Stand on Guard with David Krayden - July 06, 2024


Farage's Reform UK Fights Back Agst Globalist Landslide w⧸ GB's Jim Ferguson ｜ Stand on Guard Ep 153


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51 minutes

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165.2998

Word Count

8,499

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583

Misogynist Sentences

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Hate Speech Sentences

11


Summary

Jim Ferguson, founder and CEO of Freedom Train International, joins me to talk about the UK election results and what they mean for the future of the UK political system. He also talks about the recent visit to Canada, where he met Christine Anderson.


Transcript

00:00:00.700 Welcome back to another episode of Stand on Guard.
00:00:03.900 My special guest today is Jim Ferguson,
00:00:08.240 the founder and CEO, executive director of Freedom Train International,
00:00:13.660 and we're going to be talking about the UK election results
00:00:17.180 when we come back momentarily.
00:00:19.980 So we are in a very precarious position in this country.
00:00:23.700 We need political change, but we also need to resolve to resist.
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00:00:58.300 Just like my guest today is.
00:01:00.680 And Jim, it's so nice to see you again.
00:01:02.560 I saw you in Ottawa when you were here for a very special visit.
00:01:08.680 Christine Anderson was in town and had a chance to meet you, and it was wonderful.
00:01:13.640 And we said at some time we would do this, and I'm sorry it's taken so long to get around to it.
00:01:19.460 But it's such a pleasure to have you here.
00:01:21.780 And so much to talk about.
00:01:24.540 I promise not to take up too much of your time, but it's going to be interesting just to go through
00:01:31.040 what these results mean from the UK election.
00:01:37.080 I'm just going to briefly, for those viewers who aren't apprised,
00:01:43.020 Labour won a massive majority, 412 seats.
00:01:47.220 And Conservatives are reduced to 121.
00:01:52.360 And the remainder was sort of between parties, some of which got way more than the percentage should have allowed,
00:02:02.920 and others got way less than you would have thought they would have received.
00:02:07.020 And it's interesting.
00:02:09.500 There were five Reform MPs elected.
00:02:12.660 This is a first.
00:02:14.760 Reform did not get as many seats as the popular vote might have indicated.
00:02:21.480 But that, of course, is not any surprise.
00:02:25.380 George Galloway was defeated after winning a by-election,
00:02:28.600 which I think is interesting because he was probably one of the only independent voices in the House of Commons
00:02:36.800 prior to Neil Farage and the Reform Party coming in.
00:02:41.960 And, of course, your summation of the election, Jim, I thought was fascinating
00:02:47.340 because you had some interesting things to say about the leader of the Labour Party,
00:02:54.820 who will be the incoming Prime Minister, the new Prime Minister, Keir Starmer.
00:02:59.980 I found it fascinating.
00:03:01.780 It's just from a purely political science point of view.
00:03:06.220 Labour got two-thirds of the seats in the House of Commons, almost literally two-thirds.
00:03:12.440 And they got one-third of the popular vote.
00:03:16.420 Now, that wouldn't be possible in Canada,
00:03:19.440 which operates the same kind of parliamentary system as you do.
00:03:23.380 It's a first-past-the-post.
00:03:26.040 But to get into that kind of massive majority territory,
00:03:31.000 any party would have to have at least 40% or more.
00:03:35.640 You're only getting in the majority territory with 38% of the vote.
00:03:39.700 Yet Labour did it with 33% of the vote.
00:03:45.020 And I almost consider this to be one of the best advertisements I've ever seen
00:03:49.960 for proportional representation.
00:03:52.160 And I'm very imbeveling about proportional representations.
00:03:55.260 Sometimes I think it might be a good idea.
00:03:57.600 Other times I think it might be a bad idea.
00:03:59.840 But this certainly seems to be an indication that there's something askew,
00:04:04.580 something wrong with the way these numbers are adding up
00:04:07.980 in terms of seats in the House of Commons.
00:04:10.940 But you've said that this vote, you believe,
00:04:15.260 is not so much the embrace of British people embracing the Labour Party
00:04:22.360 as it is repudiating the Conservative Party and Richie Sunak.
00:04:27.540 Could you explain that?
00:04:29.040 Well, first of all, David, it's marvellous to actually be here on your show.
00:04:34.800 You've got a fantastic channel.
00:04:36.720 And, yeah, it was great to meet you in person in Ottawa when I went over there.
00:04:41.040 And it was nice to spend time with Christine Anderson as well, of course.
00:04:44.820 But, you know, what we've witnessed here is what's called an electoral landslide,
00:04:49.500 where there is just an incredible move to a particular political party,
00:04:54.140 in this case the Labour Party,
00:04:55.420 and the Conservatives have had an electoral wipeout.
00:04:59.480 They've never had such a disastrous election result in history.
00:05:05.060 This is the worst it's ever been.
00:05:07.480 And I think partly a lot of that is we've had a number of different prime ministers,
00:05:12.380 the last one being Richie Sunak,
00:05:13.820 who was not democratically elected by the members of the Conservative Party either.
00:05:18.280 He was installed.
00:05:20.620 But his policies and his leadership style
00:05:25.920 was very much more an administrator for the World Economic Forum and the globalists,
00:05:31.300 because the Conservative Party in the UK, like many other countries,
00:05:35.960 have this uniparty system where they've been deeply infiltrated by globalists,
00:05:41.560 people who are really sort of sold on the whole globalism idea
00:05:46.320 and not putting their own people first or their interests first.
00:05:51.860 So what we've actually witnessed here,
00:05:53.780 because Keir Starmer, his popularity is not high.
00:05:58.440 His polling as a person, as a leader, is not high.
00:06:02.880 But I do believe that the reaction to Sunak in particular,
00:06:07.260 the way that he's mishandled the whole campaign,
00:06:10.040 right from the outset, when he was involved in sort of addressing the nation in the pouring rain,
00:06:16.280 I think that gave a bit of a flavour to what was to come.
00:06:19.220 But he is a globalist.
00:06:20.880 Keir Starmer is a globalist.
00:06:23.140 Now, what's really quite serious about this is that I have,
00:06:27.300 through other people,
00:06:28.260 got connections into those who are at very senior levels within the defence establishment.
00:06:34.040 We're talking real top brass here.
00:06:37.580 So what they've been saying behind closed doors,
00:06:40.880 effectively, they would never say it publicly, of course.
