Stand on Guard with David Krayden - ＂I feel I have a target on my back＂ Outrageous Treatment of ON Teachers EXPOSED ｜ Stand on Guard

00:00:00.740 Good morning, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Stand on Guard.

00:00:05.160 I am, of course, your host, David Creighton, and I'm broadcasting live from Ottawa, as I do every day, seven days a week at 10 o'clock.

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00:00:32.860 And my guest today is Matt Alexander, and Matt and his wife, Nicole, were recently terminated as Ottawa teachers

00:00:40.880 because they weren't sufficiently enthusiastic about Pride Month, Pride Season, the raising of the gay pride flag.

00:00:50.580 When we get back, Matt is standing by.

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00:02:20.780 So without further ado, I want to welcome Matt Alexander to Stand on Guard.

00:02:27.120 Thank you, Matt, so much for being here.

00:02:29.900 Thanks for having me, David.

00:02:31.480 And it's, of course, your wife, Nicole, was also invited.

00:02:35.140 But she would rather just let you say the piece here this morning.

00:02:40.880 I totally understand that.

00:02:42.400 But, of course, it was both of you who were terminated.

00:02:46.680 Now, was it the Ottawa school board?

00:02:49.660 Because I know when your son, Josh, and we'll get into this later, of course, you were the parents of Josh Alexander, the Ottawa high school student who was banished from his school for daring to question males or boys, essentially, teenage boys using teenage girls' bathrooms.

00:03:06.400 He stood up for the girls in his school, and he was summarily tossed out.

00:03:11.120 Everybody I know is very familiar with that story.

00:03:15.020 But a question, really, to start with here is, was it the Ottawa school board did this?

00:03:22.480 Was it the Catholic school board?

00:03:24.020 And can you just walk us through what happened to you?

00:03:27.780 So it wasn't the Ottawa school board.

00:03:31.460 It was the Renfrew County District School Board.

00:03:33.260 So just west, just in west of Ottawa.

00:03:36.780 So my wife and I worked for the Renfrew County District School Board.

00:03:40.840 And Josh was, when he had his fiasco, he was attending the Renfrew County Catholic District School Board.

00:03:48.840 So he was in the same county, just he was attending the Catholic School.

00:03:52.280 And that's when he got into his difficulties with that school board.

00:03:57.980 And so, you know, a year or so later, my wife and I were suspended and shortly thereafter terminated with cause from the public school board in Renfrew County.

00:04:11.680 So that's who was involved.

00:04:16.460 Okay, so when exactly did you receive news of your termination then?

00:04:22.280 It was in April of 2023.

00:04:25.160 Yeah, mid-April 2023, I got a phone call from my principal one night and she said,

00:04:31.400 Matt, sorry to tell you, but don't come back into school.

00:04:34.160 You're under investigation.

00:04:36.020 No details given whatsoever.

00:04:37.600 Absolutely nothing.

00:04:39.740 So I'd been teaching 23 years, had an absolutely clear teaching record over and above that.

00:04:47.280 The principals always asked me to be the principal designate, the person who would be in charge of the building when they were gone.

00:04:55.860 So I held that role for about nine years until I said I didn't want to do that anymore.

00:05:00.840 So I was selected by the board as a leader and a representative and, you know, a quasi-manager.

00:05:08.520 But suddenly, after Josh did his thing, you know, some months later, I was suddenly suspended.

00:05:16.940 No warning.

00:05:18.920 And no details given.

00:05:21.160 So I had a chat with my union in the morning and the union said, well, it's because of your online posts.

00:05:29.840 And I said, well, I don't have social media because I didn't at the time.

00:05:32.620 I had no social media whatsoever.

00:05:33.920 I've always hated social media.

00:05:35.620 And I said, I have no posts.

00:05:37.000 And the union rep was puzzled by that and said, well, I don't know.

00:05:40.660 It's something to do with posts.

00:05:41.380 So I found out that it seems it was anonymous posts that were made about me, related to Josh, that brought the frown from the school board, I guess.

00:05:52.380 And they decided to initiate the suspension and to investigate us and looking for issues.

00:06:00.660 Us, I should say, myself.

00:06:02.180 My wife's was a slightly different story.

00:06:05.760 So in her case, she also had no social media.

00:06:10.360 But about three to four weeks after I was suspended, she walked into school.

00:06:15.420 It was a different school, same school board.

00:06:17.040 And she was a kindergarten teacher teaching French to kindergarten class.

00:06:21.060 And she goes to her classroom.

00:06:22.940 And on her door is a pride flag, a poster with the pride progress flag.

00:06:31.520 She didn't put it there.

00:06:33.220 It was not board mandated to be there.

00:06:35.420 And most other classrooms did not have that on their door either.

00:06:39.520 And she just removed it and put it in the closet. 0.99

00:06:44.120 And shortly thereafter, she began teaching.

00:06:46.960 Got ready for a day, taught her little kids, and then was called to the office.

