Stand on Guard with David Krayden - What the Freedom Convoy Still Means for Canada PLUS Ostrich Farm Update

00:00:00.000 So we are in a very precarious position in this country.

00:00:04.820 We need a political change, but we also need to resolve to resist.

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00:00:33.140 But freedom is something you earn every day.

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00:00:53.980 That, of course, was the inimitable Pat King, another Convoy, Freedom Convoy supporter who

00:01:20.660 was convicted, charged, convicted, and sentenced.

00:01:24.700 And he was in the courtroom today with his lawyer.

00:01:26.940 I have to admit, I have to say that.

00:01:28.800 I had a nice chat with Pat.

00:01:30.340 We really had talked much before.

00:01:33.000 We had a nice chat.

00:01:34.460 He's been through hell and back, of course, with all of this.

00:01:36.900 But when we come back, here's my thoughts, observations, some video footage about what

00:01:42.540 happened today in the Ontario Provincial Courthouse on Elgin Street in Ottawa.

00:01:48.720 And I think it's going to be of some interest to you.

00:01:57.260 The Prime Minister lied and his minions continue to...

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00:02:13.220 But we also need a resolve to resist.

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00:02:32.600 Yeah, we'll do it live.

00:02:34.860 Hey, I know.

00:02:36.160 You say, okay, it's not funny anymore, David.

00:02:37.860 Well, I got back about four o'clock from the sentencing hearing today for Chris Barber and

00:02:46.260 Tamera Leach. 0.86

00:02:47.840 And I was trying literally to do about three or four things at once today.

00:02:52.860 I managed to get a story written while the judge was delivering her sentencing.

00:03:00.060 And this is a long-winded judge.

00:03:02.860 This is Heather Perkins McVeigh.

00:03:05.340 And she went on and on and on and got there about 10.30.

00:03:11.600 We didn't get a final sentencing for Tamera.

00:03:16.720 First of all, she read Chris's, then she read Tamera.

00:03:19.620 And it was about 1.30, 1.45 by that time.

00:03:23.180 So, you never know how these things are going to go.

00:03:29.140 The result?

00:03:31.280 18 months conditional sentencing for Chris Barber.

00:03:34.500 12 months house imprisonment.

00:03:36.800 Six months curfew.

00:03:38.420 But he's got lots of latitude and we'll see some specifics a little later.

00:03:43.320 With that house imprisonment, he can work.

00:03:46.900 He can travel.

00:03:47.720 He can go out and get essentials.

00:03:51.700 It's not like he's chained to his bed.

00:03:55.520 Tamera Leach, 15.5 months combined house arrest and curfew.

00:04:05.860 Same kind of stipulations.

00:04:07.820 Same kind of exemptions.

00:04:10.120 Tamera got less only because the judge said she had spent 74 days in custody already. 0.72

00:04:15.120 So, she took two and a half months off an 18-month sentence.

00:04:22.060 Once again, I don't think they should have been there in the first place.

00:04:25.380 I don't think there should have been a trial.

00:04:26.680 I think they should have been settled long before there was a trial.

00:04:29.100 I don't think the trial should have went on for two years and one month.

00:04:32.460 Literally, two years and one month.

00:04:34.920 I don't think they should have been the longest mischief trial in Canadian history.

00:04:38.020 I don't think they should have gotten anything except conditional discharge.

00:04:42.180 But, I understand there must have been tremendous political pressure on this judge.

00:04:46.800 I understand it could have gone a lot worse.

00:04:50.280 I understand a lot of us are hoping and praying that Chris and Tamera would not have to spend a day in jail.

00:04:56.920 And when I talked to Lawrence Greenspon, Tamera's lawyer, after, and you'll hear him say this,

00:05:02.380 his most cogent and immediate concern was that Tamera would not spend another hour in jail. 0.50

00:05:12.100 And she won't be.

00:05:13.480 Now, we still don't know if Chris Barber is going to have to surrender his truck, Big Red,

00:05:19.340 to the province of Ontario, who will destroy it.

00:05:22.080 That's called forfeiture. 1.00

00:05:23.380 It's bullshit. 0.99

00:05:24.760 Excuse my language. 0.99

00:05:26.080 But that won't be decided until probably early, mid-November.

00:05:30.220 At the earliest, this could go on and on.

00:05:34.100 But, I want to talk about what this trial meant and what the verdict meant.

00:05:40.580 But, most importantly, what this sentencing means.

00:05:42.400 Because I'm hearing a lot of people saying, you know, this is a grievous judgment.

00:05:47.360 And, to some extent, I agree.

00:05:49.020 This should not have been.

00:05:50.820 It should never have gone this far.

00:05:52.160 But, what really happened today?

00:05:54.700 How much do we celebrate?

00:05:56.580 Because, when I heard the news that Chris was just, just, yeah, I know, you say, just.

00:06:03.340 But, that Chris wasn't going to have to go to jail. 0.75

00:06:06.660 That the judge said eight years was ridiculous.

00:06:09.760 In fact, the word she used was, unfit. 0.83

00:06:14.100 And, he was basically going to be allowed to continue to live and work.

00:06:18.400 I said, thank you, God.

00:06:19.680 And, I said, thank you.

00:06:21.140 Because, so many people were hoping and praying for a reasonable, if you will, outcome.

00:06:29.740 Now, a lot of people, after this sentencing was read, said, this is outrageous.

00:06:37.040 Because, because this should never have happened.

00:06:40.260 And, don't you dare say, don't you dare rejoice that these people aren't going to jail because that should never have been on the table.

00:06:48.020 Well, I'm sorry it was.

00:06:50.640 Now, I mean, some people are saying this is a travesty.

00:06:52.680 But, I can tell you this.

00:06:55.240 I sat there for the entire sentencing.

00:06:59.440 Just like I sat there for most of the entire trial.

00:07:03.860 From day one in September, 2023.

00:07:07.600 Yeah.

00:07:08.140 Labor Day.

00:07:08.860 It was the, it was the Monday, Tuesday after Labor Day Monday in 2023.

00:07:13.800 It was a beautiful sunny day.

00:07:15.240 Like it was yesterday here in Ottawa.

00:07:19.680 Today it was overcast and torrential rain, rain, rainfall.

00:07:24.060 I don't know if, rainfall.

00:07:25.460 I don't know if that was a sign of what's to come or not.

00:07:31.900 But, I can tell you a lot of people were really feeling happy at the break.

00:07:40.320 Because there was, when the judge had left the room and there was, we were left alone with each other.

00:07:45.920 People applauded Chris as he stood up.

00:07:49.640 Because we didn't know Tamara's sentence at that point.

00:07:54.720 Because the judge divided it with another break.

00:07:58.060 But, we all knew Tamara was probably going to get the same or even less. 0.58

00:08:02.380 Because the judge had, I guess, seemed to favor Tamara a bit when she was talking about the two of them.

