Stand on Guard with David Krayden - Why Bill C-293 Could Change YOUR Dinner Plate： Interview w Cdn Farmer Vicki Dutton

00:00:00.000 welcome back to another episode of stand on guard i'm your host david creighton we hope to have some

00:00:05.900 more discussion on bill c 293 this morning i have a farmer vicki dutton who should be joining me

00:00:11.680 momentarily i apologize for the delay in the broadcast this morning we're yes she's here

00:00:17.700 she's in the wings waiting and we'll have we'll join vicki momentarily and this is going to be a

00:00:24.660 fascinating discussion i can i can guarantee you folks that we've got so much to talk about

00:00:29.840 with this bill this is the trudeau vegan bill it's going to turn canada into a meatless nation

00:00:35.340 and when we come back we'll talk to we'll talk to vicki about her farming why this bill got so far

00:00:42.820 and what she thinks it means for canada so we'll be right right back

00:00:49.620 so we are in a very precarious position in this country

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00:01:51.420 be joined momentarily here by vicki dutton from saskatchewan and let us let us go there now i think

00:01:58.020 vicki is here good morning vicki good morning thank you so much for for joining us on creighton's right

00:02:05.140 thank you for covering this well i know you've been raising the flag for this for quite a while and

00:02:11.740 unfortunately not enough people have been and that's what it comes down to you david it hasn't

00:02:18.500 actually been that long because this bill has kind of been you know unreally discussed by canadians

00:02:25.080 which is actually one of the shocking things about this bill because it's so huge and affects

00:02:30.300 everything we do and yet it's under the radar and that is probably the biggest problem we have with

00:02:35.020 this bill well that that would that that would certainly seem to be the case we because this seemed

00:02:43.300 to go from nowhere to third reading and it passed now it's before the senate and i can't see much hope

00:02:50.700 in the senate to be quite honest because this senators are not elected they don't respond very well to

00:02:56.620 public complaints they don't listen to the public why should they they're not accountable they can do

00:03:01.720 whatever the heck they want they're there until 75 or when they decide they've had enough

00:03:05.920 of freeloading and i i know there are some good senators and we're going to be watching briefly with

00:03:10.900 one of those good senators a very close friend from the old days when i worked in the hill senator

00:03:16.260 pamela wallen who seems to be concerned about this bill and but unfortunately i don't know if you've

00:03:22.660 watched the senate lately vicky but it i went there recently to watch some of the activity around the

00:03:28.820 carbon tax and it's been subdivided now into five little groups and you say they're they're calling

00:03:36.560 themselves what who who are these people but it turns out okay there's not really a liberal party

00:03:43.020 group of senators anymore but there's a bunch of woke party groups of senators and their allegiance is not

00:03:49.740 necessarily to the liberal party of canada as it used to be but it's the justin trudeau so so when he

00:03:55.740 said okay i'm going to sever the links between the government and and the and the senate in terms of the

00:04:02.640 the liberal party in the senate they're independent he said from now on it was a farce because he's

00:04:08.420 continuing to appoint people who think the way he does who want the same policies so he can call them

00:04:14.560 independent all he wants but they're not they're they're working for the same things justin trudeau is

00:04:19.640 and i don't see these people moving on on bill c 293 and of course uh go ahead you certainly touched a

00:04:28.380 nerve for me i mean i was a proponent of the triple e senate for many years and i lobbied for that and

00:04:33.660 still cannot understand why people will accept uh in a bicameral system an uncountable type of process

00:04:40.640 as this and um this is probably going to be the most huge test of sober second thought which doesn't

00:04:49.160 happen in our senate which is very sad given the rural nature of our country well that's very true and i just

00:04:57.120 put this slide up here this is uh sylvain charlebois of course who is the mona's a food professor

00:05:04.080 and he's been actually doing quite a bit of work on this and i i referenced his column the other day

00:05:10.820 where he wrote in the toronto sun that bill c 293 it's a question for him but it's more of a

00:05:19.580 statement if you read the column bill c 293 is canada's vegan act and of course if you if you read

00:05:25.340 through the bill which i i did the other day and like like i say this was not a bill i'm well

00:05:30.660 acquainted with i've been focused on the online harms act which of course is just as odious and

