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Kyle Kemper Speaks Out: Trudeau's Legacy, DOGE, Bobby Kennedy Jr., Trump + more | Stand on Guard


Summary

Kyle Kemper, the brother of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, joins us on the show to talk about his experience in Canada, and his thoughts on the current political climate in the United States. He also talks about his new venture, Club Maha, which is a vehicle to discuss the various Make America Healthy Again initiatives and opportunities.


Transcript

00:00:00.660 Thank you for joining me today on another Stand on Guard episode. My name is David Creighton.
00:00:05.760 So nice to have you here. And as promised, we have Kyle Kemper with us again. It's been
00:00:12.140 far too long since Kyle joined us. And of course, you might know someone named Justin Trudeau. He
00:00:18.240 happens to be the brother of Kyle Kemper. And we're going to focus mainly on Kyle's opinions
00:00:23.960 today. We'll ask a few questions about the other Justin there, but we're going to focus
00:00:30.960 on some other matters. We'll be right back with more.
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00:01:35.720 because people get unsubscribed. Without further ado, though, I want to welcome my guest today,
00:01:40.980 Kyle Kemper. As I said, Justin Trudeau, yep, he's your brother. But you must get tired of people
00:01:49.620 saying Kyle Kemper is the brother of Justin Trudeau. And I think we discussed that the last time.
00:01:55.600 I want to get talking about your life right away because we always get into Canadian politics.
00:02:04.380 I'm not going to get too far into Canadian politics. I want to talk about your experience
00:02:07.860 in the U.S. But what are you doing right now, Kyle, with your life? I know you've got a YouTube
00:02:12.720 station. You talk about crypto. But tell us, what are you doing right now?
00:02:17.920 Well, thanks, David. And great to be on your show again.
00:02:20.420 Right now, what I'm doing is I'm, you know, I worked on the Kennedy campaign for like 500 days
00:02:29.760 and it was kind of all in. And so I have given my wife and my kids a break from all of that. And we
00:02:39.540 came to Colorado and we are spending one month working on skiing. I have altogether six children
00:02:46.100 and have them all together right now. And we are attempting to be on the mountain nearly every
00:02:51.680 day and work on their skiing because it's really important to ski and to teach children when they're
00:02:56.800 young to ski if they want to grow up to be, you know, good skiers and athletes. So that's what I'm
00:03:03.440 doing right now. I'm about to head to Denver and I'm going to go to the ETH Denver conference that
00:03:08.820 kicks off tomorrow through the weekend. And that's a convergence of a bunch of the leading innovators,
00:03:16.740 pioneers, businesses, coders, developers within the decentralized Ethereum space, but also just
00:03:22.820 the crypto space in general. And, you know, following the election of President Trump and the confirmation
00:03:31.720 of Secretary Kennedy, Secretary of HHS, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. We launched Club Maha to create a vehicle
00:03:44.600 to discuss all the various Make America Healthy Again initiatives and opportunities. And we've got
00:03:54.760 a podcast that happens every Wednesday night at 9 p.m. Eastern time on X on Join Club Maha is the handle.
00:04:04.220 You can also follow Ian Carroll, who's one of our hosts. And it's been an incredibly well attended
00:04:11.760 podcast, kind of live discussion of the news of the day. And so we've been doing that and we've been
00:04:20.760 averaging almost 100,000 people a show for the last, this is going to be week eight. So yeah,
00:04:26.720 that's what's kind of cooking here on my end. And yeah, I'm just, you know, forging forward in the
00:04:32.460 best I can and also keeping, you know, a close eye on everything that's happening in Canada. And
00:04:39.580 yeah, I mean, I'd really be interested to hear, you know, how you're feeling, David, about things in
00:04:45.020 Canada right now.
00:04:45.740 Well, we'll get to that in a minute, because I do want your opinion on the liberal leadership
00:04:51.420 race. And I've got a brief, very small clip of that last night, very bizarre moment from last
00:04:58.440 night. But I watched Robert F. Kennedy's swearing in ceremony. And in fact, I showed that to my
00:05:07.320 audience. I was so impressed by it. I don't think anybody else could have said what he said in terms
00:05:12.280 of him feeling that Donald Trump was like a divine intervention in his life, without sounding like
00:05:19.360 a hopeless sycophant. But he made it sound not just sincere, but absolutely true. And I was so
00:05:28.320 impressed with how he responded and how he was so grateful to have this role. And the Democrats tried
00:05:35.840 everything to stop this, of course, even bringing out his cousin, Carolyn Kennedy, to smear him. I just
00:05:43.100 thought that was the most disgusting moment I've ever seen in any confirmation hearing. And it got
00:05:48.400 pretty bad during the last Trump administration, when he was trying to move some justices through
00:05:54.840 the Senate. But this was just absolutely abhorrent behavior, calling him a sexual predator, calling him
00:06:02.020 basically a madman who thought all vaccines were going to kill people. But why was absolutely
00:06:11.340 ecstatic? Because as I said in the last interview, one of the reasons I was excited about the US
00:06:16.760 election in 2024 was the participation of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. I thought this is a guy who is going
00:06:23.700 to shake up America. And when it seemed apparent he wasn't going to win the presidency, I was so happy
00:06:31.200 that Donald Trump did intervene and say, join my team. I'm going to give you a prominent role to
00:06:37.160 make America healthy again. So are you optimistic that we're not just going to see paper, you know,
00:06:43.060 the wallpaper here, that we're going to see real change in how America deals with health?