00:08:09.560 I always thought she seemed that Tamara was less guilty than Chris.

00:08:14.240 But, clearly, when push came to shove, she treated them both equally in the end here.

00:08:21.640 But, here's what I want to tell you.

00:08:24.680 This was a show trial from day one.

00:08:28.060 Yes, it was.

00:08:30.320 These were political prisoners.

00:08:34.600 The whole idea here was to put opponents of the liberal regime on trial.

00:08:42.620 To humiliate them.

00:08:44.820 To infuriate them. 0.98

00:08:46.880 To impoverish them.

00:08:49.400 And, ultimately, to defeat them.

00:08:52.740 That didn't work.

00:08:54.960 They're not defeated.

00:08:55.740 And, I don't think for a minute that this verdict is going to put the chill in protest that the Kearney liberal government wants it to.

00:09:07.960 Or, the Doug Ford government.

00:09:09.520 Remember, this trial was initiated by the Crown of Ontario.

00:09:14.600 This was Doug Ford's trial from day one.

00:09:17.580 Doug Ford, who was an ardent champion of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and his Emergencies Act.

00:09:25.100 This was Doug Ford's trial from day one.

00:09:26.900 So, I don't think this is going to put a chill in protest in the future.

00:09:32.680 If it does, then they've succeeded.

00:09:35.580 But, I don't think they have.

00:09:36.580 We're living in a state that is increasingly like the Soviet Union. 0.53

00:09:41.500 And, these people, Chris Barber and Tamara Leach, were political dissidents that the state was trying to punish.

00:09:51.080 Because, they didn't go along with the state narrative on COVID.

00:09:56.300 On COVID mandates.

00:09:57.680 On the vaccine. 0.96

00:09:58.620 Turns out, they were damn correct. 0.95

00:10:01.720 And, I got the jab twice.

00:10:03.340 Because, I really, in the beginning, I really did think it was probably the best thing to do.

00:10:08.480 Because, I had a mother in a nursing home. 0.89

00:10:11.100 I had a job in Parliament Hill.

00:10:13.680 I wanted to travel.

00:10:14.800 And, I said, the government wouldn't lie to me.

00:10:18.480 Not like that.

00:10:19.340 I was in the armed forces.

00:10:21.720 I trusted the government to some degree.

00:10:23.900 Even if it was the liberal government.

00:10:25.560 The government wouldn't intentionally try to harm me, would they?

00:10:30.360 Well, it turns out, they actually do.

00:10:33.780 And, this is the frightening thing about this.

00:10:36.920 But, we have to celebrate to some degree.

00:10:39.120 Because, they didn't destroy these lives.

00:10:42.100 I worked hard to keep this story, and the politics behind it, front and center.

00:10:49.320 Not only on this channel, but in the U.S. media outlets that I worked for.

00:10:57.180 And, the international outlets.

00:10:59.000 At the time, I worked for the Epoch Times.

00:11:01.440 I used to write columns about this all the time.

00:11:03.340 I wrote several columns about this for Human Events.

00:11:05.520 I wrote many, many stories for the post-millennial.

00:11:09.900 A U.S. audience saw that.

00:11:11.380 Millions of people across the border saw that.

00:11:13.740 And, they said, what the hell is wrong with Canada?

00:11:15.800 So, I think I did my part.

00:11:18.080 Lots of other people did, too.

00:11:20.500 Lots of people didn't do their part.

00:11:22.680 And, they ignored this story.

00:11:27.200 But, we have to find the sunshine of victory.

00:11:29.700 Even in the shadow of this authoritarian government.

00:11:33.020 So, that's my word of wisdom for you today.

00:11:35.860 And, I just want to show you some scenes from this today.

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00:16:03.740 Okay, we're back. Sorry about that, folks.

00:16:05.740 We had a catastrophic failure, and we're back again.

00:16:09.740 So I want to, I just want to show you this.

00:16:13.740 I guess we had to, oh, God.

00:16:19.740 What else can go wrong today?

00:16:23.740 I said thousands, if not tens of thousands, but we received letters of support from hundreds of people.

00:16:35.740 We've received messages. Tamara has received messages.

00:16:39.740 So this was one of those rare cases where I was able to say to the judge, there were some very positive things that happened as a result of this, what was found to be an offense.

00:16:51.740 And the positive is that there are a lot of people who were inspired by Tamara's example, a lot of people who were lifted up and given out by what she did.

00:17:01.740 Are you satisfied with the verdict? Are they sentencing today, sir?

00:17:05.740 Yes. The main objective was to make sure she didn't spend one more day in jail, and that was achieved.

00:17:11.740 And so, yes, in that sense, we are still very seriously considering an appeal of the conviction for mischief.

00:17:21.740 But as far as the sentence goes, we're pleased that she is not going to be spending any more time in jail.

00:17:28.740 Do you think there's a double standard with how the truckers have been treated with jailing, prosecution, enormous resources, compared to the pro-Hamas protests that once meets in Ottawa, Toronto, Montreal and elsewhere? Is there a double standard on this week?

00:17:44.740 I think that this case, on its own, demonstrates the conflict between freedom of expression and peaceful assembly, and as contrasted with some of the other protests that you're referring to.

00:18:03.740 Just in case you don't recognize this man, this is Lawrence Greenspan, who is Tamara Leach's attorney, and I spoke to him along with a throng of other reporters immediately after the sentencing.

00:18:16.740 The Palestinian protest, there's definitely a different way that those are being treated as opposed to the way that this peaceful assembly and freedom of expression was treated in this courtroom.

00:18:27.740 Lawrence, was a balance struck by the judge in this case, in terms of freedom of expression, in terms of the right to protest?

00:18:33.740 No. No. No. There was none. And in Canada, constitutionally protected freedom of speech, which encourages peaceful assembly, must prevail over the rights of property owners.

00:18:48.740 The enjoyment of property. That's not an equal balance, and that's the primary basis that we're considering for an appeal of conviction.

00:18:58.740 I don't think, by the way, that anybody had their property rights really violated. Not the way the government is violating the property rights of universal ostrich farms right now.

00:19:15.740 I think it just takes the feeling of free speech going forward. The process, of course, the ritual authenticity.

00:19:21.740 I'm concerned that going forward, individuals who advocate peaceful assembly, and that's all that Tamara did, was talk about peaceful assembly and encourage people to come to Ottawa to assemble peacefully and lawfully. That's all she did. And if that becomes, and at this point, it remains criminal. It's been found to be the offense of the

00:19:45.720 mischief of mischief. If that's allowed to stand, if that's allowed to stand, then I'm very concerned about the future of freedom of expression in this country.

00:19:52.720 Lawrence, you are appealing Ms. Luce's conviction?

