Stand on Guard with David Krayden - Trudeau Resigns but its NOT Over... ｜ Stand on Guard

00:00:00.000 welcome back to another episode of stand on guard we're breaking the news here as we can

00:00:06.860 i'm trying to write for three different publications at once and i'm

00:00:09.480 got some interviews lined up and this is incredible but in so many ways it's not what

00:00:18.340 it seems and i'll explain what i mean about that when i come back in a mere moment

00:00:24.360 we need a political chain

00:00:39.120 but we also need to resolve to resist

00:00:44.280 yes we need to continue to resolve to resist all right everybody's saying justin trudeau just

00:00:59.420 resign as liberal leader maybe not as prime minister it's quite unclear listen to what

00:01:08.080 he actually said you know i'm seeing all kinds of headlines from the amateurs out there who say

00:01:13.980 justin trudeau is has resigned as prime minister can't no he has not no he says he intends to

00:01:21.760 resign as liberal party leader and as prime minister after the liberal party selects a new leader

00:01:29.380 listen to what he actually said at the news conference and we're going to listen to that

00:01:34.700 right now because this is incredible news and i'll explain why i think there's more going on here

00:01:43.220 beneath the surface behind the scenes than is obvious from this news conference this morning

00:01:52.200 friends as you all know i'm a fighter every bone in my body has always told me to fight because i care

00:02:00.860 deeply about canadians i care deeply about this country and i will always be motivated by what is in

00:02:09.100 the best interest of canadians and the fact is despite best efforts to work through it parliament

00:02:18.880 has been paralyzed for months after what has been the longest session of a minority parliament in

00:02:26.760 canadian history that's why this morning i advised the governor general that we need a new session of

00:02:35.260 parliament she has granted this request and the house will now be prorogued until march 24th

00:02:43.340 we talked about this yesterday didn't have to think much about it did she

00:02:48.780 people are telling me that actually reached out to the governor general and and

00:02:54.940 they they they have been totally they've been kicked off of x for for doing so leaving her a direct

00:03:01.200 message and this is this is absolutely outrageous but obviously she didn't have to think twice about

00:03:06.360 this this is a trudeau foundation board member this is a woke politician this is a woke journalist

00:03:14.160 this is a woke governor general she didn't have to think twice about granting justin trudeau the

00:03:19.400 prorogation that he wanted so desperately and we'll we'll talk more about why he wants some

00:03:25.720 prorogation along with this supposed resignation over the holidays i've also had a chance to reflect

00:03:35.160 and have had long talks with my family about our future throughout the course of my career any success

00:03:42.280 i have personally achieved has been because of their support and with their encouragement

00:03:50.040 so last night over dinner i told my kids about the decision that i'm sharing with you today

00:03:58.200 i intend to resign as party leader as prime minister

00:04:03.400 after the party selects its next leader through a robust nationwide competitive process

00:04:12.520 there he will resign after the party selects

00:04:19.800 a new leader through this robust as in a great cup of coffee

00:04:27.080 process so right now who's the leader of the liberal party answer justin trudeau who's the prime

00:04:35.080 minister of canada still justin trudeau

00:04:37.320 this is but this is a bit of a semantics game he's playing here and and i will explain a little

00:04:47.160 more i have some analysis i don't think other people necessarily are even aware of anymore because

00:04:54.920 last night i asked the president of the liberal party to begin that process this country deserves a real

00:05:02.680 choice in the next election and it has become clear to me that if i'm having to fight internal battles

00:05:10.840 i cannot be the best option in that election

00:05:14.360 so what's he saying he's going to be prime minister for the g7 like like he promised he would be

00:05:26.840 he's going to be prime minister for i we don't know three to four months at least

00:05:34.920 until the liberal party selects a replacement he made it quite clear there's a but

00:05:43.160 in here will resign intend to resign plan to resign but not today

00:05:51.480 so a lot of people are getting this wrong you've got to listen to it carefully

00:05:57.400 and i've listened to it now three four times to understand the nuances of what he's saying

00:06:03.320 now most of you will probably not remember 1979 it was a groundbreaking year

00:06:12.440 joe clark became prime minister on may 22nd well actually won the election of may 22nd 1979

00:06:21.800 justin trudeau spent the summer

00:06:26.040 canoeing in northern ontario growing a long beard he came back to the house of commons in september

00:06:34.680 tried to be an opposition leader if the liberals were reduced to the official opposition

00:06:40.840 and he just couldn't take it he was the prime minister not some opposition leader

00:06:47.320 just couldn't play along just couldn't do it so i think he lasted maybe a month and a half in that