00:05:36.700 just as dangerous and that's coming down the pike but sylvain outlines three things in his column here

00:05:42.620 you see and it's right in the bill and it's under section l and two three and four points and it says

00:05:50.960 this bill is going to regulate commercial activities that can contribute contribute to pandemic risk

00:05:55.520 including industrial animal animal agriculture there it is regulate that's a weasel word it can mean

00:06:03.020 anything the government wants number three another weasel word promote commercial activities that can

00:06:10.280 help reduce pandemic risk including the production of alternative proteins read vegan foods read non-meat

00:06:20.080 meat read meatless wednesday meatless meatless wheat meatless february number four phase out commercial

00:06:27.940 activities that disproportionately contribute to pandemic risk including activities that involve high

00:06:33.500 risk species once again this is aimed at stopping people from eating meat and sylvain charlebois outlines

00:06:41.740 this and i think thank god somebody has been out there in the media doing this and of course he outlines

00:06:47.940 them here in this post and i didn't read this column or see this this post that he did on x prior to

00:06:59.200 looking through the synopsis of the bill and i underlined the same portions of this bill because

00:07:05.000 they've leapt off the page at me i've been reading bills for most of my adult life now i sat on various

00:07:13.620 committees when i worked in the house of commons they can be incredibly boring you can sit there

00:07:18.180 for two or three hours and wonder how how to stay awake but you get in the habit of looking for the

00:07:24.060 guts of a bill and i saw this immediately i said this bill is dangerous because it's vague

00:07:29.580 and it's giving powers unprecedented powers and there's the bill right there c293 it's giving

00:07:36.560 unprecedented powers to regulatory agencies and it creates another as we call them czars this is

00:07:44.400 creating as like a food czar that is going to go around and shut down meatpacking plants farms

00:07:50.940 potentially stockades anything because the powers are that vague and i think this is this is absolutely

00:07:59.300 frightening and excellent substack article that you forwarded to me a closer look at bill c293

00:08:08.000 pandemic prevention or government overreach and i and i think this is this is absolutely uh frightening but

00:08:16.040 i guess the the question for me uh for you i've i've been acquainted with the agriculture industry for

00:08:23.760 years because of family that's been involved with it and i've always said you've got so many groups out

00:08:32.120 there who are all trying to lobby the government on behalf of farmers and at the agricultural sector

00:08:39.540 you've got groups that are specifically focused on grains on on on the cattle industry on on beef itself on

00:08:50.700 on canola very widespread interest out there in agricultural groups uh not just the canadian

00:09:00.660 agriculture federation agriculture that's just the beginning i mean there's the subgroups that

00:09:05.060 that target specific elements of farming all these groups are out there people are getting extremely well

00:09:11.760 paid to lobby the government and and supposedly to write news releases and to write columns that are

00:09:19.420 supposed to be fighting for farmers i didn't see a single bit of activity on over this bill from any

00:09:26.080 of these farm groups where where were they vicky i'm speechless it is certainly touching on a nerve

00:09:34.380 first of all i'd like to reference the fact that you have said something very pregnant is that

00:09:38.500 farming is very removed from the power structures of ottawa and in this bill we will be even more farther

00:09:44.420 removed the question is what happened to the farm groups apparently the farm groups were reassured

00:09:49.660 by the liberal caucus that this was not going anywhere it was private members bill and suddenly

00:09:54.440 they all voted for it three times and then it ended up in the senate so perhaps um the uh associations

00:10:01.080 were given some false hope on this but it is you know there's things that really concern me

00:10:06.520 they're talking about a multi-sectoral multi-disciplinary collateral one health approach

00:10:12.180 and i'm reading this which includes human animal plant and ecosystems um who decides who decides this

00:10:21.000 collaborative committee that's over ottawa over you know elected representatives including premiers

00:10:27.140 they're going to train the members i'm not that trainable so i'm sure i won't be on this committee

00:10:32.680 so the question is who is thinking about this who is going to be making sure that the canadian

00:10:39.620 uh welfare is going to be kept in line this has a very international approach it's a who approach

00:10:47.120 and indeed where do canadians sit on this and indeed the extended question is where does

00:10:53.480 rural farmers and rural people sit we are so removed from decision-making powers

00:10:59.980 well that's that's that is so true and that's exactly the way the trudeau government wants it because

