Stand on Guard with David Krayden - Trudeau's Poison Pill in the Senate ｜ Stand on Guard Ep 134

00:00:00.960 Hi, happy Victoria Day. Welcome back to another episode of Stand on Guard. I'm your host,

00:00:06.240 David Creighton. I just wanted to bring you up to speed on a couple of things today, including

00:00:10.600 the poison pill that Justin Trudeau has for the conservatives.

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00:02:36.440 the, how to be gracious and how to show gratitude. And that's, that's my, my little message here for

00:02:45.400 Victoria Day. Thanks so much for watching. I want to talk about the Senate today. And I think,

00:02:52.340 you know, this is a incredibly, all I can say, it's a very, very important message right now,

00:03:02.680 because I call this the coming constitutional crisis. This is the constitutional crisis on the

00:03:07.700 horizon. And to get back to the beginning of this, we have to go all the way back to 2014,

00:03:15.440 10 years ago. This is, this is where this all really started to some expect when Justin Trudeau,

00:03:23.520 prime minister, and he wasn't prime minister at the time, but he was the liberal leader at the time.

00:03:29.940 He wasn't even the official opposition leader. He decided he was going to untether the liberal

00:03:36.780 senators from the liberal caucus, that they would no longer be known as liberal senators.

00:03:42.840 Let's have a look at the news story at the time. And it'll be interesting to see some of the players

00:03:47.340 in this. Some are long gone. Some have different roles today. And we'll point that out.

00:03:52.280 Good evening. And thanks for joining us. There's no question. It is a daring move.

00:03:56.240 Liberal leader Justin Trudeau stunned pretty well everyone, even those in his own caucus,

00:04:00.860 by declaring there is no longer any such thing as a liberal senator. He's kicked them all out of

00:04:06.600 the liberal caucus. His way, he says, of cleaning up the scandal-plagued upper house. They'll stay in

00:04:12.300 the Senate, but will sit as independents. Shirley Engel has the story of Trudeau's Senate surprise.

00:04:18.200 Shirley?

00:04:19.240 Donna, Trudeau's bombshell this morning blindsided not just liberals,

00:04:22.960 but the Senate as a whole too. It's still trying to figure out how this will all play out

00:04:28.080 and what it all means.

00:04:34.320 Strip away the spin and you'll find senators who woke up as liberals in a sudden identity crisis.

00:04:40.960 How do you feel about being called a former liberal senator?

00:04:43.380 I'm not a former liberal. I'm a liberal. And I'm a liberal senator.

00:04:46.960 Not anymore, according to liberal leader Justin Trudeau, who broke the news to a room full

00:04:52.580 of stunned senators just half an hour before he announced it to the country.

00:04:56.760 32 formerly liberal senators are now independent of the national liberal caucus. They are no longer

00:05:04.080 part of our parliamentary team. There are no more liberal senators.

00:05:09.560 It sounds like he's broken up with you and you're not accepting it.

00:05:12.680 No, not at all. Is that how this is?

00:05:15.080 I am a liberal. I remain a liberal. I belong to the liberal Senate caucus.

00:05:21.080 James Cowan remains leader of this new self-proclaimed liberal Senate caucus,

00:05:25.960 but it's unclear just how many of the 32 will stay behind him. George Baker is embracing his new

00:05:31.880 independent title.

00:05:32.840 So it's got to be depoliticized. Mr. Trudeau has taken the first step. He's to be

00:05:39.240 congratulated, and the Canadian people will say,

00:05:41.560 Hooray! And okay, Prime Minister, what are you going to do?

00:05:46.120 Aha! So you can see the initial reaction was largely positive. What a courageous thing to do.

00:05:53.480 I remember writing about this for iPolitics at the time where I was a weekly columnist.

00:06:00.280 And of course, I had some skepticism, but I didn't really see what was going to unfold here.

00:06:05.720 What Trudeau, maybe he had it in mind. Maybe he's just taken advantage of a situation as it's evolved,

00:06:12.920 as it's unfolded. I didn't see the full danger of it. I was very skeptical because

00:06:18.040 I never obviously trusted Justin Trudeau to do the right thing for any of the right reasons.

00:06:23.000 But let's listen to this some more. The Prime Minister was quick to point out how

00:06:26.360 little has changed when Trudeau challenged him to disown his 57 conservative senators.

00:06:31.880 Mr. Speaker, again, the change announced by the leader today is that unelected

00:06:36.600 liberal senators will become unelected senators who happen to be liberal.

