Stand on Guard with David Krayden - March 13, 2025


EXPOSED: Mark Carney's Impossible Leadership Win | Stand on Guard


Episode Stats

Length

45 minutes

Words per Minute

166.45226

Word Count

7,634

Sentence Count

20

Misogynist Sentences

10

Hate Speech Sentences

6


Summary

Rebel News founder and founder of Rebel News, Ezra Levant, joins me to talk about the recent election results, and why he thinks the Liberal Party of Canada is a fraud, a fraud machine, and a fraud organization.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 and now our neighbors want to take us no way no way this party has more than quadrupled its
00:00:17.400 membership in the past two months more than 300 000 members more than 300 000 members
00:00:23.080 unfortunately two-thirds of members liberal members couldn't vote for mark carney they're
00:00:33.640 disqualified something rebel news actually was the first out there to talk about when we come back
00:00:39.340 my guest publisher founder of rebel news a real conservative journalist and somebody who
00:00:47.240 is a truth teller ezra levant we'll be right back with that
00:00:51.580 we need but it's a change
00:01:06.220 so we also need to resolve to resist
00:01:17.240 i i have known ezra levant since 1999 that's 26 years it seems like yesterday and here he is
00:01:29.980 ezra i first met you in ottawa i was working for a marvelous member of parliament from calgary
00:01:36.980 northeast named art hanger he was uh still remains a good friend and the best person i ever worked
00:01:43.800 for and you were working in preston matting's office as a communications guru
00:01:47.360 wow that's those were the days the world was simpler we felt like we were in the battle of our lives but
00:01:53.840 little did we know how the troubles that were lying ahead but those were good days
00:01:59.260 yeah and i i looked back on them fondly we thought we could we could change the world and
00:02:04.620 but you have in a large degree as a pioneer
00:02:08.500 of new media independent media
00:02:11.520 conservative media we had
00:02:13.840 we used to have some magazines out before you
00:02:16.900 took on the world with rebel news
00:02:19.500 you've set the standard i think
00:02:21.660 for small c conservative news for independent news
00:02:24.940 you have been put through hell at times
00:02:27.540 by people who have called you every name in the book
00:02:30.700 who have tried to cancel you have tried to dismiss you but you keep fighting you keep swinging
00:02:35.580 you get up and you can you always fight for the right the right thing so it's a pleasure to have you on today
00:02:41.020 my mark carney i want to start with mark carney because there he is
00:02:45.340 86 percent of the vote it sounds like something they used to get in the soviet union except there's a little higher but
00:02:52.220 they had i guess had to make it sound realistic but you were commenting on rebel the other day
00:02:57.360 that it's it was impossible for this man to win
00:03:01.760 every single
00:03:03.480 riding
00:03:04.500 and get 86 percent of the vote
00:03:06.960 can you elaborate on that
00:03:08.580 sure i mean the first thing i noticed
00:03:11.200 i mean you uh is that mark carney and the liberal party were
00:03:14.460 were boasting that they registered nearly 400 000
00:03:19.460 members and that is a pretty good achievement i mean that's
00:03:23.420 fully one percent of the canadian population which is a lot to join a party
00:03:26.780 but then on when it came to election day in their internal contest
00:03:32.120 only 150 000 votes were quote verified
00:03:36.540 so almost 400 000 registered but barely a third were legit
00:03:42.940 that's weird what what were the other 250 000 were they fraudulent were they
00:03:50.240 bots were they just people who decided not to vote
00:03:54.980 we haven't had an answer to that question
00:03:57.320 and if i were to tell you that your local mayor
00:04:00.580 got 20 000 votes and won
00:04:03.440 but
00:04:04.560 you know
00:04:05.500 40 000 votes were not counted
00:04:08.540 or were disqualified you'd say holy moly we better look into that so
00:04:12.340 my spider senses were tingling from the beginning
00:04:14.720 but when the results of the election were posted
00:04:17.920 i started looking through them just out of idle curiosity
00:04:21.060 you know we might know there's 300 more than 330 districts or ridings in
00:04:26.820 canada and maybe i grew up in that one i'm
00:04:29.440 interested in this one so i just started poking around
00:04:32.040 and i noticed that in every single riding the results were
00:04:36.940 practically the same
00:04:38.700 as you mentioned mark carney allegedly got
00:04:42.280 85.9 percent of the vote which is extremely high
00:04:45.700 but it was so uniform whether it was in french canada or english canada the north
00:04:51.680 or the south rural or urban and
00:04:54.880 every single district was pretty much the same
00:04:58.940 and and then i checked out a few in particular for example christie freeland
00:05:03.200 who came in second christie freeland has been
00:05:05.960 ubiquitous in liberal party politics for a decade
00:05:09.440 she was trudeau's right-hand woman until the very
00:05:12.240 last moment she has more press coverage than
00:05:15.700 any other cabinet minister by far
00:05:17.920 she lives in a district called university rosedale
00:05:22.700 and you're telling me that she could only get 188 votes in her entire
00:05:28.940 district over 100 000 people there
00:05:31.480 she's lived there her her husband her children
00:05:34.660 her friends her family her staff
00:05:37.160 i don't believe that the deputy prime minister for a decade
00:05:41.020 can only get 188 votes in university rosedale
