Stand on Guard with David Krayden - February 17, 2025


Mark Carney's Sinister Agenda EXPOSED ｜ Stand on Guard


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Former MP Dan McTeague joins me on the show to talk about his time in the House of Commons and his thoughts on the new Bank of Canada Governor Mark Carney. He also talks about some of his favourite Mark Carney clips.

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00:00:00.000 And something that my government is going to do is to use all of the powers of the federal government, including the emergency powers of the federal government, to accelerate the major projects that we need in order to build this economy and take on the Americans.
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00:00:49.640 It's another episode of Stand on Guard.
00:00:51.680 And when we come back, my guest this morning is former Member of Parliament Dan McTeague.
00:00:57.400 We'll explain a little more about his accomplishments since leaving the House of Commons.
00:01:02.880 But it's a pleasure to have him and we'll be right back.
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00:02:00.900 Resolve to resist with Creighton's right.
00:02:04.260 And the show today will largely be about Mark Carney.
00:02:07.700 And I want to bring in my guest at this point.
00:02:10.780 This is Mr. Dan McTeague.
00:02:14.200 Thank you for joining me, Dan.
00:02:15.960 Dave, it's a pleasure being here and on a topic that seems to be gaining a lot of steam.
00:02:20.720 So great to be here to talk about Mr. Carney and other things.
00:02:23.740 But just a note, I tweeted on the weekend something about Mr. Carney doing a photo op.
00:02:28.860 His handlers obviously didn't notice that as he was cheering on the Canadian team in our hockey series against the U.S.
00:02:36.080 He had a Coors glass.
00:02:40.820 Now, some people say we're quick and say, oh, that's not Coors because it's too dark.
00:02:43.760 But they missed the point entirely.
00:02:45.740 And that's what we're looking at.
00:02:47.900 Yeah, they certainly did miss the point because of course, it's the brand on the glass.
00:02:57.220 Before we get into some questions and a couple, I've got some Mark Carney clips that I just want your comment on.
00:03:03.380 I want to explain to people why, you know, you're on the show today because you were a member probably for 18 years for the Toronto area, Scarborough, Pickering.
00:03:12.080 And you're always an MP.
00:03:13.920 And I can attest to this because I worked on the Hill when you were an MP.
00:03:18.500 I worked with you on a lot of issues because you were the kind of MP that stood for principle more than party.
00:03:24.960 And that's my kind of MP.
00:03:26.960 That's my kind of politician because I'm always telling people, never stand with a politician when the politician lets you down and stand with principle.
00:03:35.720 You always did that.
00:03:37.440 You always did that.
00:03:38.400 And unlike a lot of politicians who leave office and they spend the rest of their lives on the boards as a director on various corporate boards, you have done such useful things for Canadians as the gas price wizard, for instance, telling people where they can get the best price for gas.
00:03:55.780 But as the president of Canadians for affordable energy, you really have a bipartisan or I won't say multi-partisan, it's at least bipartisan approach to energy, which I think has just cut beneath a lot of the rhetoric and a lot of the nonsense coming out of politicians.
00:04:15.180 And you're not afraid to criticize the liberal government today, especially under Justin Trudeau.
00:04:22.680 So thank you for the work you've done as the president of Canadians for affordable energy.
00:04:27.240 The information will be in the description about that.
00:04:30.940 But I want to get your feedback today on Mark Carney.
00:04:35.980 We're hearing a lot about Mark Carney, obviously.
00:04:38.580 It looks like he's being anointed as the next liberal leader and the next prime minister.
00:04:43.980 And before I show you the first clip that I want your comment on, you know what bothers me most about Mark Carney?
00:04:51.960 Well, maybe one of the things that bothers me most, not just that he is a globalist and proud of it, but this is a guy who's never been elected to any office in his life.
00:05:03.640 He has spent his life on the globalist gravy train the last couple of years as a UN goodwill ambassador for climate change, governor of the Bank of England.
00:05:12.500 And as you know, I had Liz, former prime minister of Great Britain, Liz Truss recently, and she said Mark Carney was a nightmare as the governor of Bank of England.
00:05:21.920 All he knew how to do is print money and inflationary spending.
00:05:26.360 But your perception, what are your thoughts about Mark Carney as potentially being Canada's next prime minister?
00:05:35.240 Well, there are many things that come into my head over the years of time in which I was a liberal, not just as a member of parliament, but even prior to that.
00:05:42.780 You know, I started in 74, 75, licking envelopes and putting up signs as a kid.
00:05:49.140 Did it on my own, by the way.
00:05:50.480 I didn't have any parents that really wanted to have me in politics.
00:05:53.380 I'm sure they probably thought I'd be better to get a trade or something that might actually have done better for me in the long run.
00:05:58.580 However, in 1978, I worked for a guy named Paul Cosgrove, who later became the housing minister when we had, you know, 21% interest rates.
00:06:06.360 But I also helped a candidate in the Scarborough Centre.
00:06:09.200 Now, I want you to listen to this, Morris Strong.
00:06:12.860 Morris Strong was a world candidate in that writing, and a lot of people know him as the granddaddy of the WEF and the climate goals, et cetera, because we are in this fascination of net zero.