00:19:55.720 We're seriously considering an appeal of the conviction for mischief.

00:19:59.720 What about the impact on the people of Ottawa? The judge also acknowledged significant impact on your impression in the city.

00:20:06.720 There was definitely, and that was something that we were prepared to admit right at the beginning of the trial, that there was an impact on the people and businesses in the core of the city of Ottawa.

00:20:16.720 Freedom of expression and peaceful assembly do not come without some price.

00:20:23.720 And in a contest between the two, peaceful assembly, freedom of expression that encourages that, should win every time. Because nowhere in the Constitution are the property rights or the enjoyment of property to be found. Freedom of expression and peaceful assembly are fundamental freedoms that are supposed to be protected by the Charter.

00:20:43.720 Were you surprised by the sentence today? Given the range, absolute discharge to seven years, there's really nothing that could surprise me. What surprised me was that in 45 years of doing this work, I've never been this far apart from the Crown in terms of a sentencing position.

00:21:04.720 The judge made comments about the Crown's position, and I'll leave you to that.

00:21:09.720 Has Ms. Leach ever expressed any type of remorse for her role in this, even though she did not advocate for bondage, but it resulted in $65 million of police costs?

00:21:21.720 You heard the portion of the letter that she wrote, and she recognized, as did Mr. Barber, that there were many people in the downtown core and businesses that were affected by the Freedom Convoy.

00:21:34.720 She doesn't deny that.

00:21:35.720 She doesn't deny that.

00:21:36.720 She doesn't deny that.

00:21:37.720 The question of, was there remorse for what she did?

00:21:40.720 No.

00:21:41.720 She pled not guilty.

00:21:42.720 She's been found guilty of mischief.

00:21:44.720 We're seriously looking at appealing that finding.

00:21:47.720 Do you think Chimera actually saved lives by getting these COVID mandates stopped?

00:21:52.720 She may have.

00:21:53.720 Certainly helped.

00:21:54.720 She may have saved lives by her advocacy. 0.99

00:21:57.720 She may have.

00:21:58.720 One thing we know is that there were many lives, many people that were inspired by her example, by what she said and how she did it.

00:22:07.720 There were lives that were changed as a result of her standing up on behalf of many thousands of Canadians, perhaps even tens of thousands of Canadians.

00:22:16.720 So, were lives saved?

00:22:17.720 I don't know.

00:22:18.720 But that may well have been.

00:22:20.720 May well have been.

00:22:21.720 I think that was the most important question I asked of Mr. Greenspawn today, which was, did Chimera Leach actually save lives?

00:22:30.720 Of course she did.

00:22:31.720 We know now how dangerous, how toxic, how untested the COVID vaccine was.

00:22:36.720 Now, it's my pleasure to welcome back to the Stand on Guard studio, Katie Pesitne.

00:22:43.720 I hope I'm finally pronouncing your last name right because I've been listening to other broadcasters.

00:22:49.720 I think I've been pronouncing your last name.

00:22:52.720 I feel terrible about that.

00:22:53.720 No, it's Pesitne.

00:22:54.720 Yeah.

00:22:55.720 You got it.

00:22:56.720 Thanks, David, very much for having me back on.

00:22:59.720 Well, you're part of this broadcast and I will be part of your fight for as long as I have to be.

00:23:06.720 Thank you.

00:23:07.720 Before we get into the latest from Universal Ostrich Farms, I just want your thoughts on what transpired today because I'm hearing it from all sectors.

00:23:18.720 I was standing next to Ezra Levant today at the incredible scrum with Lawrence Greenspawn and who else was there?

00:23:29.720 Diane Magus, who, of course, is Chris Barber's lawyer.

00:23:32.720 She was there.

00:23:33.720 I haven't seen a bigger scrum than this since my days on Parliament Hill or actually the last the last time I was I was at Parliament Hill last spring, I guess.

00:23:43.720 And it was it was incredible.

00:23:45.720 There must have been 35, 40 journalists there around the people coming out of the doors.

00:23:51.720 There were cops everywhere.

00:23:52.720 Well, you know, you know what that's about.

00:23:54.720 In fact, these are the cops who weren't invited or who weren't sent to Universal Ostrich Farms.

00:23:59.720 They came here today.

00:24:00.720 So it was quite it was quite something.

00:24:03.720 But what are your thoughts about the sentencing?

00:24:05.720 And just to recapitulate night, I texted you first with the news even before I went to my ex post.

00:24:11.720 But 12 12 months house arrest for Chris Barber plus six months curfew, 12 months house arrest for Tamara plus 5.5 months curfew.

00:24:23.720 The judge gave her essentially time off because of the time she spent custody.

00:24:28.720 What are your thoughts?

00:24:30.720 It was nice to see that, you know, justice kind of prevailed today.

00:24:37.720 I mean, they didn't deserve anything in obviously our eyes and probably our whole country's eyes.

00:24:44.720 They're two heroes and they're warriors.

00:24:47.720 And I was just elated to hear that there was going to be no actual sentencing of jail time.

00:24:54.720 And, you know, Tamara has dedicated herself to her using her voice and singing also to heal as she's been out here twice.

00:25:04.720 And she's brought magic each time with her voice and her her songs and just bringing some light to what we've all been going through here.

00:25:13.720 And in many ways, our hearts have been with them this whole time.

00:25:17.720 And I believe that it happened.

00:25:20.720 Yeah, it was just nice to see that there was justice today and in the sentencing.

00:25:25.720 Absolutely.

00:25:26.720 Yeah, I feel the same way because I heard a lot of people say, you know, we shouldn't be celebrating at all.

00:25:32.720 They didn't deserve to be there.

00:25:33.720 They shouldn't have been there.

00:25:34.720 I said, you know, they shouldn't have been there.

00:25:37.720 Yeah, they shouldn't have been there.

00:25:38.720 But these are people who have been treated like Soviet dissidents and they could have been sent away for eight years.

00:25:44.720 And I'm thankful for that.

00:25:45.720 I'm thankful.

00:25:46.720 And I'm thankful.

00:25:47.720 I think I made a difference over the last three years with promoting the story, not only in Canada, but in the United States, where people still say to me, you're kidding.

00:25:57.720 That trial's not over yet.

00:25:59.720 Yeah, it's over today after two years and a month.

00:26:02.720 So a lot of folks in the U.S. are outraged over this.

00:26:06.720 And I think that had some effect in Canada.

00:26:08.720 Are you taking any, shall we say, inspiration from this, that maybe there's saner minds are going to prevail with your situation where the government, this time the federal government, this was a provincial government case.

00:26:21.720 A lot of people forget that.

00:26:22.720 But this was the Ontario government going after Chris and Tamara.

00:26:26.720 Tamara, in your case, it's the it's the I think you call it the Canadian Animal Cruelty Agency.