00:05:44.540 and mark carney gets nearly 10 times as many i don't believe it
00:05:47.800 and same with karina gould who came in third
00:05:51.080 she's from burlington i don't think mark carney's even been to burlington in his
00:05:55.700 whole life
00:05:56.240 and same thing there she only got 190 votes
00:06:00.700 you're telling me that her entire family all her friends all her neighbors all
00:06:04.260 every one every rotary club she's attended every
00:06:07.240 you know i don't believe it and mark carney again
00:06:10.480 miraculously getting 85 plus or minus five in every single district it just
00:06:16.760 defies credulity it's like flipping a coin a hundred times and getting
00:06:21.260 heads every time so i i tried to use ai to figure this one out
00:06:25.420 and i i put the results in an excel spreadsheet
00:06:29.140 and i uploaded it to grok which is uh an ai platform
00:06:33.880 and i said what are the what is the statistical chance
00:06:37.700 that this is naturally occurring or that this is engineered or rigged in some way
00:06:43.640 and yet obviously you know depending on what you instruct the ai you're going to
00:06:48.780 get a different answer
00:06:49.640 but um when i used grok ai
00:06:53.280 and i uploaded an excel spreadsheet of all the results what grok said to me was there was a 2.7
00:07:00.300 percent chance that this was naturally occurring in other words it was a 97 chance
00:07:07.040 that there was some jiggery pokery going on do you really believe that a 10-year
00:07:12.700 political star like christia freeland can only get 188 votes in her own writing i don't but the
00:07:17.800 thing is we'll never know because christia freeland is not complaining karina gould is not complaining
00:07:23.780 they're all in it together um by the way 14 year olds were allowed to vote
00:07:29.300 foreign girls were allowed to vote so i think the thing stinks but again i i had my spider senses
00:07:36.440 were tingling even earlier than that one last point david i don't know if you remember ruby
00:07:40.620 dolla yes canadian born former mp for the liberals good communicator um she announced her campaign
00:07:50.760 raised the 350 grand entry fee which is huge and started really hustling and selling and then they
00:07:56.940 took her registration fee and then fired her as a candidate and they fired another candidate who said
00:08:02.440 things that they didn't like and if you watch the debates with the four approved candidates it wasn't
00:08:07.560 a debate it was a love in they weren't taking shots what's my point the combination of the
00:08:14.200 fact that foreigners and children were allowed to vote that most of the registered voters were
00:08:20.220 disqualified that the debate was not a debate at all it was friendly hand-holding that ruby dolla and
00:08:28.780 and the other fellow aria i forget chandra were disqualified and the fact that the results are
00:08:35.860 statistically so unlikely i do not believe in the integrity of this vote and we know for a fact
00:08:43.420 that the people's republic of china has a great interest in canadian electoral politics that's
00:08:47.660 according to cseson the rcmp we had a whole judicial inquiry into it they targeted 11 districts in the
00:08:53.200 2019 election they bust in people to manipulate you know local primaries or nominations this is the
00:09:02.140 biggest prize of all it's an online vote choosing the prime minister directly you don't think the
00:09:07.840 people's republic of china had a means motive and opportunity to meddle now i don't have proof of that
00:09:13.380 because the four leadership candidates are all smiling along they're all in on on the compact together
00:09:19.940 so i don't ever know but i think that canada's prime minister was selected not elected and i think
00:09:29.040 that the vote count has so many red flags that are being ignored and and listen i'm i'm going on a
00:09:35.820 lack of information here because they're not telling us any of these things were there scrutineers
00:09:40.780 the the quarter million people who were disqualified why how who was it done electronically was there any
00:09:47.200 evidence about hacking attempt why were they all so friendly in the so-called debate there's a hundred
00:09:53.280 questions i would ask of course we won't be able to ask them because he's not allowing citizen
00:09:57.820 journalists to get within 20 feet of him and you know sorry for that very long answer but there's a
00:10:02.440 lot of cooking here that's what i asked for you you mentioned china and i'll pick up on that in a
00:10:07.540 second because it's fascinating mark carney's relationship with china but of course they're
00:10:13.340 trying to create the liberal party's trying to create carney mania and that it's an impossible
00:10:18.680 dream this man has the rep is the personality of a reptile he's not engaging he's a lousy public
00:10:26.380 speaker in fact his victory speech on sunday night was almost identical to the speeches he's given at
00:10:32.780 every little coffee class he's been to over the last 30 days where he gets about 25 or 30 people
00:10:38.520 out to hear his words of wisdom and i i just found it amazing but liz truss said it well i think the other
00:10:46.200 day uh why haven't i seen this yeah liz truss tweeted that there's another bureaucrat who's going into
00:10:54.040 politics and of course liz truss i had liz on this on this program a couple of weeks ago and she had
00:11:01.440 lots of nice things to say about mark carney no not exactly she said he was horrible bank governor of
00:11:08.280 the bank of england that he he he printed money like a drunken sailor he spent money and of course she
00:11:15.600 expects him to do the same thing as the prime minister of canada but this a brief clip here of