00:06:22.680 And, of course, net zero has been ruinous for Canada, has been ruinous for the world, extraordinarily costly.
00:06:28.080 It's a really dangerous but very, you know, very, you know, cloaked policy that it has as a sinister goal to reduce the human condition
00:06:40.480 and to punish countries that are doing much better than others, while at the same time rewarding nations that really don't care about what they have to say.
00:06:47.540 But that aside, I see that sort of a confluence between Mr. Carney and going back 40 years, 45 years to 47 years, 37 years to guys like Morris Strong.
00:07:02.300 And that is that while they are smart, they're also cunning.
00:07:06.220 And what they have to offer is something that is extraordinarily damaging to the country.
00:07:10.700 And the fact that they make statements that are, you know, analogous to we will impose our authoritarianism,
00:07:17.200 we will invoke emergency measures to get our ways should be a clarion call to Canadians.
00:07:23.840 It certainly is being lost on the older generation, not on the younger generation that can't afford to make ends meet,
00:07:28.400 can't afford a house, much less afford food and groceries and gasoline and diesel.
00:07:33.300 But it does suggest to me that Canadians, just because we got rid of Trudeau, who, by all accounts,
00:07:41.040 wasn't a very enlightened individual for all the reasons, nice hair, nice socks and sobbings and selfies.
00:07:47.920 We now have a person who is far more, you know, far more intelligent, if you can, if you will.
00:07:54.500 And someone who I think is bringing a far more sinister message to Canadians, one of do it my way or else.
00:08:03.160 And he's using, exploiting every avenue that he has while presenting himself as something he clearly is not.
00:08:08.480 He's never been in politics.
00:08:09.440 Doesn't sound like he really cares about democracy.
00:08:11.840 But that aside, all the things I can say about Mr. Carney is simply,
00:08:14.900 I know that his loyalists, his what I call groupies, who were once Trudeau groupies,
00:08:22.200 are defending him, you know, tooth and nail.
00:08:24.820 I think when one puts a clear spotlight on what Mr. Carney has done to damage the Canadian economy
00:08:31.820 with his policies of restricting capital to oil and gas, which is our number one revenue generator in the country,
00:08:38.480 when we consider this as a man who is four square behind carbon taxes and net zero green energy policies,
00:08:45.420 when we consider that this is the man who has been for the past five years economic advisor to Justin Trudeau
00:08:51.260 and the Liberals in the economy has basically cratered, like it or not.
00:08:55.480 I mean, we have some real hard questions asked Mr. Carney.
00:08:58.340 It doesn't just stop there.
00:08:59.900 I want to know more about Brookfield.
00:09:01.180 I want to know why I moved out of Canada the day after he dropped being CEO of the company.
00:09:04.900 I also want to understand how it is possible we block pipelines in Canada,
00:09:08.700 but he invests in his company, invests in Brazil, the United Arab Emirates.
00:09:12.980 There are a number of contradictions here that the media is refusing, I'm not surprised, to delve into,
00:09:18.040 but that's probably because they're waiting for him to actually become the prime minister.
00:09:22.180 There are some financial questions he refuses to answer.
00:09:25.520 And as you said, yes, Brookfield is heavily invested in fossil fuels.
00:09:30.180 Nobody else is allowed to use them, but I'm okay for Mark Carney to make money off of fossil fuels.
00:09:34.900 And I just have a couple of, a few clips here, and I just wanted your comment on them here.
00:09:40.460 The third thing we're going to do is to ensure that there's fair competition for our companies
00:09:46.960 and that we penalize high-polluting foreign imports.
00:09:51.140 So we're going to develop a carbon border adjustment mechanism.
00:09:54.580 What that does is promote jobs here at home.
00:09:57.920 It prevents carbon leakage abroad, and it aligns Canada with our allies who are still engaged in the fight against climate change.
00:10:08.920 Now, I'll return to that graph in a second there, actually there.
00:10:19.600 Yeah, so this is, I just want to make sure everybody had a chance to look at that.
00:10:24.740 This is the notorious carbon tariff that Carney is talking about.
00:10:32.100 He's talked about it on a few occasions.
00:10:33.660 I don't know why I'm not hearing more about this from more people, especially Pierre Paglia.
00:10:40.720 He's not talking about this carbon tariff.
00:10:43.300 This, to me, is not just sinister, but absolutely insane.
00:10:47.560 Does he really think corporations are going to put up with this?
00:10:51.180 Because along with his so-called corporate carbon tax, I can see this pushing business out of Canada at an alarming, catastrophic rate.
00:11:01.780 And for him to say it's going to create jobs in Canada, where is he coming from here?
00:11:06.960 Well, it's deception and it's lunacy.
00:11:09.560 If you think for a minute that by blocking off products from China that, or at least basically forcing a tax on them,
00:11:16.020 that'll drive up the costs of everything at Canadian Tire and at Walmart, Canadians are going to be happy with that, forget it.
00:11:21.780 As far as business are concerned, they will go to those jurisdictions.
00:11:24.280 There are many more.
00:11:25.660 Most nations realize net zero has been a failure.
00:11:27.940 Even in Britain, they know that today.
00:11:29.840 Even in Europe and Germany, they know that.
