Stand on Guard with David Krayden - September 13, 2025


You'll Never Guess Who Wants Alberta to Separate! | Stand on Guard


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53 minutes

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166.13712

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8,924

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26

Misogynist Sentences

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00:00:00.000 hey happy saturday it's david creighton here from stand on guard broadcasting to you live as i do
00:00:07.800 every day from ottawa when we come back we'll talk a bit about what happened yesterday some
00:00:14.840 the latest from pier polio and my guest today is jeffrey rath of the alberta prosperity project
00:00:22.120 he's got some very very surprising news for us and we'll be back in mere moments thank you for
00:00:27.720 watching the prime minister lied and his minions continue to your home is your castle we're calling
00:00:38.960 on the government to introduce and immediately pass the stand on guard law so we also need to resolve
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00:01:40.460 even if it's by word of mouth and every time i go out to an event somebody always comes up and says
00:01:46.540 hi david we love your show even when i go to a local store you know people are constantly coming up and
00:01:52.600 saying we love your show and it's it's heartening because sometimes you wonder with all this impression
00:01:56.740 that people are watching and i realize they are so i want to talk a bit about yesterday and if you
00:02:02.620 haven't watched yesterday's broadcast please do it had a big thumb on it actually it looked like
00:02:09.280 somebody was sitting on it this was i was the first person out there with the news about what
00:02:14.940 happened to the universal ostrich farm federal court of appeal has denied the farm's request
00:02:22.860 for their case to be heard by the supreme court this is devastating and of course i was all set to do
00:02:31.020 a broadcast last night when i came home from the courtroom and i'll get into that for a second i got this
00:02:36.820 text message an email from katie passing passing at the farm saying we just got word and so
00:02:44.300 it really really refocused me on on this tragedy i have no other way of explaining it but but what's
00:02:51.880 the what i have to say is that yesterday it was sort of a weird combination
00:02:57.620 of two events that ordinarily might have nothing in common but because of the liberal governments
00:03:07.640 and narco tyranny i use that word completely seriously this is a government that goes after its
00:03:16.180 political enemies with a venom and vitriol that it will never have for real criminals because it's
00:03:24.340 it's a revolving door for real criminals but if you're an enemy of the regime if they perceive you
00:03:30.220 as an enemy of the regime if you speak out against government policy as chris barber here did standing
00:03:36.220 in front of big red you could have not only being threatened with eight years in jail but have your
00:03:41.300 truck stolen by the provincial government this is bloody outrageous that's why i called it that
00:03:47.880 katie pasadena universal ostrich farms you could have 399 ostriches healthy ostriches disease free
00:03:57.500 for going almost a year now killed by the federal government because they don't agree with you but and
00:04:08.620 they won't even allow you to test your birds and if you do test your birds you get six months in jail
00:04:14.380 and two hundred thousand dollar fine for each bird you test isn't that moronic i mean tell me folks
00:04:20.320 do you not think that is absolutely stupid but that's what this government and here to here it is again
00:04:28.620 this evil combination of doug ford in ontario and mark carney
00:04:34.940 both attacking individuals for not towing the line
00:04:41.320 and my heart goes out to this farm heart goes out to katie this morning because
00:04:49.040 we are doing everything we can to get the word out to people
00:04:53.220 to ensure people know about this and i say again
00:04:57.960 heath mcdonald is the minister of agriculture it's ultimately
00:05:01.920 in his ballpark he could change this decision
00:05:04.940 overnight he could he could come up monday and say there's going not going to be a call
00:05:09.680 because these birds are highly valuable in terms of research now they had the disease they survived
00:05:18.660 what kind of immunity do they have
00:05:22.820 it comes down to that government doesn't want to know it rather kill birds than find out anything more
00:05:30.060 because hey they don't want you to develop immunity they just want to sell you a vaccine
00:05:35.540 because they're in bed with big pharma we all know and it's so obvious
00:05:40.100 it's so obvious and it's sad and it's sick
00:05:44.240 and i tell you i am sick of it going on and on and on without any end
00:05:52.820 so we're expecting uh jeff to uh to come on here shortly
00:05:58.520 but i wanted to share this latest
00:06:01.260 video here from uh pure paulia and he
00:06:07.160 oh yeah before i get there wanted to share this with you because this is incredible
00:06:13.040 while we were in the courtroom yesterday
00:06:16.140 we hear these this crying this wailing this these horrible sounds emanating
00:06:23.460 apparently from the room next door and i'm thinking we're in courtroom number 12 in the
00:06:30.700 ontario provincial courthouse
00:06:32.160 and i'm saying first of all i thought it was a it was a child
00:06:36.740 then i realized it was the judge said well there's a jail there's a cell next door
00:06:41.620 and somebody's wailing and crying in misery
00:06:45.920 and it sounded literally like a torture chamber
00:06:49.320 now i'm not suggesting anybody was being tortured it sounded like that
00:06:53.040 but it was chilling chilling absolutely chilling because
00:06:57.100 here we are in a courtroom where the government is trying to steal
00:07:03.700 chris barber's truck in a vindictive and punitive act
00:07:09.020 they're trying to take away his livelihood and we hear what sounds like gestapo headquarters next to us
00:07:16.160 it was chilling
00:07:17.680 and one of the authorities present said oh it's so distressful for me to hear somebody in distress
00:07:26.260 i just and it was almost like she was saying oh if they could just go away and shut up
00:07:30.740 because it's bothering me it's in my space
00:07:33.320 it was really something else to witness
00:07:38.280 and so let's go to uh
00:07:41.460 pieropoliev here
00:07:43.640 and he i think he gives a very nice tribute to
00:07:47.920 mr kirk
00:07:51.700 who was assassinated
00:07:54.660 this charlie kirk who was assassinated this week
00:07:57.220 everyone before i begin
00:08:00.220 please allow me to offer my condolences to the families
00:08:04.360 uh the family and loved ones of charlie kirk
00:08:07.680 the 31 year old father of two
00:08:10.360 who was mercilessly assassinated yesterday
00:08:14.820 at a university campus
00:08:17.360 for having expressed contrary views
00:08:19.360 universities are supposed to be places of debate
00:08:22.280 where differing opinions can be offered
00:08:25.280 uh... and exchanged
00:08:27.280 in peace and security
00:08:29.280 uh... we must all unite
00:08:32.080 regardless of our political views
00:08:34.340 around a simple principle
00:08:36.380 political violence is never acceptable
00:08:39.680 every person should be free to express their opinion
00:08:42.880 without fear of violence
00:08:45.680 and speaking with uh... about fear of violence
00:08:48.720 this house here behind me
00:08:50.720 the owner has spent a hundred thousand dollars
00:08:54.560 on extra security
00:08:56.680 bulletproof windows
00:08:58.120 camera systems alarms
00:09:00.020 electric fencing
00:09:01.420 in certain parts of the home
00:09:03.120 i won't get too specific
00:09:04.320 because i don't want the bad guys to know exactly
00:09:06.780 where and what he's got
00:09:08.020 but can you imagine spending a hundred thousand dollars
00:09:10.820 do you know before the liberal government
00:09:12.120 you could buy a house in some parts of canada
00:09:14.220 for under a hundred thousand dollars
00:09:16.220 now that's what it costs to secure your house
