In this episode of Stand on Guard, host David Creighton interviews journalist Mia Hughes about WPATH and what that really means, and how she came to have access to the documents that lead her to uncover the scandal that rocked the transgender community.
00:02:26.080It's so nice to have you on the show with me this morning.
00:02:29.340Just showing a clip there, as you were talking about a subject matter that a lot of folks are very interested in.
00:02:37.280And a lot of folks know what WPATH means, as I discovered this morning.
00:02:41.880I didn't even have to put WPATH in the title.
00:02:44.940As soon as I put Mia Hughes name there, I think people said, this must be about WPATH.
00:02:49.840And for those of you who don't know what it means, WPATH is the World Professional Association for Transgender Health.
00:02:57.920Now, I've got a lot of questions to ask, and I'm not going to keep you on too long, but perhaps if we could just, I want to start by saying, I have a, I'm going to ask you this question later, but I have a personal interest in this because there is a close member in my family who was indoctrinated into this whole transgender movement.
00:03:17.940And I'm not going to say who exactly that is, because he or she would not appreciate me doing that.
00:03:24.960But it's a very close family member, and it's been a source of utter pain for me, what has happened to this individual.
00:03:34.460So I have spent a lot of my time as a journalist fighting this as much as I can, because I'm sure you've noticed, Mia, that every time the mainstream media talks about this issue,
00:03:47.940they use this issue, they use this phrase, gender affirming care.
00:03:53.780And I think you would probably agree that it's not just a euphemism, it's a horrendous euphemism, because there's nothing going on here that is care.
00:04:03.480And of course, we'd like to talk about transitioning.
00:04:05.620These are all euphemisms that really sound very nice.
00:04:08.300But this is a process, this is a political activism on the part of governments around the world, that is, I think, in my opinion, and I'm not putting these words in your mouth, but I call this butchery, what is going on to children.
00:04:31.800And I guess we'll start with, can you just take, how did you, how did you come in possession of the WPATH files?
00:04:41.180Can you just lead us into that, if you can?
00:04:43.580They were, so I don't know who leaked them from the WPATH forum, first of all, they were given to Michael Schellenberger after, just weeks, I think, after he hired me to cover gender.
00:05:00.680So I don't know who the source or sources are, but it was a stack of documents, and it was the perfect task for me to do, because I had been writing about gender for so many years already.
00:05:18.040I had been watching WPATH, I was already well aware of the fact that this was not an organization that was to be trusted, that they had created this carefully crafted facade to make themselves look like a professional medical association.
00:05:36.680But all they were, all they are, is a trans activist group, many of whom are armed with syringes and scalpels, and they are advocating for what I believe is the worst medical scandal ever to have occurred.
00:05:56.460Well, that, yeah, that certainly is in keeping with what I think I led off with in terms of this being completely reprehensible.
00:06:09.920When I read through some of the descriptions of what these, this gender affirming care really is, when you, when you have, we talk about inserting fake vaginas into, into male bodies and attaching phony penises to female bodies.
00:06:28.460It sounds to me like the kind of work or the kind of butchery that went on in concentration camps during the Second World War.
00:06:40.520And, of course, the notorious asset, Dr. Joseph Mengele, comes to mind.
00:06:46.400And I'm sure he thought he was doing a great work for mankind.
00:06:56.280They completely forget what mankind is all about, what humanity is all about, what their duty is as a doctor.
00:07:03.900And I wonder, so you're essentially saying that this group is not only professional, but how can doctors call themselves professional when they are promoting this pseudoscience?
00:07:18.560So you have got to, the psychology of it is fascinating.
00:07:26.520You've got to understand that this is a group of medical and mental health professionals who, they are true believers in an ideology that says there's such a thing as a transgender person.
00:07:44.340Okay, so that means their belief system, which they fully, fully are signed up to and believe, their belief system says that some people are born trans.
00:07:56.620It's just an innate, natural type of human being.
00:08:00.060And you cannot, in their mind, none of this is true.
00:08:38.660So you block the puberty and then you pump them full of a whole ton of powerful hormones that their body is not designed to manage, to handle.
00:08:49.420And then, you know, you do, you remove healthy breasts, you chop off healthy breasts, you invert healthy penises, you create appendages made out of forearms and sew it onto the groin.
