Former Liberal Whip Stuns Trudeau By Advising Poilievre ｜ Stand on Guard Ep 130
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Summary
The Prime Minister of Canada, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, is a man of many talents, but his defence minister, a man with 35 years of military experience, has jumped ship and become a critic of the Prime Minister's defence policy. Why did this happen?
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and welcome back to another episode of stand on guard this is a live one so thanks for joining
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me i promised you we'd have some fun with the house of commons not sitting and i meant it so
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we'll be back in a minute to discuss what is the trudeau government doing for national defense and
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how one of his chief defense advisors has jumped ship so we are in a very precarious position in
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this country we need political change but we also need to resolve to resist
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i'm trying to get a number of interviews done this week i haven't been very successful
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are in getting them ready for this week probably be for next week but i'm looking forward to talking to
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a number of conservative conservative mps on some vital issues and i think it's very important we
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continue to do the interviews and talk to these decision makers but i'm very very interested in
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a story this week that i first saw in the national post and let's have a look at that here uh this is
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retired lieutenant general andrew leslie and he says our nato allies are despairing
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retired general says trudeau government failing on defense now there's another column by john
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iverson about that another warning about trudeau from yet another former liberal insider
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now to get back to this article here which i found particularly interesting it was frank
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and i'm going to read some portions of it and then explain
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what is wrong with the general's argument not all of it but there is a substantial fault in the
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general's argument and why national defense in canada especially under the liberals but even
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under the conservatives is fated to always fall short of any objectives it sets out to achieve
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but i did want to read a few lines from this because for those of you who don't know who this general
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leslie is he was an ottawa area mp after in 2015 he was defeated the second time around in trudeau's
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tenure he expected to be the minister of national defense in 2015 very much expected it this is a former
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chief of staff of the army he was a lieutenant general we don't have a lot of those in canada
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lots of major generals brigadier generals but not a lot of lieutenant general this is the commander of
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the army commander of the air force level the vice chief of defense staff very very high level senior
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general officer and he expected to be defense minister not just because he was coming in with 35 years of
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military experience and as a lieutenant general but because he had two grandfathers who were defense
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ministers andy mcnaughton his paternal grandfather during the second world war under prime minister
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mackenzie king mcnaughton was also a war hero in the first world war and he wrote extensively about
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his experiences in the artillery his other grandfather's maternal grandfather who
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brooke claxton i had to remind myself his first name was also defense minister under prime minister
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mackenzie king and prime minister louis saint laurent who actually was a huge booster of national defense
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these were the days when the liberals really believed in bolstering our national defense and they were
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very committed anti-communists that's when nato had an objective that was clear and concise and
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understandable containing world communism specifically the soviet union in the eastern bloc and not going
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any further that was the objective the raison d'etre of nato in those days and it made perfect sense
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and the liberal government the liberal party was very much behind that in those days you know we're
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talking the 1950s here not justin trudeau or not certainly not even pierre trudeau who began to be
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hostile towards the national defense because he saw it as something he just could not understand
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and that was clear throughout his entire career i want to just read a couple of comments from this
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national post interview with leslie who like i say was not happy when trudeau did not make him
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defense minister and instead made him the house whip which is not a very nice position to have because
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that's the guy in the government or opposition parties that forces people to show up for votes
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i mean and they get heavy-handed about it and forces members to vote along party lines
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90 95 percent of the time when there are not free votes make make that 99 percent of the time
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when there are not free votes so the government whip is not a popular position any more than the
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opposition official opposition whip is a popular position andrew leslie was not happy there but now
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he's become a staunch critic of justin trudeau and his defense policy so interesting if he was not
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somebody with fairly good credentials i would say who cares but i think we should care and he says
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the current prime minister of canada is not serious about defense well duh full stop a large number of
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his cabinet members are not serious about defense full stop this is what leslie told the national
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post our nato allies are despairing our american friends are frustrated well yeah no kidding because
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we've never pulled our weight in terms of defense spending since the mid-1960s
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and he says but because nato and norad which of course we all know north american aerospace defense
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command are both essentially voluntary organizations in which other people cannot give canada orders
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the retired general explained all the officers are extraordinary polite in public but in private the
