Stand on Guard with David Krayden - EXPOSED： Carney's Phony Pipeline Story

00:00:00.000 police officers charging into your home as you're having a bath it was very very frightening i

00:00:06.100 probably like i've had nightmares and everything about it and like i'm i've got i've got cameras

00:00:11.320 on my house and stuff i'll keep them on and make sure the doors are always locked now because it's

00:00:14.800 not even the public that anyone needs to be scared of these days it's it's the police

00:00:18.500 welcome back to another episode of stand on guard and of course we'll be watching that interview

00:00:25.840 again later in the show when i come back i'll let you know what else is happening

00:00:30.940 the prime minister lied and his minions continue to your home is your castle we're calling on the

00:00:44.700 government to introduce and immediately pass the stand on guard law

00:00:49.540 but we also need to resolve to resist

00:00:55.100 we'll do it live okay no we'll do it live i can i'll write it and we'll do it live

00:01:07.860 welcome back to another episode of stand on guard i'm your host david kraidman i'm broadcasting to

00:01:17.200 you today live from very snowy ottawa hope you're having a good december christmas coming

00:01:24.700 the goose is getting fat please put a penny in this old guy's hat and we'll be advertising the

00:01:33.180 merchandise later i hope we have some great christmas gifts for you there so what are we

00:01:39.000 talking about today well there's a great drama going on two-fold drama going on in the house

00:01:45.340 of commons today well let's say the parliament buildings because of course there's a vote today

00:01:51.380 on a conservative motion to support a pipeline through alberta to the west coast to the pacific

00:02:00.180 ocean through british columbia this of course is part of the memorandum of understanding between

00:02:07.080 prime minister mark carney and alberta premier daniel smith which both of them have been crowing

00:02:13.700 about for the last two weeks this was absolutely seminal this was monumental this was ground

00:02:21.700 breaking earth shattering and pure poly of has never bought it he never really has bought the

00:02:30.600 idea that mark carney wants a pipeline built whether it's fully funded by the private sector

00:02:37.580 or not because every time a conservative asks a question about the pipeline

00:02:44.960 mark carney is very loathe to get up and support it he usually has his environment minister

00:02:51.560 stand up or his natural resources minister stand up and talk about how it's going to be great for

00:02:57.340 climate change so i think this is a brilliant move by pure poly to demand the liberals put their policy

00:03:09.820 where their mouth is their big mouth is and we'll see what happens the other drama unfolding of course

00:03:15.740 is bill c9 last i heard it's on again in committee and as i said at the very beginning you saw that

00:03:24.000 little clip from piers morgan uncensored i think it's more like piers morgan self-centered at times

00:03:29.860 but that we're going to show you that again today by popular demand because people are saying i can't

00:03:35.360 believe this is happening in uk and if bills like c9 and the resuscitated online harms act which i keep

00:03:42.320 saying is probably going to be called the online safety act bills like that are going to strangle

00:03:47.760 freedom of speech in canada and if we can get this c9 stopped and if we can continue to build a

00:03:57.740 coalition between those on the right and the left conservatives liberals socialists if we have to

00:04:03.580 whatever whoever really values free speech get on board and fight get on board and fight and join the

00:04:12.040 petition and we'll have more about that later because we've got to stop c9 we stop c9 we got a better

00:04:18.860 chance of never seeing a revived online harms act that's that's exactly where we are so we'll be

00:04:28.520 discussing c9 and a little little later in the show and i got it i've got a clip for you from katie

00:04:35.220 sydney who of course is continuing to fight for justice for what happened on her farm and

00:04:44.200 hope you enjoy that and will also as i said be showing you this

00:04:51.540 10 minute now but a nine minute clip with piers morgan and the woman in the uk who was arrested by

00:04:59.720 11 cops for a private text message it's incredible so without further ado here's what happened

00:05:06.720 if they want to combat their own cost of liberating crisis the liberals would focus on approving

00:05:13.780 pipelines that would sell more oil boost our canadian dollars so canadian's going to buy affordable food

00:05:20.180 and homes in fact there was such a pipeline the northern gateway liberals killed it in a

00:05:25.380 2016 cabinet decision a decision the prime minister supported they further blocked it with a liberal

00:05:31.940 ban on tanker traffic off the northwest bc coast the prime minister claims to have changed his mind

00:05:38.340 in a recent mou so will he been able to change the minds of fellow liberals and vote for his own mou

00:05:44.400 and allow a pipeline to the pacific the honorable minister of natural resources mr speaker it's a sad day

00:05:52.640 because the conservatives are divided the conservative premiers across this country

00:05:57.660 support this mou in its entirety the leader of the opposition is seeking to divide this country

00:06:05.940 and we can see through that cynical tactic the mou is about building a strong country it's about

00:06:12.700 doing it in an environmentally responsible way in partnership with indigenous peoples it would be

00:06:18.120 great if the opposition joined all the other conservatives and all of us in building this

00:06:23.620 country strong the honorable leader of the opposition that's exactly what we're trying to do in the spirit

00:06:32.400 of christmas i decided to take a great act of generosity and lift the words right out of the prime

00:06:40.440 minister's mou in order to support a pipeline to the pacific and a repeal or an overriding of the liberal

00:06:49.900 tanker ban now of course it would mean liberals would have to admit they were wrong admit they were

00:06:55.820 wrong to block that pipeline they were wrong about the tanker ban will in the spirit of christmas

00:07:01.820 liberals admit they were wrong vote for their own wording approve a pipeline and get rid of the tanker ban

00:07:07.440 the honorable minister of natalie weasley mr speaker the spirit of christmas i'd invite the leader of

00:07:14.440 the opposition not to cherry pick parts of the mou but to support the entire mou which is what all of

00:07:22.940 the conservative premiers across this country are doing which is what this side is doing it's how we

00:07:28.040 will build some stop being cynical and build the build this country with us the honorable leader of the

00:07:34.780 opposition i think the only division here is that the prime minister is divided against himself

00:07:42.040 the prime minister opposed the pipeline to the pacific now he claims he supports it he supported

00:07:50.420 the tanker ban now he claims he opposed it mr speaker this is the prime minister who said he

00:07:55.980 wanted to keep half of our oil in the ground and now he changes it pretends to have changed his mind

00:08:01.340 he signed an mou he says one thing in bc the opposite in alberta and here in the house of

00:08:08.000 commons he hides under his desk why don't the prime minister stand up take a position and announce that

00:08:13.780 he's voting in favor of his mou language to build a pipeline well as it turned out and we'll watch a bit

00:08:27.500 of this interview carny government to vote against the conservative motion on pipeline 7 well well well

00:08:32.880 what a surprise and of course they're saying it's got nothing to do with their support for a pipeline

00:08:39.260 there just wasn't in enough in that motion about climate change and about the carbon the industrial

