Stand on Guard with David Krayden - August 25, 2023


SOG23： Exclusive Interview with former Liberal MP Dan McTeague (@GasPriceWizard) says Trudeau Liberals are Delusional Beyond Anything that is Easily Explained ｜ Stand on Guard Ep 23


Episode Stats

Length

37 minutes

Words per Minute

179.48167

Word Count

6,683

Sentence Count

414

Misogynist Sentences

5

Hate Speech Sentences

13


Summary

Former Member of Parliament and President of Canadians for Affordable Energy, Dan McTeague, joins me to talk about the Trudeau government and its policies on climate change and the environment. We also talk about how to resist climate change alarmism.


Transcript

00:00:00.260 Welcome back to another edition of Stand on Guard. I'm your host, David Creighton.
00:00:04.840 My guest today is former Member of Parliament and currently the President of Canadians for Affordable Energy, Dan McTeague.
00:00:13.940 We'll be right back with the show.
00:00:17.560 So we are in a very precarious position in this country.
00:00:21.760 We need political change, but we also need to resolve to resist.
00:00:30.000 So, Dan, before I begin, you are also, of course, known as the gas price wizard.
00:00:42.160 I have to mention, you're the guy who knows the lowest price of gas.
00:00:46.520 Not much place is left with low gas prices, though, these days.
00:00:49.960 No, so it's for sure portability. That's not working out very well either.
00:00:53.260 And I was going over your bio, and I knew you were an MP for a long period of time, but I'd forgotten it was 18 years, and I forgot you had three different writings over the years.
00:01:09.200 Kept changing the name, right?
00:01:10.380 But, of course, I remember you fondly from my years on the hill working there, and I always considered you a principal MP, and, of course, a strong Roman Catholic faith, which I call Justin Trudeau a smorgasbord Catholic because he picks and chooses the doctrine he doesn't like.
00:01:30.600 And I know you've always been very principled in your opinions and your policies, so I applaud the work you're doing with Canadians for affordable energy.
00:01:44.180 But I wanted to start off with an announcement.
00:01:47.160 Stephen Gubo, the environment and climate change minister, said a couple of weeks ago that all subsidies are going to end to the oil and gas industry.
00:02:01.400 And you were quick to go on Twitter and say, there are no subsidies.
00:02:05.220 Why is Gubo lying about this?
00:02:08.120 Well, look, I don't know much about the character except from his own past.
00:02:12.220 I remember reading about him during the 1995 referendum, which we almost lost, and his advocacy for separation of the country, for withdrawal from NAFTA, and some disparaging remarks he had for people who suffered as a result of the Walkerton mishap when a significant amount of E. coli wound up in the system.
00:02:34.160 And then further fast forward to his jumping on towers and unfurling banners on the homes of former premiers.
00:02:44.040 All of these things, I think, are well known.
00:02:45.880 What is not well known is that the fanaticism with which he carries out his job as a minister is boundless.
00:02:53.300 And his commentaries, I think, are certainly worthy of rebuke and to resist pretty much everything that that man says, because much of what he's doing is classified as alarmism and deconstruction of the country in the worst sense of the word.
00:03:13.020 I hope that what we will see, though, with the tumbling numbers of the Trudeau Liberals, of course, I was an 18-year member of the Liberal Party when it was the Liberal Party and served the other previous leaders of the party going back as far as 1978.
00:03:31.520 So I'm not new to what this party is, what it represents.
00:03:35.800 It's always been more or less trying to stay at the centre, trying to bring people together rather than finding ways in which to divide them.
00:03:42.480 So Guibo's comments, as someone who is new to the Liberal Party and obviously an avowed separatist, a socialist, and I would say a Marxist, is not a surprise.
00:03:52.180 The response by those out there, or silence to what he's saying, though, is rather appalling, not just for the media, but for those of us in the Liberal Party, the true Liberal Party, who ought to know better.
00:04:03.360 Well, yeah, certainly he's either misinformed or he is deliberately falsifying the information and demonizing, of course, the oil and gas industry.
00:04:14.580 It seems to be just so characteristic of this Trudeau government.
00:04:19.380 I'm going to call it the Trudeau government because, yeah, I know you served 18 years as a Liberal, and I don't think Trudeau really is a Liberal in any sense of the word.
00:04:27.040 He is so extreme and so polarizing, and he is just so arrogant, makes his father look like a humble man.
00:04:36.500 But he is just constantly obsessed with climate change and with increasing the price of gasoline and oil and everything Canadians need just to live.
00:04:49.880 But, you know, what amazes me is that Justin Trudeau and a lot of the mainstream media insist that all of these wildfires that are raging across Canada are the direct result of climate change.
00:05:03.560 They say that without any real tangible evidence.