00:11:31.700 Even in Spain and France, they know that.
00:11:33.740 Now what they're saying is maybe we should hold off on this.
00:11:36.160 Maybe we should push back a little bit.
00:11:37.500 Maybe we should look before we leap.
00:11:40.040 But Canada seems to be going headlong into an affordability crisis, which I mentioned several years ago.
00:11:45.560 We now have one and we want to double down on that.
00:11:47.900 No, I don't think Mr. Carney is in a position to make those kind of decisions.
00:11:51.120 But I think it's important.
00:11:52.600 You mentioned Pierre Polyevne, the Conservatives not saying anything about this.
00:11:55.920 I want to know why the Conservatives are so transfixed with the idea of net zero.
00:12:00.000 Because at the end of the day, it's lunacy.
00:12:02.180 It does not create the kind of environment that I think is conducive to development of technologies, of productivity, of investments.
00:12:13.400 This is all about ensuring the quality of life of very Canadians diminished, as well as those who implement it around the world. 1.00
00:12:19.820 Nowhere were the $2 trillion that's been spent to try to reduce CO2, which is, by the way, not a pollutant.
00:12:27.400 I may not be a scientist, but I can damn well tell you, Mr. Carney isn't either.
00:12:30.980 Call that a pollutant is fundamentally dishonest.
00:12:35.160 And it's the kind of rhetoric that has put the Canadian economy into a snowbank.
00:12:39.020 Yeah, I totally agree.
00:12:42.840 I'm always calling people out for calling carbon pollution.
00:12:46.060 It's absolute nonsense.
00:12:48.060 And you're right about Polyevne, the Conservatives.
00:12:49.580 They don't want to touch net zero.
00:12:50.940 They're afraid to go there.
00:12:52.120 They think this is still a wildly popular concept for Canadians.
00:12:56.220 And they're basically afraid.
00:12:59.380 I wish I had heard more about net zero and the opposition to it at this Canada First rally on Saturday,
00:13:06.080 instead of having a half an hour of Trump busting.
00:13:09.060 And that was, you know, for me, I showed this thing live.
00:13:12.560 And every time he mentioned Donald Trump, the numbers plummeted.
00:13:16.200 And people saying, why doesn't he talk more about the environment?
00:13:18.740 Well, he doesn't really want to.
00:13:21.280 But, you know, that's going to be a problem.
00:13:24.860 Here's another clip from Mark Carney talking about another.
00:13:29.320 Large polluters pay.
00:13:31.060 And so what happens.
00:13:32.400 Does that not ultimately trickle down?
00:13:34.120 No, because what the big companies are producing, by and large, are not products that we are consuming.
00:13:41.700 There's some element of that.
00:13:43.160 But by and large, you know, a steel company, how much steel are you using these days, Todd?
00:13:47.820 I mean, not as much.
00:13:48.960 Not as much.
00:13:49.500 Sorry.
00:13:49.840 So that's that's how much steel are you using these days, Todd.
00:13:54.140 Yeah, this is a recent interview with Atlantic Canada.
00:13:59.460 And he's saying we don't use steel.
00:14:02.340 Now, I know you referred to him as a rather intelligent guy.
00:14:05.700 There are times I wonder really what's going on inside of his brain.
00:14:09.760 Because for him to say we don't use steel anymore, has he used his car lately?
00:14:15.820 Has he taken a bus or a train?
00:14:17.920 Has he looked at a skyscraper?
00:14:19.480 Does he have a refrigerator or a stove in his house?
00:14:22.440 I don't know where this guy can possibly say it's not going to.
00:14:26.800 No, we don't use steel, so it's not going to affect this.
00:14:29.040 And there's not going to be a trickle down that that the corporations are not going to pass on this pollution expense to the consumer. 0.98
00:14:36.960 Is he just lying or is he that ignorant? 0.98
00:14:41.440 Well, maybe he doesn't live in Canada. 0.99
00:14:43.120 I mean, let's be honest.
00:14:44.120 This guy has three passports.
00:14:45.580 I was the guy appointment responsible for Canadians abroad.
00:14:48.180 And by the way, Todd Battis was one of the reasons I got that position, because he was the first one to report work I had done 25 years ago to save the life of a guy named William Sampson.
00:14:56.260 And then it was Todd Battis out of CTV who came down to do the interview with me.
00:15:00.160 However, I mean, what Mark Carney is not telling us is that he that he has a firm understanding of the things because we don't consume things in this country.
00:15:08.580 Somehow we shouldn't worry about them.
00:15:10.360 Well, Mark Carney spent his time trying to block pipelines, trying to choke off investments to our number one sector in this economy, oil and gas, whether you like it or not.
00:15:17.920 And that is one that we export largely to other countries, not just consume here at home.
00:15:23.440 So I think Mr. Carney makes a number of comments that are both alarming, false, and demonstrate a significant shortage of details and information.
00:15:33.360 And these are things that might have worked five, ten years ago when people didn't really care.
00:15:36.880 But now it's costing them, costing far more than they can afford.
00:15:39.960 They can't make ends meet.
00:15:42.380 Net zero, climate, calling CO2 pollution, as he's so wont to doing, doesn't work anymore when affordability is the number one issue in this country.