00:08:49.540 carbon tax and about alberta adhering to all of this so but this is all a cop-out this is tremendous

00:08:58.000 cop-out from the carney government i think it is highly indicative of how mark carney really feels

00:09:05.440 about this let's watch a bit of this interview with andrew sheer conservative house leader saskatchewan

00:09:12.880 in the with bassy capellis and i i realize bassy has a host of publicists out there unofficial or

00:09:21.400 unpaid i hope they're unpaid publicists who just think every time she interviews anybody she's doing

00:09:27.140 a masterful job i think she misses the point here actually with this interview with andrew sheer

00:09:33.620 because she keeps saying the mou is highly specific

00:09:37.680 and i think sheer actually proves her wrong again pleasure in welcoming you back to the studio um

00:09:45.800 when premier danielle smith signed this mou with the prime minister she said quote it's a great day

00:09:50.780 for alberta and canada are you saying the premier's wrong well we just don't believe that uh provincial

00:09:56.140 government should have to sign on to something like an increase in the carbon tax a conservative

00:09:59.760 government would not impose that type of condition on uh on a province uh we're pro-energy we we we don't

00:10:06.000 believe that uh that the government should make it harder to get things built we think the government

00:10:10.160 should make it easier to get things built set the rules and make it apply to everybody so what

00:10:13.840 we're saying is that two things one there's a there are conditions in this bill that aren't

00:10:18.320 necessary for the construction of a pipeline and the second thing is we don't believe mark

00:10:23.280 currently is actually serious about getting it done because he's got this very complex and

00:10:26.800 complicated mou with lots of conditions and then he immediately goes out and says these are

00:10:31.440 necessary but not sufficient meaning that even if the government of alberta clears all these

00:10:35.920 hoops and hurdles that he still might say no he said the british columbia premier gets a veto

00:10:40.640 and uh and now we're hearing uh rumors today that they're going to vote against their own mou

00:10:45.200 tomorrow in a conservative motion so that's why we're saying that this mou is is uh is not great

00:10:52.240 we believe that the federal government should be partners in prosperity helping provinces get to yes

00:10:56.720 it's not saying one thing in alberta something completely different in ottawa a couple of different

00:11:00.160 things so i didn't hear uh unequivocally that bc from the prime minister has a veto he's certainly

00:11:05.760 talked about bc needing to agree but i've asked his ministers on multiple occasions because of what

00:11:10.640 your party has brought up does that mean that there is effectively not even constitutional but

00:11:14.880 effectively a veto and everyone i have asked has said no that's not the case second of all what you

00:11:19.680 what your party seems to be inferring by putting this motion forward is that there is ambiguity right

00:11:24.240 a lot of ambiguity within the mou again i'll put to you the premier doesn't seem to indicate at any

00:11:29.200 juncture that that's the case and even when you read through the text like i would have guessed also that

00:11:33.360 it would be ambiguous to allow for multiple different possibilities but it is incredibly

00:11:38.080 specific construction of one or more private sector constructed and financed pipelines with

00:11:42.240 the route that increases export access to asian markets as a priority it is agreed this pipeline

00:11:46.640 would be in addition to the expansion of the tmx pipeline like that is not ambiguous well you are

00:11:51.920 right about the the uh deliberately misleading canadians on on on terms and you you talked about the veto

00:11:58.720 mark carney is getting famous for this by the way saying something and then contradicting himself in

00:12:03.520 the next sentence so when you say that a premier has to agree for it to proceed that's a veto i mean

00:12:09.520 you can say you can call it something else you can say uh you're trying to dance around the language but

00:12:14.000 if at the end of the day david abe refuses to approve refuses to sign off mark carney is saying that

00:12:19.440 his approval is necessary so if if that in fact blocks the the the the pipeline from going ahead then

00:12:26.000 he's effectively got a veto i don't think canadians want to play semantics about

00:12:29.840 word definition i mean i i love going into word origins and things like that but uh canadians

00:12:34.160 want clarity they want certainty and if you look at the entire mou there's a whole lot of conditions

00:12:39.520 on there that conservatives would never impose on the people of alberta or the government of alberta

00:12:43.440 and he immediately comes to ottawa and says even i think andrew shear is making a very good point

00:12:49.440 here because this is a question of having it both ways if you say bc must agree well you might not

00:13:00.560 want to call that a veto maybe it's not a veto in law but it effectively amounts to a veto

00:13:11.040 so they want it both ways no bc doesn't have a veto yes bc must agree to the project

00:13:16.400 because this is the sort of double talk the carney government is so adept if even if the government

00:13:23.840 does all this even if the government alberta does all this he says it's not sufficient he might it

00:13:28.960 still might not go ahead and then we hear you know liberal mp saying that it'll never get built so

00:13:35.520 what our motion is attempting to do tomorrow is to provide that clarity give liberals an opportunity

00:13:40.080 to vote for their own mou we've lifted language right from the mou if they vote in favor then that

00:13:45.440 would send a signal that uh that they're at least going to back up uh what they sign on to if they

00:13:50.560 vote against it or if half their caucus votes against it it's going to be sending a very

00:13:53.600 different message to canadians and what we're trying to show canadians is that mark carney has

00:13:57.120 spent his entire life fighting against energy development he wrote a book called values where

00:14:01.280 he defined himself as a human being and talked about you know the need for higher carbon taxes and

00:14:07.040 leaving up to 50 of canada's natural resources in the ground so he's trying to reinvent himself and

00:14:13.440 and turn him into something that he just has never been and our the motion tomorrow is an attempt to

00:14:18.240 provide canadians clarity about who mark carney really is but is it an attempt to be political

00:14:23.680 because it is an issue that you know that their party doesn't fully agree on and to exacerbate

00:14:28.640 those differences when ultimately the prime minister did sign this mou right like i take your point on

00:14:33.920 things he said in the past i certainly have questioned him about that but he has gone further than i can

00:14:38.800 remember any federal level going in putting down in paper in very explicit and specific terms

00:14:44.320 exactly what this pipeline would look like where it would go how much extra oil beyond what exists

00:14:49.280 right now in the capacity to export uh it would entail like again this is not ambiguous he is signing

00:14:55.120 his name to it well if you look at everything that's happened since the mou was signed there's a

00:15:00.320 lot of ambiguity and uh if mark carney had to come out sign this mou and said i look forward to the

00:15:05.200 day shovels in the ground and i support pipelines he still hasn't even said that mark carney still

00:15:09.040 hasn't even said that he he would like to see this proceed he just says that these are conditions

00:15:13.200 that are necessary but not sufficient that's a very clever liberal politician phrase to basically

00:15:19.360 say two things at the same time that uh it might happen if you do this but it might not happen even

00:15:24.240 if you do all that it's just incredibly confusing if the liberals had to come out of this mou

00:15:28.320 signing with clarity with full-throated support for the men and women who work in canada's

