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Stand on Guard with David Krayden
- September 13, 2025
You'll Never Guess Who Wants Alberta to Separate! | Stand on Guard
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hey happy saturday it's david creighton here from stand on guard broadcasting to you live as i do
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every day from ottawa when we come back we'll talk a bit about what happened yesterday some
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the latest from pier polio and my guest today is jeffrey rath of the alberta prosperity project
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he's got some very very surprising news for us and we'll be back in mere moments thank you for
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watching the prime minister lied and his minions continue to your home is your castle we're calling
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on the government to introduce and immediately pass the stand on guard law so we also need to resolve
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to resist yes please subscribe it's so important you do a lot of people say i should be about double
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is appreciated and next week we're going to be doing sharing more of your comments and super chats
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and rumble rants so it's it's very meaningful thank you for all the support you give this station
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even if it's by word of mouth and every time i go out to an event somebody always comes up and says
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hi david we love your show even when i go to a local store you know people are constantly coming up and
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saying we love your show and it's it's heartening because sometimes you wonder with all this impression
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that people are watching and i realize they are so i want to talk a bit about yesterday and if you
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haven't watched yesterday's broadcast please do it had a big thumb on it actually it looked like
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somebody was sitting on it this was i was the first person out there with the news about what
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happened to the universal ostrich farm federal court of appeal has denied the farm's request
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for their case to be heard by the supreme court this is devastating and of course i was all set to do
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a broadcast last night when i came home from the courtroom and i'll get into that for a second i got this
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text message an email from katie passing passing at the farm saying we just got word and so
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it really really refocused me on on this tragedy i have no other way of explaining it but but what's
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the what i have to say is that yesterday it was sort of a weird combination
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of two events that ordinarily might have nothing in common but because of the liberal governments
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and narco tyranny i use that word completely seriously this is a government that goes after its
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political enemies with a venom and vitriol that it will never have for real criminals because it's
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it's a revolving door for real criminals but if you're an enemy of the regime if they perceive you
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as an enemy of the regime if you speak out against government policy as chris barber here did standing
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in front of big red you could have not only being threatened with eight years in jail but have your
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truck stolen by the provincial government this is bloody outrageous that's why i called it that
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katie pasadena universal ostrich farms you could have 399 ostriches healthy ostriches disease free
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for going almost a year now killed by the federal government because they don't agree with you but and
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they won't even allow you to test your birds and if you do test your birds you get six months in jail
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and two hundred thousand dollar fine for each bird you test isn't that moronic i mean tell me folks
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do you not think that is absolutely stupid but that's what this government and here to here it is again
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this evil combination of doug ford in ontario and mark carney
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both attacking individuals for not towing the line
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and my heart goes out to this farm heart goes out to katie this morning because
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we are doing everything we can to get the word out to people
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to ensure people know about this and i say again
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heath mcdonald is the minister of agriculture it's ultimately
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in his ballpark he could change this decision
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overnight he could he could come up monday and say there's going not going to be a call
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because these birds are highly valuable in terms of research now they had the disease they survived
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what kind of immunity do they have
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it comes down to that government doesn't want to know it rather kill birds than find out anything more
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because hey they don't want you to develop immunity they just want to sell you a vaccine
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because they're in bed with big pharma we all know and it's so obvious
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it's so obvious and it's sad and it's sick
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and i tell you i am sick of it going on and on and on without any end
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so we're expecting uh jeff to uh to come on here shortly
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but i wanted to share this latest
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video here from uh pure paulia and he
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oh yeah before i get there wanted to share this with you because this is incredible
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while we were in the courtroom yesterday
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we hear these this crying this wailing this these horrible sounds emanating
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apparently from the room next door and i'm thinking we're in courtroom number 12 in the
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ontario provincial courthouse
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and i'm saying first of all i thought it was a it was a child
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then i realized it was the judge said well there's a jail there's a cell next door
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and somebody's wailing and crying in misery
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and it sounded literally like a torture chamber
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now i'm not suggesting anybody was being tortured it sounded like that
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but it was chilling chilling absolutely chilling because
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here we are in a courtroom where the government is trying to steal
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chris barber's truck in a vindictive and punitive act
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they're trying to take away his livelihood and we hear what sounds like gestapo headquarters next to us
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it was chilling
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and one of the authorities present said oh it's so distressful for me to hear somebody in distress
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i just and it was almost like she was saying oh if they could just go away and shut up
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because it's bothering me it's in my space
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it was really something else to witness
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and so let's go to uh
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pieropoliev here
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and he i think he gives a very nice tribute to
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mr kirk
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who was assassinated
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this charlie kirk who was assassinated this week
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everyone before i begin
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please allow me to offer my condolences to the families
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uh the family and loved ones of charlie kirk
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the 31 year old father of two
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who was mercilessly assassinated yesterday
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at a university campus
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for having expressed contrary views
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universities are supposed to be places of debate
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where differing opinions can be offered
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uh... and exchanged
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in peace and security
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uh... we must all unite
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regardless of our political views
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around a simple principle