00:06:51.060 Where the superintendent of human resources was waiting and said, did you remove the pride poster from your door?

00:06:58.640 To which my wife said, yes.

00:07:00.340 And the superintendent said, all right, you are immediately suspended and under investigation.

00:07:08.200 So they had to protect her.

00:07:09.620 Okay.

00:07:09.880 So that's what Nicole meant in her email to me where she said she was basically suspended and then terminated because she wasn't sufficiently supporting the pride activities.

00:07:23.480 And so, but you, it sounds like what you're telling me now is that you were suspended and eventually terminated just for being the father of Josh Alexander.

00:07:32.960 And that's all there really was to it.

00:07:35.860 So that, well, we can surmise why, but there was much chagrin and concern regarding my connection to Josh for sure.

00:07:51.240 But I got social media afterwards, after being suspended, I got social media and I said, well, you know, I'm going to put out my, my, my Christian beliefs out there.

00:08:00.920 If I'm being suspended for not even having it, I'm going to do it.

00:08:04.580 So I put Bible verses out there.

00:08:06.640 I put Bible related commentary to the news events.

00:08:10.600 You know, Josh was of course in the news.

00:08:12.340 There were things that went on.

00:08:13.500 Josh's brother, Nick was attacked with a blade and sliced in the face and down in Toronto was bleeding.

00:08:20.400 I posted about that.

00:08:21.720 And the board took issue with me commenting on that because the board does not like Save Canada, the organization that the boys had.

00:08:32.960 So I suppose there was a connection to that.

00:08:37.400 So it was a Christian youth organization that they were kind of, kind of leading.

00:08:41.660 And it was considered to not be in alignment with board policy.

00:08:47.740 So that was, that was the trouble.

00:08:51.280 Yes, that was the trouble indeed.

00:08:53.560 So I guess if there's any current angle here, it's when did you reach out to the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms?

00:09:01.920 Is this a more recent addition to the story?

00:09:06.200 No, they've been with us.

00:09:08.000 Oh, gee, I can't remember when we started.

00:09:09.460 It's been a while now, but we had some support from some other lawyers at the start.

00:09:13.320 And we reached out.

00:09:14.780 We had some other people who gave us some help at the very beginning.

00:09:17.640 But the Justice Center came in full force.

00:09:21.380 Fantastic.

00:09:22.060 We've got a team that's working for us, supporting us.

00:09:25.700 And that was, I don't even know, David, a year, a little more than a year.

00:09:30.840 I'm not sure.

00:09:31.280 It's been a while.

00:09:32.180 Yeah.

00:09:32.980 So they're fighting and you're fighting for full reinstatement.

00:09:36.700 Is that your goal or objective here?

00:09:38.620 Well, at this point, given the discrimination that we've faced and it's been wild, I don't really think reinstatement is an option.

00:09:47.920 I mean, there'll be more to come later on as things work through the court a little bit.

00:09:54.280 But the things that have happened have been just absolutely outrageous.

00:09:57.460 And I can't imagine actually working under that school board again.

00:10:03.380 Anyway, I feel I've got a target on my back and there's really no hope of continuing there.

00:10:09.640 So we're looking for a recognition that our beliefs, our creed under the Human Rights Code is violated.

00:10:19.320 Our religious rights under the Charter, our freedom of speech, our freedom of association have all been violated.

00:10:27.360 The union has even agreed to much of that.

00:10:30.980 But they refuse to pursue it and have those rights defended.

00:10:36.320 So I'm looking for a statement that, yes, our rights were violated and whatever needs to be done to right that wrong.

00:10:45.140 Reinstatement is probably not realistic.

00:10:46.720 They certainly don't want me back.

00:10:50.280 And I don't think it would be a safe place to work, frankly.

00:10:53.360 Well, that's an excellent point.

00:10:57.620 Would it even be a safe place to work?

00:11:00.300 Sounds like it wouldn't.

00:11:01.660 But from what you're describing, though, it sounds to me, and I'm sure you would agree,

00:11:06.680 that there's definite collusion here between the union, the teachers union, the school boards and local governments,

00:11:15.280 that they're all in this together because they want you out of there because you're refusing to accept, embrace, and promote the LGBTQ narrative. 0.68

00:11:25.240 And when you're guilty of that, then there's really no recourse.

00:11:30.620 But would you say there's definitely a collusion going on between these agencies?

00:11:37.220 Well, I don't want to allege what I don't know.

00:11:40.220 But what I can attest to is that they are on the same side ideologically.

00:11:46.240 The teaching union pushes the LGBTQ agenda as much or more than the school board does.

00:11:53.280 So when we're found in violation of the law, the question is, am I getting fair representation from my union when my union is opposed to my beliefs?

00:12:02.880 That's the question.

00:12:04.020 And it doesn't appear we are.

00:12:06.980 So they're in agreement.

00:12:08.840 And they certainly do.

00:12:11.360 And it's on the record.