00:11:08.080 i don't know if there's any real understanding of agriculture from justin trudeau or his ag minister

00:11:15.220 for that matter they've always put non-entities in agriculture people who really have no understanding

00:11:20.680 of it beyond the basic assumption that's probably something canada needs but the very fact that trudeau

00:11:27.920 would institute a carbon tax and somehow and i and i don't want i don't want this to be a conversation

00:11:33.580 about the carbon tax because we could go on all day but for trudeau not to realize that the carbon

00:11:38.420 tax was going to have a potentially catastrophic effect on farmers and he apparently doesn't because

00:11:45.540 he still winds off all of the talking points every time polyev or anybody else gets up in the house of

00:11:52.100 commons and says farmers are suffering as a result of your carbon tax you're paying hundreds of thousand

00:11:55.940 dollars in taxes they can't afford to heat their barns they can't afford to do their business

00:12:01.040 and the trudeau response is well they're getting more money back in their pockets from the carbon

00:12:05.720 rebate than they're ever going to be spending on the carbon it's all nonsense of course but he just

00:12:10.540 doesn't get it and doesn't seem to care that farming is indispensable to canadians it's not just some

00:12:18.660 hobby it's it's not something that we could live without i mean it's one of those things i would say

00:12:25.440 it's just as important if not more important than having a national defense because you can't have a

00:12:30.140 country without security can't have a country if you can't defend yourself we can't have people

00:12:34.400 living in a country they can't feed themselves and and as i've spoken to jerry ritz a number of times

00:12:40.220 in this show the former ag minister who now of course can speak his mind in entirety because he's

00:12:45.660 no longer in politics and he's just he's so outraged at how the trudeau government just doesn't

00:12:51.960 understand and doesn't care whether farmers live or die the regulations the fact that they're they're

00:12:57.880 telling them don't use any fertilizer doesn't matter if it has an impact on your crop so what

00:13:02.600 this is about climate change isn't it not about feeding canadians canada will no longer be able

00:13:07.600 to feed the world that we've already probably gone past that milestone but we won't even be able to

00:13:13.540 feed ourselves if this continues and i think this is another nail in the coffin just the complete

00:13:19.020 the complete ignorance that this government shows towards ag and i would say the complete absolute

00:13:25.880 attitude of of of almost despisal and hatred that they have for farmers i don't think that's an

00:13:33.800 overstatement they just don't seem to think farmers are important and this bill to me is everything i

00:13:38.640 mean i'm furious with this trudeau government for wanting to take away my free speech with bill c63 the

00:13:44.420 online harms that but i'm furious with the government for wanting to take away my t-bone steaks because

00:13:48.700 it's one of the last joys in life i have and they're not going to do that to me they're not

00:13:55.220 going to do that to me and i when i saw this bill i just said what next from this government now we

00:14:01.900 can't even have our steaks our ribs our chickens or over whatever this is all going to be taken away

00:14:08.440 by this government and i think there needs to be an accounting here from the people who should have

00:14:15.340 spoken out about about this bill but didn't so so one of the things you have to realize that the

00:14:20.600 whole framework of this uh climate agenda is a zero meat agenda it's very well documented in the c40

00:14:27.920 that they want people to consume zero meat and that's the intention to move into printed meat and bugs

00:14:34.800 so what we're dealing with here is an industry that is very fragile agriculture is a high capital

00:14:42.200 low profit business and we need interdependent demand from all of the sectors and most of them

00:14:49.320 include poultry beef dairy pork um what do we do with we want to have ethanol we want to have biodiesel

00:14:58.780 we want to have healthy proteins well all the byproduct of those proteins gets fed as cellulose

00:15:05.900 predominantly to beef and certainly as waste products to the rest of the uh meat industry

00:15:12.620 so it's a very interdependent industry so you start pulling out winners and losers from here that someone

00:15:19.500 in the high echelons of the who in the zero zero zero point one percent who believe scientific evidence

00:15:27.540 which isn't collaborated that beef is bad for the climate which is essentially where this comes from

00:15:35.440 as far as my mind they're trying to destroy the agriculture so then they can have printed meat

00:15:40.500 factories and basically bugs so i guess the question for canadians is is this bill something

