Stand on Guard with David Krayden - July 06, 2023


SOG14： Bill C-18 Backfire, HUGE Liberal blunder or something else？ ｜ Stand on Guard Ep 14

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Justin Trudeau Michael Geist Pamela Wallen Bill C-63 David Creighton Andrew Coyne Chrystia Freeland Pablo Rodriguez Rolo Tomasi Alphabet Ripley Paul
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Trudeau's Internet Extortion Bill is backfiring, and it's time to stand up to the Liberal government and demand that it be revoked before it destroys our freedom of speech and internet access in Canada. Today's episode is all about Bill C-18, and why it needs to be revoked.

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00:00:00.280 Hi, welcome back to another episode of Stand on Guard with David Creighton.
00:00:04.660 I'm your host, David Creighton, and we've got a lot of stuff to go through today.
00:00:09.440 We're going to be talking about Trudeau's internet censorship legislation and his most
00:00:14.600 recent bill that just passed, and it's the internet extortion bill.
00:00:19.900 We're going to be back with all kinds of information on what's happening with that.
00:00:23.960 Just stand by.
00:00:26.320 So we are in a very precarious position in this country.
00:00:30.520 We need political change, but we also need to resolve to resist.
00:00:43.600 You know, we are covering this story throughout the summer because I can tell you it is going
00:00:51.600 to be devastating and catastrophic for free speech in this country.
00:00:55.820 We said that when this bill was introduced.
00:00:58.180 We're saying it now.
00:00:59.240 We're going to be saying it when Parliament comes back in the fall.
00:01:01.760 This bill needs to be revoked, and the whole censorship legislation needs to be stopped
00:01:08.360 before it's too late.
00:01:11.440 And this is why I'm asking you to support independent journalism.
00:01:14.760 Please subscribe, ring the bell.
00:01:17.540 I hate to ask, but it really does help a small outlet like this.
00:01:22.640 It really does.
00:01:23.720 So please make that effort to do that.
00:01:26.780 Support this station.
00:01:28.040 Because I want to keep bringing you the news, and I want to keep going after the liberal censorship
00:01:34.200 in this country.
00:01:35.200 Because if we lose our freedom of speech, if we lose free and independent media, because
00:01:40.720 it's completely bought off by the liberal government.
00:01:44.320 If they destroy the media's ability to get their stories on social media so they can get higher
00:01:54.640 circulation, higher readership, higher volume, better ad revenue, we are destroying the media.
00:02:00.880 And so we're going to have nothing left but a government-controlled media.
00:02:05.780 So we are facing unprecedented attacks on freedom of speech and freedom of the press slash media,
00:02:15.040 what the press means today.
00:02:16.720 And believe me, the liberal government would like you just to ignore this throughout the summer.
00:02:23.560 They want this legislation to pass, but they had no idea it was going to backfire.
00:02:28.660 And Bill C-18 is backfiring.
00:02:31.260 Why is it backfiring?
00:02:33.020 Because a lot of the liberals' allies in the mainstream media are turning against them.
00:02:39.220 And they're getting criticism from some very credible sources.
00:02:43.020 You know, and I include Michael Geist, Professor Michael Geist of the University of Ottawa.
00:02:48.580 He has been an outspoken critic of all of Trudeau's censorship bills.
00:02:56.320 And there's one more coming.
00:02:57.840 I'm not going to talk much about that today because we've got so much to deal with at C-18
00:03:01.700 and how it's unraveling.
00:03:04.140 But Michael Geist has said this is creating chaos.
00:03:06.840 Because Michael Geist seems to understand how media works today.
00:03:10.180 Unlike the heritage minister, Pablo Rodriguez, whom we'll hear from in a few minutes.
00:03:16.980 But he clearly is out of his depth, is sinking fast on this issue,
00:03:21.820 and doesn't understand how media works.
00:03:24.980 How does media work today?
00:03:26.320 Is that you want to get your stories on social media.
00:03:30.100 Because that means your audience expands sometimes into the millions.
00:03:37.040 And the more people who read your story, the more people go back to your media outlet.
00:03:41.100 More people subscribe to your media outlet.