00:15:51.300 As I predicted it would be several years ago, most people shrugged their shoulders.
00:15:55.540 Mr. Carney is going to have a real hard time under pressure and asking and having people ask him tough questions that he may not have an answer for.
00:16:05.420 And the answers he's giving so far demonstrate a significant weakness in terms of his his understanding of reality.
00:16:11.720 Not much meant not to mention that I think some of these comments are highly questionable, if not unintelligent.
00:16:17.500 Well, it certainly doesn't seem to be thinking through what he's saying.
00:16:22.720 But he's being aided and abetted in a large part by a very friendly, very friendly media.
00:16:29.400 Because when he says, don't worry about steel, I would have said, what planet are you living on, Mr. Carney?
00:16:35.340 Had I been the interviewer, he let that just pass and not even did not even make an attempt to question Carney's response.
00:16:43.920 And the mainstream media is giving this guy a pass.
00:16:46.400 There's no question about it.
00:16:47.600 He is allowed to say things that are almost unintelligible at times.
00:16:51.860 And he's being I actually compared him to Chauncey Gardner from a Peter Sellers film from 1979 called Being There.
00:17:01.740 This is a guy who often says absolutely nothing except what he's heard.
00:17:07.100 And he repeats the talking point endlessly because he saw it on TV or he saw Justin Trudeau do it.
00:17:14.300 And he doesn't care if it makes any sense for the moment.
00:17:16.820 And the journalists are saying, wow, this guy is really profound.
00:17:20.480 You know, he's really got something to say here.
00:17:23.020 And, of course, he's got he's got very little to say that's new.
00:17:26.520 He's he's he's actually talking a bit about pure quality of the times to, I think, lower the threshold of panic in this country.
00:17:35.640 Talking about he wants a middle class tax cut.
00:17:38.140 Yeah, right.
00:17:39.100 He wants to balance the budget.
00:17:40.520 Although yesterday, I think two days ago, he said he's prepared to go into inflationary spending and deficit spending to get the economy back on its feet.
00:17:49.620 So nothing he says is has has legs for more than a day.
00:17:55.180 But I really find the guy to be shallow.
00:17:59.160 He's like to me, he's like Justin Trudeau on Valium because he says the same things, but he says them in such a dispassionate way.
00:18:06.440 Like he he might believe this today, but maybe he won't tomorrow.
00:18:10.500 I'm not quite sure.
00:18:12.060 He's he's he lacks any sort of sort of engagement skills, any any kind of warmth.
00:18:17.340 But yet he's being sold as this savior of Canada.
00:18:20.700 I just I just find it unbelievable.
00:18:22.240 And I really I had no idea there was a connection to Morris Strong, because I know Morris Strong recently passed away peacefully in China, where he, of course, was instrumental in.
00:18:39.540 Redefining the Chinese economy, which is based essentially on gas guzzling cars. 0.98
00:18:45.800 And here's Morris Strong spending the rest of his days as sort of a Chinese hero.
00:18:53.420 And this is the guy, of course, who Pierre Trudeau appointed as the UN ambassador for the environment in the 70s.
00:18:59.620 And this is all regurgitated nonsense that Mark Carney is coming out with.
00:19:04.720 As you said, goes back 50 years when this stuff first became popular.
00:19:10.220 And and Mark Carney hasn't got I don't think he's got a single original idea.
00:19:15.880 And I don't think he's got a a single concept that is relevant for Canadians today and quite the reverse.
00:19:23.840 And he's being he's being marketed as this guy, multifaceted, intelligent, done so many great jobs.
00:19:32.920 And I think there's a reckoning coming from Mark Carney as soon as he's actually challenged by somebody on these things.
00:19:38.760 But well, I've seen these elections before where people come in and they're very strong and they wind up, you know, getting blown out of the water.
00:19:45.840 Not just Kim Campbell, but I think John Turner, of course.
00:19:48.700 But yeah, there's a day of reckoning.
00:19:50.780 It's here now.
00:19:51.860 Canadians are not going to be satisfied with somebody who basically sells them more of what has not worked for the country.
00:19:57.880 This whole policies, various strings and attachments, the head of the hydra, if you will, multi head of the hydra.
00:20:05.540 But that is that zero. I think there is a concern in the country that far beyond the rhetoric needs a new face.
00:20:11.820 I mean, I can get Canadians are relieved. It's no longer Trudeau.
00:20:15.360 But my goodness, talk about hopping in from a fire into the frying pan.
00:20:19.160 That's exactly what many of them are doing.
00:20:21.180 I mentioned at the outset my tweet this weekend, and I couldn't believe intelligent people hopping onto this.
00:20:26.780 And they were more concerned about the color of a beard than they were.
00:20:28.820 In fact, the man said, Canada first, we don't want to have anything American and is leading the charge to getting people not to buy American products on the shelves.
00:20:36.980 That's wonderful. Except you're sitting there with a with a beard that says Coors on it.
00:20:41.200 And then people apologizing it was a Canadian company.
00:20:43.600 I look, this is getting to the point where I saw things in 2015 and 2019.
00:20:47.980 And people jumped on board again with this idea that we can somehow spend our way out of it and have an authoritarian, a totalitarian, an individual doesn't believe in democracy, never ran for public office in the past.
