Justin Trudeau is under increasing pressure from within his own party and from his own caucus. Some Liberal MPs are mounting a new effort to oust him, and others are mounting an effort to force him to step down as Prime Minister.
00:00:00.460Welcome back to another episode of Stand on Guard. I'm your host David Creighton. Welcome to Saturday, October 12th, 2024.
00:00:11.060Hey, the world hasn't blown itself up yet. Justin Trudeau, of course, spent the week globetrotting, burning up fossil fuels like he always says he doesn't want you to do.
00:00:21.680Trying to avoid those conservatives and their paralyzing parliament. But he should have been watching out for his own MPs because they've got the knives out when we come back a bit.
00:00:35.960So we are in a very precarious position in this country. We need political change, but we also need to resolve to resist.
00:00:51.680Yeah, so Sasha always demonstrates, please like this show right now. It really does help us get over that bubble, that bump imposed by YouTube.
00:01:08.260You can believe it, last night, like a show that's four days old, they decided was limited monetization because advertisers might not like you suggesting the Trudeau's in trouble.
00:01:19.880Excuse me? How many stations out there do nothing but advertise Trudeau in trouble and just constantly, constantly are about him being berated by protesters and being called names.
00:01:36.000And I'm being, you know, I'm being told I'm being held to account because I say Trudeau is in trouble with his caucus and he silenced.
00:01:45.900It really got them mad. I said he silenced Pierre Polyev because Polyev had the audacity to suggest Melanie Jolie, our foreign affairs minister, was somehow playing both sides of the street when it came to the Middle East because of her constituency.
00:02:05.800She had to get the votes from both sides. And she admitted that.
00:02:10.980And so they kicked Polyev over that. Anyway, I got in trouble over that. I couldn't believe it.
00:02:16.300So I have challenged it. We'll see what happens.
00:02:21.200So what's happening with Justin Trudeau? Yes, apparently, you know, when the Toronto Star publishes something, not your usual rabble rousers.
00:02:29.800This is El Theorat, who, of course, is very close to the Liberals.
00:02:35.200The Toronto Star is always very close to the Liberal Party and to the any Liberal Prime Minister.
00:02:41.060They always endorse Liberal Prime Ministers.
00:02:44.840In fact, I don't think there's been a single time I might be wrong.
00:02:48.440There might be one exception where the Toronto Star did not endorse a Liberal, the Liberal Party and its leader during a federal election.
00:02:56.260But I'd be very surprised if I was wrong.
00:03:00.480Something is nagging me saying they did it once anyway.
00:03:03.560But here's an opinion of these saying that, yeah, there's discontent in the ranks.
00:03:12.140Oh, I found this to be even more interesting.
00:03:14.660The CBC, some Liberal MPs are mounting a new effort to oust Justin Trudeau.
00:03:21.220Now, I'm going to read briefly from this article because it's quite...
00:03:24.260Pressure is building on the Prime Minister in his office as a growing number of anxious Liberal MPs are coordinating efforts to force Justin Trudeau to step down as Liberal Party leader.
00:03:39.320Disgruntled Liberal MPs held a series of meetings to discuss a path forward for the party since the surprising Toronto St. Paul's by-election loss in June.
00:03:49.060These talks accelerated with Parliament's return and the Montreal by-election loss.
00:03:54.900If you recall, we reported on that one.
00:03:58.120That was David Lamenti's old writing, the former Justice Minister that went to the block of all things.
00:04:03.300They escalated further this week with the Prime Minister and his Chief of Staff, Katie Telford, out of the country for a summit in Asia.
00:04:12.640Yeah, he was in Laos, believe it or not.
00:04:16.000You know, I was just watching Dr. Strangelove last night, the great Stanley Kubrick black comedy.
00:04:23.160And I have to confess, that's a movie I could never watch when I was in the military because I thought it was just some left-wing film that was anti-military.
00:04:33.460And I realize now that it's more about the military-industrial complex and the lunatics who will stop at nothing to have a nuclear war.
00:04:40.580And they're more powerful today than they were in 1964 when that movie was released because we're on the verge of a nuclear war with Israel and the surrounding area, the Middle East, and we're on the verge of a nuclear war in Ukraine.
00:04:55.180It could literally ignite any day if the right set of circumstances happened, just like in June 1914, June 28, 1914, when the Archduke Ferdinand was assassinated by Serbian terrorists.
00:05:10.580That was just the right set of circumstances that ignited the First World War, as it was called then, the Great War.
00:05:18.620Nobody thought there'd be a second one, let alone a third, but we're on the verge of that.
00:05:25.040But I never cease to say we've got to be worried about that possibility because our political leaders are completely oblivious to the threat of nuclear war right now.
00:05:41.060They seem to think that when the Cold War ended, about 30 years ago now, that possibility of nuclear war went out the window with it.
00:05:50.320But it's actually a greater threat today.
00:05:53.280And these idiots like Trudeau and Biden and Kamala Harris, did I say it right?
00:05:58.980They are bringing us closer to nuclear war than we ever were in the 1960s.
