Stay Free - Russel Brand - #017 | The Mask Is Slipping. Plus Special Guest Nick Ortner

00:00:00.000 I'm going to go ahead and get the camera.

00:11:58.000 Slow news day here in the UK, just the illusion falling apart before our very eyes.

00:12:05.000 Those of you that are familiar with ideas like Simulacra and Simulacrum will know that beneath apparent reality there is a deeper reality bubbling away.

00:12:15.000 Deleuze, the French post-modernist philosopher, says it's like a kettle boiling.

00:12:20.000 The water will become steam.

00:12:22.000 The suppressed reality will emerge.

00:12:26.000 And today, when you sort of see the resignation of Liz Truss, I think six weeks after she became Prime Minister, we're forced to confront that potentially we live at a time When politicians have become disposable, what does that say about the real nature of power and where real power is situated?

00:12:47.000 That's why we've called today's show The Mask Is Slipping because also later in the show we're going to be talking about the relationships between Big Pharma and the government, the ongoing gain of function.

00:13:00.000 It's not gain of function research, it's that they've created new There's a debate around whether it's going to function or not.

00:13:06.000 The people doing it have said it's not going to function, but other people have said it is going to function.

00:13:10.000 So, there's a debate.

00:13:11.000 You would know, Gareth, because you are, after all, a producer of this show.

00:13:15.000 And a scientist, yes.

00:13:15.000 Oh!

00:13:15.000 A scientist.

00:13:17.000 An actual scientist with us also is Sue B.

00:13:21.000 Young Putin, who will be giving us your comments.

00:13:24.000 Let us know in the chat if you think that this recent spectacle is a kind of indication that our establishment systems are falling apart.

00:13:35.000 Over the course of this next hour, what I'm going to be pondering and asking you is, do you think that what will happen is that the carousel will continue to twirl, new protagonists will come forward, we'll get a new leader of the British Conservative Party, or perhaps the Labour Party will salvage us from this economic wreckage?

00:13:58.000 You know where I stand on this.

00:14:00.000 The problem is institutional, global, ...deeply ideological and beyond parliamentary, or in the case of America, congressional politics, and ultimately will lead us to...

00:14:14.000 Well, I mean, if you want to see how this chaos, this new and emergent chaos is presenting itself, look at just normal British news.

00:14:23.000 And if you're watching this in America, or you're watching this in France, or if you're watching this in Algeria, wherever in the world you're watching this, think about your own systems of governance, and are they truly representative of the will of the people, or are they ultimately the playthings of powerful international interests?

00:14:38.000 This is a question you can ask yourself.

00:14:39.000 Right now in the chat.

00:14:41.000 And again, with the broader philosophical question that relates to the nature of illusion, the nature of reality, the spectacle, the constructed reality we're invited to participate in, look at this is normal British telly.

00:14:53.000 We're English.

00:14:55.000 We're reserved.

00:14:56.000 We hold it together.

00:14:56.000 Like, you've seen the news from our country.

00:14:58.000 Hello, this is the news.

00:15:01.000 We're just doing our absolute best.

00:15:03.000 God bless you, your majesty.

00:15:05.000 Stiff upper lip, everyone.

00:15:06.000 Nobody react.

00:15:08.000 Keep perfectly still.

00:15:09.000 There's been an oil spill.

00:15:11.000 We'll simply clear it up.

00:15:13.000 Look at the news.

00:15:13.000 Never tell anyone you love them.

00:15:16.000 Look at the normal news from yesterday.

00:15:19.000 It has been a night of astonishing scenes at Westminster with reports of jostling, manhandling, bullying and shouting outside the parliamentary lobby.

00:15:29.000 The first thing they're reporting on is jostling.

00:15:31.000 This is prior to Liz Truss's resignation, by the way.

00:15:35.000 Before Liz Truss resigned yesterday, the Home Secretary resigned.

00:15:39.000 There was a general sense of chaos.

00:15:41.000 The Chancellor had resigned.

00:15:43.000 Pounds up a bit though, that's good.

00:15:45.000 Pounds shot up a little bit.

00:15:47.000 This is before today's events.

00:15:49.000 It's unfolding like a splintering and fragmenting reality.

00:15:55.000 It's like the snow globe has been dropped.

00:15:57.000 It's all spilling out.

00:15:59.000 What do you think the manhandling bit was?

00:16:01.000 I don't know, because even the jostling, like why's jostling?

00:16:04.000 What is jostling?

00:16:05.000 This is jostling.

00:16:07.000 I don't think it's newsworthy, to be honest with you.

00:16:10.000 I think that jostling is like people are in a confined space and they're sort of like that.

00:16:16.000 That's me, Jocelyn.

00:16:17.000 You think that makes the news?

00:16:20.000 I don't think the news... I don't think... This is what the news should be.

00:16:20.000 I don't think it should.

00:16:23.000 The whole system's falling apart.

00:16:25.000 We don't know what we're doing anymore.

00:16:27.000 We're the corporate media partners of the financial interests that put those people in government and deny you any real democratic possibility.

00:16:36.000 We don't know what to say anymore.

00:16:37.000 It should be about Jocelyn and the manhandling.

00:16:43.000 There's been handled, manhandled.

00:16:45.000 I suppose that means handled in a way that you didn't want to be handled, that was somewhat aggressive.

00:16:49.000 I suppose that's manhandling.

00:16:50.000 Yeah, I think he goes on to say that the interesting thing is this happened in a supposed vote of confidence in the government.

00:16:57.000 So, this didn't go very well, that vote of confidence.

00:16:59.000 Like, the whole point of the vote was, right, well, should we see how confident we are in the government?

00:17:04.000 Well, frankly, I'd like a jostle.

00:17:06.000 Exactly.

00:17:06.000 And a manhandle first.

00:17:08.000 Look, this is, again, normal English news.

00:17:10.000 This isn't like a parody.

00:17:12.000 ...in a supposed vote of confidence in the government.

00:17:15.000 The deputy chief whip was reported to have left the scene saying, I'm absolutely effing furious.

00:17:21.000 I just don't effing care anymore.

00:17:24.000 Don't say that on the news.

00:17:26.000 No one has ever before, I don't think, gone, here's the news.

00:17:29.000 Someone's effing furious.

00:17:30.000 I don't effing care anymore.

00:17:32.000 Like, people's emotions.

00:17:33.000 All of our political and social and cultural realities have to pass through the human psyche.

00:17:40.000 And it's like now the traces are starting to merge. 0.98

00:17:42.000 People are fucking pissed off! 0.98

00:17:44.000 They've had enough! 1.00

00:17:45.000 I caught my dick in my zipper! 1.00

00:17:47.000 I don't reckon my wife loves me no more! 1.00

00:17:50.000 What are you saying?

00:17:50.000 This is the news!

00:17:51.000 Oh, sorry, um, the prices of pounds moved a bit.

00:17:54.000 You know, like, the sort of, the reality is sort of bursting out like monkey pop.

00:17:59.000 I like the way that someone's got to the point of saying, I don't care anymore.

00:18:02.000 Like, about any of it.

00:18:03.000 I don't care about this entire system.

00:18:05.000 That's the chief whip.

00:18:06.000 That's one of the civil servants that I think... Are they partisan, the whips?

00:18:11.000 Or do they remain with one party?

00:18:13.000 Or do they stay in government regardless of who wins it?

00:18:17.000 But they're not an MP, are they?

00:18:18.000 They're sort of an apparatchik.

00:18:19.000 That's right.

00:18:20.000 Right.

00:18:21.000 So that dude... Like, I like that he says, like, I don't care anymore!

00:18:24.000 I'm effing furious!

00:18:26.000 He kicked over some bins on his way out, he pulled a cat's tail, he flicked someone on the titwart, right?

00:18:33.000 And then about ten seconds later, that geezer took his job back, didn't he?

00:18:38.000 That's right.

00:18:38.000 Check it out.

00:18:39.000 He resigned along with the Chief Whip, but we've just been told they have now officially unresigned.

00:18:46.000 The Home Secretary has, however... I'm effing furious!

00:18:49.000 I've had enough of it!

00:18:50.000 What?

00:18:50.000 Right, I'm back again!

00:18:51.000 Hello, sorry about all that!

00:18:53.000 No, don't look at me like I'm out the door!

00:18:55.000 These are the people that are in charge.

00:18:56.000 Isn't the whole point of it, the whole point of the suits, the accents, the university educations, isn't the point of all of that to create some distinction between them and us?

00:19:07.000 That this, these are the representatives of the system.

00:19:10.000 We know what we're doing.

00:19:12.000 We know how to talk properly.

00:19:13.000 I've been doing this for ages.

00:19:14.000 I'm effing done!

00:19:15.000 I'm pissed off! 0.52

00:19:16.000 I'm going home!

00:19:17.000 I just did the toilet in my nappy!

00:19:19.000 That's not how it's supposed to sound.

00:19:21.000 It's falling apart.

00:19:23.000 They can't prevent it.

00:19:24.000 They will try to.

00:19:25.000 They'll try to paper over this, but for now it's becoming clear that something's going on, isn't it?

00:19:28.000 I like how long this opening monologue is.

00:19:30.000 It's normally really short and snappy, but the story's so long that they have to keep repeating the music underneath.

00:19:37.000 Like, if they were doing that music, like, yeah, because normally it's just, uh, Obama visited Britain, people cross with Trump, Biden seems a bit old.

00:19:45.000 This is the news.

00:19:46.000 That's it.

00:19:47.000 Yeah, but now it's just gone on so long because people are resigning, coming back, hitting each other, manhandling, bullying, shouting, effing furious.

00:19:54.000 I'm furious, I've done a jostle, I'm pissed off, oh, I'm back again, call that jostling, I'll see you in court, I'll jostle you until you're into the middle of next week.

00:20:05.000 Yeah!

00:20:05.000 He's gotten that out of hand.

00:20:06.000 Still going.

00:20:07.000 He's got a few more seconds.

00:20:08.000 Definitely got it.

00:20:09.000 In short, it is total, absolute, abject chaos.

00:20:14.000 Chaos is the word as well because order is temporal.

00:20:19.000 Order is a pattern and I suppose when we think of order it's a pattern that we have induced, a deliberate control mechanism.

00:20:27.000 We are the government.