00:11:21.260 carney because this is hilarious because peer polly of this week fine i think finally noticed that
00:11:27.420 mark carney doesn't think canadians use steel products anymore he actually said that in a ctv
00:11:33.260 interview and here's mark carney at a steel plant because of these unjustified tariffs that have been put
00:11:39.420 on uh we and my colleagues and the government want to make absolutely clear that we stand foursquare
00:11:51.980 with you in this but the large polluters pay and so what happens does that not ultimately trickle down
00:11:59.660 no because the what what the uh the big companies are producing by and large are not products that we
00:12:06.140 are consuming there's some element of that but by and large you know a steel company how much how much
00:12:11.100 steel are you using uh these days todd i mean not as much not as much we use sorry so that's that
00:12:16.280 so this is a guy with a phd in economics but he doesn't think canadians use steel anymore
00:12:23.000 well there's one more thing about steel i'd like uh your viewers to know they probably know that i think
00:12:28.760 everybody knows it except for mark carney which is you can't make steel without coal and coal is
00:12:35.720 one of the most carbon intensive fuels out there and mark carney has spent the last 20 years talking
00:12:42.180 about decarbonizing society transitioning away from carbon and he's done something about it it started
00:12:51.080 when he was a central banker and he's made it his life's work which is to uh what's called net
00:12:58.720 zero reducing the amount of energy we use reducing carbon coal oil gas so he's you know he can
00:13:06.720 pretend that he's for steel workers today but for 20 years he's been trying to raise costs on steel
00:13:13.340 makers coal companies oil and gas canada's economy is very strongly related to natural resources our
00:13:22.580 number one exports to america crude oil mining all of that is something mark carney has hated his whole
00:13:29.920 life now he can see that the retail carbon tax is unpopular so i think he's going to abolish that
00:13:36.580 but he's saying he's just going to switch it right on to manufacturers so that coal plant where he was
00:13:42.820 sorry that steel plant where he was standing they will be paying a mark carney carbon tax
00:13:48.040 he simply believes in it you know there's a lot of things we don't know about mark carney and this
00:13:54.400 is another reason why i'm skeptical of his uh leadership result i don't think one in a hundred
00:13:59.900 canadians could pick him out of a lineup and he hasn't spent a lot of time in canada his wife still
00:14:05.480 lives and work and works in new york mark carney has three passports he went to the bank of england so
00:14:12.000 i can understand him getting a british passport but he also has an irish passport and the only reason i can
00:14:17.140 think of for that is he probably has some tax scheme because there's a lot of it's sort of a tax
00:14:23.320 loophole jurisdiction i think we know next to nothing about mark carney where has he lived the last year
00:14:30.220 let alone the last 10 years um where has he filed his taxes what what are his business interests i'm not
00:14:37.820 curious for personal reasons i want to know what he's been doing lobbying justin trudeau's government
00:14:45.820 for grants or other schemes what are his we don't know almost anything about him uh i'll throw another
00:14:54.260 thing at you when he was in the uk he hung out with gillaine maxwell that's jeffrey epstein's right
00:15:00.400 hand woman she's in prison now um why are you hanging out with someone who is a participant an active
00:15:08.740 participant in child trafficking there's so many things we don't know about mark carney and he's keeping
00:15:15.380 the media out on purpose
00:15:17.020 yeah yeah very very definitely now you mentioned china and of course that's an ever-present problem
00:15:25.100 in canada with chinese interference but i don't think a lot of people know that mark carney
00:15:29.420 has advocated as recently as night last year
00:15:33.060 that the chinese one should replace the u.s dollar as the world currency this guy is definitely
00:15:40.760 a globalist plant i think he's on a collision course with with donald trump in terms of policy
00:15:48.020 and personality i think all of the liberal leadership candidates and justin trudeau before them
00:15:56.060 have decided that running against donald trump is politically superior uh than running against
00:16:03.100 pierre polyev pierre polyev uh you know some people don't like him but he does not reflect an
00:16:09.360 existential threat to canada neither does donald trump by the way i think a lot of it is negotiating
00:16:14.300 bluster if you've read his book art of the deal he he talks about the use of hyperbole to knock the
00:16:20.660 other party off balance um but carney just like trudeau before him knows that this is their chance
00:16:27.800 to wrap themselves in the flag be captain canada defend our national honor and sovereignty which
00:16:32.680 is quite something for the liberal party given that they have demonized and denormalized our
00:16:38.600 sovereignty our nationhood our culture our history for a decade they took john a mcdonald off the ten
00:16:43.360 dollar bill they reworded our anthem they stripped historical images out of our passport they
00:16:49.840 have knocked down statues of sir john a mcdonald or put them in wooden coffins like in in toronto's
00:16:55.720 queens park justin trudeau himself said canada has not only committed a genocide historically but is
00:17:03.100 doing so on an ongoing basis during the trucker convoy when truckers waved the flags and saying no canada
