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00:06:26.000Marty Makary is going to be on the show.
00:06:27.000Marty Makary, if you've been in this space for any time at all, you will know that he's been outspoken on the subject of medical industry exploitation and big pharma corruption.
00:06:40.000We'll be talking to him about his new book, but we'll also be talking about the Numerous pandemic-related stories that are still in the headlines right now.
00:06:49.000We'll also be talking about Ryan Roof's $150,000 bounty to assassinate Trump.
00:06:55.000Doesn't seem like very much money for, well, I would say that it would be a risky endeavour, but some plucky new assassin seems to turn up every day, don't they, to take a little shot at the Trump title.
00:07:08.000So let's get Straight into the Giddy Whirlwind Bear.
00:07:29.000All of you guys, I hope you will enjoy our chat with Asim Malhotra and our interview with Vivek, which you'll see on Rumble tomorrow that's already up for your Awaken Wonders.
00:07:39.000And in Russell Brand's stand-up breakdown, we will be talking about George Carlin and his incredible influence on political comedy.
00:07:44.000Let me know your favourite George Carlin quotes in the chat on Rumble.
00:07:49.000And in locals, if you're watching this on YouTube, we'll be there for about 15 minutes, but after a while you have to accept this fact.
00:07:57.000YouTube as a platform promotes corporate news.
00:08:01.000Yes, for commercial reasons, but also in order to control the information that you get access to.
00:08:07.000Gone are the days when YouTube was a free-for-all, not even a free-for-all, a meritocracy where the best information would reach the most people.
00:08:15.000Now it is a curated space controlled by the same kind of legacy media interests that will have you believing that saints are sinners and that sinners are saints.
00:08:25.000That devils ought be worshipped and that your own awakening is your own problem.
00:08:31.000You've seen how the legacy media behaves.
00:08:37.000And you know that eventually you'll have to click the link, come over to Rumble where whatever challenges you may have read, Rumble receive.
00:08:45.000Banned in France because they wouldn't take down Russia today.
00:08:48.000Banned in Brazil because they're controlling free speech over there.
00:09:02.000And free speech is going to be more necessary than ever because, I mean, Of course, we're all hoping that Kamala Harris and Tim Waltz win, right?
00:09:13.000Those guys, they're fantastic, they're definitely not centrists, remotely authoritarian, ciphers of globalism, no way.
00:09:22.000In the event, and we can but pray, we can but pray, that they are able to form a globalist administration in the once glorious United States of America, Hillary Clinton could be on board!
00:10:22.000There will be no cessation in at least one of the needless global wars in which human beings or part of one human family senselessly slaughter one another so that the interests of the military-industrial complex can continue to be fulfilled.
00:10:39.000Vladimir Zelensky is in the United States visiting munitions factories and along with one of his chums I believe he's even signing bombs that may yet one day be used to kill I mean and this is just another hope innocent children I mean we could be so close from November onwards we could have A proper globalist, totalitarian system, where in every country in the world we have some well-meaning bureaucrat telling you they're here to help, whether it's Justin Trudeau in Canada, Macron in France, Kiss Starmer here in the UK or Kamala Harris in the United States.
00:11:17.000All of them Oozing mawkishness and maudlin sentimentality, brows knitted, globalist edicts marauding forward, uninterrupted, for censorship will surely then be fully immersive and totalitarian.
00:11:36.000We can cross our fingers and pray that one of the bombs that drop on the children we love Will have been signed by Zelensky himself.
00:11:43.000Let's have a- Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky is in the United States to present what he calls a victory plan to President Joe Biden and presidential hopefuls Kamala Harris and Donald Trump.
00:11:54.000In Pennsylvania, Zelensky toured an ammunitions factory that produces artillery shells.
00:11:59.000He thanked the workers there and he told them that Ukraine needs more of what they make.
00:12:04.000Zelensky and the state governor even put their signatures on some of the shells.
00:12:10.000This is the appalling crossover that's been taking place between the worlds of show business and the world of politics for some time now.
00:12:19.000Ultimately, show business is a managed reality where you are sold stories, narratives and artefacts that create certain states Within you increasingly we're beginning to realize that it's populated perhaps by individuals with connections that seem somewhat dubious.
00:12:35.000I'm of course referring to the ongoing Diddy investigations and the mysteries that surround the death of Jeffrey Epstein whose client list still hasn't been released as yet.
00:12:49.000Who were taking those trips on those planes?
00:12:51.000Suddenly you have a figure like Zelensky himself, a former show business personality, presented as a statesman making appeals for revenue and blood money on...
00:13:04.000Corporate TV shows on award shows turning up and glad-handing JP Morgan and making all sorts of requests and requirements for further ultimately US taxpayer money and British taxpayer money to perpetuate a war that's unwinnable against the nuclear superpower and in the end when you know that the simulacrum is glitching when you know That this synthetic reality that they lay like renewed scales across your eyes is beginning to become evident.
00:13:34.000You have the ludicrous and obscene spectacle of Zelensky signing bombs.
00:13:39.000Imagine for a moment that that was Donald Trump with his characteristic zigzag heart monitor mad signature on a set of missiles bound for who knows where.
00:14:00.000Except for people that profit from war.
00:14:02.000And in order to profit from war, you have to present war as kind of either necessary, or fun, or innocuous, or as a form of entertainment.
00:14:11.000perhaps this began as Baudrillard offered us with the Iraq war spectacle.
00:14:16.000Certainly now in the Ukraine-Russia conflict we've become detached from the reality of
00:14:22.000hundreds of thousands of dead Ukrainians and dead Russians and an end to that war, an end
00:14:28.000to the conflict in the Middle East and an end to increasing hostilities between China
00:14:34.000and the United States of America is surely what all of us require.