00:15:34.000 energy sector excited about the uh the prospects about opening up asian markets to canadian energy

00:15:39.920 uh we'd probably be debating a different motion tomorrow but the fact that you've got liberal

00:15:43.520 ministers saying something completely different than what the prime minister said when he was in

00:15:46.800 alberta the fact that doesn't your caucus not agree on everything like isn't that a part of a

00:15:51.600 democracy like there's not not everyone is going to feel the exact same way ultimately it's the

00:15:54.960 person in power is going to decide the direction of the party in the government but even mark carney

00:15:58.480 and cabinet can't even provide that assurance to canadians that if the government of alberta

00:16:02.960 succeeds in meeting all the clearing all these new hoops and hurdles and all this new uh the new

00:16:07.200 conditions that they've imposed they still can't even clearly say whether or not a pipeline will

00:16:11.520 actually get that's what the mou does say yes but but they've they've contradicted themselves

00:16:14.960 immediately afterwards that's the point they they haven't been able to clearly even stand behind

00:16:18.960 their own mou the ink wasn't even it still isn't dry yet and you've got senior liberals talking it down

00:16:25.120 senior liberals saying it'll never get built so this is an opportunity for for parliament and for the

00:16:29.840 house of commons for every mp to clearly stake out where they are don davies and the ndp very clear

00:16:34.560 they're against pipelines conservatives very clear we support our energy sector and want to see canada

00:16:38.720 develop it more and get off of the dependence of the us market mark carney the liberals try to say

00:16:43.440 two things at the same time one thing in alberta something completely different ottawa we just want

00:16:47.120 some clarity so that canadians can hold this government to account there's enough clear

00:16:50.720 i think andrew cheer stated the case excellently in that interview and i i don't think bass is

00:17:00.400 getting the point this is clearly they're they're playing both sides of the street liberals love to do

00:17:06.240 that before we get back to the farm here i want to show you this is very very disturbing and this is

00:17:15.360 what happens when relations between canada and the u.s deteriorate to the extent that they have

00:17:24.400 and donald trump is now talking for on a for a tariff on potash and any kind of food war is bad for

00:17:35.600 not just business but it's bad for the national health and and the consequences can be far-reaching let's

00:17:42.800 listen thank you so you you talked about the profitability issue the machinery playing a

00:17:48.320 role in that fertilizer plays another role now a lot of that way i understand it it comes in from

00:17:54.160 canada different countries like that what are we doing to bolster domestic fertilizer production to

00:17:58.720 help make that more affordable and then i think that will transition one of the things a lot of it does

00:18:03.920 come in from canada and so we'll end up putting very severe tariffs on that if we have to

00:18:09.920 uh because uh that's the way you want to bolster here and we can do it here we we can all do that

00:18:16.160 here but i would say what you do you put very severe tariffs on from coming into other countries

00:18:22.240 you'll be making your own fertilizer in fact secretary bergam

00:18:28.640 yeah very very dangerous president even joe biden he was president didn't start putting tariffs even on

00:18:35.760 russian fertilizer at the height of the acrimony over the war in ukraine even joe biden didn't put

00:18:42.640 tariffs on fertilizer coming from russia and never considered it for canada putting a tariff on something

00:18:50.080 doesn't automatically make everything better does the united states even have sufficient potash reserves

00:18:57.280 for the agricultural sector remember the united states is still number one in agriculture

00:19:04.160 and when we had retired

00:19:09.680 colonel uh on on recently to talk about sorry name we he talked about the fact the united states is number

00:19:19.360 one in two things now it's number one in agriculture number one in armament sales

00:19:26.800 and if you erode either of those it gets very upset so i don't i'm not sure

00:19:30.880 that the united states is even able to furnish adequate potash or fertilizer for the agriculture

00:19:42.720 sector which is uh which is massive massive huge long growing season in the united states and

00:19:50.960 that's that's very important now before we get to the rest of the news today i want to show you

00:20:00.880 uh

00:20:23.680 And let's have a look at

00:20:50.100 some of the stickers that we've been

00:20:53.600 flogging lately here.

00:20:55.120 We just love this stuff here.

00:20:57.800 This is

00:20:58.200 very, very proud of these.

00:21:01.660 I think there's something here

00:21:03.180 with just about everybody.

00:21:06.840 And Christmas is coming.

00:21:08.140 Have a look at the store.

00:21:09.960 You know, we have done so much

00:21:11.820 to enhance

00:21:14.420 and increase

00:21:16.060 the choices

00:21:17.340 at this store.

00:21:20.100 And I think we're quite proud of that.

00:21:22.720 Quite proud of that indeed.

00:21:24.520 And encourage you all

00:21:26.440 to have a look.

00:21:27.000 I guess I've got a few more to show you here.

00:21:32.200 Yeah.

00:21:32.840 And here we are with the

00:21:34.460 PsyOps.

00:21:36.000 Yeah, big brother.

00:21:37.520 Now there is a

00:21:38.200 perfect Christmas present

00:21:40.100 for anyone.

00:21:42.680 Yeah, I'm going to show you

00:21:47.080 one more here.

00:21:47.680 And of course,

00:22:05.980 we encourage you

00:22:07.120 to get an ostrich hoodie.

00:22:09.740 In fact, I'm going to be wearing that

00:22:11.220 for an interview this afternoon.

00:22:13.100 Katie Psypne

00:22:16.240 of Universal Ostrich

00:22:17.840 will be joining

00:22:18.720 this afternoon.

00:22:19.560 I think we'll probably

00:22:20.500 record that interview

00:22:21.740 for broadcast tomorrow.

00:22:24.820 But of course,

00:22:25.700 spoke to Katie yesterday

00:22:27.220 and

00:22:27.920 she put out a

00:22:29.320 brief

00:22:30.040 message

00:22:31.120 yesterday

00:22:31.400 on Facebook.

00:22:31.860 But it's quite

00:22:32.520 interesting

00:22:33.380 because

00:22:35.020 she talks about

00:22:37.060 the 84

00:22:37.920 missing

00:22:39.180 ostriches.

00:22:40.280 So what does she mean?

00:22:41.720 Well, we're going to

00:22:42.280 find out

00:22:44.040 more about it

00:22:45.060 when we talk to her

00:22:45.700 this afternoon.

00:22:46.720 But here's what she had to say

00:22:47.720 yesterday about this.

00:22:49.960 Hi, everyone.

00:22:51.040 Katie with Universal

00:22:51.780 Ostrich Farms.

00:22:53.520 It's been a weekend.

00:22:55.220 I tried to spend

00:22:56.320 some time with my kids.

00:22:57.440 It was my niece's birthday.

00:22:59.460 And

00:22:59.900 in all of that,

00:23:01.700 with all the joy

00:23:02.820 that I felt,

00:23:04.160 I've had a really hard time.

