Stand on Guard with David Krayden - November 17, 2023


SOG51： Farmers Fight Back. No Farming Means No Food ｜ Stand on Guard Ep 51 #DavidKrayden #Trudeau


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The farmers are coming to Ottawa to protest Justin Trudeau's refusal to exempt them from the carbon tax. Will the Prime Minister cave in to their demands? Or will he continue to stand firm in his opposition to a carbon tax carve-out for farmers?

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00:00:00.000 Welcome to another episode of Stand on Guard. I'm your host, David Creighton.
00:00:06.620 The farmers are coming to Ottawa to protest Justin Trudeau's refusal to exempt them from the carbon tax.
00:00:15.860 I'll tell you more about it when we come back.
00:00:21.720 So we are in a very precarious position in this country.
00:00:24.840 We need political change, but we also need to resolve to resist.
00:00:54.840 The farmers are coming to Ottawa Tuesday, November 21st. There's going to be a rally.
00:00:59.900 If anyone wants to be a part of that, be at the Eternal Flame around 1130.
00:01:05.940 The rally starts at 1, and they'll be marching towards the Senate.
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00:01:29.400 We're going to be talking about a very crucial issue.
00:01:31.560 Because as you know, last week, Conservative Leader Pierre Paulyeb directly asked Prime Minister Justin Trudeau
00:01:40.560 whether or not he was prepared to have another carve-out of the carbon tax.
00:01:46.880 He gave it to his friends in Atlantic Canada to prop up his Liberal MPs in that part of the country.
00:01:54.880 But Trudeau refused to even answer the question because he doesn't want to help farmers.
00:02:01.040 Let's listen to some of that exchange from last week.
00:02:03.980 So disappointed in the NDP leader's flip-flop on carbon tax for heat.
00:02:08.200 But the good news for the Prime Minister is the NDP leader has flip-flopped on his flip-flop
00:02:12.560 and now supports the Prime Minister's plan to quadruple the tax.
00:02:16.440 This, with 2 million Canadians, a record-smashing number going to a food bank.
00:02:21.080 Will the Prime Minister create another carve-out on the carbon tax for farmers
00:02:27.540 so that Canadians can afford to eat?
00:02:29.940 The right Honourable Prime Minister.
00:02:37.900 We know, Mr. Speaker, that farmers are always focused on being good stewards of the land
00:02:42.360 and we are working with them in investing, in supporting them in many different ways
00:02:47.620 to ensure that we can continue to put good quality, affordable food on people's tables
00:02:53.060 right across the country.
00:02:54.480 And that's what we're going to continue to do, Mr. Speaker.
00:02:57.160 Mr. Speaker, farmers and indeed Canadians from coast to coast to coast know that as we fight
00:03:02.280 climate change, as we put more money in people's pockets every three months with hundreds of
00:03:07.300 dollars with the pollution price return, we're going to continue to step up in building a
00:03:13.240 strong economy for tomorrow, something the Conservatives simply don't understand.
00:03:19.520 The Honourable Leader of the Opposition.
00:03:22.240 Mr. Speaker, the Prime Minister is quadrupling his carbon tax on the farmers.
00:03:27.160 who make the food, quadrupling the tax on the truckers who ship the food, therefore quadrupling
00:03:32.100 the tax on all who buy the food.
00:03:34.080 Good news is there is a common sense conservative bill that's passed through the House and in
00:03:38.820 the Senate where the Prime Minister's senators are holding it up.
00:03:43.540 Will the Prime Minister once again cave and allow another carve-out on the carbon tax for farmers?
00:03:51.620 Yes or no?
00:03:58.540 The Right Honourable Prime Minister.
00:04:01.160 Many people living in rural areas across the country, including many farmers, continue to be stuck heating their homes with home heating oil.
00:04:08.560 It is dirtier, it is more expensive, and it is something that is expensive to replace.
00:04:16.500 That is why, Mr. Speaker, we are stepping up with measures that are going to deliver heat pumps to families right across the country, the 1.2 million households across this country, in every part of this country, relying on home heating oil, so we can help them fight climate change and save money at the same time.