00:17:10.320 waving the flag was deemed a right-wing symbol like a hate crime so suddenly these people claim they love
00:17:18.240 canada they don't love canada they just see it as the weapon of the day to fight against donald trump
00:17:23.160 and mark mark my words they've chosen to fight with trump now trump made it easy for them trump's
00:17:31.000 bellicosity trump's you know yanking trudeau's chain by talking about the 51st state trump made it easy for
00:17:37.120 them but they would rather fight with trump than make a deal because if they make a deal then they can't
00:17:44.940 fight against trump in the election they they wish the ballot said mark one x for mark carney or donald
00:17:51.000 trump it's not that good for them so they they want to fight that's why trump i don't know if trump knows
00:17:57.300 what he's up against trump is a great negotiator he's the guy who pulled off the abraham accords he's
00:18:03.140 you know when you when you make deals in manhattan real estate you get to be pretty sharp
00:18:07.800 but normally and again i'm referring to art of the deal it's trump who knows that you walk away
00:18:14.620 you have to have the power to walk away from a deal or you won't get a good deal well i think he
00:18:19.200 doesn't realize that mark carney does not want a deal so trump may be thinking oh i'll get these guys
00:18:25.400 to come around no no he won't mark carney will never make a deal with trump because mark carney wants
00:18:30.500 to fight trump for the delight of voters and mark carney wants to really work at that anti-american
00:18:36.920 seem in canadian culture and trudeau too trudeau encouraging people to boo the u.s anthem i'll say
00:18:44.460 this uh justin trudeau got came by that honestly his father pierre trudeau was an anti-american bigot
00:18:51.820 who flew to the soviet union flew to cuba flew to communist china and there was no tyrant that
00:18:58.340 pure trudeau didn't love he was anti-american all the way down and i think that has reinfected the
00:19:04.100 liberal party yeah very definitely and i i've been saying for months now that the liberal party
00:19:10.280 game plan is to run against donald trump there's no question they demonized donald trump it's the
00:19:14.960 old anti-american sentiment that as you say pierre trudeau loved to talk about and justin trudeau
00:19:20.520 loved to talk about they want to trade war they want this these retaliatory tariffs because it helps
00:19:26.180 them uh when when i was talking to liz trust she mentions oh sullivan's law i don't know if you've
00:19:31.960 ever heard of this i'm sure you have but it's the the idea that conservative organizations tend to drift
00:19:37.760 leftward unless otherwise influenced are you concerned with pierre poly of right now
00:19:45.980 talking in unison with justin trudeau and mark carney on tariffs he wants these retaliatory tariffs
00:19:54.560 he wants to punish the u.s and he's also in lockstep on ukraine we're with them to the very end although
00:20:00.680 the war is clearly long over and it's time to stop pouring billions of dollars into this black
00:20:07.080 hole of kiev are you concerned that we could end up as we did with aaron o'toole with a a red tory
00:20:14.040 who feels he has to move to the left to appease what the media the the the public whatever ever
00:20:22.660 motivated aaron who i who i knew from the military but are you concerned that we have to push harder
00:20:28.980 from conservative media because you told me once that the role of conservative media is to push back
00:20:35.040 from the right on conservative politicians because otherwise they will continue the drift of the left
00:20:40.620 that's right and you know i'm i'm delighted to hear oh sullivan saw i had the pleasure of working for
00:20:45.520 o sullivan for two years when he was the comment editor of the national post and he had a lot of wise
00:20:50.580 insights like that um but to answer your question i don't think that's pierre poly of tacking to the
00:20:56.800 left i think that's pierre poly of in a pragmatic temporary way trying to avoid being called a mini
00:21:05.400 trump trying to avoid being called disloyal like i don't think it's right or left i think it's
00:21:11.400 uh i think the conservative party realizes that the media the regime the establishment has decided
00:21:19.080 it's freak out time on donald trump and like i said trump has made it easy for them to do that
00:21:24.180 so i i don't think it's a left-wing or right-wing thing i think uh pierre poly of has decided he's
00:21:29.960 got to be as anti-trump as anybody or he will be demonized as trump's agent now they're sort of
00:21:37.060 trying to do that anyways but there's a reason why pierre poly of has not done american right-wing media
00:21:44.860 there's a reason why pierre poly of has not gone down to mar-a-lago because that would be
00:21:49.580 cast as him being on trump's side of this battle i think that if pierre poly of can hold it together
00:21:57.520 and win the next election which i think he will by the way i think then he'll return to a more normal
00:22:02.780 approach something maybe more like stephen harper would do now stephen harper has expressed his views
00:22:08.480 on these tariffs and he has said he would fight the tariffs he would have countervailing tariffs so
00:22:14.500 stephen harper um would would do some of the things the liberals are are talking about the
00:22:21.180 difference is stephen harper would not throw gas on the fire he would actually try and solve the problem
00:22:25.900 rather than exploit the problem so i think that if pierre poly of can stay in the game and win the
00:22:33.180 election i think after that he will become more like stephen harper calm problem solving rather than