00:26:32.720 Otherwise known as the Canadian Food Infection Agency.

00:26:36.720 Yeah.

00:26:38.720 And so you're fighting them. 0.71

00:26:40.720 They want to they want to kill over 300 healthy ostriches.

00:26:43.720 We all know they're healthy to see if I doesn't want to test them because they know they're healthy.

00:26:47.720 Took them days to don their costumes, their hazmat costumes.

00:26:50.720 RCMP are still walking around like there's there's no problem there.

00:26:54.720 We all know it's a joke.

00:26:56.720 They know it's they know this is a cruel joke that they're playing on the Canadian people.

00:27:00.720 And but are you looking at this today and saying, well, maybe this will be a victory week for freedom.

00:27:05.720 Maybe good news is on the horizon.

00:27:08.720 I really do keep feeling every day that there's always winds of change.

00:27:14.720 We have hope all the time that there's good men and good good men and good women and in all walks of of life and in their in their different careers or RCMP.

00:27:25.720 There's a lot of great women and men on the on the Supreme Court of Canada panel.

00:27:32.720 And this I understand from discussions I've had that the Supreme Court of Canada doesn't like to get caught up in controversial political cases.

00:27:44.720 However, this is a case that has garnered a lot of international interest.

00:27:48.720 It's garnered a lot captured the people from all around the world.

00:27:52.720 And what we're fighting for is for science.

00:27:57.720 There is science here that can better humanity.

00:27:59.720 And we're fighting not just for the science and leading, you know, technology and innovation with using our antibodies.

00:28:07.720 But we are really going after the international trade rules with the World Health Organization and the guide.

00:28:16.720 And if our farm even all tested all of our animals and they all tested negative.

00:28:23.720 They are all still set to be killed because of our World Health Organization directives that are being passed down to us here in Canada.

00:28:33.720 And that should be very alarming.

00:28:35.720 But again, I think we've been going through this now for two hundred and sixty six days.

00:28:42.720 Healthy, amazing animals.

00:28:45.720 We've been going through this for about 10 months.

00:28:48.720 And the longer that this is gone, it's got more people's attention, which is giving us more momentum and more strength to do what needs to be done in this situation.

00:28:59.720 And that is change policy.

00:29:01.720 The policy is meant to evolve.

00:29:03.720 We're not asking to break the law.

00:29:05.720 We're asking to update it.

00:29:06.720 That's pure and simple.

00:29:08.720 Science has evolved and our policies have to evolve to our science needs to hold still that special place.

00:29:17.720 And in how we, you know, how we solve these problems, we can't just pretend that all of a sudden science doesn't hold a place anymore.

00:29:27.720 But there's lots of hope.

00:29:29.720 I think people are opening up their eyes.

00:29:32.720 Canadians want to see change.

00:29:34.720 I think we are waking up to the idea, ideology that we don't have.

00:29:42.720 We have a non-elected governing body that's been acting in Canada for the last seven years.

00:29:46.720 That governing body is really making the decisions at our federal, municipal and provincial levels.

00:29:54.720 And we need to claim some of our Canadian sovereignty back.

00:29:57.720 And it should start with the policies that are destroying our farmers.

00:30:02.720 Yeah, you would like to see the CFIA formally charged with cruelty to animals, if only because of the neglect they showed towards spirit, the ostrich that passed away on the weekend.

00:30:15.720 And I think there would be tremendous support for that because these people seem to get away with this kind of behavior with complete impunity.

00:30:24.720 And they have the nerve to lie about the fact there was a pre-existing condition and nobody's taking this seriously.

00:30:31.720 You've got the goods on them.

00:30:33.720 Like, I'm not going to show that the whole five-minute video.

00:30:35.720 I've shown it on the station twice now.

00:30:37.720 You've got the goods on them.

00:30:39.720 They clearly were not giving the electrolytes to the ostrich.

00:30:42.720 They would just dump them.

00:30:44.720 You've got them.

00:30:45.720 Yeah.

00:30:46.720 Do you think you can prove that this organization is going to have to be held accountable?

00:30:51.720 I sure would hope so, David, because you have an organization that's operating with no accountability, way too much freedom and no oversight.

00:31:00.720 And then this is what happens.

00:31:02.720 So we're the perfect example, the prime example to allow a display of their inabilities to follow their own protocols, follow their own policy.

00:31:13.720 And, you know, that they're lying to Canadians about their animal, the animal welfare and the welfare of the animals in their care when they're obviously getting prepared to kill them.

00:31:25.720 So the animals are already going to suffer enough.

00:31:28.720 They're already going through traumatized moments.

00:31:31.720 They're already going through fear.

00:31:33.720 Why do we need to mishandle them, you know, in lieu of their killing?

00:31:39.720 They shouldn't have to suffer more just because.

00:31:42.720 So I do want to see them, you know, charged.

00:31:46.720 My mom and myself were charged.

00:31:49.720 They're trying to charge us.

00:31:51.720 We were arrested.

00:31:52.720 And you tell me how the criminals are really behind the other part of the police line and they're hiding behind these good men and women and badges and they're hiding like cowards in the corner of our field with animals that are not theirs.

00:32:06.720 They don't know how to care for these animals and they don't even know their job and they're hiding in the back.

00:32:10.720 They won't come to the front. 0.85

00:32:11.720 They've lied to us about administering the electrolytes to spirit who died with dehydration and due to injuries from the RCMP flying their drones low too low.

00:32:22.720 She flipped the fence.

00:32:24.720 That was her compromise.

00:32:26.720 So there was no compromised health.

00:32:28.720 She had leg injuries due to a drone incident from the RCMP last Monday.

00:32:34.720 And then she succumbed to dehydration, neglect and animal cruelty by the Canadian Food Inspection Agency, which we had to witness her dying alone, throwing her head back for her last moments of life.

00:32:47.720 And that was just wrong when we're standing 300 feet away from her and we have not been aggressive.

00:32:53.720 We're not.

00:32:54.720 We are not violent people.

00:32:56.720 All we've ever shown them is that we just want to care for the, you know, for our animals in a humane way, keeping them calm, keeping them loved until whatever transpires here.

00:33:09.720 We just want to look out for the welfare of our animals.

00:33:12.720 So we should be, it should have been allowed in there to care for her.

00:33:16.720 Um, this, we wouldn't be here with the death of spirit.

00:33:19.720 Um, she would have been cared for properly.

00:33:21.720 So I do want to see these people, uh, charged and our family does want to see these people charged because it shouldn't be one sided law.

00:33:30.720 Uh, you know, if we could get arrested and we were just trying to feed our animals, these animals have neglected and been in inhumane with our animals and they deserve the same thing.

00:33:40.720 We have enough RCMP here.