00:09:19.020 crime is raging out of control
00:09:21.420 and you heard the stories of the courageous victims behind me today
00:09:25.480 telling their stories
00:09:27.480 you know i find it incredible that sean frazier
00:09:30.220 minister of injustice
00:09:32.360 the man who ruined our entire immigration system before
00:09:36.160 i have to laugh i use that
00:09:38.780 i use that same expression one time to describe
00:09:41.980 the minister of justice
00:09:44.980 the minister of injustice
00:09:46.380 and that's that is so true
00:09:48.440 that is so mr carty then promoted him
00:09:51.040 to be responsible for the crime crisis
00:09:55.140 he said the other day this is not the wild west
00:09:58.340 really
00:09:59.780 has he talked to these victims
00:10:02.080 a woman who's had to leave the country of her birth to live in a
00:10:05.440 another nation because she's afraid of her ex tracking her down
00:10:10.900 has he talked to the family of alim faruqi the courageous father
00:10:16.640 who rose in the middle of the night to defend his kids and lost his life in front of those
00:10:21.840 children the three cowardly scumbags who carried out that attack i bet you anything
00:10:30.580 they have already been arrested in the past
00:10:32.780 you know i had one crime family member of a crime victim the other day say
00:10:37.680 sean frazier is right it's not a wild west it's a war zone in some of these communities
00:10:43.180 people in these neighborhoods are terrified
00:10:45.580 they are genuinely afraid of the crime that is raging in our streets
00:10:50.040 and these are not just stories this is not sensationalism
00:10:53.680 this is data and facts here's what the facts say
00:10:58.540 if you believe statistics canada
00:11:00.920 under the liberals catch and release system
00:11:03.820 extortions are up 330 percent
00:11:07.180 sexual assaults up 76 percent
00:11:10.020 violent crime up 55 percent
00:11:12.740 homicides up 29 percent
00:11:15.080 a majority of canadians told the pollster
00:11:17.940 that they worry a lot or worry sometimes about their own personal safety
00:11:22.220 a majority of canadians are now afraid to live in canada
00:11:26.140 after a decade of these liberal laws
00:11:29.280 in toronto residential robberies are up 50 percent
00:11:33.280 and we see more than 900 armed robberies
00:11:36.780 in the the last two years there the rate of armed robberies is actually doubling
00:11:41.920 and the stories are piling up they are horrendous
00:11:44.780 we've got the story of james plover he was released while awaiting sentencing three hours after his release
00:11:52.980 he brutally murdered bailey mccourt his ex-wife in a parking lot
00:11:57.440 just four kilometers
00:12:00.120 from the courthouse
00:12:02.120 yes and why do i show that because it's another example of the anarcho-tyranny we have
00:12:13.180 running this country
00:12:14.120 criminals running around scot-free
00:12:17.180 people don't feel safe in their homes
00:12:19.220 a hundred thousand dollar security system so you can feel safe
00:12:24.220 is that what liberal canada has become
00:12:27.260 yeah it is and it's become a country
00:12:30.060 where a person like chris barber
00:12:32.520 has to wait over two years
00:12:35.500 to have a judge tell him what he's sentenced to
00:12:41.640 and it could include the stealing of his truck
00:12:46.520 this to me is just beyond reason
00:12:49.760 it's beyond the pale
00:12:50.740 but this is how our government works
00:12:52.720 we have a government that goes after farmers
00:12:55.040 across the country
00:12:56.420 they've been doing this for for a decade or more
00:12:58.520 but now they're literally walking onto private property
00:13:01.980 stealing their livestock and potentially killing it
00:13:06.480 this is a shame
00:13:07.620 now i want to welcome back
00:13:09.360 my good friend and my guest today
00:13:11.860 jeffrey rath of the alberta prosperity project
00:13:14.260 and we were just talking jeff
00:13:17.240 it just seems that news never stops with you
00:13:19.700 so nice to have you back
00:13:22.880 just before we get into your meeting with
00:13:27.180 paul saint-pierre flamedon
00:13:30.280 the leader of the bloc hebig
00:13:32.580 well this is just fascinating to me
00:13:34.400 just wanted your thoughts
00:13:35.780 about charlie kirk's death
00:13:39.200 and the reaction from the left
00:13:41.440 which i found to be
00:13:42.900 i shouldn't have
00:13:44.300 but i still found it shocking
00:13:45.680 oh yeah i mean i don't even know what to say
00:13:49.000 i mean i was just in shock this week
00:13:50.820 a friend of mine in texas
00:13:52.580 actually sent me a video
00:13:53.720 i mean i intentionally didn't want to see charlie being murdered
00:13:56.560 and uh sent me a video
00:13:58.420 of course it's a small little thing on my phone
00:14:00.380 and so i thought oh okay
00:14:02.140 it's a roping or a cutting
00:14:03.520 or you know something to do with horses
00:14:05.080 i opened the video
00:14:06.220 and it was too late to stop it
00:14:07.620 i mean i literally watched you know
00:14:09.040 charlie kirk die on my on my iphone
00:14:11.820 and you know and i replay
00:14:13.500 and i mean i have to say
00:14:15.080 i've been in you know
00:14:15.940 in kind of a funk all week
00:14:17.680 because you know i had a lot of admiration
00:14:19.260 for charlie kirk
00:14:20.160 and um and i you know
00:14:22.360 and i actually wanted to tell this story this morning
00:14:24.300 uh charlie kirk is actually
00:14:26.260 is responsible to a large degree
00:14:29.040 because of his influence
00:14:30.400 for all of the success
00:14:32.300 the alberta independence movement
00:14:33.840 has had this year
00:14:34.820 and i you know
00:14:35.700 and i wanted your viewers to hear this story
00:14:37.380 because it's
00:14:37.960 i don't know if people remember this or not
00:14:40.120 but you know
00:14:41.060 you know app has been working away
00:14:42.700 for years and years
00:14:43.640 you know like you know
00:14:44.480 literally through covet and onward
00:14:46.420 you know spreading the message of
00:14:48.220 you know prosperity through independence
00:14:49.900 you know in alberta
00:14:51.280 and then back in march
00:14:52.920 i was at this event
00:14:53.900 it was actually a covet event
00:14:55.060 because again
00:14:55.620 you know whether some of your readers
00:14:56.680 know this or not
00:14:57.380 i'm the only lawyer in canada
00:14:59.160 that actually ever succeeded
00:15:00.560 in having every single idiotic covet order
00:15:04.400 issued in their province
00:15:06.060 declared to be illegal
00:15:07.540 right
00:15:08.160 so i was at a covet event
00:15:09.660 and we were talking about covet
00:15:10.880 and there's a journalist there
00:15:12.800 and i don't know if you know her or not
00:15:13.940 she's like you know
00:15:14.420 lovely woman
00:15:15.180 by the name of rachel parker
00:15:17.280 david parker's wife
00:15:18.160 and rachel was there
00:15:19.820 and we were chatting
00:15:20.440 and she goes
00:15:21.220 hey jeff
00:15:21.840 she says
00:15:22.340 you're always working on stuff
00:15:24.020 that's really interesting
00:15:25.020 she goes
00:15:25.700 what are you working on
00:15:26.540 besides covet
00:15:27.360 and i said
00:15:28.280 well rachel
00:15:29.120 i said it's really interesting
00:15:30.260 that you'd asked me that
00:15:31.440 i said
00:15:31.820 i'm in the process
00:15:33.040 with the
00:15:33.820 some people from app
00:15:35.540 putting together a delegation
00:15:38.240 uh to go down to washington
00:15:40.380 to talk about
00:15:41.960 what american statehood
00:15:43.220 could look like
00:15:43.820 or you know
00:15:44.480 or what level of support
00:15:45.800 there is for
00:15:46.500 uh alberta independence
00:15:48.100 you know in washington
00:15:49.340 she's really
00:15:50.300 really
00:15:51.120 can i interview you
00:15:52.760 and i said
00:15:53.120 yeah of course rachel
00:15:53.880 you can interview me
00:15:54.700 i didn't think anything of it
00:15:56.160 right
00:15:56.420 so rachel does this
00:15:57.900 little two minute
00:15:58.920 you know interview
00:15:59.860 and she puts a teaser out
00:16:02.040 on acts
00:16:02.920 well lo and behold
00:16:04.700 charlie kirk sees this
00:16:06.580 and charlie kirk
00:16:08.540 reposted it
