Matt Alexander and his wife, Nicole, were recently terminated as Ottawa teachers because they weren t sufficiently enthusiastic about Pride Month, Pride Season, and the raising of the gay pride flag. When we get back, Matt is standing by.
00:02:49.660Because I know when your son, Josh, and we'll get into this later, of course, you were the parents of Josh Alexander, the Ottawa high school student who was banished from his school for daring to question males or boys, essentially, teenage boys using teenage girls' bathrooms.
00:03:06.400He stood up for the girls in his school, and he was summarily tossed out.
00:03:11.120Everybody I know is very familiar with that story.
00:03:15.020But a question, really, to start with here is, was it the Ottawa school board did this?
00:03:36.780So my wife and I worked for the Renfrew County District School Board.
00:03:40.840And Josh was, when he had his fiasco, he was attending the Renfrew County Catholic District School Board.
00:03:48.840So he was in the same county, just he was attending the Catholic School.
00:03:52.280And that's when he got into his difficulties with that school board.
00:03:57.980And so, you know, a year or so later, my wife and I were suspended and shortly thereafter terminated with cause from the public school board in Renfrew County.
00:05:41.380So I found out that it seems it was anonymous posts that were made about me, related to Josh, that brought the frown from the school board, I guess.
00:05:52.380And they decided to initiate the suspension and to investigate us and looking for issues.
00:07:09.880So that's what Nicole meant in her email to me where she said she was basically suspended and then terminated because she wasn't sufficiently supporting the pride activities.
00:07:23.480And so, but you, it sounds like what you're telling me now is that you were suspended and eventually terminated just for being the father of Josh Alexander.
00:07:32.960And that's all there really was to it.
00:07:35.860So that, well, we can surmise why, but there was much chagrin and concern regarding my connection to Josh for sure.
00:07:51.240But I got social media afterwards, after being suspended, I got social media and I said, well, you know, I'm going to put out my, my, my Christian beliefs out there.
00:08:00.920If I'm being suspended for not even having it, I'm going to do it.
00:11:01.660But from what you're describing, though, it sounds to me, and I'm sure you would agree,
00:11:06.680that there's definite collusion here between the union, the teachers union, the school boards and local governments,
00:11:15.280that they're all in this together because they want you out of there because you're refusing to accept, embrace, and promote the LGBTQ narrative.
00:11:25.240And when you're guilty of that, then there's really no recourse.
00:11:30.620But would you say there's definitely a collusion going on between these agencies?
00:11:37.220Well, I don't want to allege what I don't know.
00:11:40.220But what I can attest to is that they are on the same side ideologically.
00:11:46.240The teaching union pushes the LGBTQ agenda as much or more than the school board does.
00:11:53.280So when we're found in violation of the law, the question is, am I getting fair representation from my union when my union is opposed to my beliefs?
00:12:12.120They certainly collaborate on publications and promotions of pride events, you know, different events that go on for the students to promote rainbow things with the kids.
00:12:38.520When I was thinking of some questions this morning, it occurred to me, and I don't think this has ever occurred to me in quite this way before.
00:12:48.720But, of course, we all know in 1968 when Pierre Trudeau, prior to his becoming liberal leader and then prime minister, was the justice minister into the Lester Pearson government.
00:13:00.400And it was Pierre Trudeau who legalized homosexuality.
00:13:03.980And a lot of people think, wow, wow, it was really illegal prior to me.
00:13:07.380Yes, prior to 1968, homosexuality was illegal.
00:13:10.680And, of course, his famous justification was that the state has no place in the bedrooms of the nations.
00:13:17.400But I was thinking this morning, what an irony we are facing today.
00:13:22.100Because the whole LGBTQ phenomena movement has absolutely nothing now to do with privacy in the bedroom.
00:13:30.300It's intrusive behavior in the public square and insistence that you and I embrace it or else there's consequences.
00:14:26.240But things go on at these pride parades that would never be accepted or in any way embraced by either the public or the police.
00:14:36.640Because we have sometimes full nudity going on here, especially in the Toronto parade.
00:14:41.420We've seen incredible things going on in Ottawa in the last couple of years.
00:14:47.120And people somehow just say, well, you know, I can't object to that because this is a protected group.
00:14:53.240This is a politically protected group.
00:14:55.240And the police are often around, but they have 100% failure rate at arresting anybody for lewd or obscene activities.
00:15:07.840And when I was talking to a Justice Center lawyer the other day, he reminded me about something called community standards, which used to be very important in law.
00:15:20.980But it doesn't seem to apply to the pride parades.
00:15:41.560But the irony, again, for me is that that is allowed to happen.
00:15:48.400But you are not allowed to say, I'm sorry, I really object to this because this is really nothing but a celebration of cyberitic rites, of hedonism.