00:05:07.860 But what strikes me is that we have a carbon tax in this country that's supposed to be stopping climate change,
00:05:15.260 and yet apparently it's not working because we've never had more wildfires.
00:05:19.500 And amazingly, they all end at the U.S. border.
00:05:22.380 So, I mean, how can they have it both ways?
00:05:27.180 That the carbon tax is somehow attacking, fighting climate change,
00:05:32.440 and yet we seem to have forest fires everywhere that they say are a direct result of climate change.
00:05:39.580 Well, they're the result of people with matches and propane tanks and other ways in which to ignite these fires.
00:05:47.420 Very interesting to see that Danielle Smith made an admission just about two weeks ago,
00:05:52.000 where she said of the 600-odd fires in that province in the past year,
00:05:56.400 fully 500 of them were human-induced, somehow, perhaps by accident.
00:05:59.980 But in other cases, we do have people, whether it's the Northwest Territories or whether it is in the Okanagan,
00:06:05.460 police are looking for assailants that they know were responsible for setting fires.
00:06:09.820 Now, whether it was the entire fire or whether it's mischief or mishap,
00:06:14.260 you know, those areas are prone.
00:06:15.980 The Okanagan has had, you know, significant fire activity in the past.
00:06:20.720 I remember the one in 2003.
00:06:22.160 I was a Privy Council at the time, concerned about whether or not we could bring in more help to prevent or to mitigate the fire that took place then.
00:06:31.680 And 10 years before that, in 1993, same thing, same place, same location.
00:06:35.820 Look, you know, we have to be very careful about how we approach these things.
00:06:40.060 As we're seeing now in Maui, the governor has finally had to admit that his early comments,
00:06:45.700 this is about climate change, were false and had everything to do with mismanagement by his own government, the governor himself.
00:06:50.420 We also know that, you know, vegetation in that region has 80 percent, you know, non-indigenous.
00:06:57.040 It's not part of that. It's not native vegetation that's used.
00:07:00.340 So you can go through all of these things.
00:07:02.200 But to quickly come to the conclusion about climate, you have to know that the people that are doing this have an angle.
00:07:08.120 They have a game plan. They have a narrative.
00:07:11.080 And it's not just about altruism saying, hey, I'm worried about the next generation.
00:07:14.820 I'm worried about the climate burning up. That's fine. You can have those delusions.
00:07:17.840 But when it's about grifting, about getting money from the federal government so you can continue to perpetuate these myths, it's amazing.
00:07:25.460 Debo does his little statement the other day about attacking and saying we're going to have clean electrical grid.
00:07:31.660 Impossible to do, by the way, in many parts of the country.
00:07:34.220 But here he is saying these things at the same time that people applauding him from behind, getting money from the federal government.
00:07:40.140 The Canadian Climate Institute and Rick Smith in particular.
00:07:42.720 I doubt I dueled with him a little bit on Twitter.
00:07:46.140 I find it frankly appalling and that the people have the temerity and the gall to go out and say, oh, yeah, it's great what the government's doing.
00:07:53.060 We think more should be done.
00:07:54.000 We should harm the country and we should get rid of all these things.
00:07:56.800 We're collecting 20 million bucks from taxpayers.
00:07:58.900 I hope that with the new government, whenever that should take place, and I know it will take place, the first thing they do, restore the audits on these charities because they get their foundations turning into charities.
00:08:09.820 There's no oversight over their conduct or their activity.
00:08:13.020 It's not charity at all.
00:08:14.660 And second of all, cut the umbilical cord.
00:08:17.340 Do what Jean-Claude Saint did in 1997 with a lot of these, you know, these wacky groups out there that said, we represent these people, therefore you should give us money.
00:08:26.080 He said, well, if you think they're that important, the public thinks you're that important, go fund yourself.
00:08:31.040 By the way, he did say that.
00:08:32.240 I'm sorry, that's my dog in the background.
00:08:34.020 The National Action Committee on the Stats.
00:08:36.340 We'll never forget Cretzian saying to our caucus members, go fund yourself.
00:08:40.660 And it worked.
00:08:41.160 So you would agree then that this net zero electricity policy is outrageous for provinces like Saskatchewan and Alberta that don't have hydroelectric access?
00:08:53.740 Not only outrageous, I think it's insane.
00:08:56.500 And there's no way of describing it any other way.
00:08:58.840 What you have here are policies being driven by people who know full well that it is impossible to make those changes, not with the current menu of technologies available today.
00:09:10.220 Now, unless someone has a magic wand and has some kind of new technology that they think we can bring forth, these things can't happen in the time frame that trendy folks like Stephen Guibo wants.
00:09:21.040 Frankly, Mr. Guibo has only as much power as Justin Trudeau has.
00:09:24.580 Justin Trudeau has only as much power as Jagmeet Singh is prepared to give him.