00:16:10.140 along with his support
00:16:11.900 for alberta independence
00:16:13.680 then you know
00:16:15.080 now that this thing
00:16:16.320 is literally
00:16:17.100 lit on fire
00:16:18.200 it's gone
00:16:18.660 massively viral
00:16:19.960 um you know
00:16:21.140 six million views
00:16:22.660 then elon musk
00:16:24.720 you know
00:16:24.980 tweets
00:16:25.400 you know
00:16:25.860 or comments
00:16:26.600 on charlie's post
00:16:27.640 saying that you know
00:16:28.300 alberta independence
00:16:29.140 is a complete no-brainer
00:16:30.480 and that everybody
00:16:31.440 needs to support
00:16:32.320 alberta independence
00:16:33.200 right
00:16:33.880 and that's what
00:16:35.400 directly led
00:16:36.600 to my then
00:16:37.220 going on fox news
00:16:38.500 and then
00:16:39.660 leading to
00:16:40.760 um you know
00:16:41.940 the access that we have
00:16:43.380 and the meetings
00:16:44.040 that we're having
00:16:44.760 now at the highest levels
00:16:46.500 of the trump administration
00:16:48.000 with regard to
00:16:49.280 u.s. support
00:16:50.120 for alberta independence
00:16:51.480 that was all thanks
00:16:53.180 to charlie kirk
00:16:54.220 and the influence
00:16:55.820 that he has
00:16:56.780 through you know
00:16:57.360 has through
00:16:58.300 his words
00:16:59.300 his message
00:17:00.080 his christianity
00:17:01.240 you know
00:17:01.960 etc
00:17:02.400 you know
00:17:03.300 charlie kirk
00:17:04.340 you know
00:17:04.700 when alberta becomes
00:17:05.520 an independent country
00:17:06.660 you know
00:17:07.320 will need to be
00:17:08.040 you know
00:17:08.300 noted in the history
00:17:09.320 of our movement
00:17:10.120 you know
00:17:10.820 as being directly
00:17:11.720 responsible for
00:17:12.900 you know
00:17:13.420 what i consider
00:17:14.080 to be one of
00:17:14.580 the most important
00:17:15.220 aspects of what
00:17:16.220 we're doing
00:17:16.620 it's very similar
00:17:17.300 to what you know
00:17:17.940 what we were doing
00:17:18.480 with the party quebecois
00:17:19.500 this week
00:17:19.940 and monsieur
00:17:20.600 and we'll get into
00:17:22.040 that a little bit later
00:17:23.160 but i mean charlie kirk
00:17:24.460 was directly responsible
00:17:25.860 for the attention
00:17:27.800 that our movement got
00:17:28.880 and you know
00:17:30.060 the meetings
00:17:30.600 that we're now having
00:17:31.680 um with the trump
00:17:33.220 administration
00:17:33.840 at the highest level
00:17:34.760 so you know
00:17:35.660 needless to say
00:17:36.300 when you know
00:17:36.920 charlie was murdered
00:17:38.200 by that coward
00:17:39.120 uh in utah
00:17:40.500 you know
00:17:41.000 um you know
00:17:42.280 i was devastated
00:17:43.260 because i'd always
00:17:43.860 i'd never met charlie
00:17:44.760 but i was always
00:17:45.360 hoping to
00:17:45.880 and i knew you know
00:17:46.520 i knew
00:17:47.040 i thought one day
00:17:48.060 in my heart of hearts
00:17:48.720 that we would
00:17:49.340 you know
00:17:49.620 because we were
00:17:50.080 that we were
00:17:50.420 going to cross paths
00:17:51.200 and uh
00:17:52.460 now i'll never
00:17:53.260 have that opportunity
00:17:54.140 because his life
00:17:55.300 was ended
00:17:55.900 you know
00:17:56.320 far too early
00:17:57.200 by you know
00:17:58.200 a coward
00:17:58.760 with a you know
00:17:59.560 with a rifle
00:18:00.320 and you know
00:18:01.160 an obvious
00:18:01.880 you know
00:18:02.420 some form of obvious
00:18:03.720 you know
00:18:04.200 derangement syndrome
00:18:05.200 so anyway
00:18:06.420 i just wanted to share
00:18:07.260 that with your viewers
00:18:08.060 i mean it's been a
00:18:08.680 i think a very devastating
00:18:09.920 week you know
00:18:10.580 for all of us
00:18:11.300 i mean charlie's losses
00:18:12.340 uh you know
00:18:13.360 is is just huge
00:18:14.880 yeah well i i write
00:18:17.060 for human events
00:18:17.920 where charlie was a
00:18:19.780 uh editorial
00:18:20.580 uh contributor
00:18:22.020 and i as soon as
00:18:24.660 the the event
00:18:25.520 happened i received
00:18:26.420 word on my telegram
00:18:28.400 from human events
00:18:29.320 uh they got
00:18:30.020 they got the word
00:18:30.820 very very quickly
00:18:31.840 and uh we
00:18:32.760 we were all
00:18:33.400 just thinking
00:18:34.220 this can't be
00:18:34.860 happening
00:18:35.260 and then he
00:18:36.140 surely he'll
00:18:36.960 survive
00:18:37.400 and it was just
00:18:39.040 uh devastating
00:18:39.940 of course
00:18:40.540 no
00:18:40.800 and then you know
00:18:41.580 yeah and then
00:18:42.820 to add an insult
00:18:44.100 to injury
00:18:44.540 we have all these
00:18:45.220 cowards and idiots
00:18:46.420 and you know
00:18:47.280 attention whores
00:18:48.320 like rachel gilmore
00:18:49.540 right
00:18:50.140 that you know
00:18:51.280 somehow need to
00:18:52.080 put themselves
00:18:52.700 you know
00:18:53.220 in the middle
00:18:53.900 of you know
00:18:54.520 this story
00:18:55.300 by you know
00:18:56.540 um you know
00:18:57.420 you know
00:18:58.040 alleging some sort
00:18:58.940 of persecution
00:18:59.740 complex
00:19:00.400 because heaven
00:19:01.640 forbid um
00:19:03.180 that anybody
00:19:03.880 criticized them
00:19:05.040 you know
00:19:05.600 for spewing on
00:19:06.900 about right-wing
00:19:07.780 hate and extremism
00:19:09.200 and trying to
00:19:09.780 somehow blame
00:19:10.580 you know
00:19:11.200 anything other
00:19:11.920 than left-wing
00:19:12.680 lunatics
00:19:13.220 and the hateful
00:19:14.720 messages of the
00:19:15.680 left you know
00:19:16.740 for you know
00:19:17.520 the you know
00:19:18.020 the assassination
00:19:18.600 attempts on
00:19:19.500 donald trump
00:19:20.140 a hateful
00:19:20.820 you know
00:19:21.360 this hateful
00:19:21.860 attack on uh
00:19:23.240 uh you know
00:19:23.740 on charlie kirk
00:19:24.760 you know etc
00:19:25.640 i mean you know
00:19:26.500 the good news is
00:19:27.260 i mean some of
00:19:27.760 these people
00:19:28.320 like that idiotic
00:19:29.240 professor in the
00:19:29.920 u of t i understand
00:19:30.920 will hopefully be
00:19:31.640 fired we had a
00:19:32.700 you know a legal
00:19:33.400 aid lawyer in
00:19:34.420 uh vancouver
00:19:36.200 um that was
00:19:37.360 you know that
00:19:38.140 apparently was
00:19:38.780 fired this week
00:19:39.540 for again laughing
00:19:40.840 hysterically over
00:19:42.020 you know the loss
00:19:43.260 of uh you know
00:19:44.360 a great human
00:19:45.180 being a father
00:19:46.240 and you know
00:19:47.080 father and husband
00:19:48.040 and good christian
00:19:49.120 you know they
00:19:49.800 think this is just
00:19:50.580 absolutely hilarious
00:19:51.780 that uh that
00:19:53.100 somebody like charlie
00:19:54.040 could be murdered
00:19:54.740 right you know
00:19:55.920 all of those people
00:19:56.680 i mean i hope
00:19:57.440 that marco rubio
00:19:58.300 follows through
00:19:58.960 and what he
00:19:59.320 was promising
00:20:00.080 you know to
00:20:00.920 put all of
00:20:01.360 those people
00:20:01.800 on you know
00:20:02.360 on the no
00:20:02.820 fly list
00:20:03.420 and when
00:20:04.080 rachel gilmore
00:20:05.100 you know with
00:20:05.880 her expertise
00:20:06.760 and right-wing
00:20:07.600 extremism
00:20:08.480 you know next
00:20:09.320 travels to the
00:20:10.200 united states
00:20:10.920 for whatever
00:20:11.380 reason you
00:20:12.360 know she
00:20:12.640 ends up in
00:20:13.300 cbp detention
00:20:14.400 um you know
00:20:15.400 or an ice
00:20:16.100 detention facility
00:20:17.060 for a month
00:20:18.060 or two while
00:20:18.720 they figure out
00:20:19.400 her case you
00:20:20.480 know before
00:20:21.040 they deport
00:20:21.700 her back to
00:20:22.200 the people's
00:20:22.680 republic of
00:20:23.240 canada
00:20:23.660 yeah yeah
00:20:25.540 i think
00:20:26.160 i think she
00:20:26.960 should be
00:20:27.260 cooling her
00:20:27.700 heels off
00:20:28.300 and
00:20:28.420 for a while
00:20:29.960 there
00:20:30.240 but cbc
00:20:32.080 didn't disappoint
00:20:32.820 me
00:20:33.220 organs like
00:20:34.560 the guardian
00:20:35.140 which is
00:20:35.640 just obscene
00:20:37.040 in some of
00:20:38.000 their reporting
00:20:38.660 about this
00:20:39.520 trying to
00:20:40.400 create a person
00:20:42.380 that never
00:20:42.720 existed in
00:20:43.400 charlie kirk