00:20:28.000 We have control of these resources.

00:20:30.000 We have a contract with you.

00:20:32.000 You voted us into power.

00:20:34.000 We will ensure your interests are looked after.

00:20:37.000 But because it's become so apparent that that is not what we're living in, it's like that reality is seeping out.

00:20:43.000 It's that we're caught in the fog of it.

00:20:45.000 And of course this is, as I said, prior to Liz Truss, our Prime Minister, there's barely time to sort of Learn her name.

00:20:53.000 That's not long enough for a relationship.

00:20:55.000 If you introduce someone to your parents, like, listen, I've met Liz Truss.

00:21:00.000 I know she looks different from the front and side.

00:21:00.000 I love her.

00:21:03.000 Remember her from both angles now.

00:21:05.000 You'll get used to that.

00:21:05.000 In case she sort of comes in sideways later.

00:21:07.000 Who's this woman in our house? 1.00

00:21:09.000 He's got another girlfriend.

00:21:10.000 Oh. 0.97

00:21:11.000 You, sir, are disloyal! 0.52

00:21:13.000 You're a two-time... Oh, it's her. 0.70

00:21:14.000 She just turned her head a bit.

00:21:15.000 She looks unusual.

00:21:16.000 Why is your girlfriend blinking so much? 1.00

00:21:18.000 Hello.

00:21:19.000 I make your son very happy.

00:21:21.000 I've done something about energy bills.

00:21:22.000 Yeah, you told us that when you came in.

00:21:23.000 Energy.

00:21:24.000 Remember, we've done something about energy bills.

00:21:26.000 I've got energy.

00:21:27.000 Got a lot of enemies.

00:21:28.000 Got a lot of blinking trying to get me through this interview.

00:21:31.000 She can't stop her, they're blinking, that lady. 1.00

00:21:34.000 Well, today she's had to resign. 0.99

00:21:36.000 It's a familiar sight in British politics. 0.95

00:21:38.000 I'm sure it is wherever you are in your crazy little planet.

00:21:41.000 I mean, it's our planet, isn't it?

00:21:42.000 We're all living here.

00:21:43.000 You know, the moment when they resign, often there's that sense of when a puppet has its strings cut, when you're relieved.

00:21:49.000 You know when you've sort of stopped trying, Gareth?

00:21:52.000 When you're sort of like, I'm not going to bother anymore.

00:21:56.000 I haven't had those moments in your life where you're just like, oh, that's it.

00:21:59.000 I'm not going to like... Have you been in an argument with a person and then just went, I don't care.

00:22:03.000 Yeah.

00:22:04.000 I had one with a farmer once.

00:22:05.000 I was arguing with a farmer like, what are you doing here?

00:22:09.000 You've got no right to be here.

00:22:10.000 And he was actually... You said that to him or he said that to you?

00:22:15.000 I'm with my dog in his field.

00:22:16.000 Right.

00:22:17.000 Right.

00:22:17.000 It's more like this.

00:22:18.000 Oi, what are you doing here?

00:22:19.000 What are you doing in my field?

00:22:20.000 I'm sorry, mate.

00:22:21.000 I'm just like, you know.

00:22:22.000 Right, well, you can't walk through here.

00:22:23.000 You can't walk through here.

00:22:24.000 I've not lived in the countryside long.

00:22:25.000 There are different laws, different rules.

00:22:26.000 Oh, all right, mate.

00:22:27.000 And then I actually got a bit annoying.

00:22:28.000 I mean, there's some, like, escalated.

00:22:30.000 Yeah.

00:22:31.000 And then there was a bit when he was really shouting and I goes, listen, I don't care about this anymore, do you?

00:22:35.000 And he was like, yes!

00:22:37.000 He was still in it.

00:22:39.000 But like, now let's have a look at Liz Truss's resignation.

00:22:41.000 You know, these famous moments, Nixon effing off onto that helicopter.

00:22:45.000 We've seen these kind of moments before because it's commonly said all political careers end in failure.

00:22:51.000 But what I want to ...present you with is the idea that they cannot ever have had real power.

00:22:57.000 For it to have expired in six weeks, this is a kind of performance.

00:23:01.000 This is why we have performer politicians now. 0.74

00:23:04.000 Politicians that are slick on camera.

00:23:05.000 I guess maybe it's not a new thing.

00:23:06.000 Ronald Reagan was of course an actor and was a... 0.95

00:23:09.000 Damned good president, many of you will believe. 0.96

00:23:11.000 Certainly, he delivered his lines well most of the time. 0.99

00:23:15.000 But, like, now we have... They're not that good at performing.

00:23:18.000 They evidently don't have any real power.

00:23:20.000 Here is Liz Truss offering her resignation. 0.82

00:23:23.000 Notice that it's at 13.33.

00:23:25.000 It's a sign.

00:23:27.000 And before you say, oh, it's not a sign, they've got a lion and a unicorn on the podium.

00:23:32.000 What does that mean?

00:23:33.000 What does it all mean?

00:23:35.000 Have a look.

00:23:37.000 She's coming out.

00:23:37.000 Let's listen in.

00:23:44.000 I came into office at a time of great economic instability.

00:23:52.000 international instability.

00:23:55.000 Families and businesses were worried about how to pay their bills.

00:23:59.000 This first bit is an excuse, isn't it?

00:24:01.000 This is basically, this ain't my fault, it was broke when I got here.

00:24:04.000 Oi, who's broke this economy?

00:24:05.000 It was broke when I got here. 0.99

00:24:06.000 We came in a time of instability, she's about to start bringing Putin up, families and businesses were fucked. 0.95

00:24:11.000 Those things, exactly your point, those things are still going on. 0.83

00:24:15.000 Mark, if I was there I'd say, we came in when it was like this, and I've left when it's like this, but it's exactly the same.

00:24:21.000 In a short six weeks, I've actually made it a bit worse.

00:24:25.000 Again, your political resignation shouldn't be... You should offer a mea culpa, wouldn't you?

00:24:32.000 I suppose what she should be saying, if this was normal life, and again, this is why if you don't know why Trump's successful, I would say in part it's his His ability to communicate in a manner that seems like a normal person talking, even though he's evidently extraordinary.

00:24:48.000 What this person could be saying is, look, I've only been Prime Minister six weeks, it seems ridiculous that I'm already here resigning.

00:24:55.000 We had some ideas and we did get elected on that mandate, but the ideas, you know, like the reduction of the top rate of tax, it's not worked.

00:25:02.000 It's gone terribly, terribly wrong.

00:25:04.000 I'm incredibly embarrassed.

00:25:05.000 I'm sorry.

00:25:07.000 It doesn't sound like that, does it?

00:25:08.000 Also, that podium looks wonky, as well.

00:25:10.000 They can't even get the podium to be straight.

00:25:12.000 Not a good sign, is it?

00:25:12.000 Look at our podium.

00:25:13.000 Look at me. 0.89

00:25:14.000 You get yourself a pulpit, you spray the bloody thing pink, and you resign with dignity, if that's what's required. 0.72

00:25:21.000 Let's see where she goes now. 1.00

00:25:23.000 Putin's illegal war in Ukraine threatens the security of our... Putin?

00:25:28.000 I mean, what's that got to do with any of this? 0.92

00:25:31.000 Bloody Putin! 0.95

00:25:33.000 They're dragging him up for a minute. 0.99

00:25:35.000 This is Putin's fault.

00:25:37.000 Yeah.

00:25:38.000 He put this pulpit up earlier on.

00:25:40.000 I've said to Putin, make sure it's flush with the camera so I at least look like I know what I'm doing.

00:25:45.000 I will not put it flush.

00:25:47.000 I am taking back something.

00:25:48.000 I declare martial law on this papavian.

00:25:51.000 I've annexed your pulpit.

00:25:53.000 Oh no, I can't even do this right.

00:25:57.000 ...continent and our country has been held back for too long by low economic growth.

00:26:04.000 I was elected by the Conservative Party with a mandate to change this.

00:26:09.000 We delivered on energy bills and on cutting national Bill's so proud of them energy bills, but what they've actually done is they're giving energy companies some taxpayer money. 1.00

00:26:19.000 It's not like they've not gone, listen you energy company, we ain't giving you no more money, we're taking back them energy companies, they're ours now, now fuck off! 0.99

00:26:27.000 I mean, swearing aside, you could actually do that. 1.00

00:26:27.000 Stop that! 1.00

00:26:30.000 So we've been elected, well I suppose you'd probably want to get elected on that kind of mandate.

00:26:35.000 For a brief while in this country, Jeremy Corbyn was leader of the Labour Party and proposed things like the renationalisation of energy companies, railways, free education and high taxation for wealthy corporations and super wealthy individuals.

00:26:51.000 And recently after he was ...booted out of office after some pretty interesting maneuvering by the establishment.

00:26:58.000 He said, I don't think anything I was proposing was that weird.

00:27:02.000 I mean, I feel they were quite good ideas.

00:27:04.000 When are people going to accept that change might mean doing things different?

00:27:08.000 We're gonna change everything!

00:27:09.000 This is like, cause this is proper, this is chaos now.

00:27:11.000 This is the revelation that even the pretense of order cannot be sustained.

00:27:17.000 Real change won't be, but now we've got this guy!

00:27:21.000 Look!

00:27:21.000 He's got nice hair!

00:27:23.000 Or something, won't it?

00:27:24.000 He's got nice hair!

00:27:25.000 He's a different colour than normal!

00:27:28.000 Or something, or even more mad, we've got the last guy back again!

00:27:33.000 Maybe he's changed?

00:27:35.000 Like, or...

00:27:36.000 Right, well, let's definitely get the other party of people that basically went to the same schools, had the same jobs, have the same interests, are funded in more or less the same way.

00:27:47.000 Because genuinely radical politics and genuinely radical ideas cannot be included within that system because the system's priority is self-preservation and it will only make minimal changes so that you have the appearance of transformation without actual transformation.

00:28:03.000 An example from across the United States, we've covered it on our channel already, Biden says decriminalise cannabis.

00:28:09.000 Biden does, we're going to release everyone from federal prison that's in jail for cannabis charges only.

00:28:16.000 That's no one at all.

00:28:17.000 Perfect.

00:28:18.000 Gesture made, nothing done.