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conversations are quite brutal very true i have some acquaintance with norad much more acquaintance
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with nato and publicly a lot of things are said privately a lot of things are said that are never said
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publicly but i want to get back i want to get back to his uh realization here that trudeau is not
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defending canada he doesn't quite say it but if you read between the lines in this interview
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he's suggesting that trudeau is defending the globalists it's not canada not canadian sovereignty
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and this is interesting because he says he's talking to peer poly of team about defense strategy
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and he finds them receptive aware and focused and he adds you can quote me on that well i i am quoting
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him on that and that's that's very interesting so that is what leslie is saying so where is leslie
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wrong well i looked up some of his past clips since he left the government the trudeau government he's
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been free to speak and yes he's been critical of trudeau's defense spending and defense policies
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but he hasn't been critical of trudeau's commitment to ukraine and that is a commitment to ukraine that
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is shared by the official opposition conservatives i've mentioned this on several different occasions
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the conservatives are as just as committed to bailing out ukraine with billions tens of billions of
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dollars of your tax money as the liberals are and for that matter the ndp so he's not recognizing
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that ukraine is a fundamental flaw in the defense policy of not only the liberals but the conservatives
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we cannot keep sending billions of dollars to ukraine into this black hole of kiev where it's going to
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disappear especially since we're spending it on nonsensical things like gender equity demining
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and and so on and so on and so on and especially since we now know a lot of this money never even
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went into defending ukraine it's gone into the pockets of oligarchs and corrupt politicians many of
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whom have fled the country with the money or it's in swiss bank accounts zelinski's time is limited
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whether or not he's knocked off by his own people or whether he is allowed to flee the country for a
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villa in other parts of the world i don't know that's going on right now but the the time it's
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going to take to defeat ukraine is is very very limited this of course is upping the ante on nato
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as to whether they want to directly intervene with armed forces on the ground and that's being discussed
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if that happens it's going to be a war it's going to be third world war with russia and that's
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inevitably going to escalate to a nuclear war those are the facts i don't want to get sidetracked on that
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right now but you know i've said this previously we're headed for nuclear war if nato puts boots on
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the ground and nato seems to think that's the only way out of this disaster that they created
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when ukraine falls when zelinski falls they have invested so-called so much money they've wasted
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not let's not use that word invested that is such a government bureaucraties they have wasted
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with profligate spending billions of dollars on a fight they cannot win on money that's being stolen
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by corrupt politicians on money they'll never see again and andrew leslie's talking about canada
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being undefended one of the reasons we're undefended is that we denuded our military to send it to ukraine
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we have cannibalized our own military to send the parts and to send the equipment to ukraine
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including our leopard tanks god knows how many leopard tanks we actually have left
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but i tell you the ones we sent to ukraine are gone they have been blown up on the battlefield
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by the russians we're not going to see them again we're not going to see any of the equipment we
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lent or gave to ukraine again it's gone destroyed or it will be captured by the russians if there's
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anything left so that's the situation we're in today so leslie is still saying yes yes support
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ukraine until the bitter end the bitter end is coming very very soon but it's not the end that
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trudeau and or for that matter the conservative party was envisioning it's a very different end
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it's going to be the end of zelinski and ukraine as we know it and all that money will have been
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wasted it's gone and we intervene in a conflict we never really understood or wanted to understand
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it was all about saving democracy when ukraine is not really a good democracy they canceled their
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presidential election they're a corrupt country the most corrupt country in europe
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so having said that leslie doesn't quite grasp that he's not prepared to say we got to stop
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supporting ukraine we got to stop being these toadies who say we're with you till the end because
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you know we yeah we were with them till the end but it's not the end we envisioned now why does
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national defense never get the money they're promised now here's a story from cbc which i think is
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interesting i've written about this extensively over the years for the various media outlets i've
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worked for and i couldn't find the one column i was looking for that i wrote several years ago with
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this very thing i always described the capital acquisition process in other words buying equipment
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as i as the huge shell game what the government of the day will do and the conservatives have done
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this as much as the liberals is that they'll take money from one shell put it to another and say ah
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we're upping defense spending not telling you that they're taking money away from another sector of
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defense over here in order to escalate defense spending in this area they do it all the time
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but what else do they do now here's bill blair i still call him the open borders minister because