00:09:29.480 And stupid voters in Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver will tolerate this.
00:09:33.780 At the end of the day, this isn't about Saskatchewan.
00:09:36.160 This isn't about Nova Scotia.
00:09:37.340 This isn't about Alberta.
00:09:37.980 This is about Canadians being able to make ends meet.
00:09:40.100 And guess what?
00:09:41.000 The number one issue in this country is not, you know, socks, sobbing and selfies.
00:09:46.000 The issue in this country is not about weather and how it changes because we are one of the coldest countries in the world.
00:09:51.740 It is about affordability.
00:09:53.340 If you want to talk about the main issue, it's energy prices leading to much higher costs for everything, which in turn has the Bank of Canada saying, let's raise those interest rates.
00:10:02.000 So anybody who thinks this is cool and trendy, look at your bank account.
00:10:05.620 When you sit down at the table trying to figure out how you're going to make ends meet because you have a month at the end of pay rather than pay at the end of the month.
00:10:12.420 Well, then you have no one to blame but yourselves.
00:10:14.100 And I say that to the people here in Toronto.
00:10:15.560 It's not a message for the West.
00:10:16.840 It's a message for Torontonians, the GTA, Hamilton, you know, and those regions that have, you know, typically thought, hey, I love the socks.
00:10:24.100 I love the sobbing.
00:10:25.420 I love the hair.
00:10:26.760 Well, that is not going to help you now, is it?
00:10:28.340 Because affordability has now been significantly eroded.
00:10:31.000 The country is in a very, very tight situation and it's not going to get any better until we have a change in policy.
00:10:35.760 And we need to show people, like Stéphane Dubot and his colleagues, the door.
00:10:41.320 Well, I'm hoping this is almost like a fad that is going to be disappearing within the next five to ten years.
00:10:50.260 Because if we go through with this plan of net zero by 2035 or even 2050, I think we're going to see a lot of Canadians suffering.
00:10:59.520 But I have a clip here, actually a couple of clips, and I thought you'd enjoy this.
00:11:04.720 This is from a U.S. perspective, but I think, you know, the Biden administration is running exactly on the same level as Trudeau administration.
00:11:13.280 And I find this Fox Business News host quite interesting.
00:11:20.260 Folks, maybe this will slow them down, because I think it's going to be the greatest economic boondoggle in American history.
00:11:26.320 Yep.
00:11:26.940 Solyndra, all the other stuff, a proverbial drop in the bucket.
00:11:30.580 Right now, EV sales are being lifted by these massive subsidies, but there are so many of them being built.
00:11:36.180 They're piling up.
00:11:36.860 In fact, supply is up 350 percent.
00:11:39.400 And some just aren't selling.
00:11:40.480 The Genesis, they've got one that sold 18 electric whips.
00:11:43.620 18!
00:11:44.420 Even Tesla, their whole market share, but they've been slashing prices like crazy.
00:11:47.520 Now, the only way to meet the outrageous targets that they want is to make it a pain in the gas to drive an internal combustion engine car.
00:11:55.140 The administration has such plans on the board, folks.
00:11:57.800 The EPA is going to change tailpipe rules.
00:11:59.980 There's all kinds of other gimmicks.
00:12:01.160 It's going to force you to just ditch your gas-powered car.
00:12:04.580 In the end, there's going to be mountains of unsold cars.
00:12:08.600 I don't know what we're going to do with the lithium batteries.
00:12:10.640 We're going to strip mine the entire planet.
00:12:12.200 The economy, the economic toll will be crazy.
00:12:15.740 Again, remember, mark my words, the worst economic boondoggle ever.
00:12:19.760 So, Charles Payne, I think, is quite good on this.
00:12:24.780 And he raises a number of points.
00:12:27.700 But first of all, he's saying that the regulations are going to become so unbearable and so extreme
00:12:32.880 that we will no longer be able to drive gas-powered cars.
00:12:36.020 Do you see the Trudeau government trying this here?
00:12:38.260 Well, I look at this from the point of view of someone who's worked in Canada and the United States
00:12:42.980 in my capacity and energy and realize the Americans are now beginning to get a little bit of a taste
00:12:47.920 of what Canadians have already experienced with not one but two carbon taxes.
00:12:51.860 You're seeing that in Nova Scotia and British Columbia.
00:12:54.600 But in terms of the electric vehicle, I mean, look, you want to drive one of those, that's fine.
00:12:59.160 Just don't get myself.
00:13:00.480 Don't get people who are hard-pressed to go pay and subsidize your woke rides.
00:13:05.180 And if you think there's some kind of environmental advantage, it's zero.
00:13:08.000 In fact, it's probably more damaging.
00:13:09.800 And the only people profiting from this are the major automotive companies who've been
00:13:14.560 able to bamboozle into the idea of building batteries here in Ontario or Quebec, or wherever
00:13:19.460 the case may be, with massive subsidies.
00:13:22.180 Once the grift ends, once these massive real subsidies, because, you know, you start off