00:06:43.840 But what they're saying is that Ritchie Sunak,
00:06:45.780 for the last nine months,
00:06:46.580 they've been saying Ritchie Sunak does not want to be a wartime prime minister.
00:06:51.580 And when he called the early election on July the 4th,
00:06:55.280 that was a clear indication that he was making a bolt straight for the exit door.
00:06:59.740 And there is a deep concern because conscription has been actively talked about in the UK now for the last few months.
00:07:08.420 They're talking about calling up young men and women, 18-year-olds, to military service.
00:07:14.180 They've threatened that if they refuse, they could be arrested.
00:07:17.880 So that happens usually when there's a prelude to war.
00:07:22.580 They haven't given up on Ukraine.
00:07:24.240 They haven't stopped the attacks on Russia, whether that's political attacks,
00:07:31.060 whether that's, you know, sort of the kind of things that you read about in the media.
00:07:36.300 That whole narrative about Russia moving its borders closer to NATO, for example,
00:07:41.160 is a complete misnomer.
00:07:43.400 NATO has, in fact, been moving their borders closer to Russia.
00:07:46.720 So the whole Ukraine thing is about, in my opinion, about to ignite again.
00:07:50.700 And I think we've seen Mark Rutte, the former Prime Minister of the Netherlands,
00:07:56.480 now being installed to replace Stoltenberg as the NATO commander, the NATO leader.
00:08:02.940 And I think it's now just a matter of time before we actually see boots on the ground.
00:08:07.620 And I think that the timing of that might be the autumn of this year.
00:08:12.040 So that's something to watch very carefully.
00:08:14.740 I'm not a pacifist, but I don't like unnecessary wars, in particular bankers' wars.
00:08:19.820 And I see the corruption that's been taking place in Ukraine,
00:08:23.140 the amounts of money that Canada has sent, the United States, Britain, other European nations.
00:08:29.200 While some of these Kiev MPs are running around in Ferraris with mansions,
00:08:34.800 the corruption is off the charts.
00:08:36.920 It's been widely discussed the fact that they can't become members of NATO
00:08:40.940 because of the problems with the corruption as well.
00:08:43.380 So we are seeing and witnessing something that's truly fundamental.
00:08:46.940 And I've spent probably the last four weeks going across four different nations.
00:08:51.520 I've been in Geneva, Switzerland, the Netherlands, Denmark, back to London,
00:08:57.280 and of course Ireland as well.
00:08:59.440 And what I'm learning is that there is this real buildup of people
00:09:04.080 who are really concerned about where their national governments are taking them.
00:09:09.060 The globalist and infiltrated governments are looking to take them.
00:09:12.000 Most people don't want war.
00:09:13.340 Most people recognize that ordinary people, regardless of whatever country they're from,
00:09:18.300 are just people.
00:09:19.180 They're just like us.
00:09:20.360 But it's our national leaders that are pushing it.
00:09:22.480 Of course, they're never the ones to fix bayonets and go in with their rifles.
00:09:27.140 They always send other people's sons and daughters to die in these battlefields.
00:09:30.840 And I'm very much opposed to that.
00:09:32.960 Well, we're on the same page there, Jim.
00:09:34.960 I am very much opposed to any war with Russia, especially over Ukraine.
00:09:42.940 I think it's the most corrupt state in Europe.
00:09:46.240 It's dominated by corrupt politicians, including the president,
00:09:51.420 who really has no legitimacy right now.
00:09:54.020 He did not run for re-election.
00:09:55.800 But Volodymyr Zelensky is one of the most corrupt politicians on the face of the earth.
00:10:01.020 And we are pouring billions of dollars into this black hole of Kiev.
00:10:05.400 That's how I describe this process.
00:10:07.920 So that what?
00:10:08.960 We can have a war with Russia that will escalate inevitably into a nuclear conflict?
00:10:14.900 This is insanity.
00:10:16.020 And there's no question Britain was on the road to war.
00:10:20.240 This talk about national service and conscription so that they can have an army to fight Russia
00:10:25.880 is just as insane as France talking about putting an army together to fight Russia.
00:10:32.500 The last time, of course, France tried to fight Russia,
00:10:35.560 it ended up in the debacle of Napoleon's retreat in 1812.
00:10:40.340 So France hasn't had a lot of success with wars in the 20th or 21st century.
00:10:46.440 So I thought that was nuts.
00:10:47.980 But I looked at this election again this morning,
00:10:51.300 and I thought one way to describe it,
00:10:53.980 and of course we both share a monarchy in Canada and the U.S.,
00:10:58.560 and we always like to say that the king is dead, long live the king.
00:11:02.680 This to me was the uniparty is dead, long live the uniparty.
00:11:07.460 Because we've destroyed the Conservative Party, but the Labour Party has taken its place.
00:11:13.940 And as you're saying, it looks like they've got the same policies,
00:11:17.900 that they're going to be gearing up the country for conscription, for a war.
00:11:22.980 And here was Richie Sunak talking just days before the vote
00:11:26.580 about how he was going to take away people's driver's licenses and bank accounts
00:11:32.800 if they resist the conscription.
00:11:34.780 What kind of insanity is that?
00:11:36.760 I mean, obviously, it was like he wanted to lose,
00:11:39.340 and perhaps you said it at the very beginning here,
00:11:42.140 he really didn't want to win this.
00:11:43.600 He didn't want to be the prime minister,
00:11:44.900 and he did everything possible to lose this election.
00:11:51.600 But do you think Britain is out of step with the rest of Europe?
00:11:54.960 Because we had the European Union elections a couple of weeks ago.
00:11:58.320 Overwhelmingly, we saw, and I won't use the word or phrase, far-right parties.
00:12:04.160 I call them conservative populist parties.
00:12:08.380 Overwhelmingly, we're victors.
00:12:09.800 And in France last weekend, we saw the same thing happening.
00:12:13.420 And I think this weekend, we're going to see Marine Le Pen's party take the grand share of the vote.
00:12:19.920 And not because they are some sort of racist or fascist party,
00:12:24.080 but because they offer a more populist view and a more sensible view in terms of not wanting a war with Russia.
00:12:31.000 But is the UK out of step with the rest of Europe right now?
00:12:34.180 Well, they are in regards to that.
00:12:37.400 But, I mean, one of the things, one of the big takeaways is that the Conservatives were polling a poor third
00:12:43.260 in practically every constituency.