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he was he had that position so in in the previous trudeau government to supposedly protect our borders
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from illegals coming through all he did was open the borders and embrace illegals he's been a lousy
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defense minister too and of course here he is saying admitting we're not going to be anywhere near this
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two percent of the gdp of defense spending that nato has been asking for for years and of course to tell
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you the truth i don't even want to reach that target anymore because nato is a lost cause nato
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stays our numbers nato will not survive beyond the next two years
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and it's not necessarily directly a result of the war in ukraine it's a direct result of bad policy
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for the last 15 to 20 years where they have been an organization constantly expanding never thinking
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of why they want to expand and the ramifications that expansion has for world peace the more members
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that belong to nato the greater likelihood there will be a european war that will quickly escalate
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into a world war that's a fact of life we do not need nato comprising 35 40 member nations it's ridiculous
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it becomes a club of fools a group of knaves it becomes a bunch of people without a coherent defense
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objective and that's what nato has become it needs to be disbanded the longer it stays in existence
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the greater likelihood we're going to have war with russia because that's what it's geared towards now
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not containing communism russia is no longer communist russia has no ambition to take over france
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it ceased to have a military objective when it started expanding beyond the old nato frontiers now
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it's on the border of russia and of course it's seen as a as a direct violation of our intentions our
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so why doesn't the military ever get the money the government's promising
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i'll tell you why now here's bill blair admitting we're going to be short
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but he also said the federal government's new national defense strategy which was released
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last month in april pledged an increase in military spending of 8.1 billion over the next five years
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all right that's the key right there defense spending in canada is always based on a five-year plan
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it's always based on sometimes even longer sometimes a seven to ten year plan so we're we're promising the
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military it's going to get that money well in five years maybe but a lot can happen in five years
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objectives can change budget directives can change the amount of money coming in can change
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the amount of money being spent on other projects can change governments can change
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so how can any government in 2024 promise you're going to be getting this money in five years
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when they have absolutely no control over that process or that promise
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there's no bloody way in hell any government can say we're going to deliver on defense spending in
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five years time because governments constantly change their objectives constantly change their
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commitments especially national defense because it comes dead last for a lot of people in the cabinet
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we can always sacrifice national defense on the altar of other social programs health care
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whatnot everything else comes before defense so defense is always left with the empty bag that will
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happen and it's happened under conservative governments happens with greater frequency and with more
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brutality under liberal governments and that's important to know and that's where trudeau is going with
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this defense is not going to get enough money to survive it's always going to be
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bear laden and that's the way the trudeau government wants to keep it
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all the while promising on the horizon there's a pot of gold but they'll never get to that horizon
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because the horizon keeps being pushed further and further into the distance anyway i want to show you a
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flip here this is classic because even the national media are beginning to recognize the trudeau's
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days are over now i know there's these podcasters out there who say that every other day it's over
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not quite it's not over yet and trudeau's fighting back and you'll hear in this news conference just how
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hard he's fighting back but even the national media the mainstream media recognizes that trudeau has become
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an impediment to another liberal victory god forbid that there should ever be another liberal victory
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but even the national media recognizes trudeau is part of the problem he's no longer the glory boy
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the insouciant young emperor who thinks he can say and do anything without anyone really objecting
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especially in the national media so let's have a listen to this globe and mail prime minister i want to ask you about
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leadership um polls have put you 20 points behind the conservatives and it doesn't seem to be getting better
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despite your recent communications push from your from your budget the public appears to have an overwhelmingly
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negative view of you personally and you seem to have lost control of the conversation on some of the key issues
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that canadians care about i think the public might be looking at you and your position right now
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and thinking for the good of the liberal party why is he staying on thank you for your concern laura
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um but as you see we're here investing in good jobs for today and for generations to come
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the world is in a challenging place absolutely but that's why for eight years this government has been
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putting forward investments and a frame that both fights climate change and creates good jobs and economic growth
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that understands that if you want to bring in strong investments and great jobs for canadians
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you have to be making investments in things like child care like pharma care like health care