00:22:42.100 problem exploiting i don't think it's a i don't think it's um poly of selling out i think it's poly of
00:22:49.420 just trying to stay alive in this bizarre explosion um which is which has really moved the poll numbers
00:22:56.660 by the way well yes it certainly it's it certainly has and before we get to your book i just want you
00:23:03.780 to watch this clip from ontario premier doug ford who is was hysterical towards donald trump but
00:23:11.200 threatening to shut the power off to the entire northeast united states which was as one person
00:23:17.560 remarked me today almost an act of war but here's donald trump before and after he he met with the
00:23:23.860 commerce secretary in the united states and i find this try to annihilate ontario i will do everything
00:23:30.140 uh including cut off their energy with a smile on my face so and i'm encouraging every other province
00:23:36.800 to do the same quebec manitoba bc we all have to act in unison out east they rely on our energy they
00:23:45.020 need to feel the pain they want to come at us hard we're going to come back twice as hard you know to
00:23:50.440 the president i'm a different type of cat i'll fight tooth and nail i'm not going to roll over and
00:23:55.640 get annihilated i'll fight right to the death a little while ago i had an opportunity to speak to
00:24:02.100 secretary lutnik and secretary lutnik has sent out an olive branch to us to come down and immediately
00:24:12.660 meet with him meet with the whole trade administration and discuss the future rather
00:24:20.020 than waiting until april the second threats going back and forth tit for tat i've agreed to suspend
00:24:28.340 temporarily and we always have that tool in our our toolkit uh until we sit down you know over the
00:24:35.760 next day or two i'll be heading down to washington uh along with dominic leblanc and uh we'll have a
00:24:43.160 good discussion what do you think uh commerce secretary lutnik said to doug ford there's doug ford a and
00:24:50.720 there's doug ford b yeah and it's not just his substance that was changed his tone he was like a
00:24:57.160 boy who had been scolded i don't know why doug ford is doing this he just had an opportunistic
00:25:02.620 election um on this issue so surely he doesn't need to be as performative as mark carney or justin
00:25:09.860 trudeau were um i think it's also weird that doug ford is uh dealing with foreign affairs on behalf of
00:25:17.280 the whole country um now lutnik when he gave his critical interview talking about trump smacking down
00:25:23.780 doug ford he he was clear it was ontario and not canada but can any of the 10 provincial premiers
00:25:31.620 or three territorial premiers announce foreign policy like you're seriously going to put an export tax
00:25:38.080 or outright shut off electricity to to a foreign country and i don't know if doug ford came up with
00:25:46.180 that bright idea on his own or if he consulted well would he have consulted mark carney or as of this
00:25:52.960 very minute justin trudeau is still prime minister who approved that or do we even know i mean who
00:25:58.040 knows where trudeau is melanie jolie is probably doing something about gaza or ukraine she's not
00:26:03.380 really fit for dealing with the americans they don't respect her so we're in this very strange
00:26:07.440 situation that the liberals created when they prorogued parliament and called a leadership race
00:26:12.960 to deal with their own affairs instead of dealing with the affairs of the country um
00:26:16.880 i i can only imagine the different punishments that howard lutnik said over the phone to doug board
00:26:24.380 and i shouldn't laugh about it because it would be i'm sure it would have been disastrous for the u.s
00:26:30.440 economy i'm sorry pardon me for the ontario economy whatever lutnik would have threatened to do
00:26:35.140 and you don't turn off electricity i mean let's say there's a hospital and in the i'm sure there are
00:26:40.200 many hospitals that rely on that canadian energy could you imagine shutting off electricity
00:26:44.300 to a u.s hospital uh when you're a provincial premium you're not even i mean that's so insane
00:26:51.520 it doesn't even feel like a conservative policy it feels like what i said earlier someone who
00:26:57.440 literally does not want to deal because for some weird reason they prefer conflict and i'm starting
00:27:03.720 to think that doug ford is really a trudeau carney liberal i mean he's called conservative but he's
00:27:11.000 not very conservative and and a trade war would not benefit ontario but it would hurt pierre paulia
00:27:18.480 i think so i don't know doug ford i think embarrassed himself he is at the white house today let's see how
00:27:23.480 that goes um i don't know i mean trump has a skill of turning enemies into friends he turns friends into
00:27:31.900 enemies but he can turn enemies into friends and um i'm pretty sure doug ford will not get any face
00:27:38.820 time with trump but he'll get some time with lutnik maybe 10 or 15 minutes we'll see how it goes i'm
00:27:43.440 very curious actually well it is interesting and he's reduced the hysteria obviously and one one
00:27:51.500 premier who has never gotten hysterical and i had her on the show a couple of weeks ago is alberta
00:27:56.900 premier daniel smith she's been reasonable she's done all of the heavy lifting on these trade
00:28:02.080 negotiations little from the federal government with clowns like melanie jolie and dominic leblanc
00:28:08.760 pretending they're very very interested in this but as daniel smith pointed out to me and has she is
00:28:14.780 never uh always always earnest about pointing out is that if they shut off the line five which of
00:28:21.940 course doug ford and others have talked about shutting off the oil to the united states