00:12:46.060 Reform UK were coming a good second.
00:12:49.500 Now, for example, if you put these things into context,
00:12:53.240 Keir Starmer, the Labour Party, got 4 million votes.
00:12:57.340 Well, Reform UK, sorry, my apologies, it's the other way around.
00:13:00.600 Now, the Labour Party got 3.5 million votes, but Reform UK got 4 million.
00:13:06.640 So the first-past-the-post system is a hard one for the smaller parties to get through.
00:13:11.460 But I would watch Reform UK very, very closely now that Nigel Farage is back in as leader.
00:13:19.260 Because even just a few weeks ago, it was predicted that they would absolutely not get any seats.
00:13:24.600 When he took the leadership back, we witnessed a firestorm of activity within the media,
00:13:31.600 within social media, online and all over.
00:13:34.460 And really what he did was he captured the heart and the mood of the country again.
00:13:38.640 A little bit similar to what he did with the Brexit party that he created,
00:13:43.980 and which I was a parliamentary candidate with in Europe and in Westminster.
00:13:47.260 So, if he'd had a bit longer, there was another aspect to Richie Sinek calling a July 4th election,
00:13:54.060 because they knew as soon as Nigel kind of get back into the driving seat again,
00:14:00.340 he would ignite the country behind him.
00:14:02.700 But I think that come 2029, they've now got five members of Parliament,
00:14:08.080 and Nigel is one of the best orators and public debaters you could ever meet.
00:14:11.980 Even before I got involved with him and the Brexit party,
00:14:16.780 I used to watch him running circles around Juncker and all these other Europhiles in the European Parliament.
00:14:22.480 There was really nobody that could stand against him.
00:14:25.020 Now, he's gone into Westminster.
00:14:27.380 It's going to be lively.
00:14:28.720 It's going to be interesting.
00:14:30.680 In many ways, I'm sorry that George Galloway didn't get in.
00:14:33.600 I like George Galloway.
00:14:34.560 He's a fellow Scot.
00:14:35.820 He's an anti-globalist.
00:14:37.100 I don't agree with all of his points of view, but he is somebody that speaks his mind.
00:14:43.780 And he does say what he means, and he means what he says.
00:14:47.040 But I would watch reform, because what I think might well happen is,
00:14:51.320 Sir Keir Starmer has now been installed as Prime Minister,
00:14:55.740 and he's constantly talking about changing the country.
00:14:59.620 And that sends chills down my spine,
00:15:02.120 because I'm not sure exactly what change he's talking about.
00:15:06.160 I don't anticipate it to be good change.
00:15:09.140 If he's going to push for conscription,
00:15:11.320 if he's going to send young men and women to die in the battlefields of Ukraine against Russia,
00:15:15.900 you're talking about body bags.
00:15:18.500 Now, he may think that he's going to get away with that.
00:15:21.360 I think the country may have another view on that as well.
00:15:25.200 And I don't think people fully appreciate what they've done by electing him in
00:15:30.440 and his party with such a large majority.
00:15:33.160 But you mentioned something earlier on.
00:15:34.920 I'd like to come back to that, David, before I go on to France and the rest of Europe.
00:15:38.840 And that was that did Ritchie Sunnick deliberately lose?
00:15:42.340 I have no doubt that he did.
00:15:44.100 And I think he, for example, at the Remembrance Day parades,
00:15:47.700 you know, he disrespected, he went back for a meeting in London
00:15:50.680 that he could have done over Zoom.
00:15:52.000 He should have stayed there.
00:15:53.400 That caused great upset, not even just within the political realms,
00:15:58.660 but within people who have served their country, veterans, people whose families served
00:16:03.980 in World War I, World War II, and other conflicts around the world.
00:16:07.540 That was a highly disrespectful thing for him to do.
00:16:10.620 And I wouldn't put it past him to have deliberately destroyed the Conservative Party
00:16:15.540 so that he could hand the baton over to his World Economic Forum colleague,
00:16:20.140 Keir Starmer, knowing that they were probably going to get a massive landlide,
00:16:24.420 which means that they can really do whatever they want to do now.
00:16:27.740 They are in power with a huge majority.
00:16:29.960 And I think we're going to see a push towards war.
00:16:35.080 I have a horrible feeling that we're going to see that kicking off quite soon.
00:16:39.180 Now, Marine Le Pen, that's another completely, that came out just like a bolt out of the blue.
00:16:46.040 She is polling incredibly highly.
00:16:48.180 Macron panicked.
00:16:49.120 He's called for early elections.
00:16:51.700 And unless they cheat, I would imagine,
00:16:54.200 I do imagine that Marine Le Pen is going to do very, very well.
00:16:57.980 She could be the next president of France.
00:17:01.240 And she is also a very powerful orator.
00:17:04.520 She delivers speeches incredibly well.
00:17:06.360 She's also very experienced.
00:17:08.540 She's been in this business a long time now.
00:17:10.780 But we're also seeing similar people, Victor Orban in Hungary.
00:17:14.940 We're seeing other nations whose people are very worried about this direction
00:17:20.480 that the globalists are trying to take us in.
00:17:22.800 Most people I've spoken to in Denmark, in the Netherlands, in Switzerland,
00:17:27.060 in France, in Germany, and Ireland.
00:17:29.900 They just want to live their lives in peace.
00:17:32.020 But we're also seeing a very similar pattern taking place,
00:17:35.360 in particular in Ireland at the moment,
00:17:37.080 with massive illegal immigration that is literally destroying whole communities.
00:17:43.120 I mean, the Irish population is only 3 million,
00:17:45.640 but it's sitting at 5 million right now.
00:17:48.020 And that has increased by that number within the last four to five years.
00:17:51.760 And that is nearly all illegal immigrants that have flooded into the country.
00:17:56.140 So we're seeing a period of chaos coming, great destabilization.
00:18:00.840 And Freedom Train International is getting people together in multiple nations now
00:18:05.580 with multiple thousands of members in the United States, Canada, of course.
00:18:09.460 Canada is a huge supporter of the work that we're doing.
00:18:11.840 And I think it's because they led the way with the freedom movement.
00:18:16.680 So there's everything to watch.
00:18:18.500 It's all happening right now.
00:18:20.080 I think you're right about leading the way with the freedom movement.
00:18:22.840 I've heard that from so many Americans as well.
00:18:25.160 And I did not expect Canadians to be that unwilling to serve the government
00:18:31.900 because Canada has traditionally been very acquiescent to government control.