00:20:59.900 As in fact said, it would be a contradiction for himself when I believe it might have been Prime Minister Harper who offered him the finance post after Flaherty had passed away.
00:21:09.760 However, look, we need to look at what this man is proposing.
00:21:13.640 And under closer scrutiny, which, of course, we don't expect him to get.
00:21:17.120 I have a friend of mine who's running, an old friend from many years ago, who's also running for the Liberal leadership.
00:21:21.840 That party is done.
00:21:23.420 And I think people have to recognize the Liberal Party is over, as we understood it.
00:21:27.600 And it has been really much hijacked by an international idea, narrative, which I think has been very punitive to Canada.
00:21:34.440 An ideology, which I think is not just based around incompetent government, but runaway social ideology, which is extraordinarily difficult for a nation as diverse as ours to try to grasp.
00:21:48.360 And we are seeing the effects of what is happening across the country.
00:21:52.400 Disunity and disentanglement.
00:21:53.640 I don't mean by region, but by individuals, between age, between, you know, political ideology, partisan views.
00:22:01.480 I mean, I've never seen the country that's so divided as it is today.
00:22:04.980 And these people are simply exploiting that division.
00:22:08.620 Yes.
00:22:09.660 On day one of his leadership campaign, when he made the official announcement in Edmonton, of course, he tried to present himself as this homegrown boy, born in the Northwest Territory, raised in Edmonton, just a Westerner like you and I, and not really part of that Eastern establishment, not part of that globalist establishment.
00:22:29.380 He's, he's, he's, he's his own man.
00:22:32.000 I found, I found the whole news conference to be absolutely absurd at times.
00:22:36.640 And, but that's what we've come to expect from so many politicians.
00:22:41.420 And it was, it was laughable that he's, he's trying to say, don't look at my record as governor of the Bank of Canada, governor of the Bank of England, UN, a goodwill ambassador.
00:22:52.200 I'm just common folk like you.
00:22:55.740 And I played hockey at university and that somehow is some sort of saving grace, but here he is.
00:23:02.480 And this is why another thing I find incredible about him is that he constantly is putting his foot in his mouth.
00:23:08.460 This is not an adept politician.
00:23:10.280 And I don't know if he's been doing this his entire professional life, but here he is describing himself as a globalist after he says, I'm not really a globalist.
00:23:20.280 That's a horrible smear from peer poly of in those people.
00:23:24.280 Strength is I know how the world works.
00:23:25.820 I know how to get things done.
00:23:27.060 I I'm connected.
00:23:28.400 I, I can deliver for the country.
00:23:30.020 And my weakness is, you know, people will charge me as being elitist or, you know, a globalist to use that term, which is, well, that's exactly.
00:23:40.160 You know, it happens to be exactly what we, what we need.
00:23:43.860 So, so that's exactly what we need is, is globalism.
00:23:48.180 Does, does he, does he seem to understand at all that he is affirming the criticism of his worst critics when he says that?
00:23:56.560 It appears to be that way.
00:23:58.060 And he, day, the day before called upon the country to consider that they were going to need emergency measures.
00:24:04.080 I mean, we have been through this play before, more recently with the COVID lockdowns, but also in 1970.
00:24:10.160 Uh, Canadians, uh, I think are becoming rather aware whether they like it or not.
00:24:16.880 This man is very much, uh, about suppressing, uh, the will of the people.
00:24:21.680 It's why, of course, he'll be prime minister without an election.
00:24:23.940 Can't hold a seat.
00:24:25.060 May hold the government at bay for several months before he calls an election.
00:24:29.240 And of course, uh, that's with help, of course, the, always, uh, to be relied upon, um, you know, deceptive NDP, uh, under Jagmeet Singh.
00:24:38.640 But I think there's something far more serious about Mr. Carney that I think many people are overlooking.
00:24:43.600 And that's the fact that, uh, he doesn't really speak too much to the fact that there's been a crisis, not just in the land because of what John Trump has.
00:24:50.920 We've had a democratic crisis going back to September when the Speaker of the House ruled that, uh, not producing, uh, documents, something I used to do quite often with the previous government.
00:25:00.400 In fact, the whole, uh, G20 back in 2010, uh, I was able to get production of documents to demonstrate the totality of a lot of odd spending that took place, but Parliament has to remain supreme.
00:25:13.780 And for Mr. Carney to believe that Parliament can continue without, uh, without, uh, without it sitting, without him being in it, uh, makes a real mockery of the democracy that this country has come to appreciate.
00:25:26.860 We need an election. I think Canadians universally on all sides of the equation believe that, but I'm now starting to detect that more and more Canadians are just happy without our parliamentary system working, it being dysfunctional, uh, and of course, uh, uh, uh, um, uh, minority government, which may very well exceed any parliamentary tradition of the longest serving governments anywhere in the world.
00:25:47.580 So that is not something I think Canadians, uh, may be appreciating at this point, but it's something that Mr. Carney fully expects to, uh, to exploit.
00:25:56.180 And that exploitation means, uh, uh, uh, less democracy for a long period of time.
00:26:02.300 Yeah, I, I certainly agree with the premise. We need an election. This is a lame duck government.