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political violence is never acceptable
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every person should be free to express their opinion
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without fear of violence
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and speaking with uh... about fear of violence
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this house here behind me
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the owner has spent a hundred thousand dollars
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on extra security
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bulletproof windows
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camera systems alarms
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electric fencing
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in certain parts of the home
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i won't get too specific
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because i don't want the bad guys to know exactly
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where and what he's got
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but can you imagine spending a hundred thousand dollars
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do you know before the liberal government
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you could buy a house in some parts of canada
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for under a hundred thousand dollars
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now that's what it costs to secure your house
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crime is raging out of control
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and you heard the stories of the courageous victims behind me today
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telling their stories
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you know i find it incredible that sean frazier
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minister of injustice
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the man who ruined our entire immigration system before
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i have to laugh i use that
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i use that same expression one time to describe
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the minister of justice
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the minister of injustice
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and that's that is so true
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that is so mr carty then promoted him
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to be responsible for the crime crisis
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he said the other day this is not the wild west
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really
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has he talked to these victims
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a woman who's had to leave the country of her birth to live in a
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another nation because she's afraid of her ex tracking her down
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has he talked to the family of alim faruqi the courageous father
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who rose in the middle of the night to defend his kids and lost his life in front of those
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children the three cowardly scumbags who carried out that attack i bet you anything
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they have already been arrested in the past
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you know i had one crime family member of a crime victim the other day say
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sean frazier is right it's not a wild west it's a war zone in some of these communities
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people in these neighborhoods are terrified
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they are genuinely afraid of the crime that is raging in our streets
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and these are not just stories this is not sensationalism
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this is data and facts here's what the facts say
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if you believe statistics canada
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under the liberals catch and release system
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extortions are up 330 percent
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sexual assaults up 76 percent
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violent crime up 55 percent
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homicides up 29 percent
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a majority of canadians told the pollster
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that they worry a lot or worry sometimes about their own personal safety
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a majority of canadians are now afraid to live in canada
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after a decade of these liberal laws
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in toronto residential robberies are up 50 percent
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and we see more than 900 armed robberies
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in the the last two years there the rate of armed robberies is actually doubling
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and the stories are piling up they are horrendous
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we've got the story of james plover he was released while awaiting sentencing three hours after his release
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he brutally murdered bailey mccourt his ex-wife in a parking lot
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just four kilometers
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from the courthouse
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yes and why do i show that because it's another example of the anarcho-tyranny we have
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running this country
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criminals running around scot-free
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people don't feel safe in their homes
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a hundred thousand dollar security system so you can feel safe
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is that what liberal canada has become
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yeah it is and it's become a country
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where a person like chris barber
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has to wait over two years
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to have a judge tell him what he's sentenced to
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and it could include the stealing of his truck
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this to me is just beyond reason
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it's beyond the pale
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but this is how our government works
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we have a government that goes after farmers
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across the country
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they've been doing this for for a decade or more
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but now they're literally walking onto private property
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stealing their livestock and potentially killing it
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this is a shame
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now i want to welcome back
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my good friend and my guest today
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jeffrey rath of the alberta prosperity project
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and we were just talking jeff
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it just seems that news never stops with you
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so nice to have you back
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just before we get into your meeting with
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paul saint-pierre flamedon
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the leader of the bloc hebig
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well this is just fascinating to me
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just wanted your thoughts
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about charlie kirk's death
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and the reaction from the left
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which i found to be
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i shouldn't have
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but i still found it shocking
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oh yeah i mean i don't even know what to say
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i mean i was just in shock this week
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a friend of mine in texas
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actually sent me a video
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i mean i intentionally didn't want to see charlie being murdered
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and uh sent me a video
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of course it's a small little thing on my phone
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and so i thought oh okay
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it's a roping or a cutting
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or you know something to do with horses
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i opened the video
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and it was too late to stop it
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i mean i literally watched you know
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charlie kirk die on my on my iphone
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and you know and i replay
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and i mean i have to say
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i've been in you know
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in kind of a funk all week
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because you know i had a lot of admiration