00:03:44.240 You can sell more advertising and increase the price of your advertising if you're getting millions of viewers watching your news.
00:03:51.340 That's how media works today.
00:03:53.760 Pablo Rodriguez doesn't understand that clearly.
00:03:56.200 So Michael Geist has been very outspoken on this.
00:04:01.280 As of all people, Andrew Coyne, distinguished colonist, who's sometimes a friend of Trudeau, sometimes not.
00:04:09.720 But he's clearly seen the light on this issue.
00:04:13.220 At C-18, it's got nothing to do with saving Canadian media.
00:04:18.420 It's got everything to do with censoring the internet.
00:04:21.160 And nobody's going to win from this.
00:04:24.640 And he understands this, I think, as well as anybody now.
00:04:29.340 Because a lot of the legacy media supported this legislation and were silent.
00:04:34.560 Did not criticize it.
00:04:37.200 You know, thought it was going to be a safe bet.
00:04:42.300 Thought it was going to be something that they could live with.
00:04:44.900 And clearly, they can't.
00:04:46.440 But let's listen to Pablo Rodriguez talk about this legislation.
00:04:51.680 And you can see with your own eyes how out of depth he is on this.
00:04:58.720 Well, it's their decision to make that.
00:05:02.160 I'm not going to commit on hypothesis and then start to speculate.
00:05:05.380 And then, because you know what?
00:05:06.500 I'm never going to make any decision on threats.
00:05:08.940 Never.
00:05:09.420 I never did.
00:05:09.960 I never will.
00:05:11.240 Never.
00:05:11.560 It's not really what I'm asking.
00:05:13.880 Perhaps Mr. Ripley can answer the question.
00:05:16.380 The bill is silent.
00:05:17.920 It does not name platforms.
00:05:19.800 It doesn't have the words Alphabet or Meta, Google, Instagram are not in the bill.
00:05:25.880 The bill refers to online intermediaries.
00:05:28.360 So, in the event that Facebook and Google cease to be meaningful online intermediaries
00:05:37.020 in the Canadian space, would the bill then contemplate looking at Bing, TikTok, Amazon,
00:05:46.520 I mean, whoever are the next major players in terms of Canadian advertising and news links?
00:05:51.120 I'll pass it to all and after, but we said it clearly in the bill that they have to mean
00:05:56.400 a dominant situation, dominant.
00:05:58.380 So, we were just supposed to know somehow that the Liberals were targeting Meta and Google.
00:06:05.660 That even though it's not spelled out in the bill, we're just supposed to understand that.
00:06:08.700 And since it's not spelled out in the bill, it can mean anybody. 0.99
00:06:12.840 And this idiot doesn't seem to recognize that. 0.99
00:06:16.580 Nothing has been spelled out in this bill, except it's a war on all social media. 1.00
00:06:23.000 Now, right now, he wants to target Meta, Facebook, Google.
00:06:27.320 But what happens when they're not compliant?
00:06:29.580 And they're not going to be compliant.
00:06:32.180 This is not worth it for them.
00:06:34.700 They have this money extorted for the privilege of running Canadian news.
00:06:38.100 So, then they'll go after other social media because the bill doesn't spell anybody of it.
00:06:42.580 Let's listen to Rodriguez some more.
00:06:44.940 Right?
00:06:45.300 And there will be thresholds.
00:06:46.640 There will be regulations.
00:06:47.840 And in the regulations, actually, in the thresholds we're looking at, there's only two.
00:06:52.740 And that's Facebook.
00:06:54.040 That's Facebook and Google.
00:06:55.220 And the rest are way, way far away, right?
00:06:57.740 Very, very, very far away.
00:06:59.480 But I don't know.
00:07:00.280 What does way, way far away mean?
00:07:03.160 I don't know if this man has a competence, a general competence in the English language.
00:07:07.020 He might speak French or Spanish very well, but he's not speaking English very well.
00:07:11.300 He is not making any sense.
00:07:13.780 And that's clearly by design because they don't know what they're doing.
00:07:20.380 They're just hoping this is going to work out for their benefit.
00:07:23.000 Before we're discussing about the threats and trying to be scared about, you know, about the threats.