00:33:42.720 That's for sure.

00:33:43.720 Oh, no, no, no kidding.

00:33:45.720 Uh, they still hadn't bothered to look for the hate group or the, or the individuals that killed your, your ostriches though.

00:33:52.720 So, which is, which is very, very suspicious, uh, as far as I'm concerned, but wanted to ask you because I, I, we were trying to get you on the show last night, obviously when the veterinarian was on scene, finally a veterinarian.

00:34:04.720 I like the looks of this guy, he looks like he can stand up to the CFIA, but they didn't allow him to test the test of the, uh, spirit body for, for blood.

00:34:14.720 Is that right?

00:34:15.720 No, and again, right.

00:34:16.720 But David, again, that goes back to we're under international trade rules.

00:34:21.720 These animals are caught in trade politics.

00:34:25.720 So they're guilty by association of two animals that tested positive for avian influenza last year. 0.68

00:34:34.720 So because they're guilty by association, they all have to die.

00:34:38.720 And that is what we're fighting for. 0.99

00:34:40.720 They can't die.

00:34:41.720 This makes no sense.

00:34:43.720 As long as we have migratory birds flying overhead of all of our cattle, all of our swine, all of our sheep and us, we will never be avian influenza free.

00:34:53.720 So that's just a dream.

00:34:55.720 So why are we killing all these animals based off suspicion, um, based off if there's one positive test, why are we killing every animal?

00:35:05.720 It can't be a one size fits all solution and it has to be stopped.

00:35:09.720 I understand that stamping out holds a place, uh, within a large poultry commercial poultry industry, um, barns where there's 30, 40, 50,000 chickens in a barn.

00:35:22.720 And, uh, these animals, you know, if they're, if they are going through some sort of virulent threat, then, um, they, um, you know, there should be approved methods of possibly stamping that out to stop it from falling through into other barns.

00:35:38.720 I understand that, but it can't be a one size fits all solution.

00:35:42.720 We are not for food consumption.

00:35:44.720 We are not, um, international trade and we should pose no risk to international trade by being alive.

00:35:51.720 Just guilty by association of two animals that they say tested positive, uh, in December, 2024.

00:35:59.720 So was the veterinarian able to assess how many birds were still there, uh, was able to assess the overall health of the herd?

00:36:08.720 Uh, so he did an overall, yes, assessment, uh, he didn't think that he'd be allowed to go into the general public.

00:36:14.720 He went into the general public with them, uh, just for a drive around because he was looking for birds or ostriches that were in a herd pen.

00:36:24.720 And we had a, we have every farm I'm sure has a corral or an area where if somebody has, you know, a little bit of a limp or they've got as something in their hoof for their, this, in our case, a toe, um, we have our hurt pen.

00:36:39.720 We have had one half blind hurt one in there.

00:36:42.720 We had, um, one with a little bit of a limp arthritis in her knee and a broken toe. 1.00

00:36:49.720 So, well, the Canadian Food Inspection Agency pushed all those animals into the general public.

00:36:54.720 And with a pecking order and the ostriches having territory, very territorial over some of their areas, um, it puts the injured ones at risk.

00:37:04.720 I mean, they, they can't fight, they can't defend themselves.

00:37:07.720 And so they're, they are at risk, uh, Canadian Food Inspection Agency went out and pushed these animals out into the general public.

00:37:15.720 So our vet was able to go do an overall look around.

00:37:19.720 The one concerning part though, is he couldn't find any of those birds.

00:37:24.720 Uh, so we don't know what they've done with them.

00:37:27.720 Uh, he did note that there was water and he noted that there's food.

00:37:30.720 So he said over that, he's happy to see that there was food and water.

00:37:35.720 But again, in my question to him was, did you witness a feeding?

00:37:38.720 And he said, no, because when they're feeding there to feed 26, five gallon pails of food to all of these animals.

00:37:45.720 And that's what they're used to from what our eyewitness accounts have been.

00:37:50.720 And all of the images and video that pour in, they are not feeding that amount.

00:37:54.720 They are dumping the food on the ground.

00:37:56.720 They're not using their black dishes.

00:37:58.720 Um, these animals are not, they're not being cared for properly.

00:38:03.720 And, um, so he asked to do an autopsy on spirit.

00:38:08.720 They denied that as well.

00:38:10.720 They said that he, um, they did their own autopsy.

00:38:13.720 Uh, they took tissue samples, which they are not sending out because it won't make any difference.

00:38:19.720 They said, if they take an autopsy, if they, whatever the results are on that tissue, uh, even if it's nothing, it won't change the outcome of this.

00:38:29.720 So they're not going to take, um, they're not going to send the tissue samples in, which is again, why wouldn't we be looking for something else?

00:38:38.720 Why wouldn't we be looking for their, the, the violent threat if we're really concerned about it?

00:38:43.720 Why wouldn't we be doing an evaluation at this time to see where we're at?

00:38:46.720 Um, but he wasn't allowed to do that.

00:38:49.720 Uh, he wasn't able to do a head count.

00:38:51.720 No.

00:38:52.720 Um, just driving through was a very quick visit.

00:38:55.720 Um, the, he did treat Betsy. 0.98

00:38:57.720 We have a, an older hen in there.

00:38:59.720 She has arthritis in a knee.

00:39:00.720 So he treated her, but a Canadian food inspection agency said that they will not maintain that treatment because they don't have anybody to do so.

00:39:09.720 So we can spend millions of dollars to be here to kill these animals, but we can't come up with a sufficient Canadian food inspection agency vet to keep treating her. 1.00

00:39:21.720 Um, you know, it just goes to show they're just a kill machine. 0.90

00:39:24.720 Um, Canadian food inspection agency is purely a kill machine.

00:39:28.720 They don't know anything, how to protect or preserve life.

00:39:31.720 And they definitely don't know how to preserve our livelihoods of our farmers and they need to be stopped.

00:39:38.720 And you're right.

00:39:39.720 We do call them.

00:39:40.720 It's the new, it's a Canadian animal cruelty agency.

00:39:43.720 And, um, we need to, they need to be brought down.

00:39:48.720 They need to be held accountable.

00:39:50.720 Those that are here in charge need to be charged with neglect and animal cruelty and a full investigation at the very least be put into them, which they've never have.

00:40:00.720 And we need to build from the ground up a new vision, a new face, uh, somebody and, uh, an organization agency, the Canadians can start to trust.

00:40:10.720 And, um, we have put Canadians more at risk than ever with their behavior because farmers that should be phoning Canadian food inspection agency with a concern because of their decades of mishandling, uh, farmers across Canada.

00:40:27.720 Farmers aren't calling them because they're just starting to do the old shoot, shovel, shut up because of their erratic behavior.

00:40:35.720 Uh, they're, uh, they're, uh, their, um, excessive freedom of operation.