00:06:50.900 Oh, I'm very, very optimistic, but it's already taking place as well. Like, you know,
00:06:57.560 there are bills passing, you know, all across America right now that I would say are maha,
00:07:04.820 you know, aligned. And, you know, Bobby is getting to work. He has executive orders supporting him,
00:07:12.700 enabling him to get down to business and to start cleaning up, frankly, a very, very large
00:07:21.620 corporate captured mess that represented HHS, NIH, CDC, FDA, and more organizations. So Bobby's got his
00:07:35.240 work cut out for him, but he's not alone. That's the other thing is, you know, within his campaign,
00:07:41.720 so many talented people from many different industries kind of came and brought their energy.
00:07:48.260 And, you know, not everybody, but a lot of people were a little bit let down when, you know,
00:07:55.900 he chose to endorse President Trump. But now that, you know, he's taken office, and we've seen the
00:08:03.600 actions, it's actually very much like almost all the things that Bobby was talking about during his
00:08:10.600 campaign are coming to bear. So really, this is the kind of the best case scenario, in my opinion.
00:08:19.220 And, you know, I really wish Canada would, would kind of chill out on the extreme Trump derangement
00:08:25.880 syndrome. And, you know, we're kind of recognize, you know, how vicious, you know, a media system can be
00:08:34.800 towards polarizing opinion, and festering and foistering hate on individuals. And I think Donald
00:08:44.280 Trump is one of those, you know, key examples. And, you know, you said, heavens, you know, Trump might be
00:08:51.700 like, you know, a savior for America, well, frankly, could also be, you know, a savior for Canada, because
00:08:56.880 the situation in Canada right now, you know, you mentioned liberal leadership, we can get into that.
00:09:03.200 But the entire political landscape, it's, in my opinion, that no longer reflects the will of the
00:09:09.020 people very well.
00:09:11.280 No, I would have to agree with you. I think we're almost at a uniparty level here in Canada. But,
00:09:18.700 you know, I'm very optimistic about the United States. I think Donald Trump is making America
00:09:24.100 great again. I've never seen a flurry of activity like this. I would even compare it to Franklin
00:09:29.740 Roosevelt in 1933. Incredible amount of, from a different perspective, obviously, but in terms of
00:09:37.600 activity, and coming through on promises, Donald Trump is a president who delivers, unlike so many
00:09:45.560 presidents who just talk about these things. And you think, well, he's not really going to do it,
00:09:49.580 is he? Yes, he started on day one. And the first 100 days are going to be historic, unlike so many
00:09:57.460 other presidencies. But what really worries me, and you talked about Canada, you have a unique
00:10:03.860 transnational perspective. I mean, you were born in Canada, you're raised in Canada, you're living in
00:10:08.960 the US right now. You understand both countries very well. I think the last thing both of our
00:10:15.780 countries need is a trade war. And I'm very disheartened to hear Donald Trump talk about
00:10:21.800 March 4th, putting on this 25% tariff. I think it's going to be devastating for Canada. I think
00:10:28.880 it's going to be catastrophic for our economy. And I'm looking for any way out of this. And I don't
00:10:35.840 think Trudeau has delivered on his promises for border security. He has changed the deck chairs on the
00:10:43.460 Titanic. You know, he did not put a 10,000 people at the border, like he promised. And I point that
00:10:49.460 out every day to people. Trudeau promised 10,000 frontline personnel, they're not there. He's delivered
00:10:57.060 on a fentanyl czar. But this is a guy, again, who is closely linked with the Trudeau government. So I'm
00:11:05.400 not sure this is the right person for the job. But what are your feelings about the tariffs in this
00:11:10.900 trade war? Can we somehow get out of this and get back to a relationship where both countries can
00:11:18.480 help each other with their trade and their economies? Well, I mean, I feel like we should
00:11:26.360 be engaging in more discourse about the ideal outcome for North America, for Canada, for the United
00:11:33.780 States. Instead, it's been very reactionary and slogany. You know, when Trump started using the
00:11:44.820 51st state and the governor, he proposed a couple things like, you know, the notion of, you know,
00:11:51.780 the Canadian dollars would all be kind of, you know, brought to brought to parity, there'd be open
00:11:57.000 borders. He outlined like some kind of opportunities, but it wouldn't be worth, I think, you know,
00:12:03.220 having, you know, a critical discussion about, you know, what a more integrated system looks like.
00:12:12.620 Because, you know, one of the things that's doing incredible work in America right now and
00:12:16.660 highlighting the inefficiencies and corruption and systemic waste is DOGE, the Department of
00:12:22.640 Governmental Efficiency, you know, headed up by Elon Musk. Canada desperately, desperately needs
00:12:29.600 something similar because our government has been so, so, so incredibly wasteful and secretive and
00:12:38.480 corrupt. And that's just a product of a very centralized system over time. It becomes more
00:12:44.040 secretive and more corrupt. And we're dealing with almost peak centralization from the Canadian
00:12:48.200 government right now. And, you know, there is just massive spending. I remember Chrystia Freeland,
00:12:53.000 a number of years ago, you know, when asked, where did $10 billion in infrastructure spending go?
00:12:57.880 She just, I just, I can't tell you. We don't, we don't know. And you look at, you look at all,
00:13:05.180 you look at all this spending that took place and with the, you know, with the Ukraine debacle,
00:13:09.120 with the COVID debacle, with the, you know, with the, with the fake vaccines, all of that stuff.