00:15:47.700 that has been properly debated so canadians can have a say on it do canadians realize the impact

00:15:53.940 of this above auto op approach and the one health approach which includes a whole ecosystem

00:16:01.220 of what is good for the world and where do we have a say on this as canadians and that's the big

00:16:07.380 question and certainly farmers in this mix are very very vulnerable because it directly attacks

00:16:13.940 our industry and the fragileness of our independence on beef and other commodities as grain producers for

00:16:21.320 example as oil seed producers and yes protein is made out of pulses but guess what i can only grow

00:16:26.980 pulses on my farm one in eight years so i actually need cereals and oil seeds to complement and to grow

00:16:33.100 cereals and oil seeds i need the byproducts to have a market and that is animal protein

00:16:39.040 you know i'm sure there's a lot of people out there and probably not my viewers but a lot of

00:16:45.080 canadians who assume farmers are just rich people they've got all that land and and and all they have

00:16:51.260 to do is just produce that crop every year and everything's fine and that of course shows as you've just

00:16:56.480 said tremendous ignorance about what is involved in farming this is a high risk business it is

00:17:02.080 business yes and i think that's what canadians need to understand that we can't be playing games

00:17:08.840 with farmers this way with their livelihood and of course if you look at economic catastrophes in the

00:17:14.940 past including the great depression who was affected most adversely and most quickly were farmers

00:17:20.900 farmers were how many thousands of farmers had just had to sell their land or foreclosed upon because

00:17:26.900 they couldn't produce crops there was economic disaster and they were at the very center of it

00:17:32.140 so this idea that there's farmers are somehow insulated from from economic disaster economic decline

00:17:38.080 is of course a complete falsehood and what what i found interesting you know vicky as i looked in

00:17:44.720 into private members bills i'm focused on one that's very high profile c63 well high profile if

00:17:51.940 you're interested in free speech if you're not people don't even know what's out there unfortunately

00:17:55.660 but at least it's a government bill and the government has owned it and the government says

00:18:00.420 this is where we want to go we want censor your speech we're very proud of it that's what the

00:18:04.620 government trudeau government's all about it's it's a censorship government other issues though that

00:18:09.280 they're hiding and i and the c293 is a prime example of that this is a private members bill

00:18:15.860 from a vegan member of parliament a backbench mp who nobody even has probably heard of

00:18:22.600 but he's introducing this bill very quietly then it went one two three readings gone into the senate

00:18:28.700 nobody noticed it but as i speak of course there's another there's a couple of other uh bills before

00:18:34.700 this one came up in april i believe it's charlie angus the ndp member who's retiring but he's he's

00:18:42.440 left behind he's leaving behind this legislation and if parliament doesn't fold and and call and if we

00:18:50.480 don't have an early election before october 2015 this bill will certainly come up for vote and this

00:18:56.140 is his private members bill will make it a crime to promote fossil fuels in canada and of course just

00:19:01.820 like just like farmers the left the hard left the woke socialists hate the oil industry and they

00:19:09.100 really are convinced these people pose an existential threat to canada that they're they're producing

00:19:14.200 horrible degrees of climate change phenomena and we have to get we have to get rid of them so this bill

00:19:19.380 literally makes it a crime to put a bumper sticker on your car that says i love alberta oil this is

00:19:24.680 insanity but of course this is the kind of insanity the liberal caucus will vote for and certainly the

00:19:30.880 ndp will vote for this and that's all they need to get this bill passed third reading and end of the

00:19:35.480 senate once again where the woke senate will just love this as a climate change bill and they're going

00:19:41.480 to they're going to stamp the yes on this one another one coming up just talked about this week

00:19:46.580 another ndp private members bill and the trudeau announced in northwest territories this week that

00:19:52.740 he's going to have a real good look at this bill because it sounds good and this is about

00:19:56.920 criminalizing any sort of so-called denial of the residential school system so does that mean

00:20:03.820 if somebody says well you know there it wasn't exactly like the narrative we've been told by the

00:20:09.420 liberals or the graveyard that was discovered turned out to be a hoax oh criminalization that's

00:20:14.520 that's hate speech forget it you're going to go to jail for that this is what this bill is going to

00:20:18.820 target another private members bill so this is what this government's doing it's hiding some of