00:15:58.300And I don't think children as young as grade three should have to be exposed to this kind of sexuality.
00:16:07.600Or for that matter, at that age, any kind of sexuality.
00:16:35.360It's about everything this country used to be and is no longer.
00:16:39.380And I think that's why what you represent here is how a Christian person, and I'm an evangelical Christian myself, and believe me, I understand exactly what suppression is all about.
00:16:54.300And I understand exactly how you can offend the wrong people by quoting the Bible.
00:17:00.960But do you feel targeted, especially because the hostility in this country, and we'll get to this in a minute, but Sean Foyt, who came to Canada two weeks ago, and thank God, is coming back to Winnipeg in less than a week.
00:17:18.280Sean Foyt was targeted from the minute he steps foot on Canadian soil.
00:17:22.320He was denied access to public fora from the east coast of Toronto.
00:18:06.880There is no freedom of religion anymore.
00:18:08.960And it's going to get worse, I think, rather quickly.
00:18:12.500So the reason we were actually fired, so they suspended us, they investigated, they tried to make concerns about different things which were ridiculous.
00:18:25.540And our union even said, like, Matt hasn't done anything.
00:18:28.940Show me something Matt has done wrong in order to discipline him.
00:18:35.360The board was upset with other people surrounding me.
00:18:39.580So with all that said, what we were actually fired for, David, was that we were given a letter that said, you know, notwithstanding discipline and infractions against board policy,
00:18:55.680if you will, if you will agree to the board guideline, and it's a board guideline, it's not even a provincial guideline,
00:19:03.460the board guideline to celebrate and affirm diversity, LGBTQ, in the classroom, we could have our job back.
00:19:13.080And so that's where Nicole and I said, no, we are Christians.
00:19:17.260We're not going to celebrate that which we don't agree with.
00:19:20.160I'm not going to celebrate Muslim holidays, and I'm not going to celebrate Hindu holidays,
00:19:28.100and I'm not going to celebrate a sexual choice that I don't agree with.
00:19:35.820I don't infringe on the lives of Muslims.
00:19:37.780I don't infringe on the lives of Hindus.
00:19:39.360I don't infringe on the lives of Jews.
00:19:40.900I don't infringe on the lives of homosexuals or transgender.
00:24:22.640And he's somehow campaigning for Donald Trump.
00:24:25.680And he's espousing make America great again views.
00:24:29.740Well, whether or not he does, as far as I'm concerned, that's his right if he wants to do that.
00:24:35.520The irony, of course, here's our third irony for today, was that Sean Foyt never talked about mega or Donald Trump or his political support for anything.
00:24:45.640He talked about Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior of his life.
00:24:54.060And anybody with half a brain who watches the videos that resulted from the concerts he did in churches across eastern and central Canada would probably arrive at that conclusion.
00:25:08.560Hey, this guy wasn't here to talk about Donald Trump.
00:25:11.240He was here like any, like Franklin Graham, who comes to Canada once or twice a year.
00:25:24.360And did you think that was a confirmation of everything that's happened to you, that that's how hostile municipal leaders are in this country?
00:25:39.720I was very disappointed, again, that the conservative leader, Pierre Paglia, said absolutely nothing while this controversy, if you will, was going on.
00:25:53.900And once again, chose to just pretend nothing to see here.
00:25:59.100I expected that from Mark Carney, who, of course, popped up at a gay pride parade in Vancouver embracing a half-nude male.
00:26:07.480That was par for the course for Mark Carney.
00:26:09.980But I would have thought Pierre Paglia would have done a little better, but he didn't.
00:26:15.360Were you surprised that there was absolutely no political?
00:26:21.820There were some conservative MPs who came forth and supported Sean during that week.
00:26:27.740But there was nothing from the leadership of the conservative party and, of course, nothing from Mark Carney even saying, hey, give the guy a break.
00:26:36.560You know, you might not agree with him, but we have freedom of religion in this country.
00:26:52.620I mean, look at our last election campaign.
00:26:56.160The hot button issues that should have been spoken about were either not spoken about by the opposition or if they were, it was a day late and a dollar short.
00:27:09.360It was, you know, snuck in at the very end when it was clear the public opinion wanted some of these issues touched on and they weren't.
00:27:16.060I think Canadians need to evaluate what they want to do and how they want to get their way out of this mess.
00:27:24.900As I've said before, if we allow, and when I say we, I mean anyone who's not on the side of the left or whatever the current narrative is.
00:27:36.500If you want to get out, the only way out is to speak up.
00:27:41.480The tactic that is used by the left, and it's a Marxist communist tactic, is they berate and belittle and insult anyone who opposes.
00:27:50.380And if we, on the other side, are afraid of those insults and afraid of the things that would be said about us, then we automatically submit.
00:28:01.040We bow down and allow them to drive the discussion, and we will never get out of that.