00:28:25.860 it's also going to shut off oil to all of eastern canada and the impact of a line five shutdown would
00:28:32.760 be catastrophic not just to the u.s but to canada and daniel smith points this out all the time and i
00:28:39.420 know you do as well and and to get to your your book because conservative commentators in the u.s are
00:28:47.100 finally waking up to the fact that the more donald trump goes after peer polyam the more he antagonizes
00:28:53.400 conservatives conservatives in canada the more likely it is that the that the liberals are going
00:28:58.000 to have a resuscitation and perhaps even win the next election so there's an encouragement now to
00:29:03.980 just tone down the rhetoric let's get along let's have a an election in this country with a legitimate
00:29:10.760 government that can negotiate reasonably with donald trump and that's why i'm very enthused about your
00:29:17.740 book deal of the century because that's exactly what you're proposing here is that how can we work
00:29:24.300 with donald trump for the benefit of both countries and you're talking about how the oil sands can be
00:29:30.780 developed and how donald trump could play a lead now please as long as you want please talk about this
00:29:36.280 book i think it is a necessary part of the political discourse right now essential part of the political
00:29:42.300 discourse right now well thanks very much and thanks for giving me a platform to talk about it
00:29:46.840 my goal is to put the idea in the mind of america first people here's what i mean by that a dozen
00:29:53.320 years ago i wrote a book defending canada's oil sands but i was trying to appeal to liberals so i thought
00:29:59.320 what do liberals care about well the environment peace treatment of workers civil rights so i went through
00:30:06.280 each of those issues and i proved i think that the canadian oil sands were morally superior on those
00:30:13.780 four issues to any other opec conflict oil i said the canadian oil was ethical oil and opec oil was
00:30:21.460 conflict oil and i said the oil sands are like the fair trade coffee of the world's oil industry and the
00:30:27.100 book did pretty well i think it was sort of convincing when you think of the other places oil comes from
00:30:32.740 so how do we talk to donald trump and his circle i don't think those liberal values are really what turns the
00:30:39.700 crank for this administration i think it's how trump says it america first make america great again
00:30:45.920 economic prosperity uh what's in it for america and here's my answer to that if you care about america's
00:30:55.280 security prosperity you don't push away the oil sands you pull them close and i mentioned the oil
00:31:01.700 sands why am i talking about the oil sands suddenly because by far that's canada's biggest export to the
00:31:06.500 united states the auto sector is a distant second place and there's some agriculture and some other
00:31:12.300 things but by far what we're selling to america is oil and that's what trump was complaining about
00:31:18.480 he said we have a 200 billion dollar trade surplus or whatever the number was well yeah because you're
00:31:25.180 buying all that oil and if you were to buy it from saudi arabia or venezuela you'd have the trade
00:31:28.820 surplus with a deficit with m2 and tariffs won't work on the oil sands you put tariffs on a honda
00:31:36.460 factory in mexico yeah honda's gonna put the factory in the usa because that's they'll just
00:31:42.580 move the factory but you can't put tariffs on the oil sands and have the oil sands move to america
00:31:46.980 they don't move so all that you're doing is you're putting on a tax paid for by the u.s refineries
00:31:52.840 that buy that oil which then gets passed on to drivers so tariffs won't work in terms of pulling
00:31:59.600 the oil sands into america tariffs will in this case only raise prices for americans and even think
00:32:06.440 about it what are the companies producing oil in canada's oil sands they're either american owned
00:32:11.380 like imperial oil or they're canadian companies with a lot of u.s investors institutional investors
00:32:18.200 so it's really american no matter how you look at it and if you've ever read the u.s mca trade
00:32:23.700 agreement they have a special side letter on energy which basically gives the u.s preferential access
00:32:29.720 to the oil over anyone in the world and so if i was trying to convince an america first donald trump
00:32:37.140 advisor not to have a tariff war with canada i would say look do the opposite flip it around
00:32:45.100 talk to alberta premier danielle smith who's the most pro-america premier in the country she actually
00:32:51.720 went down to the inauguration for trump she's she hasn't said a cruel word against her he she's
00:32:56.780 controlled herself unlike say mark carney danielle smith has expressed publicly her desire that the oil
00:33:03.840 sands double their production right now rough numbers canada gives about four million barrels of
00:33:10.680 oil a day to the u.s that that's about half of their imports danielle smith in alberta can double
00:33:16.660 that number and what would and here's so here's the big move sorry for the long preamble but here's
00:33:22.180 the big move i'm talking about david if you've got 170 billion barrels of oil in the oil sense it's the
00:33:30.800 largest reserves in the world other than saudi arabia and venezuela if you do a 50 year 170
00:33:39.820 billion barrel deal deal of the century i call it a bigger deal than buying greenland a bigger deal
00:33:46.920 than buying panama that's a 13 trillion dollar deal and immediately it gets the u.s off of conflict