00:13:14.940 Like, you know, there's just so much waste going on and there's people taking, taking points all
00:13:20.840 across the, across the board. And we desperately need that because ultimately that's wealth transference
00:13:26.240 from the people of Canada into, you know, the hands of the few. And then it turns out the people,
00:13:31.000 these few are then holding, you know, levers of power over Canadian society in much greater
00:13:37.800 proportion than, you know, we, the people do. And then we, the people, like, you know, when we stand
00:13:43.880 up, for example, with the Freedom Convoy, you know, Pat King, fortunately, you know, has been released
00:13:49.840 on, you know, with three, with a kind of a three month kind of conditional sentence.
00:13:54.600 But still, I mean, the man went through basically torture, you know, as a result of, of, of standing
00:14:00.400 up and protesting against, against, you know, what he, what he and many others deemed to be massive
00:14:07.500 government overrage and overstepping and violations of, you know, the Canadian Charter of Rights and
00:14:12.800 Freedoms and more.
00:14:14.320 Yeah. Yeah. I'm glad you mentioned Doge because I, I, we put this together the other day.
00:14:20.240 I think you'll like this.
00:14:24.620 This is the chainsaw for bureaucracy.
00:14:29.560 Chainsaw.
00:14:39.080 You can't handle the truth.
00:14:40.860 Yes. Do we need a Doge in Canada? You bet. I can't agree more with you. And they will find
00:14:51.160 more horrifying facts. It's like reading the budget, Kyle. You know, they don't talk about
00:14:58.100 what's really in the budget during the budget speech every year. It's when you read the estimates,
00:15:03.460 when you go through the fine print and you say, holy hell, they're spending how many hundreds of
00:15:09.440 millions of dollars on this. They never talk about it. They just spend it. It's like a,
00:15:13.880 it's almost like a black ops budget. And it's all of these crazy things that these governments are
00:15:19.440 spending money on. They never talk about them. They don't advertise. They just quietly spend the
00:15:23.700 money and hope nobody notices. So this is what Doge is doing in the States. And I, you know, I applaud
00:15:28.640 them. I think it's fantastic. And it's just, it's getting back to what America for me always was
00:15:35.880 about, you know, whether it was Ronald Reagan or whether it was people who stood up for less
00:15:41.440 government. And you go back to Ralph Waldo Emerson, I think who first said it, that government is best,
00:15:48.180 which governs least. Thomas Jefferson repeated it over and over again. But that's what I want to see
00:15:53.840 from government. Get out of my life. Stop telling me how to live, how to think. Stop spending my money
00:15:59.040 on useless projects. And stop telling me that my speech doesn't matter. And that I don't have free
00:16:07.480 speech anymore. And anything I say that you disagree with is disinformation. And I'm hearing this from
00:16:13.100 so many governments. And I'm not hearing this from Donald Trump. Thank God. He's saying, forget the DEI.
00:16:19.400 Forget the critical race theory. Forget the disinformation bureau. We're going to have free speech again.
00:16:26.040 And we've got a guy like Elon Musk out there with the chainsaw. I love it. I love what's
00:16:32.440 happening in the U.S. And what I'm saying to Canadian politicians like Pierpoliev is stop trying
00:16:39.160 to distance yourself from Donald Trump. Say, here I am. Donald Trump doesn't know Pierpoliev exists. I can
00:16:45.880 tell you this. He thinks Wayne Gretzky is going, it could be the next Canadian prime minister. Donald Trump
00:16:51.680 does not know who Pierpoliev is. So what is Pierpoliev doing? He's getting up on the stage and saying,
00:16:58.600 we're going to get just as tough as the liberals on Donald Trump. We're going to be just as anti-American
00:17:04.120 as Donald Trump. And it's fracturing his base. Believe me, I see the comments every day.
00:17:11.080 Pierpoliev is losing people very quickly. His words, his politicking that he is doing is not
00:17:21.580 identifying himself as a free-thinking populist that really cares about freedom within Canada.
00:17:31.760 His pandering to Ukraine, his reactionary words towards Trump. No, it's like he's literally,
00:17:44.620 in my opinion, he's just such a career politician who listens to the polls and the party probably so
00:17:54.220 heavily in dictating it. That's why he never out of principle stood up against,
00:18:01.740 frankly, the tantamounted genocide that took place against the Canadian population through the
00:18:09.640 forced injections with no informed consent of an experimental gene therapy serum that continues
00:18:17.100 to be pushed. Thankfully, in America, it looks like those days are over. But in Canada, there's still
00:18:24.880 no acknowledgement around that. Orphanus, you know, with the truckers and the Freedom Convoy, you know,
00:18:32.920 really representing them. He never talked about Pat King. He never talked about the Coots boys and how they're
00:18:38.360 basically, you know, victims of lawfare and political, basically political prisoners. You know, he continues to
00:18:46.960 pander to this Ukraine situation when this is not on the first agenda.
00:18:52.660 But of course, we know that the vaccine is safe and effective.
00:18:56.060 We have to keep saying that.
00:18:58.320 In a classic, like, you know, government situation, like, you know, he berated Justin and the Liberals for,
00:19:06.960 you know, for not getting the vaccines out fast enough.
00:19:09.180 You know, but that, but again, like, that's the, that is just the essence of, you know, the, this,
00:19:15.340 the system of government that we have. It's like one person says up, the other just says down.