00:06:41.480 Ridicule aside, Trudeau's populist move steals the spotlight on Senate reform from the Tories and

00:06:47.400 the NDP. For Mr. Trudeau to have suddenly realized that the NDP was right is a good thing.

00:06:53.320 Now let's go all the way. Let's hope that he understands that getting rid of the Senate

00:06:57.240 is also the right thing to do. Both the Tories and the NDP question the timing.

00:07:01.320 The Auditor General is expected to soon release a report on senators' expenses that will name names.

00:07:07.400 Today, Mr. Trudeau announced a smokescreen to distance himself from the Auditor General's report.

00:07:17.400 There he is, Piripaliev, Democratic Reform Minister.

00:07:23.240 Would you have thought at the time, 10 years ago, he was going to be poised to become the

00:07:27.560 next Prime Minister of Canada and would be opposition leader? I didn't see it, no. But it's interesting.

00:07:35.000 There he was, and he had a position like Democratic Reform. He wasn't the finance minister.

00:07:39.640 He wasn't the foreign affairs minister. He had the Democratic Reform portfolio.

00:07:43.320 And look where he's gone in a decade. And look where the Senate has gone. That's the point of

00:07:47.880 this whole exercise. Now, I recently wrote a column for my Substack, and I don't often

00:07:55.960 promote my Substack work on this channel, on Stand on Guard, Creighton's right. But I will today,

00:08:03.320 because I think this is a topic that nobody is really talking about.

00:08:06.600 The subject here is Canada, headed for constitutional crisis with its woke Senate.

00:08:14.520 Now, what do I mean by that? Well,

00:08:21.880 if you have a look at this, you can see, and I'm going to have to put my glasses on to read it.

00:08:26.120 As of May 2024, there are 96 of the 105 Senate seats filled.

00:08:38.040 Now, where are all these Senates? And this is where it gets very confusing,

00:08:43.560 because there are only 13 Conservative Party of Canada Senate seats. And as Denise Batters points

00:08:51.000 out here, she recently posted on X, there will be only 10 by the next election.

00:09:01.560 That means potentially 95 of these seats will be filled by Liberals calling themselves either

00:09:12.680 Independent Senators Group, Canadian Senators Group, Progressive Senate Group.

00:09:18.840 And that's who the remainder will be. And this has all been a grand farce.

00:09:29.320 Let me tell you, it has all been a grand farce. Because what has happened here is that while

00:09:38.440 Justin Trudeau has been Prime Minister, he's appointed 81 Senators.

00:09:42.680 Now, he doesn't call them Liberal Party of Canada Senators, but who do you think they're obliged to support?

00:09:52.680 Who do you think they are going to side with? Who do you think they owe their Senate seat to? I mean,

00:10:02.520 yes, it's rhetorical questions. Obviously, they are in deep debt to Justin Trudeau.

00:10:09.720 Now, did he see this coming? I don't know. I don't know if he saw this coming. The problem is,

00:10:15.080 now there's Stephen Harper, you saw him in that clip saying,

00:10:19.640 this is a big facade, they're going to be Liberal Senators by another name.

00:10:25.160 And that's exactly what's happened. But you know the big mistake Stephen Harper made?

00:10:29.800 He stopped appointing Conservative Senators before the end of his term as Prime Minister.

00:10:36.120 Yeah, he thought he was going to keep on going. He really did think he was going to win that next

00:10:44.280 election in 2015. And I won't get into why he lost, but he lost because his communications team

00:10:54.120 completely fumbled the football in that election campaign. He put all of the emphasis on Harper,

00:11:01.400 none at all on his key ministers, on MPs. It was Harper 24-7. But that's not the point.

00:11:09.560 Harper made a very strategic error, very big strategic error in saying, I'm not going to

00:11:14.520 appoint any more senators until the system's reformed. So while Stephen Harper was Prime

00:11:20.040 Minister, yeah, he appointed some elected senators from Alberta, people in Alberta elected people to

00:11:25.400 send to the Senate. Stephen Harper said, yeah, sure, I'll appoint them. That's fine. And he could do that

00:11:31.960 without violating the Constitution because he's still appointing them. They might be independently

00:11:37.400 elected in the province, but Stephen Harper is still making the decision to appoint them so there's

00:11:42.200 no contravention of the Constitution. Now, right now, if we want to change the Senate into an elected

00:11:50.680 body, I won't get into the abolition of the Senate. That's choice number two. I won't deal with that too

00:11:57.320 extensively. I've always been a supporter of an elected Senate, a Triple East Senate, going back to

00:12:02.600 Reform Party days. To do that, we need a constitutional amendment. And to get a constitutional amendment in

00:12:09.080 Canada, you need seven out of the 10 provinces comprising 50, over 50%, 50% plus one of the

00:12:20.440 Canadian population. And you need it approved in the House of Commons and the Senate. So the Senate

00:12:26.280 basically has to vote itself out of existence or has to vote itself to be elected.