00:07:29.500 And also, the government has options, Senator.
00:07:32.940 There's other things we can do.
00:07:35.100 And all options are on the table.
00:07:36.500 What would they be?
00:07:38.080 The options, all of the options in terms of advertising, there's different programs.
00:07:48.740 There's all kinds of stuff that we do.
00:07:51.660 We decide not to do anymore.
00:07:53.360 Maybe we decide to increase.
00:07:54.900 But those options will be explained if we get there.
00:07:57.840 But we're not there.
00:07:59.240 So options would be things like putting government advertising back in local newspapers.
00:08:03.580 But we're playing Facebook's game at this moment.
00:08:12.140 But it's up to them.
00:08:13.360 It's up to me to explain what...
00:08:15.380 It's their decision to make that.
00:08:17.640 I'm not going to...
00:08:18.880 And clearly, Rodriguez is out of his element.
00:08:22.660 He really doesn't know what he's talking about here.
00:08:24.640 And so I think it's also important that we listen to what is actually happening real time right now.
00:08:34.860 And I want you to watch this clip because it's extremely interesting.
00:08:40.880 So this morning, we'll be talking to them.
00:08:43.160 But am I to infer from those discussions that they're going very poorly, given what Google announced?
00:08:47.260 You said you met with them this morning and what hours later they came out and said we're blocking all Canadian news as soon as this comes into effect.
00:08:54.300 Well, my team met with...
00:08:55.340 Discussed with them this morning.
00:08:56.400 Not me.
00:08:56.960 It was last week.
00:08:58.500 Yeah, that's why I said I don't understand exactly why they put that press release.
00:09:02.040 It doesn't come into effect now.
00:09:03.280 It comes to effect in six months.
00:09:04.960 Is this a strategy to negotiate?
00:09:06.880 I don't know.
00:09:07.500 You should ask them.
00:09:09.160 Is this about optics for your government at all?
00:09:11.560 Is this about the optics of wanting to take on these big tech companies so it positions your government in a certain way, in a certain favorable light, at the expense of good policy?
00:09:24.160 No, no.
00:09:26.020 What I want...
00:09:26.680 No, no.
00:09:29.240 That means translation?
00:09:31.300 Yes.
00:09:31.820 Yes.
00:09:32.360 We, we.
00:09:33.560 And that is exactly...
00:09:35.140 If you look at this journalist's face, she's not convinced at all.
00:09:38.100 It's good deals for our news companies, for our free, independent, non-partisan press in Canada.
00:09:48.580 Why?
00:09:48.880 Because it's part of a democracy.
00:09:50.160 You guys are a pillar of a democracy.
00:09:52.720 The role that you play is fundamental.
00:09:54.240 The tough questions that you ask are absolutely fundamental.
00:09:58.840 He knows damn well that Justin Trudeau isn't getting any tough questions.
00:10:04.220 He hasn't been getting a lot of tough questions from the legacy media.
00:10:06.960 But he's getting them now.
00:10:08.720 But you guys are disappearing slowly.
00:10:11.460 Money going through the tech giants.
00:10:12.780 And they have to be able to share that.
00:10:15.720 They have to be able to compensate fairly.
00:10:17.600 Not more, not less.
00:10:18.960 But fairly newsroom that produce content that has, that has value.
00:10:23.300 If so, if so, and you make a good point, you know, I'm not, I'm not free of investors or in any of this.
00:10:29.320 But if, in fact, the model, the model upon which I do the work I'm doing is broken, and it is not, and these companies are not able to make money doing it, why is it the government's role to fix that?
00:10:41.600 Isn't it the company's responsibility to do so?
00:10:43.800 Well, and they're doing that, too.
00:10:46.500 They're looking for new models.
00:10:47.760 They're looking for new ways to move forward.
00:10:49.760 And some, along the way, have to close their doors.
00:10:52.780 Others are surviving well.
00:10:55.180 And others may close their doors sooner than later, which is a problem.
00:10:59.320 Because those companies are disappearing.
00:11:02.440 And it's, so is that good for democracy?
00:11:04.440 No, it's bad for democracy.