00:23:07.700 And

00:23:08.140 I mean,

00:23:09.000 it's to be expected.

00:23:10.960 My mom

00:23:11.860 phoned me in tears.

00:23:14.440 She's still very broken

00:23:15.820 and she's hurting,

00:23:16.940 of course.

00:23:18.000 We're very upset.

00:23:19.700 We're very on point

00:23:20.760 to be fighting for justice

00:23:21.940 for every one of those

00:23:23.200 birds that died.

00:23:24.700 A malicious

00:23:25.960 and evil death.

00:23:27.700 But

00:23:27.940 the pain is real

00:23:29.680 and we have to identify

00:23:30.760 with that.

00:23:32.100 I got some

00:23:33.060 a phone call

00:23:33.980 from a supporter today

00:23:35.060 and

00:23:36.180 the healing

00:23:37.560 that has to happen here

00:23:38.920 for everybody

00:23:39.780 there is so much

00:23:41.460 healing

00:23:41.860 that has to happen.

00:23:43.500 But we have to remember

00:23:44.620 that we need to stay

00:23:45.600 there for each other.

00:23:47.580 And we have to remind

00:23:48.840 each other

00:23:49.280 that we're not alone.

00:23:50.940 Now

00:23:51.300 I did make

00:23:52.660 a little post.

00:23:54.640 It's been really hard

00:23:55.840 to stay focused.

00:23:56.860 I've had some anxiety

00:23:58.820 to do with what's happened

00:24:00.500 as I'm sure

00:24:01.240 a lot of people

00:24:01.860 around the world

00:24:02.460 I know that are

00:24:03.460 and are suffering

00:24:04.600 with just sleeping

00:24:06.600 at night.

00:24:07.800 It was only 32 days ago

00:24:10.140 that this happened.

00:24:12.320 It's been 11 months,

00:24:13.860 almost 10 months

00:24:14.740 for our family

00:24:15.540 along a ride

00:24:17.180 of terrorism

00:24:17.800 by the Canadian government,

00:24:19.440 Canadian Food Inspection Agency.

00:24:20.740 But it is

00:24:23.240 that it's been

00:24:23.960 32 days

00:24:24.740 since almost

00:24:25.300 a thousand gunshots

00:24:26.460 too many

00:24:27.160 shattered the peace

00:24:28.940 of our home

00:24:29.580 and CFIA

00:24:30.300 waged war

00:24:31.360 on our innocent animals

00:24:32.800 and brought their weapons

00:24:33.720 to our land.

00:24:36.540 Today I need

00:24:37.420 to share something

00:24:38.220 that's shaken us

00:24:39.120 even deeper

00:24:39.800 which a lot of you

00:24:42.140 I think may have

00:24:42.900 already heard.

00:24:43.700 I know Luca put it out.

00:24:45.160 A woman at the

00:24:45.960 Vancouver landfill

00:24:46.900 who was part

00:24:48.840 of receiving

00:24:49.480 the ostriches

00:24:50.360 at the landfill

00:24:50.980 said that they

00:24:52.300 needed to do a count.

00:24:53.660 So they had to

00:24:54.300 roughly count

00:24:54.940 as the animals

00:24:55.440 are coming in

00:24:56.160 and when they

00:24:56.920 were being

00:24:57.440 dumped

00:24:58.900 all of that

00:25:00.520 precious life

00:25:01.260 of 35 years

00:25:02.220 that they could

00:25:03.820 only do a count

00:25:05.040 of roughly

00:25:05.460 about 230.

00:25:07.860 So we're asking

00:25:09.440 the question

00:25:10.500 I mean every

00:25:12.020 Canadian should be

00:25:12.860 determined

00:25:13.260 to get the answer

00:25:14.300 to and that's

00:25:15.160 where's the missing

00:25:15.880 84?

00:25:17.900 Where did they go

00:25:19.080 and why were

00:25:21.420 they not accounted

00:25:22.120 for?

00:25:23.980 So and why

00:25:24.940 two weeks after

00:25:25.760 CFIA worked

00:25:26.680 through the night

00:25:27.360 which we all know

00:25:28.300 they were working

00:25:28.840 through the middle

00:25:29.440 of night

00:25:29.880 was the number

00:25:31.280 79 spray painted

00:25:32.800 on the inside

00:25:33.480 of our kill pen

00:25:34.240 that landed

00:25:35.200 that got built

00:25:36.260 on our farm.

00:25:37.660 A kill pen

00:25:38.580 that should have

00:25:39.060 never existed

00:25:39.780 and where CFIA

00:25:41.900 was supposed to

00:25:42.700 maintain custody

00:25:43.760 of our animals

00:25:44.440 and they weren't

00:25:44.880 to do anything else.