00:12:12.120 They certainly collaborate on publications and promotions of pride events, you know, different events that go on for the students to promote rainbow things with the kids.

00:12:29.260 They're on the same side.

00:12:30.460 They collaborate in that regard.

00:12:32.400 Whether they colluded against me, well, we'll let the courts decide that.

00:12:35.420 Yes, yes.

00:12:38.520 When I was thinking of some questions this morning, it occurred to me, and I don't think this has ever occurred to me in quite this way before.

00:12:48.720 But, of course, we all know in 1968 when Pierre Trudeau, prior to his becoming liberal leader and then prime minister, was the justice minister into the Lester Pearson government.

00:13:00.400 And it was Pierre Trudeau who legalized homosexuality.

00:13:03.980 And a lot of people think, wow, wow, it was really illegal prior to me.

00:13:07.380 Yes, prior to 1968, homosexuality was illegal.

00:13:10.680 And, of course, his famous justification was that the state has no place in the bedrooms of the nations.

00:13:17.400 But I was thinking this morning, what an irony we are facing today.

00:13:22.100 Because the whole LGBTQ phenomena movement has absolutely nothing now to do with privacy in the bedroom. 0.75

00:13:30.300 It's intrusive behavior in the public square and insistence that you and I embrace it or else there's consequences.

00:13:42.960 We might lose our job.

00:13:44.300 We might be canceled on the Internet.

00:13:46.400 We might even have the police at our doorstep saying we're guilty of some sort of hate crime.

00:13:50.840 But I thought about this because that's exactly what's happened.

00:13:56.400 It's no longer about privacy.

00:13:59.380 It's about public embracing and promotion of an agenda that's quite clearly contrary to Christian principles, values, and the Bible.

00:14:11.060 And for me, this is a clear case of another violation of freedom of religion.

00:14:17.480 And I think about, you know, pride parades, as they're called.

00:14:23.340 And I say pride in quotation marks.

00:14:26.240 But things go on at these pride parades that would never be accepted or in any way embraced by either the public or the police.

00:14:36.640 Because we have sometimes full nudity going on here, especially in the Toronto parade.

00:14:41.420 We've seen incredible things going on in Ottawa in the last couple of years.

00:14:47.120 And people somehow just say, well, you know, I can't object to that because this is a protected group.

00:14:53.240 This is a politically protected group.

00:14:55.240 And the police are often around, but they have 100% failure rate at arresting anybody for lewd or obscene activities.

00:15:07.840 And when I was talking to a Justice Center lawyer the other day, he reminded me about something called community standards, which used to be very important in law.

00:15:20.980 But it doesn't seem to apply to the pride parades.

00:15:23.740 There's no community standards.

00:15:24.820 And it's because they can do whatever they please at these events.

00:15:30.600 They're politically protected and the police look the other way when children are forced to see full frontal male nudity.

00:15:39.000 And somehow that's acceptable.

00:15:41.560 But the irony, again, for me is that that is allowed to happen.

00:15:48.400 But you are not allowed to say, I'm sorry, I really object to this because this is really nothing but a celebration of cyberitic rites, of hedonism.

00:15:58.300 And I don't think children as young as grade three should have to be exposed to this kind of sexuality.

00:16:07.600 Or for that matter, at that age, any kind of sexuality.

00:16:11.760 Let children be children.

00:16:13.700 Let them enjoy their upbringing without immediately having the burden of all of the sexual behavior on their backs.

00:16:24.340 I just find this...

00:16:25.620 This used to be common sense.

00:16:29.040 But to me, it's not just about freedom of religion.

00:16:32.640 It's about freedom of speech.

00:16:33.960 It's about freedom of assembly.

00:16:35.360 It's about everything this country used to be and is no longer.

00:16:39.380 And I think that's why what you represent here is how a Christian person, and I'm an evangelical Christian myself, and believe me, I understand exactly what suppression is all about.

00:16:54.300 And I understand exactly how you can offend the wrong people by quoting the Bible.

00:17:00.960 But do you feel targeted, especially because the hostility in this country, and we'll get to this in a minute, but Sean Foyt, who came to Canada two weeks ago, and thank God, is coming back to Winnipeg in less than a week.

00:17:18.280 Sean Foyt was targeted from the minute he steps foot on Canadian soil.

00:17:22.320 He was denied access to public fora from the east coast of Toronto.

00:17:27.540 He was harassed.

00:17:30.040 The churches he went to were harassed.

00:17:33.380 One was fined $2,500, a church in Montreal by the woke mayor of Montreal, Valerie Plante.

00:17:41.020 He had nothing but problems when he went to Toronto.

00:17:45.820 And he's not being welcomed in Winnipeg.

00:17:48.080 And, you know, I think the lesson there is the same lesson that you're teaching us, is that freedom of religion is under attack in Canada.

00:18:00.060 We can't take it for granted.

00:18:01.380 We've got to fight back.