00:19:19.700 There is no, there's no talking about, you know, what our ideal outcome is. And, you know, and why
00:19:25.980 wouldn't, at this moment, Pierre, why don't you encourage Doge? Why don't you say, damn it, we need
00:19:33.220 Doge here in America. We are in Canada. Exactly. We need Doge. Everything has gone completely out of
00:19:39.680 control. We need, we need to, we need some understanding because, you know, our cost overruns are so high
00:19:45.400 that we cannot afford this anymore. And honestly, we should, we should sit down at the table, you know,
00:19:51.140 with President Trump and have, have an open explorer, exploratory discussion. I mean, honestly, I don't see
00:19:57.920 why we need a federal government in Canada anymore. I just don't see the, any value that it's actually
00:20:02.760 adding other than just sucking away. The provinces are akin to the States. The provinces all kind of
00:20:08.560 manage themselves. And even if we had America as a protectorate, like, you know, overseeing
00:20:12.680 everything, let's at least like, let's, let's explore that because I don't know what the federal
00:20:17.500 government is frankly doing other than spending way more money than it's bringing in and taxing the
00:20:24.880 hell out of Canadians to the point where good, hardworking, earning Canadians want to leave,
00:20:29.380 or they're not able to actually earn enough to not even, not thrive, like just survive.
00:20:38.000 We have an idea of Canadians are not able to thrive. We are not, they're not like excelling
00:20:45.000 and reaching their full potential. They're basically surviving because our taxation system
00:20:50.800 is so punitive, is so punitive. And you talk about a 25% tariff coming on board, like, okay,
00:20:57.020 like, you know, that, that, that will hurt, but carbon tax also hurts, you know, you know,
00:21:03.780 heavy, heavy income tax is, is brutal. Capital gains tax, death tax, estate tax, you know,
00:21:13.020 they, they just continue to add up. Then you throw on like, you know, a crazy surveillance society
00:21:18.260 from like, you know, heavy, heavy duty municipal taxes, but also serious municipal fines as well.
00:21:25.120 So for example, in Ottawa, you know, the size of the Ottawa bylaw, you know, in bylaw team,
00:21:32.300 it's massive, which requires them to go out and give out tons and tons and tons of fines just to
00:21:38.400 pay for themselves. So it's like, you know, this is just the, the same with a lot of the police too.
00:21:43.360 They, you know, those, all those additional fines and tickets that get levied on the population,
00:21:48.960 many of which are victimless crimes. You know, you've got now got speed cameras,
00:21:53.100 you've got red light cameras. Some of the red light cameras even have short yellow lights.
00:21:57.480 It's very deceptive, very, very deceptive, harmful, like economically, spiritually to society.
00:22:07.760 And, you know, they've been really leaning into this. So it's time to really, you know,
00:22:13.100 think critically, but what it is we want of Canada, how do we, what are the ideal outcomes
00:22:19.380 that we would like to see? Personally, I would like to see income tax completely gotten rid of
00:22:24.620 in Canada, which wouldn't, yes, capital to flow back into Canada and do a spending Canada.
00:22:32.580 We need to reduce the size of our government right now. What the Canadian, with the Canadian
00:22:37.680 government, media, corporatocracy has done is they've really punched down on Canadians. The point
00:22:45.040 where they've created a, in my opinion, a fairly desperate society and not everybody, but, but like
00:22:52.060 at a macro level and they've encouraged. And as a result of this, a lot of the leading innovators,
00:22:58.380 pioneers, entrepreneurs, new business creators end up leaving Canada. So they, they recognize as soon
00:23:07.520 as you see some success within Canada, you're going to leave. And there's a few, there's a few examples,
00:23:13.040 like, you know, Tobias Lutke and Harley Finkelstein from, from Shopify. But even, I feel like they're
00:23:18.080 to the point right now that they're, they're probably getting ready. They're getting ready
00:23:21.720 to leave. You know, it's just, it's just too punitive. The government wants to take all your
00:23:25.400 money. They want to control you. So what do you do? You leave. And then you take all that wealth with
00:23:29.620 you and you go spend that wealth and develop that wealth somewhere else. Whereas in Canada, if we were
00:23:34.340 to remove and eliminate the income tax and make spring, spring again, make spring fun again,
00:23:39.180 you know, we would have the opportunity for wealth that's all over the world, that's sitting on the
00:23:44.360 sidelines to come back to Canada, to be spending Canada, to be invested in Canada, to grow, grow.
00:23:50.300 But I don't think, you know, it's going to, it takes gumption and it takes, it takes, it takes courage
00:23:55.380 in order to like, well, yes, it's a Laurentian club system. So think about that.