00:28:06.340And what we've seen from most of the, well, I'll say the Conservative Party, has been a lot of cowardice.
00:28:12.780They're afraid to speak on the issues that matter to Canadians, to the issues that are destroying the country.
00:28:18.800And so long as we're afraid to speak, because we're afraid the media is going to say something about us, or some activist is going to say something about us, then you'll continue on allowing them to dominate.
00:28:29.360It's a voluntary submission, and I don't understand it.
00:28:31.680What's required is courage to speak up and say, no, this is how it should be, and people will follow that.
00:28:38.400Yes, and I think you're 100% correct there.
00:28:44.880I was actually working at the time at the House of Commons when the same-sex marriage bill came up under Joan Cretchen.
00:28:52.180And it's amazing to me that 95% of the Conservative caucus was opposed to same-sex marriage at that time.
00:29:02.100There were only a handful of red Tories, like James Moore and others, who stood up and voted with the liberal legislation, because it was a free vote.
00:29:14.020I actually left my job at the House of Commons to fight for marriage, traditional marriage.
00:29:20.920And to this day, I still hold the same view.
00:29:24.060I haven't changed my views because society has changed.
00:29:27.580I haven't changed my views because the Conservative Party has changed.
00:29:30.640And I think if you ask the Conservative Party caucus today who supports same-sex marriage, probably 98% of them would stand up and say, yes, we do.
00:29:41.220And that's how things have changed in the last couple of decades.
00:29:45.160But what amazes me is that we used to think policies and ideas were cemented, and now they're like, they're being drifting in the water.
00:30:03.940And it amazes me that the Conservative Party at that time is not the Conservative Party of today at all.
00:30:12.700And, you know, I would flatly say that I have stayed the same because the Bible stayed the same.
00:30:20.820And I'm sure you would agree that you cannot change with society because the Bible doesn't change.
00:34:39.800I don't know what he is speaking, what he's preaching.
00:34:41.680But absolutely, he has brought light to the fact that the government does not approve of Christianity and the government will persecute at will any Christians who don't conform right to the point of whether or not he supports Donald Trump.
00:34:59.220What does that have to do with anything?
00:35:05.180And if a Christian will speak up, they will be targeted.
00:35:08.100Most Christians are not targeted because they don't speak up.
00:35:12.260They are, they are not just Christians, but everybody is really subject to the golden handcuffs of their pension, of their paycheck, of their perhaps government funding for their organization, of their charitable status.
00:35:29.800And so long as churches are in fear of the government because they don't want to lose their charitable status, we'll go nowhere.
00:36:06.500Yes, we're not, we're not to live in fear.
00:36:08.800That sort of gets me to my last question in terms of governments are going to deal with tax-free status for churches.
00:36:18.560We've already had warnings from Mark Carney that, well, perhaps churches shouldn't be considered as charitable institutions.
00:36:26.320I've never seen a country that has made the gay pride parade so emblematic of what the country stands about.
00:36:36.940I mean, we have these gay pride flag raisings all over the country and at schools.
00:36:42.860And I've been involved with a group that has actually and actively brought children out of schools to protest the gay pride flag raising ceremonies.
00:36:55.440And I want, you know, I give a shout out to that Leave Our Kids Alone group from Camille Al-Sheikh,
00:37:02.040who is a Muslim and is doing the job a lot of Christians aren't doing in this country.
00:37:56.320And God knows in the way this country is sliding downhill, I really think we're in a race with the United Kingdom in terms of who can reach hell faster as a country.
00:38:09.280Because we're deteriorating at an alarming rate.
00:38:13.060Can you see a day coming when churches will be forced or asked to fly the gay pride parade or else no more tax-free status?
00:39:39.420Well, clearly, your son is very much a product of his mom and dad who share not only his religious and faith convictions, but his courage.
00:39:49.080And I think that's one of the reasons I wanted you on the show today, Matt, is because I think what you're demonstrating, what you have demonstrated, is courage.
00:39:58.100And thank you for differentiating between, yes, we have to be subservient Christians to everything the government says, and what we read in the book of Acts, where we had Peter, Paul, and other apostles out preaching the gospel against the edict of the Roman Empire.
00:40:17.860And had they, you know, had they interpreted subservience of the government in the way that many Christians do today, I don't think, you know, Christianity would never have been heard beyond Jerusalem.
00:40:30.980They would have kept it in the church.
00:40:32.880They would have kept it in the church.
00:40:40.460And, you know, I encourage everybody who watched, please share this broadcast, share this interview, because what we're talking about today is not something about the far future.
00:41:28.220And I had more material to show you today.
00:41:32.940We're going to be dealing with the recent interview from the U.S. ambassador to Canada, Pete Hextra, which I'm trying to line up in my own interview with him.
00:41:45.600But we'll be back in a minute with some more.