00:28:20.000 You're always offered piecemeal facsimiles of change, never actual change.

00:28:28.000 The system must preserve itself.

00:28:30.000 I like the way she says, our country's been held back for too long.

00:28:33.000 Like it's like a kid at school or something.

00:28:34.000 Yeah.

00:28:36.000 What is the force?

00:28:37.000 What's the external force that's holding back the country for too long?

00:28:42.000 Get out there, you're a bloody good country!

00:28:44.000 You can do it!

00:28:45.000 I stick up for you.

00:28:46.000 I stick up for you with the other countries! 1.00

00:28:48.000 Them idiots, the French, Pooey! 1.00

00:28:51.000 Can't trust them, under the channel, touching us with sand! 1.00

00:28:55.000 Let's see where she'd go. 1.00

00:28:57.000 Insurance.

00:28:59.000 And we set out a vision for a low-tax, high-growth economy that would take advantage of the freedoms of Brexit.

00:29:08.000 I recognise, though, given the situation, I cannot deliver the mandate on which I was elected by the Conservative Party.

00:29:18.000 I have therefore spoken to His Majesty the King.

00:29:20.000 That seems weird.

00:29:22.000 That's not right.

00:29:22.000 His Majesty... So everything's changing.

00:29:24.000 It's only just Meta.

00:29:24.000 The Queen's dead.

00:29:25.000 The Queen's a bloke now. 1.00

00:29:27.000 It's all falling apart.

00:29:29.000 I mean, it makes sense.

00:29:29.000 We can't hold together this system.

00:29:31.000 It's ridiculous, isn't it? 0.99

00:29:32.000 She was annoyed by the last time in Meta when she gave the bloody hell you were going. 1.00

00:29:36.000 Oh, bloody hell! 0.98

00:29:36.000 Oh, God! 0.98

00:29:37.000 This bloody bed! 0.99

00:29:38.000 You've been here only just last week! 0.99

00:29:40.000 Now you're resigning!

00:29:41.000 Oh, who is it now?

00:29:42.000 This one? 0.99

00:29:43.000 I can't remember all your bloody names! 0.99

00:29:43.000 That one? 0.99

00:29:47.000 Yeah!

00:29:48.000 I wonder what that call was like though.

00:29:50.000 Did she call or go and see him?

00:29:53.000 Is it like a breakup or something?

00:29:54.000 I wonder what it is.

00:29:55.000 Well I think that everything is so purely, what do I want to say, sort of superficial, bureaucratic and rudimentary that it's completely devoid of any real meaning and even the performers, it's like people are sort of waking up in the pods now like, oh my god, how can you connect this to any value?

00:30:12.000 I'm sure she's having actual real feelings.

00:30:15.000 When I think about that, when I think of her humanity, when I think of her as a child and with her dreams, when I think of her eternal spirit, when I think of the fact that she's just a human, just a girl, standing in front of a boy, asking him if she can be Prime Minister for another half hour.

00:30:28.000 In front of a wonky pulpit.

00:30:30.000 Notify him that I am resigning as leader of the Conservative Party.

00:30:37.000 Alright, so she does.

00:30:38.000 She has to call him up.

00:30:39.000 Yeah.

00:30:40.000 But that can't be.

00:30:41.000 Is that functional?

00:30:42.000 There's anything?

00:30:42.000 Is it real?

00:30:43.000 Can he say no?

00:30:44.000 Yeah, I think he can say no.

00:30:46.000 I like you!

00:30:46.000 No way!

00:30:47.000 You stay there!

00:30:48.000 First I lose real mummy! 0.97

00:30:49.000 Now Prime Minister mummy!

00:30:51.000 And I got married mummy!

00:30:53.000 I didn't like glamorous mummy!

00:30:55.000 Sexy warrior mummy!

00:30:57.000 She had to go!

00:30:58.000 No way!

00:30:58.000 No more mummies!

00:31:00.000 You're staying put!

00:31:01.000 I met the chairman of the 1922 committee, Sir Graham Brady.

00:31:06.000 We've agreed that there will be a leadership election to be completed within the next week.

00:31:11.000 How can we take that seriously now?

00:31:12.000 How can we take, like... I can't get used to it.

00:31:14.000 It's like...

00:31:15.000 People used to say that when I would turn up with a new girlfriend.

00:31:18.000 They'd say, what's the point?

00:31:19.000 There's going to be another one in a week.

00:31:21.000 That's what it's like with prime ministers.

00:31:22.000 Well, this is our new prime minister.

00:31:24.000 What's your vision?

00:31:25.000 Oh, I don't know, really.

00:31:26.000 I'm just going to try my hardest.

00:31:28.000 They might as well just have a conveyor belt.

00:31:31.000 Just have them in for a moment.

00:31:33.000 Balls up the economy a little bit.

00:31:34.000 And then straight into whatever job you get at a fracking company.

00:31:37.000 Yeah.

00:31:38.000 And also, why don't you mention that 1922 committee?

00:31:40.000 Like, we all know what that is.

00:31:41.000 Like, oh, OK.

00:31:43.000 The 1922 committee.

00:31:43.000 Before you go any further, Have you told the 1922 committee about this?

00:31:47.000 Why are they from 1922?

00:31:50.000 Is it a lot of old people? 1.00

00:31:51.000 What is this?

00:31:52.000 Don't worry about how I'm going to pay my gas bills.

00:31:54.000 Don't worry about the fuel crisis.

00:31:56.000 Don't worry about the despair and pervasive sense of nihilism.

00:32:00.000 Have you told a committee from a hundred years ago that you've done this?

00:32:04.000 Oh yeah, no, it's the first thing I did after I told the pretend Queen bloke person.

00:32:11.000 This will ensure that we remain on a path to deliver our fiscal plans and maintain our country's economic stability and national security.

00:32:21.000 I will remain as Prime Minister until a successor has been chosen.

00:32:26.000 Thank you.

00:32:27.000 Oh, that's only another week!

00:32:30.000 She's like, I will endure the rest of the week.

00:32:33.000 It's like a Craig David song.

00:32:35.000 It's like Solomon Grundy, but it's in fact a period of leadership.

00:32:40.000 I suppose when something this radical and this immediate takes place, there has to be a kind of reckoning, doesn't there?

00:32:49.000 Are we ultimately just going to deliver another person into that position, another person that will ultimately stand in front of another podium in a matter of weeks or months or years after serving the financial interests of the groups that fund the Conservative Party rather than representing the interests of the people that they were elected to serve?

00:33:10.000 Not going to be a pivotal and transitional moment, is it?

00:33:12.000 I just think she's not Tory pedigree.

00:33:15.000 You know, obviously she was originally a Lib Dem, and she gave that speech about the abolition of the Royal Family when she was a Lib Dem. 0.98

00:33:23.000 And, you know, look at someone like Boris, you know, Etonian proper bred Tory, or Cameron, those people that like really lasted the distance.

00:33:33.000 That's one of the many things that Boris had to go through when all those parties came out.

00:33:38.000 No, I'm staying.

00:33:40.000 I'm still staying.

00:33:40.000 But you did those parties.

00:33:41.000 Yeah, I'm still staying.

00:33:42.000 It was amazing how long he dragged that out for.

00:33:45.000 Right, right.

00:33:46.000 The sort of Etonian tenacity.

00:33:49.000 If you can endure a schooling that has buggery on the curriculum, you can put up with admissions of a few Covid parties.

00:33:57.000 Yeah, I think that's probably a soft underbelly to a former Liberal Democrat.

00:34:01.000 Maybe.

00:34:01.000 Right, I see.

00:34:03.000 I don't know.

00:34:03.000 I mean, because as you know, sort of like my overall perspective is that sort of within the various shades that exist in the different parliamentary parties is... I don't know that these are kind of meaningless exchanges and shuffling unless something happens that genuinely affects the lives of ordinary people.

00:34:21.000 Now of course I have been more involved in mainstream politics and I've even myself stood

00:34:28.000 outside of that iconic front door, number 10 Downing Street, where Churchill has stood.

00:34:35.000 When I was like, briefly, in fact it was when me and Gareth first started, our first iteration

00:34:39.000 of this channel was called The Truths, where we'd just do daily comments on the news, sometimes

00:34:44.000 it was somewhat incendiary, and it was broadly undertaken from the perspective that mainstream

00:34:49.000 politics was futile and I was kind of escalated into a position of public prominence when

00:34:56.000 I admitted that I'd never voted in my life because it was pointless.

00:35:00.000 And I said, well, people that I know and grew up with, no one votes.

00:35:03.000 They sort of consider it to be sort of a senseless, futile, phatic exercise.

00:35:08.000 And regardless of who you vote for, you get the same sort of political and economic interests ultimately being represented.

00:35:15.000 And in a sense, I got sort of mired in all sorts of arguments.

00:35:19.000 And we, on our channel then, and hopefully on our channel now, Decided instead to represent interests outside of Parliament, activist groups and this was when I got involved with this campaign group to stop these flats getting closed down and taken over and these women ran this campaign and we amplified their campaign, shone a bit of a light on it.

00:35:39.000 I became friends with these free women and in this moment a Channel 4 journalist was confronting me and sort of like, I can't remember exactly what he was saying.

00:35:46.000 He was digging me out and winding me up.

00:35:48.000 Really all I was doing was helping this community get their campaign more prominent.

00:35:55.000 But eventually, after getting irritated by this journalist, I used one of the campaigners as a kind of human shield.

00:36:02.000 Have a look at this.

00:36:03.000 David Cameron isn't.

00:36:05.000 Lisa Russell-Brown's actually standing up regardless of how big his house is and coming down and helping ordinary people.

00:36:09.000 Well, that's what it was.

00:36:10.000 He said, like, you've got a big house.

00:36:13.000 That was his attack.

00:36:14.000 You've got a big house, you're not poor.

00:36:16.000 And, yeah, what I did is sort of dragged her over.

00:36:20.000 Now it just turns into sort of the kind of bickering that would happen in a supermarket over the last roll on deodorant.

00:36:26.000 Turn on people as soon as they stand up.

00:36:31.000 The sharp there because she was actually sticking up for me.

00:36:34.000 There is a bit in a minute, well in a couple of seconds where you literally just let her get on with it.

00:36:37.000 Hang on a minute.