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for charlie kirk
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and um and i you know
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and i actually wanted to tell this story this morning
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uh charlie kirk is actually
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is responsible to a large degree
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because of his influence
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for all of the success
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the alberta independence movement
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has had this year
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and i you know
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and i wanted your viewers to hear this story
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because it's
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i don't know if people remember this or not
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but you know
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you know app has been working away
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for years and years
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you know like you know
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literally through covet and onward
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you know spreading the message of
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you know prosperity through independence
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you know in alberta
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and then back in march
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i was at this event
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it was actually a covet event
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because again
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you know whether some of your readers
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know this or not
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i'm the only lawyer in canada
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that actually ever succeeded
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in having every single idiotic covet order
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issued in their province
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declared to be illegal
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right
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so i was at a covet event
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and we were talking about covet
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and there's a journalist there
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and i don't know if you know her or not
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she's like you know
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lovely woman
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by the name of rachel parker
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david parker's wife
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and rachel was there
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and we were chatting
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and she goes
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hey jeff
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she says
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you're always working on stuff
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that's really interesting
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she goes
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what are you working on
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besides covet
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and i said
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well rachel
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i said it's really interesting
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that you'd asked me that
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i said
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i'm in the process
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with the
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some people from app
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putting together a delegation
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uh to go down to washington
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to talk about
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what american statehood
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could look like
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or you know
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or what level of support
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there is for
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uh alberta independence
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you know in washington
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she's really
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really
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can i interview you
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and i said
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yeah of course rachel
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you can interview me
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i didn't think anything of it
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right
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so rachel does this
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little two minute
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you know interview
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and she puts a teaser out
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on acts
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well lo and behold
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charlie kirk sees this
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and charlie kirk
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reposted it
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along with his support
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for alberta independence
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then you know
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now that this thing
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is literally
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lit on fire
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it's gone
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massively viral
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um you know
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six million views
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then elon musk
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you know
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tweets
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you know
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or comments
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on charlie's post
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saying that you know
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alberta independence
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is a complete no-brainer
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and that everybody
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needs to support
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alberta independence
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right
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and that's what
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directly led
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to my then
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going on fox news
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and then
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leading to
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um you know
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the access that we have
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and the meetings
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that we're having
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now at the highest levels
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of the trump administration
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with regard to
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u.s. support
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for alberta independence
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that was all thanks
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to charlie kirk
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and the influence
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that he has
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through you know
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has through
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his words
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his message
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his christianity
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you know
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etc
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you know
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charlie kirk
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you know
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when alberta becomes
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an independent country
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you know
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will need to be
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you know
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noted in the history
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of our movement
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you know
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as being directly
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responsible for
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you know
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what i consider
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to be one of
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the most important
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aspects of what
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we're doing
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it's very similar
