposal put forward and there's such a massive public outcry
00:39:35.780
that the government just drops it uh we saw stephen harper uh a decade ago or so with this uh he had
00:39:44.100
a he had a bill that had some similarities to bill c2 that would give police the power to
00:39:50.980
acquire massive amounts of information about citizens without a search warrant and they dressed it up as
00:39:57.380
uh fighting uh child pornography and the predators and uh the minister famously said either you're with
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us or you're with the child pornographers but the the pushback against it was was so strong that they
00:40:12.580
they dropped that bill if if mps particularly liberal mps uh if they cure from their constituents uh that
00:40:22.500
that this bill is going to violate freedom of speech and it's unacceptable and if people write in and say
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if you vote for this i'm voting against you in the next election um that's the way canadians have to be
00:40:34.020
a lot more involved in the in the democratic process than than what they are now
00:40:42.580
i i i couldn't i couldn't agree more and that's what we need to get canadians mobilized common sense
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canadians whether you're a small c conservative small libertarian if you really don't want the
00:40:52.980
government encroaching any further into our lives than it already has we need to fight back i think these
00:40:58.740
are ominous times we're living in right now uh not just in canada but we're if you see what's
00:41:05.300
happening around the world and what potentially could be a catastrophic war in the middle east
00:41:11.620
these are very ominous times but i i think we have to work start at home and we have to
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be very very vigilant about opposing government overreach from the mark carney government and i think
00:41:22.980
it's very very likely to happen to this government so john carpe justice center for constitutional
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freedoms thank you for the work you do not just on these files that we talked about today but for
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defending a lot of canadians who couldn't defend themselves otherwise against government overreach
00:41:40.740
and against laws that are meant to stymie our free speech our freedom of assembly and our freedom to be
00:41:47.380
canadian which i think we're losing every year so thank you so much for joining me today john and
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hope we we see you back here to do keep discussing these these bills and these these crises that are
00:41:59.220
facing canada well thanks so much for having me on your show david i look forward to the next time
00:42:12.260
and that of course was john carpe and always a pleasure to have john on the show
00:42:16.820
and we will have him back on again but we are facing a number of crises in this country right
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now we have to be vigilant we have to keep fighting for freedom if we if we stop fighting for freedom
00:42:28.980
who is going to do it for us famous line from that my favorite film casablanca you know victor laszlo was
00:42:37.380
asked why do you keep fighting and he responds you might as well ask why do we keep breathing if we stop
00:42:45.140
breathing we'll die if we stop fighting the world will die or in our case canada will die so that's why
00:42:51.700
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bye for now god bless canada god bless you and this has been david creighton broadcasting live from ottawa