00:18:02.720 No, it's not under attack, David.

00:18:04.160 It's gone.

00:18:05.360 And Canadians don't realize that.

00:18:06.880 There is no freedom of religion anymore. 0.62

00:18:08.960 And it's going to get worse, I think, rather quickly. 0.80

00:18:12.500 So the reason we were actually fired, so they suspended us, they investigated, they tried to make concerns about different things which were ridiculous.

00:18:25.540 And our union even said, like, Matt hasn't done anything.

00:18:28.940 Show me something Matt has done wrong in order to discipline him.

00:18:33.920 He's not guilty of anything here.

00:18:35.360 The board was upset with other people surrounding me.

00:18:39.580 So with all that said, what we were actually fired for, David, was that we were given a letter that said, you know, notwithstanding discipline and infractions against board policy,

00:18:55.680 if you will, if you will agree to the board guideline, and it's a board guideline, it's not even a provincial guideline,

00:19:03.460 the board guideline to celebrate and affirm diversity, LGBTQ, in the classroom, we could have our job back.

00:19:13.080 And so that's where Nicole and I said, no, we are Christians.

00:19:17.260 We're not going to celebrate that which we don't agree with.

00:19:20.160 I'm not going to celebrate Muslim holidays, and I'm not going to celebrate Hindu holidays, 1.00

00:19:28.100 and I'm not going to celebrate a sexual choice that I don't agree with. 0.77

00:19:35.820 I don't infringe on the lives of Muslims.

00:19:37.780 I don't infringe on the lives of Hindus.

00:19:39.360 I don't infringe on the lives of Jews. 0.85

00:19:40.900 I don't infringe on the lives of homosexuals or transgender. 0.84

00:19:45.440 I'm not celebrating.

00:19:46.920 I have my beliefs, and I'm standing on that.

00:19:48.540 That's what it came down to.

00:19:49.200 It has come down to a state religion.

00:19:52.200 And, you know, Europe's had issues with state religion,

00:19:55.160 and it's part of what formed the United States,

00:19:56.720 was trying to have a country that didn't have a state religion.

00:20:00.380 And what we're seeing is a new state religion.

00:20:04.400 It's just a newer version, a woke version.

00:20:09.960 Well, that's quite interesting you would call it a state religion,

00:20:12.480 because when I was talking to the JCCF lawyer yesterday.

00:20:16.680 I referred to the holy day of gay pride parade, the holy season of pride season.

00:20:26.100 And now June has become the month that we're all supposed to acknowledge.

00:20:33.660 And it's everywhere.

00:20:34.660 The rainbow flag is everywhere.

00:20:37.160 It's from the liquor stores to the banks to the local bakery.

00:20:44.720 And if you don't affirm that flag, you're not only hateful, you're somehow on the fringes of society.

00:20:54.140 And it's amazing to me how we got here so quickly, where the pride flag, and once again, I use that term very loosely,

00:21:03.100 was not so long ago identified with the very fringes of society.

00:21:09.780 And yet, we as Christians, we as people who believe in freedom, individual freedom, said,

00:21:16.780 fine, if you want to celebrate something I disagree with, I have no problem with that.

00:21:22.520 I don't agree with what you're saying.

00:21:24.020 I don't agree with what you're doing.

00:21:25.660 I don't even agree with the reasons you provide for what you're doing.

00:21:29.900 I think it's a choice.

00:21:30.820 I don't agree with your choice, but I will fight to my death for your right to express your views and your opinions.

00:21:40.020 They took that liberty.

00:21:42.060 They took that freedom from us.

00:21:43.440 And then they said, well, it doesn't apply to you.

00:21:46.300 Sorry.

00:21:47.060 You can't oppose what we're doing, what we're saying.

00:21:50.780 And if you do, we'll cancel you. 0.99

00:21:53.340 And we'll put you through hell. 0.99

00:21:54.740 We'll put you through lawfare. 0.98

00:21:55.780 We'll make sure you can't function as a regular member of society.

00:22:02.520 And do you think, I mean, what have you, how have you coped for the last two and a half years?

00:22:09.780 Because it's April 2023.

00:22:12.520 You know, in October, it's going to be two and a half years since you went through the first of all,

00:22:17.580 the suspension and eventually which led to the dismissal.

00:22:20.780 How have you coped with this?

00:22:23.980 Yeah, so the termination actually happened in October of 23.

00:22:27.680 So suspension in April and October.

00:22:29.900 My wife and I were both canned on the same day.

00:22:33.200 So, yeah, it's been a challenge.

00:22:36.660 I mean, our income went straight to zero.

00:22:38.420 I said, worked a career.

00:22:41.940 Nicole had taken time off to homeschool and raise the kids. 0.92

00:22:44.480 So she was just back into working again.

00:22:46.720 And we were enjoying having a couple of incomes.

00:22:48.500 And so that was gone.

00:22:50.220 So we've had to adjust.