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to what you know
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what we were doing
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with the party quebecois
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this week
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and monsieur
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and we'll get into
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that a little bit later
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but i mean charlie kirk
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was directly responsible
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for the attention
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that our movement got
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and you know
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the meetings
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that we're now having
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um with the trump
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administration
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at the highest level
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so you know
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needless to say
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when you know
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charlie was murdered
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by that coward
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uh in utah
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you know
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um you know
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i was devastated
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because i'd always
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i'd never met charlie
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but i was always
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hoping to
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and i knew you know
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i knew
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i thought one day
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in my heart of hearts
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that we would
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you know
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because we were
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that we were
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going to cross paths
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and uh
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now i'll never
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have that opportunity
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because his life
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was ended
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you know
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far too early
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by you know
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a coward
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with a you know
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with a rifle
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and you know
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an obvious
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you know
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some form of obvious
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you know
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derangement syndrome
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so anyway
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i just wanted to share
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that with your viewers
00:18:08.060
i mean it's been a
00:18:08.680
i think a very devastating
00:18:09.920
week you know
00:18:10.580
for all of us
00:18:11.300
i mean charlie's losses
00:18:12.340
uh you know
00:18:13.360
is is just huge
00:18:14.880
yeah well i i write
00:18:17.060
for human events
00:18:17.920
where charlie was a
00:18:19.780
uh editorial
00:18:20.580
uh contributor
00:18:22.020
and i as soon as
00:18:24.660
the the event
00:18:25.520
happened i received
00:18:26.420
word on my telegram
00:18:28.400
from human events
00:18:29.320
uh they got
00:18:30.020
they got the word
00:18:30.820
very very quickly
00:18:31.840
and uh we
00:18:32.760
we were all
00:18:33.400
just thinking
00:18:34.220
this can't be
00:18:34.860
happening
00:18:35.260
and then he
00:18:36.140
surely he'll
00:18:36.960
survive
00:18:37.400
and it was just
00:18:39.040
uh devastating
00:18:39.940
of course
00:18:40.540
no
00:18:40.800
and then you know
00:18:41.580
yeah and then
00:18:42.820
to add an insult
00:18:44.100
to injury
00:18:44.540
we have all these
00:18:45.220
cowards and idiots
00:18:46.420
and you know
00:18:47.280
attention whores
00:18:48.320
like rachel gilmore
00:18:49.540
right
00:18:50.140
that you know
00:18:51.280
somehow need to
00:18:52.080
put themselves
00:18:52.700
you know
00:18:53.220
in the middle
00:18:53.900
of you know
00:18:54.520
this story
00:18:55.300
by you know
00:18:56.540
um you know
00:18:57.420
you know
00:18:58.040
alleging some sort
00:18:58.940
of persecution
00:18:59.740
complex
00:19:00.400
because heaven
00:19:01.640
forbid um
00:19:03.180
that anybody
00:19:03.880
criticized them
00:19:05.040
you know
00:19:05.600
for spewing on
00:19:06.900
about right-wing
00:19:07.780
hate and extremism
00:19:09.200
and trying to
00:19:09.780
somehow blame
00:19:10.580
you know
00:19:11.200
anything other
00:19:11.920
than left-wing
00:19:12.680
lunatics
00:19:13.220
and the hateful
00:19:14.720
messages of the
00:19:15.680
left you know
00:19:16.740
for you know
00:19:17.520
the you know
00:19:18.020
the assassination
00:19:18.600
attempts on
00:19:19.500
donald trump
00:19:20.140
a hateful
00:19:20.820
you know
00:19:21.360
this hateful
00:19:21.860
attack on uh
00:19:23.240
uh you know
00:19:23.740
on charlie kirk
00:19:24.760
you know etc
00:19:25.640
i mean you know
00:19:26.500
the good news is
00:19:27.260
i mean some of
00:19:27.760
these people
00:19:28.320
like that idiotic
00:19:29.240
professor in the
00:19:29.920
u of t i understand
00:19:30.920
will hopefully be
00:19:31.640
fired we had a
00:19:32.700
you know a legal
00:19:33.400
aid lawyer in
00:19:34.420
uh vancouver
00:19:36.200
um that was
00:19:37.360
you know that
00:19:38.140
apparently was
00:19:38.780
fired this week
00:19:39.540
for again laughing
00:19:40.840
hysterically over
00:19:42.020
you know the loss
00:19:43.260
of uh you know
00:19:44.360
a great human
00:19:45.180
being a father
00:19:46.240
and you know
00:19:47.080
father and husband
00:19:48.040
and good christian
00:19:49.120
you know they
00:19:49.800
think this is just
00:19:50.580
absolutely hilarious
00:19:51.780
that uh that
00:19:53.100
somebody like charlie
00:19:54.040
could be murdered
00:19:54.740
right you know
00:19:55.920
all of those people
00:19:56.680
i mean i hope
00:19:57.440
that marco rubio
00:19:58.300
follows through
00:19:58.960
and what he
00:19:59.320
was promising
00:20:00.080
you know to
00:20:00.920
put all of
00:20:01.360
those people
00:20:01.800
on you know
00:20:02.360
on the no
00:20:02.820
fly list
00:20:03.420
and when
00:20:04.080
rachel gilmore
00:20:05.100
you know with
00:20:05.880
her expertise
00:20:06.760
and right-wing
00:20:07.600
extremism
00:20:08.480
you know next
00:20:09.320
travels to the
00:20:10.200
united states
00:20:10.920
for whatever
00:20:11.380
reason you
00:20:12.360
know she
00:20:12.640
ends up in
00:20:13.300
cbp detention
00:20:14.400
um you know
00:20:15.400
or an ice
00:20:16.100
detention facility
00:20:17.060
for a month
00:20:18.060
or two while
00:20:18.720
they figure out
00:20:19.400
her case you
00:20:20.480
know before
00:20:21.040
they deport
00:20:21.700
her back to
00:20:22.200
the people's
00:20:22.680
republic of
00:20:23.240
canada
00:20:23.660
yeah yeah
00:20:25.540
i think
00:20:26.160
i think she
00:20:26.960
should be
00:20:27.260
cooling her
00:20:27.700
heels off
00:20:28.300
and
00:20:28.420
for a while
00:20:29.960
there
00:20:30.240
but cbc
00:20:32.080
didn't disappoint
00:20:32.820
me
00:20:33.220
organs like
00:20:34.560
the guardian
00:20:35.140
which is
00:20:35.640
just obscene
00:20:37.040
in some of
00:20:38.000
their reporting
00:20:38.660
about this
00:20:39.520
trying to
00:20:40.400
create a person
00:20:42.380
that never
00:20:42.720
existed in
00:20:43.400
charlie kirk
00:20:43.980
calling him a
00:20:45.520
racist
00:20:45.880
and the
00:20:46.900
usual nonsense
00:20:47.900
but i i am
00:20:50.140
glad there
00:20:50.560
was some
00:20:50.920
pushback even
00:20:51.560
from the
00:20:51.920
left and
00:20:52.420
getting some
00:20:53.420
of these
00:20:53.740
idiots off
00:20:54.600
the air
00:20:55.020
msnbc but
00:20:56.520
tragedy and
00:20:57.980
thank you for
00:20:58.440
sharing that
00:20:58.940
story your
00:20:59.740
connection to
00:21:00.420
charlie kirk
00:21:00.980
and alberta
00:21:01.480
independence i
00:21:02.180
think that's
00:21:02.680
going to
00:21:03.140
fascinate a
00:21:04.460
lot of
00:21:04.740
people but
00:21:05.340
better get
00:21:06.180
on to
00:21:06.580
your meeting
00:21:07.820
with the
00:21:08.660
leader of
00:21:09.040
the party
00:21:09.740
quebec well
00:21:10.300
i was very
00:21:11.100
surprised when
00:21:11.920
you told me
00:21:12.360
this the other
00:21:12.940
day on the
00:21:13.320
phone that
00:21:14.340
you met
00:21:14.680
with uh
00:21:15.400
uh
00:21:16.240
john
00:21:17.460
paul
00:21:18.260
saint-pierre
00:21:19.180
terminal and
00:21:20.760
was it
00:21:21.540
initiated by
00:21:22.300
yourself and
00:21:23.140
or the
00:21:23.560
alberta prosperity
00:21:24.340
project or
00:21:24.900
that's what we
00:21:26.800
found so
00:21:27.780
fascinating about
00:21:28.620
it it was uh
00:21:29.380
uh you know
00:21:30.400
monsieur saint-pierre
00:21:31.320
plamondon's team
00:21:32.320
that reached out
00:21:33.020
to us and
00:21:34.120
asked if we
00:21:34.760
would meet with
00:21:35.440
him while he
00:21:36.080
was in um
00:21:37.160
alberta and
00:21:38.280
of course we
00:21:38.740
took this as
00:21:39.400
you know as
00:21:40.020
a recognition
00:21:40.760
you know at
00:21:41.580
a very high
00:21:42.120
level that
00:21:43.080
you know both
00:21:43.620
you know uh
00:21:44.320
dennis
00:21:44.600
modry um
00:21:46.000
uh mitch
00:21:46.680
sylvester and
00:21:47.360
i you know
00:21:48.140
were recognized
00:21:48.820
across the
00:21:49.540
country as
00:21:50.520
um uh you
00:21:51.760
know as
00:21:52.060
leaders in the
00:21:52.800
alberta independence
00:21:53.700
movement so you
00:21:54.580
know obviously we
00:21:55.160
found you know