00:23:59.900 I, I, I can't believe we are so on the same page, Kyle, with all of this, because I, I never will be
00:24:07.400 in any politician's pocket. I will criticize politicians, even though I want a change in
00:24:12.080 government. I want to see the conservatives take the next election. I'm going to keep criticizing
00:24:17.800 Pierre Poliv when he's wrong on issues. And you know, he's wrong on Ukraine. You've mentioned this. He's
00:24:22.880 dead wrong on Ukraine. And yesterday he was going on and on and on about how horrible it was that this
00:24:28.660 war started, even though it started in 2014, not 2022. Doesn't, he doesn't realize that. But here's
00:24:34.800 the story, Kyle, nobody has reported this. Like your brother announced that he was going to give
00:24:41.720 Ukraine $5 billion in seized Russian assets. So I looked it up and I said, really, we've got that
00:24:51.360 much in seized Russian assets? No, we don't have that much in seized Russian assets. We have
00:24:58.660 about a hundred million dollars in seized Russian assets. Where is he going to come up with the
00:25:05.280 other $4.9 billion? This is absolutely nobody over there. Let's just, let's front the money to
00:25:14.000 them and we'll, we'll, we'll reconcile it later through our accounting procedures. Now, I mean,
00:25:18.500 that's, that's, that's another, I mean, we, we also, we also like at the outset of the war,
00:25:23.680 we, you know, we basically impounded the Antonov kind of commercial, like super plane at the Pearson
00:25:33.260 airport. It's probably still sitting there. And I think we were charging them money. Like it was,
00:25:38.120 it was, we basically stole one of like, you know, their crown jewel planes, you know, as, as a, as,
00:25:44.980 as a punitive effort for, you know, whatever that whole thing was. It was interesting when that,
00:25:52.320 when that, when that, when the script started getting played, because it followed, it followed
00:25:56.340 so tightly to the Freedom Convoy. It was, you know, one day it was all about like, you know,
00:26:00.800 how everybody in the Freedom Convoy were basically like, you know, Nazi terrorists. And then the next
00:26:05.860 day, ooh, Ukraine out of nowhere. And then they just like, you know, what they do with these,
00:26:10.000 with these things is they flood the zone is that flood the zone is the, is the media term. And
00:26:15.540 that's just like, you know, coordinated messaging assault across all different channels. Wouldn't it
00:26:21.460 be nice if they flooded the zone with the need for Doge in Canada, the need for, for serious,
00:26:28.400 serious questioning and like, you know, and looking like, let's use AI to go over and to analyze,
00:26:35.460 you know, the decision-making patterns as well as, you know, the spending patterns.
00:26:40.000 And I don't know necessarily if we need like, you know, Elon Musk to be the one to do that.
00:26:45.460 I'm sure if he was invited to do that, he would, based on the learnings of it, you know, be able
00:26:50.700 to, but it might also be, you know, another big figure because I heard someone say the Canadian
00:26:56.440 Taxpayers Federation is doing like, you know, is, is they're doing Doge. They're like, we're doing
00:27:01.760 Doge already. We just don't have, you know, any awareness. And, you know, that's the sad state of
00:27:06.480 the system. It's like, you know, take someone like Elon to like, you know, create this massive
00:27:11.460 global energy and awareness for it when these things were already happening. Just like all
00:27:16.960 the USAID information, all of that was already public. All of, all of that was already public.
00:27:24.000 But once Doge came along, like the spotlight got shown on it and I'm sure there's already
00:27:30.240 so much visible in plain sight, corrupt, wasteful, useless, zero value adding spending that's
00:27:39.940 taking place. That's full public domain within Canada. It just needs a little bit of effort
00:27:46.260 on behalf of a group towards understanding and highlighting it. And it will likely take,
00:27:53.360 you know, potentially like a celebrity like figure or a powerful business figure to, you know,
00:28:01.080 drive that home. Like, you know, I'd invite, for example, like, yeah, Kevin O'Leary. I'm not so
00:28:06.860 sure. I like Robert Herjavec though. I think he's interesting. I think some of like, you know,
00:28:10.580 the rest of that Dragon's Den crew, you know, could be, could, there's some, some interest there.
00:28:17.260 Certainly Toby Lutke and Harley Finkelstein, like, you know, they're, they're, they're two of the
00:28:22.360 most celebrated kind of entrepreneurs in Canada who have been critics of, you know, the situation.
00:28:28.760 I would also say, however, they were, they were complicit in the COVID tyranny and they,
00:28:39.740 and their business Shopify prospered very strongly as a result of the lockdowns and, and all that
00:28:49.480 madness. So anyways, but, but that's, that's kind of, you know, where, where my, my feelings
00:28:55.880 kind of lie on that note. Well, you, you, you mentioned the fact that, you know, nobody is
00:29:03.440 really talking about doge in Canada, especially Pierre Pauly. He talks about cutting foreign aid to
00:29:08.780 dictatorships. Wow. That's really, really controversial. What about Ukraine?
00:29:13.280 Nice. Well, yeah, start with Ukraine. That's a dictatorship. So how serious is he?
00:29:20.120 He won't talk about them. It's not a dictatorship. It's a, it's not, it's a, it's a, it's a democracy.
00:29:25.280 It's a shining example of democracy. That's what I always say. Ukraine is a shining example of
00:29:29.940 democracy, except there's no elections. There's no countermedia. It's like, you know, if that's a
00:29:34.920 shining, if that's what you believe is a shining example of democracy, holy smokes, what is Canada
00:29:42.080 like, you know, a five diamond democracy probably.
00:29:45.520 Well, yeah, exactly, exactly. And want to shift here to, because we're, this could go on and on and
00:29:55.280 on, because I just love talking to you. But Mark Carney, the apparent anointed successor to your brother.
00:30:01.660 There. You're muted.
00:30:10.980 And Mike, I'll tell you why Mark Carney concerns me is because this guy is not just a globalist
00:30:17.540 extremist. He is somebody who completely distrusts democracy. And he's apparently going up in the
00:30:27.180 surging in the polls. I don't understand why. But bear with me for a second. Here's a clip from
00:30:33.780 last night's liberal leadership debate. And this is how crazy the conversation is.