00:18:37.600 And that was a definite sea change in public attitudes in Canada.
00:18:43.880 But as you know, we have a globalist prime minister in this country named Justin Trudeau,
00:18:49.080 who seems to be very much a globalist in the WEF frame of mind.
00:18:57.740 And I'm at times worried about Pierpoli, the Conservative Party leader,
00:19:01.900 because he is standing arm in arm with Justin Trudeau on Ukraine.
00:19:05.480 And he is reluctant to go with what most of the grassroots conservatives in this country feel,
00:19:11.800 which is we've got to stop this war.
00:19:13.960 We've got to stop giving away billions of dollars
00:19:16.300 because our own national defense is literally falling to pieces.
00:19:21.160 And we have no ammunition left.
00:19:22.820 We've given away all our tanks.
00:19:24.420 We have nothing left to defend our own country.
00:19:28.000 Lots to give Ukraine, but nothing our own country.
00:19:30.240 But I have been optimistic also because Pierpoli has said on numerous occasions,
00:19:37.400 and I've been present at many of these at these occasions,
00:19:40.520 when he said he will forbid his caucus members to go to the WEF meetings in Davos.
00:19:49.280 And of course, conservatives in the past have been very willing to go to Davos
00:19:53.880 with the World Economic Forum to become part of that whole thing.
00:19:57.260 So I'm literally hoping against hope that Polly Ev is serious about this,
00:20:03.080 and we don't have a uniparty in Canada.
00:20:06.020 But I have a clip here I'd really, really like you to see,
00:20:09.640 because if I saw anything that indicated to me that this Keir Starmer
00:20:15.800 is even more dangerous potentially than Justin Trudeau,
00:20:21.040 this clip, I think, indicates it.
00:20:23.180 I'd like to ask you quickly, you have to choose now between Davos or Westminster.
00:20:28.540 Davos.
00:20:29.360 Why?
00:20:30.000 Because Westminster is too constrained.
00:20:33.260 And, you know, it's closed and we're not having meaning.
00:20:38.120 Once you get out of Westminster, whether it's Davos or anywhere else,
00:20:40.360 you actually engage with people that you can see working with in the future.
00:20:46.120 Westminster is just a tribal shouting play.
00:20:52.200 So is this guy working for the World Economic Forum or for Britain's?
00:21:00.920 Clearly his loyalty is very much in question.
00:21:05.300 I just found this outrageous.
00:21:06.340 Yes, I mean, I remember when that clip came out, I think I reposted it as well.
00:21:13.020 But, I mean, if you needed a clear indication of where his loyalties lay, that's it.
00:21:17.580 And he was being honest about that.
00:21:19.420 For once, he was being really honest.
00:21:21.120 And he said, yeah, Davos is where it's at.
00:21:23.420 So I think he is a globalist.
00:21:25.740 Unfortunately, and certainly in the UK, both the Conservative Party was Conservative in name only.
00:21:31.400 They were no longer Conservative in terms of policy.
00:21:34.640 Traditional, good, strong on defence, tough on crime, supporting law and order, you know, good education systems, getting our children properly taught.
00:21:43.460 Those were the sort of the core beliefs and values of true Conservatives.
00:21:46.680 Probably the same most of the world as well.
00:21:48.960 But they've completely changed their focus.
00:21:51.160 And then you've got the Labour Party, which is a completely different entity to what Sir Keir Hardy, another fellow Scot of mine, started back in Glasgow, back in the day.
00:22:02.460 And, you know, if he came back to see what was happening now, he would be horrified.
00:22:07.000 So in the Brexit Party, for example, there was about 40 to 45 percent of the people involved in Brexit who were actually from the traditional left, which surprised me.
00:22:18.240 I have to say it was a bit of a wake-up call for me because I suddenly found myself sitting around the table.
00:22:23.440 I thought it would be a lot of Conservatives or a lot of United Kingdom Independence Party people.
00:22:29.480 And they, of course, were there.
00:22:31.160 But there was a lot of people from the traditional Labour left who were staunch Brexiteers.
00:22:36.040 And that's why I nearly won my seat.
00:22:37.660 I stood in Barnsley East as the candidate in the previous election in 2019 and came top of all the people in the country.
00:22:48.180 Myself and my colleague came first and second in the entire country.
00:22:52.540 So my team were from the traditional left, but they embraced me.
00:22:57.540 They knew that I was a former Conservative.
00:22:59.360 I was right or centre.
00:23:00.360 But they were a great bunch of people.
00:23:02.480 So I think sometimes left and right can come together.
00:23:05.260 It was an important lesson for me to learn.
00:23:06.940 But when people talk about far left or far right, that was just a complete piece of nonsense.
00:23:13.740 And they used to laugh in the Brexit party about being called far right, especially when they were left of centre.
00:23:19.220 But most of them were very moderate.
00:23:21.040 I'm a pretty moderate kind of guy.
00:23:22.700 I'm pretty much down the line with most things.
00:23:25.260 I'm a little bit right of centre, I would say, in some aspects.
00:23:28.520 But I get along with people that don't necessarily always agree with me or I would agree with them.
00:23:34.140 I think the important part and part of this and what we're doing in Freedom Train is that we're bringing people together to find that common ground of living in peace, having politicians who are principled and who will put their own countrymen and women first.
00:23:51.220 And I remember when just before I went over to see you in Ottawa, I'd actually been across in the States just about a week or so before that.
00:24:00.480 And I was on stage and I was actually asked if I would lead the Pledge of Allegiance to the American flag.
00:24:09.120 And I agreed to do that, you know.
00:24:11.480 And I'm not an American.
00:24:12.460 I'll probably never be an American.
00:24:14.980 But the point is, hand on heart, I led the Pledge of Allegiance and everybody recited it behind me that was in the audience.
00:24:21.320 There was probably about 300 people there.
00:24:23.300 And although I'm not an American, I still felt that deep sort of respect to them as the American people and to the flag itself because they are our allies, just like Canada is our ally.
00:24:35.780 And I remember coming from a long line of military service, the Canadians who sacrificed their lives and who stood with us in the war, in World War I and World War II in particular.
00:24:49.440 And, you know, you're right to say the Canadians are a very peaceful people.
00:24:53.460 They're actually lovely people.
00:24:54.860 I love the Canadian people.
00:24:57.420 But, you know, there is a truly there is a real backbone there.