00:21:55.900
it very flattering
00:21:56.560
and you know
00:21:57.140
very you know
00:21:57.760
curious um
00:21:58.920
we went through
00:21:59.900
some you know
00:22:01.260
permutations and
00:22:02.240
combinations of
00:22:03.220
how the hell could
00:22:04.160
this back
00:22:04.620
on what we're
00:22:05.980
trying to do
00:22:06.940
but we thought
00:22:07.760
you know what i
00:22:08.340
mean we're an
00:22:08.720
educational society
00:22:10.060
it's our role to
00:22:12.040
educate our fellow
00:22:13.080
albertans on you
00:22:14.720
know either you
00:22:15.240
know the pros and
00:22:15.900
cons of independence
00:22:16.940
good or bad
00:22:17.880
so you know we
00:22:19.220
thought well why
00:22:19.740
not take the
00:22:20.320
meeting if nothing
00:22:21.160
else it's going to
00:22:21.840
be fascinating
00:22:22.560
and oh my god it
00:22:24.400
did not disappoint
00:22:25.500
our meeting we
00:22:26.380
had a four and a
00:22:27.260
half hour meeting
00:22:28.480
with monsieur
00:22:29.200
plomondon and his
00:22:31.400
team um discussing
00:22:33.180
a wide range of
00:22:35.040
topics and um uh
00:22:37.760
and quite frankly
00:22:38.780
gave us an
00:22:39.480
absolutely new um
00:22:41.700
uh view of where
00:22:44.680
quebec was coming
00:22:45.580
from on a lot of
00:22:46.860
these issues and
00:22:48.020
on independence and
00:22:49.380
quite frankly um
00:22:50.980
demonstrated to us
00:22:52.120
that we have far
00:22:53.300
more in common
00:22:54.160
with the you know
00:22:55.300
the pay kiss you
00:22:56.340
know the pq in
00:22:57.280
quebec than we
00:22:58.420
have with wannabe
00:22:59.420
federal federalist
00:23:00.740
prime ministers like
00:23:01.660
pierre poiliev who
00:23:03.180
wants to continue to
00:23:04.740
hold alberta transfer
00:23:05.960
payments and um uh
00:23:08.700
supply management as
00:23:10.700
mechanisms to
00:23:11.760
continually bribe um
00:23:14.080
politicians in
00:23:15.180
quebec and bribe
00:23:16.540
the you know the
00:23:17.140
people of quebec you
00:23:18.560
know into continuing
00:23:19.480
to support you know
00:23:20.820
one failed corrupt
00:23:22.220
federalist government
00:23:23.420
after another after
00:23:24.520
another right and
00:23:26.300
i'll stop you there
00:23:27.600
because this is what
00:23:28.480
really fascinated me
00:23:29.560
from our conversation
00:23:30.580
is that we have a
00:23:31.960
conservative leader
00:23:33.160
in pierre poiliev who
00:23:33.980
wants to continue
00:23:34.820
equalization forever
00:23:36.140
no chance of it ever
00:23:38.240
ending he's never even
00:23:39.260
considered that but
00:23:40.540
the leader of the
00:23:41.400
party quebec well
00:23:42.180
potentially the next
00:23:43.220
premier of that
00:23:44.600
province because the
00:23:45.880
cock is way down on
00:23:46.800
the pole he's prepared
00:23:48.240
to see equalization in
00:23:50.320
that's just amazing
00:23:51.220
absolutely and one of
00:23:51.940
the one of the
00:23:52.440
interesting things was
00:23:53.380
and we never realized
00:23:54.280
or we didn't never
00:23:54.900
had seen this document
00:23:55.920
but um this was
00:23:58.000
shared with us by uh
00:23:59.600
you know monsieur
00:24:00.120
plamondon at our
00:24:01.160
at our meeting right
00:24:02.360
and uh unbeknownst to
00:24:04.440
us at the you know
00:24:05.260
on the app um in
00:24:07.200
2023 they did a
00:24:09.300
document very similar
00:24:10.580
to the value of
00:24:11.560
freedom right where
00:24:13.100
they literally ran all
00:24:14.640
of the numbers and
00:24:15.300
had all the
00:24:15.660
economists go through
00:24:18.480
what an independent
00:24:20.280
quebec would look
00:24:21.340
like right and they
00:24:22.800
factored in the fact
00:24:23.960
that they were going
00:24:24.440
to be losing 15
00:24:25.420
billion dollars a
00:24:26.300
year 13 billion
00:24:27.180
dollars a year
00:24:27.700
probably in 2023 um
00:24:29.460
uh of equalization
00:24:31.160
payments and the
00:24:32.520
conclusion that they
00:24:33.500
came to right was
00:24:35.280
that quebec is more
00:24:36.900
than capable of
00:24:37.860
standing on its own
00:24:38.780
two feet without
00:24:39.620
equalization so ask
00:24:41.660
us why they're getting
00:24:42.460
any now if um there's
00:24:44.240
a document that exists
00:24:45.220
from an economic
00:24:45.900
perspective that says
00:24:47.240
that quebec doesn't
00:24:48.060
need equalization
00:24:49.320
right um but they
00:24:51.200
realized that without
00:24:52.180
um uh that if they
00:24:54.140
were able to
00:24:54.980
completely throw
00:24:55.880
ottawa out of their
00:24:56.900
affairs get rid of
00:24:58.240
all levels of federal
00:24:59.880
regulation in quebec
00:25:01.140
get rid of all levels
00:25:03.000
of federal taxation in
00:25:04.780
quebec and have the
00:25:05.900
government of quebec
00:25:06.860
with the fiscal
00:25:07.540
capacity to collect
00:25:09.060
all the taxes
00:25:09.760
collected by ottawa
00:25:10.800
and keep them in
00:25:11.980
quebec for the
00:25:12.640
benefit of people
00:25:14.920
right that quebec
00:25:16.700
could run surplus
00:25:17.580
budgets and stand
00:25:18.800
alone um uh
00:25:20.960
outside of canada
00:25:22.680
and then what you
00:25:23.780
know what i thought
00:25:24.500
was really fascinating
00:25:25.740
and for me it's you
00:25:26.920
know as a you know
00:25:27.560
somebody with an
00:25:28.020
honors degree in
00:25:28.680
political science and
00:25:29.620
an honors degree in
00:25:30.700
law from the london
00:25:31.400
school of economics
00:25:32.100
i've always been very
00:25:33.720
interested in public
00:25:34.620
policy and the
00:25:35.400
drivers of public
00:25:36.260
policy and and
00:25:37.500
whatever so i flat
00:25:38.260
out asked you know
00:25:39.120
monsieur um you
00:25:40.820
know what um they
00:25:42.420
saw as the benefits
00:25:43.420
he says oh we think
00:25:44.220
getting rid of
00:25:44.700
transfer payments will
00:25:45.520
be very beneficial for
00:25:46.860
quebec and i said
00:25:48.220
well you know um
00:25:49.420
paul i said what
00:25:50.380
you know what do you
00:25:51.160
think is so
00:25:51.700
beneficial about
00:25:52.400
getting rid of
00:25:52.820
transfer payments
00:25:53.400
this fascinates me
00:25:54.280
and he said well
00:25:55.340
jeff he says you
00:25:57.000
have no idea the
00:25:58.160
degree of corruption
00:25:59.680
right is injected
00:26:01.740
into quebec politics
00:26:03.960
with liberal
00:26:05.100
politicians having
00:26:06.260
access to a 15
00:26:08.020
billion dollar a
00:26:09.100
year bribery fund
00:26:10.400
with which they can
00:26:11.800
influence and change
00:26:13.500
the outcome of
00:26:14.440
politics in quebec
00:26:15.400
right it was
00:26:16.920
fascinating to me it
00:26:17.920
was almost an
00:26:18.360
epiphany
00:26:18.820
well that's that's
00:26:21.280
absolutely amazing
00:26:22.280
and did you discuss
00:26:23.340
pipelines at all
00:26:24.240
would he be a
00:26:24.840
pipeline i'll come to
00:26:27.220
that in a second
00:26:28.020
but i want to
00:26:28.540
finish this yeah
00:26:29.080
i'm trying for a
00:26:30.360
change to actually
00:26:31.040
give you a chance to
00:26:31.860
talk and ask
00:26:32.460
questions well thank
00:26:34.560
you sorry but
00:26:36.940
anyway the other
00:26:37.520
thing that he said
00:26:38.580
about transfer payments
00:26:39.620
i thought was really
00:26:40.560
fascinating and it
00:26:41.340
had something to do
00:26:42.100
with uh you know
00:26:43.060
monsieur plamondon's
00:26:44.080
background right and
00:26:45.460
what i found was
00:26:46.220
really interesting is
00:26:47.000
that he and i had a
00:26:47.900
lot of um you know
00:26:49.200
things in common as
00:26:50.140
professionals right so
00:26:51.720
um you know he was
00:26:53.320
trained as a lawyer at
00:26:54.380
mcgill i was trained
00:26:55.120
as a lawyer at the
00:26:56.240
london school of
00:26:56.740
economics
00:26:57.160
in england he did
00:26:58.020
an mba at oxford so
00:26:59.340
we both had that um
00:27:00.500
you know that england
00:27:01.380
you know that english
00:27:02.320
um uh university
00:27:04.320
experience right and
00:27:05.780
then he started out as
00:27:06.900
a litigator um in the
00:27:08.700
litigation department
00:27:09.720
of psychman elliott in
00:27:10.840
montreal i started out
00:27:12.460
as a litigator at a
00:27:13.320
big liberal law firm in
00:27:14.420
downtown calgary called
00:27:15.640
burnett duckworth and
00:27:16.420
palmer okay so but
00:27:18.720
what pierre uh what
00:27:20.040
said pierre plamondon
00:27:21.880
told us was that what
00:27:23.540
actually made him a
00:27:24.940
paquist right or you
00:27:26.860
know um and drove him
00:27:28.260
towards independence
00:27:29.080
was as a young lawyer
00:27:30.920
he was involved in um
00:27:34.220
uh working on the
00:27:36.460
psychman elliott file on
00:27:37.900
ad scam on the on the
00:27:39.620
um uh um uh you know on
00:27:42.100
that big liberal scandal
00:27:43.880
where yeah go ahead
00:27:45.140
no i i know the one
00:27:47.560
you're talking about yes
00:27:48.360
yeah yeah yeah so we're
00:27:49.900
literally you know
00:27:50.620
peltier is you know
00:27:52.140
peltier's right-hand man
00:27:53.420
and chuck and all these
00:27:55.020
people right were
00:27:56.140
literally given hundreds
00:27:57.360
of millions of taxpayer
00:27:59.420
dollars by jean
00:28:00.520
peltier to go into
00:28:02.320
quebec and bribe people
00:28:04.100
by giving them piles of
00:28:06.440
money um to influence the
00:28:08.680
outcome of the 1995
00:28:09.840
referendum and what you
00:28:11.700
know plamondon said was
00:28:12.720
mr plamondon said was
00:28:13.840
that you know in being
00:28:15.080
like up close and
00:28:16.180
personal and seeing this
00:28:17.660
and then seeing the
00:28:18.800
degree to which all of
00:28:20.180
this criminality and he
00:28:21.380
said outright criminality
00:28:22.820
was covered up by um you
00:28:25.900
know the the subsequent
00:28:27.120
um uh government commission
00:28:29.280
and by the liberal
00:28:30.080
government he was so
00:28:31.780
disgusted with the level
00:28:33.680
of corruption and um
00:28:35.980
criminality in our federal
00:28:37.640
liberal uh the system
00:28:39.460
that he at that point
00:28:41.100
became sworn to uh uh
00:28:43.780
quebec sovereignty and
00:28:45.140
independence so i thought
00:28:46.060
that was fascinating
00:28:47.160
well no no doubt and
00:28:50.500
i'm i'm very surprised
00:28:51.640
he has that that
00:28:52.900
background i had no
00:28:53.840
idea that he studied
00:28:55.500
over in in england but
00:28:56.820
so if we could get to
00:28:58.400
the pipeline how was his
00:29:01.280
reaction to a pipeline
00:29:02.360
going through the
00:29:03.420
province of quebec since
00:29:04.380
the province of quebec is
00:29:05.360
so adverse to that right
00:29:06.380
now well the interesting
00:29:07.880
thing was he's you know
00:29:08.940