00:40:40.720 They're no accountability, no oversight.

00:40:43.720 They are the Gestapo of, you know, of, of, um, of their league.

00:40:50.720 And we have to build something from the ground up and restore that faith and, uh, trust back in Canadians so that we're back to a place of protection again.

00:40:59.720 Well, as I say, every time I talk to you, I don't know how you're, you're holding up as well as you do.

00:41:06.720 We've got so many fights going on with people who are just trying to destroy what, what, what you're doing there.

00:41:13.720 Oh, Angela, Angela Rasmussen.

00:41:16.720 Have you, have you read Angela's stuff?

00:41:18.720 Oh, boy, Angela.

00:41:20.720 We talked about Angela.

00:41:21.720 Angela is the one that has no political axe to grind. 1.00

00:41:24.720 Remember the CBC?

00:41:25.720 Uh-huh.

00:41:26.720 Uh-huh.

00:41:27.720 Who, who was it?

00:41:28.720 Hannah Mansung said, and we know, Angela, you have no political axe to grind. 1.00

00:41:32.720 Yeah.

00:41:33.720 And all you have to do is visit her X site to find out she's a vaccine cheerleader.

00:41:37.720 And she thinks David Freiheit, otherwise known as Viva Fry, is a right-wing extremist destroying the United States.

00:41:44.720 So she's not even Canadian. 0.75

00:41:47.720 I think, I think she stated that I'm like a cult leader.

00:41:51.720 So.

00:41:52.720 Yeah.

00:41:53.720 Yeah.

00:41:54.720 Yeah.

00:41:55.720 Right.

00:41:56.720 Yeah.

00:41:57.720 But, you know, I have to tell you, Katie, it was at, you know, the court, the courtroom today.

00:42:01.720 And I've never, it was literally standing room only.

00:42:05.720 And it's, I've never seen that courtroom so packed.

00:42:08.720 There were so many people there.

00:42:09.720 And of course, so many people come up to me and they say, Oh, we love your show.

00:42:12.720 And, you know, thanks for, for following to Chris and Tamara.

00:42:15.720 And I said, Oh, what else could I do?

00:42:17.720 I mean, I love these people.

00:42:18.720 And, and they said, and we just love the fact that you're covering Katie and the ostriches.

00:42:24.720 And it's like, that's the second thing they say at the trial, because everybody there is watching, not just this show, but they're watching all of the news about the ostriches.

00:42:33.720 They love you as a spokeswoman for that farm.

00:42:36.720 They think you're doing a fantastic job.

00:42:38.720 And they say, they're all saying now, this is, this is Freedom Convoy 2.0.

00:42:44.720 It's the same principles, the same issues here.

00:42:47.720 And we're going to, we're going to keep fighting back.

00:42:50.720 So you've got so many people that are supporting you.

00:42:53.720 And I hope you, I hope you feel that.

00:42:56.720 I know you do because, you know, what's going on here with these, there's another CBC hit piece out today.

00:43:02.720 Somebody shared it with me just before I went on the air.

00:43:04.720 I'll send it to you later.

00:43:06.720 I'm not putting it on this broadcast. 0.98

00:43:08.720 It's such, excuse my language, bullshit, unadulterated. 0.99

00:43:12.720 And it's the usual crap the CBC puts out when they don't want to talk about the real issue. 0.99

00:43:17.720 Just like they want to talk about these other distractions about some guy walking around with a jerry can. 0.98

00:43:24.720 And, and I'm saying, you know, that doesn't mean he's a supporter because he happens to be walking on the floor.

00:43:30.720 And that's not a craziness.

00:43:32.720 No.

00:43:33.720 You, I saw you on Redacted last night, before I forget this, because great interview, even though, you know, the technical problems at the beginning that you have no control over, and I'm sure have something to do with the government trying to, trying to write these interviews.

00:43:47.720 Yeah.

00:43:48.720 It's only their show.

00:43:49.720 Yeah.

00:43:50.720 It's only their show.

00:43:51.720 It doesn't work.

00:43:52.720 No, it's, it's, it's, it's incredible, but great interview.

00:43:56.720 You raised a real bombshell in your literally your last two paragraphs, what you were talking about, about the CFIA again, and their connection to the CO2 carbon dioxide manufacturers.

00:44:10.720 And, and you, you, you said that they've, they are benefiting from the production of this toxic gas to kit that that's killing birds, killing animals.

00:44:18.720 And I found that just, just incredible.

00:44:21.720 But to me, it's, well, what do you expect?

00:44:25.720 Why else would they be so invested in the killing of these animals?

00:44:30.720 Follow the money, as you know, Jesse Ventura used to say.

00:44:34.720 Yeah.

00:44:35.720 So then we have that Hendrix genetics turkeys in the Netherlands.

00:44:39.720 And the only exemption that's been given for avian influenza was by chance a farm, but it's a turkey farm, Hendrix genetics turkey farm.

00:44:54.720 And they are in, they have connections with the Canadian food inspection agency.

00:45:00.720 They have their, they're partially funded.

00:45:02.720 So, you know, they're, they grant their own exemptions when they think that it seems fit, that it's going to benefit their, their pockets.

00:45:10.720 And we're seeing Canadian farmers just like us suffer though, because, you know, we don't, we don't have to follow, they don't have to follow the same rules with us.

00:45:20.720 Um, so yeah, it's been pretty alarming to go down the rabbit hole too, to see just where, um, all these companies are affiliated and where exactly Canadian food inspection agency falls in there.

00:45:32.720 But, um, I'm sure that's going to be some dark, dark rabbit holes that are going to take a lot of flashlights to get out of.

00:45:38.720 So, well, I, I really believe that the PR has been so bad and I've talked behind the scenes with people who are equally concerned about the bad PR and they're on the government side.

00:45:52.720 And I, I really think you're going to have a happy conclusion to this.

00:45:57.720 And I'm not just saying that to make you feel better or because we had some relatively good news today.

00:46:02.720 I think the tides have, have shifted in your favor if they were ever not in your favor, but a lot of people in this country immediately say, well, if the government wouldn't lie to us.

00:46:14.720 Wouldn't lie to us.

00:46:15.720 Well, they, yeah, they do lie to us.

00:46:17.720 Yeah.

00:46:18.720 Chronically.

00:46:19.720 And yes, they, they have intentionally injured us.

00:46:22.720 And as a, as a former military person, I found that very hard to believe.

00:46:26.720 I trusted the government to look after me, to send me overseas, look after me in combat zones and to be there, whether it was liberal or conservative.

00:46:35.720 And now I'm, I'm sorry.

00:46:37.720 I just can't buy into that trust anymore.

00:46:39.720 After, after COVID I, I took my, my red pill going from somebody who was very trustful of government, even though I was never really enthusiastic about too much government.