00:22:52.620 We're doing retraining and trying to get back in.

00:22:56.140 But I'll tell you right now, in terms of education, it's over.

00:22:59.460 Schools won't hire us.

00:23:00.420 Just because you can't go to a school board and say, hi, I'm coming from Renfrew County and they fired me for not celebrating LGBTQ.

00:23:09.280 It's over.

00:23:10.800 It's a black mark.

00:23:12.140 So we've had to trust in God.

00:23:14.660 And God is good.

00:23:16.620 And day by day, week by week, we lean on him.

00:23:20.260 And he's faithful and has proven himself.

00:23:24.500 So we continue to lean on him and look for his help.

00:23:27.060 But it's been a challenge.

00:23:27.980 Well, you know, you've already expressed your belief that freedom of religion is dead in Canada.

00:23:36.800 I think you're probably not far from the truth there.

00:23:41.220 Did you think the recent tour with Sean Foyt?

00:23:44.860 And I have to admit, I did not know very much about Sean Foyt before he came to Canada the last time.

00:23:51.220 And I think every Canadian now knows a lot more about Sean Foyt.

00:23:55.520 But I hope every Christian, especially evangelical Christians, and I hope conservative Catholics understand who Sean Foyt is.

00:24:06.940 Because he came to Canada not to preach politics.

00:24:11.300 And, of course, that's immediately what the mainstream media said.

00:24:14.360 Oh, he's affiliated with mega.

00:24:16.760 He's affiliated with Donald Trump.

00:24:20.440 So he's bad.

00:24:22.640 And he's somehow campaigning for Donald Trump.

00:24:25.680 And he's espousing make America great again views.

00:24:29.740 Well, whether or not he does, as far as I'm concerned, that's his right if he wants to do that.

00:24:35.520 The irony, of course, here's our third irony for today, was that Sean Foyt never talked about mega or Donald Trump or his political support for anything.

00:24:45.640 He talked about Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior of his life.

00:24:49.720 He talked about worshiping Christ.

00:24:51.900 He talked about the gospel.

00:24:54.060 And anybody with half a brain who watches the videos that resulted from the concerts he did in churches across eastern and central Canada would probably arrive at that conclusion.

00:25:08.560 Hey, this guy wasn't here to talk about Donald Trump.

00:25:11.240 He was here like any, like Franklin Graham, who comes to Canada once or twice a year.

00:25:17.180 He was here to deliver the gospel.

00:25:19.940 And why is that suddenly verboten?

00:25:23.900 And why is it?

00:25:24.360 And did you think that was a confirmation of everything that's happened to you, that that's how hostile municipal leaders are in this country?

00:25:35.240 That's how hostile the government is.

00:25:37.060 And I'll say this.

00:25:39.720 I was very disappointed, again, that the conservative leader, Pierre Paglia, said absolutely nothing while this controversy, if you will, was going on.

00:25:53.900 And once again, chose to just pretend nothing to see here.

00:25:59.100 I expected that from Mark Carney, who, of course, popped up at a gay pride parade in Vancouver embracing a half-nude male. 0.83

00:26:07.480 That was par for the course for Mark Carney.

00:26:09.980 But I would have thought Pierre Paglia would have done a little better, but he didn't.

00:26:15.360 Were you surprised that there was absolutely no political?

00:26:20.300 Well, no, I shouldn't say that.

00:26:21.820 There were some conservative MPs who came forth and supported Sean during that week.

00:26:27.740 But there was nothing from the leadership of the conservative party and, of course, nothing from Mark Carney even saying, hey, give the guy a break.

00:26:36.560 You know, you might not agree with him, but we have freedom of religion in this country.

00:26:41.940 Yeah, right.

00:26:43.320 Were you surprised?

00:26:44.840 Probably not, that there was absolutely no pushback from official circles.

00:26:50.600 No, I'm not surprised by that.

00:26:52.000 I'm not surprised.

00:26:52.620 I mean, look at our last election campaign.

00:26:56.160 The hot button issues that should have been spoken about were either not spoken about by the opposition or if they were, it was a day late and a dollar short.

00:27:09.360 It was, you know, snuck in at the very end when it was clear the public opinion wanted some of these issues touched on and they weren't.

00:27:16.060 I think Canadians need to evaluate what they want to do and how they want to get their way out of this mess.

00:27:24.900 As I've said before, if we allow, and when I say we, I mean anyone who's not on the side of the left or whatever the current narrative is.

00:27:36.500 If you want to get out, the only way out is to speak up.

00:27:41.480 The tactic that is used by the left, and it's a Marxist communist tactic, is they berate and belittle and insult anyone who opposes.

00:27:50.380 And if we, on the other side, are afraid of those insults and afraid of the things that would be said about us, then we automatically submit.

00:28:01.040 We bow down and allow them to drive the discussion, and we will never get out of that.

00:28:06.340 And what we've seen from most of the, well, I'll say the Conservative Party, has been a lot of cowardice.