00:25:02.340 And when I say they led the world, they really did.
00:25:05.400 They were the beacon to the entire planet when the Freedom Convoy stood up in that principled, peaceful way and said, we do not comply.
00:25:15.980 We're not going along with this.
00:25:17.220 And, of course, we saw what happened.
00:25:19.040 The police brutality, the horse, the batting charges, the tear gas, the things that happened to them.
00:25:25.720 It also happened in the state of Victoria in Australia.
00:25:28.580 They were deeply brutalized as well.
00:25:30.540 But I think Canada possibly had it worse, if I'm being honest.
00:25:34.460 But, you know, you guys led the way.
00:25:36.440 And that's why when I launched Freedom Train International, which is still in its infancy, we're only a few months old, although it was 15 months in the planning.
00:25:44.280 It took that long to build that network with friends in Canada and America and Europe and Australia and New Zealand and, of course, the UK.
00:25:51.560 But, you know, you saw that power building there and Canada was seen as the leaders of that freedom movement.
00:26:01.540 So when we launched at the beginning of this year, we did it on the anniversary of the Canadian freedom movement and the truckers who stood up for them, their freedoms and for their communities.
00:26:13.700 So I have a deep respect for you guys.
00:26:16.740 And I think that this is where I'm now traveling to a lot of other countries, in particular across Europe right now.
00:26:23.760 I'm probably going to be heading to France and Germany and possibly Norway and then Sweden.
00:26:28.280 So I'm the reason I'm going physically to these nations is because I'm meeting the leaders of existing freedom movements and organizations.
00:26:37.280 I'm explaining to them what we're doing.
00:26:39.620 And to date, every single person I've spoken to who has got a freedom movement or a community together is now coming on board with us.
00:26:49.400 They're going to be in leadership positions.
00:26:51.320 They're going to be unburdened with all the administration.
00:26:54.580 We're going to take care of all of that.
00:26:56.400 And we're going to be building hubs and local community networks.
00:26:58.800 So we're operating now at the strategic, tactical and operational levels across multiple nations now.
00:27:04.760 And I'd love to get back to Canada because I've got so many friends there, people that I haven't had a chance.
00:27:10.960 I've built up a great relationship with, but I haven't actually had a chance to meet yet.
00:27:14.920 So there is work to be done in Europe.
00:27:18.200 And then there is work to be done across the pond in the United States and Canada as well.
00:27:25.120 So there's a lot for me to do.
00:27:26.960 This is going to be a very busy year.
00:27:28.240 It already is.
00:27:29.180 But I'm very grateful to see you again, be on your show.
00:27:34.200 And just to say, you call it out.
00:27:36.980 You call the truth.
00:27:37.820 And we are definitely very closely aligned on all of that.
00:27:41.700 So I pay tribute to you and what you're doing.
00:27:44.140 It's a great piece of paper.
00:27:44.880 Well, thank you.
00:27:45.960 And we will have all the information that people require to support you and the Freedom Free International in the description.
00:27:53.780 I think it's an interesting concept because you're transnational, but you're anti-globalist.
00:27:59.380 And I think that you're reaching out to like-minded people.
00:28:03.020 But not only that, you're reaching out to like-minded democracies.
00:28:06.500 Because one of the conundrums for me is how the English-speaking world, which used, as Winston Churchill described, the English-speaking peoples as the most democratic from Great Britain, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the United States.
00:28:24.040 All of these countries have a very similar tradition, a very similar heritage.
00:28:31.180 They were all originally colonized by Great Britain.
00:28:34.140 But they inherited those British concepts of fair play, rule of law, democratic process, and freedom of speech, which, of course, is being eradicated at a huge rate, at an escalating rate in all of these countries.
00:28:51.800 Right now, Canada is facing the worst censorship bill in the democratic world, called the Online Harms Act, Bill C-63.
00:28:59.900 And if we don't stop this thing, and if it's passed into law and not repeal, Canada will be no better than some petty dictatorship.
00:29:08.880 But I wanted to go back, just for a minute, to a couple of clips here, including one of Richie Sunak, which I think is interesting.
00:29:18.840 And, of course, the good news is reform has made some strides forward here.
00:29:24.300 And that, I think that Nigel Perrari's riding the line.
00:29:35.160 National service will be compulsory.
00:29:36.060 The military option will be something that people choose to do.
00:29:39.220 Oh, I see.
00:29:39.460 So how will you make people do it?
00:29:41.780 Sorry?
00:29:42.200 If national service is going to be compulsory, how will you make people do it?
00:29:45.280 Well, you'll have a set of sanctions and incentives, and we will look at the models that are existing around Europe.
00:29:49.760 Like what?
00:29:50.180 To get the appropriate mix of those.
00:29:51.480 There's a range of different options that exist.
00:29:53.080 For example?
00:29:53.420 There's all sorts of things that people do across Europe, whether that's looking at driving licences, other access to finance, all sorts of other things.
00:30:01.040 The right thing to do is to allow...
00:30:02.100 Access to finance?
00:30:03.200 Yes.
00:30:03.400 So if people don't want to do national service, what, you're going to take their bank cards away?
00:30:07.780 No, no, there's access.
00:30:09.880 There's lots of different models around Europe.
00:30:12.860 There's lots of different models around Europe.
00:30:14.220 This is being done in multiple countries in Europe.
00:30:15.920 I don't doubt it.
00:30:16.220 I'm just asking you what you think.
00:30:17.180 So there's a range of things, and we will have a royal commission look at all of those, come back to the government,
00:30:21.760 and recommend what the appropriate mix of incentives and sanctions is.
00:30:25.060 My God, a royal commission.
00:30:31.740 That, to me, that, to me, says it all.
00:30:35.060 This is a man who's begging to lose the election.
00:30:38.000 I'm going to take your bank cards away.
00:30:40.040 I'm going to take your driver's license.
00:30:41.780 Don't vote for me, please.
00:30:43.000 But, of course, if there's any consolation for Richie Sunak, his successor is going to be just as bad.
00:30:50.540 But I have one more clip I wanted to show as well, because Nigel Farage, who I've really admired since the whole Brexit victory,
00:30:59.520 which I think was the beginning of a turnaround, and it was perhaps it's been abrogated to some degree by this election,
00:31:08.420 and certainly I was hoping for a few more seats for Nigel and the party.
00:31:13.160 But he describes in this interview how his inspiration for the Reform Party name came from Canada.