00:30:40.060 The U.S. rather than guaranteeing for the first time since the second world war,
00:30:44.480 rather than guaranteeing the rules based order, the U.S. is turning predator. And so what Canada
00:30:50.080 needs to do is work closely with our democratic allies, our military allies. I've been foreign
00:30:56.560 minister. I know how to do that. That's why I would start with our Nordic partners, specifically
00:31:02.360 Denmark, which is also being threatened, and our European NATO allies. I would be sure that France
00:31:08.400 and Britain were there who possess nuclear weapons. And I would be working urgently with those partners
00:31:15.220 to build a closer security relationship that guarantees our security in a time when the United
00:31:21.600 States can be a threat. And I would also crucially reach out to our Asian democratic partners, Japan,
00:31:31.360 South Korea, Australia. They need to be part of the conversation too. We need to be ready for a world
00:31:36.920 where the U.S. is not the leader of the free world anymore. Canada can be and must be a leader in
00:31:44.620 building this new order. Our allies are looking to us and build a new world order where democracy
00:31:51.300 and Canadian sovereignty is protected. Mr. Carney, you're up next.
00:31:56.220 I'm going to associate myself. I'm going to agree with that. The only amendment I'm going to make
00:32:00.740 is, unfortunately, it won't be a world order. It will be a subset of the world order because the
00:32:06.060 number of like-minded countries is much smaller with the U.S. exiting.
00:32:10.000 Then why won't you proactively disclose your corporate action?
00:32:12.260 Just to be honest, I'm in the middle of a leadership campaign. I will be subject to all the
00:32:17.740 conflict of interest rules and the ethics rules. I will happily comply with all of them. It's a
00:32:22.520 straightforward process. That will begin as soon as this process ends if I'm selected as leader of
00:32:30.140 the Liberal Party.
00:32:30.940 You were the vice chairman at Brookfield Asset Management prior to-
00:32:33.940 The chair. I was the chair.
00:32:35.940 Sorry. In the fall, they moved their head office from Toronto to New York. Did you approve of
00:32:42.240 that decision and what does this say about your commitment to growing Canada's economy and
00:32:47.720 betting on Canada as for now?
00:32:50.620 There's a hand.
00:32:52.500 Two things. I'll just correct a few factual things. One, I was chair of Brookfield Asset
00:32:58.540 Management. I ceased to be chair on the 15th, I think, of January when I announced for leadership.
00:33:07.080 I ceased to be chair of Bloomberg as well. Ceased to be United Nations Special Envoy on Climate Action
00:33:13.560 Finance. Ceased to be a number of other things. So I resigned all my positions because I am all in
00:33:18.080 for Canada, all in for this leadership, all in during this time of crisis to build our great country.
00:33:24.520 Second-
00:33:25.400 He goes on and on and on about how he's building Canada. This is a guy who has directorships on
00:33:33.860 20 corporations. He uses Brookfield. He has used Brookfield to buy fossil fuels that he decries so
00:33:42.240 much. This is a globalist, elitist, multi-millionaire who wants to just become prime minister overnight
00:33:50.840 and wield power over the Canadian people. What do you think of, what do you think of Mark Carney?
00:33:55.620 Well, and post-selection, probably renegotiate the election terms and just continue to hold
00:34:05.400 unelected power for, you know, potentially another year or more. You know, that man, he just represents,
00:34:13.360 again, the corporatocracy's interest. It's, you know, of the party, by the party, for the party,
00:34:19.320 and he would be the selector selected. And, uh, I don't trust him. Uh, and I would say,
00:34:29.480 oh my gosh, Christia Freeland, that rhetoric that she is pushing, holy smokes, like, you know,
00:34:38.180 talk about just this, then, and this is, and this is like, you know, highlights the situation that
00:34:44.860 we're in right now between the, you know, this new world order, global corporate, corporatocracy,
00:34:52.700 cabal spider, whatever you want to like, you know, label you want to put in on onto it. And like,
00:35:00.000 you know, she represents and the fighting, you know, dying talons of it, you know, especially when
00:35:07.140 Donald Trump and, you know, America is going through, um, you know, it's purging and cleansing
00:35:15.800 of a lot of these, you know, deep, dark control mechanisms, which, you know, continue to hold,
00:35:24.080 but those talons are strong in Canada. And Christia Freeland is, you know, will continue to represent
00:35:31.760 and push them. And, you know, and she's choosing very, uh, you know, very big, big words here.
00:35:37.740 But again, all that she has is words. She's completely full of shit in my opinion. And, um,
00:35:45.000 she's, she's, uh, yeah, I don't want to, I don't want to talk too much about her because she's
00:35:50.660 frankly, doesn't deserve it. And she has, you know, committed such grave overspending and
00:35:57.300 mismanagement and destruction of, of the, of the Canadian, uh, society and economy under,
00:36:05.520 you know, her. Yeah. Well, it's, it's, it's been clear to me for quite some time, the liberal party
00:36:12.160 of Canada, whether it's led by Justin Trudeau or by Mark Carney or by Christia Freeland wants this next
00:36:20.760 election to be about Canada versus the U S they want to run against Donald Trump. And this is why
00:36:26.960 they're demonizing Donald Trump. This is why they're suggesting that they don't even talk
00:36:31.820 about Pierre anymore. You don't even talk about Pierre. It's all about Trump. This is back to this,
00:36:36.480 like, you know, continue. Yeah. Well, that's exactly what I'm saying is that they don't even
00:36:42.720 talk about the, the official opposition. There is no official opposition. We don't have a parliament
00:36:47.140 meeting for God's sake. We have a, this government that just meets in secret once a week, makes
00:36:52.960 decisions and tells us what's going to happen, including doubling the budget for CBC, which my
00:36:59.440 viewers are saying, Oh, where did this come from? And this is all being done behind closed doors.
00:37:05.300 There's no question period right now. There's not, no parliament meeting and they could keep on doing
00:37:10.200 this indefinitely if they want to, because this is a governor general who will just say, fine, do it.