00:09:04.480But because these medical professionals and mental health professionals, they live in a different world to us, I really do believe that.
00:09:13.080They're true believers and they live in the world where innately transgender people exist.
00:09:18.900The world that I live in and most decent people live in is some people come to the conclusion that they are transgender for a variety of reasons.
00:09:30.640Normally, mental health troubles or they might have a paraphilia called autogynephilia, where this is men turned on by the fantasy of becoming a woman.
00:09:41.860And people will come to the conclusion that they are transgender for a large number of reasons and oversimplifying it and making it out as if they are innately trans because they have this mismatched gender soul residing within them doesn't help them.
00:10:00.440But my saying that makes me a bad person to those who are true believers.
00:10:06.460Well, that's certainly exactly what people would say.
00:10:13.760But whatever happened to the phrase, he or she will just outgrow this.
00:10:18.980And I think in 99% of the cases, that's exactly what happens.
00:10:24.660And we talk about, you know, the psychological pain that is apparently being endured by these children,
00:10:31.380being questioning their gender and not being feeling secure in the sexuality they have or the gender they have.
00:10:40.180I'm wondering if there's more pain generated years later when after they have done something to their bodies that is, in many cases, irreversible,
00:10:51.940or at least is going to require a lifetime dependence on Big Pharma.
00:10:58.140Once again, Big Pharma is a part of this, but a lifetime dependence on drugs.
00:11:02.880Is that not going to create a psychological problem later in their lives?
00:11:10.800I would say, I mean, we're making predictions here, but I would say certainly I think we have got a tsunami of regret and despair on the horizon.
00:11:23.660Because if we're focusing on kids, like I talk about all ages, because I think everyone is being harmed by this.
00:11:31.380But if we're focusing on kids, if you look at the contagion, so we have an epidemic.
00:11:43.440They're just adolescents, and they're just going through puberty, and they're just having a hard time.
00:11:48.420But they collided with the messaging of the modern trans rights movement that tells them,
00:11:53.540if you hate your body, that could be a sign that you're transgender.
00:11:57.060Now, I challenge anyone to go out and find me, an adolescent going through puberty, who does not hate his or her body.
00:12:04.280So that messaging puts every single adolescent going through puberty at risk of coming to the wrong conclusion that they are transgender.
00:12:13.800If you throw in autism, if you throw in borderline personality disorder, if you throw in all sorts of mental health issues that put the teenager at an increased risk of coming to the wrong conclusion that they are transgender,
00:12:27.440you basically have this absolute perfect storm catastrophe.
00:12:32.180So all of these kids, they get sucked in, they think that they're transgender, and it all feels very real to them.
00:13:04.180Instead, these endocrinologists and these surgeons are chemically castrating them, chopping body parts off them.
00:13:12.240And then, yes, exactly, the brain finishes maturing at around age 25, sometimes later if there's autism or other issues going on.
00:13:20.380And when they hit 25 or 30, they're going to realize that they got caught up in something, some mad cultural moment.
00:13:30.780And they're not really transgender, and they've ruined their health, and they've sacrificed their fertility, and parts of their body are missing.
00:13:37.420And then there's going to be an enormous amount of regret.
00:13:41.540And it's amazing to me that those in the gender clinics aren't looking that far ahead.
00:13:46.620But that's typical of everyone in this so-called field of gender-affirming medicine.
00:13:51.980They prioritize the present, but they sacrifice the future.
00:13:58.800If you look at all of the studies that show that this is supposedly beneficial for adolescents,
00:14:04.500the follow-up time is like three months, six months, two years at the most.
00:14:09.020So you're chopping healthy breasts off a teenage girl, and then you follow her up for two years.
00:14:13.820She says she's still happy, so you say, okay, it's fine to chop the healthy breasts off teenage girls.
00:14:19.320No, you have to follow her up until she's 30, and she wants to have kids, and she wants to breastfeed.
00:14:25.660You have to follow her up until she's 40, and she's a fully mature adult, and she realizes the absolute weight of the decision that she made when she was 14.
00:14:35.880Don't just follow her up for two years.
00:15:14.540We don't allow 11-year-olds to drive cars.