00:06:09.680This was established by a group of scientists, objective scientists, to gauge how close we were to nuclear war.
00:06:18.420Now, I think they are objective because they had it pretty close during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
00:06:22.840They've got it even closer now in 2024, October 2024.
00:06:27.680It's closer to midnight than it's ever been because they can see it because they're not trying to package world affairs in a political wrapping.
00:06:40.700And that's what Justin Trudeau is doing.
00:06:42.300So anyway, I'll read a bit more of this.
00:06:57.560The document isn't a letter to be circulated.
00:07:00.200Sources described it as a vehicle to secure a commitment from MPs to seek a leadership change and to bind the MPs to that goal if the prime ministers and his supporters push back.
00:07:13.480So, Trudeau has no desire to leave right now.
00:07:17.440MPs were pulled into meetings across Parliament Hill this week to sign on to the demand for a change at the top.
00:07:22.360So this is what Trudeau is coming home to.
00:07:25.840This is what Trudeau is coming back to Canada for.
00:07:29.380Multiple sources, I think it's multiple sources, told CBC News that MPs have been signing a single document that is being tightly controlled.
00:07:38.120No photos or copies of it are being circulated.
00:07:42.220It's pretty hard in this day and age if somebody's not going to whip out their phone surreptitiously and grab a shot of that.
00:07:51.540All the sources, these multiple sources, spoke to CBC News on the condition that they not be named due to the sensitivity of the internal discussions.
00:08:00.220When you have the knives out, it's very sensitive, yes.
00:08:03.680These sources said at least 20 MPs have signed the document so far with others voicing their support for the cause,
00:08:09.500wondering if they're going to get politically slaughtered in the process or not.
00:08:13.740One MP who signed the document told CBC News that the number of MPs signing the signature has spilled onto a second page.
00:08:22.900So, they've got two pages going here now.
00:11:41.560Because it's clear they really don't give a damn.
00:11:43.800Now, I want to move on to misinformation here.
00:11:46.120Because one of the best things that could happen.
00:11:51.640If Justin Trudeau wakes up on Sunday morning and says, hey, you know, this is going to get worse for me unless I do something really drastic here.
00:13:28.280But I've been mentioning it every time I mention prorogation.
00:13:32.360Because the worst piece of legislation in front of the House of Commons right now is Bill C-63, the Online Harms Act, which the conservative party has not only partially embraced because they say they're going to come up with their own version of it, which is stupidity.
00:13:52.860We don't need any new versions of Bill C-63.
00:13:57.520We need it destroyed, annihilated, eviscerated, gone.
00:14:31.820But that's not the worst thing about it.
00:14:33.980Governments spend money like water anyway.
00:14:37.080They just continue to print money and they they just will spend money.
00:14:41.780The real problem here is this bill is about taking your freedom of speech away and and making a thought crime possible in Canada.
00:14:50.800This is a huge step towards dictatorship.
00:14:55.540Some of the worst bills in the world have been passed without the thought crimes component, you know, and this Attorney General Verrani, this idiot who keeps getting on his feet in the House of Commons and saying, you know, this is about protecting children.
00:15:07.360His bald spot keeps getting larger, if you notice, because of that old Samoan proverb about he who takes away free speech will lose his hair.
00:15:44.320That will kill that bill, along with another a lot of other foolish bills that might never have a chance to be born anew because we will have a conservative government.
00:15:54.140And I cannot see Polly of actually going through his C-63 if he forms a government and the bill dies.
00:16:02.960I'm having grave difficulty believing he will repeal the bill.
00:16:09.320Because it's very difficult to repeal bills once they become law, because then you're targeted as, oh, you you don't want to protect children from pornography.
00:17:51.480But you mentioned in the criminal code, there was no distinction between or no identification of disinformation or misinformation in the criminal code.
00:18:01.980What's the equivalent in the criminal code that police agencies would use for the spreading of lies, et cetera?
00:18:09.480Is it would it be considered mischief in the criminal code or what would you use to apply that?
00:18:47.560Those are the definitions you stated earlier and what we've heard in previous testimony.
00:18:51.760The biggest difference with Bill C-70 is that if a campaign of disinformation with the purpose to affect government processes, it may become criminal.
00:19:34.400So I think it may be something for the committee to, as the member alluded, to see if there's value in defining them.
00:19:46.660But for police services, we're dealing with harassment, we're dealing with intimidation, threats.
00:19:55.080So this disinformation, if somebody goes through this, but at some point he crosses the path and there's a threat, then all of a sudden, you know, we investigate the threats.
00:20:04.980But not necessarily the lying, as you called it, that it used to be called, because oftentimes it may not be a crime.
00:20:12.560Well, that's nice to know it's still not a crime.
00:20:15.820But of course, that's what Bill C-63 is all about, to make it a crime.
00:20:20.380And it amazes me how the Conservatives are on the same page as the Liberals with this.
00:20:24.740They're starting from the premise that misinformation, disinformation is a really bad thing, and we have to outlaw it.
00:20:32.660And they know damn well who is defining misinformation, disinformation.
00:20:38.600But they're thinking, oh, it'll be okay when we're the government, because we won't do that.