00:11:06.640 Do you get the sense that C-18 is destroying the news industry instead of helping protect it?
00:11:18.920 And here's the Deputy Prime Minister, Christy Freeland, looking as annoyed as ever that somebody would have the temerity, the gall to ask her a tough question.
00:11:27.860 Destroying the Canadian media?
00:11:29.240 Well, of course not.
00:11:30.260 We're, we're, we're, we're.
00:11:31.800 Listen to this answer. 0.99
00:11:33.040 It's really quite pathetic. 0.98
00:11:33.920 Um, so sure. 0.96
00:11:38.020 Happy to answer question in English.
00:11:39.720 Um, uh, look, um, I worked for many years as a journalist.
00:11:46.800 And I saw, uh, the real erosion of newsrooms, um, created by the loss of revenue.
00:11:59.220 Mm-hmm.
00:12:00.100 How does joining that broader fight against companies like Google and Meta, including today's announcement on ending advertisement on Facebook and Instagram, benefit Canadians?
00:12:10.820 Well, so here's Trudeau is going to explain that the government of Canada will no longer advertise on Meta and Google.
00:12:19.980 Big deal.
00:12:21.720 All right.
00:12:22.000 He really thinks the government advertising is going to sustain these, these companies.
00:12:26.460 But, you know, he, Trudeau referred to this, the reaction, the noncompliance from Facebook and Google as being bullying.
00:12:36.380 Who's the bully?
00:12:38.040 The government.
00:12:38.920 The state is the bully here.
00:12:40.300 And Trudeau clearly doesn't get it.
00:12:42.520 We know, uh, that the global tech giants have completely disrupted so much of what we're doing.
00:12:49.240 They've created, uh, tremendous positive goods, uh, in the world.
00:12:52.520 But one of the ways that they have caused real challenges is, uh, on media and journalism.
00:12:58.020 And people's access, uh, to local news needs to continue, particularly in a time where democracy is so challenged around the world.
00:13:06.660 Unfortunately, uh, tech giants like Meta, even as they're making record profits, billions upon billions of dollars of profits,
00:13:15.600 are refusing, uh, to make sure that, uh, media and local news get properly paid.
00:13:22.720 And they're so insistent that they don't want to pay their fair share that they've decided to stop.
00:13:29.240 Uh, they've decided to block access to media and journalism.
00:13:33.160 There's that phrase fair share.
00:13:35.100 What does that mean?
00:13:36.100 What is a, what, why, what is their fair share?
00:13:39.120 That's a, that's a concept rooted in socialism, actually Marxism.
00:13:42.720 To say they, they have to pay their fair share.
00:13:46.360 He doesn't even know what that fair share is.
00:13:49.120 He has no idea.
00:13:50.120 He won't put a dollar figure on it.
00:13:51.700 It's unlimited.
00:13:52.880 It's unlimited compensation.
00:13:55.340 And this is absolute insanity.
00:13:58.380 Local news, uh, for people across this country.
00:14:01.240 That's just bullying.
00:14:02.800 And it's undermining our democracy at a time where, uh, we need to stand up for democracy.
00:14:08.080 We need to stand up for people's rights and abilities to access news.
00:14:12.720 So when's the last time Justin Trudeau stood up for anyone, anyone's democratic freedom
00:14:18.440 in this country?
00:14:19.600 And I tell you, I can't think of it.
00:14:23.460 So was this designed to fail or was this somehow just a catastrophic government blunder, just
00:14:32.480 government incompetence as per normal?
00:14:37.000 This is the question we really, really have to answer.
00:14:41.280 And I think it's, it's, it's fascinating that just as Trudeau announced this, and just as
00:14:48.540 this, this government decided to release this, we've got massive layoffs going on in Canadian
00:14:59.540 media.
00:14:59.940 I mean, there's been a lot of prominent journalists that just recently lost their jobs because new
00:15:06.340 legacy media has been unable to operate successfully in the new media world.
00:15:13.160 And they're going to be less able to compete in the new media world with Bill C-18 being enforced.
00:15:20.980 The money is going to dry up.
00:15:24.140 And this is why they are laying people off.