00:15:17.240We don't allow them to consume whiskey or to smoke weed or to do a lot of things because we think that's dangerous for them and for society.
00:16:29.260But if you'd offered me tubal ligation at age 14, I'd have taken it because that version of me was absolutely never going to want kids.
00:16:37.700So, again, the true believers, they're true believers in an ideological belief system that has no grounding in reality.
00:16:48.740And they have completely forgotten everything that we know about child and adolescent development.
00:16:54.860And I think they've forgotten basically everything that we know about what it means to be a human being, to grow and mature and develop and explore different possibilities.
00:17:05.580They're really, it's a monstrous crime.
00:17:12.540And these people are no longer, as far as I'm concerned, capable of calling themselves professionals, doctors, healthcare providers.
00:17:19.760These are hardcore, turbocharged ideologues.
00:17:24.360And they're pushing an ideology, not science, not medicine, just as so-called scientists and doctors in the Soviet Union pushed ideology above medicine, just like Nazi doctors pushed ideology above medicine.
00:17:40.920There were euphemisms for the euthanasia program in Nazi Germany.
00:17:45.620It was a crusade against useless eaters.
00:17:48.540These were people who were deemed not worth living.
00:17:52.060And therefore, the doctors were doing a good work for society.
00:18:02.720Now, thankfully, we are getting some pushback in Canada from this.
00:18:07.280And I remember when my old friend, Premier Daniel Smith, who I knew from the Calgary Herald days when she was a reporter, wonderful woman.
00:18:15.620I've always, and I admire what she's doing 95% of the time.
00:18:20.480And I think what she's done on this file is courageous because when she came out the first time and said, we're going to introduce this legislation, there was tremendous hostility.
00:18:32.780I remember at the time, the then-liberal transport or the employment minister who had recently stepped down, Randy Boissoneau, the liberal member from Edmonton Center, came on in a news conference.
00:18:47.180And he actually had the unmitigated gall to compare transitioning or a sex change operation to joining the chess club at school.
00:18:57.200I never forgot that because I thought, is this how deluded this individual is?
00:19:02.960He thinks this is no different than joining the chess club and children should not be prohibited from having chemical castration or sex change operations at 12.
00:19:16.920Do you think the work that you're doing has influenced political leaders like Daniel Smith to take that first step forward and to say, no, we're saying no to this.
00:19:30.620We're at least putting some barriers in place because this chaos is no longer acceptable.
00:19:38.940I would say that every single person who has spoken on this in Canada contributed to Daniel Smith's decision, whether you've got a small Twitter account and you're anonymous and you're just tweeting about it, or whether you're, you know, it's your entire career and you're writing 70 page reports on it.
00:19:58.380It's every single person who speaks about this contributes to a person with the power to stop it taking action.
00:20:08.620And that's been part of the problem in Canada is that we were such a small group for so long.
00:20:17.360There have been many people speaking on this in Canada for a number of years, but we were so small and we were so ignored that the people in positions of power who could have acted did not have the courage to do so.
00:20:33.700I think Elon buying Twitter was an enormous turning point because people could speak out much more strongly on Twitter without fear of losing their account.
00:20:49.120So sure, I hope that the work I've done has had some impact, but I also think a lot of people have taken great personal risk as well to speak about this.
00:21:08.180I think it's been a grassroots response that has been very effective and we've gotten through to this.
00:21:15.160Very few journalists have really done much on this file except affirm the gender affirmers.
00:21:23.440And I think it's been shameless and it's been disgusting to see this.
00:21:28.380This complete lack of objectivity, complete lack of critical thinking on this file from so many journalists who will just repeat the propaganda points, repeat the talking points, call them news, call it a story.
00:21:45.500And it's without even bothering to ask if there's another side to this issue.
00:21:51.420Well, I had an experience with Radio Canada, the French CBC, and it goes deeper than that.
00:21:59.660There are certainly some reporters who are just regurgitating trans activist talking points without – they don't even consider the possibility that these trans activists could be wrong.
00:22:11.040There was a piece in Global a few days ago that I tweeted about because everything in the article was the complete inversion of the truth and it really upset me because this is my issue.