00:33:57.800 oil from the persian gulf or wherever else it's importing from it pushes china out of canada because
00:34:05.060 the u.s is buying it all it and by the way guess what you no longer need the fifth fleet to defend
00:34:12.800 the persian gulf the u.s spends about 50 billion dollars a year defending the persian gulf sea lanes
00:34:18.520 because that's where oil comes from well how about just buy it in a pipeline to the revive the keystone
00:34:23.900 excel pipeline take the oil from canada you don't need 50 billion dollars a year and the money you're
00:34:28.860 buying the oil for you can say to canada all right we're paying you for your oil in return
00:34:35.660 we demand that you beef up your military we demand you get rid of you know the drug the cross-border
00:34:42.160 drug trade and the migrant issue and and it's and i think those are reasonable things for america to ask
00:34:47.980 for anyways i mean wouldn't america if you're paying 75 bucks for a barrel of oil wouldn't you
00:34:53.720 rather if you're an america first type wouldn't you rather buy oil sands oil that's likely manufactured
00:35:00.060 by an american oil company the profits go to american investors the taxes go to build a nato military
00:35:08.440 you don't have to deploy the pentagon to defend it and you know it's trump was joking around about
00:35:16.620 acquiring canada i don't think he would go through with that thought experiment if he realized okay
00:35:24.300 canada would probably tilt democrat in the electoral college you've got the french english bilingualism issue
00:35:30.540 how about just take what you really want which is virtually unlimited oil
00:35:36.240 and bring our countries closer together and and the the cherry on the cake is trudeau and carny would
00:35:44.560 hate it because it's oil and it's america and it's freedom and it's prosperity and they're against all
00:35:51.140 those things so when i call it deal of the century i'm trying to say to president trump the tariff thing
00:35:57.340 won't really work in canada you're actually pumping up the liberal electoral fortunes you're letting
00:36:06.060 china nose in to the oil sands you're gonna have to buy foreign oil from opec instead like nothing
00:36:13.580 adds up as an america first move we all love to taunt trudeau but that's we can do that in other ways
00:36:22.080 in in my book i suggest ways to get mad at trudeau like putting sanctions on him because he said he was
00:36:28.840 presiding over a genocide right justin trudeau never stopped talking about that well maybe the united
00:36:34.800 states puts travel sanctions on trudeau until we get to the bottom of this genocide thing i don't
00:36:40.180 know if the united states can have a an accused genocidal world leader visiting new york anymore
00:36:45.620 i'm just having some fun but i'm saying if you want to yank trudeau's chain do it that way instead
00:36:50.360 of punishing in a whole economic trade anyway that's a theory i call it deal of the century because i think
00:36:56.340 maybe if donald trump thinks of it as an amazing real estate transaction which it sort of is
00:37:01.960 rent like a 50-year lease on the oil sands is sort of what i'm talking about maybe that's more
00:37:08.580 appealing to him than fighting with some um friend of guillain maxwell's i mean let's just let's just
00:37:15.480 do business over here and we can take care of carney and trudeau over here right language donald trump
00:37:21.840 understands i think that's what's brilliant about this book is that that's exactly what donald trump
00:37:26.700 needs to hear mark carney's incapable of doing that when all this rhetoric about elbows up and
00:37:32.600 and we're we will we will be unconquered and all of this nonsense it's not helping matters and i think
00:37:41.580 what you're saying in this book is that canada first and america and america first can exist coexist
00:37:49.320 can exist together and i think that's what polyev is trying to give voice to he's not quite got it
00:37:55.400 yet but i think that's where i hope that's where he's getting with this is that these are not
00:38:00.480 incompatible terms we can we can still exist as sovereign nations helping each other out and what
00:38:07.400 concerns me ezra is that all of this demonization of trump is overshadowing all the great things he's
00:38:14.500 doing right now for conservatives and and these could be applicable to canada he's going after
00:38:20.080 dei he's going after critical race theory he's established the doge which i think we need in
00:38:26.020 canada to root out all of these incredibly nefarious expenses that the federal government is up to
00:38:31.800 and while we're fighting with donald trump over this these tariffs and retaliatory tariffs are just taxes
00:38:39.140 on canadians i mean max maxine bernier has pointed this out repeatedly these are taxes retaliatory
00:38:45.560 tariffs and we don't need these we don't need this tariff war because we will lose every time if we go
00:38:52.560 toe-to-toe with the united states in any kind of war including a trade war and this is insanity we need
00:38:58.920 to resolve this and i think what you're saying in this book get on every broadcast you can and tell
00:39:05.100 canadians to lower the rhetoric let's get back to sanity let's get back to where daniel smith seems
00:39:11.660 the mindset that daniel smith seems to occupy and like i said when i spoke to her a couple of weeks
00:39:16.300 ago i said you're the only premier i know who's helpful right now everybody else is throwing gas
00:39:22.380 on the fire you're doing otherwise and with this book ezra you are trying to re-establish an attitude
00:39:29.580 of sanity and reason in this country and i and i can't thank you enough for doing that well thank