00:15:28.340 And it's, you know, and, and clearly, clearly then the old media is beginning to understand
00:15:39.920 this, that, that this is, you know, as Andrew Coyne has, has said, he, he recognizes the media is losing
00:15:49.740 its independence because not only is the old media subsidized right now by the Trudeau government,
00:15:57.780 and I'm, and we're not talking about the 1.4 billion the government spends on the state broadcaster,
00:16:04.000 CBC, we're talking about the subsidies, tens of millions of dollars that have gone to legacy media
00:16:08.900 in subsidies.
00:16:09.920 So now they're talking about more subsidies.
00:16:12.080 So that means more strings.
00:16:14.080 That means the, the media will be less inclined to criticize the government or the hand that
00:16:19.880 feeds them as Senator Pamela Wallen has, has pointed out quite brilliantly that their course,
00:16:26.000 they're going to be less inclined to criticize.
00:16:29.520 And so this is, this is why, is it, so is it incompetence or is it, is it something else?
00:16:37.140 And I think that's, that's the question, that's the question we have to, we have to ask ourselves
00:16:45.880 right now, because it might well be something else, something quite terrifying, which is the
00:16:55.060 collapse, the collapse of what we used to understand as press freedom.
00:17:02.360 Because clearly Trudeau is going after something here.
00:17:07.880 You remember that there was a policy resolution, and it's quite fascinating.
00:17:12.280 It was a policy resolution at the last liberal convention this year.
00:17:15.660 I want to, want to bring that up for you here.
00:17:18.220 In fact, we'll even give you a clearer view of it.
00:17:24.320 There was a policy resolution brought up this year.
00:17:26.840 And it's, it is quite fascinating, because it demanded that media, internet media outlets
00:17:35.680 reveal their sources.
00:17:38.260 They have to prove their story.
00:17:40.880 Now, some people said, well, that's just too draconian to have in a free and democratic society.
00:17:48.180 The liberals can't really be serious about that.
00:17:50.820 They don't really want to get into the newsroom.
00:17:53.040 But they do.
00:17:54.240 You see, these, these are the poison pills that were inserted into this C-18 legislation.
00:18:01.200 The government is giving itself the right to insert itself into the newsroom and to discover
00:18:09.840 who the sources were, what they're saying, because they want to know.
00:18:15.720 And here's, here is a fascinating inner testimony from the global media.
00:18:23.560 Confidential information from news organizations, particularly information related to editorial
00:18:29.880 departments would be an overreach that's best avoided.
00:18:34.340 But the threat to the independence of media, rather than the loss of a few million dollars,
00:18:40.980 I think that's a much more long-term threat to our industry, if we don't get the language
00:18:47.940 of this bill right.
00:18:48.940 Is it worth the risk?
00:18:50.080 Now, before we move on to Senator Pamela Wallen coming on next, but there's the publisher 1.00
00:18:55.260 of the Globe and Mail, which is initially well behind this.
00:18:58.580 They wanted an amendment so the government could not insert itself into the newsroom
00:19:03.780 and have sources named, just like this liberal policy resolution demanded.
00:19:09.580 I had confirmation this morning from Michael Geist, who's been following this bill very carefully.
00:19:13.660 That request was made, the government denied it.
00:19:18.160 So the newsrooms are open to the federal government's monitoring.
00:19:23.880 So let's hear what Senator Pamela Wallen has to say about this.
00:19:26.640 The risk of having the government now interfere or snoop in your newsrooms in order for the
00:19:34.260 exchange of cash, which you're already getting through the deals you've signed.
00:19:38.000 I think at a time when there is questions of trust in media, we want to make sure that
00:19:47.440 trust in media is something that people believe in.
00:19:51.780 And I don't think that's helped, if you allow, to Paul's words, the CRTC to snoop into what's
00:19:59.180 going on in the newsrooms and have some say in what would otherwise be a commercial agreement
00:20:05.180 that is struck between the parties, and value will be found in those agreements.
00:20:11.740 We've already had suggestions from ministers that they do actually consider that one of
00:20:17.780 their rights, that they would make judgments about content.
00:20:23.340 25 seconds.