00:26:09.380 Do you think it's possible? I mean, because the constitution still states that a government can last for five years.
00:26:17.180 There's, there's, there's been legislation saying we need a, a, a four year election mark, but I think the constitution could, would over rule that.
00:26:28.600 Do you think it's, and I'm not one of these people who thinks the liberals are going to hang on until October, 2016.
00:26:35.600 Do you think that's even a remote possibility or you think Carney's going to go for an early election?
00:26:39.800 I think he might be influenced by the fact that Jagmeet Singh at 12% in the polls knows that their goose is cooked.
00:26:47.640 So they're going to hang in a little longer as much as they can, maybe until October rather than having, uh, as he wishes, maybe, or as he suggests or hinted, uh, a March election, regardless of what we think and what they think.
00:26:59.260 It's what the public thinks. And I know that this is a hard thing for Mr. Carney and his gang, by the way, gang led by people like Gerald Butts, um, who I'm not singling out, but, uh, you know, has given Ontario some of the highest hydro rates with the green energy act back in 2009, follow that up with getting, uh, taking over and invading, uh, Ottawa, where energy prices and costs of living went through the roof beginning in 2015, 2016.
00:27:22.800 And now plans to, uh, no one should get a three-peat. You, you, you were a disaster in Ontario. You were, you demolished the, uh, the affordability issue in Canada. Uh, and no matter where you, you spend your time, if we are going to, Canadians believe that they can go over this all over again.
00:27:40.500 And that is 2015, uh, when in fact it's 2025, clinging to power to impose an agenda, which Canadians have not given, uh, you know, authority to, uh, is a very dangerous and very undemocratic way of conducting business.
00:27:55.460 And I think, uh, an unfortunate dimension of what net zero is, which is too bad. If there's no democracy, we really don't care. This is a pernicious international agenda.
00:28:06.600 And I believe that in my heart of hearts, that Mark Carney is a Manchurian candidate for international organizations that do not have Canada's best interests at heart. We need someone to speak for Canada. That's not Mark Carney.
00:28:18.320 Well, the last time you were on my show, you referred to Stephen Gilboa, the environment and climate change minister as a Manchurian candidate. So I think you were dead right about that.
00:28:30.480 And this is a guy whose loyalty is not to Canada, but elsewhere. And I think you, you might be dead on about Mark Carney being another mentoring candidate. And as you said the last time, please, I, you know, understand where that comes from.
00:28:43.040 You know, it's, uh, it, it does, it does mean a very specific thing based on a, on a, on a phrase and a description in a book, in a movie, but here's the last clip.
00:28:53.520 You referred to this incident twice already in, in our conversation. I was very surprised that the day after, not a word, not a peep from the conservative party communications about this.
00:29:08.660 There was hell of a lot said on social media, including on my show, rebel news covered this extensively. A lot of the, the independent media covered it.
00:29:19.040 Not much from the conservative party. I don't know why, but this to me is one of the most damning things just, just in the current, that Mark Carney has said thus far.
00:29:28.320 And something that my government is going to do is to use all of the powers of the federal government, including the emergency powers of the federal government, to accelerate the major projects that we need in order to build this economy and take on the Americans.
00:29:44.900 Now, I'm not even sure how the emergencies act could be used to so-called accelerate these projects, unquote, but I'm sure he'll find a way because, but it, it struck me as ominous that he would tell this, this small crowd in Kelowna, knowing full well, it was being recorded by a local television unit was there,
00:30:13.440 but there's about 50 people out in Kelowna, BC. And Kelowna is a fairly small C conservative and large C conservative town.
00:30:21.100 I know it quite well coming from British Columbia. And so he got, he got 50 people out to hear this.
00:30:27.860 Some of the most frightening remarks he's come out with, because we are still recovering from the emergencies act, the invocation of the emergencies act in three years ago.
00:30:39.220 And Mark Carney talks about this, like it's no big deal. And he's prepared to push this through. Do you think he's an authoritarian?
00:30:48.500 I think his words have pretty much confirmed that. Doesn't have to come from me, it comes from him. I'm just surprised he didn't use the word martial law.
00:30:56.840 What are we really talking about here when he makes those kind of silly remarks that get applause from people in the room who have absolutely no understanding and are completely insensitive to what that really entails?
00:31:08.040 You know, I don't think of many Canadians as being anti-democratic or allowing these kind of things to happen.
00:31:14.160 And what is he talking about? Is he talking about, you know, using that to block certain pipelines, telling the American investors to get lost?
00:31:21.020 Because we don't have a strong position to be able to say to people, hey, whether you're American or European or whether you happen to be Asian investors, we don't want your money because we think that making, I don't know, hydrogen and, you know, buy more solar panels from China and using bird choppers to get our energy, which will, on a day like today, freezing across much of this country, are absolutely useless.
00:31:43.860 And they will shortchange and they will shorten the lives of Canadians. 0.99
00:31:47.100 So I'm not sure what that takes, what that means.
00:31:51.100 I saw it as very frightening and very ominous.
00:31:53.440 I do say this, though, and I know in my years that I'm going to put my political cap back on because I did spend a lot of time there and make no mistake, it goes back a lot longer than most appreciate.