00:13:28.900 the question about oil companies and you both talking about theirs.
00:13:32.000 You take away the oil industry and natural gas industry in this country.
00:13:34.920 And I'm a guy who's taken them on.
00:13:36.220 There's no other MP in history who took them on the way I did.
00:13:39.220 And I still am not their allies.
00:13:40.620 And I'm not their friends, especially when they do the kind of funny stuff they're doing
00:13:44.120 now and appeasement with the green folks that want them gone.
00:13:47.960 When you take away an industry like that, how are you going to pay?
00:13:52.140 Who is going to manage to graze the $25 to $30 billion every year that industry creates
00:13:57.840 so that the government go around and throw out money that they don't have?
00:14:01.160 Worse, the technology is changing.
00:14:02.680 The lithium battery may not be the coal battery that we're looking at in the next five to ten
00:14:07.040 years.
00:14:07.400 My old company that I work for is public relations.
00:14:09.440 Toyota Lexus has now developed a different type of technology using batteries which are
00:14:13.920 lighter, easier to charge.
00:14:15.940 So everything that we're doing now, we're spending all this money, may be obviated before
00:14:20.260 it even gets started.
00:14:22.500 The reality is that at the end of the day, the people that are really laughing aren't just
00:14:26.760 people from companies outside of Canada, but China, because they always get a pass.
00:14:30.820 Look, I think electric vehicles are great.
00:14:33.520 They're wonderful.
00:14:34.140 If you're driving in the city, I've driven one, but I still think that in this country,
00:14:38.740 what matters to people is range, is reliability.
00:14:43.300 And people have a very strong sense of saying if you can equal all the things that an internal
00:14:47.520 combustion engine is doing, by the way, they're extraordinarily clean now.
00:14:51.420 The Biden administration is going to raise the EPA so that the mileage or that the fuel economy
00:14:57.260 becomes such that it is impossible.
00:14:58.920 No engine could possibly do that.
00:15:00.460 So three-cylinder engines are now doing what eight-cylinders used to do 20 years ago with
00:15:04.400 a third, a fraction, one-tenth of the emissions.
00:15:07.320 Bottom line is that this is all, as I said before, magic and make-believe.
00:15:12.420 And it's saying you're going to achieve a standard for which technology doesn't exist to address
00:15:17.080 it.
00:15:17.440 What you're really doing is, unless you're ignorant, you're basically saying you want
00:15:21.520 the human condition to be reduced to rubble.
00:15:23.860 And you want people to live in a state of nature, eating acorns, wearing animal skins.
00:15:27.420 And you know what?
00:15:28.560 Americans certainly won't put up with that.
00:15:30.280 Eventually, Canadians will get around to saying, maybe we shouldn't do that.
00:15:32.520 Maybe it's not such a great idea.
00:15:34.580 Especially in France.
00:15:35.140 Well, what amazes me is Giubo, of course, is off to China tomorrow to visit with a Communist
00:15:44.480 Party allied environmental group that he is the vice, executive vice chairman of.
00:15:51.160 He doesn't seem to see any conflict of interest in this.
00:15:54.880 All of the problems we've had with Chinese interference in Canadian elections, and he's
00:16:00.380 blithely going to China, which, I'm sure you know, produces 33% of the greenhouse gases
00:16:08.600 in the world.
00:16:09.740 And the heat puts absolutely no pressure on China.
00:16:13.940 Trudeau, of course, admires China as the dictatorship that can turn its economy around on a dime.
00:16:22.120 But they put no pressure on China.
00:16:24.720 Canada produces 1.5% of global greenhouse gases.
00:16:28.920 So even if we're living in caves, we don't have any electricity, we have no power, and
00:16:35.940 we have no gasoline, we're not going to make an impact on this so-called global problem.
00:16:42.980 And it just amazes me how any government can be so obsessed with an issue that they are
00:16:49.160 willing to almost go through a cultural revolution in this country without any sort of understanding
00:16:56.580 about basic human needs, because the ideology is just paramount.
00:17:02.520 It's all about ideology.
00:17:03.600 It's his ideology, and it coincides, that's Gibault's ideology coincides with Trudeau's.
00:17:09.340 If you look at the track records there, get out of homes and fossil fuels.
00:17:13.940 No more suburbs.
00:17:15.460 Make sure your home is a lot smaller.
00:17:17.240 No more using natural gas to heat your home.
00:17:20.260 But even if that were something we can contend with, the most egregious is what he said back
00:17:24.960 in 2019, 2020, about Mai Wong Tzu, what he said about Huawei is that the only reason Huawei
00:17:30.720 is being beaten up is because these Western telecom companies are feeding the heat on the 5G network.
00:17:37.000 This is a Manchurian candidate.
00:17:39.440 And for people who don't understand the expression, I'm not talking about the movie, I'm referring
00:17:42.480 to somebody who can be used as a useful idiot by another country to come out and spout
00:17:47.120 these things off.
00:17:47.980 He is a Marxist, and there's no doubt that his comments and his reputation, anybody who's