00:20:23.740 it's more extreme legislation behind private members bills and pretending hey we don't have

00:20:28.280 anything to do with this folks it's a private members bill and how did that get past third reading in

00:20:32.660 the end of the senate so i think we're looking at a very very dangerous time here and this is why

00:20:38.680 i amongst a lot of people on youtube who who are concerned we're going to lose our right to free

00:20:45.340 speech because of the online harms bill are also conserving a lose our right to eat meat we're going to lose

00:20:50.460 a right to criticize history in canada we're going to lose our right to say oil and gas is an integral

00:20:58.060 part of the canadian economy and we probably couldn't survive without it people would be starving in

00:21:02.600 alberta they wouldn't have jobs on the oil rigs they would be doing janitorial jobs instead like the

00:21:08.200 liberal government actually admitted in a private briefing note so all of there's a tide coming

00:21:14.740 against us and we're racing against time right now to get rid of this crudo government before they can

00:21:23.740 pass a dearth or excuse me a a preponderance of bad legislation that's that's coming down the pike

00:21:32.460 and c-293 i think is one of the worst if you can put it that way and what what's your what's your

00:21:40.620 feelings on this bill passing uh well the senate obviously is is is a rubber stamp um i'm gonna

00:21:50.780 rephrase i tried to push it with me shake a cord for an equal elected effective senate as a bicameral

00:21:56.680 balance many of these bills would fail under the scrutiny of of a senate that equally represented

00:22:03.180 the members of the federation and wasn't appointed as a lapdog so indeed uh i think this bill is coming

00:22:10.520 through i think canadians need to be fully aware of what it intends everybody should read this and

00:22:17.140 fully understand the clauses it is not open accountable transparent it's above that it's

00:22:23.040 power structure it changes it it internalizes or basically legislates international one health

00:22:30.740 approach um saskatchewan had very different approach to covid than many other provinces much

00:22:37.300 more open because we're a rural province that would not be possible in the future i would doubt so

00:22:43.520 people need to consider that this bill is beyond everything else but many of the tools that have

00:22:49.720 been given to them in c11 c18 c63 to basically censor opinion will be repeated in this bill there is a

00:22:58.820 communication clause that says we will determine the dialogue it's right in there um we're going to

00:23:05.820 be able to be able to control the information and we're tracking people with this bill it was done

00:23:11.020 illegally during covid this will now make it legal so a lot of issues here and i think the biggest

00:23:18.440 point that i i appreciated was silver charler bra was when he said how did this come through without

00:23:25.300 people knowing about it how did mainstream media not say to canadians this is a game changer for you

00:23:32.380 i mean private media is now doing an awesome job of bringing this forward thank you very very much

00:23:37.580 but this needs to be a debate on national television where do canadians see the control of the future

00:23:44.100 for human animal plant and ecosystems and the welfare of canadians do we trust our elected

00:23:50.820 representatives do we want an open accountable transparent system restored um what do we want

00:23:58.580 to do where do we want to go this is a game changer well it certainly is is a game changer and also

00:24:06.040 indicative of the contempt this government has for average canadians let's have a clip here with sylvain

00:24:11.620 charlebois and pamela wallen which i think is quite quite interesting professor here this week we talk

00:24:17.500 about bill c 293 say what bill c 293 you've never heard of it but that bill could change our entire

00:24:27.380 food sector there's a piece of legislation coming from the house of private members bill actually

00:24:33.000 that has land in the senate bill c 293 uh measures to regulate commercial practices uh to try and

00:24:42.820 minimize pandemic rest risks this is how it's being proposed uh we're getting a ton of mail in here

00:24:50.660 about this what do you know and what do you think about this there's there's something i don't

00:24:56.860 understand about this bill what what's what's the what's the strategic intent here i mean what's what's

00:25:04.200 the spirit behind this bill what what are we trying to accomplish here are we trying to pick winners and

00:25:10.420 losers is that what we're trying to achieve is it about real risks or is it about perceptual risks

00:25:17.040 uh is it about perhaps enticing canadians to eat differently i'm i'm honestly senator i'm at when

00:25:23.580 when i read the bill and i read the bill two days ago i'm i'm very very confused i have no idea what

00:25:31.700 this bill is trying to accomplish to be honest we're getting so many you know uh comments from