00:22:24.360I know this issue and every single thing – and it was all trans activist quotes and talking points – and everything in the article was just completely backwards.
00:22:33.160So that's, I think, an innocent enough mistake on the part of the reporter who did that.
00:22:40.280But Radio Canada, this journalist, this was a few months ago, she reached out to me because she was going to be working on a piece on so-called gender-affirming care.
00:22:50.960And I wrote – I took a very long time.
00:22:54.020I wrote a long, long, almost essay-like response to all of her questions, which were a bit hostile, I could tell.
00:23:01.460And she wrote back to me and it seemed like she had listened and it seemed like she understood and then she produced an absolute garbage hit piece basically calling me the leader of a hate group in Canada, did not put any of what I actually stand for in the piece, and then had four of the most extreme trans activists in Canada quoted as if they're the heroes of this whole journey.
00:23:24.760So there's – that is unforgivable because she was presented with exactly what I believe and she chose to not include any of it and then to give the trans activist point of view.
00:23:40.120And yes, I can understand how exactly he must have felt following that exchange.
00:23:46.240If you had an opportunity to sit down with Justin Trudeau, as a horrible experience that might be, especially when we learned recently how exactly he treats women in real life, this phony faux feminist who has bullied women his entire life and has bullied female cabinet ministers and bullied female members of parliament.
00:24:14.000And they have talked about it, and I don't want to get off topic, but when I heard Trudeau the other day again reiterating his support for feminism and he is the proto-feminist and a proud feminist, how can any man be so hypocritical and be guilty of such damning mendacity that he can actually have the gall to stand up and say that?
00:24:42.000But I'll get to – if you had a chance to sit down with Justin Trudeau in a, shall we say, a civil environment, what would you tell him in terms of his promotion of the whole transgender rights?
00:24:56.980I mean, nobody is out there in a more obvious, in a more visible way, saying that we have to move forward on this file, this is about trans rights, this is about caring for our kids, and if you don't support this, you don't really love your children.
00:25:13.920I mean, what would you say to Justin Trudeau?
00:25:15.420You know, I'd love the opportunity to ask him what is a woman, to ask our dear leader, who's such a devout feminist, I'd love for him to define what is a woman to me, because there was the trend of journalists doing that in the UK for a while, asking politicians.
00:25:36.920In other countries, I think, as well, simple question, what is a woman, and then you let them just make complete fools of themselves, waffling on with all of this circularity and nonsense, and the whole, a woman is anyone who identifies as a woman.
00:25:51.120If you can – I would love the opportunity to really, really make him tell me what that means and what he believes a woman is.
00:25:59.120But on the child side, I would – oh, it's difficult where to start.
00:26:10.040I mean, I would explain how social contagion works.
00:26:14.480I would talk to him about the social contagions that we have seen in recent history of anorexia, bulimia, cutting, even multiple personality disorder in the 80s.
00:26:26.740I would explain to him the social phenomenon, the cultural phenomenon that just continues to repeat and repeat throughout history, and that what we are in the midst of right now is simply the same thing.
00:26:44.540These kids, they're not trans, first of all, because there's no such thing as a transgender person.
00:26:49.520No one is trans, there's no innate transgender people, but these kids, they're not trans, not a single one of them, and therefore, when you understand that they're just caught up in a mad cultural moment, they're caught up in the latest social contagion,
00:27:04.520and that we as a nation have chosen to – we have failed to protect them from a medical world gone completely mad, and we have therefore committed one of the worst crimes any nation has committed in this medical scandal,
00:27:23.700because other nations have at least made an attempt to pull back on this.
00:27:29.300Even in the US, it's very divided, we are as bad as all of the blue states, but at least the US has the red states, and they have some balance, and they have some kind of debate, whereas we, under Justin Trudeau,
00:27:43.020I believe, have committed the worst crime in this medical scandal, because from coast to coast, we have ignored what's happening to these children, and that's his legacy.
00:27:52.160I would want him to know that's his legacy. He's going down in history as the prime minister, who did nothing to protect these vulnerable youth from this very powerful cultural force,
00:28:05.640and we just handed them into – we just shipped them off to gender clinics and placed them in the hands of ideologues who have no respect for the Hippocratic Oath whatsoever.