00:17:52.240 done a bit of research on this man, will come quickly to the conclusion he's the last person
00:17:56.560 you should have in Parliament, much less as a minister, and his jetting off to another
00:18:00.600 country, where I come from, in my generation of Liberals, that would be considered seditious
00:18:06.300 and potentially treasonous.
00:18:09.020 Now, the laws on those are very, very vague and very, very specific in terms of what constitutes
00:18:14.600 that, but he did not disclose these things prior to.
00:18:17.500 And the very mere fact that the media is not playing into this and understanding the implications
00:18:21.980 is extraordinarily dangerous.
00:18:24.180 He's not there to convince China that they should use less.
00:18:27.700 If he were willing to do that, he'd be going and saying, hey, we've got a lot of natural
00:18:30.580 gas to offer you, and you can use that as a substitute to coal.
00:18:33.780 Instead, he's going there to get a good pat on the head and try to pretend that he's going
00:18:38.740 to hurt Canada while giving China a pass.
00:18:41.440 This is wrong on a number of fronts.
00:18:44.200 And the mere fact that we have far less any authority looking into this, the mere fact the
00:18:49.620 Privy Council Office would allow something like this to happen in the PMO.
00:18:52.940 Well, this is on Trudeau.
00:18:54.160 This is the same party that has corrupted our democratic process by permitting the Chinese
00:18:58.880 to manipulate it.
00:18:59.920 And I agree with those out there, say it may be other countries, Iran in particular, because
00:19:03.720 we have a number of people who have received donations and have been doing very well here
00:19:09.020 in the GTA via money coming from the Iranian regime.
00:19:14.180 That aside, this is a very dangerous present.
00:19:17.200 The fact that it's being given a pass is, in my view, appalling, far more appalling than
00:19:22.240 any issue I see in this country.
00:19:23.660 Where is the public inquiry that has been demanded?
00:19:27.360 Where is the public inquiry to restore the integrity of our institutions?
00:19:30.780 Perhaps you have to be a contributor to the Liberal Party to become a judge in this country.
00:19:36.240 But that aside, this situation with Mr. Deboe, I think, spells what is wrong and why our
00:19:42.820 country and its institutions are on a precipice of collapse that will put Canada in a position
00:19:47.840 that no one thought possible 10, 15 years ago.
00:19:50.460 And that's joining the third world in terms of its rank as it been in the Republic.
00:19:55.160 Yes.
00:19:55.960 Well, that's a very interesting perspective.
00:19:58.080 And it's heartening to hear that.
00:20:00.280 But I've got another clip for you here, which might...
00:20:02.240 I don't know if you've seen this one or not, but it's worth watching.
00:20:08.400 And that's why we've invested massively in electric vehicles, in batteries.
00:20:15.860 And the clean fuel standard, the very purpose of that is to allow for transportation with
00:20:22.440 less harm to the environment.
00:20:23.700 I have every confidence that industry is going to respond positively.
00:20:28.740 So I don't have any concern whatsoever because I have so much faith in the innovators in this
00:20:37.780 country who are being fueled by the investments that we are making.
00:20:41.500 I mean, there are going to be no internal combustion engines in Canada in 2035.
00:20:44.800 I mean, there are going to be no internal combustion engines in Canada in 2035.
00:20:50.900 But that a member of Parliament from Prince Edward Island can say there are going to be no
00:20:57.960 internal combustion engines by 2035.
00:21:01.180 Are they serious?
00:21:02.320 Or are they mad?
00:21:04.420 Well, it goes along with the insanity.
00:21:06.460 But the irony for me is in the backdrop of the picture that member of Parliament himself
00:21:10.000 was the symbol of the United Way.
00:21:11.300 The United Way has to spend thousands of dollars from its funds to pay for people who can't
00:21:18.280 afford to put home heating, oil, stove oil, furnace oil to keep themselves warm or their
00:21:23.540 natural gas or propane across the country.
00:21:26.000 So for him to sort of wax polematically and say we can get rid of these things and those
00:21:30.600 who are already destitute in the maritime provinces can somehow afford $40,000 to $100,000
00:21:36.280 cars is delusion beyond anything one can that is easily explained.
00:21:42.240 I'm not sure if it's neurosis or a psychological thing with these folks, but he's in the
00:21:47.760 Maritimes and he knows full well since he made that interview two weeks ago that the numbers
00:21:52.060 for the Liberal Party are tanking, they're collapsing, they're cratering, and they are
00:21:56.380 because it's not the Liberal Party that I belong to where I was responsible for helping
00:22:00.300 people and getting rebates and find ways to help people manage during difficult times
00:22:04.100 and holding some of these corporations to task as well as governments when they try to
00:22:09.860 find cute, trendy ways.
00:22:11.560 No, David, what we're looking at here is virtue signaling.
00:22:15.340 We're looking at some kind of attempt at moral evaluation in which these people have greater