00:36:38.000 She's better at this.

00:36:39.000 Wait a second.

00:36:40.000 I could just let this person talk.

00:36:41.000 She's going to do all the heavy lifting. 1.00

00:36:43.000 At the moment I look at my eyes.

00:36:45.000 Yeah.

00:36:47.000 I'm really, yeah, I'm going full Rasputin.

00:36:49.000 He's irritated the old ego nexus.

00:36:52.000 David Cameron's prepared to come out of his big house and help us.

00:36:54.000 He isn't, is he?

00:36:55.000 But Russell Brand has.

00:36:56.000 And thank God there is people like him who's prepared to step out and help people like us.

00:37:00.000 Otherwise, we wouldn't be here today.

00:37:01.000 We wouldn't have 300,000 signatures.

00:37:04.000 We would have been kicked out and booted out of London.

00:37:06.000 Yeah, a snide like you, mate, undermine it. 0.94

00:37:08.000 You're a snide. 0.90

00:37:09.000 Alright, let's do one.

00:37:11.000 What I did there is I got a little bit too cockney.

00:37:14.000 I got sort of sucked into her cockney orbit for a moment.

00:37:17.000 You had a long time to think about what your final point was going to be and then your final point was you're a snide.

00:37:23.000 I still think it stands the test of time because I was like looking at him there feeling like really sort of strong feelings of discontent and malevolence towards that man.

00:37:34.000 Do you think you need to explain what a snide is at this stage?

00:37:34.000 You went full on cockney.

00:37:37.000 Yes.

00:37:38.000 Snide is an untrustworthy and slippery individual.

00:37:44.000 He's grinning, the reporter.

00:37:44.000 Look at that.

00:37:46.000 The old Bills loved it.

00:37:48.000 And off we went, back to Albert Square, which is the fictional setting of EastEnders, which is British soap opera.

00:37:56.000 Well, there you are.

00:37:57.000 That's what's happened.

00:37:58.000 And I suppose, like, um...

00:38:02.000 Before we go into our main video today, where we look at, I mean, extraordinarily, one of the financial interests that was potentially involved in the potential lab leak that may have led to the global pandemic, which has been part of this ongoing narrative that we're experiencing of lurching from crisis to crisis, no peace, no sense, no purchase.

00:38:27.000 They are now doing additional, as Gareth said, potentially gain-of-function research.

00:38:31.000 It might not be gain-of-function research, that's something that's being debated.

00:38:34.000 But what I will tell you is they're making a bat coronavirus more deadly, giving it to mouses, and the mouses are dropping like flies. 1.00

00:38:43.000 80% of mice are dying of it.

00:38:44.000 That's right, yeah.

00:38:45.000 Doesn't seem like... I mean, you know, like, get another hobby is what I'd say.

00:38:49.000 Let's have a look at that geezer, um, sort of saying, like, who's really emotional about... This is just, again, sort of like some sort of British MP.

00:38:56.000 And again, what I find interesting is that the emotion is surging to the forefront.

00:39:01.000 People aren't even using correct political discourse anymore.

00:39:05.000 I'm sorry, it's very difficult to convey.

00:39:07.000 You look just furious about this.

00:39:09.000 I am, I am.

00:39:10.000 I've had enough.

00:39:11.000 I've had enough of talentless people putting their tick in the right box, not because it's in the national interest.

00:39:19.000 It's like he's had enough because of boxes and ticks and stuff.

00:39:23.000 People can't afford to pay their heating bills.

00:39:26.000 People with jobs that are using food banks.

00:39:28.000 It's the real minutiae of government now, isn't it?

00:39:30.000 That's it.

00:39:31.000 I can't be bothered.

00:39:32.000 Look, I can't even get a podium to be on the right angle.

00:39:35.000 I ticked a box earlier.

00:39:37.000 There's those little pens that you get in Argos and at the Bettys.

00:39:41.000 It's not good enough.

00:39:42.000 Look at my hair gel.

00:39:44.000 It's too adhesive.

00:39:45.000 That's not my natural root lift.

00:39:47.000 This isn't what I asked for.

00:39:48.000 The hairdresser, the whole thing's falling apart.

00:39:51.000 Look at the sort of gothic architecture, the grandeur, the goddesses that adorn these buildings and what takes place in this skullduggery, slipperiness, deceptiveness.

00:40:03.000 I feel that we're living in a time where the illusion is fracturing.

00:40:06.000 I think this is more than localised, national or even global politics.

00:40:10.000 I think it's a psychic shift.

00:40:13.000 Order will always be temporal.

00:40:15.000 Chaos is always behind order.

00:40:18.000 How do you ever change yourself as an individual, let alone an entire culture, without recourse to chaos?

00:40:25.000 Where is the energy going to come from?

00:40:27.000 Think about yourself, like, oh God, I'm so tired.

00:40:29.000 I need to change my life.

00:40:30.000 I don't want to live like this anymore.

00:40:33.000 Where are you going to get the resources from?

00:40:34.000 You're going to use techniques like mentorship, We're going to use reflection, contemplation, and ultimately, you're going to have to go within yourself, which is a risky business, because there be dragons.

00:40:44.000 When you go into those depths, there are dangers.

00:40:47.000 I truly believe this is a time where we have to look at alternative systems, real democracy, decentralized power, the empowerment of ordinary people to run their own communities.

00:40:58.000 New ideas, actually.

00:40:59.000 It's not necessarily new ideas, I mean, but something certainly that, you know, Jeremy Corbyn was talking about just You know, seven years ago.

00:41:06.000 Seems a lot more pragmatic now.

00:41:07.000 Get some, get a control over national facilities so at least ordinary people can expect a basic standard of living, can pay their bills, can eat food.

00:41:17.000 Like the real Maslow pyramid of needs.

00:41:19.000 Just the first bit of the pyramid they would have done before that to sort of work out pulleys and systems that we still don't really understand.

00:41:26.000 You want to watch some more?

00:41:28.000 I don't know, does he say anything else worthwhile?

00:41:31.000 But because it's in their own personal interest to achieve ministerial position and I know I speak for hundreds of backbenchers who right now are worrying for their constituents all the time but now worrying about their own personal circumstances because there is nothing as X as an ex-MP.

00:41:50.000 Not a phrase.

00:41:53.000 And as the old saying goes, there's nothing as X as an old XMP.

00:41:58.000 You thought that was X?

00:41:59.000 Well, Guy WX, that's XXMPs.

00:42:03.000 Yeah, that's... That's sign off on that.

00:42:05.000 Like a phrase that no one's heard of.

00:42:07.000 And as we always say, red sky at night, new Prime Minister by the morrow.

00:42:12.000 XXY, why did we try?

00:42:15.000 Bloody old tick box kicked me in the ball bag.

00:42:18.000 What are you saying? 0.91

00:42:20.000 I'm so angry that I'm making up catchphrases here on the news.

00:42:24.000 Yeah, get a hold of yourself, man.

00:42:26.000 All right, so the actual news, in addition to watching parliamentary politics collapse before our very eyes, an indication that something new and powerful could yet be formed that will involve you.

00:42:37.000 It doesn't have to be abstracted.

00:42:39.000 Other stuff includes expert committee recommends that COVID-19 shots become part of the CDC vaccine program for children.

00:42:47.000 We'll be talking about that more.

00:42:48.000 Why is that happening, Gareth?

00:42:49.000 Well I mean we don't know whether it is happening for this reason or not but interestingly also the health and resource resources and services administration has clarified what needs to happen for a vaccine to become liability free.

00:43:00.000 For a vaccine to be covered the CDC must recommend the category of vaccine for routine administration to children or pregnant women.

00:43:06.000 So essentially For these vaccines and manufacturers such as Pfizer and Moderna to become liability-free, as in not be able to be sued, the CDC would have to recommend these vaccines to children, which is happening.

00:43:17.000 Why would they want to be liability-free?

00:43:19.000 Why would you, for sure, did they anticipate there being some kind of liability?

00:43:24.000 Why would you want legal indemnity?

00:43:26.000 Why would you, there's like, I mean, Johnson & Johnson, who I, I adore Johnson & Johnson.

00:43:32.000 You like Johnson a lot more than Johnson. 0.99

00:43:35.000 Johnson's okay, but Johnson, what a prick! 0.98

00:43:37.000 Why can't you be more like Johnson, Johnson? 0.99

00:43:40.000 When's it going to end?

00:43:41.000 It's Johnson, Johnson and Johnson.

00:43:43.000 We've got another Johnson, we don't use him much. 0.96

00:43:45.000 What we do with this Johnson is we blame him when we have legal cases, because you know Johnson, Johnson, I mean I can't believe I'm saying this out loud, but Johnson, Johnson's baby powder is potentially carciogenic and certainly Johnson and Johnson have paid out two billion in, uh, remuneration and damages to, I think, 22 women who say that they got ovarian cancer as a result of that exposure.

00:44:05.000 They probably settled it out of court so that it's not legally provable, right?

00:44:10.000 Oh, sorry, sorry.

00:44:11.000 Allegedly!

00:44:13.000 Powder of Johnson and Johnson's is good stuff.

00:44:16.000 I say take a delicious gulp of it every single morning.

00:44:19.000 And how that relates to this sort of systemic problem, of course, is obvious, isn't it?

00:44:23.000 Politicians are dispensable.

00:44:25.000 The system is performative.

00:44:27.000 Real power is corporate.

00:44:29.000 And we're all engaged in a ludicrous spectacle that can't even be bothered to hold itself together for the duration of a simple resignation speech.

00:44:37.000 And if you're living in New York City, God help you, because the rats have taken over to such a degree that people, like the officials that are giving speeches, seem to be more interested in the rats than the people of New York.

00:44:54.000 Yeah, this is an amazing story, because apparently, well, the New York City has apparently become an all-night, all-you-can-eat rat buffet, they're saying.

00:45:02.000 It's just, like, visually amazing.

00:45:04.000 All-night, all-you-can-eat rat buffet?

00:45:08.000 If you're out in New York at night, there's so many rats everywhere...

00:45:08.000 What does that mean?

00:45:12.000 You could eat... There's no restriction on how many you can eat.

00:45:15.000 I don't know if it means that you can eat the rats, but the buffet is for the rats.