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all right so we become a communist country where the government supplies all our needs
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uh not really that's what he's talking about isn't it the investments as he likes to call them
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constant government spending so what we can rely increasingly on the government and of course there
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he goes with that challenges nonsense again investments to make sure that young people get the best
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opportunity as they go off to post-secondary education
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i know there are lots of folks in ottawa thinking about process i'm focused on results for canadians
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i'm focused on delivering the kinds of things that are going to set canada and canadians up for success
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over the coming decades because that's the moment we're in right now
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can you think of anything justin trudeau has done
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that has anything to do with setting canada up for success
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he's decimating our economy he's spending twice as much as he takes in
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he's ballooned the deficit he's ballooned the national debt
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he has increased the amount of public servants at a rate
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higher than any other prime minister in history
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he is spending money like it's proverbial water
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what has he done to set up canada for the future except if that future means economic catastrophe
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a different government years ago wouldn't have made the choice
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what the hell is an ev ecosystem so yes here he is and another announcement strengthening our ev supply chain
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electric vehicles are not an answer they're not even they're not even a a response let alone a panacea
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these batteries are not sustainable they're not going to be able to be replaced because
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we don't have the materials for these battery plants in canada we've got to extract them
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from other parts of the world guess who's doing that for us china and child laborers
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they're extracting these raw materials necessary to power these batteries to get them working
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and if your battery fails in your electric vehicle you're out of luck getting a replacement
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and if your battery fails in the winter because it's too cold to operate you're out of luck getting to work
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notice we've got doug ford here smiling sort of trying to smile
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there he goes again propping up the government propping up the trudeau government
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yeah yeah yeah great news for ontario isn't it doug and you came in on a anti-green energy platform
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you got rid of all this nonsense that you knew wasn't going to power a modern economy
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you knew that windmills and solar panels weren't going to power a modern industrial economy
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because it wasn't sufficient you knew the electric rates in this in the province of ontario
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were going through the roof to the point that businesses were leaving the province
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you knew green energy was a myth you knew green energy was false
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there you are standing behind justin trudeau again propping up his government
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thank you doug ford you faux conservative you're at it again
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put a double down on the oil and gas industry ah and stayed away from anything that threatened the
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blame the oil and gas industry we know that the pressure we're putting on the oil and gas industry
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to decarbonize and to invest in renewables goes hand in hand with our decision to invest massively
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in the electrification of our economies because we have the clean electricity here in canada
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we have the high quality manufacturing uh workers we have the social and economic stability
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the countries around the world and companies around the world are looking for
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this is about building a plan for the future of this country that's what we're focused on that's
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what i will continue to be focused on because building a better future for canadians bringing in
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fairness for every generation that's what i am 100 focused on yeah yeah yeah what you're 100 focused on
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justin trudeau is clinging tenaciously to power staying leader of the liberal party of canada staying prime
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minister that's what you're focused on you don't have a plan for canada you don't have a plan to get
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us out of this disaster you put us in you have no idea and you just know that there are people
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who want your job and you're going to do your damnedest to ensure they don't get it and what happens in
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october 2025 when the next election is supposed to happen what do you bet we have a crisis that postpones that
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next election that's what he's committed to that's what he's thinking very strongly about right now he's
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not thinking about the welfare of canadians if he was he'd say i'm out of here i'm retiring it's over
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for me i'm going because i've done what i thought i could do and it hasn't worked he'd be gone tomorrow
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sorry he missed that arctic the snowstorm like his father had but i don't think he's going to take an
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opportunity to consider his retirement anytime soon he's going to fight to the bitter end to stay in
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until he faces his own internal revolt from the caucus in the cabinet and the liberal party insiders
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with the money that's what's going to happen to justin trudeau well he blathers on blames the oil and gas
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industry says they need to take more responsibility he will never take more responsibility for any of
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the actions any of disasters he's created in the crisis he has accelerated and that's justin trudeau
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and that's how he responds the questions about his leadership everybody else's fault don't ask me
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to improve my leadership i'm the chief narcissistic prime minister thanks for watching today folks i'll
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