00:20:43.980 calling him a
00:20:45.520 racist
00:20:45.880 and the
00:20:46.900 usual nonsense
00:20:47.900 but i i am
00:20:50.140 glad there
00:20:50.560 was some
00:20:50.920 pushback even
00:20:51.560 from the
00:20:51.920 left and
00:20:52.420 getting some
00:20:53.420 of these
00:20:53.740 idiots off
00:20:54.600 the air
00:20:55.020 msnbc but
00:20:56.520 tragedy and
00:20:57.980 thank you for
00:20:58.440 sharing that
00:20:58.940 story your
00:20:59.740 connection to
00:21:00.420 charlie kirk
00:21:00.980 and alberta
00:21:01.480 independence i
00:21:02.180 think that's
00:21:02.680 going to
00:21:03.140 fascinate a
00:21:04.460 lot of
00:21:04.740 people but
00:21:05.340 better get
00:21:06.180 on to
00:21:06.580 your meeting
00:21:07.820 with the
00:21:08.660 leader of
00:21:09.040 the party
00:21:09.740 quebec well
00:21:10.300 i was very
00:21:11.100 surprised when
00:21:11.920 you told me
00:21:12.360 this the other
00:21:12.940 day on the
00:21:13.320 phone that
00:21:14.340 you met
00:21:14.680 with uh
00:21:15.400 uh
00:21:16.240 john
00:21:17.460 paul
00:21:18.260 saint-pierre
00:21:19.180 terminal and
00:21:20.760 was it
00:21:21.540 initiated by
00:21:22.300 yourself and
00:21:23.140 or the
00:21:23.560 alberta prosperity
00:21:24.340 project or
00:21:24.900 that's what we
00:21:26.800 found so
00:21:27.780 fascinating about
00:21:28.620 it it was uh
00:21:29.380 uh you know
00:21:30.400 monsieur saint-pierre
00:21:31.320 plamondon's team
00:21:32.320 that reached out
00:21:33.020 to us and
00:21:34.120 asked if we
00:21:34.760 would meet with
00:21:35.440 him while he
00:21:36.080 was in um
00:21:37.160 alberta and
00:21:38.280 of course we
00:21:38.740 took this as
00:21:39.400 you know as
00:21:40.020 a recognition
00:21:40.760 you know at
00:21:41.580 a very high
00:21:42.120 level that
00:21:43.080 you know both
00:21:43.620 you know uh
00:21:44.320 dennis
00:21:44.600 modry um
00:21:46.000 uh mitch
00:21:46.680 sylvester and
00:21:47.360 i you know
00:21:48.140 were recognized
00:21:48.820 across the
00:21:49.540 country as
00:21:50.520 um uh you
00:21:51.760 know as
00:21:52.060 leaders in the
00:21:52.800 alberta independence
00:21:53.700 movement so you
00:21:54.580 know obviously we
00:21:55.160 found you know
00:21:55.900 it very flattering
00:21:56.560 and you know
00:21:57.140 very you know
00:21:57.760 curious um
00:21:58.920 we went through
00:21:59.900 some you know
00:22:01.260 permutations and
00:22:02.240 combinations of
00:22:03.220 how the hell could
00:22:04.160 this back
00:22:04.620 on what we're
00:22:05.980 trying to do
00:22:06.940 but we thought
00:22:07.760 you know what i
00:22:08.340 mean we're an
00:22:08.720 educational society
00:22:10.060 it's our role to
00:22:12.040 educate our fellow
00:22:13.080 albertans on you
00:22:14.720 know either you
00:22:15.240 know the pros and
00:22:15.900 cons of independence
00:22:16.940 good or bad
00:22:17.880 so you know we
00:22:19.220 thought well why
00:22:19.740 not take the
00:22:20.320 meeting if nothing
00:22:21.160 else it's going to
00:22:21.840 be fascinating
00:22:22.560 and oh my god it
00:22:24.400 did not disappoint
00:22:25.500 our meeting we
00:22:26.380 had a four and a
00:22:27.260 half hour meeting
00:22:28.480 with monsieur
00:22:29.200 plomondon and his
00:22:31.400 team um discussing
00:22:33.180 a wide range of
00:22:35.040 topics and um uh
00:22:37.760 and quite frankly
00:22:38.780 gave us an
00:22:39.480 absolutely new um
00:22:41.700 uh view of where
00:22:44.680 quebec was coming
00:22:45.580 from on a lot of
00:22:46.860 these issues and
00:22:48.020 on independence and
00:22:49.380 quite frankly um
00:22:50.980 demonstrated to us
00:22:52.120 that we have far
00:22:53.300 more in common
00:22:54.160 with the you know
00:22:55.300 the pay kiss you
00:22:56.340 know the pq in
00:22:57.280 quebec than we
00:22:58.420 have with wannabe
00:22:59.420 federal federalist
00:23:00.740 prime ministers like
00:23:01.660 pierre poiliev who
00:23:03.180 wants to continue to
00:23:04.740 hold alberta transfer
00:23:05.960 payments and um uh
00:23:08.700 supply management as
00:23:10.700 mechanisms to
00:23:11.760 continually bribe um
00:23:14.080 politicians in
00:23:15.180 quebec and bribe
00:23:16.540 the you know the
00:23:17.140 people of quebec you
00:23:18.560 know into continuing
00:23:19.480 to support you know
00:23:20.820 one failed corrupt
00:23:22.220 federalist government
00:23:23.420 after another after
00:23:24.520 another right and
00:23:26.300 i'll stop you there
00:23:27.600 because this is what
00:23:28.480 really fascinated me
00:23:29.560 from our conversation
00:23:30.580 is that we have a
00:23:31.960 conservative leader
00:23:33.160 in pierre poiliev who
00:23:33.980 wants to continue
00:23:34.820 equalization forever
00:23:36.140 no chance of it ever
00:23:38.240 ending he's never even
00:23:39.260 considered that but
00:23:40.540 the leader of the
00:23:41.400 party quebec well
00:23:42.180 potentially the next
00:23:43.220 premier of that
00:23:44.600 province because the
00:23:45.880 cock is way down on
00:23:46.800 the pole he's prepared
00:23:48.240 to see equalization in
00:23:50.320 that's just amazing
00:23:51.220 absolutely and one of
00:23:51.940 the one of the
00:23:52.440 interesting things was
00:23:53.380 and we never realized
00:23:54.280 or we didn't never
00:23:54.900 had seen this document
00:23:55.920 but um this was
00:23:58.000 shared with us by uh
00:23:59.600 you know monsieur
00:24:00.120 plamondon at our
00:24:01.160 at our meeting right
00:24:02.360 and uh unbeknownst to
00:24:04.440 us at the you know
00:24:05.260 on the app um in
00:24:07.200 2023 they did a
00:24:09.300 document very similar
00:24:10.580 to the value of
00:24:11.560 freedom right where
00:24:13.100 they literally ran all
00:24:14.640 of the numbers and
00:24:15.300 had all the
00:24:15.660 economists go through
00:24:18.480 what an independent
00:24:20.280 quebec would look
00:24:21.340 like right and they
00:24:22.800 factored in the fact
00:24:23.960 that they were going
00:24:24.440 to be losing 15
00:24:25.420 billion dollars a
00:24:26.300 year 13 billion
00:24:27.180 dollars a year
00:24:27.700 probably in 2023 um
00:24:29.460 uh of equalization
00:24:31.160 payments and the
00:24:32.520 conclusion that they
00:24:33.500 came to right was
00:24:35.280 that quebec is more
00:24:36.900 than capable of
00:24:37.860 standing on its own
00:24:38.780 two feet without
00:24:39.620 equalization so ask
00:24:41.660 us why they're getting
00:24:42.460 any now if um there's
00:24:44.240 a document that exists
00:24:45.220 from an economic
00:24:45.900 perspective that says
00:24:47.240 that quebec doesn't
00:24:48.060 need equalization
00:24:49.320 right um but they
00:24:51.200 realized that without
00:24:52.180 um uh that if they
00:24:54.140 were able to
00:24:54.980 completely throw
00:24:55.880 ottawa out of their
00:24:56.900 affairs get rid of
00:24:58.240 all levels of federal
00:24:59.880 regulation in quebec
00:25:01.140 get rid of all levels
00:25:03.000 of federal taxation in
00:25:04.780 quebec and have the
00:25:05.900 government of quebec
00:25:06.860 with the fiscal
00:25:07.540 capacity to collect
00:25:09.060 all the taxes
00:25:09.760 collected by ottawa
00:25:10.800 and keep them in
00:25:11.980 quebec for the
00:25:12.640 benefit of people
00:25:14.920 right that quebec
00:25:16.700 could run surplus
00:25:17.580 budgets and stand
00:25:18.800 alone um uh
00:25:20.960 outside of canada
00:25:22.680 and then what you
00:25:23.780 know what i thought
00:25:24.500 was really fascinating
00:25:25.740 and for me it's you
00:25:26.920 know as a you know
00:25:27.560 somebody with an
00:25:28.020 honors degree in
00:25:28.680 political science and
00:25:29.620 an honors degree in
00:25:30.700 law from the london
00:25:31.400 school of economics
00:25:32.100 i've always been very
00:25:33.720 interested in public
00:25:34.620 policy and the
00:25:35.400 drivers of public
00:25:36.260 policy and and
00:25:37.500 whatever so i flat
00:25:38.260 out asked you know
00:25:39.120 monsieur um you
00:25:40.820 know what um they
00:25:42.420 saw as the benefits
00:25:43.420 he says oh we think
00:25:44.220 getting rid of
00:25:44.700 transfer payments will
00:25:45.520 be very beneficial for
00:25:46.860 quebec and i said
00:25:48.220 well you know um
00:25:49.420 paul i said what