00:37:16.740 We'll, we'll agree to this. But what really angers me in this whole process is that we are not
00:37:23.560 getting, we're not allowed to say, this is not about Donald Trump. This is, this is about a liberal
00:37:29.220 regime that has tortured Canadians, that has taken our freedom away, taken our freedom of speech away,
00:37:35.560 that has totally, that has an institution of euthanasia where people are coming around the world
00:37:43.260 to commit suicide. This is a government of death. And we are not even allowed to talk about them in
00:37:48.660 that it's all about Donald Trump, this evil Donald Trump and, and, and, and the Americans now. And we
00:37:55.200 have, we have moved beyond logical, rational, political debate in this country. And unfortunately,
00:38:00.940 Faripaliev is playing right into this and he needs to get it back to who the real enemy here is. It's
00:38:07.560 not Donald Trump. It's not the Americans. It's Justin Trudeau, the liberal party, Mark Carney. These are
00:38:13.240 the people who have upset the Canadian economy for the past decade. We need to get back to that.
00:38:18.600 And, and we're not, we're not seeing that. So, you know, I stand up every day and I say,
00:38:24.180 Donald Trump, stop giving the liberal party a lifeline. Let's get back to what's important for
00:38:31.720 these two countries. Let's get, get back to rational negotiation and discussion. And,
00:38:37.980 pure apology, if you can't figure this out, somebody has to figure it out for you.
00:38:41.280 You're being used, you're being played here. You're being played by the globalists, by the people who
00:38:47.320 want to keep, put Mark Carney in charge. And he's surged in the polls, apparently. I don't really
00:38:52.360 believe the extent to which he supposedly surged in the polls. But I, but I do think there's a,
00:38:58.520 there's a problem here with Canadians being totally sidetracked in terms of their perceptions about
00:39:06.220 what's important to them. They can't afford to live anymore. You started the conversation off
00:39:11.500 this way. Canadians can't afford to live anymore, to put food on the table. They've got a carbon tax
00:39:17.600 that's going up again in a couple of months. And it's going to be just like a, another, and Mark
00:39:23.300 Carney, and this will interest you. If you don't know this, I'm sure you do. Mark Carney is proposing a
00:39:29.020 carbon tariff. And if you, and you've already mentioned the fact that can, the companies are
00:39:34.400 leaving Canada in, in droves because it's the, the environment for doing business is that much
00:39:42.180 better south of the border. But if this carbon tariff goes through along with his corporate
00:39:48.620 carbon tax, we're going to be looking at huge
00:39:52.680 emigration of corporations leaving Canada for the U.S. because they're going to say,
00:40:00.300 why should I do business in Canada when I'm being punished? Because you said taxes are punitive.
00:40:05.900 That's all taxes are now. Governments don't need the money. They just print it. They just print the
00:40:11.620 money. No. Taxes have become a punitive measure against people to punish them,
00:40:17.240 to make them feel like they've lost control.
00:40:25.500 So where do we go from here, David? This is one of the things. It's like, you know, I look at,
00:40:30.360 I look at all the Canadian, like, you know, the freedom lovers, which represent, you know, a strong,
00:40:34.800 powerful block. And a lot of them, they, you know, they moved over to the PPC and are with Max Bernier.
00:40:40.720 And, you know, bless those guys, but they just don't have that attention. And, you know, in America,
00:40:45.100 there's only two parties. And as a result of, you know, the Tea Party movement, it like kind of led
00:40:50.560 to the mega movement, which led to the election of Donald Trump. So if you want to actually get a
00:40:54.680 populist in Canada, you know, one thing is, is, you know, if a lot of the PPC energy were to,
00:41:03.860 you know, to get involved within the CPC party, because at the end of the day, it is a party.
00:41:08.160 You know, they can, they can, you know, potentially sway and affect the direction there.
00:41:14.120 You know, and also, you know, challenge some of these, some of this, this, this, this
00:41:20.540 poor politicking that Pierre is doing, you know, and kind of stand up. And also, I would say,
00:41:29.540 you know, it feels like, damn it, we need to have an open, honest, you know, discussion and discourse
00:41:35.640 about, you know, a strong North America going forward, and how we can, you know, keep the flag,
00:41:42.860 because I feel like the flag is really important for Canadian identity. I don't think other than
00:41:46.640 the flag, there's that much that really represents Canadian identity. I don't, I don't think it's
00:41:50.640 the allegiance to the king. I don't think, you know, I bet, you know, 99 and 100 people wouldn't
00:41:56.720 give a shit about allegiance to the king. You know, the monarchy, the Westminster system,
00:42:00.660 government, no, I don't think that's there. I think Canadians will be interested in the
00:42:03.740 constitution. I think Canadians would be interested, you know, in a declaration of independence. But
00:42:08.500 again, they need to be told this. And the sad reality is that much of Canada is under hypnosis
00:42:14.480 as a result of a incredibly heavily subsidized media system. And you just mentioned CBC having
00:42:22.020 its budget potentially doubled. Well, that means double the propaganda. And it also means like,
00:42:27.340 you know, that the people that work there, you know, won't be subject to abject poverty,
00:42:32.060 like the rest of Canadians. You know, so again, it's like, you know, kiss the ring and you'll do
00:42:37.360 okay. Work for the government and you'll be okay. Continue to support, you know, the, this heavily
00:42:44.360 centralized, heavily secretive, corrupt government that will not engage in open, honest debate about
00:42:51.560 things. That's the other, that's the other kind of sad reality is these, um, polarizing, you know,