00:06:56.120 position and he announced he was going to resign he said i i can't politics is over and you know the

00:07:06.360 mclean's cover of that month it was november you know how i remember that because he he was wearing

00:07:13.640 a poppy in his camel hairs jacket i think it was a quarter of a jacket and and the headline of mclean's

00:07:19.880 said the end of an era 11 years is basically his prime minister and that was the end of an era

00:07:31.320 the joe clark government fell in december just before christmas over a gas tax they lost the support of

00:07:39.640 in those days there was a social credit party in quebec

00:07:42.200 the credit credit east and they were propping up the the joe clark minority government he needed

00:07:49.720 those six six votes he was six votes shy of a majority government in 1979 he didn't talk about

00:07:57.560 the gas tax with the so his social credit partners from quebec and they voted against the budget john

00:08:04.280 crosby was finance minister they voted against the budget the government fell the liberal party was in

00:08:11.800 chaos trudeau had just resigned or said he was going to when they selected a new leader

00:08:22.120 election was coming in february february 28th 1980

00:08:29.960 the liberals didn't know what to do

00:08:33.720 so they begged trudeau to come back there was a draft trudeau movement please come back and leave

00:08:41.480 the party because there's nobody else can do it as good as you do there's nobody else who really

00:08:46.680 wants the job and besides we need somebody right now now how is that similar to what's going on

00:08:56.440 right now in the house of commons all right trudeau's got a grace period here of what

00:09:02.120 almost well about two and a half months march 24th the house comes back after the prorogue

00:09:14.280 anytime after march 24th 24th the government could fall

00:09:19.000 and we don't even know if there's if the liberal party hasn't selected a new leader by then

00:09:23.880 and trudeau was talking about a robust process not a month long one not a two-month one probably a

00:09:30.440 four-month process that involves all kinds of candidates but what if the government falls on march 25th

00:09:40.840 when they're right when they're after they've come back what if the government falls

00:09:44.680 what happens well the liberal party looks around and says hey we need somebody right now

00:09:53.080 and well we still have a leader and justin trudeau is still the prime minister let's go with justin

00:10:00.680 that could happen again

00:10:05.800 a little bit different circumstances pierre trudeau in 1979 was the official opposition leader not the prime

00:10:12.760 minister but he won that election in february and he went on to stay in for another four years as prime minister

00:10:24.680 do you think justin trudeau was thinking about the same game plan

00:10:27.720 don't put it past him i say this all the time don't think because he's promising to go

00:10:35.240 on january 6 2025

00:10:42.040 that that means

00:10:46.920 that means he's really going to go don't believe it for a minute

00:10:53.320 and i think that's what we have to take away from this today is that justin trudeau is a slippery

00:11:01.080 character and he could do the same thing his well if you believe pierre trudeau was his pop

00:11:09.800 he could do the same thing that that pierre trudeau did in 1979

00:11:17.640 45 years ago yeah no more than that sorry my god that's about

00:11:23.000 no that's for 45 years ago and that's where we stand today with with justin trudeau i encourage

00:11:31.000 you to read my substack yesterday about proroguing and why the governor general should not have oh

00:11:37.720 we've got peer polly up here no hold it 1.00

00:11:42.680 sorry my producer rammed this down my throat here nothing has changed pierre polly agrees with me

00:11:48.440 every liberal mp and leadership contender supported everything trudeau did for nine years and now

00:11:53.480 they want to trick voters by swapping in another liberal face to keep ripping off canadians for

00:11:58.600 another four years just like justin the only way to fix what yeah so nothing has changed absolutely

00:12:09.080 nothing let's have a look at this

00:12:11.800 so what does this mean about the pro it means justin trudeau is shutting down canada's parliament

00:12:20.520 to allow a lame duck liberal government to continue to mismanage tariff negotiations and the border

00:12:26.360 security negotiations with trump they will drag this out for six months for their leadership race and so

00:12:33.080 trudeau can leave the g7 as president it's all about justin trudeau wants to be there for the g7

00:12:40.120 this full position the liberals to tell canadians we need to come together to battle the trump

00:12:44.920 administration who will have already imposed tariffs so general election is about protecting

00:12:51.240 canada from trump this is the liberal plan to retain power this is precisely what they're up to

00:12:59.800 what justin trudeau is up to he thinks

00:13:01.800 things things could change really fast yeah things are going to change really fast we're going to be

00:13:08.920 in the midst of a depression of an economic catastrophe within about three weeks

00:13:19.000 while the house is prorogued and we've got who working to fix the border

00:13:25.640 i mean dominic leblanc is now finance minister and it will probably be one of the contenders with