00:20:26.000 I'm assuming that concerns you.
00:20:28.300 It does.
00:20:29.500 Thank you.
00:20:30.220 So it does concern the Globe and Mail.
00:20:35.680 I'll tell you why.
00:20:37.360 The Globe and Mail broke the story about Chinese election interference and how they were buying
00:20:42.720 liberal seats.
00:20:45.480 How the Chinese communist government was buying seats for the liberals and intimidating some
00:20:52.400 candidates, helping other candidates, interfering in the Canadian election.
00:20:56.840 Now, the Globe and Mail received that information from a whistleblower within the Canadian Security
00:21:01.960 Intelligence Service.
00:21:04.360 Trudeau said he wanted that guy, or that man, or that woman.
00:21:08.600 I don't know who it is.
00:21:10.140 And I don't know the gender or the sex of the individual.
00:21:14.040 I have no idea.
00:21:14.720 But Trudeau wants that person to be drawn and quartered, hauled up on the carpet, and disciplined
00:21:22.280 in some way, probably fired, because he doesn't think there should be such a thing as a whistleblower.
00:21:28.780 And he wants the Globe and Mail to be forced to reveal that source.
00:21:33.200 You know, and that's what this is all about.
00:21:38.000 It's about going after the whistleblower.
00:21:40.500 And this is the nefarious and the insidious design of Bill C-18.
00:21:47.560 It is going to take that kind of freedom away.
00:21:50.900 And this, if you want to see a chilling clip.
00:21:54.200 Mr. Trudeau, you're very reassuring on the results of elections, Mr. Trudeau.
00:22:02.640 But what are you saying?
00:22:05.500 Now, of course, this is Trudeau initially saying he's going to find out who that whistleblower
00:22:09.700 is who told the Globe and Mail about Chinese election interference.
00:22:13.320 You have to say about the fact that people at CSIS are leaking secret documents.
00:22:17.760 Isn't there some discomfort within those agencies regarding China?
00:22:22.100 It's certainly a sign that security within CSIS needs to be reviewed.
00:22:28.400 And I am expecting CSIS to take the issue very seriously.
00:22:40.900 Do you believe that the whistleblower should be found and prosecuted?
00:22:46.480 I do.
00:22:47.280 Absolutely, I do.
00:22:48.300 The law has been broken.
00:22:49.500 Sources, techniques have been put at risk.
00:22:53.800 Our credibility with Five Eyes Allies has been put at risk.
00:22:57.200 There are better ways of doing this.
00:23:00.340 There are better ways of raising your concerns within a national security agency.
00:23:05.920 There are better ways of trying to bring some light to this topic
00:23:11.380 than risking Canada's national security.
00:23:15.160 You believe it should happen?
00:23:16.240 Do you believe it will happen?
00:23:17.120 That the person will be found?
00:23:20.080 I do.
00:23:23.920 Absolutely chilling.
00:23:25.040 Do you believe that person will be found?
00:23:26.320 I do.
00:23:27.820 Is this what C-18 is all about?
00:23:30.060 So the government can go into the newsroom
00:23:32.180 and find out who the sources were
00:23:34.860 so they can prosecute people for telling the truth about liberal party corruption, 0.96
00:23:43.980 liberal government idiocy, liberal government authoritarian overreach. 0.91
00:23:51.740 Is that what C-18 is all about? 0.98
00:23:53.540 That's a very candid interview with this senior policy advisor to Justin Trudeau.
00:23:59.420 Yeah, we're going to get this person.
00:24:02.240 Trudeau promised to get the person,
00:24:03.800 and now Jody Thomas is promising to get that person.
00:24:06.760 And this is absolutely frightening.
00:24:11.940 This is absolutely frightening.
00:24:13.240 Because this is what C-18 is all about.
00:24:18.880 I call it the internet extortion bill, but it's more than that.
00:24:22.620 And we're finding out the devil really is in the details.
00:24:26.200 Because we didn't adequately look at this bill.
00:24:31.700 We just knew it was wrong.
00:24:33.020 We knew it was aimed at internet censorship, like C-11 was, 0.77
00:24:39.920 which demands absurd levels of Canadian content.