00:12:33.240 Now, we have not even contemplated in Canada using this amending formula. And I remember when

00:12:40.600 the Constitution was repatriated, there was all of this vague talk about amending formula, amending

00:12:45.640 formula. And at the time, I really didn't consider what it actually meant. That it meant, how do we change

00:12:52.600 this Constitution in the future if we want to do so? Well, the formula they came up with was a 7 out of

00:12:59.720 10, 50% of the population and approval by the House of Commons and the Senate. Nobody wants to go into

00:13:08.440 that territory. Now, this is absolutely completely bizarre because the United States has a Constitution.

00:13:14.760 They've amended it dozens of times. They've amended it to raise the voting age. They've amended it

00:13:21.720 to have presidential term limits. They amended it twice in the space of just over a decade

00:13:29.160 to first implement and then repeal prohibition. That's called political will. When people want to do

00:13:35.720 something, they do it. The will was there to implement prohibition in 1919. The will was there

00:13:42.280 in 1932 to repeal it because they said, hey, it didn't work. We're going to repeal it. And they did

00:13:49.880 it. They amended the Constitution. They've done that time after time after time. They amended the

00:13:54.360 Constitution to elect their own senators. How come we can't do that in Canada? How come that seems so

00:14:00.920 arduous, so impossible? Well, we've got to get beyond that. But what's the poison pill that I'm

00:14:09.320 talking about? Because I really haven't addressed that. Yeah, the Senate is full of woke liberals. 0.99

00:14:17.400 And the last time I sat in the Senate to listen to debate on a farm bill, I couldn't believe how woke

00:14:25.480 some of these senators are. They're even worse than the average liberal MP. So these are the kind of

00:14:30.840 people we're dealing with. So here's the constitutional crisis. Pierre Polyev and the Conservative Party

00:14:37.080 of Canada form the next government. Probably going to happen, barring a political disaster for them.

00:14:45.320 They will be the next government of Canada in about less than a year and a half, perhaps less time,

00:14:50.440 if we can get a non-confidence vote motion, vote in the House of Commons to end the Trudeau government.

00:14:58.440 However, what happens with a new Conservative government that wants to repeal a lot of liberal

00:15:03.640 legislation, wants to repeal the carbon tax, wants to repeal censorship bills, wants to limit at least

00:15:10.600 euthanasia and perhaps repeal the whole euthanasia program? How do you think the woke Senate is going to

00:15:17.000 react to that? Great! Bring on the legislation, Mr. Polyev. New Prime Minister, we're going to pass that.

00:15:24.520 I doubt it very much. They're going to be an obdurate Senate roadblock. They're going to try to stop

00:15:33.080 every policy they disagree with. And there's going to be a logjam in the Senate that could take years.

00:15:41.720 Now, has this happened before? Usually the Senate acquiesces to the will of the elected House of

00:15:50.520 Commons because they represent, it represents, the members represent the will of the people, the

00:15:57.480 democratic will of the people. The Senate does not. It's appointed. And believe me, there are some good

00:16:08.040 senators. I remain a good friend of Senator Pamela Wallen. She's a damn good senator. She's an independent

00:16:14.440 now, but she has done wonderful work over the years. Unfortunately, there's a lot of people in the Senate 0.86

00:16:20.920 who are picking up a paycheck and massaging a travel account, an expense account, and they're having a hell of a

00:16:28.760 good time. They're living the life of Riley at public expense and really aren't fulfilling any legitimate

00:16:35.240 public role. And if they become part of the problem in the next government, I think we have to look at

00:16:43.640 ways to change the Senate, yes. But what happens in the interim? We're not going to get a constitutional

00:16:48.920 amendment in 2015. We're not going to be able to change the Senate radically in 2015. So what happens?

00:16:58.280 Has this happened before? Well, yes, it has.