he's flat out averse to
00:29:10.020
it so the you know the
00:29:11.400
pq is not going to change
00:29:12.540
their policies on alberta
00:29:13.560
pipelines and he said
00:29:14.800
look you know the way we
00:29:15.640
look at it is why
00:29:17.500
would we let you know
00:29:18.580
and he called it a
00:29:19.260
tunnel have a little
00:29:20.080
tunnel underground you
00:29:21.800
know go across our
00:29:22.700
territory that all it's
00:29:23.880
going to do is create you
00:29:25.520
know a couple thousand
00:29:26.260
jobs you know for on the
00:29:27.760
short term you know while
00:29:28.840
it's being constructed and
00:29:30.400
then afterward doesn't do
00:29:31.860
anything for us right
00:29:33.800
other than the potential
00:29:35.980
risk of rupture and you
00:29:38.000
know oil polluting farmland
00:29:39.640
farmland and you know
00:29:41.160
natural habitats in quebec he
00:29:43.320
just doesn't think the
00:29:44.360
cost value the cost
00:29:45.580
benefit proposition you
00:29:47.540
know is high enough you
00:29:48.620
know the other thing that
00:29:49.380
we were talking about and
00:29:50.300
that he noted he said
00:29:51.580
like it's really a
00:29:52.320
pipeline to nowhere right
00:29:53.640
because there aren't
00:29:54.400
there aren't refineries in
00:29:56.660
quebec that can handle
00:29:57.760
alberta crude there aren't
00:29:58.880
refineries in nova scotia
00:30:00.700
or new brunswick that can
00:30:01.600
handle alberta crude
00:30:02.460
they're all set up to deal
00:30:03.940
with you know light sweet
00:30:06.220
saudi crude right and he
00:30:08.400
said you know really he
00:30:09.200
said alberta you're way
00:30:10.120
better off um you know if
00:30:12.080
you simply declare you
00:30:13.920
know um uh independence
00:30:15.700
from canada and without
00:30:17.200
canada interfering in the
00:30:19.220
your international relations
00:30:20.900
with the united states
00:30:22.280
right you can have as many
00:30:23.860
pipelines as you want to
00:30:25.200
the gulf coast um you
00:30:27.020
know through idaho and
00:30:28.280
um washington state to the
00:30:30.180
port of seattle you know
00:30:31.660
whatever it is right and
00:30:33.560
you know so i thought that
00:30:34.500
was you know that was that
00:30:35.580
was interesting and let's
00:30:36.660
face it i mean that whole
00:30:37.560
energy east pipeline again
00:30:38.860
you know sort of a
00:30:39.480
pipeline to nowhere you
00:30:40.840
know just like this idea
00:30:41.760
of building facilities on
00:30:43.760
you know on uh hudson's
00:30:45.220
bay where things are going
00:30:46.660
to be frozen in for three
00:30:47.900
or four months of the year
00:30:48.880
right i understand now that
00:30:50.180
they're talking about
00:30:50.720
building icebreakers but
00:30:51.880
good luck how many years is
00:30:53.480
that going to take right
00:30:54.640
who in europe would want
00:30:55.940
to buy lng from churchill
00:30:57.560
when your gas supply could
00:30:59.680
go not just be reduced but
00:31:01.120
reduced to zero for three
00:31:03.060
or four months of the year um
00:31:04.760
you know on the whim of a
00:31:06.600
canadian northern winter
00:31:07.580
right so we have all of
00:31:09.400
these stupid projects that
00:31:10.680
make no sense economically
00:31:12.020
when alberta's real interest
00:31:14.720
is in vastly increasing um
00:31:18.640
our economic ties to the
00:31:20.380
united states so i was you
00:31:22.260
know this morning i'm you
00:31:23.280
know a little bit tired
00:31:23.980
because i drove six hours
00:31:26.340
there and back last night to
00:31:27.780
an app event in foremost
00:31:29.320
alberta right but one of our
00:31:31.400
speakers last night in foremost
00:31:33.060
was talking about um uh an
00:31:35.620
economist was talking about
00:31:37.080
um alberta exports and alberta
00:31:39.960
gdp and how much alberta
00:31:41.640
exports i was shocked by the
00:31:43.380
statistic this one statistic
00:31:44.720
that he provided okay do you
00:31:46.900
realize that ninety percent
00:31:49.720
nine zero percent of all of
00:31:52.340
alberta's exports go directly
00:31:54.520
south to the united states we only
00:31:57.280
export ten percent of our goods
00:31:59.780
to the rest of canada okay so
00:32:02.180
think about that from an
00:32:03.340
independence perspective and
00:32:05.020
think about what we get with you
00:32:06.440
know two more pipelines to the
00:32:07.840
gulf coast um the you know the
00:32:09.940
the conclusion of keystone xl or
00:32:12.280
another pipeline um you know like
00:32:14.520
keystone xl straight down through
00:32:17.080
montana to the gulf coast right
00:32:18.680
um all we have to do is increase
00:32:22.480
alberta's exports to the u.s by
00:32:25.260
ten percent and alberta doesn't
00:32:27.680
need canada at all right think
00:32:30.540
about that like we don't need
00:32:32.140
canada canada needs alberta but
00:32:34.420
every time you get kicked in the
00:32:35.820
teeth by you know by various
00:32:37.900
regimes in ottawa it seems that
00:32:39.840
they forget that you know that
00:32:41.420
they need us a hell of a lot more
00:32:43.560
than we need them
00:32:44.560
i think that's that's clearly
00:32:48.640
evident it's self-evident sounds
00:32:50.860
like plamed on saying though that
00:32:52.540
a pipeline through quebec only
00:32:54.700
makes sense in every aspect of
00:32:57.380
that word if alberta remains in
00:33:00.840
confederation if alberta is
00:33:02.960
independent why do you need the
00:33:05.560
pipelines for quebec because you
00:33:06.920
can then go anywhere else in north
00:33:09.380
america with a pipeline right
00:33:11.000
you know and i don't want to i
00:33:13.520
don't want to get him in trouble
00:33:14.660
with his electorate um you know
00:33:16.380
because i think you know they met
00:33:17.600
with us in good faith and it was a
00:33:19.520
really really interesting meeting
00:33:20.920
and we want to have many more of
00:33:22.400
them right because we think that
00:33:23.520
there's really a lot of natural
00:33:25.200
alliances between the alberta
00:33:27.320
independence movement and you know
00:33:29.120
and the peltique quebecois and the
00:33:30.440
independence movement of quebec
00:33:31.620
right um and i'll come to one of the
00:33:33.680
big ones here you know in a minute
00:33:35.100
but uh you know what you know
00:33:37.120
monsieur plamondon was indicating
00:33:38.540
is that you know that you know that
00:33:40.140
voters in quebec are a lot more
00:33:41.760
gallic you know or latin in nature
00:33:44.420
they're a lot more emotionally driven
00:33:46.660
so you know they've been a lot more
00:33:48.800
and this these aren't his words these
00:33:50.140
are my words right so you know
00:33:52.360
there i think you know they've been
00:33:54.200
a lot more susceptible to various
00:33:56.760
forms of derangement syndrome right
00:33:58.760
whether it's trump derangement syndrome
00:34:00.840
or climate change derangement syndrome
00:34:03.720
i mean you know that you know our
00:34:05.300
benighted uh chief justice of the
00:34:07.380
supreme court of canada uh you know
00:34:09.400
justice vognard de quebec right um you
00:34:12.440
know has said in writing in a majority
00:34:14.540
decision on or not a majority decision
00:34:16.520
in the decision on climate change
00:34:17.720
that oh because you know climate
00:34:20.540
change is an existential threat to the
00:34:22.660
world it's an existential threat to
00:34:24.800
canada and because it's an
00:34:26.620
existential threat we can suspend you
00:34:29.380
know the strict interpretation of
00:34:31.480
division of powers under 92 you know
00:34:34.260
whatever blah blah blah and because
00:34:36.220
it's an emergency you know will let
00:34:38.420
liberals interfere with um you know
00:34:40.820
resource development in provinces which
00:34:43.020
are 100 percent within the sole
00:34:45.000
jurisdiction of the provinces right you
00:34:47.120
know on this notion of you know
00:34:48.800
climate hysteria right and i guess you
00:34:50.980
know what monsieur pilmandan was
00:34:52.020
indicating to us without saying it
00:34:53.940
because he's obviously a lot more
00:34:55.200
polite and needs to be a lot more
00:34:56.540
concerned about his electorate is that
00:34:58.300
climate hysteria in quebec is so
00:35:00.260
strong that even when quebec becomes
00:35:03.100
independent you know they're not going
00:35:04.920
to replace the 15 billion dollars
00:35:06.940
they're using in alberta transfer
00:35:08.320
payments by developing the massive
00:35:10.860
shale gas fields that they have in
00:35:13.520
quebec that could easily replace um you
00:35:16.740
know create massive economic
00:35:18.200
development in quebec and easily
00:35:20.240
replace the uh what they have lost in
00:35:23.280
transfer payments from alberta right but
00:35:24.960
it's a non-starter because of the
00:35:26.380
climate hysteria in quebec and the
00:35:28.920
degree to which liberal propaganda paid
00:35:31.640
for with alberta dollars again you know
00:35:33.940
has penetrated that electric and that
00:35:36.760
they're literally you know unfortunately i
00:35:38.400
don't think there's a french translation
00:35:40.140
of chicken little but they all believe
00:35:42.140
that the sky is falling and that you
00:35:44.380
know that somehow or other we're all
00:35:46.440
going to die you know of climate change
00:35:49.300
within the next 12 years and the
00:35:51.040
planet's going to cease to operate as a
00:35:53.220
planet because we've crossed this
00:35:55.060
magical line of 440 parts per million
00:35:57.680
of co2 in the atmosphere well i guess
00:36:00.120
that sounds slightly problematic to me
00:36:03.080
because albertans are much more socially
00:36:05.840
conservative and economically conservative
00:36:08.520
than people in quebec are you not
00:36:11.020
expecting some pushback from people who
00:36:13.160
say why are you hobnobbing with the
00:36:15.220
party quebecois why do you see we have
00:36:18.460
something so much in common with quebec
00:36:20.760
when these are people who are very very
00:36:23.420
different let's let's be clear on that
00:36:25.660
right we don't as a people we don't have
00:36:28.560
you know we're not very similar we have
00:36:30.600
very unique cultures right and then we
00:36:32.800
talked about that as well right so you
00:36:34.900
know was you know was explaining to us
00:36:37.300
you know and it's something we all know
00:36:38.660
and see from observe you know being
00:36:40.480
outside observers right that you know
00:36:42.820
quebec is much more socialist than
00:36:45.380
alberta they call it social democratic
00:36:47.280
but let's call it what it is it's much
00:36:48.540
more socialistic than alberta they don't
00:36:51.220
see themselves as individuals with
00:36:53.220
individual rights they see themselves as
00:36:55.640
a collective right they you know kind of
00:36:57.740