00:28:12.780 They're afraid to speak on the issues that matter to Canadians, to the issues that are destroying the country.

00:28:18.800 And so long as we're afraid to speak, because we're afraid the media is going to say something about us, or some activist is going to say something about us, then you'll continue on allowing them to dominate.

00:28:29.360 It's a voluntary submission, and I don't understand it.

00:28:31.680 What's required is courage to speak up and say, no, this is how it should be, and people will follow that.

00:28:37.420 I truly believe that.

00:28:38.400 Yes, and I think you're 100% correct there.

00:28:44.880 I was actually working at the time at the House of Commons when the same-sex marriage bill came up under Joan Cretchen.

00:28:52.180 And it's amazing to me that 95% of the Conservative caucus was opposed to same-sex marriage at that time.

00:29:02.100 There were only a handful of red Tories, like James Moore and others, who stood up and voted with the liberal legislation, because it was a free vote.

00:29:14.020 I actually left my job at the House of Commons to fight for marriage, traditional marriage.

00:29:20.920 And to this day, I still hold the same view.

00:29:24.060 I haven't changed my views because society has changed.

00:29:27.580 I haven't changed my views because the Conservative Party has changed.

00:29:30.640 And I think if you ask the Conservative Party caucus today who supports same-sex marriage, probably 98% of them would stand up and say, yes, we do.

00:29:41.220 And that's how things have changed in the last couple of decades.

00:29:45.160 But what amazes me is that we used to think policies and ideas were cemented, and now they're like, they're being drifting in the water.

00:30:03.940 And it amazes me that the Conservative Party at that time is not the Conservative Party of today at all.

00:30:12.700 And, you know, I would flatly say that I have stayed the same because the Bible stayed the same. 0.67

00:30:20.820 And I'm sure you would agree that you cannot change with society because the Bible doesn't change.

00:30:29.940 And so I wanted to ask you this.

00:30:39.220 Do you think the churches in Canada were conditioned during the COVID pandemic to accept and almost think it's normal

00:30:55.960 for local governments to tell them, or provincial governments?

00:31:02.800 That was the thing about COVID, of course.

00:31:04.860 There was a direct collusion from the federal government on down in terms of policy and regulations.

00:31:13.380 So you never knew exactly who you were offending.

00:31:15.780 But churches during that time came to accept and expect government intrusion into their services.

00:31:23.620 We had churches saying, okay, we can only have 50 people at the service, and they have to be 10 feet apart, and they have to be masked.

00:31:32.240 Or in some cases, no, you can't go to church at all.

00:31:35.280 Go ahead.

00:31:36.320 Yeah, so you weren't allowed to sing.

00:31:37.960 You remember that?

00:31:39.660 Yeah.

00:31:40.280 They banned praise to God through singing, literally.

00:31:43.380 So, yeah, my answer to that is absolutely they were conditioned to that.

00:31:48.440 And they used scripture to defend, I'm calling it their cowardice.

00:31:54.160 They said, you know, in 1 Peter and in Romans, we're supposed to obey our governments.

00:31:58.120 We are supposed to obey our governments.

00:31:59.660 I've got no criminal record.

00:32:01.260 I pay my taxes.

00:32:02.340 I'm a good citizen as far as the society goes.

00:32:07.300 Please don't have any problem with me.

00:32:10.640 However, as much as there's a couple of Bible passages that tell us to obey our governments,

00:32:15.520 there's plenty of Bible passages that tell us when the government is evil,

00:32:19.900 when it stops you, that the apostles were told not to preach the gospel.

00:32:23.760 Did they stop?

00:32:24.960 No.

00:32:25.760 They carried on.

00:32:27.020 Should I obey God or man?

00:32:29.880 We're supposed to fear God.

00:32:33.060 We're not to fear the man who can destroy our body,

00:32:36.020 but we're to fear God who can destroy both body and soul and health.

00:32:39.800 And Christians need to decide where are they. 1.00

00:32:42.840 The Bible is replete with examples of people like Moses who defied authorities,

00:32:48.240 who took on actions against the government when the government conflicted with God's word.

00:32:55.380 And that is the key.

00:32:56.100 I obey the government and always have in everything I do.

00:32:59.320 If the government tells me to bow down to gender ideology, I'm sorry.

00:33:02.940 I'm not doing it.

00:33:04.140 Jesus Christ died for my sins and rose again, giving me eternal life.

00:33:08.440 He's given me more than the government can ever give me.

00:33:10.960 My allegiance is to him.

00:33:12.780 It'll be to the government second.

00:33:14.680 So I'll do what the government wants me to do.

00:33:16.680 If they want me to bow down to some new religion, I'm not doing it.

00:33:19.940 It's not happening.

00:33:20.840 It's not the biblical way.

00:33:21.780 What sort of brings me back to Sean Foyt's visit, and thank God it's coming back,

00:33:29.640 because I hope there's a second chapter to the lessons he's teaching Canada.