00:22:21.580 morality by saying we'll drive electric cars, we'll have heat pumps, we'll have wind power,
00:22:27.520 we'll have solar power.
00:22:28.640 It's so nice to have that, but they cannot displace the heft, the bulk, and the need that
00:22:34.980 can only be derived from things like natural gas, nuclear, propane, oil, or coal.
00:22:40.760 Anything short of that and you will leave people destitute.
00:22:43.500 So one has to think this is bordering on neurosis and madness, but it is also a significant reflection
00:22:50.000 of arrogance and stupidity mixed in one.
00:22:53.060 It's a very dangerous combination.
00:22:54.180 Here's a guy with a straight face who ought to know better, who's an elected member of
00:22:57.620 Parliament saying, yeah, there won't be a combustion engine in 2035.
00:23:00.860 What is he, Kreskin?
00:23:02.580 I can tell you there will be a lot of vehicles that his government will be gone and the next
00:23:06.100 government will have to change that mandate to what is more realistic and pragmatic and
00:23:09.980 acceptable.
00:23:10.980 And, you know, I don't come at this easy.
00:23:13.100 I was, as mentioned earlier, Public Relations with Toyota Canada helped introduce and do the
00:23:17.680 cut lines to the press for the first hybrid that we brought out.
00:23:21.080 It was called the Tsunami.
00:23:22.020 You'll know today is the Prius.
00:23:23.760 That technology was guaranteed the last 30 to 50 years.
00:23:26.660 And guess what?
00:23:27.200 It's working out.
00:23:27.960 30 years on, it's still considered the way to go.
00:23:31.320 To suggest that somehow we can get rid of all these things, the beauty of Canada's energy
00:23:35.200 resources, both internally and its potential externally, is the diversity of energy.
00:23:40.180 We have it all.
00:23:41.240 And to put all our eggs in one basket?
00:23:43.220 We'll wait till an ice storm comes through.
00:23:45.940 A hurricane comes through and knocks down all your windmills or your hydro towers.
00:23:52.180 We'll see how far you get then.
00:23:53.320 Because I can tell you, without natural gas and propane as a backup, you're going to leave
00:23:56.720 a lot of people stranded, cold, in the dark or extreme heat.
00:23:59.780 Well, clearly, there's a lack of thought, a lack of planning going on here that is potentially
00:24:09.540 catastrophic for the country.
00:24:11.380 And I just hope we have enough time to draw back from this awful planning.
00:24:19.560 Because this government is putting Canadians in a very difficult situation.
00:24:26.020 And it's just getting worse.
00:24:28.780 Why is the price of gas like this?
00:24:30.800 This is an MP from PEI.
00:24:34.160 Pierre Paglia did a news conference last week in front of a gas station in PEI.
00:24:39.680 The price was $1.85 a litre.
00:24:44.340 And here's an MP with crazy ideas.
00:24:48.360 Why is the price of gas 20 cents higher in PEI?
00:24:50.600 Is it just because of the transportation costs?
00:24:53.420 Two carbon taxes.
00:24:54.660 The first, of course, 14.31 plus 15%, of which the federal government takes 5%.
00:24:59.440 So that, by the way, is not rebated.
00:25:02.000 The second carbon tax, at this point, is about $0.09 a litre.
00:25:05.920 That's the clean fuel regulation, the clean fuel standard.
00:25:08.460 We at Canadians for Affordable Energy put together with a team of individuals, some political backgrounds like myself, economists, Ross and the Kittrick.
00:25:17.840 And we discovered that the effect of the clean fuel standard would be 6 to 1 negative.
00:25:23.320 In other words, the cost-benefit analysis which the federal government refused to do in the first go-around would hit so hard those that would be impacted that it would basically cause several problems to stall economically and otherwise.
00:25:37.440 They went back to the drawing board, made a few amendments, said natural gas and propane and steel diesel for heating.
00:25:44.220 Home heating won't be affected.
00:25:45.620 And yet it's affecting gasoline and diesel on which your economy runs.
00:25:49.760 So the beginning of the summer, before all this nonsense and oil was pretty much treating it the same as what it is today, it's $1.50 a litre.
00:25:56.480 Now it's $1.85 heading to $1.90, probably $2 in the next few weeks for a variety of reasons.
00:26:03.000 So that $0.50, of that $0.50 fully, $0.23 is the result of the two carbon taxes.
00:26:09.940 And those will double, as we know, and triple until 2030.
00:26:13.380 So now you're talking $2.50 a litre, maybe even $3 a litre for diesel.
00:26:17.140 And let's not forget, because every time I do my analysis, I like to show this to people, because I do it every day and I've been doing it for 27 years.
00:26:26.860 You want to find out what's going on with that Canadian dollar.
00:26:30.040 The Canadian dollar is no longer trading because of the attack of the Liberal government, shutting down pipelines, permitting Biden to do something as stupid as killing the Keystone XL,
00:26:38.260 in which we can get energy to the rest of the world, because we have a federal government saying there's no business case,
00:26:43.060 while the rest of the world is taking advantage of the fact that we were playing international Boy Scouts and Girl Guides.