00:24:43.880 And like the coming online safety bill,
00:24:46.200 which is going to ban disinformation,
00:24:48.420 which the government refuses to define.
00:24:50.380 We knew this was part of a censorship package,
00:24:53.760 a three-pronged package.
00:24:55.880 But we didn't look at the details.
00:24:58.440 And this is what the government hopes you're not going to notice
00:25:00.380 during the summer as this bill comes forth into fruition.
00:25:08.260 They don't want you to question this bill because it is frightening.
00:25:11.700 And what it's aimed at is negation of freedom of the press
00:25:16.520 and our freedom of speech in this country.
00:25:19.500 And it's aimed at putting the government in the newsroom.
00:25:22.260 Trudeau has already bought off the media.
00:25:24.720 But thank God some of them are rising up and saying,
00:25:27.180 we can't work in this environment anymore
00:25:29.340 where the government controls us through the purse strings.
00:25:34.580 We cannot work as free agents in a democratic society,
00:25:38.800 trying to be a free press in a democratic society,
00:25:42.200 when the government controls us financially.
00:25:45.780 And they're saying, enough, stop subsidizing,
00:25:48.820 stop paying us off.
00:25:50.040 And the government knows, I think, the policymakers, at least,
00:25:56.060 maybe Rodriguez, is too vacuous to understand how media works today.
00:26:01.440 And I don't think Trudeau understands it any better.
00:26:04.580 But I'm sure the policy advisors who are putting this legislation together
00:26:08.280 know that this is designed to hurt media.
00:26:12.380 So it gives the government more control,
00:26:15.840 a greater leeway to take more control over legacy media.
00:26:21.840 Now, the new media never accepted the subsidization for the federal government
00:26:26.660 because they sought for what it is,
00:26:29.480 a buy-off,
00:26:31.280 allowing Trudeau to put the media in his pocket.
00:26:34.240 They understood that.
00:26:36.600 But they also understand how new media works,
00:26:39.540 how the internet actually operates.
00:26:43.140 And that's if you want your news to be on social media
00:26:47.240 because it means more money.
00:26:50.220 It means greater circulation.
00:26:52.520 That's how circulation works these days.
00:26:54.560 Some of these people are stuck in the 1970s and 80s
00:26:58.020 where it had to do with broadsheets and tabloids
00:27:00.380 being sold on the corner in the morning.
00:27:04.240 Or television shows with huge ratings.
00:27:10.300 These are all being completely negated now by social media.
00:27:18.100 Shows on YouTube have a higher viewership
00:27:22.980 than traditional media is getting.
00:27:26.080 And they're being rewarded for that.
00:27:28.840 And that's how it works today.
00:27:30.080 But Trudeau either ignores that or doesn't like that.
00:27:34.240 And he wants to control the media.
00:27:37.740 This is flagrant disregard of a free press,
00:27:41.420 flagrant disregard of democratic tradition in this country.
00:27:45.920 And it's dangerous.
00:27:47.740 Yes, we need to resolve or resist
00:27:49.380 because we might be cut off from social media news
00:27:53.680 any day soon, any day now.
00:27:58.120 And that's the direct cause of the government's meddling,
00:28:01.280 of the federal government meddling.
00:28:02.940 And that's going to be sad news.
00:28:04.340 Can you imagine being left with nothing but CBC,
00:28:07.280 your publicly funded state broadcaster?
00:28:10.700 So I encourage you to support independent journalism.
00:28:14.620 Support what we're doing on this station.
00:28:16.760 Please do.
00:28:18.180 And we're going to keep this up.
00:28:20.020 We dedicated this entire show to C-18
00:28:23.340 because the government doesn't want you to know more about it.
00:28:26.880 And there's a lot happening right now.
00:28:28.520 We're going to keep talking about it throughout the summer
00:28:30.340 and keep watching to see what this liberal government is up to next
00:28:34.240 because it wants to take your freedom away.
00:28:37.680 And there is no question about that.
00:28:40.660 So until the next time,
00:28:42.580 I want to say God bless you and thanks for watching.
00:28:46.020 We'll be here for you.