00:33:35.920 Whether or not they have any effect on this government, I don't know.

00:33:40.060 But do you think the church is because he's one of his main thrusts is the lettuce worship program he has going,

00:33:49.620 which is essentially the church's pushback against the authoritarian overreach of government, which they did during COVID.

00:33:58.220 And they did very dramatically during Sean Foyt's visit to Canada.

00:34:05.300 But do you think churches in Canada are just far too reluctant to fight back?

00:34:11.660 A hundred percent.

00:34:12.700 A hundred percent.

00:34:13.800 We see another issue that came up a number of years back.

00:34:17.180 You remember when there was an issue of giving funding to summer camps?

00:34:22.340 The summer camps had to promote, I believe it was the LGBTQ agenda.

00:34:26.520 And if a summer camp wouldn't do that, there'd be no funding.

00:34:28.740 So Christian camps all over the place were in a panic because they relied on government funding.

00:34:36.420 So, yeah, Sean Foyt's visit, absolutely.

00:34:38.460 I don't know a lot about Sean Foyt.

00:34:39.800 I don't know what he is speaking, what he's preaching.

00:34:41.680 But absolutely, he has brought light to the fact that the government does not approve of Christianity and the government will persecute at will any Christians who don't conform right to the point of whether or not he supports Donald Trump.

00:34:59.220 What does that have to do with anything? 0.97

00:35:00.600 Anyways, yeah, it's ridiculous. 0.99

00:35:03.620 And Christians are under the gun. 0.99

00:35:05.180 And if a Christian will speak up, they will be targeted. 0.97

00:35:08.100 Most Christians are not targeted because they don't speak up. 0.99

00:35:12.260 They are, they are not just Christians, but everybody is really subject to the golden handcuffs of their pension, of their paycheck, of their perhaps government funding for their organization, of their charitable status.

00:35:29.800 And so long as churches are in fear of the government because they don't want to lose their charitable status, we'll go nowhere.

00:35:39.420 We'll go nowhere.

00:35:40.200 You know, the apostles weren't afraid of that.

00:35:42.080 They didn't have charitable status.

00:35:43.780 They preached the word and they were punished for it and they resisted and God blessed.

00:35:47.860 So when people decide they want to actually live Christianity, they will, they'll see what God can do about it. 0.97

00:35:56.000 But in the meantime, there's far too much fear of the government and fear of the narrative and fear of public opinion.

00:36:03.080 And we're not to live in fear.

00:36:06.500 Yes, we're not, we're not to live in fear.

00:36:08.800 That sort of gets me to my last question in terms of governments are going to deal with tax-free status for churches.

00:36:18.560 We've already had warnings from Mark Carney that, well, perhaps churches shouldn't be considered as charitable institutions.

00:36:26.320 I've never seen a country that has made the gay pride parade so emblematic of what the country stands about.

00:36:36.940 I mean, we have these gay pride flag raisings all over the country and at schools.

00:36:42.860 And I've been involved with a group that has actually and actively brought children out of schools to protest the gay pride flag raising ceremonies.

00:36:55.440 And I want, you know, I give a shout out to that Leave Our Kids Alone group from Camille Al-Sheikh,

00:37:02.040 who is a Muslim and is doing the job a lot of Christians aren't doing in this country. 0.97

00:37:08.900 I will say that.

00:37:10.440 And Camille is a good friend.

00:37:12.280 And I work with him every year in the Million Person March.

00:37:16.400 But every year in Parliament Hill is a gay pride flag raising.

00:37:22.180 And, of course, if you don't attend, it's a horrible thing.

00:37:27.740 And Pierre Pauly, I think the last year he didn't attend, one year he did.

00:37:34.220 And I think the former leader of the opposition was there dutifully because I think he really supported it.

00:37:42.740 Andrew Scheer missed it a couple of times because I think he's a fairly consistent Roman Catholic who really doesn't buy this nonsense. 1.00

00:37:53.840 But do you see a day coming?

00:37:56.320 And God knows in the way this country is sliding downhill, I really think we're in a race with the United Kingdom in terms of who can reach hell faster as a country.

00:38:09.280 Because we're deteriorating at an alarming rate.

00:38:13.060 Can you see a day coming when churches will be forced or asked to fly the gay pride parade or else no more tax-free status?

00:38:29.560 It's over for you.

00:38:31.380 I think that's a distinct possibility.

00:38:32.980 I mean, you look in China, and I'm not well-versed on it, but China has state-approved churches.

00:38:40.280 And I'm sure those state-approved churches have status that non-state-approved churches don't.

00:38:47.060 And you remember Mr. Trudeau, he admired the Chinese form of dictatorship.

00:38:54.040 And we're seeing it in a multiplied fashion almost under Mr. Carney.

00:38:58.760 And, yeah, I think that's absolutely a direction we could head.

00:39:03.820 And I think charitable status will be something that's brought up and made a real issue that will concern a lot of people.