00:25:50.380 you know what do you
00:25:51.160 think is so
00:25:51.700 beneficial about
00:25:52.400 getting rid of
00:25:52.820 transfer payments
00:25:53.400 this fascinates me
00:25:54.280 and he said well
00:25:55.340 jeff he says you
00:25:57.000 have no idea the
00:25:58.160 degree of corruption
00:25:59.680 right is injected
00:26:01.740 into quebec politics
00:26:03.960 with liberal
00:26:05.100 politicians having
00:26:06.260 access to a 15
00:26:08.020 billion dollar a
00:26:09.100 year bribery fund
00:26:10.400 with which they can
00:26:11.800 influence and change
00:26:13.500 the outcome of
00:26:14.440 politics in quebec
00:26:15.400 right it was
00:26:16.920 fascinating to me it
00:26:17.920 was almost an
00:26:18.360 epiphany
00:26:18.820 well that's that's
00:26:21.280 absolutely amazing
00:26:22.280 and did you discuss
00:26:23.340 pipelines at all
00:26:24.240 would he be a
00:26:24.840 pipeline i'll come to
00:26:27.220 that in a second
00:26:28.020 but i want to
00:26:28.540 finish this yeah
00:26:29.080 i'm trying for a
00:26:30.360 change to actually
00:26:31.040 give you a chance to
00:26:31.860 talk and ask
00:26:32.460 questions well thank
00:26:34.560 you sorry but
00:26:36.940 anyway the other
00:26:37.520 thing that he said
00:26:38.580 about transfer payments
00:26:39.620 i thought was really
00:26:40.560 fascinating and it
00:26:41.340 had something to do
00:26:42.100 with uh you know
00:26:43.060 monsieur plamondon's
00:26:44.080 background right and
00:26:45.460 what i found was
00:26:46.220 really interesting is
00:26:47.000 that he and i had a
00:26:47.900 lot of um you know
00:26:49.200 things in common as
00:26:50.140 professionals right so
00:26:51.720 um you know he was
00:26:53.320 trained as a lawyer at
00:26:54.380 mcgill i was trained
00:26:55.120 as a lawyer at the
00:26:56.240 london school of
00:26:56.740 economics
00:26:57.160 in england he did
00:26:58.020 an mba at oxford so
00:26:59.340 we both had that um
00:27:00.500 you know that england
00:27:01.380 you know that english
00:27:02.320 um uh university
00:27:04.320 experience right and
00:27:05.780 then he started out as
00:27:06.900 a litigator um in the
00:27:08.700 litigation department
00:27:09.720 of psychman elliott in
00:27:10.840 montreal i started out
00:27:12.460 as a litigator at a
00:27:13.320 big liberal law firm in
00:27:14.420 downtown calgary called
00:27:15.640 burnett duckworth and
00:27:16.420 palmer okay so but
00:27:18.720 what pierre uh what
00:27:20.040 said pierre plamondon
00:27:21.880 told us was that what
00:27:23.540 actually made him a
00:27:24.940 paquist right or you
00:27:26.860 know um and drove him
00:27:28.260 towards independence
00:27:29.080 was as a young lawyer
00:27:30.920 he was involved in um
00:27:34.220 uh working on the
00:27:36.460 psychman elliott file on
00:27:37.900 ad scam on the on the
00:27:39.620 um uh um uh you know on
00:27:42.100 that big liberal scandal
00:27:43.880 where yeah go ahead
00:27:45.140 no i i know the one
00:27:47.560 you're talking about yes
00:27:48.360 yeah yeah yeah so we're
00:27:49.900 literally you know
00:27:50.620 peltier is you know
00:27:52.140 peltier's right-hand man
00:27:53.420 and chuck and all these
00:27:55.020 people right were
00:27:56.140 literally given hundreds
00:27:57.360 of millions of taxpayer
00:27:59.420 dollars by jean
00:28:00.520 peltier to go into
00:28:02.320 quebec and bribe people
00:28:04.100 by giving them piles of
00:28:06.440 money um to influence the
00:28:08.680 outcome of the 1995
00:28:09.840 referendum and what you
00:28:11.700 know plamondon said was
00:28:12.720 mr plamondon said was
00:28:13.840 that you know in being
00:28:15.080 like up close and
00:28:16.180 personal and seeing this
00:28:17.660 and then seeing the
00:28:18.800 degree to which all of
00:28:20.180 this criminality and he
00:28:21.380 said outright criminality
00:28:22.820 was covered up by um you
00:28:25.900 know the the subsequent
00:28:27.120 um uh government commission
00:28:29.280 and by the liberal
00:28:30.080 government he was so
00:28:31.780 disgusted with the level
00:28:33.680 of corruption and um
00:28:35.980 criminality in our federal
00:28:37.640 liberal uh the system
00:28:39.460 that he at that point
00:28:41.100 became sworn to uh uh
00:28:43.780 quebec sovereignty and
00:28:45.140 independence so i thought
00:28:46.060 that was fascinating
00:28:47.160 well no no doubt and
00:28:50.500 i'm i'm very surprised
00:28:51.640 he has that that
00:28:52.900 background i had no
00:28:53.840 idea that he studied
00:28:55.500 over in in england but
00:28:56.820 so if we could get to
00:28:58.400 the pipeline how was his
00:29:01.280 reaction to a pipeline
00:29:02.360 going through the
00:29:03.420 province of quebec since
00:29:04.380 the province of quebec is
00:29:05.360 so adverse to that right
00:29:06.380 now well the interesting
00:29:07.880 thing was he's you know
00:29:08.940 he's flat out averse to
00:29:10.020 it so the you know the
00:29:11.400 pq is not going to change
00:29:12.540 their policies on alberta
00:29:13.560 pipelines and he said
00:29:14.800 look you know the way we
00:29:15.640 look at it is why
00:29:17.500 would we let you know
00:29:18.580 and he called it a
00:29:19.260 tunnel have a little
00:29:20.080 tunnel underground you
00:29:21.800 know go across our
00:29:22.700 territory that all it's
00:29:23.880 going to do is create you
00:29:25.520 know a couple thousand
00:29:26.260 jobs you know for on the
00:29:27.760 short term you know while
00:29:28.840 it's being constructed and
00:29:30.400 then afterward doesn't do
00:29:31.860 anything for us right
00:29:33.800 other than the potential
00:29:35.980 risk of rupture and you
00:29:38.000 know oil polluting farmland
00:29:39.640 farmland and you know
00:29:41.160 natural habitats in quebec he
00:29:43.320 just doesn't think the
00:29:44.360 cost value the cost
00:29:45.580 benefit proposition you
00:29:47.540 know is high enough you
00:29:48.620 know the other thing that
00:29:49.380 we were talking about and
00:29:50.300 that he noted he said
00:29:51.580 like it's really a
00:29:52.320 pipeline to nowhere right
00:29:53.640 because there aren't
00:29:54.400 there aren't refineries in
00:29:56.660 quebec that can handle
00:29:57.760 alberta crude there aren't
00:29:58.880 refineries in nova scotia
00:30:00.700 or new brunswick that can
00:30:01.600 handle alberta crude
00:30:02.460 they're all set up to deal
00:30:03.940 with you know light sweet
00:30:06.220 saudi crude right and he
00:30:08.400 said you know really he
00:30:09.200 said alberta you're way
00:30:10.120 better off um you know if
00:30:12.080 you simply declare you
00:30:13.920 know um uh independence
00:30:15.700 from canada and without
00:30:17.200 canada interfering in the
00:30:19.220 your international relations
00:30:20.900 with the united states
00:30:22.280 right you can have as many
00:30:23.860 pipelines as you want to
00:30:25.200 the gulf coast um you
00:30:27.020 know through idaho and
00:30:28.280 um washington state to the
00:30:30.180 port of seattle you know
00:30:31.660 whatever it is right and
00:30:33.560 you know so i thought that
00:30:34.500 was you know that was that
00:30:35.580 was interesting and let's
00:30:36.660 face it i mean that whole
00:30:37.560 energy east pipeline again
00:30:38.860 you know sort of a
00:30:39.480 pipeline to nowhere you
00:30:40.840 know just like this idea
00:30:41.760 of building facilities on
00:30:43.760 you know on uh hudson's
00:30:45.220 bay where things are going
00:30:46.660 to be frozen in for three
00:30:47.900 or four months of the year
00:30:48.880 right i understand now that
00:30:50.180 they're talking about
00:30:50.720 building icebreakers but
00:30:51.880 good luck how many years is
00:30:53.480 that going to take right
00:30:54.640 who in europe would want
00:30:55.940 to buy lng from churchill
00:30:57.560 when your gas supply could
00:30:59.680 go not just be reduced but
00:31:01.120 reduced to zero for three
00:31:03.060 or four months of the year um
00:31:04.760 you know on the whim of a
00:31:06.600 canadian northern winter
00:31:07.580 right so we have all of
00:31:09.400 these stupid projects that
00:31:10.680 make no sense economically
00:31:12.020 when alberta's real interest
00:31:14.720 is in vastly increasing um
00:31:18.640 our economic ties to the