00:45:19.000 They're the customers.

00:45:19.000 Yeah, I think it is that.

00:45:21.000 He's not like going to New York.

00:45:22.000 No.

00:45:23.000 Surely, can I keep eating rats? 0.74

00:45:25.000 Sir, have as many rats as you like! 0.91

00:45:28.000 I'm walking here, but I've had over 25 rats! 1.00

00:45:31.000 Keep eating those rats!

00:45:32.000 There's no limitation, sir. 0.99

00:45:34.000 It's an endless slurpy cup of rat blood.

00:45:38.000 See what these guys are up to. 0.98

00:45:40.000 The rats are absolutely going to hate this announcement. 0.98

00:45:44.000 Why are you telling the rats? 0.97

00:45:46.000 Because they're not.

00:45:48.000 The rats won't care.

00:45:49.000 Well, they won't understand. 0.93

00:45:51.000 They don't.

00:45:51.000 Rats, if they have a language at all, it's a sort of almost pheromonal system of communication that takes place way beneath the lexicon of human English.

00:46:02.000 Yeah.

00:46:03.000 Exactly.

00:46:03.000 And also, you know, I don't think that, yeah, as you say, they're not going to care about what she says.

00:46:08.000 They're addressing it to the wrong people. 0.97

00:46:10.000 But the rats don't run this city. 0.97

00:46:13.000 That's not an impressive statement, I think, if you're in charge of New York, for your thing to be to show authority by saying, the rats don't run this city. 0.95

00:46:22.000 and not rat high. That's why we live the way we do.

00:46:25.000 That's not an impressive statement I think if you're in charge of New York 0.88

00:46:29.000 for your thing to be to show authority by saying the rats don't run this city 0.54

00:46:34.000 it's not, doesn't show you authority.

00:46:36.000 When they are shown like visiting diplomats around Manhattan

00:46:39.000 and one thing of which we're particularly proud is that we've won our ongoing battle with rodents.

00:46:46.000 Well, we defeated them, like, millions of years ago when we out-evolved them.

00:46:51.000 It's not, like, neck-and-neck with the rats.

00:46:53.000 It's not Battle of... It's not Planet of the Apes.

00:46:55.000 Is it?

00:46:55.000 No.

00:46:56.000 Like, where it's all shit, but the apes might win. 1.00

00:46:58.000 No. 1.00

00:47:00.000 You do.

00:47:01.000 This is not Ratatouille.

00:47:03.000 Rats are not our friends.

00:47:08.000 Why?

00:47:09.000 Look at the geyser in the background. 0.99

00:47:10.000 He's just holding his shit together for out of this. 0.99

00:47:12.000 The actual mayor, isn't it? 0.99

00:47:13.000 That's Eric Adams, I think he's called.

00:47:14.000 This guy, the guy talking, or the geyser in the background?

00:47:17.000 No, the geyser behind him, I think it is.

00:47:18.000 Oh yeah, he's the mayor, is he?

00:47:19.000 And he's like, right, all right, all of you go out there.

00:47:21.000 The main things, as mayor of New York, these are things I want you to make clear.

00:47:25.000 It ain't an all-you-can-eat rat buffet, even with the rats as the smorgasbord or the diners, right?

00:47:31.000 Rats are not in charge here. 0.68

00:47:34.000 One thing I noticed a lot of confusion of, people seem to think that the film Rat 2 is actually a documentary about a rat who's trying to make it as a chef, but there's a lot of prejudice against rats.

00:47:45.000 So obviously what he's done, in a rather complex system of semaphore, he's gotten inside a boy's chef hat, who's not actually that good of a cook, and he's manipulating that boy to be in a Very good chef.

00:47:56.000 In the end, though, they accept that the rat should be the chef himself.

00:48:01.000 Anyway, that's not real.

00:48:03.000 Yeah, it's like he's trying to convince the public.

00:48:06.000 Because if he's saying that the public thought that this was ratatouille... Because he says, this is not ratatouille.

00:48:14.000 That's going to be a shock to people.

00:48:16.000 I thought this was ratatouille. 0.97

00:48:18.000 Is it in the sense that the general public mood in New York is, I like all these rats! 0.90

00:48:23.000 This is the best time! 0.96

00:48:24.000 This is like Ratatouille! 0.94

00:48:26.000 Hey, get some of these rats on my head! 1.00

00:48:28.000 Maybe I can become a Top Chef! 0.95

00:48:30.000 Oh my God!

00:48:31.000 This one's eaten my eyeball! 0.99

00:48:33.000 My optic nerve!

00:48:34.000 Like, people aren't so convinced that Ratatouille is a life guide.

00:48:39.000 That they're doing it for real.

00:48:39.000 No.

00:48:40.000 No, no one does it.

00:48:42.000 Like when people go, oh, hip-hop, it's making people too violent.

00:48:44.000 Or computer games is making too violent.

00:48:46.000 Ratatouille has convinced everyone that they can become Michelin star chefs if they're willing to accept this violent infestation and possibly use them as marionette themselves.

00:49:00.000 Forget the cost of living crisis, the real problem is people have got rats inside their chef's hat.

00:49:05.000 Right, guys, we're sick and tired of this. 1.00

00:49:07.000 Every single one of you, lift up your fucking chef hats right now. 0.99

00:49:13.000 We don't have to lift up our chef hats. 1.00

00:49:15.000 We're New Yorkers.

00:49:16.000 All right, lift up. 0.97

00:49:17.000 I'm free.

00:49:18.000 Lift up your chef hat.

00:49:20.000 One, two, three! 1.00

00:49:21.000 All the stampering little rats! 0.99

00:49:23.000 That's not what's going to happen, is it? 0.99

00:49:25.000 No.

00:49:26.000 He says rats are not our friends as well.

00:49:28.000 Again, like a statement I don't think is needed.

00:49:30.000 Like all the people of New York are snuggling up to him and that.

00:49:33.000 That was happening.

00:49:34.000 I've not been to New York for a while because of Covid and everything.

00:49:36.000 I didn't realise that rats were like vying for dominance in the city and a considerable number of New Yorkers were sort of up for it because of Ratatouille.

00:49:45.000 They're having to be dissuaded from it.

00:49:47.000 Hey, listen, maybe it's not so bad. 0.98

00:49:48.000 Let the rats take over. 0.98

00:49:49.000 I mean, it's not like Ratatouille.

00:49:51.000 No, no!

00:49:52.000 No, it's not Ratatouille.

00:49:53.000 How many more times?

00:49:55.000 Baby, if there is a post-apocalyptic hell, it'll be like Wall-E and, like, you know, a little robot will find love with another little robot.

00:50:03.000 No, no.

00:50:04.000 Pixar movie.

00:50:05.000 Hey, maybe if we just, like, let our toys run things, you know, they'll come to us.

00:50:10.000 No!

00:50:11.000 Why are people in New York having to explain that Pixar movies are fictional?

00:50:16.000 Representations of whimsical stuff that might be delightful in the world of animation, but if it actually happened, it would be akin to hell.

00:50:25.000 I mean, a real-life person trying to make it as a chef, and you found out, oh, God, what's your secret?

00:50:30.000 This soup.

00:50:31.000 It's absolutely magnificent, what an incredible blend of flavours.

00:50:34.000 Oh well what it is, it's like I've got a rat.

00:50:37.000 Tell the mayor though, whatever you do.

00:50:39.000 One thing is, don't tell any mayor. 0.99

00:50:41.000 Those pen pushers at City Hall, they're against this bloody fascist pigs, but what I've got is he's the rat and he's on my head right now actually, and he's like tugs at my scalp, and like he directs the cooking. 0.99

00:50:54.000 Yeah, if I'm adding turmeric, he says That's enough turmeric, son. 0.99

00:50:59.000 Hold back on that.

00:51:00.000 You might want to try a bit of chili. 1.00

00:51:02.000 Can I ask you, outright, do you fuck that rat? 1.00

00:51:05.000 Yeah, I do. 1.00

00:51:07.000 I'm all for that. 1.00

00:51:08.000 Okay, everyone in New York, stop fucking rats. 1.00

00:51:12.000 This is not porn Ratatouille. 1.00

00:51:15.000 A version of Ratatouille where you dress the rat up all sexy and then you fuck that little rat. 1.00

00:51:21.000 That is not life. 1.00

00:51:22.000 But it might as well be.

00:51:24.000 Would it?

00:51:25.000 Well, look at what's happening in the world.

00:51:26.000 Prime Minister's come.

00:51:27.000 Hello, I'm Prime Minister.

00:51:28.000 Oh, I'm gone again.

00:51:29.000 Pounds up, pounds down.

00:51:30.000 Right, I see.

00:51:31.000 Hey, listen, we might have leaked that thing out of a lab.

00:51:34.000 Oh, let's make it worse.

00:51:35.000 It's all bonkers.

00:51:36.000 It's gone out of control. 1.00

00:51:37.000 Yeah, chaos includes having sex with rats, I imagine. 0.99

00:51:40.000 Once you've invited chaos in, like, whoa, chaos! 1.00

00:51:45.000 Well, I'm going to be fucking a rat. 1.00

00:51:46.000 I mean, I don't like it. 1.00

00:51:46.000 Oh, God. 1.00

00:51:50.000 It's within the general remit.

00:51:52.000 Also, why are, like, mice suddenly all the heroes because of these experiments that they're doing, and they ate rats?

00:51:59.000 I don't see the mouses as the heroes, you know. 1.00

00:52:02.000 Right.

00:52:02.000 Do you?

00:52:03.000 What, you think they're brave, self-sacrificing mouses?

00:52:05.000 Well, that's what they're saying.

00:52:06.000 That's got no choice.

00:52:07.000 No.

00:52:07.000 The mice, they're not like, OK, well, if it'll help humanity.

00:52:10.000 They're just in a cage, have that vaccine.

00:52:13.000 Why don't they test the vaccines on the brats instead? 0.80

00:52:15.000 Oh, my God.

00:52:16.000 Right.

00:52:17.000 This is a genius idea.

00:52:19.000 New York! 0.98

00:52:20.000 Get them rats! 1.00

00:52:22.000 Test vaccines on them instead of humans! 0.69

00:52:28.000 Allegedly.

00:52:32.000 So much to consider, so much to consider.