00:32:03.000 You know, I think for the Conservatives, if they're going to have to reconcile, Mark Carney, they're going to have to reconcile net zero.
00:32:11.100 And to do that, they may want to hold off, you know, keep their powder dry until there's an election.
00:32:15.940 There's no point coming out and shooting down Mr. Carney at this point.
00:32:20.220 Guys like me who aren't invested, I'm not a member of the Conservative Party.
00:32:24.160 I've only been a member of one party, that is the Liberal Party of Canada, when it was the Liberal Party of the Centre.
00:32:30.700 But to respond very quickly may not be, in my opinion, and I think my advice would be hold off.
00:32:39.420 Let other people make those remarks and then come to that conclusion and then ding Canadians when they're actually paying attention and say,
00:32:44.780 do you really want an authoritarian figure invoking these measures, which we have rarely used, for which the first person to use these back in the 1970s apologized for it.
00:32:57.760 We created a constitution to protect people's rights so that couldn't happen again.
00:33:01.040 Do you really want that going on, especially in light of what happened in COVID?
00:33:04.040 I think most people may be of two opinions on that, but the reality now is very much swung in favour of those who believe that those kind of comments really bring us back to a time,
00:33:14.680 not just of division in the country, but of a shameful period of time when the federal government uses powers against people who are peacefully demonstrating.
00:33:24.240 I think you're quite correct in saying, give Mark Carney enough rope, he will hang himself.
00:33:29.400 Oh, you didn't really, you didn't put it that way, but I think that's, that's what he, that's what he tends to do.
00:33:35.960 This is a man who really puts his foot in his mouth constantly.
00:33:40.000 I don't think he's a very good politician in terms of thinking about what he says before he says it and realizing that this is all on, on, on tape.
00:33:50.380 It's all recorded today.
00:33:51.500 It's all out there immediately on social media.
00:33:53.880 And anything he says is going to be reported and recorded and ad nauseum, people are going to hear it over and over again.
00:34:02.620 But I was thinking the other day, and I wanted your, your thoughts on this because I'm still not convinced Justin Trudeau is leaving because the potential for a snap election, it still exists.
00:34:15.300 If the federal court orders the prorogation to, to stop and the house to resume, I think we could have an early election.
00:34:23.760 Uh, I, and I, I raised this and you would remember this Dan, but, and so many people have forgotten that Pierre Trudeau resigned twice.
00:34:31.300 I know people forget he resigned in 1979 when he was the opposition leader and Joe Clark was prime ministry.
00:34:38.320 Pierre Trudeau hated, and I know you knew Pierre Trudeau, he hated being opposition leader.
00:34:43.580 He didn't know what the hell to do in that job.
00:34:45.440 He was used to being prime minister.
00:34:47.160 And after 11 years of governing, he said, I'm leaving.
00:34:51.880 And I, I, you know, I, it's time to, it's time to, to do something else.
00:34:57.220 And I remember, I remember that announcement very well.
00:34:59.660 It was just a, just a kid, but I was very young age.
00:35:02.720 I was interested in politics.
00:35:03.840 And I remember Pierre Trudeau saying he was resigning and lo and behold, conservative government fell in December because of a gas tax.
00:35:12.500 I know.
00:35:13.440 It's fascinating.
00:35:15.220 You know, John, John Crosby's gas tax, which I think was 16 cents a gallon or something.
00:35:22.060 And they, they neglected to talk to those credit, credit East members, those six members from Quebec who were propping up the conservative minority government. 0.98
00:35:31.700 So it was a logistical stupidity. 0.99
00:35:35.180 They didn't get their support. 1.00
00:35:36.500 The government fell.
00:35:37.420 Nobody expected it to fall.
00:35:39.060 And just before Christmas.
00:35:41.060 So, so we were hurled into a February 28th election.
00:35:45.340 The liberals hadn't even thought about who was going to replace just Pierre Trudeau.
00:35:50.880 So they say, can you come back and lead us?
00:35:53.660 And there was a draft Trudeau movement on and, and Pierre Trudeau came back to lead the party to a huge majority in 1980.
00:36:02.680 And that his last four years for perhaps his most consequential, he repatriated the constitution.
00:36:08.580 He, he, he probably would have been remembered for one thing alone, had it not been for that last four years.
00:36:14.300 And that would have been the invocation of the War Measures Act.
00:36:17.080 And I think that's probably how people would have remembered Pierre Trudeau.
00:36:20.320 Now, of course, he's remembered for the Charter of Rights and the Constitution being repatriated.
00:36:24.860 But I'm, it, it occurred to me, could that happen to Justin Trudeau?
00:36:28.920 Could, if there's a snap election, could the party say, look, we, we haven't got time now to go through formal leadership.
00:36:39.060 Can you come back and lead us?
00:36:40.680 Now, I don't know if that's, if that's possible.
00:36:42.980 And it, it's all, I never say it's over with Justin Trudeau.
00:36:49.260 But if we agree, if we agree that, yes, he is going to resign and that it looks like Mark Kearney is going to be the next leader at Liverpool.
00:36:56.700 What do you, what do you think the legacy of Justin Trudeau is going to be as, in history?
00:37:03.500 Well, it won't be very kind to Justin Trudeau.