this hive of you know buzzing little
00:36:59.900
you know francophones in the middle of
00:37:01.960
you know north american uh um you know
00:37:04.720
you know north you know fortress north
00:37:06.380
america kind of thing um you know so on
00:37:09.420
that aspect we're very different but the
00:37:11.760
one big thing we have in common is that we
00:37:14.960
completely agree that ottawa as a level of
00:37:18.800
government and federalist politicians are
00:37:21.560
completely unnecessary to the welfare and
00:37:24.520
well-being of our citizens right um which i you
00:37:28.280
know which i think that's all we need to
00:37:29.780
have in common and on that basis right you
00:37:32.680
know monsieur plumondon has assured us
00:37:34.960
and pledged to us and this was confirmed in
00:37:36.660
the national post right that the minute
00:37:39.320
alberta has a successful referendum we
00:37:42.060
vote yes um to the question do you agree
00:37:45.080
that alberta shall become a sovereign
00:37:46.500
country and cease to be a province of
00:37:48.180
canada the government of quebec under
00:37:50.840
monsieur plumondon which you know will
00:37:52.700
likely happen in the fall of 2026
00:37:54.700
right will immediately recognize alberta as
00:37:58.560
an independent country right no clarity
00:38:01.460
act negotiations required they will
00:38:03.740
recognize us as an independent country
00:38:05.980
knowing full well that when monsieur plumondon
00:38:09.340
succeeds in having successful referendum in
00:38:11.960
his first mandate which is his promise to the
00:38:14.060
people of quebec that you know the
00:38:15.980
independent government of alberta will
00:38:17.640
reciprocate and also extend you know at that
00:38:21.340
point international recognition uh you know
00:38:23.860
to the independent government of quebec um to
00:38:26.940
the country of quebec right so we see that
00:38:29.780
this is a fundamental shift right in the
00:38:32.940
constitutional order of canada right like
00:38:35.780
think about that even if we're messing
00:38:37.460
around with the stupid um you know clarity
00:38:40.460
act definitions that some people say apply
00:38:42.520
to independence we now have the one
00:38:45.600
province in canada that everybody says has a
00:38:48.300
veto you know over constitutional change
00:38:50.960
quebec that's going to be directly on board
00:38:54.160
and supporting alberta independence on a going
00:38:56.960
forward basis right okay i'm i'm i'm seeing
00:39:00.660
this because if what you're saying here if i'm
00:39:03.000
understanding is if if the only thing you have
00:39:05.660
in common with quebec is a desire to be
00:39:08.100
independent from canada that's really all you
00:39:10.660
need from quebec no they're not going to tell
00:39:12.660
you how to govern yourself the other thing that
00:39:14.740
we agreed upon right or we agree on is that
00:39:17.660
we have the utmost respect for democracy
00:39:20.740
right and you know if the people of quebec want
00:39:24.180
to be governed that way and they see themselves as
00:39:26.200
this socialist collective hive right um and they
00:39:30.080
want to vote that way and they want to vote to
00:39:32.080
reaffirm through their own constitution that
00:39:34.060
there's some sort of you know socialist collective
00:39:36.120
hive right well that's for them to decide that's
00:39:39.120
not for us to decide it's not for the people of
00:39:41.200
alberta to say oh you can't organize yourselves
00:39:43.640
that way at that point it's none of our you know gd
00:39:46.440
business you know it's none of our business how
00:39:48.280
they want to organize themselves democratically but
00:39:50.620
what i did find you know very interesting was that
00:39:52.840
you know monsieur and the pq uh share a lot of
00:39:56.900
our ideas with regard to what's going to become the
00:39:59.760
new alberta interim constitution and you know
00:40:02.740
within the next couple weeks we're actually going to
00:40:04.160
be sharing our draft alberta constitution um you
00:40:07.860
know with the pq in quebec because of course one of
00:40:10.820
the aspects of um the constitution that we're
00:40:14.020
developing is it's kind of a melding of the
00:40:16.840
swiss and american models you know where you have the
00:40:19.780
checks and balances of the american system but we set a
00:40:23.780
very very low bar um for citizens to be able to vote to
00:40:29.260
remove legislators to remove senators to remove the chief
00:40:32.880
executive to remove you know officials that they believe are
00:40:36.660
acting corruptly or inappropriately um you know and a
00:40:39.960
very low bar um you know for citizens to you know veto legislation
00:40:44.340
um and budgets deficit spending you know all of those things right and we
00:40:51.180
thought we found it really interesting that
00:40:52.880
you know that the pq feel very much the same way that we do in this regard and
00:40:57.220
want to have much more citizen participation
00:40:59.540
in quebec you know to keep the corruption
00:41:03.000
of the present westminster system out of governance
00:41:06.580
right but you know and then we have this conversation where they they said oh
00:41:10.440
yeah you know we really like this and we like the direct democracy from the
00:41:13.780
you know from the uh from the swiss system but then we get criticized in quebec as
00:41:18.400
the pq for being oh you're referendum crazy you're referendum crazy right
00:41:23.100
so i helpfully said you know i i would i just own that i look him straight in the eye
00:41:28.560
and it's like no we're not referendum crazy we're democracy crazy like we
00:41:32.400
believe that the people should have their say and not live in a functional five-year
00:41:37.620
dictatorship from election to election which as we know in canada when we look
00:41:42.540
at everything going on with the liberals right now
00:41:44.560
is completely rife with corruption like you know let's i'd love to know how
00:41:50.660
since trudeau's announcement of his electric choo-choo train running from
00:41:55.000
toronto to montreal right um you know without parliament without
00:42:00.040
consultation with the people of canada without telling albertans that we're
00:42:04.680
going to pay for it you know etc etc i want to know how the hell they managed
00:42:08.840
to spend five billion dollars on that project so far
00:42:11.820
and i'll tell you how they've done i'll tell you how they've done it
00:42:15.440
right it's through all the normal liberal graft and corruption
00:42:19.420
where all of the you know liberals line up and in this case
00:42:22.820
you know it's good old smc lavalon remember that company that
00:42:26.280
you know used to hire they used to hire prostitutes to hire you know to get
00:42:30.380
government contracts well they've now changed their name and i love this to
00:42:33.680
atkins borealis and doing their past practice hiring prostitutes to get
00:42:38.760
contracts i thought it was really fitting that their new name sounds like a
00:42:42.020
venereal disease oh i've got a bad taste of atkins realis right
00:42:46.760
and i mean that's what's going on here right so atkins realis i'm sure is already
00:42:52.500
raked in hundreds of millions of dollars i'm sure that other you know liberal
00:42:56.380
affiliated firms have raked in millions and millions of dollars
00:42:59.260
and the liberals don't care it's just like the bug plant the battery plants
00:43:03.800
the hype so-called hydrogen plants right they don't care if these projects ever
00:43:07.840
succeed as long as all of their liberal
00:43:10.400
clients get paid up front out of our money right on all of these stupid schemes
00:43:16.960
that's how the system's supposed to work well it's a big money that's the
00:43:21.220
corporate the crony capitalism that mark carney has
00:43:24.920
profited off his entire career and he continues to do that but
00:43:28.960
i i wanted to mention before i forget i think yesterday was a watershed day
00:43:34.420
in in canadian history because in the same day
00:43:38.340
i sat through a hearing a sentencing hearing
00:43:41.700
for a truck now it's incredible to me but chris barber of course of the freedom
00:43:46.500
convoy is in danger of having his truck stolen
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by the ontario government of doug ford and i watched these these lawyers for the
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crown prosecution show pictures of of chris with his
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family at the with with tamara leach and
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while they were showing these lovely pictures they were talking about how
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they're going to put this man out of business forever
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take his take his truck take his livelihood away
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and when i came home that afternoon
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i got it i got a text from my friend at the ostrich farm in in british columbia
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and katie pass and they told me that the federal court of appeal
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has denied their appeal to stop the government from killing
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399 ostriches for absolutely no reason
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and i thought this is the canada i live in today
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they persecute farmers they persecute truckers
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they're punitive they're mean they're desperate and they will go after people
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in the most visceral horrible ways
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and it's all about violating people's basic human rights
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and i think yesterday does a lot for what you're saying here
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jeff because this canada is beyond repair right now as far as i'm concerned i think
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what you're holding out to people is something that they can hope for
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that we can do something differently because i'm not sure anymore
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whether we can make this change in confederation
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that hurts me to say that but it's it's hard for me to believe that anymore
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no i'm i'm with you 100 i just feel bad for the people of ontario
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because i don't think you know that you know because of the degree of trump