00:52:34.000 Listen, we're going to, in a second, we're going to look at our item. 0.99

00:52:37.000 No, here's the fucking news. 0.99

00:52:37.000 Here's the news. 0.99

00:52:38.000 We're in this sort of clown world, bizarre circus you're being invited to inhabit.

00:52:44.000 People are now scientists, brilliant men and women that might be curing actual diseases and finding solutions for the myriad problems we face in harmony with economists, finding new ways for us to trade and communicate, are instead trying to make A new type of coronavirus that's much worse than the last one, which could, let's face it, have been leaked from a lab.

00:53:05.000 Well, the same people funding, the same people involved are doing more crazy, wacko stuff.

00:53:10.000 Why?

00:53:11.000 Why?

00:53:12.000 What's driving all of this?

00:53:13.000 What I will tell you is because I love you and because we care about you, at the end of today's show, Nick Ortner, my friend and creator of Tapping Solutions, a brilliant app that you should download, that you can download for free, will be on to give us some tapping advice.

00:53:26.000 Tapping's a bit like, I suppose, Acupuncture, in that it operates on the body's meridians and helps you beat stress.

00:53:33.000 Now, you might think, oh, this is a bit mad what Russell's doing, but actually, somewhere downstairs, there's a rat making a lovely lasagna as a direct result of what I'm doing now. 1.00

00:53:43.000 I said moussaka, you little motherfucker! 1.00

00:53:47.000 Up a bit, up a bit, you crazy rat! 1.00

00:53:50.000 Here's the news. 0.99

00:53:51.000 No, here's the effing news. 0.99

00:53:56.000 Now here's the f**king news! 0.98

00:53:58.000 Good news everyone! A new strain of COVID that kills 80% of the mice that they're testing it on 0.98

00:54:05.000 is being developed in a Boston lab. You won't believe who's behind it!

00:54:09.000 As scientists at a Boston lab create a new strain of COVID that kills 80% of the mice they test it

00:54:18.000 on, we ask simply, what are you doing that for?

00:54:21.000 Haven't you had enough COVID?

00:54:23.000 American researchers have developed a new lethal COVID strain in a laboratory echoing experiments that many fear started the pandemic.

00:54:31.000 That's not a conspiracy theory to say that anymore.

00:54:32.000 You're allowed to say that now.

00:54:34.000 The mutant variant, which is a hybrid of Omicron and the original Wuhan virus, yay, super group, killed 80% of the mice infected with it at Boston University.

00:54:43.000 That was only five mice, though.

00:54:44.000 The revelation exposes how dangerous virus manipulation research continues to go on, even in the US, despite fears similar practices may have started the pandemic.

00:54:54.000 Professor Shmuel Shapira, a leading scientist in the Israeli government, said, this should be totally forbidden.

00:55:00.000 It's playing with fire.

00:55:02.000 Like, you don't need to do experiments on playing with fire to know this stuff.

00:55:04.000 But what happens if you actually do play with fire?

00:55:06.000 Oh my god!

00:55:07.000 My lab coat!

00:55:08.000 The Bunsen burner!

00:55:09.000 Oh no!

00:55:09.000 The mice!

00:55:10.000 We've only got two of them!

00:55:11.000 And it's booster season in a minute!

00:55:15.000 Delete the file!

00:55:16.000 In the new research, which has not been peer-reviewed...

00:55:20.000 That's good.

00:55:21.000 You don't have peers looking over it.

00:55:22.000 Hey, hold on a minute, this is dangerous! 1.00

00:55:24.000 Ah, fuck off! 0.99

00:55:25.000 A team of researchers from Boston and Florida attached Omicron's spike to the original wild-type strain that first emerged in Wuhan at the start of the pandemic. 1.00

00:55:33.000 Why on earth would you do that?

00:55:35.000 What if we took the powers of Superman and then gave them to Adolf Hitler? 0.90

00:55:39.000 Oh, that seems like a good idea.

00:55:40.000 Should we get it peer-reviewed?

00:55:42.000 Nah, let's just do it!

00:55:44.000 My lab coat's on fire!

00:55:44.000 Aah!

00:55:46.000 Open the window! 0.74

00:55:47.000 No, don't tell anybody you did that!

00:55:48.000 Oh, my God!

00:55:49.000 Hitler's out of the lab! 0.84

00:55:50.000 Hitler! 0.88

00:55:51.000 Don't you go misusing those powers!

00:55:53.000 Is he trying to fly, or is that a salute?

00:55:55.000 Hitler! 0.88

00:55:56.000 That better not be a salute!

00:55:57.000 He's not learned a thing from last time!

00:56:00.000 Where are you going, Hitler?! !

00:56:01.000 The researchers looked at how mice fared against the new hybrid strain compared to the original Omicron variant.

00:56:07.000 It's not really very nice, is it, to create a super strain of coronavirus and then see how it gets on with innocent little mice.

00:56:07.000 How mice fared.

00:56:13.000 My money's on this new virus.

00:56:15.000 We're going to do our best, guys.

00:56:17.000 Come on, let's try and get... Oh, my lungs! 1.00

00:56:19.000 My God, I can't draw breath!

00:56:21.000 Once again, it's new spiky Omicron is the winner.

00:56:25.000 Oh my, Hitler's done what? 1.00

00:56:27.000 You bastard! 1.00

00:56:28.000 You promised us! 1.00

00:56:29.000 You promised us you would not invade Czechoslovakia!

00:56:33.000 Why did we give him the Rhineland?

00:56:34.000 I bow to no one in my love of science and the spirit of experimentation.

00:56:39.000 They've the last...

00:56:41.000 Coronavirus was bad for mice.

00:56:43.000 It's pretty obvious, isn't it, that making coronavirus much worse and then giving it to some little mouses is going to have a negative effect. 1.00

00:56:51.000 Whoa, what the hell's going to happen here?

00:56:53.000 Maybe these mouses will develop superpowers and we can get them to stop Hitler. 1.00

00:56:58.000 He's looking pretty pissed off up there.

00:56:58.000 I don't think so.

00:57:01.000 What are you doing in that lab?

00:57:02.000 Well, look, it all started with a brilliant idea to give superpowers to Hitler. 0.91

00:57:06.000 That, I'm afraid, did go wrong, but we're working on a solution right now.

00:57:09.000 Oh, God, another mouse is dead!

00:57:11.000 We've only got two left!

00:57:13.000 And it's booster season in a week!

00:57:15.000 When a similar group of rodents were exposed to the standard Omicron strain, however, they all survived and only experienced mild symptoms.

00:57:21.000 Are you ready for some more cheese?

00:57:23.000 Actually, yeah, I will take a little.

00:57:24.000 Before I give you any of this cheese, where's your mouse passport?

00:57:24.000 Jake!

00:57:27.000 We better lock you down for a couple of years just to make sure that don't go anywhere. 0.59

00:57:31.000 Yeah, it's probably for the best.

00:57:32.000 Probably for the best.

00:57:33.000 Right in the paper, they said, in mice, while Omicron causes mild non-fatal infection, the Omicron S carrying virus inflicts severe disease with a mortality rate of 80%.

00:57:42.000 Good work, everyone.

00:57:43.000 The researchers said it signaled that while the spike protein is responsible for infectivity, changes to other parts of its structure determine its deadliness.

00:57:50.000 Well, that's Really nice to know which exact bit is going to kill your grandad and any rodent pets that you might have had to soothe him in his lonely demise.

00:57:59.000 And of course we all know grandad was doing quite well until there was that lab leak which killed not only him but Huey, Louie and Dewey.

00:58:06.000 I suppose I can understand, in the abstract, why making a virus more deadly in order to cultivate a response to it, so that if that ever happened in reality, is a kind of good way of gaming out potential problems.

00:58:19.000 But it does seem like the motivation might be financial and economic at best, and maleficent at worst, rather than Come on, let's get on it guys!

00:58:30.000 You know, this doesn't actually help, does it?

00:58:32.000 This isn't the solution we're looking for.

00:58:34.000 What about heart disease?

00:58:35.000 What about poverty?

00:58:35.000 What about the fuel crisis?

00:58:37.000 Why not use the best scientific minds in the world to solve the problems that people are actually facing, rather than creating much worse problems that we've only just bloody well got over?

00:58:46.000 Based on your recent experiences of being alive, which of these two potential mainstream media stories seems more likely?

00:58:52.000 Good news, everyone!

00:58:53.000 There's a new deadly coronavirus, but we have already developed a vaccine for it, so you don't need to worry, and we're gonna give it to you free at a price that's right.

00:59:01.000 Even your taxpayer money will be reasonably distributed.

00:59:04.000 We've done a great deal with Pfizer.

00:59:06.000 That, or this.

00:59:07.000 Listen!

00:59:07.000 Uh, well, there's a new virus.

00:59:09.000 It's come out of a wet market, very near, again, a function research lab that's deleted its files.

00:59:15.000 And I'm sorry, but we're all gonna have to go back indoors for a while.

00:59:18.000 This is gonna be a terrible situation for everyone in the world except for Bill Gates and a couple of other guys.

00:59:23.000 Okay, hope you enjoyed the news!

00:59:26.000 One of those news stories has already happened.

00:59:29.000 The other one, I've never heard anything like it.

00:59:31.000 Professor David Livermore, a professor of microbiology at the UK's University of East Anglia, said, given the strong likelihood that the COVID pandemic originated from the escape of a lab-manipulated coronavirus in Wuhan, these experiments seem profoundly unwise.

00:59:46.000 There's unwise, and then there's like, dropping into a new level of like Doctor Strange.

00:59:55.000 Oh my god, that's so unwise.

00:59:57.000 Why are you doing that?

00:59:58.000 Even if you take the worst global conspiracy of them manipulating it in order to dominate the globe, it's still not a good idea.

01:00:05.000 Gain-of-function research was largely restricted in the US until 2017 when the National Institutes of Health began to allow it to take place using government funds.

01:00:13.000 Previously, it had been halted from 2014 to 2017 over concerns that it could lead to the inadvertent creation of a pandemic.

01:00:20.000 Do you know what I've realized?

01:00:21.000 By making these viruses more infectious, what if we actually cause the pandemic?

01:00:26.000 That's a good idea.

01:00:27.000 Let's stop doing this research.