00:04:35.000 That's our plan. The Conservatives have no plan.
00:04:42.780 The Honourable Leader of the Opposition.
00:04:47.280 Our common sense plan is found in Bill C-234, which would give another carve-out to farmers on the carbon tax.
00:04:58.400 The Prime Minister has claimed that he won't cave again. He says there will be no more carve-outs.
00:05:04.900 We are asking him to keep in mind that there are two million people who have to go to the food bank every month because of his policies.
00:05:10.940 Will he put his ego and pride aside and ask his liberal senators to pass common-sense Bill C-324 to axe the tax and create a carbon tax carve-out for our farmers?
00:05:26.020 You know, you've got to say, too, the bill is so simple, it's just 2-3-4. Even Trudeau can remember that. He's not very good with numbers, but he can probably remember that much.
00:05:39.900 You notice how he's gasping, too, while he's answering the questions? Sure sign that he's not telling the truth.
00:05:45.560 And he's, once again, telling people, go buy your heat pumps.
00:05:50.140 Yeah, right. That's going to help farmers. 0.99
00:05:52.480 The right Honourable Prime Minister.
00:05:57.700 Mr. Speaker, farmers across this country know the costs of climate change.
00:06:02.520 They know the costs of extreme weather events, whether it be floods or fires or more intense storms.
00:06:09.720 Farmers are worried about their future, worried about their kids' future, worried about the country's future.
00:06:14.220 That's why we put forward a plan that is reducing our emissions and growing our economy at the same time, while putting more money in Canadians' pockets.
00:06:24.380 The Conservatives have no plan to fight climate change, no plan for the future of the economy, no plan for future generations.
00:06:33.060 We will continue to do what's necessary to support Canadians, including farmers, long into the future.
00:06:39.140 The Honourable Leader of the Opposition.
00:06:44.720 The Prime Minister won't answer a simple question.
00:06:46.780 It's about the common-sense Conservative bill to carve out farming from the carbon tax.
00:06:52.460 But I understand why he feels he's in a bind.
00:06:55.480 Because his Environment Minister said,
00:06:57.140 As long as I am Environment Minister, there will be no more exceptions to carbon pricing.
00:07:03.780 That implies that he would resign if there was another carve out.
00:07:09.700 Will the Prime Minister sacrifice his crazy carbon tax minister and support our common-sense bill to take the tax off?
00:07:18.380 Well, no wonder Giebel, the crazy carbon tax minister, Stephen Giebel, was out lobbying last week.
00:07:34.340 And this week, trying to ensure that Senators don't vote for Bill C-234.
00:07:41.560 Because after the bill went through hell in the handbasket, getting amended, it's back to normal, and we want the bill to pass.
00:07:49.280 It will exempt farmers from the carbon tax.
00:07:52.040 Giebel doesn't want that.
00:07:53.460 Do you remember what Giebel said recently?
00:07:55.500 This is the kind of guy he is.
00:07:56.600 Supposedly, the Conservative Party will want to bring us back to the Stone Age, Mr. Speaker.
00:08:00.500 He somehow thinks the Conservatives want to bring us back to the Stone Age, even though it's the Liberals with the kooky climate change minister who wants to freeze us, shut off the lights, turn off the gas, stop driving cars, and live in caves.
00:08:22.020 That, to me, sounds like the Stone Age.
00:08:24.540 So I don't know what he's talking about, and he doesn't either.
00:08:27.520 It's all bloody political rhetoric that is meaningless after a while.
00:08:32.780 It doesn't compute at all.
00:08:35.120 But as I said, Giebel has been up to lots of, shall we say, backroom diplomacy, to be kind.
00:08:43.220 He's been pressuring Senators to vote against this bill.
00:08:49.260 So let's hear a little more from the Environment and Climate Change Minister, who's been very busy for the past week or so.
00:08:56.800 lobbying on behalf of the Cabinet, on behalf of the government, with Liberal Senators.