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derangement syndrome in ontario the degree to which
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you know these people have all been co-opted by so much of this nonsense
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i mean you know that i don't think ontario will
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the citizens of ontario will ever be free right
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um you know the rest of us because you know we have provinces where
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you know we have you know we you know are
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have relatively cohesive populations we think a lot alike
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um you know we can you know people of alberta can be
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um uh inspired into action you know to leave canada
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um you know at least we have a hope right
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and i want to you know in the context of what you're just saying
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i want to read something to you it was a quote that i saw this last week from
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1938 and it really to me speaks of what mark carney is what bill c5 is all about
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this idea that you know basically you know carney and all of his cronies
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you know basically are now positioned to completely loot canada you know in the
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way that putin and his cronies did and funnel all of our money into their
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offshore accounts in 1938 someone said fascism should more appropriately be called corporatism
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because it's a merger of state and corporate power who do you think said that
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i'll tell you benito mussolini yeah okay yeah it is the very father of fascism
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right recognizes that at the core of the fascist enterprise right we have a merger of state and
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corporate power i mean isn't that the mod isn't that the very definition of mark carney's version
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of the modern liberal party right you know actins realis um uh you know uh pcl construction all of
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these massive corporations that are on carney's approved list right of corporations that shall
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be allowed to build the you know major you know the projects of national importance that you know
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that um uh you know the benito carney has selected for construction in canada right you know that's the
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country we now live in right so why would you be surprised that your friend's farm is being wiped out
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when we live in a fascist country why would you be surprised that you know um that um uh chris barber's
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livelihood is being threatened for you know for standing up to state power when we live in a fascist
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country right why would any of us be surprised when people who would not surrender their bodily
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integrity to the state you know by having being having experimental injections forced in their arms
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not only lost their jobs right but were denied insurance that they paid into unemployment insurance
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for failing to yield to the state and you know in the favorite word of the liberals everywhere now in
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canada oh just comply right for failure to comply you don't get unemployment insurance so they make it
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you know clear to you that if you do not comply and if you do not obey the fascist dictates of the
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corporate state right that not only will you lose your job in your way of livelihood that all state um
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uh you know all state support that you've paid into will be denied to you so your choices are either
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to comply or not be able to provide food for your family that's the canada that we live in right now and
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it's despicable it's disgusting you know and uh you know as a as an albertan i don't like i said many times
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on your show i no longer feel that i'm a canadian uh i can't get my province the hell out of that
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fascist dictatorship called canada soon enough well i think that was an eloquent and very accurate
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summation of your case jeff and i think that's what a lot of canadians are shaking their head right now
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wondering if there's a future but running out of time i thank you so much for your you being here
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again it's always so much to talk about and we'll have you back again soon and let me know
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when things do happen because you're always welcome here my my uh viewers love you love the
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discussions we have and i do too so thank you so much for being here jeff it's it's always such a
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pleasure god bless and and all of your viewers when you go to bed tonight you're saying your prayers
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please say a prayer for charlie and his family thank you yes thank you jeff bye for now okay bye
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with jeffrey rass of the alberta prosperity project great guy lawyer fantastic individual
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fighter for freedom like i say the question of alberta independence i leave that up to you
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i'm not advocating for either side you can see i'm sympathetic to both sides but i'm increasingly
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sympathetic to the idea that this canada as it's currently administered doesn't work for average
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canadians and i'm furious i'm mad i'm absolutely disgusted with how this country and how this
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province of ontario has treated ordinary blue collar workers like chris barber a truck driver who
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wanted freedom for his country and he put his job his career and his life on the line for that and i
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look at people in british columbia who are pushing back against an absurd declaration an absurd
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government response to an outbreak of avian flu and zoenza might have been an outbreak of avian flu
00:50:53.480
in zoenza last november and these these birds are healthy but the government wants to call them
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because they don't want to be proven wrong and it's all about another vaccine another health crisis
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another lockdown and that's what this liberal government and socialist governments from bc to
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faux conservative governments in ontario they're all united in their basic belief that canadians should
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be enslaved and that they have an authoritarian impulse that transcends parties at this moment and we need
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to push back and fight back be right back after this brief word from my store
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yeah
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yeah
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yeah
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yeah
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yeah
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yeah
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Thank you.
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Thanks again for watching, and please have a look at the store.
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We've got some great merchandise.
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I'm wearing some of it today.
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I'm in nobody's pockets.
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You know that.
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I'm here to ask questions.
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I'm here to offend the Times, because that's what a good journalist should do.
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It should not be completely in anybody's pocket.
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Always ask the questions you need to, even if they're tough questions and impertinent questions,
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and they're going to make somebody angry.
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Ask them anyway.
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That's the journalism school I went to.
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Thanks for watching today.
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I'll be back again tomorrow.
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And please send a note, email to the Minister of the Environment, Heath McDonald, because we need to do whatever we can to stop this unnecessary killing of 399 ostriches at the Universal Ostrich Farms in British Columbia.
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We'll be back again tomorrow.
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God bless to all of you.
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Godspeed.
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This has been David Creighton broadcasting to your life.
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Tune in tomorrow.
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