00:25:46.900 I have so many

00:25:49.220 notes

00:25:49.580 so because

00:25:53.020 where we stand

00:25:55.940 that interim

00:25:57.580 state that

00:25:58.160 Supreme Court

00:25:58.880 granted

00:25:59.320 was an interim

00:26:02.040 state order

00:26:03.600 that bought

00:26:04.040 CFIA time

00:26:05.120 to prepare

00:26:05.740 it time to

00:26:08.000 prepare the

00:26:08.480 kill pen

00:26:09.140 behind our

00:26:09.960 you know right

00:26:10.500 behind everybody's

00:26:11.600 backs

00:26:12.000 they're not

00:26:13.600 feeding our

00:26:14.400 animals

00:26:14.820 they weren't

00:26:15.380 watering them

00:26:16.040 properly

00:26:16.580 there was

00:26:17.840 animal cruelty

00:26:18.980 happening in front

00:26:19.820 of all of our

00:26:20.400 eyes

00:26:20.760 and that is what

00:26:22.240 that interim

00:26:22.960 state order

00:26:23.780 really thought

00:26:25.220 was them time

00:26:26.560 so they had

00:26:28.020 their answer

00:26:28.680 long before

00:26:29.600 the world did

00:26:30.900 and we do know

00:26:31.920 that the

00:26:32.300 Supreme Court

00:26:33.380 of Canada

00:26:33.720 gave them

00:26:34.320 time to prepare

00:26:36.000 and the minute

00:26:37.680 they were ready

00:26:38.480 they started

00:26:39.140 and not

00:26:40.240 with compassion

00:26:41.040 not with

00:26:42.520 science

00:26:42.940 and not

00:26:43.280 with empathy

00:26:43.940 no love

00:26:44.840 and no

00:26:46.020 respect

00:26:47.280 for the

00:26:48.040 living souls

00:26:48.920 that those

00:26:49.260 animals were

00:26:49.920 but with the

00:26:50.840 barbaric cruelty

00:26:51.760 shooting our

00:26:52.960 healthy terrified

00:26:53.960 animals

00:26:54.800 that were running

00:26:55.700 for their lives

00:26:56.620 birds who had

00:26:58.200 grown up together

00:26:58.760 for 35 years

00:27:00.320 protecting one

00:27:02.100 another

00:27:02.380 and trusting

00:27:02.940 humans

00:27:03.600 and trusting

00:27:05.660 us that we

00:27:06.380 would be able

00:27:06.820 to save them

00:27:07.600 from any

00:27:08.380 any kind

00:27:09.400 of barbaric

00:27:10.480 action

00:27:10.980 like this

00:27:11.680 and when

00:27:14.240 they died

00:27:14.880 at the hands

00:27:16.240 of the very

00:27:17.140 species that

00:27:18.040 we got

00:27:19.840 them to

00:27:20.220 trust

00:27:20.600 every day

00:27:23.200 we wake up

00:27:24.040 we look at

00:27:24.520 the empty

00:27:24.880 pens when

00:27:25.560 we make

00:27:26.460 our way down

00:27:26.920 to the end

00:27:27.260 of the lane

00:27:27.640 when we're

00:27:28.240 there

00:27:28.580 my mom

00:27:29.900 doesn't leave

00:27:30.680 it's safer

00:27:32.800 and more

00:27:33.320 comfortable

00:27:33.720 for her

00:27:34.340 at home

00:27:34.900 right now

00:27:35.440 the mess

00:27:38.160 that CFIA

00:27:38.800 left behind

00:27:39.660 that hay

00:27:40.360 pen

00:27:40.800 the straw

00:27:42.800 the bedding

00:27:43.460 that's everywhere

00:27:44.280 blown up

00:27:45.640 bales

00:27:46.260 and they cut

00:27:47.440 all the strings

00:27:48.080 on the full

00:27:48.660 ones just so

00:27:49.400 we can't even

00:27:49.880 move them

00:27:50.240 and lift them

00:27:50.860 and then I

00:27:52.400 think all

00:27:53.240 this destruction

00:27:53.860 that they were

00:27:54.340 allowed to walk

00:27:55.080 away from

00:27:55.520 under the

00:27:55.920 RCMP

00:27:56.500 protection

00:27:57.900 and I think

00:27:59.280 that's also

00:27:59.940 one of the

00:28:00.760 hardest things

00:28:01.720 for the human

00:28:02.380 mind to

00:28:02.920 grasp

00:28:03.280 how was

00:28:04.560 this allowed

00:28:05.420 how did

00:28:07.400 this happen

00:28:07.960 and is this

00:28:08.520 really Canada

00:28:09.300 and we'll

00:28:11.760 hear more

00:28:12.260 about this

00:28:13.260 tomorrow

00:28:14.040 and I

00:28:14.540 is

00:28:15.760 that's the

00:28:16.800 question

00:28:17.280 how much

00:28:19.440 of Canada

00:28:20.100 is still

00:28:21.200 here

00:28:21.840 and arguably

00:28:23.300 there's not

00:28:23.900 much left

00:28:24.480 so I wanted

00:28:25.620 to have a look

00:28:26.260 at some of

00:28:26.620 the stories

00:28:27.120 here

00:28:27.460 on

00:28:29.820 the X

00:28:35.640 site here

00:28:36.140 always

00:28:37.700 something

00:28:38.020 here

00:28:38.380 and of

00:28:41.600 course

00:28:41.840 yes

00:28:42.260 this is

00:28:46.380 incredible

00:28:46.880 why is

00:28:48.100 the

00:28:48.420 New York

00:28:51.140 Times

00:28:51.680 is actually

00:28:52.680 now reporting

00:28:54.080 that Zelensky

00:28:55.780 Ukrainian

00:28:57.380 president

00:28:58.560 Volomar

00:28:59.360 Deer

00:28:59.700 Zelensky

00:29:00.900 is fully

00:29:03.000 corrupt

00:29:03.940 and has

00:29:04.560 been salting

00:29:05.320 away

00:29:05.800 money

00:29:06.460 for years

00:29:07.520 now why

00:29:09.480 is the question

00:29:10.620 I ask it

00:29:11.180 why is

00:29:11.680 Anita

00:29:12.060 Anand

00:29:12.740 and Mark

00:29:16.360 Carney

00:29:16.680 sending

00:29:17.240 and bragging

00:29:18.240 about Canadian

00:29:19.060 taxpayer money

00:29:20.040 being sent

00:29:20.740 to Zelensky

00:29:22.100 when the

00:29:22.720 New York

00:29:23.040 Times

00:29:23.320 and their

00:29:23.540 Post

00:29:23.880 have both

00:29:24.440 reported

00:29:24.900 the excessive

00:29:25.760 corruption

00:29:26.380 which the

00:29:26.860 Ukraine

00:29:27.260 regime

00:29:27.760 is now

00:29:29.420 being charged

00:29:29.940 with

00:29:30.220 so

00:29:33.780 here's

00:29:35.400 what's

00:29:35.560 happening

00:29:35.840 with Bill

00:29:36.180 C9

00:29:36.600 though

00:29:36.840 you all

00:29:39.320 know

00:29:39.700 Sean

00:29:40.360 Frazier

00:29:41.140 that

00:29:41.700 incompetent

00:29:43.180 cabinet

00:29:44.560 minister

00:29:45.120 who utterly

00:29:46.140 failed

00:29:46.940 in other

00:29:48.160 portfolios

00:29:49.180 including housing

00:29:50.160 and immigration

00:29:51.040 now he's

00:29:52.520 failing as

00:29:53.300 the attorney

00:29:53.760 general

00:29:54.300 seems like

00:29:57.280 the deal

00:29:58.400 he brokered

00:29:59.420 with the

00:30:00.040 Bloc

00:30:00.280 Quebe

00:30:00.480 to take

00:30:01.180 the religious

00:30:01.800 exemption

00:30:02.440 out of

00:30:04.280 so-called

00:30:04.940 hate speech

00:30:05.780 was not

00:30:08.980 approved by

00:30:09.880 the prime

00:30:11.060 minister

00:30:11.580 in fact

00:30:12.480 he never

00:30:12.780 even mentioned

00:30:13.440 it

00:30:13.680 so there's

00:30:15.120 a bit

00:30:15.320 of a

00:30:15.640 stall

00:30:16.120 tactic

00:30:16.540 going on

00:30:17.040 here right

00:30:17.420 now

00:30:17.780 because

00:30:18.300 the committee

00:30:18.760 was cancelled

00:30:19.620 once

00:30:19.960 what we're

00:30:20.820 hearing

00:30:21.280 this morning

00:30:22.220 is the

00:30:23.880 committee

00:30:24.200 is on

00:30:24.880 again

00:30:25.360 today