00:31:22.160 And I worked for a member of Parliament who was one of the early leading proponents of the Reform Party.
00:31:29.940 He was a Reform Party member of Parliament.
00:31:31.720 And I worked at the House of Commons during those early days of the Reform Party, being the official opposition.
00:31:39.760 It was the only party I ever felt good about being a member of.
00:31:43.960 I haven't belonged to a political party in probably 15 or 20 years.
00:31:48.260 As a journalist, I don't think anybody should be a member of a political party.
00:31:52.800 But in those days, I was definitely fighting for national defense through what I thought was the only party that had a coherent program.
00:32:00.460 But I just I just wanted to share this interview.
00:32:04.580 The stars happened to a party called Reform in Canada some years ago.
00:32:11.140 Everyone said, oh, no, Reform will split the vote.
00:32:14.740 Preston Manning's a right wing nut job.
00:32:17.140 You know, all the same kind of criticisms.
00:32:19.520 And in the end, Reform won.
00:32:21.300 And as you know, Stephen Harper proved to be a very good prime minister in many ways of Canada,
00:32:26.560 having first been elected as a Reform MP and then effectively doing a reverse takeover of the very tired and increasingly progressive Conservative Party.
00:32:36.600 I am trying to do something very similar to what Reform did in Canada all those years, 30 years ago.
00:32:43.280 And to be honest with you, it's one of the reasons I chose the name Reform UK, seeing inspiration from what happened when common sense got back into Canadian politics.
00:32:54.720 Sadly, now long disappeared under Trudeau.
00:32:58.780 So we're going to get as well.
00:33:00.580 You know, I mean, I you know, we're going to get millions of votes.
00:33:03.300 We're going to get we're going to win those seats.
00:33:05.940 But I'm going to do this differently.
00:33:07.300 This is not going to be just about what we can do in Parliament.
00:33:13.060 We are going to build this is my ambition.
00:33:15.640 We're going to build a mass movement for common sense.
00:33:19.200 And we're going to build it not just because we object to what the progressives have done to us, but because we believe in family, community and country.
00:33:29.640 Yeah, so my question there, after listening to this, I'm saying, you know, fantastic.
00:33:37.940 I'm glad you were inspired by Canada.
00:33:40.000 But, of course, we're already hearing even from members of the old Canadian Alliance Party, which, of course, was the was the second incarnation of Reform before it merged into the Conservative Party of Canada today.
00:33:52.640 We're already hearing, like, Stockwell Day came out with a post on X today.
00:33:59.060 Of course, Stockwell Day was the one of the leaders of the very first the Canadian Alliance Party was he was the official opposition leader in Canada for quite a few years.
00:34:09.640 He's saying it's time to unite the right in Britain.
00:34:13.760 And, of course, we heard that time after time after time in Canada.
00:34:16.800 And all that meant was the Reform Party being absorbed back into the Conservative Party didn't exactly happen that way, because I think it'd be the strength of the Stephen Harper's leadership.
00:34:29.620 But do you think it's possible in the UK for the Reform Party to become the true small C Conservative Party and to absorb the membership of the Conservative Party that is truly conservative?
00:34:44.460 Can it go the other way, in other words, instead of the establishment Conservative Party simply absorbing the Reform Party and saying, forget it, you're never going to make government, so just come back to the fold?
00:34:59.520 Do you think it's possible for Nigel Ferrari, because of the strength of his convictions, because of the power of his oratory, and because of the fact he actually believes in what he says,
00:35:11.700 do you think he can capture what is left of the Conservative Party and become the dominant right-of-centre party in the UK, the dominant populist Conservative Party?
00:35:27.160 I absolutely do.
00:35:28.840 And, you know, there's a clip of me at the church in Dyerfield, I think it was the day after the election in 2019, when I was thanking all the supporters, giving a little bit of an update.
00:35:38.500 And I left a clue, because I knew what the new party was going to be.
00:35:42.040 I was actually deeply recruited into the Brexit Party.
00:35:44.580 I was involved in some of the vetting and the screening of people that wanted to come into the party.
00:35:51.100 I was a parliamentary candidate at that point, but I was leading teams in London and I was travelling all over the country.
00:35:56.100 So I knew, and I left a clue, and I said, perhaps what this country really needs is reform.
00:36:03.100 And that's still out there.
00:36:06.040 So I knew what it was going to become.
00:36:08.380 That was in December 2019.
00:36:11.620 Nigel Farage, if anybody thinks he's going to be content to be elected to Parliament and leave it at that, listen, they cancelled his bank accounts.
00:36:21.120 The establishment attacked him.
00:36:22.840 When he wasn't even really that political, he was the, you know, he was the vice president of reform at that point.
00:36:29.280 It was under different leadership, not very good leadership, but it was under different leadership.
00:36:32.940 He wasn't really that active.
00:36:34.740 He was on GB News.
00:36:36.220 He was quite happy doing the programs that he was doing.
00:36:38.960 Then they attacked him and they cancelled his bank accounts.
00:36:41.840 And that really provoked him into doing something.
00:36:44.880 And he's not the kind of guy that sits back and takes it.
00:36:47.820 He is a fighter.
00:36:49.180 And I completely understand why.
00:36:51.040 So what he's now going to do, he's now got himself and four other colleagues, so five of them, into the British Parliament.
00:36:59.660 The Conservative Party has had the worst electoral wipeout ever.
00:37:05.800 They have been massacred.
00:37:07.900 And those that are left are hanging on by the smallest margins.
00:37:13.480 Even the Chancellor, former Chancellor, Jeremy Hunt, only got through with about 800 votes.
00:37:20.880 And they're all in the same camp.
00:37:23.440 Now, what's really interesting is that when you break down the seat statistical data,
00:37:29.620 you will see that reform came a very good second in practically every seat in the country,
00:37:37.020 with the Conservatives a very poor third.
00:37:39.460 Now, that tells me that they have fractured, they've disintegrated, they are on the downward curve.
00:37:48.480 And I think what Nigel Farage is going to do between now and 2029 is he's going to capture that country.
00:37:57.260 He's not done.
00:37:58.380 He is now going to use the platform that he's got and he is going to build that support up.
00:38:02.860 And he is going to unite the right.
00:38:05.480 So the United Kingdom Independence Party, the ADF, the Heritage Party, all those other sort of centre-right parties now have a beacon of hope.
00:38:16.740 And I think if they all work together and truly unite the right, then it will be a landslide victory for him.