00:39:13.380 Yeah, I think that day is coming.

00:39:18.500 How is Josh doing?

00:39:20.320 I haven't talked to Josh in quite a while.

00:39:22.240 How is your son doing?

00:39:23.520 He's good.

00:39:24.180 He's good.

00:39:24.760 He's doing very well.

00:39:25.400 So, not allowed in school, but he's doing some other things and making his own way.

00:39:30.900 So, he's got continuing court actions.

00:39:33.540 He's appealing the last decision that didn't go his way.

00:39:36.380 So, it's still alive.

00:39:39.420 Well, clearly, your son is very much a product of his mom and dad who share not only his religious and faith convictions, but his courage.

00:39:49.080 And I think that's one of the reasons I wanted you on the show today, Matt, is because I think what you're demonstrating, what you have demonstrated, is courage.

00:39:58.100 And thank you for differentiating between, yes, we have to be subservient Christians to everything the government says, and what we read in the book of Acts, where we had Peter, Paul, and other apostles out preaching the gospel against the edict of the Roman Empire.

00:40:17.860 And had they, you know, had they interpreted subservience of the government in the way that many Christians do today, I don't think, you know, Christianity would never have been heard beyond Jerusalem. 0.73

00:40:30.980 They would have kept it in the church.

00:40:32.880 They would have kept it in the church.

00:40:33.540 Yes.

00:40:35.080 And it's marvelous.

00:40:37.380 So, thank you for your courage.

00:40:38.800 Thank you for being here today.

00:40:40.460 And, you know, I encourage everybody who watched, please share this broadcast, share this interview, because what we're talking about today is not something about the far future.

00:40:53.140 This is now.

00:40:54.620 If you're a Christian, you've lost your rights. 0.71

00:40:58.220 And if you're not a Christian and you have views the government doesn't approve of, you could soon lose yours, too.

00:41:05.360 Because, in the end, it's all about the narrative the government wants you to embrace.

00:41:11.900 And so, thank you again, Matt.

00:41:13.620 It's been a pleasure.

00:41:15.220 And please stay in touch and give my best to your wife, Nicole.

00:41:20.440 Will do.

00:41:20.860 Thanks for having me.

00:41:23.120 Thank you for being here.

00:41:25.260 That, of course, was Matt Alexander.

00:41:26.940 What a fantastic interview.

00:41:28.220 And I had more material to show you today.

00:41:32.940 We're going to be dealing with the recent interview from the U.S. ambassador to Canada, Pete Hextra, which I'm trying to line up in my own interview with him.

00:41:45.600 But we'll be back in a minute with some more.

00:41:47.460 Thank you.

00:42:02.940 Thank you.

00:42:32.940 So, of course, today is the day of the Alaska, the Anchorage Summit,

00:42:59.440 where President Donald Trump sits down with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

00:43:06.240 We'll see what happens.

00:43:07.840 And I think there has to be a realization that Russia has won this war, that Ukraine cannot be a member of NATO.

00:43:14.160 But we'll see what happens.

00:43:15.380 Every day, Donald Trump seems to have a different message.

00:43:18.020 So, we'll see what his message is today.

00:43:20.460 It's always interesting.

00:43:21.480 And I was going to show you this Pete Hextra interview, but I think we're kind of running short on time.

00:43:28.800 That'll be on tomorrow.

00:43:29.840 But Hextra is saying that Canada is the one putting tariffs on items that are covered by the USMCA or KUSMA, as we call it. 0.99

00:43:40.140 And I still say USMCA, and KUSMA is kind of stupid. 0.97

00:43:46.800 But that's what's happening. 0.99

00:43:50.520 And the pushback from Canada and the volatile events and the intimidation attempts are much stronger from Canada than the US.

00:44:03.400 So, I'm going to try to get Pete Hextra on the show next week to talk about these issues.

00:44:09.960 And I know he's done a lot of interviews lately, so he should probably be able to do that.

00:44:15.300 And, of course, we'll also tomorrow be looking at the results of today's summit in Anchorage.

00:44:22.920 And they should be absolutely fascinating.

00:44:25.880 So, thank you so much for watching today.

00:44:27.760 It's always a pleasure to host this show.

00:44:29.560 So, thank you, and please, again, share this broadcast with your friends and family.

00:44:34.660 Let's keep moving up.

00:44:36.540 And don't despair.

00:44:38.780 We win in the end.

00:44:40.900 I read the book.

00:44:42.660 And that's how it goes.

00:44:44.400 So, as dark as things go, there is really light, literal light, at the end of the tunnel.

00:44:53.700 Thanks for watching.

00:44:54.660 This has been David Creighton broadcasting to you live from Ottawa.

00:44:59.080 Bye for now.

Stand on Guard with David Krayden - August 15, 2025

＂I feel I have a target on my back＂ Outrageous Treatment of ON Teachers EXPOSED ｜ Stand on Guard

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