00:25:36.460 the public saying what what are we trying to do here control you know the the pandemic responses when

00:25:43.700 it comes to animals as well you know vaccines that there's a lot of activity around on that too

00:25:49.900 and that that would then you know um you could make a case to people they shouldn't be eating as much

00:25:57.420 uh meat they should be using other product like there's lots of questions that people have about

00:26:03.540 this so there's something going off in your brain as well i i think the fact that it went through the

00:26:09.120 house points to the fact that the house itself is is currently a mess i mean there's no paying

00:26:14.840 attention i don't i don't see this any other way to be honest senator i'm quite concerned i mean we

00:26:21.620 have a dysfunctional parliament so if if parliament falls and there's an election coming up i don't think

00:26:27.700 canadians are going to lose no matter what the outcome of the election is yeah i i do think that

00:26:32.200 perhaps we need to do a control all delete on the on the on the house i i love the way he concludes

00:26:39.580 there a control alt delete because or hit the escape button we need to get out of this somehow

00:26:48.200 it's become insurmountable if this government continues to exist unfortunately there was another

00:26:55.080 non-confidence vote yesterday that was defeated the bloc is appearing to move away

00:27:00.640 from their support for the government by october 29th i'm still predicting a november election i think

00:27:07.840 that's still possible because the ndp is looking at the polls and they're actually moving past the

00:27:14.640 liberals which i think would give them some inclination to move towards an election god willing

00:27:21.720 because if they don't there is as i said so much bad legislation coming down that's imminent

00:27:28.340 imminent imminent in the next couple of months so i think we need an election and as sylvan says there

00:27:34.840 hit the control alt delete button i can't see any other way out of this at this at this time can you

00:27:42.460 well so we have to realize the faith and elections in western canada is less confident here is that

00:27:51.900 we're going to be represented in ottawa as farmers for sure um certainly we've always fared better

00:27:57.500 under a capital understanding government which recognizes the international boundaries of our

00:28:03.800 business and and doesn't cause trade wars like with china who is our major client um so but

00:28:10.600 i'm going to go to my base point we need a bicameral balance triple e senate sorry i mean it's probably

00:28:17.460 never going to happen but unless we can send bills that are ridiculous to a senate as a sober house of

00:28:23.600 second thought and they say would canadians like that not would this party like that is this good

00:28:29.920 for canada we're going to continue to see these bills from that we would most of us would think how did

00:28:38.960 that get through most of us do passing and becoming law in canada and bill c 293 is the one that

00:28:46.360 which should make us shake our heads and will if it's implemented for many years now we do have to

00:28:51.480 hope that we have a government change and this gets rescinded the question is will the liberal senate let

00:28:57.440 it go whether will they let it be gotten rid of i don't know how much power will they take

00:29:02.300 the senate has never taken power but what if it did well post liberal you you anticipated my my final

00:29:11.760 remarks here because i i am i'm meaning to talk to uh senator wallin about about this issue because

00:29:19.260 nobody else wants to talk to me about in the senate including conservative uh senators but what happens

00:29:24.800 when we have a conservative government in the future and we will uh there's going to be a pure

00:29:30.520 quality of government by 2025 assuming elections aren't canceled in canada and i don't put i don't take

00:29:38.160 that off the agenda with jasmine trudeau nobody does but assuming yeah but assuming we have an election

00:29:44.040 either an early one in november or a spring one or we wait till october 2025 and we have an election i

00:29:51.300 think it's a fair statement to make the pure quality will be the next prime minister and the conservative

00:29:56.520 party will form the next government however as a lot of people aren't aren't considering what happens

00:30:02.360 to conservative bills when they reach the senate because the senate is a morass as i said of

00:30:07.980 woke ideology it's composed of a bunch of completely left-wing ideologically woke senators

00:30:15.620 who are going to be unalterably opposed to conservative legislation everything that comes up

00:30:23.240 from the house is going to be stopped i think this is going to lead to a constitutional crisis

00:30:28.920 that we've never seen in canada because the senate has always behaved properly

00:30:33.120 and we always sort of had a a polite understanding that the senate really was that's that that institution

00:30:40.760 of sober second thought of sir johnny mcdonald described it and that it wasn't there to be