00:28:16.400Well, you know, that's very, very profound, and I appreciate your perspective on that.
00:28:26.340It strikes me that the liberal government, the Trudeau government, it really is the Trudeau government, because he has totally subsumed the Liberal Party with his personality.
00:28:36.500And the Liberal Party has become a culture of death. It's become a cult of death from birth to old age.
00:28:46.960This is a government that doesn't just say abortion is okay. It celebrates abortion as being a wonderful experience for women.
00:28:55.480And I really almost get my stomach tied up in knots when I hear these cabinet ministers describe abortion as a liberating experience for women,
00:29:03.580because it's just – and it's foundational to Canadian freedom, which, of course, is nonsense.
00:29:08.480It's not in the Charter of Rights. It's not in the Constitution.
00:29:11.280And even if you talk to pro-choice advocates, most of them will say it's a horribly painful decision for a woman to make,
00:29:18.120and for the rest of their life they have to deal with the consequences of that decision.
00:29:22.180It's in no way a positive, liberating event. But I digress.
00:29:27.260On the other hand, you have the Trudeau government making Canada the assisted suicide capital of the world.
00:29:33.160People are coming here from all over the world to commit suicide.
00:29:36.580We have a euthanasia program that is booming more than the economy.
00:29:41.320Our euthanasia program is booming. We want to expand it to include other people, the poor, the dispossessed,
00:29:48.980anyone who is deemed to be mentally ill in any way, including perhaps drug addicts and alcoholics, join the crowd.
00:29:57.580Let's all commit suicide together. This is the cult of death.
00:30:00.720And, of course, we've got a government that is encouraging butchery against children.
00:30:06.300This is the island of Dr. Morrow is what's going on here.
00:30:10.040And they're too deluded to even admit it.
00:30:13.800And I just find it fascinating that it all seems to be coming together in a very negative way for this government.
00:30:22.620I think people are finally waking up and saying they have really, really gone beyond the barriers of good sense,
00:30:31.840rationality, or even good government, which, of course, I don't think they ever provided.
00:30:37.740But we had the Million Person March for Children again this year.
00:30:43.220And my friend, Camille L. Shaikh, organized that in a wonderful way.
00:30:49.120And he asked me again to be the master of ceremonies, which I was.
00:30:52.960I support this event every year now for the second year in a row.
00:31:08.040So the organization, the group that organized the conference is called Genspect.
00:31:14.560It's an organization that is founded in 2021 and exists to promote a non-medical approach to dealing with issues related to your gender.
00:31:29.260So whoever you are, whatever age you are, it's promoting a non-medical approach.
00:31:35.240And WPATH is obviously, I see the two groups as complete opposites.
00:31:42.640I see Genspect as the antidote to WPATH's poison because WPATH views any attempt to help a person overcome their gender distress as being akin to conversion therapy.
00:31:55.700And that's transphobia and that's transphobia and that's bigotry.
00:31:57.860So they advocate for the medical approach and Genspect advocates for the non-medical approach, the mental health approach.
00:32:05.220And so every year, WPATH organizes an annual conference.
00:32:10.600And Genspect now organizes a counter-conference in the same city at the same time as a counterbalance to the harm that WPATH is promoting in their conference.
00:32:24.260So last year it was Denver, this year it was Lisbon.
00:32:30.580We had, it was a wonderful group of speakers.
00:33:06.340And also I did make the statement that there's no such thing as a transgender person in an innate sense.
00:33:14.820There are people who make sense of their lives through the label of transgender right now, but no one is innately trans and doctors should not be treating a type of person that actually does not exist in a medical or real sense.
00:33:29.900So we had, I'm told we had, we invited, Peter Boghossian was also a speaker at the conference and he wanted to, his, he wanted his talk to be, he invited WPATH members to take part.
00:33:47.100And we can, he wanted to have a discussion with them and find out what they think and see if you could reach any middle ground.
00:33:53.640Of course, WPATH refused because they're a cult and they don't talk to outsiders.
00:33:59.200They're just, they're insulated in an echo chamber.
00:34:02.400So they refused, but I'm told that there were two WPATH members who came to the conference, at least on the first day.