00:37:05.720 When your own caucus dumps you, it says a lot about the fact that you're not well-liked.
00:37:09.620 Unlike Pierre Elliott Trudeau, and, you know, I take this rather from an interesting historical perspective.
00:37:17.300 In 1987, I was campaign manager for a provincial housing manager named Alvin Curling.
00:37:21.800 My chairman of my campaign was the, it was Keith Davey, the rainmaker, who at the time was very instrumental in getting Trudeau Sr. to come back.
00:37:30.200 But very much loved by his caucus.
00:37:32.320 And at the time, of course, we had, you know, a government which was fumbling, a new government that had just come in, you know, call it basically an interlude.
00:37:41.580 And, you know, clearly couldn't count and unpopular as it was in 1979, still unpopular today.
00:37:48.880 When you impose taxes on gasoline, not a bright thing to do, which is what I've been warning since 2015, 2014.
00:37:56.860 Don't want to listen to me, but they are now because gasoline prices do, in fact, matter, especially as they cascade into the cost of everything else.
00:38:04.140 But in terms of Justin Trudeau's legacy, foregone conclusion, he should have left a year and a half, two years ago.
00:38:09.440 His handlers didn't want it because they thought, well, we're going to have to slow down the money printing machine and the grift will have to stop.
00:38:16.700 And all these people with interests in mooching from the government will suddenly find themselves without money.
00:38:21.380 And, of course, there was no concern or consideration to not just this generation, not the next generation, but the generation after.
00:38:28.240 When you incur such massive amounts of debt while decreasing productivity per GDP per person in this country, while you have a nation which seems to have had a migration crisis,
00:38:40.480 which you've insulted those who've taken the time to go through the process to be brought into this country suddenly inundated with people who basically should not be here, cannot be here,
00:38:49.920 and once they're here, cannot afford to stay here, you have a real problem on your hands.
00:38:53.880 And I think for most of the nation, it's not East versus West, French versus English, Protestant versus Catholic, whatever you want to call it.
00:39:00.520 It is now very much a sense in our own selves, not just this generation, but generations to come, that Canada has a very long road in which to recover.
00:39:10.000 And I think, you know, we've seen more setbacks that I think can now be accurately called a national crisis.
00:39:17.440 And it was self-made. It was imposed by a dilettante who should never have been prime minister.
00:39:23.680 But, of course, he had the socks, the sobbing, the selfies, and the nice hair.
00:39:26.960 And, unfortunately, there's a significant constituency in this country, I don't want to say who they are, who thought this is great, this is wonderful, this is how you lead a country.
00:39:35.480 This is not how you lead a country.
00:39:36.760 And those of us who have experienced know exactly how this recipe was going to turn out to be a fundamental disaster, which it is today for Canadians.
00:39:43.340 That is the Trudeau legacy.
00:39:44.380 Very, very well stated, Dan.
00:39:48.820 Well, thank you so much for joining me today.
00:39:50.860 And I want to say, again, your information is in the description.
00:39:54.600 It's Canadians for Affordable Energy.
00:39:56.600 Thank you for doing a job, the job that you do on behalf of Common Sense Canadians.
00:40:02.020 I'm not going to call it either political party, but for those Common Sense Canadians, no matter how they vote, but who vote for Common Sense policies, you are addressing those Canadians with the work you're doing.
00:40:13.560 And I'll say it again, I've never met a more principled politician than you.
00:40:19.280 And I remember the work you did.
00:40:21.360 It was always principle first. 0.60
00:40:23.400 And that's something I think is a lesson that every politician should learn.
00:40:27.640 Put principle first.
00:40:29.480 And don't put party first.
00:40:31.660 You always did that.
00:40:32.620 And I always respected you.
00:40:34.300 And I respect your opinion on just about all of these things.
00:40:37.680 I think you've got so much to say as somebody who has served the country as a member of Parliament, but continues to serve this country with the information that you're gathering and disseminating.
00:40:48.980 And we all appreciate it.
00:40:50.560 So, once again, thank you for your work as a member.
00:40:53.940 Thank you for the work you're doing today.
00:40:55.920 And I appreciate you being on the show with me today because what you're saying is just so incredibly relevant.
00:41:02.980 And thank you for what you revealed today about Mark Carney and about Justin Trudeau and about where this country is.
00:41:11.320 I think we can do a lot better, and I think we will do a lot better.
00:41:14.160 But it's been a pleasure talking again, Dan, and a man I call a friend.
00:41:20.620 Yeah, thank you, David.
00:41:21.440 We appreciate that.
00:41:22.240 I'm very, very humbled.
00:41:24.940 Thank you so much for joining me today on Stand on Guard.
00:41:28.080 My guest has been Dan McTeague, former member of Parliament and president of Canadians for Affordable Energy.
00:41:34.520 He's also the gas wizard guy on X.
00:41:37.440 He can tell you where the cheapest gas is and when it's going up.
00:41:40.860 For Stand on Guard, thank you very much.
00:41:44.300 We will be back again tomorrow at 10.
00:41:46.180 Remember to resolve, to resist, and I'll give you all the news you need to know.
00:41:52.260 Bye for now.
00:41:53.040 Bye.