00:31:20.380 united states so i was you
00:31:22.260 know this morning i'm you
00:31:23.280 know a little bit tired
00:31:23.980 because i drove six hours
00:31:26.340 there and back last night to
00:31:27.780 an app event in foremost
00:31:29.320 alberta right but one of our
00:31:31.400 speakers last night in foremost
00:31:33.060 was talking about um uh an
00:31:35.620 economist was talking about
00:31:37.080 um alberta exports and alberta
00:31:39.960 gdp and how much alberta
00:31:41.640 exports i was shocked by the
00:31:43.380 statistic this one statistic
00:31:44.720 that he provided okay do you
00:31:46.900 realize that ninety percent
00:31:49.720 nine zero percent of all of
00:31:52.340 alberta's exports go directly
00:31:54.520 south to the united states we only
00:31:57.280 export ten percent of our goods
00:31:59.780 to the rest of canada okay so
00:32:02.180 think about that from an
00:32:03.340 independence perspective and
00:32:05.020 think about what we get with you
00:32:06.440 know two more pipelines to the
00:32:07.840 gulf coast um the you know the
00:32:09.940 the conclusion of keystone xl or
00:32:12.280 another pipeline um you know like
00:32:14.520 keystone xl straight down through
00:32:17.080 montana to the gulf coast right
00:32:18.680 um all we have to do is increase
00:32:22.480 alberta's exports to the u.s by
00:32:25.260 ten percent and alberta doesn't
00:32:27.680 need canada at all right think
00:32:30.540 about that like we don't need
00:32:32.140 canada canada needs alberta but
00:32:34.420 every time you get kicked in the
00:32:35.820 teeth by you know by various
00:32:37.900 regimes in ottawa it seems that
00:32:39.840 they forget that you know that
00:32:41.420 they need us a hell of a lot more
00:32:43.560 than we need them
00:32:44.560 i think that's that's clearly
00:32:48.640 evident it's self-evident sounds
00:32:50.860 like plamed on saying though that
00:32:52.540 a pipeline through quebec only
00:32:54.700 makes sense in every aspect of
00:32:57.380 that word if alberta remains in
00:33:00.840 confederation if alberta is
00:33:02.960 independent why do you need the
00:33:05.560 pipelines for quebec because you
00:33:06.920 can then go anywhere else in north
00:33:09.380 america with a pipeline right
00:33:11.000 you know and i don't want to i
00:33:13.520 don't want to get him in trouble
00:33:14.660 with his electorate um you know
00:33:16.380 because i think you know they met
00:33:17.600 with us in good faith and it was a
00:33:19.520 really really interesting meeting
00:33:20.920 and we want to have many more of
00:33:22.400 them right because we think that
00:33:23.520 there's really a lot of natural
00:33:25.200 alliances between the alberta
00:33:27.320 independence movement and you know
00:33:29.120 and the peltique quebecois and the
00:33:30.440 independence movement of quebec
00:33:31.620 right um and i'll come to one of the
00:33:33.680 big ones here you know in a minute
00:33:35.100 but uh you know what you know
00:33:37.120 monsieur plamondon was indicating
00:33:38.540 is that you know that you know that
00:33:40.140 voters in quebec are a lot more
00:33:41.760 gallic you know or latin in nature
00:33:44.420 they're a lot more emotionally driven
00:33:46.660 so you know they've been a lot more
00:33:48.800 and this these aren't his words these
00:33:50.140 are my words right so you know
00:33:52.360 there i think you know they've been
00:33:54.200 a lot more susceptible to various
00:33:56.760 forms of derangement syndrome right
00:33:58.760 whether it's trump derangement syndrome
00:34:00.840 or climate change derangement syndrome
00:34:03.720 i mean you know that you know our
00:34:05.300 benighted uh chief justice of the
00:34:07.380 supreme court of canada uh you know
00:34:09.400 justice vognard de quebec right um you
00:34:12.440 know has said in writing in a majority
00:34:14.540 decision on or not a majority decision
00:34:16.520 in the decision on climate change
00:34:17.720 that oh because you know climate
00:34:20.540 change is an existential threat to the
00:34:22.660 world it's an existential threat to
00:34:24.800 canada and because it's an
00:34:26.620 existential threat we can suspend you
00:34:29.380 know the strict interpretation of
00:34:31.480 division of powers under 92 you know
00:34:34.260 whatever blah blah blah and because
00:34:36.220 it's an emergency you know will let
00:34:38.420 liberals interfere with um you know
00:34:40.820 resource development in provinces which
00:34:43.020 are 100 percent within the sole
00:34:45.000 jurisdiction of the provinces right you
00:34:47.120 know on this notion of you know
00:34:48.800 climate hysteria right and i guess you
00:34:50.980 know what monsieur pilmandan was
00:34:52.020 indicating to us without saying it
00:34:53.940 because he's obviously a lot more
00:34:55.200 polite and needs to be a lot more
00:34:56.540 concerned about his electorate is that
00:34:58.300 climate hysteria in quebec is so
00:35:00.260 strong that even when quebec becomes
00:35:03.100 independent you know they're not going
00:35:04.920 to replace the 15 billion dollars
00:35:06.940 they're using in alberta transfer
00:35:08.320 payments by developing the massive
00:35:10.860 shale gas fields that they have in
00:35:13.520 quebec that could easily replace um you
00:35:16.740 know create massive economic
00:35:18.200 development in quebec and easily
00:35:20.240 replace the uh what they have lost in
00:35:23.280 transfer payments from alberta right but
00:35:24.960 it's a non-starter because of the
00:35:26.380 climate hysteria in quebec and the
00:35:28.920 degree to which liberal propaganda paid
00:35:31.640 for with alberta dollars again you know
00:35:33.940 has penetrated that electric and that
00:35:36.760 they're literally you know unfortunately i
00:35:38.400 don't think there's a french translation
00:35:40.140 of chicken little but they all believe
00:35:42.140 that the sky is falling and that you
00:35:44.380 know that somehow or other we're all
00:35:46.440 going to die you know of climate change
00:35:49.300 within the next 12 years and the
00:35:51.040 planet's going to cease to operate as a
00:35:53.220 planet because we've crossed this
00:35:55.060 magical line of 440 parts per million
00:35:57.680 of co2 in the atmosphere well i guess
00:36:00.120 that sounds slightly problematic to me
00:36:03.080 because albertans are much more socially
00:36:05.840 conservative and economically conservative
00:36:08.520 than people in quebec are you not
00:36:11.020 expecting some pushback from people who
00:36:13.160 say why are you hobnobbing with the
00:36:15.220 party quebecois why do you see we have
00:36:18.460 something so much in common with quebec
00:36:20.760 when these are people who are very very
00:36:23.420 different let's let's be clear on that
00:36:25.660 right we don't as a people we don't have
00:36:28.560 you know we're not very similar we have
00:36:30.600 very unique cultures right and then we
00:36:32.800 talked about that as well right so you
00:36:34.900 know was you know was explaining to us
00:36:37.300 you know and it's something we all know
00:36:38.660 and see from observe you know being
00:36:40.480 outside observers right that you know
00:36:42.820 quebec is much more socialist than
00:36:45.380 alberta they call it social democratic
00:36:47.280 but let's call it what it is it's much
00:36:48.540 more socialistic than alberta they don't
00:36:51.220 see themselves as individuals with
00:36:53.220 individual rights they see themselves as
00:36:55.640 a collective right they you know kind of
00:36:57.740 this hive of you know buzzing little
00:36:59.900 you know francophones in the middle of
00:37:01.960 you know north american uh um you know
00:37:04.720 you know north you know fortress north
00:37:06.380 america kind of thing um you know so on
00:37:09.420 that aspect we're very different but the
00:37:11.760 one big thing we have in common is that we
00:37:14.960 completely agree that ottawa as a level of
00:37:18.800 government and federalist politicians are
00:37:21.560 completely unnecessary to the welfare and
00:37:24.520 well-being of our citizens right um which i you
00:37:28.280 know which i think that's all we need to
00:37:29.780 have in common and on that basis right you
00:37:32.680 know monsieur plumondon has assured us
00:37:34.960 and pledged to us and this was confirmed in