00:13:34.440 liberal leadership so all of these guys will be thinking they're going to be the next liberal leader and

00:13:40.360 who's going to be on the ground doing some negotiating here for canada nobody

00:13:46.840 this is exactly the way justin trude it's planned chaos if that's not an oxymoron but that's what it is

00:13:57.960 yeah here's one of our people john meester david i sent this to the governor general and promptly had my account locked

00:14:05.880 i briefly looked over the rules and couldn't find which one i'd violated took me about an hour

00:14:09.960 half an hour to get back on yeah if any anyone else out there tried this to send the governor general

00:14:16.760 a polite little note to say please think twice about proroguing parliament because this has nothing

00:14:21.880 to do with canada's national interest and everything to do with justin trudeau's interest in the liberal

00:14:26.520 party's interest well i hope that didn't happen to you but thank you for facilitating what i thought

00:14:37.000 was a noble cause because proroguing is a horrible grievous error we are going to be watching from

00:14:46.600 the sidelines as the country sinks into the abyss in the next couple of months and when it's when it

00:14:53.160 sinks into canadians heads what prorogue means most people say prorogue oh yeah didn't we do that

00:15:02.120 a couple of times before when they when it means the suspension of parliament

00:15:07.000 shutting down parliament

00:15:11.960 and there's virtually nothing we can do to bring down this government during that time

00:15:16.520 no there is nothing we can do i think there's going to be such pushback such anger from canadians

00:15:22.040 that we've never seen before i think it's going to be manifest on the streets it's going to be

00:15:26.600 manifest on the corners it's going to be manifest on public buildings people are going to be very angry 0.99

00:15:31.720 about this this was a very stupid decision on behalf of justin trudeau 0.99

00:15:41.080 it's all about delusion you think he had a wake-up call or do you think he's playing a game here 1.00

00:15:48.680 is this the latest incarnation of justin trudeau is this another act we're watching here i think so

00:15:55.320 yeah yeah i really do

00:16:02.040 let's have a look at this i find this fascinating so who what if you were mark carney what would you do

00:16:07.880 after today's oh justin's going to step aside no not right now though maybe sometime in the future

00:16:15.960 when we have a new leader when is that going to happen it's like i said yesterday this process could

00:16:25.720 take up to six months if of course this government's not brought down in the meantime let's listen to

00:16:34.920 this and joining me now is laurie turnbull our political analyst at dalhousie university laurie

00:16:40.200 thanks as always for joining us thank you so much for having me well it's looking more and i can't

00:16:44.920 say official but it's looking more and more like mark carney is indeed interested in the job right um

00:16:51.960 and as you mentioned we we've been talking about this speculating about this for a long time and

00:16:56.760 again even back to when bill morno left cabinet there was speculation then that justin trudeau was

00:17:02.520 talking to carney about potentially coming in and that creating awkwardness for morno and everything

00:17:06.920 else and so now we seem to be at a point that it's not just uh speculation that carney is making calls

00:17:13.480 he is trying to figure out um what kind of support he would have in caucus and so it's interesting

00:17:18.120 because at this point as you say trudeau still hasn't quit yet like we're not at a point of

00:17:22.840 certainty and we certainly don't know how the mechanics you know if he does resign we don't know

00:17:27.800 exactly how the party is going to get from trudeau as leader to somebody else as a leader who would

00:17:32.840 represent the party in the next point i'm making he didn't resign today either he revealed his

00:17:38.680 intention to resign once certain things happen selection but we are starting to see a bit more

00:17:45.320 certainty around who's interested in the job uh carney being one of them and it's interesting to think

00:17:50.920 about uh the people who are thinking about putting their hat into the ring for something that looks like 0.95

00:17:56.280 um is gonna be a losing project in the next election right like not to be a jerk about it but 0.88

00:18:01.400 i mean are you are you running to be prime minister are you running to be a third party leader like 0.81

00:18:05.960 what's what do you think is actually going to happen uh those who are looking at this job and some

00:18:11.240 people may see that as a challenge with carney though how much is this like michael ignatiev and how

00:18:17.720 much is it different right i mean people have made that comparison and i think uh honestly it's it's a

00:18:24.520 fair one you look at somebody who has been extremely successful and in another aspect of life right like

00:18:30.840 for ignatiev it was it was writing it was academics he was an extremely you know impressive highly

00:18:36.280 credentialed person who had had huge impact in in his life in in another field in another category

00:18:42.360 and when he tried his hand at politics it did not go well and so i think there's a perhaps a fear for

00:18:48.680 some people that carney would represent a similar type of thing that he has shown you know in how to