00:34:11.260They probably didn't like my talk very much because I did say some things about WPATH that are completely true, but would not have been pleasant to listen to for them.
00:34:20.600But on the last day, Billboard Chris and I, before I flew out, we actually went over to the WPATH hotel because it was just minutes down the road.
00:34:31.580So we went over to the WPATH hotel and we stood outside and Billboard Chris had his signs and we, we were filming and nobody came to talk to us.
00:34:40.660Which is no surprise, but there was a large, the elevator was right there and there was a big glass wall.
00:34:47.480So we saw them all coming down with their suitcases and a couple of very unsavory looking types gave us the finger.
00:34:55.020And that was the entire interaction with WPATH for me.
00:35:01.340Well, it's, I'm glad you're able to attend and we will be continuing with the good work of the Million Person March.
00:35:09.120I think that it's a wonderful experience for me to see people of all faiths join together.
00:35:19.120There were Hindus and Sikhs and Jews all there, all expressing their love for children.
00:35:25.040And the fact that the state does not raise our children.
00:35:30.020I think that's a, that, that is foundational to Canadian democracy or to everything we've inherited from our Anglo-Saxon history, from, from the, from Great Britain, from the American experience.
00:35:44.100It's all about parents raising children and never the state.
00:35:48.980Any state that raises children is a totalitarian one.
00:35:52.600And it gets me very concerned when Trudeau talks about the state taking control over parents and their children.
00:36:00.880This is all about parental rights for me.
00:36:02.620Like I, like I, like I told you at the beginning of this interview, I'm very personally committed to this because of a family member who was indoctrinated into this theology.
00:36:13.220I would even say it's a, it's a theology.
00:36:16.400It's become a religion for some people.
00:36:19.120And so I'm wondering, what has motivated you?
00:36:22.960It's just, you, you've obviously have a passion for this that is singular in many ways.
00:36:29.020So what, what basically has motivated you?
00:36:33.460I discovered this in 2019 and instantly, I would say instantly, I was obsessed with it.
00:36:42.200First of all, because when I, when I first discovered things weren't quite what they seem with the gender issue, just none of it made sense.
00:36:51.920So the initial obsession was just, I need to make sense of this.
00:36:56.180And if you want to make sense of this, you actually really do have to put in hours and hours and hours of reading because it's all so mad and it's all so insane that unless, you know, well, like when I first learned about it, there's like, I discover that, you know, I went along with trans women are women, but I didn't think we were really supposed to believe that trans women are women.
00:37:23.000Like this group of men, like this group of men in society, we were supposed to believe that they were actual, real, literal women, the same as me, my mother, my grandmother, that, that was mad to me.
00:37:50.900And again, I found out that it was real.
00:37:52.980These men actually do believe that they're lesbians.
00:37:55.640It's like a really bad 1970s homophobic joke brought to life.
00:38:00.320But then it was the real true obsession came when I found out what was happening to kids in gender clinics, adolescents in gender clinics, because, well, first and foremost, I'm a mother, and I have a teenage daughter.
00:38:21.460And so I know, I just instinctively knew that it was wrong.
00:38:27.500I mean, every decent person who's grounded in reality has to look at what they're doing in gender clinics and realize immediately that it's wrong.
00:38:36.220Everyone who remembers what it was like to be a teenager, to be floating around and have no sense of identity and to hate your body and to want to be someone else,
00:38:45.240everyone who knows what it means to be human has to look at what's going on in gender clinics and think that it's an actual crime.
00:38:54.140But when I discovered that and I started to really read into how it had happened, why it had happened, then I got sucked into the whole social contagion angle of it and looking at all the social contagions that have happened throughout history,
00:39:09.680all of the psychiatric epidemics, the times that the field of psychiatry has gone mad and unleashed something insane upon the world and done terrible harm.
00:39:20.840And the more I researched, the more I realized that we are living through something that it's a remarkable moment in history that will be talked about for centuries to come.
00:39:36.800We're living through the Salem witch trials, something that is so completely mad that people of the future are going to look back and just think, how?
00:39:47.500How could they have allowed that to happen?
00:39:50.360How did anyone believe that girls could be boys and boys could be girls and that it was the right thing to do, to chop the breasts off 16-year-old girls?