00:46:49.720 I thought they wouldn't hurt us.

00:46:51.720 They wouldn't harm us.

00:46:52.720 I think what you have demonstrated with the Canadian food inspection agency is just that this is the naked face of government aggression.

00:47:01.720 This is the naked face of a ravenous federal government that will do whatever the hell it thinks it, it can get away with.

00:47:09.720 And this is why I am so invested in this, not just because I care for you at the farm and these ostriches, but I care about how the government thinks it can take my rights away.

00:47:20.720 Yeah.

00:47:21.720 Just like it thinks it can take yours away with absolutely no impunity.

00:47:25.720 I think you're going to win this Katie.

00:47:27.720 I really do.

00:47:28.720 Yeah.

00:47:29.720 I appreciate that.

00:47:31.720 It is very, it's very unnerving to think based off suspicion that they can come in and kill everything that you own.

00:47:38.720 It is unnerving to think that they can come in and take over your property and all of a sudden seize your animals and then tell you that you can't care for them anymore and then neglect them and have, and then treat them inhumanely.

00:47:49.720 And you're supposed to be.

00:47:50.720 And you're supposed to still just sit on this other side of this police tape.

00:47:53.720 That's a crime scene really because they're committing crimes behind it.

00:47:57.720 And it's a crime scene and we're watching it all unfold.

00:48:01.720 Well, the farmers are the ones getting arrested and the Canadian food inspection agency is the one that's allowed to commit the crimes.

00:48:08.720 So, um, I just, uh, really do see that there is a tide that is turning.

00:48:14.720 Um, no organization should ever be given this much power with anything that has this much excessive power.

00:48:23.720 You, you know, comes, um, comes mishandling and it's, um, Oh, sorry.

00:48:32.720 I seen a comment.

00:48:33.720 There's something about a petition.

00:48:34.720 I don't read them.

00:48:35.720 Um, okay.

00:48:37.720 So there's a petition parliamentary petition.

00:48:40.720 Um, people can sign and that would be fantastic.

00:48:42.720 There's a lot of petitions out there.

00:48:44.720 We really need our MPs in Canada to rise up.

00:48:47.720 We need as many MPs as possible to start the discussion and table this, um, take this to the table.

00:48:55.720 And we need to change this policy, the policy.

00:48:58.720 That's it.

00:48:59.720 We are not setting a dangerous precedent.

00:49:02.720 There's a dangerous precedent that is set when we teach our children and our grandchildren that antibodies don't exist and natural immunity doesn't exist.

00:49:09.720 There is no dangerous precedent in changing a policy that has stopped working for Canadian people.

00:49:14.720 And that is, that's where we're at.

00:49:17.720 This policy is not law.

00:49:18.720 It's meant to evolve and we need to just tweak it, care about it, show that it can protect Canadians.

00:49:25.720 And then look at restructuring, um, an agency.

00:49:28.720 Like I said, that should have different divisions, um, should be agricultural division, fishes, fish and wildlife, uh, division.

00:49:35.720 They shouldn't have all, all and all control of all the divisions.

00:49:39.720 It doesn't make sense.

00:49:40.720 Um, and it's really hard for them, I'm sure to keep track of.

00:49:44.720 And so, um, yeah, I just, I foresee, I foresee a good outcome too.

00:49:50.720 Um, how can we not, I just hope that it doesn't end, um, in the worst way possible.

00:49:57.720 And that's with our animals lives murdered because they just didn't want to make the change before the, you know, before, um, before the inevitable.

00:50:07.720 And, um, well, no, it's not inevitable.

00:50:10.720 We're stopping it.

00:50:11.720 Um, but yeah, I want to, yeah, we're going to stop it.

00:50:15.720 We're going to stop it.

00:50:16.720 And these animals deserve their to live.

00:50:19.720 Uh, a miracle is going to happen every day.

00:50:21.720 I say it's miracle Monday.

00:50:22.720 It's miracle Tuesday.

00:50:23.720 And today's miracle Tuesday.

00:50:25.720 So we're going to call in more miracles and, uh, God is good.

00:50:29.720 And he's got us this far.

00:50:30.720 And we're going to keep praying.

00:50:31.720 And we're going to keep asking all of you to keep praying with us too, please.

00:50:35.720 Well, we are, and I encourage everybody.

00:50:38.720 I know, I know, uh, my whole church is praying for you every day.

00:50:42.720 And, uh, every Sunday we say, we say a prayer.

00:50:46.720 And I heard that today from so many people at the courtroom.

00:50:49.720 I said, you know, our church is praying our, our group of people is praying for you.

00:50:53.720 And we really, really want to see a positive outcome here.

00:50:57.720 And I, and as I say, I think you're going to see that.

00:50:59.720 So thanks for coming on again to Katie.

00:51:02.720 I know you must, you must be so exhausted.

00:51:05.720 I don't know how you do it.

00:51:06.720 Cause you're up early and you're up late.

00:51:08.720 And, uh, I just, I just thank you for, for continuing to, to do these things that you need

00:51:14.720 to do to, to get the message out.

00:51:16.720 And I don't know if you, if you have a background in PR or public affairs, uh, but you're doing

00:51:24.720 this better than most of the people I worked with in, as a military public affairs officer

00:51:30.720 for 12 years, you're doing an excellent job because this is not easy work.

00:51:37.720 When you're dealing with a hostile mainstream media.

00:51:40.720 I sometimes face that in the military.

00:51:42.720 There were, there were segments of the mainstream media that hated military people.

00:51:46.720 They just hated the military.

00:51:47.720 And it was my job to say, here's who we really are here.

00:51:51.720 Here, here, here are the people who save lives.

00:51:53.720 Here are the search and rescue people who are saving lives.

00:51:56.720 Maybe somebody you knew, maybe they'll save one of your family members.

00:52:00.720 But I think that's, that's what you've managed to do is you never come across as hostile

00:52:06.720 to the hostile forces.

00:52:08.720 You're just saying you need to understand what this farm is all about, what we're all about.

00:52:13.720 And that message is working so effectively.

00:52:17.720 And I heard that from people today.

00:52:19.720 It's just saying it's, it's the way she delivers the, the, the thoughts and the words and the

00:52:26.720 messages that she's delivering.

00:52:27.720 It's the way she does it.

00:52:28.720 And people are just saying, yeah, you know, this just doesn't make sense to kill these birds.

00:52:34.720 I think they're lying to us and it's just coming through.

00:52:37.720 So keep up the good work.

00:52:39.720 I'll continue to do whatever I can.

00:52:43.720 And thank you.

00:52:44.720 Let's, let's, let's talk again tomorrow because I want to know if anything happens there.