01:00:30.000 Should we start doing that research again?

01:00:32.000 Yeah, it's fun, wasn't it?

01:00:34.000 Sorry, I can't hear you.

01:00:34.000 Hello?

01:00:35.000 You're coughing.

01:00:36.000 The University of Boston refuted that the experiments are going to function, adding that the research was reviewed and approved by the Institutional Biosafety Committee, IBC, and the Boston Public Health Commission.

01:00:47.000 Check funding.

01:00:48.000 A spokesperson said, ultimately, this research will provide a public benefit by leading to better targeted therapeutic interventions to help fight against future pandemics.

01:00:57.000 Well, in the end, ultimately, when you play it all out, then eventually, Hitler, of course, causes those genocides. 0.90

01:01:03.000 He conquers mainland Europe.

01:01:05.000 This time he's able, of course, to succeed in conquering Britain.

01:01:08.000 The U.S.

01:01:08.000 are unable to provide a solution on the Eastern Front.

01:01:11.000 He experiences victory because of his new superpowers and accedes to become world emperor. 1.00

01:01:16.000 At this point, we inject that son of a bitch with a deadly dose of coronavirus from all these mouses. 1.00

01:01:23.000 You're welcome, planet Earth. 0.98

01:01:25.000 There's no evidence that the work was conducted improperly or unsafely, but it's become apparent that the research team did not clear the work with the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, which was one of the funders of the project.

01:01:37.000 Oh, I remember hearing of those guys.

01:01:39.000 They were the people that were helping us and guiding us through the last pandemic with their brilliant advice and potential ties to groups and organizations that were involved in the Wuhan experiments in the first place. 0.83

01:01:50.000 I can't remember any of the names of any of the individuals, but I feel like Anthony Fauci was the head of the NIAID.

01:01:57.000 Interesting to see that guy's legacy continues after his own personal retirement.

01:02:01.000 The agency's gonna be looking for some answers as to why it first learned of the work through media reports.

01:02:06.000 Would you mind telling us what the hell's going on in that laboratory?

01:02:09.000 I've been reading in the New York Times, which I love, by the way, that you guys are making Hitler some sort of Superman. 0.89

01:02:17.000 Yeah, what, do we have to tell you everything we do with your money?

01:02:20.000 I would prefer it.

01:02:21.000 At least tell me are those mice okay.

01:02:24.000 Emily Erbelding, director of NIAID's Division of Microbiology and Infectious Diseases, said the BU team's original grant applications did not specify that the scientists wanted to do this precise work.

01:02:24.000 20% of them are.

01:02:36.000 What are they doing on their grants?

01:02:37.000 Yeah, just, you know, just been doing some experiments, man.

01:02:40.000 Just having some fun in there.

01:02:41.000 It's like, I see science as more like jazz.

01:02:43.000 We just get in the lab, get a mouse, chunk it in a bin, get a bat coronavirus, Give me a little bit more accountable. 0.68

01:02:51.000 We just had a massive global pandemic. 1.00

01:02:52.000 Hey, fuck you, squares! 1.00

01:02:54.000 Nor did the group make clear that it was doing experiments that might involve enhancing a pathogen of pandemic potential in the progress reports it provided to the NIAID. 1.00

01:03:03.000 There you go!

01:03:04.000 It's all in there.

01:03:05.000 It's all in there.

01:03:06.000 So, no enhancing pathogen of pandemic potential.

01:03:09.000 It's not in the report, is it?

01:03:11.000 So, I guess you got that point, Dexter.

01:03:13.000 Why don't you just stick to pushing your pants in City Hall and leave the science to us artists out there in the lab?

01:03:21.000 I think we're going to have conversations over upcoming days, Abelding told Stat in an interview.

01:03:25.000 Asked if the research team should have informed NIAID of its intention to do the work, Abelding said, we wish that they would have, yes.

01:03:34.000 Just like it's like a boyfriend and a girlfriend arguing.

01:03:37.000 I wish you'd told me about that.

01:03:39.000 You could have told me, Gerald, that you were going to use that money to fund more experiments in creating a literal super Hitler. 0.87

01:03:48.000 You're just like your father.

01:03:50.000 I wish they would have, yes.

01:03:52.000 When their whole catchphrase is, follow the stars, it's disconcerting that wishes are involved at any level.

01:03:57.000 Oh, star light, star bright, first star I see tonight.

01:04:01.000 Please God, don't let these maniac scientists release any pathogens into the planet. 1.00

01:04:07.000 Hope that wasn't a broken window.

01:04:08.000 Hope that wasn't an airbed falling over.

01:04:11.000 Hope that wasn't some files being deleted.

01:04:13.000 Hope that isn't the new super flying invisible Hitler. 0.93

01:04:18.000 My lucky stars.

01:04:19.000 There have long been speculation about the true origins of the virus that took over the world in early 2020.

01:04:25.000 Some believe that the virus could be man-made with explanations ranging from the accidental to the nefarious.

01:04:30.000 It is feared that the virus being developed managed to infect an employee, then escape into the real world from there.

01:04:36.000 The theory for COVID was initially dismissed as conspiracy at the start of the pandemic in favour of natural emergence.

01:04:42.000 Quite rightly, it clearly was a conspiracy.

01:04:44.000 There's absolutely no evidence of any employee getting any diseases that could have led to COVID anyway.

01:04:50.000 The hypothesis gained momentum following a series of revelations and cover-ups.

01:04:54.000 Just because there's revelations and cover-ups, that doesn't mean that government agencies and private pharmaceutical interests are concealing a potential problem that would leave them culpable for a global pandemic.

01:05:06.000 Crucial information about the earliest infected patients was wiped from the Wuhan Labs database in 2019.

01:05:14.000 And one of its staff vanished after coming down with a mysterious flu-like illness.

01:05:19.000 Oh! 0.60

01:05:19.000 You think just because we wiped the database and because an employee disappeared with a mysterious flu-like illness that somehow there's been some sort of cover-up and the coronavirus started in the lab? 0.60

01:05:30.000 We wiped that database because it's contained a lot of surprise information for your birthday and one, without getting you a cake, That super-enhanced Adolf Hitler was a surprise for your birthday and you've ruined it! 0.92

01:05:45.000 Oh my god, what's he doing?

01:05:48.000 You're just like your Führer. 0.85

01:05:50.000 Father!

01:05:51.000 If you want an opinion, my opinion is probably there are better areas of endeavour for the finest scientific minds that Pfizer can buy to be Putting their attention, focus and concentration upon solving the real problems of ordinary people all over the world, creating a fairer, more just, more medically sound and robust civilization for all of us, which I believe is achievable and possible, which is why it's so frustrating.

01:06:16.000 But that's just what I think.

01:06:17.000 Let me know what you think in the chat.

01:06:19.000 Let me know what you think in the comments.

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01:07:07.000 Now though, I just want to follow up a little bit on the Liz Truss resignation story and how parliamentary politics, or in the case of the United States of America, congressional politics, is incapable of addressing the issues, or not incapable, unwilling to address the issues that affect I'm talking to Chris Webb now, he's head of communications of the activist group Enough is Enough.

01:07:31.000 Chris, I understand that thanks for joining us mate.

01:07:33.000 I believe that the Enough is Enough campaign is essentially a way for All people of all denominations and all political beliefs to come together to push back against the rising cost of living.

01:07:45.000 How is your campaign going?

01:07:46.000 What do you think about parliamentary politics and do you think now the solutions have to come from outside of ordinary political systems?

01:07:56.000 Hey Russell, good to be on buddy.

01:07:57.000 Yeah, I mean we, exactly what you've just said there really, we believe that the Enough is Enough campaign is about bringing together ordinary working people, trade unionists, community groups, individuals to deliver change because we think the political system has failed working class people for decades now.

01:08:15.000 It's not just a recent development.

01:08:16.000 It's not just the recent months development where we've had one, two, three, and we're going to have more Tory Prime Ministers.

01:08:22.000 This is about working class people delivering change in the country.

01:08:25.000 I think In terms of the campaign, it's going absolutely fantastic.

01:08:29.000 It couldn't have gone any better, really.

01:08:30.000 We launched just a couple of months ago.

01:08:32.000 We've got over 700,000 people have signed up to support it.

01:08:35.000 Millions and millions of followers on our social media channels and views on our videos.

01:08:41.000 And it's really catching fire.

01:08:42.000 We're holding rallies and events up and down the UK.

01:08:45.000 So you take the most typical ones like London, where we had 10,000 people.

01:08:50.000 For a rally with Mick Lynch from the RMT, Dave Ward from the CW and others in Kings Cross a couple of weeks ago.

01:08:56.000 But we're also going to places like Norwich, Russell, who traditionally aren't political hotbeds.

01:09:01.000 And there's 700 people turn out there on a Tuesday night because there's an appetite for change and there's an appetite for working class people to deliver it.

01:09:08.000 So I'm the head of communications at the CW.

01:09:11.000 We've had 155,000 people on strike today.

01:09:12.000 Royal Mail workers, and we've had BT and open reach workers and those picket lines have been so so lively and one of the interesting things there in the Royal Mail dispute take for example is the seventh day of strike action within a few weeks seven days of not getting paid in a cost of living crisis which is hitting people hard our members lose using food banks

01:09:35.000 People not able to pay bills.

01:09:37.000 People worried about being able to pay their rent.

01:09:39.000 And they're still out to a person on that picket line because finally there's some hope.

01:09:43.000 There's a combination that maybe through the combination of the trade union movement, Enough is Enough campaign and working class people coming together, we can deliver change in this country.

01:09:54.000 Chris, that's so exciting to hear you talk like that, to hear a new popular movement emerging that is open to all of us, outside of parliamentary politics, where real issues that matter to people are being addressed in a way that they never can in these co-opted bipartisan systems, whether you're in America or England or wherever you are in the world, there's a sense that parliamentary or government or politics is becoming Extracted from the interests of ordinary people and co-opted by corporate interests.

01:10:24.000 So encouraging and so exciting to hear that.

01:10:26.000 Of course there's the Don't Pay UK campaign that we're familiar with, where people are going to renege on their energy bills because of the corruption.

01:10:32.000 Acknowledging that the measures taken by Liz Truss, former Prime Minister, after that six-week shindig are irrelevant.