00:17:02.760 1909, this guy here, David Lloyd George, he's Chancellor of the Exchequer. That's the finance

00:17:08.440 minister in Great Britain. He introduces what's called a people's budget, raises taxes on the wealthy

00:17:16.040 to pay for a very moderate welfare state, largely focusing on old age pensions and very little

00:17:30.920 else. But the reaction, the response from the House of Lords, their Senate, is to say,

00:17:39.480 not, we're not passing this. This bill will not pass. This budget will not pass. We're not going to move

00:17:46.520 on this. So they exercise what is called the Senate veto. And they say that the budget will not pass.

00:17:55.960 That spurs the government of the day, which was actually liberal under Prime Minister Asquith

00:18:04.280 and David Lloyd George, who is the finance minister, to fight back. And by 1911, they passed the Parliament

00:18:12.360 Act. What does the Parliament Act do? It eliminates the Senate's veto and says the Senate can only hold

00:18:20.040 up a bill for a maximum of two years. The Parliament Act was renewed in 1949 and amended to limit the

00:18:29.240 Senate's ability to block a bill to one year. We don't have anything like that in Canada. Because

00:18:36.200 in the past, the Senate has usually just been that sober second thought, that form of sober second

00:18:43.560 thought, and has not tried too hard, has not been drastic in its desire to quench the democratic will of

00:18:56.600 the people, to stop the House of Commons from passing legislation. I predict this is going to be a

00:19:01.800 problem in the next government, because these people are so woke, they're such left-wing ideologues,

00:19:09.240 they will do whatever they think is necessary to stop policies from being passed, legislation from being

00:19:16.760 passed, and old liberal Trudeau legacy legislation from being repealed. So this is the poison pill I'm

00:19:24.200 referring to. This is the constitutional crisis. We are going to need a Parliament Act in Canada

00:19:30.360 to tame, discipline, and control the actions of the unelected appointed Senate, or it's going to 0.99

00:19:38.680 control politics in Canada. And that's what we need to do. Now, Pierre Polyev is smiling here.

00:19:47.000 He won't be smiling when he finds out what he has to deal with, with the unelected Senate. It's going to be

00:19:58.520 a disaster. And as I said, Trudeau has appointed 81 senators since he's been in there. They obviously are

00:20:10.120 way overborn. They outnumber the conservatives by over 9 to 1 now. So this is going to be a problem,

00:20:22.840 and I think we need to start talking about it. I wanted to have Denise Batters on this show to 1.00

00:20:27.080 talk about this, Senator Denise Batters from Saskatchewan, because she's actually commented on

00:20:32.120 this by saying, hey, we're only going to have 10 senators in 2015. But her office got back to me and said,

00:20:37.960 no, Senator Batters is not interested in talking about hypothetical situations. Well, I don't buy

00:20:43.160 that. Were we willing to talk about the potential for a Second World War after Hitler walked into 0.97

00:20:50.440 Czechoslovakia in Austria? Was that hypothetical? Or was that something we had to talk about before

00:20:57.800 it actually happened? We need to talk about this constitutional crisis with the Senate now before

00:21:03.240 it actually happens? And because we need to prepare the legislation now to tame the Senate, 0.98

00:21:09.880 to make sure they don't do this to the next government, because they are going to do it.

00:21:16.520 So a little bit of a history lesson today. We're back tomorrow with Question Period Live.

00:21:23.160 It's going to be interesting to see what's going on. They're back for a month now before

00:21:28.920 they recess for the summer. We want to make sure the Online Harms Act does not see second reading.

00:21:36.440 Definitely. We want Parliament to recess before that happens. But let's have some action, please,

00:21:44.120 on this World Health Organization pandemic treaty or agreement, as it's called. Nothing's being said

00:21:52.360 about it. It will be signed in June, unless there's sufficient opposition to it. And I'm not hearing

00:21:59.320 that from the Conservatives at all. And as I said in an earlier broadcast, the one Member of Parliament

00:22:05.480 who has been fighting this, Leslyn Lewis, has apparently been told not to talk about it because

00:22:10.760 she won't talk about it on this program when I asked her office about it last week. Or actually,

00:22:16.360 it was just, yes, it was last week. So that's where we stand. I'm also interviewing Tamara Leach

00:22:23.800 of the Freedom Convoy tomorrow to find out what's happening with her and where things are going with

00:22:29.640 that trial, how she's doing financially, and the news that she's able to talk to Chris Barber in public

00:22:36.760 again or in private. Anyway, thanks for watching today, folks. I enjoyed this very much. And we're back

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Stand on Guard with David Krayden - May 20, 2024

Trudeau's Poison Pill in the Senate ｜ Stand on Guard Ep 134

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