00:09:03.820 And you'll find out he's not even sure how many Senators he's been talking to, but give or take about six.
00:09:11.860 And he clearly has a very, very bad agenda here.
00:09:16.100 Thank you, Minister Guilbo, if you could explain what you were saying to Senators that you've been talking to about Bill C-234 and how many Senators you've been speaking to about it.
00:09:28.760 Thank you very much, Mia.
00:09:34.780 A couple of things on that.
00:09:38.620 First and foremost, people should remember, and if Pierre Pogliev had any sense of moral decency, he would admit that we've already...
00:09:49.760 Any sense of moral decency?
00:09:53.300 You're the guy who wants to leave Canadians out in the cold, who thinks Canadians' hunger, Canadians' warmth doesn't matter as long as we're fighting climate change, as long as we're upholding your narrow ideological perspective.
00:10:08.800 Don't talk to me about morality.
00:10:10.980 Included 97% of fuels used on farms, because at the time when we put in place carbon pricing in Canada, the price on pollution, we realized that there was no alternatives for these applications.
00:10:27.320 So the price on pollution in the agricultural sector only applies to 3% of...
00:10:33.260 Complete fabrication.
00:10:35.380 That's a complete lie. 1.00
00:10:36.960 He's a liar for saying it. 0.99
00:10:38.320 He has no idea where those figures come from, and he's expecting us to just swallow that. 1.00
00:10:44.920 And of course, it's all rubbish. 1.00
00:10:46.200 It's all nonsense. 0.96
00:10:47.400 And if he was so concerned, if he really believed for a minute that it only applied, the carbon tax only applied to 3%, why is he so concerned about this bill passing?
00:11:01.100 Why does he want to defeat this bill so badly?
00:11:03.440 Obviously, this is a lie.
00:11:04.620 Obviously, he really is concerned about getting this bill stopped, because he knows this will exempt farmers from a carbon tax that currently affects 100% of fuels.
00:11:19.160 And he's lying about this.
00:11:20.880 And don't give me this talk about price on pollution.
00:11:23.840 Carbon is not pollution.
00:11:27.780 Your words are pollution.
00:11:29.860 Your office has become pollution.
00:11:31.620 The Liberal government has become pollution, but carbon is not pollution.
00:11:35.840 Of fuels that are being used, where alternative technologies are available.
00:11:41.680 And we've, in the case of grain drying, for example, and we've provided more than half a billion dollars of funding to support farmers in that transition, number one.
00:11:54.420 Number two, it's, I mean, we're against the creation of a new exemption.
00:12:00.680 We were against Bill C-234 when it was in the House of Commons.
00:12:06.240 We voted against it.
00:12:08.960 Yes, yes.
00:12:10.000 You voted against it.
00:12:11.020 All Liberal MPs voted against it.
00:12:13.460 Even the Green Party supported it.
00:12:15.240 Even the Blockevichwa supported it. 1.00
00:12:18.060 And it was passed. 0.99
00:12:19.860 The bill passed, the House of Commons, despite your idiocy and despite the lack of compassion and caring by the Liberal government, by Justin Trudeau's government. 0.99
00:12:32.160 It passed. 0.98
00:12:33.160 Now you want to stop it in the Senate, the unelected Senate.
00:12:36.400 That's your plan.
00:12:37.240 So I have had conversations with, I don't know, maybe half a dozen, give or take, senators in the course of the last...
00:12:45.240 And she takes his glasses off, she's rubbing his eyes because he's not telling the truth.
00:12:48.940 He knows how many he's talked to, and it's more than six.
00:12:51.620 My source is telling me it's a lot more than six.
00:12:54.420 Two weeks.
00:12:56.260 But people should remember that since 2015, there are, I mean, there are a handful, but very, you know, only a handful of Liberal senators.
00:13:06.480 The senators we've nominated as a government since 2015 are independent senators.
00:13:12.980 The only person who...
00:13:14.520 Not exactly.
00:13:15.600 They're voting with the Liberals most of the time.
00:13:19.440 Don't call them independent.