00:18:54.040 be incredibly successful and impressive in his life um as a banker he you know as an economist he was

00:19:00.200 the bank of canada governor the bank of england governor he's obviously an extremely impressive

00:19:04.600 person i think no he's not an extremely impressive person he's somebody who has spent his whole life

00:19:13.800 at the government trot and he's still there and he wants to stay there now i don't know what's in mark

00:19:19.720 carney's head by thinking he's going to take over the liberal party and it's going to be a miraculous

00:19:25.640 resurrection of this party it's going to rise from the ashes like a phoenix

00:19:31.880 it's going to come back from the dead if mark carney leads it this of course is utter tripe

00:19:38.600 mark carney is polling below the numbers and i had a in fact i i'm going to find a slide for you in

00:19:50.760 in a minute here when i i'll put her back on i got a slide for you that shows exactly how unpopular 0.76

00:19:58.600 the uh the would-be prime ministers would-be liberal leaders are in terms of how if they think they're

00:20:07.240 going to attract greater public support for the liberal party if they become the leader and they're

00:20:14.360 not i'll just i'll just put this is a little nauseating at times but it's interesting to see how incredibly

00:20:24.680 distorted thinking can get all you got to do is change the leader even if it's another globalist

00:20:33.480 another wef acolyte like mark carney and everything's going to be okay he comes to the table

00:20:40.280 with the kind of credentials that could be incredibly helpful at a time where we're going to have to

00:20:45.560 think about what a new economic strategy would look like given our changing relationship with the united

00:20:50.920 states because of his global networks he could be the right kind of person to interact with the

00:20:56.120 donald trump and the people around him but at the same time as far as i know he's never run for office

00:21:01.400 this is a this is a world that he would be new to and again you know does he want to come in and be

00:21:06.360 a third place party leader like really like it i mean i assume if he does this it's because he wants

00:21:11.880 to be prime minister does he want to build this project up from the ground again if the next election

00:21:16.840 doesn't go well for them well that's the thing and he's he's turning 60 this year i mean this is this

00:21:21.400 the liberals could be a what a a two-term project i mean it looks like they won't win the next election

00:21:26.760 yeah and what makes any of these people think that peer poly is going to be a one-term

00:21:34.840 prime minister the liberals don't deserve to come back anytime soon but have a look at this poll here

00:21:41.160 i found this fascinating if you can you know you read this we've got christy freeland on the far left

00:21:47.080 here mark carney next to her melanie joely uh francois champagne daniel leblanc and anita annette

00:21:58.200 as sort of the top six candidates for the liberal leadership now freeland this is this is interesting

00:22:07.640 the negatives are so high 29 said they're more less likely to support the liberal party

00:22:20.200 if she's the leader 29 19 said they're more likely that's a 10 deficit

00:22:30.040 33 said it makes no difference at all

00:22:37.640 38 said i don't know who this is look at carney 24 i said i don't know who this is

00:22:47.800 19 said it makes them more unlikely to vote liberal

00:22:53.880 and 35 okay said more likely to support

00:22:58.760 but once again he's got he's got a deficit joely is even worse i mean joely champagne leblanc and then

00:23:11.480 they're all in the basement what makes them think that they're the magic solution to justin trudeau

00:23:20.760 clearly they are not

00:23:22.040 they are not now i want to show you this i ignored watching this actually because i couldn't believe

00:23:35.080 anybody thinking can be so distorted but you know tom mulcares sometimes has some good notions some good

00:23:41.400 ideas but he's completely in the fog in this interview and if he really believes mark carney is going to make

00:23:50.360 a stunning difference to make a stunning difference to the liberal party he's crazy

00:23:55.080 but let's listen to a bit of this joining me now is tom mulcares cdb news political commentator

00:24:00.200 and former ndp leader good to see you tom

00:24:03.240 good to be with you renee so uh no official announcements yet but mark carney uh and then

00:24:10.840 let's throw in christia freeland and christie clark could all be potential contenders for 0.99

00:24:16.520 the leadership race should trudeau decide to step down how do you see this all playing out i think

00:24:22.840 you've just named the three top picks in the trifecta renee governor former governor of the

00:24:28.440 bank of canada mark carney will be the prohibitive front runner in this race one because he's extraordinarily

00:24:34.760 talented two because he's got the skill set in the area where trudeau was the weakest which is the

00:24:39.880 economy and that's why by the way the conservatives are attacking not christie freeland of course not

00:24:45.480 christie clark they're attacking mark carney uh their quebec spokesperson is out all day today