00:40:02.520And so because it's so mad, because it's so extraordinary, I just, I researched it obsessively and then I started to write about it only because I knew how confusing it was when I first discovered it.
00:40:20.020And so I started writing about it and so I started writing about it on Twitter in taking things that I'd learned and comparing the past to now to help other people understand.
00:40:29.920And it really seemed to resonate with people and my account grew really quickly and then I got a whole career out of it.
00:40:37.340But I think we can't find our way out of the mess we're in unless we understand how we got here and unless we understand where we are.
00:40:47.940So I just wanted to help people understand because I had learned so much that I found really interesting.
00:40:58.100I was just reminded I have a, I had a slide here that was, yes, yes.
00:41:05.520My producer reminded me that Elon Musk recently posted on X that puberty blockers are a horrific crime against children and those that push them are criminals.
00:41:16.600And my colleague at the Human Events, Charlie Kirk, wrote, the left-wing government of Britain announced today that it is banning puberty blockers as a treatment for gender dysphoria in children under 18.
00:41:29.160And soon American blue states will be the only places on earth this barbaric practice is still allowed.
00:41:34.940Of course, he's forgotten about Canada.
00:41:36.800They always, Americans forget that Canada exists.
00:41:39.840The entire nation of Canada, we don't even have any, well, actually, Alberta, they're doing a, like, I assume that, like, there's a, there's a, an opposition and there's the legal case brought by a gal and skipping stone and, and others that are trying to block Danielle Smith's.
00:41:59.220But yeah, at least we have one province doing the right thing, trying to do the right thing.
00:42:04.720And I, for years, I hope this was a faddish obsession that was just going to go away.
00:42:13.600But I think it's, it's going to take the hard work that you are exhibiting, that you are doing to make this go away.
00:42:21.620And, but I do think people are coming back to their senses.
00:42:25.160And I think the election of Donald Trump was a part of that.
00:42:28.800I don't always agree with Donald Trump, but I usually do.
00:42:32.340And I think he is very courageous on this file.
00:42:36.180And I don't think he's going to take any nonsense on this file.
00:42:39.960He's got some great people positioned who are not going to accept the talking points anymore.
00:43:03.800Because a lot of his backbench MPs have inadvertently at times let that information out, sometimes forgetting themselves, if you will.
00:43:15.100Because a lot of them have these YouTube shows and they, they will say, well, when we have the election in the spring, whoops, shouldn't have said that.
00:43:23.420But I, but Justin Trudeau being Justin Trudeau, this is a completely narcissistic individual, completely ego obsessed, egocentric.
00:43:32.080I think he believes he can win one more election because he is entitled to.
00:43:38.780Canadians can't really despise him that much.
00:43:43.800And, but I want to thank you for coming on the show today.
00:43:46.080And I, this, this time is almost 45 minutes.
00:43:49.960And it's interesting this, I'm looking at the numbers this morning, but at least a third less than usual because YouTube suppresses this topic all the time.
00:43:59.400And it just drives me crazy, but I don't care.
00:44:02.880I'm not here to get the biggest numbers on YouTube.
00:44:05.600There's a lot of clowns out there who get huge numbers by offering crap.
00:44:10.480I try to offer political conversation and guests like yourself who have something pertinent, relevant, and profound to say and who are doing real work.
00:44:22.060And I'm not here to be, to be another clown in the court of public opinion, because we, it's easy to criticize Justin Trudeau and to go on ad nauseum about how stupid he is.
00:44:35.400But we really do have to provide antidotes and alternatives.
00:44:41.680And I think that's what we need to do more of here on YouTube.
00:45:06.180Share it with your friends and family.
00:45:07.520Make sure that this message gets out, this interview is heard, and that Mia's work is recognized.
00:45:12.980Because I tell you, she's doing a tremendous job, not just on this file, but for Canadians, for Canada, and for everybody who loves freedom, anywhere.
00:45:25.360This is, and anyone who loves their children.
00:46:23.220Yes, that was Mia Hughes, and I want to thank her for being on the show, and thank you everybody who watched today, because this is what we try to do on Stand on Guard, is to talk to people who are on the ground, working on these issues, doing the hard work that needs to be done.