00:30:26.000 justice

00:30:27.700 committee

00:30:28.260 that has

00:30:29.380 been

00:30:29.640 examining

00:30:30.660 this bill

00:30:31.560 but not

00:30:31.940 too closely

00:30:32.560 not too

00:30:33.860 many witnesses

00:30:34.440 opposed to

00:30:35.240 it

00:30:35.440 so

00:30:39.520 we encourage

00:30:41.320 you

00:30:41.600 to get

00:30:42.700 the word

00:30:43.600 out

00:30:44.080 that this

00:30:45.240 is

00:30:45.680 very

00:30:46.320 very

00:30:47.540 dangerous

00:30:48.360 and we

00:30:49.860 need

00:30:50.260 to keep

00:30:51.240 fighting

00:30:51.740 this bill

00:30:52.620 and here's

00:30:53.120 Anita

00:30:53.360 Annette

00:30:53.800 Canada

00:30:55.200 continues to

00:30:56.100 support

00:30:56.500 Ukraine

00:30:57.060 no matter

00:30:59.520 how bad

00:31:00.180 Zelensky is

00:31:01.100 I love

00:31:04.520 this post

00:31:05.660 from Andrew

00:31:06.100 Lawton

00:31:06.600 the Ontario

00:31:07.700 Conservative

00:31:08.240 MP who

00:31:08.840 really led

00:31:10.280 the charge

00:31:10.960 in the

00:31:11.360 House of

00:31:11.720 Commons

00:31:11.940 against

00:31:12.380 Bill C-9

00:31:13.120 he says

00:31:13.440 I see

00:31:13.720 Sean

00:31:13.980 Fraser

00:31:14.280 bringing

00:31:14.740 to his

00:31:15.540 work

00:31:15.840 as

00:31:16.020 Minister

00:31:16.280 of

00:31:16.440 Justice

00:31:16.700 the same

00:31:17.220 level

00:31:17.540 of

00:31:17.720 excellence

00:31:18.160 he brought

00:31:19.200 to

00:31:19.400 immigration

00:31:19.980 and

00:31:20.780 housing

00:31:21.140 that's

00:31:24.580 wonderful

00:31:24.960 there are

00:31:30.220 a lot

00:31:30.620 of people

00:31:31.020 now

00:31:31.340 realizing

00:31:32.140 how

00:31:32.420 dangerous

00:31:33.220 this

00:31:33.960 bill

00:31:34.220 is

00:31:34.640 very

00:31:37.500 very

00:31:38.260 dangerous

00:31:38.900 now

00:31:47.300 this

00:31:47.500 is

00:31:47.940 fascinating

00:31:48.780 here

00:31:49.280 let's

00:31:50.960 watch

00:31:51.240 this

00:31:51.600 we

00:31:55.140 we

00:31:56.660 we

00:31:57.260 we

00:32:02.600 we

00:32:03.600 we

00:32:16.160 we

00:32:16.840 we

00:32:17.760 we

00:32:19.720 we

00:32:20.720 we

00:32:21.520 think think before you share well that means self-censorship that's what that is

00:32:35.600 and you know this is clearly a psyop directed at every one of us and that's

00:32:46.800 you know that is exactly what this is about so these are not easy times for the carney government

00:32:56.800 but mark carney really doesn't seem to care remember who cares who cares and

00:33:05.440 so i want to applaud the good work of people like andrew lawton uh

00:33:09.440 michelle rempel garner and dr leslin lewis who has also done some great work exposing

00:33:21.440 the potential well and the obvious hazards of mark carney's censorship and surveillance bills

00:33:29.680 i want to get to

00:33:37.120 this video again because if you missed it yesterday you will not believe what's going on here

00:33:45.840 because this is absolutely frightening absolutely frightening we're gonna we're gonna put that on

00:33:52.960 right now thank you again pleasure welcoming you back to the studio um when premier danielle smith

00:34:01.360 signed this mou with the prime minister she said quote it's a great day let's try again police

00:34:07.680 officers turned up yeah they basically said you had committed a hate crime by using that f word

00:34:15.200 in a private text message i was in also shock if the state can pry on our private conversations that

00:34:22.320 really does take us into orwellian territory you well we'll talk about the f word again shortly with

00:34:27.440 my panel who are standing by but tucker carson's claim that i could be arrested the same for saying

00:34:32.800 it was based on a real story he'd read in the daily mail a nursing home worker been arrested and

00:34:37.600 convicted he said for using that word in text messages about a man she claims had assaulted her

00:34:42.720 as i said in the interview it sounded utterly ridiculous ladies in a string of examples of an

00:34:47.440 assault on free speech in the uk but i hadn't actually read the story and i said i'd look into it

00:34:52.160 afterwards that's exactly what i did and i'm pleased to say that elizabeth kinney the mother

00:34:56.240 of four who was convicted over her text messages joins me in the studio now elizabeth uh thank you

00:35:02.240 for coming in and uh joining us today for this debate just first of all just to clear up exactly

00:35:08.080 what happened to you explain to me and the viewers and i should mention because we made sure

00:35:15.920 we did not put the word in here because it leads to potential problems

00:35:22.720 but the word she used in a private text message was f-a-g-g-o-t which a lot of people have pointed

00:35:29.840 out to me the short term of that f-a-g still refers to a cigarette in the united kingdom

00:35:39.200 and in fact i had a when i first started journalism

00:35:46.160 he used to say i had a a fellow editor where i first started out and he he was a well-seasoned

00:35:56.240 journalist originally from great britain and settled in canada and seen it all

00:36:01.520 and he used to like to say i'm dying for an f-a-g usually about 10 o'clock in the morning so

00:36:10.080 i just put that out for your your interest what went down i was assaulted by a male acquaintance

00:36:19.440 um and physically or sexually physically physically physically and it wasn't my ex-partner it was a

00:36:26.720 friend like a group of friends and the female acquaintance that basically she basically was

00:36:36.400 getting jealous over me because she started seeing my ex-partner and so she was trying to cause trouble

00:36:42.720 for me which ended up resulting in me getting attacked and after that um obviously i went to

00:36:50.480 the hospital and i sent her messages and pictures of me injuries and just to prove like

00:36:57.120 what what basically what she'd caused and and obviously i was very upset at the time and i'd had a

00:37:05.280 um like inflammation on me on my brain and i had a skull fracture which made me not really feel

00:37:14.080 like myself at the time i was very upset and i i was very like angry with what had happened to me which

00:37:21.280 made me like say a messages that i really wouldn't have said so you sent her a load of messages i mean

00:37:29.200 would you categorize them as abusive highly abusive it was more just to the to point into the fact that

00:37:36.640 what had happened to me i only just sent her pictures of my injuries

00:37:40.960 and um and and obviously said like why would you cause this much trouble for me and stuff and

00:37:47.200 make up lies and like which now resulted in me being attacked and um she then reported you

00:37:54.160 yeah for what she said were harassing messages yeah i only it was a five minute period of time

00:38:01.520 when i just how did you feel when you when the police contacted you well i was shocked i didn't