00:26:48.820 Practical effect, additional $0.28 on the litre of gasoline and diesel.
00:26:53.680 Now, because all commodities are priced in U.S. terms, imagine having that kind of a burden on everything you buy.
00:27:00.200 Food, transportation costs, lumber costs, cement costs, steel costs, asphalt for the road.
00:27:07.360 So all of these things mean that because we no longer have the petrodollar status we did,
00:27:12.980 not only are you paying a carbon tax of 23, 24 cents a litre in Prince Edward Island, Nova Scotia,
00:27:18.360 and of course, let's not forget British Columbia, you now have to pay an additional, let's call for what it is,
00:27:24.560 an additional $0.28 to $0.30 a litre, depending on the HST or GST that you're using,
00:27:29.760 because the Canadian dollar no longer behaves the way it is, because we're not selling oil and gas to the extent that we could or should.
00:27:35.180 Bottom line, woke green policies are costing most people in Canada who vote liberal far more than they can afford.
00:27:44.320 It's only a matter of time before they start shooting those smartening up pills.
00:27:47.460 Well, that is precisely it.
00:27:53.980 I don't know if you stay in touch with any of the current sitting members of Parliament,
00:27:59.820 but do you have a sense that there is almost a caucus revolt impending on Justin Trudeau?
00:28:05.840 Because he is clearly putting a lot of political lives in danger with his bad policies and his bad planning.
00:28:13.300 Do you think he's facing some kind of revolt from his own caucus?
00:28:18.320 No, most are very effete.
00:28:19.920 They were there because of him.
00:28:21.120 They're not very well qualified.
00:28:22.600 In other words, they got in.
00:28:23.680 Their condition for coming in was being, you know, ring kissers, if you will.
00:28:30.800 They're not known to be very strong.
00:28:32.880 They don't have an identity beyond being members of Parliament,
00:28:35.240 and their clingingness to Trudeau is the only reason.
00:28:38.060 If you don't like his father, because I work for his father, you may not have agreed with him,
00:28:41.860 but at least the man, you had to stand up and debate him.
00:28:44.080 And if you didn't debate him, fine.
00:28:45.760 That was one thing.
00:28:46.520 You expect that he would treat you with, you know, significant contempt.
00:28:50.780 If you debated him, you had a strong position.
00:28:52.500 You had a moral position.
00:28:53.440 You had a conscientious decision.
00:28:55.520 You had something that's well-articulated, well-explained, and well-reasoned.
00:28:58.960 He would back off, and he would allow you to do what you had to do,
00:29:01.460 but you had to prove it to him.
00:29:02.900 This guy can't handle it.
00:29:04.020 He'd surround himself with yes-men and women who, you know,
00:29:07.200 who basically go along with his garbage and his drool and his drivel.
00:29:10.440 And the reality is that for many people,
00:29:13.080 this is a group of people that will go down with the ship, and rightly so.
00:29:17.040 Perhaps the Liberal Party will renew itself at some point.
00:29:19.280 I doubt it.
00:29:20.580 But it's pretty clear the public is short of, you know,
00:29:24.900 myopia from people and voters here in Toronto and a few in downtown Montreal and Vancouver.
00:29:29.840 The rest of the country gets it.
00:29:30.960 It is time for these people to go, and frankly, if members of the Parliament don't understand that,
00:29:35.780 I can say there's 50 who should be dusting off their resumes because they're going to need it
00:29:39.440 post-2025 or whenever Jack Lee Singh, you know, buys a spine and realizes what a goof
00:29:45.640 and what a, you know, what a poltroon he looks like.
00:29:48.220 He's just no other way of expressing it than, you know, the guy looks like he's been had.
00:29:54.860 And, you know, for him to walk around strutting his stuff, pretending, you know,
00:29:58.620 I see him attacking the Royal Bank.
00:30:00.000 I'm not a big fan of the banks either.
00:30:01.760 Well, he and his wife have a nice little mortgage on rentals, you know,
00:30:04.900 and own another home and a rental property, and the HELOC and everything else is our Royal Bank backed.
00:30:11.520 It's kind of a little disingenuous to be biting the damn hand that feeds you.
00:30:15.060 Well, certainly, there is such an air of authoritarianism around Trudeau and this government.
00:30:23.820 It's not just what they're doing to consumers through this carbon tax
00:30:28.700 and through their energy policies, but they are so enthused about censorship.
00:30:33.520 I have never seen a government more, in the Western world,
00:30:36.580 more enthused about shutting down free speech,
00:30:39.980 and it's something I'm certainly fighting as a journalist.
00:30:44.360 So I know you're the head of a nonpartisan organization.
00:30:48.620 You're not fighting for any political figures,
00:30:52.780 but you are not going to be supporting the re-election of Justin Trudeau.
00:30:58.240 No, and look, in fairness, Aaron O'Toole is a good friend of mine.
00:31:01.500 His father and I were federal and provincial counterparts in my old writing
00:31:04.780 in Ontario, writing Pickering, Scarborough East,
00:31:06.840 three writings that changed over time and names as the writing got bigger.