00:39:35.100 you for saying that it's tough being the junior partner in a partnership and that's what canada is
00:39:40.140 we're never going to be as big and powerful or rich as america but that doesn't mean we can't be
00:39:44.620 good friends i mean um batman and robin is a metaphor i use sometimes uh right now batman's giving
00:39:51.660 robin a bit of a noogie and it's not fun um i'd like to get back to the place where we respect each other
00:39:57.220 and we're friends with each other and yeah we're the smaller partner that's just a fact of life
00:40:01.480 but canada is sort of awesome when you think of our historical and cultural and all our accomplishments
00:40:07.780 i mean we we punched above our weight in the first world war in the second world war in korea
00:40:12.320 we were there in afghanistan because americans needed help on 9-11 we took all those like there's
00:40:18.140 so many wonderful things canada did and by the way the list of wonderful things americans do for us
00:40:24.040 is unlimited i mean let's be candid they have provided our defense for our north uh under norad
00:40:31.100 for 80 years and we have access to the world's biggest best market and and it's true what trump
00:40:40.580 says why can't american banks open up and sell mortgages to canadians why can't american cell phone
00:40:47.360 companies compete with our atrocious cell phone companies why can't we buy american dairy these are not
00:40:52.960 crazy uh requests from america and i think if we just got back to to trump is transactional he's a
00:41:01.500 deal maker and he even makes deals with people who he publicly fights with um i think he's maybe quick
00:41:09.140 to quick to insult and quick to heckle but he's also quick to patch things up uh i mean i think and it
00:41:18.040 may have to wait until pierre polly of his prime minister i think we can get things back on track
00:41:22.560 and do better than ever the fact that trump says he wants to restart the keystone excel pipeline which
00:41:27.600 would bring 800 000 barrels of canadian ethical oil a day to the u.s i mean just do the math on that
00:41:33.060 at 75 bucks a barrel that is tens of billions of dollars a year i mean just that one deal alone
00:41:39.960 the taxes from that could revive our military that one pipeline could pay for a significant i'll do the
00:41:48.640 math i'm just i don't i'd have to use a calculator to figure it out but i bet the keystone excel pipeline
00:41:53.740 alone the taxes from that the royalties from that could restart our military let's you know you know
00:42:01.040 the old saying don't get mad don't get even get ahead have you ever heard it put that way a lot of
00:42:07.500 people say don't get mad get even no no no that's right get ahead how do we get ahead as a country
00:42:13.220 how does america get ahead america's not getting ahead by tariffing its own oil imports that's not
00:42:20.320 getting ahead that's not america first and you know who's laughing opec because they say yeah we'll sell
00:42:26.600 you your oil come to us instead no no no no no that's not america first america first is by the good
00:42:32.240 stuff that's just north of the montana border is practically in america already anyhow thanks for
00:42:37.340 i appreciate you letting me have a forum to talk about these ideas i really want i really want us
00:42:42.620 to flip the script and just hit restart again you know well that's exactly what i thought when i had
00:42:48.040 a look at this book it's exactly what we need to hear right now oh so deal of a century it get this
00:42:54.000 book read this book we need it it is part of the political discourse of the of the moment of the hour
00:42:59.280 and where can people get this uh is it in stores or just amazon or where amazon it's a short book it's
00:43:05.300 just under 100 pages i wrote it pretty quick so we're selling it pretty cheap uh you can get it
00:43:09.840 on amazon or if you can remember it uh deal of the century book.com and i'm trying to do as many
00:43:17.560 america first type podcasts as i can because i i everyone was excited to go to battle for their president
00:43:25.420 right i mean but what if the the real win is to change change gears in an america first way i i
00:43:34.120 really hope to do it because you know i love canada i also love america and you know rebel news is as
00:43:39.700 pro-trump as you can get in canada is there a way to square these things and i think the answer is yes
00:43:44.760 so thank you for for giving me a chance to sound off a bit well thank you for your time ezra i know
00:43:50.000 it's precious and i know you got another interview to get to to keep promoting the book and you're
00:43:54.640 welcome here every time my friend and shalom we love you here ezra and we love rebel news well
00:44:00.120 shalom and thank you very much for your hospital you keep up the fight for freedom and we'll see you
00:44:05.220 soon ezra bye for now bye-bye it's ezra levant old friend one of the best conservative journalists
00:44:13.220 one of the best journalists out there read rebel news have a look get visit their website it's always
00:44:19.500 a pleasure to talk to ezra and it's like i said 26 years uh we've been crossing paths and it's
00:44:25.500 always a pleasure to talk to ezra and when i come back a few concluding
00:44:28.500 you
00:44:49.500 all right we're back at 10 o'clock tomorrow i've got a professor slated as my guest he's originally
00:45:09.220 from montreal he's in kazakhstan and he's got some fascinating things to say about the war in ukraine
00:45:15.300 and why we have to stop sending billions to the black hole of kiev and why this war has to be
00:45:21.740 ended and in fact is already over join me tomorrow at 10 and keep fighting keep resolving to resist and
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