00:37:36.660 the national post right that the minute
00:37:39.320 alberta has a successful referendum we
00:37:42.060 vote yes um to the question do you agree
00:37:45.080 that alberta shall become a sovereign
00:37:46.500 country and cease to be a province of
00:37:48.180 canada the government of quebec under
00:37:50.840 monsieur plumondon which you know will
00:37:52.700 likely happen in the fall of 2026
00:37:54.700 right will immediately recognize alberta as
00:37:58.560 an independent country right no clarity
00:38:01.460 act negotiations required they will
00:38:03.740 recognize us as an independent country
00:38:05.980 knowing full well that when monsieur plumondon
00:38:09.340 succeeds in having successful referendum in
00:38:11.960 his first mandate which is his promise to the
00:38:14.060 people of quebec that you know the
00:38:15.980 independent government of alberta will
00:38:17.640 reciprocate and also extend you know at that
00:38:21.340 point international recognition uh you know
00:38:23.860 to the independent government of quebec um to
00:38:26.940 the country of quebec right so we see that
00:38:29.780 this is a fundamental shift right in the
00:38:32.940 constitutional order of canada right like
00:38:35.780 think about that even if we're messing
00:38:37.460 around with the stupid um you know clarity
00:38:40.460 act definitions that some people say apply
00:38:42.520 to independence we now have the one
00:38:45.600 province in canada that everybody says has a
00:38:48.300 veto you know over constitutional change
00:38:50.960 quebec that's going to be directly on board
00:38:54.160 and supporting alberta independence on a going
00:38:56.960 forward basis right okay i'm i'm i'm seeing
00:39:00.660 this because if what you're saying here if i'm
00:39:03.000 understanding is if if the only thing you have
00:39:05.660 in common with quebec is a desire to be
00:39:08.100 independent from canada that's really all you
00:39:10.660 need from quebec no they're not going to tell
00:39:12.660 you how to govern yourself the other thing that
00:39:14.740 we agreed upon right or we agree on is that
00:39:17.660 we have the utmost respect for democracy
00:39:20.740 right and you know if the people of quebec want
00:39:24.180 to be governed that way and they see themselves as
00:39:26.200 this socialist collective hive right um and they
00:39:30.080 want to vote that way and they want to vote to
00:39:32.080 reaffirm through their own constitution that
00:39:34.060 there's some sort of you know socialist collective
00:39:36.120 hive right well that's for them to decide that's
00:39:39.120 not for us to decide it's not for the people of
00:39:41.200 alberta to say oh you can't organize yourselves
00:39:43.640 that way at that point it's none of our you know gd
00:39:46.440 business you know it's none of our business how
00:39:48.280 they want to organize themselves democratically but
00:39:50.620 what i did find you know very interesting was that
00:39:52.840 you know monsieur and the pq uh share a lot of
00:39:56.900 our ideas with regard to what's going to become the
00:39:59.760 new alberta interim constitution and you know
00:40:02.740 within the next couple weeks we're actually going to
00:40:04.160 be sharing our draft alberta constitution um you
00:40:07.860 know with the pq in quebec because of course one of
00:40:10.820 the aspects of um the constitution that we're
00:40:14.020 developing is it's kind of a melding of the
00:40:16.840 swiss and american models you know where you have the
00:40:19.780 checks and balances of the american system but we set a
00:40:23.780 very very low bar um for citizens to be able to vote to
00:40:29.260 remove legislators to remove senators to remove the chief
00:40:32.880 executive to remove you know officials that they believe are
00:40:36.660 acting corruptly or inappropriately um you know and a
00:40:39.960 very low bar um you know for citizens to you know veto legislation
00:40:44.340 um and budgets deficit spending you know all of those things right and we
00:40:51.180 thought we found it really interesting that
00:40:52.880 you know that the pq feel very much the same way that we do in this regard and
00:40:57.220 want to have much more citizen participation
00:40:59.540 in quebec you know to keep the corruption
00:41:03.000 of the present westminster system out of governance
00:41:06.580 right but you know and then we have this conversation where they they said oh
00:41:10.440 yeah you know we really like this and we like the direct democracy from the
00:41:13.780 you know from the uh from the swiss system but then we get criticized in quebec as
00:41:18.400 the pq for being oh you're referendum crazy you're referendum crazy right
00:41:23.100 so i helpfully said you know i i would i just own that i look him straight in the eye
00:41:28.560 and it's like no we're not referendum crazy we're democracy crazy like we
00:41:32.400 believe that the people should have their say and not live in a functional five-year
00:41:37.620 dictatorship from election to election which as we know in canada when we look
00:41:42.540 at everything going on with the liberals right now
00:41:44.560 is completely rife with corruption like you know let's i'd love to know how
00:41:50.660 since trudeau's announcement of his electric choo-choo train running from
00:41:55.000 toronto to montreal right um you know without parliament without
00:42:00.040 consultation with the people of canada without telling albertans that we're
00:42:04.680 going to pay for it you know etc etc i want to know how the hell they managed
00:42:08.840 to spend five billion dollars on that project so far
00:42:11.820 and i'll tell you how they've done i'll tell you how they've done it
00:42:15.440 right it's through all the normal liberal graft and corruption
00:42:19.420 where all of the you know liberals line up and in this case
00:42:22.820 you know it's good old smc lavalon remember that company that
00:42:26.280 you know used to hire they used to hire prostitutes to hire you know to get
00:42:30.380 government contracts well they've now changed their name and i love this to
00:42:33.680 atkins borealis and doing their past practice hiring prostitutes to get
00:42:38.760 contracts i thought it was really fitting that their new name sounds like a
00:42:42.020 venereal disease oh i've got a bad taste of atkins realis right
00:42:46.760 and i mean that's what's going on here right so atkins realis i'm sure is already
00:42:52.500 raked in hundreds of millions of dollars i'm sure that other you know liberal
00:42:56.380 affiliated firms have raked in millions and millions of dollars
00:42:59.260 and the liberals don't care it's just like the bug plant the battery plants
00:43:03.800 the hype so-called hydrogen plants right they don't care if these projects ever
00:43:07.840 succeed as long as all of their liberal
00:43:10.400 clients get paid up front out of our money right on all of these stupid schemes
00:43:16.960 that's how the system's supposed to work well it's a big money that's the
00:43:21.220 corporate the crony capitalism that mark carney has
00:43:24.920 profited off his entire career and he continues to do that but
00:43:28.960 i i wanted to mention before i forget i think yesterday was a watershed day
00:43:34.420 in in canadian history because in the same day
00:43:38.340 i sat through a hearing a sentencing hearing
00:43:41.700 for a truck now it's incredible to me but chris barber of course of the freedom
00:43:46.500 convoy is in danger of having his truck stolen
00:43:50.340 by the ontario government of doug ford and i watched these these lawyers for the
00:43:55.880 crown prosecution show pictures of of chris with his
00:43:59.460 family at the with with tamara leach and
00:44:03.260 while they were showing these lovely pictures they were talking about how
00:44:06.160 they're going to put this man out of business forever
00:44:08.000 take his take his truck take his livelihood away
00:44:11.120 and when i came home that afternoon
00:44:13.740 i got it i got a text from my friend at the ostrich farm in in british columbia
00:44:19.060 and katie pass and they told me that the federal court of appeal
00:44:21.720 has denied their appeal to stop the government from killing
00:44:26.820 399 ostriches for absolutely no reason
00:44:29.860 and i thought this is the canada i live in today