00:31:11.440 But I went after Aaron as well for following this trap of weather taxes
00:31:16.420 and believing that the world was coming to an end.
00:31:18.600 That's not what he was saying, but to somehow find and put water with his wine,
00:31:22.680 I thought it was the most ridiculous idea.
00:31:24.340 No, I'm not partisan.
00:31:25.600 I've never been the only member of any party has been the Liberal Party.
00:31:29.000 I've never joined another party.
00:31:30.160 I have no interest in joining parties.
00:31:31.600 But if, you know, if a party is prepared to commit itself realistically to policies
00:31:37.860 that make sense, and what I'm hearing from Pierre Polyev sounds a whole lot more
00:31:43.940 like where I was as a member of Parliament in the Liberal Party 20 years ago,
00:31:48.140 then you can understand why folks of my generation, we're not that old,
00:31:52.000 are gravitating towards that and realize that pragmatism has an important role
00:31:57.060 to play in our politics and an important role, an even more important role to play
00:32:00.980 when you keep your eye off the game.
00:32:04.680 And the game here is to help Canadians make ends meet,
00:32:06.700 not find trendy, cute, arduous ways to make it tough for them to make ends meet
00:32:11.060 while claiming that you somehow have some virtue over the climate.
00:32:15.360 There is no one out there who's going to be able to change the climate
00:32:18.920 by simply putting a tax on people.
00:32:21.280 And I think the tax on people is an attack on their livelihood and the standard of living
00:32:26.620 and is unfortunately an attack on the unity of the country as a consequence.
00:32:31.040 Everything that they have done reminds me of what his father,
00:32:34.000 Justin Trudeau's father, said.
00:32:35.120 This is a little bit like, you know, the sorcerer's apprentice
00:32:39.660 opening the damn Pandora's box and now can't shut the thing.
00:32:43.400 And for that reason, he has to go.
00:32:45.780 And anybody who doesn't want to do that, I say to them,
00:32:47.980 look, I'm not here because I don't like Justin Trudeau.
00:32:51.680 I said good things about him at the outset.
00:32:53.440 I did know him a little bit.
00:32:54.940 I was concerned about his, you know, about his being green.
00:32:59.220 And there were things that I thought were going to be problematic.
00:33:02.260 And I was a liberal president, writing president,
00:33:04.260 the writing association I represented for many, many years.
00:33:08.060 But this is not what I would have expected of the Liberal Party.
00:33:12.220 And if you ask the question, were my generation of liberals?
00:33:15.080 Well, most of them, I was one of the younger ones.
00:33:18.320 I'm in my 60s.
00:33:19.300 The average age when I was elected when I was 30, which was 30 years ago.
00:33:23.920 The average age was about 55.
00:33:25.820 You can imagine many of them are not involved anymore.
00:33:28.380 Many of them have passed on.
00:33:30.620 For many of us, though, who've seen a pragmatic Liberal Party embrace what it did,
00:33:35.980 looking at necessity, tackling the issue before us,
00:33:38.240 which was unfortunately unity and at the same time economic collapse.
00:33:43.620 We did well on both fronts because we knew what the real issues were.
00:33:47.720 And I think Canadians are becoming more connected with reality.
00:33:50.720 And this government is completely and utterly detached from it.
00:33:53.540 So the federal Trudeau Liberals are so far away from reality,
00:33:58.560 it would take the Hubble telescope to see where the hell they are.
00:34:02.040 That's good.
00:34:04.680 We're going to use that one.
00:34:05.880 Well, that's probably a good note to end it on because it's refreshing to hear a common-sense liberal,
00:34:14.920 like yourself, talking about this situation honestly and forthrightly.
00:34:21.000 You've identified all of the key information.
00:34:24.720 Nobody knows this sector better than you do.
00:34:28.420 And you're – I think, you know, you're – thank God for the work you're doing
00:34:32.400 and that you're out there trying to –
00:34:35.740 I don't want to touch with people, this old little thing.
00:34:37.980 You can't find it online anymore.
00:34:39.620 I don't think you can read that.
00:34:40.900 This is a report on gasoline pricing in Canada, June of 1898.
00:34:47.320 Liberals did care about fuel prices.
00:34:49.680 They did care about helping people and allowed me to do other things.
00:34:53.940 Background during the impact of mergers in the grocery industry,
00:34:57.220 several bills that went with it.
00:34:58.880 Look, I'm not showing these because they happen to be in front of me.
00:35:01.520 It's just that there was a time when the party actually truly cared and its membership cared.
00:35:05.560 They've lost their way.
00:35:07.140 And as a result, I think it's time for voters to tell them to get lost.
00:35:11.260 Okay.
00:35:12.320 Well, thank you so much, Dan McTague, for joining me today.
00:35:15.760 And keep up the good work, stay in touch, and let's do this again.
00:35:20.960 We'll do it again.
00:35:21.880 We need good journalists like you, David.
00:35:23.180 Thanks for doing this.
00:35:23.980 All right.
00:35:24.460 Thank you so much, David.
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