00:21:06.120Have you reviewed all of your coverage of Mr. Polyev, or will it be incumbent on Conservatives to have to go through and review historically the disinformation that CTV has perpetrated on Canadians?
00:21:19.900Or is that something that CTV is going to proactively do?
00:21:25.360Because I can assure you, sir, that going forward, we know that we now need to do this, not just for ourselves, but for Canadians, because certainly the trust has been broken.
00:21:36.000I want to give Mr. Grayson a chance to answer that, Mr. Barrett.
00:21:41.340I disagree with the characterization that we are engaged in a campaign of disinformation with respect to Canadians.
00:21:48.400It's our job to present all sides of public policy issues in a balanced, accurate, and fair way, so Canadians can make informed decisions on them.
00:21:56.380That's what we do consistently on a daily basis.
00:21:59.600This particular issue that happened on September the 22nd was a very rare and unique occurrence.
00:22:05.520Well, I'd be interested to know how you verified that it was rare if you didn't go back and review all of the other instances of coverage.
00:22:13.660Yeah, so, this is interesting because CTV actually was guilty of disinformation, but when it actually literally tampered with a recording of peer polio, that's a good example of real disinformation.
00:22:30.080Now, should people be going to jail for that?
00:22:31.780No, no, they shouldn't be going to jail for that.
00:22:35.200I mean, this is, we don't need to criminalize speech.
00:22:37.540We need to discipline, but we don't need to criminalize speech.
00:22:42.260And I think what happened here, what Polio did, by exposing CTV, did a hell of a lot more than putting them before some kangaroo court and having them indicted on human rights offenses.
00:23:16.000He's also, he was Joe Biden's climate czar.
00:23:19.600This is the guy who globetrotts on his private jet, burning up fossil fuels, creating a huge carbon footprint, lands and has the hypocrisy to say,
00:23:31.100you guys have better to start doing different.
00:23:33.420We better get serious about this climate change stuff.
00:23:35.840Yeah, he's not serious about anything except lining his pockets.
00:23:40.260I think the dislike of and anguish over social media is just growing and growing and growing.
00:23:49.620And it's part of our problem, particularly in democracies, in terms of building consensus around any issue.
00:23:59.500You can't, you know, you know, there's no, the referees we used to have to determine what's a fact and what isn't a fact that kind of, you know, been eviscerated to a certain degree.
00:24:10.540And people go and that people self-select where they go for their news or for their information.
00:24:17.400And then you just get into a vicious cycle.
00:24:19.340So it's really, really hard, much harder to build consensus today than at any time in the 45, 50 years I've been involved in this.
00:24:28.140And, you know, there's a lot of discussion now about how you curb those entities in order to guarantee that you're going to have, you know, some accountability on facts, etc.
00:24:40.260But look, if people go to only one source and the source they go to is sick.
00:24:46.660I mean, here's John Kerry and Justin Trudeau is about to say exactly the same thing.
00:24:52.140Oh, for those days when you didn't have the option of going to social media, when you had to take the word of the three networks,
00:25:01.560when you only had a couple of national newspapers, when you had your daily newspaper in your city, you had your local newspaper, and there was no variety.
00:25:48.600What you need, what we need, is to win the ground, win the right to govern by hopefully having, you know, winning enough votes that you're free to be able to implement change.
00:26:03.280That's the big trick and a really, really tricky question right now.
00:26:07.000Because there is out there a deliberate undermining of mainstream media.
00:26:16.900There are the social media drivers who are trying to do everything they can to keep people in their little filter bubbles, to prevent people from actually agreeing on a common set of facts the way.
00:26:29.220But he wants us all to agree on a common set of facts as decided by Justin Trudeau and the Liberal Party.
00:26:35.640That's the common set of facts he's talking about here.
00:26:38.080You know, the CBC and CTV, when they were our only sources of news, you know, used to, used to, and global, used to project across the country at least a common understanding of things.
00:26:49.600Any government that chooses to step up and say, well, this is the mainstream view, will, if we're not careful, actually compromise those organizations as being mouthpieces for, you know, a mainstream view that people on the fringes are.
00:28:23.200But in the meantime, we have to protect ourselves because what Justin Trudeau is trying to do is to annihilate freedom of speech on the Internet.
00:28:31.160He wants to he wants to completely eviscerate our our freedom of speech on social media to say what we want.
00:28:39.100And by the way, buy one of these T-shirts and advertise your right to free speech.
00:28:46.420I am a Canadian, a free Canadian, free to speak as I please.
00:28:51.560That's the preamble to the 1962 Bill of Rights when all Canadians, regardless of their political affiliation, believed in freedom of speech.
00:29:01.840That was not an outrageous or a or a controversial comment to make in 1962.
00:29:08.380It is today because Justin Trudeau doesn't believe you have freedom of speech.
00:29:12.700He wants you to believe and think and say exactly as he tells you to.
00:29:31.200I always say that you and for being there for this station.
00:29:34.480We will be back again tomorrow with all the news you need to know and the information that you need to resolve to resist this Trudeau government.