00:38:25.760 And he could very well be the next Prime Minister.
00:38:28.000 Because what we're talking about, what you showed in those clips, is the direction of travel that Keir Starmer and his globalist movement are going to take us.
00:38:36.940 They're taking us to war.
00:38:38.760 Ritchie Sinek was preparing the way before him.
00:38:41.320 These are globalists.
00:38:42.360 They do not care about our young men and women.
00:38:45.080 They will send them to be slaughtered to make a point with Vladimir Putin.
00:38:48.620 And by the way, if anybody wants to really know why they hate Vladimir Putin so much, it was because he was a member of the World Economic Forum Young Leaders.
00:38:57.360 And he learned all their dark secrets and they thought they had him on side.
00:39:02.880 And then when they said, we want you to sacrifice Mother Russia on the altar of globalism, he said no.
00:39:09.720 And he went back because he is a nationalist.
00:39:12.280 He is a patriot for Russia.
00:39:13.700 And I have to say, there's a lot of truth to that.
00:39:19.880 That's why they dislike him so much.
00:39:21.700 So they want the resources.
00:39:23.580 They want the power.
00:39:25.100 And Russia, being the size of the country and the nation that it is, is a major obstacle to the globalist New World Order.
00:39:32.560 So China, of course, is playing a big geopolitical part in all of this.
00:39:37.540 But the West is weak.
00:39:39.120 And they know that they're weak.
00:39:40.320 They're weak because they keep pushing trans ideology.
00:39:42.700 They're disintegrating families.
00:39:44.900 They are attacking the family unit with all this kind of nonsense.
00:39:48.840 And that is weakening us.
00:39:50.720 And there are those that think that the World Economic Forum and the globalists are actually quite pro-China because of the way they have their credit scoring system.
00:40:00.420 If you say anything about the state, you get docked a certain amount of points.
00:40:04.720 Then doors won't open for you at the supermarket.
00:40:06.780 You can't get on board a train.
00:40:07.960 That's the kind of system that Justin Trudeau celebrates and has openly admired in Canada.
00:40:14.560 You have a tyrant in your parliament and in your government.
00:40:20.040 And Chrystia Freeland, his deputy, is a senior board member of the World Economic Forum as well.
00:40:25.940 So you guys have got a big problem over there.
00:40:28.860 Yeah.
00:40:29.460 Yes, yes, indeed.
00:40:31.800 I've said for quite some time, I think NATO is disintegrating.
00:40:35.260 I used to write talking points for NATO.
00:40:38.520 I was over in Bosnia when NATO decided to change or find a new mission because, of course, the Cold War was over and they had to find something to do to justify their continued existence.
00:40:48.460 I think NATO should have folded at the end of the Soviet Union.
00:40:52.980 And when the Warsaw Pact disbanded, I think NATO should have disbanded.
00:40:56.620 It's way past its shelf life.
00:40:58.540 I don't know what it's doing out there anymore except fomenting conflict with Russia, except gambling, the high stakes poker with the fate of the world.
00:41:08.100 And I think if NATO wants a war with Russia, it's going to have to have some better arguments than it currently does.
00:41:16.480 And I think you can see NATO splintering and literally falling apart before your eyes right now as Hungary goes one way, as France is saying.
00:41:23.560 The French people are saying no.
00:41:24.820 But, you know, you've said a couple of times during this interview that you are seriously concerned that Starmer is going to take Britain into war with Russia.
00:41:35.260 Can't he do it alone?
00:41:36.580 If the alliance continues to disintegrate and the support amongst other NATO member nations is just simply not there.
00:41:45.200 Can't he take Britain into war alone?
00:41:47.480 Well, what would happen, because the way the NATO, and you'll know this as well, David, the Article 5 would be triggered if there is any kind of attack on any NATO member.
00:41:59.880 And I think they've almost been trying to goad Russia into doing that.
00:42:04.400 But what Russia is saying is Ukraine is not a NATO member.
00:42:07.060 If you put boots on the ground in Ukraine, we've seen what's happened to the Abrams tanks.
00:42:13.100 We've seen what's happened to the Challenger tanks from Britain.
00:42:15.700 They've been destroyed.
00:42:17.480 And any forces that go in from Britain or anybody else into fight Russia in Ukraine are going to be considered legitimate targets.
00:42:27.400 We're going to see body bags building up.
00:42:29.760 And I don't want to see that.
00:42:31.200 I don't think it's our business to be in there.
00:42:34.100 But that could put massive pressure on him if he tries to force conscription on people in this country.
00:42:42.060 He could end up having a civil war situation.
00:42:44.360 And all it takes is 3% of any population in any country to get serious.
00:42:51.240 And no police force, no military will stop them.
00:42:54.020 That was evidenced by the revolution that took place in America for the War of Independence.
00:42:58.240 It was only 3% of Americans that actually fought against the British Empire at that point.
00:43:04.060 And they won.
00:43:05.960 Well, that's true.
00:43:07.340 And as former UN weapons inspector Scott Ritter likes to say,
00:43:12.560 a million people came out in 1982 to Central Park to protest nuclear war, potential nuclear war.
00:43:20.680 It seems to be the last thing on most politicians' minds today.
00:43:24.780 You talk about when we are closer to nuclear war now than we were during the Cuban Missile Crisis,
00:43:31.400 or at least at any time since the Cuban Missile Crisis of October 1962.
00:43:37.120 And I don't think the politicians who are leading us seem to live in a perpetual state of delusion.
00:43:43.480 And I've heard other commentators say this.
00:43:46.500 I said this a couple of months back.
00:43:48.200 I said it's like they're living in a lie.
00:43:50.680 They just don't seem to get the reality of the world they're living in.
00:43:56.000 We are encroaching upon, right, Ukraine cannot be a member of NATO.
00:44:01.200 We cannot continue to fool ourselves into thinking that the invasion of Ukraine was somehow completely unprovoked by the West and NATO.
00:44:10.340 We had nothing to do with this at all.
00:44:11.920 And no matter what we do, it's all going to work out somehow.
00:44:15.900 So I think we need to continue to sound the alarm that we are very, very close to nuclear war.
00:44:24.980 But it's never inevitable.
00:44:27.140 Nuclear war has never been inevitable.
00:44:29.160 And we can still fight it.
00:44:30.800 But we need, I think, people to realize how dangerous these times are that we're living in.