00:44:32.760 they persecute farmers they persecute truckers
00:44:36.240 they're punitive they're mean they're desperate and they will go after people
00:44:41.760 in the most visceral horrible ways
00:44:44.540 and it's all about violating people's basic human rights
00:44:48.380 and i think yesterday does a lot for what you're saying here
00:44:52.900 jeff because this canada is beyond repair right now as far as i'm concerned i think
00:45:00.100 what you're holding out to people is something that they can hope for
00:45:04.480 that we can do something differently because i'm not sure anymore
00:45:07.800 whether we can make this change in confederation
00:45:10.900 that hurts me to say that but it's it's hard for me to believe that anymore
00:45:14.580 no i'm i'm with you 100 i just feel bad for the people of ontario
00:45:19.460 because i don't think you know that you know because of the degree of trump
00:45:23.020 derangement syndrome in ontario the degree to which
00:45:25.620 you know these people have all been co-opted by so much of this nonsense
00:45:29.100 i mean you know that i don't think ontario will
00:45:32.180 the citizens of ontario will ever be free right
00:45:35.020 um you know the rest of us because you know we have provinces where
00:45:38.940 you know we have you know we you know are
00:45:41.500 have relatively cohesive populations we think a lot alike
00:45:45.000 um you know we can you know people of alberta can be
00:45:48.440 um uh inspired into action you know to leave canada
00:45:52.760 um you know at least we have a hope right
00:45:56.200 and i want to you know in the context of what you're just saying
00:45:58.900 i want to read something to you it was a quote that i saw this last week from
00:46:02.000 1938 and it really to me speaks of what mark carney is what bill c5 is all about
00:46:08.140 this idea that you know basically you know carney and all of his cronies
00:46:12.540 you know basically are now positioned to completely loot canada you know in the
00:46:18.500 way that putin and his cronies did and funnel all of our money into their
00:46:21.840 offshore accounts in 1938 someone said fascism should more appropriately be called corporatism
00:46:31.080 because it's a merger of state and corporate power who do you think said that
00:46:36.940 i'll tell you benito mussolini yeah okay yeah it is the very father of fascism
00:46:47.580 right recognizes that at the core of the fascist enterprise right we have a merger of state and
00:46:55.640 corporate power i mean isn't that the mod isn't that the very definition of mark carney's version
00:47:02.480 of the modern liberal party right you know actins realis um uh you know uh pcl construction all of
00:47:11.380 these massive corporations that are on carney's approved list right of corporations that shall
00:47:17.820 be allowed to build the you know major you know the projects of national importance that you know
00:47:23.360 that um uh you know the benito carney has selected for construction in canada right you know that's the
00:47:30.680 country we now live in right so why would you be surprised that your friend's farm is being wiped out
00:47:36.600 when we live in a fascist country why would you be surprised that you know um that um uh chris barber's
00:47:43.360 livelihood is being threatened for you know for standing up to state power when we live in a fascist
00:47:48.560 country right why would any of us be surprised when people who would not surrender their bodily
00:47:54.100 integrity to the state you know by having being having experimental injections forced in their arms
00:48:00.320 not only lost their jobs right but were denied insurance that they paid into unemployment insurance
00:48:07.680 for failing to yield to the state and you know in the favorite word of the liberals everywhere now in
00:48:13.800 canada oh just comply right for failure to comply you don't get unemployment insurance so they make it
00:48:21.040 you know clear to you that if you do not comply and if you do not obey the fascist dictates of the
00:48:28.480 corporate state right that not only will you lose your job in your way of livelihood that all state um
00:48:35.400 uh you know all state support that you've paid into will be denied to you so your choices are either
00:48:41.380 to comply or not be able to provide food for your family that's the canada that we live in right now and
00:48:47.400 it's despicable it's disgusting you know and uh you know as a as an albertan i don't like i said many times
00:48:54.400 on your show i no longer feel that i'm a canadian uh i can't get my province the hell out of that
00:48:59.860 fascist dictatorship called canada soon enough well i think that was an eloquent and very accurate
00:49:06.980 summation of your case jeff and i think that's what a lot of canadians are shaking their head right now
00:49:11.840 wondering if there's a future but running out of time i thank you so much for your you being here
00:49:18.400 again it's always so much to talk about and we'll have you back again soon and let me know
00:49:23.440 when things do happen because you're always welcome here my my uh viewers love you love the
00:49:30.400 discussions we have and i do too so thank you so much for being here jeff it's it's always such a
00:49:36.140 pleasure god bless and and all of your viewers when you go to bed tonight you're saying your prayers
00:49:41.280 please say a prayer for charlie and his family thank you yes thank you jeff bye for now okay bye
00:49:48.400 with jeffrey rass of the alberta prosperity project great guy lawyer fantastic individual
00:49:56.040 fighter for freedom like i say the question of alberta independence i leave that up to you
00:50:01.720 i'm not advocating for either side you can see i'm sympathetic to both sides but i'm increasingly
00:50:08.340 sympathetic to the idea that this canada as it's currently administered doesn't work for average
00:50:15.960 canadians and i'm furious i'm mad i'm absolutely disgusted with how this country and how this
00:50:23.500 province of ontario has treated ordinary blue collar workers like chris barber a truck driver who
00:50:29.980 wanted freedom for his country and he put his job his career and his life on the line for that and i
00:50:37.980 look at people in british columbia who are pushing back against an absurd declaration an absurd
00:50:45.100 government response to an outbreak of avian flu and zoenza might have been an outbreak of avian flu
00:50:53.480 in zoenza last november and these these birds are healthy but the government wants to call them
00:51:00.720 because they don't want to be proven wrong and it's all about another vaccine another health crisis
00:51:09.180 another lockdown and that's what this liberal government and socialist governments from bc to
00:51:15.880 faux conservative governments in ontario they're all united in their basic belief that canadians should
00:51:22.880 be enslaved and that they have an authoritarian impulse that transcends parties at this moment and we need
00:51:30.720 to push back and fight back be right back after this brief word from my store
00:51:38.740 yeah
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00:52:03.120 Thank you.
00:52:33.120 Thanks again for watching, and please have a look at the store.
00:52:48.320 We've got some great merchandise.
00:52:49.320 I'm wearing some of it today.
00:52:51.220 I'm in nobody's pockets.
00:52:52.580 You know that.
00:52:53.640 I'm here to ask questions.
00:52:55.360 I'm here to offend the Times, because that's what a good journalist should do.
00:52:59.280 It should not be completely in anybody's pocket.
00:53:03.120 Always ask the questions you need to, even if they're tough questions and impertinent questions,
00:53:07.340 and they're going to make somebody angry.
00:53:09.320 Ask them anyway.
00:53:10.640 That's the journalism school I went to.
00:53:13.460 Thanks for watching today.
00:53:14.520 I'll be back again tomorrow.
00:53:15.800 And please send a note, email to the Minister of the Environment, Heath McDonald, because we need to do whatever we can to stop this unnecessary killing of 399 ostriches at the Universal Ostrich Farms in British Columbia.
00:53:35.320 We'll be back again tomorrow.
00:53:37.140 God bless to all of you.
00:53:38.640 Godspeed.
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