00:38:06.000 i didn't expect that i mean because these are private text messages throughout my life i've had

00:38:11.200 messages with my friends and we've fallen out we've said things that aren't very nice to each other but

00:38:15.120 you would never really expect that to to go any further than that i've heard 11 police officers

00:38:19.680 turned up yeah i mean that's completely ridiculous yeah i'd left my front door open and i was waiting

00:38:25.120 for my dad to come to the house and i was actually in the bath and 11 they opened the door themselves

00:38:31.680 and just came in and came and you're in the bath yeah and what do they say to you well i heard

00:38:38.800 i mean are you this this is just so incredible not only these private text messages why would you send

00:38:44.880 11 11 cops to a woman's house who has apparently all she's done is is use a word you object to in a

00:38:56.480 private text message and you you walk through her front door uninvited just because your front door is

00:39:03.040 not locked doesn't mean anybody can walk in

00:39:07.680 they've not then they go upstairs to the bathroom all in crowd into the bathroom one only one of the

00:39:17.760 cops is a female the rest the rest the 10 of them are male cops who apparently are really enjoying this

00:39:27.040 i find this incredible just incredible my name which was one female out of the lot of them 10

00:39:34.000 male officers yeah um and then i heard my name and i thought oh it might be my sister because it

00:39:38.800 didn't sound like someone who was because obviously i was upstairs in the bath um and then then they

00:39:44.960 just come up the stairs and they didn't give me any privacy or anything like you were naked yes

00:39:50.560 how did that make you feel disgusted i'm really obsessed i was crying my eyes out and what did they

00:39:56.880 say to you what did they say they were there for um well i was just asking them can they can they

00:40:02.160 just leave the female officer and can they please go downstairs as um obviously i was upset and i

00:40:07.840 didn't i had no clothes on and he kind of wanted to watch me get changed and and i was very upset about

00:40:13.760 that and in the end they did send the males down the stairs and the female officer sat with me and

00:40:19.840 one i was crying my eyes i was really upset and then i said what what he is even here for because

00:40:24.960 i was you know if 11 cops walked into my bathroom when i was having a shower i think i'd be a little

00:40:33.120 upset too i mean it's just this is absolutely so outrageous it's beyond the pale and the fact

00:40:44.400 she had she actually had to negotiate to get these buggers out of her bathroom is incredible to me

00:40:51.040 and who committed the crime in this instance i ask you that who committed the crime somebody with a

00:41:03.040 private text message that's none of their damn business or or 10 gawkers who came in the bathroom

00:41:12.560 because that to me amounts to sexual harassment at the very least i was shocked i was in

00:41:20.880 utter shock and she said um for malicious communications and hate crime and malicious

00:41:28.000 communications and i said what for and um she's obviously they said we'll discuss that when we get

00:41:33.120 to the basically to the police station you go to the station and then they outline that it's these

00:41:38.960 messages you sent to this yeah uh friend that you've had this argument with um all connected to

00:41:45.840 the fact that you yourself as you say have been assaulted um i'm not going to get into that so

00:41:51.760 much as one of the more inflammatory things about this whole story which tucker carson picked up on

00:41:58.160 was in the course of these text messages you use the f word and we've already said what that word is he

00:42:04.400 repeated it many times i choose not to say it you can do what you like um but that word did you intend it

00:42:12.160 in the messages to be a derogatory homophobic slur absolutely because that is that is the alleged crime

00:42:20.720 is that you were promoting hate towards gay people by using that word first of all a lot of my friends

00:42:28.320 are gay i have got i am not homophobic in any way shape or form the words in question is a word that

00:42:38.960 in where we in our town where we live we associate that word with somebody who

00:42:44.640 were mainly males who hit females like it's never a word for a sexuality it's always a word

00:42:52.400 where we live in our context as in like basically a weak person for instance my brother's best friend

00:43:00.320 got sent off the pitch in football last week because one of the guys fell over and you know

00:43:04.880 he called he called him that name but it was just a joke but he got sent and this of course

00:43:10.960 is precisely why so-called malicious communication or hate speech or however you want to describe it

00:43:20.000 this is why it's flawed because hatred is in the ear and the eye of the beholder

00:43:27.360 this woman didn't wasn't even using this word in the context that many of us might think of it

00:43:36.400 she had her own reasons for using that word but yet the government has declared well that's a hateful

00:43:43.680 word therefore you should be charged for using expressing that word this is so anathema

00:43:52.000 the freedom of expression let common sense rule not

00:44:01.520 unwise laws and we'll get on with it it's off the pitch because but but in our context like

00:44:09.120 it just means like you've got a heavier i mean in the end you pleaded guilty first of all why did you

00:44:13.280 plead guilty man my solicitor told me to right and i've never been in trouble before and i i was really

00:44:19.120 concerned about you had no criminal record no because the malicious communications offenses which

00:44:24.640 is under which you were you were prosecuted such as sending grossly offensive messages can receive a

00:44:30.000 hate crime sentence uplift if motivated by hostility towards a protected characteristic like race religion

00:44:37.680 sexual orientation or disability so you got an uplifted sentence they they basically said you had

00:44:45.200 committed a hate crime by using that f word yeah which given that you had no intent to be homophobic

00:44:54.320 with it for the reasons you've outlined just seems preposterous yeah in a private text message to

00:44:59.680 somebody i didn't even say to the person who you were angry with because you had been assaulted yes

00:45:05.920 has anything happened about the assault when i was in the hospital and the police were called by the

00:45:11.600 doctors and nurses and everyone in question um were arrested at that given point and then i end up

00:45:21.600 getting arrested a week after that and what's happened with the no one ever came back to me to

00:45:27.280 discuss that no one wanted statements from me they were just obviously more it seemed like there's been

00:45:31.840 no prosecution no

00:45:32.880 so the fact you're assaulted was deemed to be less serious it would appear than the fact you'd use this

00:45:39.760 f word in communication private communication with this woman you'd had a falling out with yeah

00:45:44.960 what do you feel about that very very disheartened and upset it's it's destroyed my character as a

00:45:52.000 person i've been a care assistant since i was 17 and i want to be a nurse i like helping people i want to

00:45:58.640 save people's lives i have got a good character as as um obviously i'm still working in my post now

00:46:05.440 my managers haven't let me go for the reason being they know me as a person they stood by you

00:46:10.800 they've got i've got everyone's got my back in this what reaction have you had from the community

00:46:16.000 everyone's having me back and everyone's been so supportive i mean i've not heard one bad word said

00:46:21.200 about about this whole that everyone's just just as disgusted as i am how far it's gone i didn't even

00:46:27.840 know it could be a crime so in a private message neither did i use language like that neither did

00:46:33.760 i what do you think it says about free speech in this country um well it's not as heavy as it is in

00:46:40.400 america but i believe that actually it's better in america yeah this would never have happened in