00:24:50.760 attacking mark carney saying that he's been there advising trudeau but actually the person who's been

00:24:55.240 there beside trudeau on the economy all this time of course was christia freeland carney agreed to come

00:24:59.800 on board a couple of months ago but uh he he doesn't have to bear the burden of any of trudeau's bad

00:25:05.400 decisions on the economy and canadians care a great deal about the economy you know in that famous 0.98

00:25:10.280 expression from american politics it's the economy stupid i mean you've got to understand that the 0.99

00:25:16.120 average canadian is being told that they have to tighten their belt they've watched the trudeau 0.99

00:25:20.600 government and the bureaucracy under trudeau grow exponentially with nothing to show for it they're

00:25:26.680 giving billions of dollars in contracts to private companies to do the same work so the average canadian

00:25:31.240 is saying look the liberal brand is still there trudeau is not he's not on their radar screen at all

00:25:36.200 that's what's been fueling the 20-something percent lead for the conservatives so if if carney makes

00:25:41.480 it into the race it'll be a game changer if he becomes liberal leader he gives them some hope in

00:25:46.200 the next campaign although there is that massive lead that i just referred to for the conservatives

00:25:51.080 right now uh regardless of whether it is mark carney or anybody else leading the liberal party does

00:25:56.840 anyone have what it takes to uh turn the party around well i learned that you never underestimate

00:26:05.320 the liberal party uh because with with jack in 2011 in the orange wave we became the official

00:26:10.680 opposition and everybody's saying oh they're relegated to the dustbin of history and they came roaring

00:26:15.560 back under justin trudeau who unfortunately for the liberals has stayed around just a titch too long

00:26:20.680 so i do think that it is very possible that the party that has been in power for most of confederation

00:26:26.680 can put on its game face get ready you know they have a very deep bench strength and and put on a

00:26:33.080 very strong fight in the next campaign those numbers will change rapidly renee if somebody like

00:26:37.720 mark carney were to take over the helm of the liberal party so no those numbers are not going to change

00:26:46.040 rapidly that's in entirely in tom's head when he says that we just saw this is angus reed polling i just

00:26:55.560 showed you that does not bode well for any of these characters you know after christia freeland resigned

00:27:05.000 from cabinet pure poly have went on the air in a news conference and said

00:27:12.200 when you hire a bunch of clowns you get a circus and that's exactly what this remains these are all these

00:27:22.280 people running are all non-entities or they're dangerous people like mark carney mark carney 0.61

00:27:27.800 mark carney does not deserve to be prime minister because he's been governor of the bank of canada or

00:27:32.440 governor of the bank of england or the united nations goodwill ambassador for climate change

00:27:39.240 he deserves to be sent packing for that and there is no indication in any polling i've seen that mark

00:27:49.640 carney has got some sort of magic touch with the liberal party as soon as he takes over the helm

00:27:55.560 everything is going to be brand new

00:27:59.640 but i'd say again don't think everything changed today for justin trudeau because he's still got some

00:28:07.400 cards left up his sleeve and he plays a dirty game of poker

00:28:10.760 and if you think it's all over for justin trudeau

00:28:17.320 well the way he phrased this today the way he framed his resignation reminds me a lot of what

00:28:26.600 pierre trudeau did i'll say that again it reminds me a lot of what pierre trudeau did in 1979 1980

00:28:33.160 as he managed to retain his grip on the liberal party and become prime minister one more time now

00:28:40.920 i don't know what the likelihood is of justin trudeau ever winning another federal election

00:28:48.440 but retaining power over the liberal party well that's entirely possible if he plays his cards right

00:28:57.560 in this instance and i think he could well do that

00:29:02.040 don't want to remind you about the store about the merchandise things are 15 off again today

00:29:09.960 and we have got more discussion about this coming tomorrow and we're going to examine the reaction

00:29:19.960 from peer polyev conservative leader and what the bloc kbik was saying but more importantly

00:29:29.000 what is jagmeet singh going to say today about this

00:29:34.920 i think that is worth looking at because is he going to keep hedging his bets

00:29:41.160 is he going to promise to bring down the government in march

00:29:44.200 or is it going to be wait and see we'll have we'll cross that bridge when we come to it

00:29:53.000 because clearly

00:29:55.240 jagmeet is up to something too thank you so much for watching today folks

00:29:59.480 thanks it's always a pleasure i've got so much more i want to talk to you about tomorrow

00:30:06.040 and let's continue to resolve to resist and i will be back with all the news you need to know bye for now

Stand on Guard with David Krayden - January 06, 2025

Trudeau Resigns but its NOT Over... ｜ Stand on Guard

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