00:52:49.720 And I, you know, I, and I'm still saying I would, I would love to come out and I had

00:52:55.720 to be here this week for this trial today, but I would still, I said, I still would love

00:52:59.720 to come out and there's so many good people out there with you right now.

00:53:03.720 And I just, I'm so thankful you're not doing this alone.

00:53:07.720 You've got such support.

00:53:09.720 Oh, we are too.

00:53:10.720 We are too.

00:53:11.720 You know, and, and I take my hat off to the media that have been there, like Viva Fry,

00:53:18.720 Rebel News, Ezra was there.

00:53:20.720 Ezra is an old friend of mine.

00:53:22.720 And I know Ezra is personally very, very concerned about this.

00:53:25.720 He sees it as another freedom convoy.

00:53:27.720 And that's why he's, he sent Drea there to do the good work she's doing.

00:53:32.720 And he's covering this as, as he covers everything that he's very interested in well

00:53:37.720 and comprehensively.

00:53:38.720 So you're in good hands with all the folks there.

00:53:41.720 And I'll, I'll continue to lend whatever support and whatever journalism expertise I

00:53:47.720 have, I can, it's at your disposal.

00:53:49.720 I want you to know that.

00:53:50.720 Thank you.

00:53:51.720 I appreciate it.

00:53:52.720 Thanks for having an amazing platform and doing amazing work for the community,

00:53:56.720 for all the people bringing really great, big topics to the surface.

00:54:00.720 And yeah, I really appreciate you here.

00:54:03.720 So thank you very much for all that you do.

00:54:05.720 Well, I'm on redacted tomorrow.

00:54:07.720 I was supposed to be on today to talk about the freedom convoy, but Clayton, we're just,

00:54:11.720 we're just totally, totally overwhelmed.

00:54:14.720 Let's do it tomorrow.

00:54:15.720 So I will be talking anything I can get in about, about the farm and about the ostriches.

00:54:21.720 I'll add that to the freedom convoy.

00:54:23.720 So let's talk again tomorrow.

00:54:25.720 Have a, have a great evening.

00:54:26.720 Sounds good.

00:54:27.720 And I'm, I feel almost exhausted tonight as you probably are every day.

00:54:33.720 It's been a long day for me too.

00:54:35.720 So have a fantastic evening.

00:54:38.720 Hey, God bless.

00:54:39.720 Thank you.

00:54:40.720 Okay.

00:54:41.720 Talk to you soon.

00:54:42.720 Bye.

00:54:43.720 That was Katie Passadne, spokeswoman for the Universal Ostrich Farms.

00:54:48.720 I just want to show you one last thing here because we lost a couple of minutes, of course, when we were.

00:54:56.720 Here's, here's a look at how things, how things look today.

00:55:02.720 Look at, look at that scrum.

00:55:04.720 That's the scrum.

00:55:05.720 It's a lady.

00:55:06.720 It's so beautiful.

00:55:08.720 Yeah.

00:55:09.720 Isn't that incredible?

00:55:11.720 That is the scrum there.

00:55:13.720 And, a lot of you know Howard.

00:55:22.720 He was out there holding signs up all day long.

00:55:27.720 The guy's, the guy's incredible.

00:55:29.720 And, you know, he was there doing everything he needed to do.

00:55:34.720 And, I take my hat off to Howard.

00:55:36.720 He's, he's really quite something.

00:55:39.720 And, I think, yeah, here we go.

00:55:42.720 This is Diane Magus, who is Chris Barber's lawyer.

00:55:47.720 And, this, you know, as she gets through the crowd. 0.98

00:55:50.720 But, once again, huge amount of people here.

00:55:53.720 And, I want to show you one more here.

00:56:01.720 We've got, now here's Chris and, that's my old stock shot of Chris and Tamara.

00:56:12.720 That's in the summer.

00:56:13.720 We used that today on the post-millennial story.

00:56:16.720 And, if I can find that for you, I will.

00:56:19.720 I'm sorry here.

00:56:20.720 I'm, I'm literally having to put these files back in.

00:56:24.720 Because, we had that catastrophic failure of the internet.

00:56:29.720 Which, I have no idea why that happened.

00:56:31.720 But, hey, it seems to happen all the time when Katie's on.

00:56:36.720 So, let's, I mean when Katie's on Redacted, they're always having problems like this.

00:56:42.720 So, yeah.

00:56:45.720 No jail time after judge gives conditional.

00:56:48.720 That's the story.

00:56:49.720 I managed to get in five minutes, folks, after the sentencing was heard.

00:56:57.720 So, and I got one more here.

00:57:01.720 And, this is, this is interesting.

00:57:04.720 Because, when the judge was talking today about Chris Barber, it's quite interesting.

00:57:12.720 She, this is the story I wrote after the last sentencing hearing.

00:57:16.720 The judge didn't know at that time that Chris Barber had had his bank account frozen.

00:57:22.720 And that thousands of other Canadians had.

00:57:24.720 So, today she mentioned it three times.

00:57:27.720 Now, I'm not kidding.

00:57:28.720 She mentioned it three times today when she was talking about it.

00:57:32.720 So, very, very interesting.

00:57:34.720 Thank you, everybody, for watching today.

00:57:37.720 It's been a long day.

00:57:39.720 I'll be back again tomorrow.

00:57:40.720 And thank you for your support.

00:57:43.720 And we're going to continue to fight this fight.

00:57:46.720 And, by the way, there was a, at the end of the day today, when Tamara came out, you might see this on X.

00:57:53.720 And there is, she came out with at least one bodyguard, two other people. 0.98

00:58:00.720 And she was just trying to get from the door of the courthouse to her car.

00:58:03.720 And a lot of people were just literally blocking the way.

00:58:07.720 And almost like they felt that she owed them a comment or she owed them a statement.

00:58:14.720 And I know Tamara just wanted to get the hell out of there. 1.00

00:58:17.720 And, of course, when she's been threatened by people, she doesn't know if that throng of so-called supporters are really supporters.

00:58:27.720 Or if there's, maybe there's an Antifa person in the midst.

00:58:30.720 Maybe there's some madman in the midst of that throng.

00:58:33.720 She doesn't know that. 0.94

00:58:35.720 They look threatening.

00:58:36.720 So, it was unfortunate that some people tried almost to block her access to the car.

00:58:43.720 And, you know, the police had to sort of get involved.

00:58:46.720 But that should never happen.

00:58:48.720 Because I imagine she just wanted to get out of there.

00:58:52.720 It's been two years and a month of this trial.

00:58:55.720 She's had it enough.

00:58:57.720 Thanks for watching.

00:58:58.720 I'll be back again tomorrow.

00:59:00.720 God bless all of you and Godspeed.

00:59:02.720 Bye for now.

Stand on Guard with David Krayden - October 08, 2025

What the Freedom Convoy Still Means for Canada PLUS Ostrich Farm Update

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