00:46:47.200 america yeah their their first amendment protects your right to be offensive if you want to be yeah you're

00:46:53.200 not you know it's one thing if you came in and said i said all these things and i stand by it and

00:46:57.840 i i wanted to be homophobic that's one thing but you clearly you had a you know you were angry because

00:47:02.800 of what had happened to you you were in a hospital getting treatment for injuries sustained in what

00:47:07.920 you say was an attack and i don't know obviously about that side of it but i'll take your word for

00:47:12.560 it um and then you have 11 police officers charging into your home as you're having a bath it was very

00:47:21.200 very frightening i'll probably like i've had nightmares and everything about it and like i'm

00:47:26.640 i've got i've got cameras on my house and stuff i'll keep them on and make sure the doors are always

00:47:30.560 locked now because it's not even the public that anyone needs to be scared of these days it's it's the

00:47:34.720 police did you it's the police you need to be afraid of and that's how it's getting in canada

00:47:45.200 ask katie who were they afraid of at the farm it was the cfia and the cops want to share something

00:47:56.320 with you here from my good friend nico logan who i guessed on his wednesday night show every week

00:48:03.920 the conservative corner we have a great conversation encourage you to watch that 6 30

00:48:08.000 p.m eastern time wednesday nights we'll be there again i want to show you this

00:48:27.920 all i have to do is find

00:48:38.000 all right

00:48:50.000 we're looking for nico's post here

00:49:00.160 we're looking for nico's post here

00:49:05.840 all right

00:49:14.160 all right

00:49:21.680 all right

00:49:30.160 there we are

00:49:35.200 and we'd find it one of these days they're they're criminalizing an emotion intense dislike

00:49:42.400 is criminal but mere dislike is not

00:49:49.200 what are the biggest issues with bill c9 the first problem is that there's already a problem in the

00:49:55.040 criminal code bill c9 makes things worse and that is the existing provision that prohibits hate

00:50:01.040 speech 319 subsection 2 everyone who by communicating statements other than in private conversation

00:50:08.320 willfully promotes hatred against any identifiable group is guilty of an offense but what is not in

00:50:13.840 there right now in the criminal code is a definition of what hatred is and that's one of the things that

00:50:18.480 bill c9 is providing hatred means the emotion that involves detestation or vilification and that is

00:50:26.240 stronger than disdain or dislike the emotion that involves detestation is now prohibited but the emotion

00:50:35.040 that is mere dislike is not prohibited but what does detestation mean if you look it up one of the ways

00:50:41.680 detestation is described is intense dislike intense dislike is criminal but mere dislike

00:50:50.000 is not so where is the line between intense dislike and mere dislike nobody knows that they're

00:50:56.480 criminalizing an emotion criminal offenses typically have two different kinds of elements

00:51:01.920 things that the prosecution must prove number one is the act you know did you do the thing and

00:51:06.160 the second is the intent you know did you intend to do the thing this is a third thing not act it's

00:51:10.960 not intent it's emotion emotions have no place in the criminal law what they are essentially doing

00:51:16.320 is saying this two acts that are both wrong if one of them is committed with the emotion of hatred

00:51:22.960 that one is worse than the other one so let me give you two examples let's say somebody attacks you on

00:51:27.040 the street actually you you're having a bad day you get attacked twice the first is an attack by a guy

00:51:32.560 who attacked you for no reason at all just because you were there doesn't know you doesn't care what

00:51:37.120 you are the second situation you got attacked again by somebody who looked at you and said i don't

00:51:42.240 like the look of his face or i don't like the color of his face or i don't like his background and so

00:51:46.640 i'm going to attack him in both situations the attacker harmed you to an equal extent question

00:51:51.760 which of those two offenses is worse it should be both equal right because the act was the same in

00:51:56.880 both cases that's my point but not in the law the law now says oh no if you do with hatred

00:52:02.400 in your heart you are a more serious offender than the other guy who couldn't care less that doesn't

00:52:07.200 make any sense there's some others with the idea of you know hatred against identifiable groups and

00:52:11.920 that's because it doesn't really apply to everyone someone were to attack me or my son my 17 year old

00:52:17.600 son who's a white guy that you know white devil or whatever are clearly motivated by that they would

00:52:22.000 not be charged with a hate crime you're exactly right this is a means by which to establish two-tier

00:52:27.520 justice it is a tool in the hands of the state to decide who they prefer be lenient on and who to

00:52:34.480 prosecute to the nines wow wow

00:52:42.320 now that was worth watching i'm going to see if i can get that professor on the show because i i'm in

00:52:50.320 total sync we don't need hate crime legislation we don't need hate speech legislation it should all be

00:52:56.400 eradicated from the criminal code it's dangerous it's counterproductive it is completely fraudulent

00:53:03.280 in its design and it's completely toxic in its delivery and we need to get rid of it if we have

00:53:12.160 any vestige of freedom left in this country you know i think of this there's a great line

00:53:19.680 in the movie gods and generals and the confederate general stonewall jackson talks about the consequences

00:53:29.120 of losing the war between the states the civil war and he says if the if the north loses this little war

00:53:37.280 they'll just return to their factories and their banks like nothing ever happened he says if we lose this

00:53:46.160 war we lose everything and that is exactly where we are in canada right now if we lose this fight

00:53:55.040 for our freedom of speech let me tell you folks it doesn't matter what's in this budget it doesn't matter

00:54:04.800 how long mark carney can survive as prime minister it doesn't even matter

00:54:16.800 if sean fraser continues to be attorney general for the next six months or a year we lose everything

00:54:22.560 foundational to our democracy if we lose our freedom of speech and we are on the precipice of doing that

00:54:28.560 i cannot overemphasize this enough that's not a little redundant i cannot overemphasize the need

00:54:38.080 to keep fighting back and we're going to be doing that every day on this show

00:54:46.080 thank you so much for watching today i'll be back again tomorrow hopefully at the same time 10 10 o'clock i'm

00:54:51.600 trying to get back to a a regular 10 o'clock slot here and like i say we'll be we'll be talking to katie

00:55:00.320 to sit in there later today about her recent experiences thank you for watching god bless you all

00:55:07.040 thank you for sharing this station with your friends and family thank you for hitting that like

00:55:25.120 button because i tell you we have we are fighting back in a way i've never had to before because i'm

00:55:32.560 going to keep this station on the air i'm going to keep fighting for freedom i'm going to keep

00:55:36.720 fighting for justice and truth and i am damn determined to resist this carny government in any

00:55:45.120 way possible as it encroaches upon our individual freedom and it will continue to do that mark my words

00:55:52.960 i'll be back again tomorrow same time same place 10 a.m this has been david creighton

00:56:02.560 broadcasting live from our nation's capital in ottawa thank you for watching we'll see you again

00:56:22.960 um

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Stand on Guard with David Krayden - December 09, 2025

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