00:13:20.440 Tell senators what to do and how to vote.
00:13:22.580 It's Pierre Poliev.
00:13:23.340 We don't do that.
00:13:24.080 So I've had conversations.
00:13:25.900 That's precisely what you're doing.
00:13:28.260 What does Pierre Poliev have to do with telling senators how to vote?
00:13:31.700 You're the one meeting with them.
00:13:32.820 You're the one telling them how to vote. 1.00
00:13:34.360 What a hypocrite. 0.99
00:13:35.200 With some of them to explain our position and why we don't support that bill. 0.99
00:13:39.280 But this is what they've been.
00:13:40.600 They've been conversations.
00:13:41.480 The Senate last week voted down some amendments that I think would have reduced the scope of that legislation.
00:13:49.280 And now, I guess the final thing is the third vote.
00:13:51.780 What will the government do if that bill passes?
00:13:54.140 You're against further exemptions.
00:13:55.940 But if that bill passes, this would be a new exemption, right?
00:13:58.520 So what would you do if that happens?
00:14:00.920 We'll see what the Senate decides.
00:14:03.360 And then we'll need to make our own decision as to how we act once the final decision by the Senate has been made, which hasn't been the case.
00:14:16.840 Yes.
00:14:18.280 So if the Senate votes to approve this bill, I hope we see the last of you, Stephen Gilbo.
00:14:22.360 You have no business being in cabinet in the first place.
00:14:25.200 All you were is a stuntman for Greenpeace.
00:14:27.420 And Greenpeace was an eco-terrorist group.
00:14:29.700 I used to spike trees in British Columbia. 0.98
00:14:31.880 So don't give me this garbage about you'll see. 0.97
00:14:34.160 You're going to be gone. 0.99
00:14:35.680 You better be gone because you've already said, there's another carve-out. 0.89
00:14:41.060 It'll be over my dead body.
00:14:42.720 You are already saying that you're going to be resigning if this bill becomes law.
00:14:51.140 And it should become law.
00:14:53.980 This is only just, you have the gall to call out peer poly if you're not having any moral responsibility.
00:15:00.800 You're the one who wants Canadians to freeze. 0.93
00:15:03.580 You're the one who wants to shut off the natural gas so we can fight climate change.
00:15:08.100 So we can wean ourselves off fossil fuels.
00:15:11.640 We already know that this carbon tax is completely ineffective in doing any fighting against climate change.
00:15:21.780 We already know it's purely political.
00:15:24.420 It can be carved out.
00:15:26.220 It can be put on pause if the political reasons are there.
00:15:30.460 If you want to get votes in Atlantic Canada, you can exempt people from the carbon tax.
00:15:36.240 What about this existential threat?
00:15:37.920 What about the catastrophic end of the world in 10 years because of climate change?
00:15:42.620 I thought your carbon tax was so important to that.
00:15:44.900 Well, apparently not.
00:15:46.460 So this is all a big joke.
00:15:47.840 It's all a big farce.
00:15:48.640 It's all about the liberals being very selective and who gets their exemption.
00:15:52.940 They know most farmers are not voting liberal, especially those in Western Canada.
00:15:58.520 And this is about sticking it to farmers.
00:16:00.980 That's all this is about.
00:16:01.740 So I encourage you to come out next Tuesday.
00:16:04.900 If you're in Ottawa, there's a rally one.
00:16:07.060 It starts at one.
00:16:08.400 People will be gathering up, forming up, as we used to say in the military at 1130 in front of the eternal flame.
00:16:15.020 And there's going to be a news conference.
00:16:17.560 And there might be a very special guest.
00:16:20.880 I can't tell you who that might be or will be right now.
00:16:24.920 But it's going to be worth your while to be there.
00:16:27.760 And I think we're going to win the day in the Senate because common sense and goodwill will see the day.
00:16:35.360 That's all for now.
00:16:36.560 Thanks for joining me today on Stand on Guard.
00:16:39.460 I'm your host, David Creighton, and I'll be back tomorrow with more news.
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