01:10:40.000 Although they might be a little bit of piecemeal aid, ultimately their money's still going to energy companies.

01:10:46.000 Do you feel, mate, that wherever you are in the world there is a dearth of political representation for movements that genuinely and meaningfully improve the lives of ordinary working people?

01:11:00.000 Yeah, I do, mate.

01:11:01.000 I mean, we work with Senator Nina Turner.

01:11:03.000 I'm not sure if you're familiar with Nina, and she uses the phrase, what happens over there happens over here. 0.98

01:11:07.000 And that's exactly, you know, the businesses and the corporations and the politicians, they work together collectively to suppress working class people and to suppress working people in general.

01:11:18.000 I mean, a little interesting stat as well was Liz Truss was elected as leader of this country by just 83,000 Tory party members.

01:11:28.000 Our mandate in raw mail strike 86,000 poster workers voted for strike action.

01:11:33.000 She's got no mandate and she's had no mandate and that's been played out but we are seeing levels of engagement whether it's through industrial action through the enough is enough campaign that we haven't seen for decades Russia we're seeing I mean and it's not just your usual suspects it's not like you go into these enough is enough rallies or you come into picket lines and you know you've been around For a significant period of time and you've got really good, well-meaning, left-leaning people who come up and they turn up time after time after time and they've put the shift in.

01:12:03.000 We are getting people from all walks of life turning up and all backgrounds turning up to these rallies and people really are saying enough is enough and we're giving them an outlet.

01:12:13.000 So what we're also saying, which I think is interesting, We need to do it in the workplace, so people need to join the trade union, they need to get organised, and they need to win at work.

01:12:23.000 We also need to do it in their communities.

01:12:25.000 But the political systems are a total and utter embarrassment in this country.

01:12:29.000 Listen, we're calling for a general election.

01:12:31.000 We want this Tory party out in this country.

01:12:34.000 Any Labour government is going to be better than any Tory government.

01:12:37.000 But what we can't do is rely on politicians to deliver that change for us.

01:12:41.000 Change in this country, if it's going to be true change, will only be delivered by a grassroots movement of people

01:12:47.000 rising up and demanding more and putting pressure on politicians to deliver that

01:12:52.000 or saying to those politicians if they don't deliver it, then move out of the way.

01:12:55.000 Chris, I'd be so excited if we on our show could participate with the Enough is Enough movement

01:13:01.000 in popularising your message and helping to spread it, this message of inclusion

01:13:06.000 that invites people from across the previous political spectrum

01:13:09.000 to participate in the creation of real change.

01:13:12.000 My understanding is there's nothing the establishment fears more than people throwing off the categories of left and right.

01:13:20.000 ...issues that can exist between different cultural or racial or religious groups to come together and represent our common interests and anything we can do to be of service to your movement we will undertake.

01:13:31.000 Where should people follow you so they can learn more about the ongoing campaign and the activism that you're undertaking, please?

01:13:37.000 So get on our website, wesayenough.co.uk, follow us on Twitter, follow us on Instagram, follow us on Facebook.

01:13:44.000 The followings are getting absolutely massive.

01:13:45.000 I'm sure you follow us, Russell.

01:13:47.000 If you don't, you should finish the show and jump straight on yourself, buddy.

01:13:50.000 Make sure you follow the campaign.

01:13:51.000 But listen, and we need you to turn up to rallies because, like, you know, we have a saying which is less tweeting, more meeting.

01:13:59.000 So put down the tweets, get on your feet, get out your seat, get on the streets.

01:14:03.000 Oh my God!

01:14:04.000 I love them lyrics!

01:14:05.000 Get off your feet!

01:14:06.000 Stop that tweet! 1.00

01:14:08.000 Get on the street!

01:14:09.000 Do you eat meat?

01:14:10.000 Of course I don't.

01:14:11.000 I'm vegan.

01:14:12.000 This is a fantastic opportunity, mate.

01:14:13.000 We'll have you in here in person.

01:14:15.000 We'll do anything we can to support you.

01:14:17.000 Thank you very much for your work.

01:14:19.000 It's lovely to meet you.

01:14:19.000 I look forward to checking in with you in person soon.

01:14:22.000 Thank you, Chris.

01:14:23.000 Thank you, Russell.

01:14:23.000 Top man.

01:14:24.000 Nice one, fantastic.

01:14:25.000 And I suppose this is exactly the sort of thing we're interested in, Gareth, isn't it?

01:14:29.000 Movements that are outside of politics, where people feel empowered.

01:14:33.000 We've got to put aside them labels of left and right.

01:14:35.000 We've got to put aside our fear of people that may seem different to us because maybe they got that big beard or something.

01:14:43.000 It was a hell of a big beard.

01:14:44.000 You can't fear a beard.

01:14:45.000 I've a beard, it's a slightly different beard.

01:14:47.000 There's a variety of beards available to all cultural groups.

01:14:55.000 Like, don't look at the world through Guess Who.

01:14:58.000 So do I. Like, I'm all the time thinking, I wouldn't like you on Guess Who.

01:15:03.000 Might as well get Claire with that hat and glasses. 1.00

01:15:06.000 You're gonna have her in two guesses. 1.00

01:15:08.000 An absolute outrage.

01:15:09.000 Listen, this ain't a time to discuss Guess Who.

01:15:12.000 This is a time for us to use...

01:15:15.000 New, emergent, somehow arcane, tapping techniques to make ourselves feel better. 0.92

01:15:19.000 There's no point in trying to create a political revolution if we're all sick as pigs, if our emotional state is erratic and unwell. 0.72

01:15:27.000 I'm a person that needs to be tapping continually. 0.95

01:15:30.000 I use these techniques for my own mental health.

01:15:32.000 That's why I'm so rational and balanced.

01:15:34.000 I'm probably not the best advert in the world for it.

01:15:38.000 For it right now.

01:15:39.000 But you should have seen me before I started tapping.

01:15:41.000 Guys, we're going to tap with Nick after when we go to Stay Free AF.

01:15:44.000 But I'd love to introduce you to Nick Orton right now.

01:15:47.000 Hello, Nick.

01:15:48.000 How's it going, mate?

01:15:50.000 How are you, brother?

01:15:51.000 You look so handsome there.

01:15:51.000 I'm so well.

01:15:53.000 Thank you for joining us today.

01:15:56.000 With the world in this state of continuing chaos, with the breakdown in trust in corporations and governments, with a news cycle that seems designed to terrify people, how do you think that your tapping method can help us?

01:16:11.000 Yeah, well, I mean, it's a big task, right, to deal with this overwhelm.

01:16:14.000 But the reality is that when we Here are these things, you know, how do we find that balance between staying informed, between looking at what's happening in the news, and then also finding that inner peace, like enjoying our lives, being able to control the things that we can control.

01:16:28.000 I know that you often talk about local level, right?

01:16:31.000 Like, what can we control on a local level?

01:16:34.000 And that applies not just to politics, it applies to our lives.

01:16:37.000 So like what can we control in our lives today?

01:16:39.000 What are the shifts that we can make?

01:16:41.000 What are the things that we can let go of?

01:16:43.000 How can we show up at our best selves?

01:16:45.000 Because the revolution that you're speaking of, the revolution that I know the people watching want, The individual bringing the best out of them, right?

01:16:54.000 It's not going to come if we're stressed, if we're overwhelmed, if we're angry beyond being able to think.

01:16:59.000 So what we're doing with the tabbing is we're releasing some of that stress, we're releasing some of those issues that we have, we're releasing some of the traumas from the past so we can find that present moment and from there create the life and the world that we want.

01:17:12.000 Looking at a little poll that we just done on Instagram, only a third of you have tried tapping.

01:17:18.000 We are going to be doing some tapping together.

01:17:21.000 There have been times in my life where I've gone from feeling like really, really anxious, really, really scared and really fearful.

01:17:28.000 And I've used Nick Orton's tapping techniques to make myself feel better.

01:17:32.000 It always works.

01:17:33.000 He's a very effective model.

01:17:35.000 We're going to have to do it on Stay Free AF, which is our membership community, which you can join.

01:17:40.000 In a couple of clicks, if you want to do that right now, you can see us in a second.

01:17:44.000 So, today has been an extraordinary day.

01:17:47.000 The spectacle is falling apart around us.

01:17:51.000 Whether it's further evidence of corporate corruption, pharmaceutical corroboration... You don't need to do it now, darling, because we'll have a little minute for the turnaround.

01:17:58.000 Gareth, I'll talk to you now.

01:18:00.000 So, give us a second.

01:18:01.000 Keep still.

01:18:02.000 Freeze.

01:18:02.000 Thank you.

01:18:05.000 Our friend Joe there is doing some mics, but we've got a turnaround now.

01:18:08.000 I'm wrapping up, so it's all cool.

01:18:11.000 So listen, it's been an extraordinary day of disruption and madness and insanity.

01:18:17.000 And it's presenting itself, I think, in an increasingly peculiar variety of ways.

01:18:24.000 The corporate corruption is more evident.

01:18:26.000 The fact that political figures are disposable and replaceable is becoming plain and clear.

01:18:33.000 But, along with that, new activist movements are emerging and new techniques for wellness.

01:18:40.000 In my opinion, these two things must align.

01:18:42.000 As Nick just said, we have resources within us, individually and collectively.

01:18:47.000 Tomorrow we're going to be doing a fantastic story about misinformation, disinformation and censorship.

01:18:51.000 You know we've been victims of that stuff.

01:18:53.000 We are launching a book club and our first book is, of course, of course, 1984.

01:18:59.000 We now, though, are going to slip over to the Stay Free AF community, and we are going to tap like we had a rat under our hat with my friend Nick Ortner.

01:19:09.000 Join us there.

01:19:10.000 See you in a second.

01:19:11.000 See you tomorrow for another stream.

01:19:13.000 Remember that you can watch this show anytime for free on Rumble.

01:19:17.000 Stay free.

01:19:19.000 If you're in the community, see you tomorrow.

01:19:21.000 If not, stay free.

01:19:22.000 Ta-ra. 0.75

01:19:23.000 Many switching, switch on, switch off.

Stay Free - Russel Brand - October 20, 2022

#017 | The Mask Is Slipping. Plus Special Guest Nick Ortner

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