00:44:36.760 And if people aren't aware of that, and as you say, 3%, if we can get 3% of the population to rise up and say, no, we are not going to march to our deaths in a nuclear catastrophe on the battlefields of Ukraine.
00:44:52.840 And we are not going to allow NATO to convince us that the future lies in perpetual war.
00:45:00.820 I think we have, I think, civilization and I think common sense conservatives have a chance.
00:45:09.680 And I think we can bank on that.
00:45:11.340 But we need organizations like yours as Freedom Train International to continue to fight for those rights and to fight for that truth.
00:45:21.200 And the thing I admire, I think, most about what you're doing is you emphasize freedom of speech.
00:45:26.960 Because what I tell my audience every day is that if we don't have freedom of speech in the U.K., in Canada, in the United States, in Australia, in New Zealand, we don't have freedom.
00:45:38.660 We don't have democracy.
00:45:40.060 We are no better than some tin pot dictatorship.
00:45:43.860 And thank you, Jim, for fighting for free speech.
00:45:46.740 Because without it, there is no freedom.
00:45:51.200 Yeah, well, I mean, it's absolutely true.
00:45:52.920 And, of course, I very much agree and thank you for saying the thing you said.
00:45:57.300 And one of the other things that we need to be watching very closely is the next big event, which is coming up in America with the U.S. elections.
00:46:05.940 I'm going to be doing work for a number of weeks and several months in Europe and across the nations there.
00:46:12.900 But I'm going to be heading to the United States and probably Canada as well.
00:46:17.840 So if I'm coming over, I'm definitely going to come and see you, David.
00:46:20.460 I would love to see you again and maybe we can organize something there.
00:46:24.740 But, yeah, I'm going to be doing some work over there.
00:46:27.720 I mean, I was there.
00:46:28.660 I was across eight different states last year on stage giving talks, talking about the kind of things we're talking about.
00:46:36.000 And they're deeply concerned.
00:46:37.180 They were back then even more so now, especially when you see the likes of Biden, who's quite clearly not really fit.
00:46:46.960 I suspect he's going to be replaced really quite soon.
00:46:50.600 I don't think he can continue.
00:46:51.900 I think they know if he continues in post to face off against Trump, for example, he's just going to lose it and Trump will get in.
00:46:59.840 And, of course, the globalists really fear another term of Trump being in as president because I actually think he was quite mild the last time he was in.
00:47:09.800 I mean, he was under constant attack, he used to shrug it off, but they've relentlessly gone after him, his business interests, his family.
00:47:18.000 And I think you might see a very different side of Trump.
00:47:21.740 I know if I was Trump and I got back in, I would be going after every single globalist on this planet.
00:47:28.020 I wouldn't stop just in America.
00:47:29.960 I would be pursuing them, whatever they were.
00:47:32.040 I'd be arresting them.
00:47:33.180 I'd be prosecuting them.
00:47:34.240 And I'd be putting them in prison for a very long period of time.
00:47:36.800 So I don't know whether Trump would do that or not.
00:47:39.600 I suspect he might.
00:47:40.540 But I think they are really fearful of a second presidency, another term, which means that when you see headlines like H5N1 avian influenza coming out of Texas, poultry, then into cattle, and then people coming down with it, then they say it's in the milk supplies and then they say it's in the eggs.
00:48:03.000 I'm just a bit concerned that we're maybe heading towards something that's planned, something that's going to interfere with the elections in America again.
00:48:12.200 And before you know it, there'll be huge boxes of ballots coming in, postal ballots coming in, and Biden's going to win.
00:48:19.120 I really think people have had enough of the dishonesty and the corruption in politics.
00:48:23.880 And if that were to happen, having spoken to so many people in the United States, we could be looking at a very serious situation.
00:48:31.880 Because I don't think people are going to take it.
00:48:34.180 No, I agree with you.
00:48:35.320 I don't think Biden will stay on the ticket.
00:48:37.980 But I don't think any alternative to Biden is going to put the Democrats over the top in the presidential election.
00:48:45.160 I think people have just had way too much of the Democratic corruption.
00:48:50.800 I think Trump is destined to win.
00:48:53.620 And he certainly has problems.
00:48:56.940 He has issues, but he is so strong on so many of the right issues that I don't see any alternative.
00:49:04.680 And the Democrats can only offer more of the same.
00:49:10.300 And so I'm optimistic about the elections in November.
00:49:14.180 And I certainly think Donald Trump is going to be victorious.
00:49:17.960 But as you said, I am concerned, again, about another phony pandemic, about lockdowns, about ballot harvesting, about the same shenanigans that went on four years ago, happening again, about Joe Biden running a campaign from his basement again, saying as little as possible, and ending up with the same result.
00:49:43.600 But I don't think it's going to happen this time.
00:49:45.680 I just think the history and momentum is on Donald Trump's side.
00:49:51.680 And I think that Joe Biden can never recover from that debate, which was catastrophic, which is totally devastating.
00:49:58.680 But anyway, I thank you so much, Jim, for joining me today.
00:50:03.300 And please, please look me up when you're in Canada.
00:50:06.460 And let's not wait another eight months to talk.
00:50:10.800 Let's do another show together within the next two or three months.
00:50:15.680 And I really appreciate everything you've shared with us today.
00:50:20.940 And because we really admire the work you're doing.
00:50:25.240 I really appreciate being on with you, David.
00:50:27.200 It's great to see you again.
00:50:28.680 And, you know, they talk about the Great Reset.
00:50:30.780 I think what we're witnessing truly is the Great Awakening.
00:50:33.600 People all around the world, in Canada, the United States, the Great Britain, and all around Europe and down under as well.
00:50:39.820 People are starting to get wise to what's been going on.
00:50:41.900 And I think that that's really what the globalists truly fear.
00:50:45.360 So I would just like to say, once again, it's been a pleasure to be here.
00:50:49.200 Really appreciate it.
00:50:50.280 And to all Americans and Canadians who follow me, I really appreciate what you guys do as well.
00:50:54.960 So thank you.
00:50:56.080 Well, thank you.
00:50:57.080 My guest today has been the founder and director of Freedom Train International, Jim Ferguson.
00:51:04.340 Good friend.
00:51:05.240 Thank you.
00:51:05.820 And we'll see you again soon, Jim.
00:51:08.260 Thanks a lot, David.
00:51:09.240 Speak soon.
00:51:09.720 Bye-bye for now.
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