00:30:46.280 obdurate to to obstruct legislation from the democratically elected house it didn't see itself

00:30:52.120 as the real power that's going to stop this legislation from destroying canada because they think

00:31:00.040 pure poly of he's like he's he's canada's donald trump he's going to destroy the country he's going

00:31:05.320 to come he's going to destroy the climate change legislation he's going to destroy all the good

00:31:10.300 things justin trudeau did and they will justify obstructing conservative legislation on that basis

00:31:16.820 that they're saving canada just like the democrats love to do in the united states and i think this is the

00:31:22.780 real danger that's coming from the senate in the future is that they could be an absolute source of

00:31:28.720 contention stopping conservative legislation and this happened in the great britain at the turn of

00:31:34.240 the 20th century when the house of lords refused to pass legislation that enlarged the the the rights of

00:31:44.720 voters that actually increased the tax rate amongst the very rich the house of lords refused to pass that

00:31:52.760 and there was a constitutional crisis in in britain over this same issue over 120 years ago so i can see the same

00:32:01.340 thing happening in canada here where we're going to have to do something with the senate and i'm i've been a triple e

00:32:06.860 advocate my whole life i was with the reform party in those days and i was completely behind that concept because i didn't

00:32:15.720 think it was going to get this bad where we have a senate that is just so out of touch with reality

00:32:21.780 but it has gotten that bad and i don't see any alternative but start electing these people

00:32:26.300 so they are accountable because they're accountable to nobody now except justin trudeau and as i joked

00:32:32.640 the other day if you look back at other countries where politicians or people were accountable to

00:32:39.480 the leader you can find that in other european countries in the 1930s and i can't say it on

00:32:46.580 on youtube but at the risk of being demonetized but it's very frightening how these senators have

00:32:55.380 a personal allegiance to justin trudeau and and even after he's gone they're going to have an

00:33:02.040 allegiance to woke politics and i think this is this does not spell a bright future for canadian

00:33:08.180 politics in the future so i'll leave the last words to you vicky anything you'd like to sum up well

00:33:12.600 i would just like to urge everyone to look at this bill and to realize how it changes our changes canada

00:33:19.580 and how we govern um i would urge everyone to write their senate to write a personal letter i would urge

00:33:26.220 them to contact every ndp mp and ask them why they're supporting this i would urge them to recognize

00:33:32.800 that many of the things we value as canadians which is freedom of speech uh freedom of

00:33:38.100 business freedom of movement is subject in this bill bill this is a decline this is a moment in

00:33:47.500 time when you need to pay attention and hopefully the senators if they do receive enough mail and

00:33:54.700 enough sober thought from people they will recognize that this bill is not in the in the for the health

00:34:01.460 of canada uh far from it well i think on that note we'll we'll leave it there please if you're listening

00:34:09.760 if you're watching today get the word out there is a chance always a chance as long as there's life

00:34:16.120 of getting the senators to see reason on this getting the senators to realize this is just contrary to good

00:34:23.500 common sense getting the senators to realize that this is not going to do anything to enhance their

00:34:29.420 climate change agenda that this is just foolishness this is absolute foolishness and it's going to

00:34:35.100 potentially eradicate not just an industry in canada but the personal enjoyment of millions of

00:34:43.900 canadians and it's just this represents a government's out of control and private members bills that are out

00:34:50.500 of control so thank you so much for joining me today vicky i think this goes a long way this is our second

00:34:56.900 show in a couple of days now on bill c293 we're going to continue to get the word out continue to

00:35:02.360 fight for farmers continue to fight against this bill as long as we can and once again thank you for

00:35:08.060 being a part of the episode today thank you and and we will we will stay in touch and please continue

00:35:14.440 to notify us of issues and concerns that we need to know about here thank you and one last word support

00:35:20.700 private media always support private media thank you yes thank you so much do as vicky says and we'll

00:35:28.520 thank you for joining us today on stand on guard we'll be back again with another show tomorrow

00:35:32.480 with all the news that you need to know so you can continue to resolve to resist and bye for now

00:35:38.340 bye-bye

Stand on Guard with David Krayden - October 11, 2024

Why Bill C-293 Could Change YOUR Dinner Plate： Interview w Cdn Farmer Vicki Dutton｜ Stand on Guard

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