00:42:58.000 bifurcated worldviews by which many Canadians subscribe. Um, you know, during the Freedom
00:43:05.420 Convoy in Ottawa, there were two alternative worldviews. There was, you know, the Freedom
00:43:11.100 Convoy, you know, participants were coming to express themselves civically and, you know, fight for
00:43:18.780 our charter rights and to, you know, civically protest what were deemed overreaches on many
00:43:26.520 different fronts. And then there was the group that rep that, you know, through media conditioning,
00:43:32.540 uh, you know, and mass formation psychosis, I would also say, believe that the Freedom Convoys were
00:43:39.160 Western, white, racist, bigot, Nazis, um, you know, small fringe minority. And, you know, and that,
00:43:50.960 and that, and unfortunately that continues today. I mean, even my, my daughter has just come from
00:43:54.720 America. Like she had from Canada, she has this, you know, this hate for Trump. No, no reason. Also
00:44:00.300 had a love for Kamala, all just based on general, just, just societal conditioning. Um, you know, and,
00:44:08.100 and, and, and it's, you know, it's much, it's much harder to convince someone they've been fooled
00:44:12.520 than to, than to fool them. So, you know, these are the, some of the challenges that we're, we're
00:44:17.740 going up against and, you know, certainly media press, but also polls are, are, are, are part of
00:44:24.480 the problem as well, David. And, and the fact that the polls are, you know, paid for by corporates who
00:44:31.700 are paid for by, um, yeah. Yeah. As we can see there. Ecos, nanos, like, you know, there's just a,
00:44:44.940 a few groups that, that, you know, that, you know, based on the wording of the questions,
00:44:49.820 based on the ideal kind of outcomes, they, you know, they create this, this narrative and then,
00:44:56.100 you know, and then the polls help determine matrix reality. I'll say it's not actually based on what
00:45:05.940 the people feel or see. It's based on how questions are asked. Corporates pay for those
00:45:11.800 politicians react to them. Um, you know, and, and, and, you know, this is, this is a larger,
00:45:19.260 you know, issue. Well, let's get the fucking fluoride out of the water and hopefully acting
00:45:31.920 a little bit stronger together. And we start opening up our pineal glands and, and critically
00:45:36.600 thinking about the issues that are in front of us, as opposed to just going along with,
00:45:42.080 you know, whatever the television, whatever the tube is telling us to do. So, well, uh, you've
00:45:48.700 been very generous with your times and I'm not going to keep much more of it. Final, final
00:45:53.120 question, uh, Kyle, what do you think Justin Trudeau's legacy will be? I, if I was asked
00:45:59.260 that question, I would say the emergencies act and COVID oppression, what would you say his
00:46:05.260 legacy is going to be? Cause he's about two weeks away from retiring from the prime minister,
00:46:09.480 Joe. Is that when, is that how soon the, uh, they're, they're, they're expecting to anoint
00:46:15.040 or select liberal leader or March, March 9th, March 9th is the magic date. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Um,
00:46:22.360 well, I would say the legacy depends on your worldview. Uh, so which, which camp are you in
00:46:28.920 one side, you know, he's the hero that fought for the health and wellness of, of, of Canadians
00:46:35.500 in the face of the greatest health, um, and, um, you know, right wing uprising ever to come
00:46:46.180 to America. And then on the other side, um, you know, he's kind of represents, you know,
00:46:52.260 the, the leading actor that brought us, uh, great pandemic forced injections, the emergencies
00:46:59.140 act, um, you know, woke policies, uh, incredible inflation, you know, to Canada as a result of
00:47:11.840 the spending. Now, again, I would say like, you know, he was just one of the players that
00:47:16.660 helped facilitate a lot of that wealth transfer from sovereign citizens into, um, you know, into
00:47:22.720 the clubs, into the clubs coffers. Uh, so we shall see, but either way, I hope that, you know, once,
00:47:31.420 once released from that, um, that, you know, he can once again, be a free man and be free of
00:47:39.080 opinion and thought and potentially share light and, and feedback. And I don't know, if he was truly
00:47:46.040 courageous, uh, that was a very, that was a very diplomatic response, Kyle. I appreciate that
00:47:52.320 because you're talking family. And, uh, as much as you may disagree with the man's policies,
00:47:57.300 I understand, you know, how you responded there. Kyle Kemper, it has been a pleasure again,
00:48:03.840 talking to this. I don't know anybody else. Well, a couple of people who I'm on the same page with
00:48:09.180 and just about everything as I am with you. It's always so nice to talk to you and let's not wait
00:48:14.820 so long to have you back because you, you know, you're not just the brother of somebody. You have
00:48:20.420 so many original ideas and we, you need your thoughts right now in Canada, because as you've
00:48:27.080 identified, there is a, we are suffering from a lack of thought in this country at times and people
00:48:35.260 just repeat what they hear on the mainstream media. And sometimes even what they see on YouTube,
00:48:40.640 because there are so many people on YouTube who are very good at nothing except making money on
00:48:46.240 YouTube. They haven't got a single original thought in their heads. And we're going to have
00:48:51.620 the information for your show on X in the description. Watch this man's broadcast. He
00:48:57.420 knows what he's talking about. He's got some great ideas about the economy. And thank you so much,
00:49:02.760 Kyle, for joining me today. We love you here and please come back. Love you too. Okay. Farewell.
00:49:07.880 Bye everybody. Bye for now. That was Kyle Kemper. Thank you for joining me today on Stand
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