00:14:37.000But when I say all of us I'm of course excluding the very powerful elites that appear to benefit
00:14:43.000from ongoing conflict, ongoing fear, ongoing death, ongoing war.
00:14:49.000Some big demands of its Western allies.
00:14:52.000For its part, Ukraine's strategy continues to involve hitting inside Russian territory with drones.
00:14:58.000Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky says his detailed victory plan could help turn the tide.
00:15:05.000He says it gives Ukraine the quote strongest possible position to bring peace closer.
00:15:11.000The strongest possible position to bring peace closer.
00:15:18.000That does seem like an extraordinary claim while signing bombs in a munitions factory.
00:15:23.000If you've done any investigations into some of the relationships between Ukrainian government officials and the Ukrainian government broadly and an organisation like Black Rock, if you've done any research into the origins of that conflict, you will be extremely dubious that a peaceful ...outcome is in the offing if this is the path that we, and I say we because we're funding it, continue down... ...have seen elements of the victory plan and are confident that it can work.
00:15:52.000But Joe Biden will be the first person to see the entire plan.
00:15:57.000doesn't... ...but he may not remember it... ...war may continue for years.
00:16:03.000Okay let's have a look at Glenn Greenwald's response and I think Charlie Kirk's response in there.
00:16:08.000But this is Charlie Kirk, a rumble pundit and conservative commentator.
00:16:12.000Joe Biden and Kamala Harris just flew a foreign leader into a swing state on a military plane during early voting of an election year so that this foreign leader could campaign on their behalf against Trump.
00:16:21.000This is an overt foreign election interference.
00:16:23.000The direct use of foreign power with own interest, the middle and American elections, it's all financed with
00:17:02.000Get Kamala Harris on Oprah Winfrey and just Have a cavalcade of celebrities lighting up the screen at a time when people are surely questioning the legitimacy of celebrity as an institution due to some of the matters I've already mentioned, the ongoing Diddy investigation, the likelihood that the Weinstein problem is pretty widespread and the fact that the Epstein files
00:17:27.000Not Epstein files, client list ain't being released.
00:17:31.000You will be long dead in a cold cold earth before we see any of that stuff.
00:17:37.000But the Kamala Harris campaign does have, in addition to the support of 200 former Bush staffers and the whole Cheney family, 700 national security and military leaders endorse Harris.
00:17:50.000I wonder what that means we would have to look forward to in the next four years.
00:17:54.000Probably a lot of the kind of peace that Zelensky's selling us.
00:18:01.000More than 700 current and former national security leaders and former military officials are endorsing Vice President Kamala Harris, signing onto a letter writing that Harris defends America's democratic ideals while former President Donald Trump endangers them.
00:18:23.000Why was it important for you all to put out this letter now?
00:18:27.000To educate and inform the American people that former President Trump is not qualified to be President of the United States again.
00:18:37.000Vice President Harris provides the strong, consistent, rational leadership that our country needs at this time.
00:18:45.000Our national security and our interests Depends on strong, rational, consistent leadership, which she will provide.
00:18:54.000Not impulsiveness as former President Donald Trump.
00:19:00.000The military-industrial complex, along with warmongers like the Cheney family, support Kamala Harris and Donald Trump is derided for saying, I want the killing to stop!
00:19:10.000That's the kind of stuff that passes as ridiculous so that the cavalcade of condemnation can continue before we get to Ryan Roof's 150,000 Quite low assassination attempt offer.
00:19:22.000I mean, that's not a big number, Ryan.
00:19:26.000Another one of these would-be assassins with a peculiar past and peculiar connections and a low budget, let's face it, when it comes to recruiting other assassins.
00:19:47.000To see the conclusion of this story and indeed for our coverage on Kamala's curious appearance on Oprah.
00:19:58.000It's extraordinary to me, click that link, click it, to still see the idea of celebrity offered up as an endorsement.
00:20:06.000Who among us, let me know in the comments in the chat, believe that a kind of the offering of celebrity advocacy is meaningful as we learn more and more about the deep corruption in those spaces?
00:20:19.000Let's have a look now at Kamala Harris appearing on Oprah with A good many famous folk and let me know if you still live in a space where that can actually influence you.
00:20:33.000Cammy is just to follow the WEF recommendations.
00:20:38.000Let me have a quick, let's have a look at some of these in celebrity endorsements and the celebrity fanfare continuing.
00:20:45.000To support this campaign that likely, based on some of the other endorsements, the non-celebrity, the military industrial complex and national security endorsements, will probably lead to the perpetuation of more unnecessary, but profitable, for them, costly for you, wars.
00:21:08.000On a Detroit stage resembling the set for her long-running talk show, the host interviewed Vice President Harris with a live audience and thousands of virtual guests.
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00:22:50.000I'm just going to press play now and it will continue.
00:22:52.000Oprah asked Harris about suddenly soaring to the top of the ticket when President Biden stepped down.
00:22:59.000Like that's such favourable language, isn't it?
00:23:01.000Suddenly soaring to the top of the ticket when Biden stepped down.
00:23:05.000That poor old codger was ushered and cuddled and smashed out of that position, more bewildered than he was in the preceding month.
00:23:15.000And Kamala Harris has been packaged and managed and Shellacked and shined in order to appear like a favourable candidate rather than just the latest cipher for a set of corporate globalist interests that plainly prefer war to peace because there's no profit in peace, baby.
00:23:33.000Felt a sense of responsibility, to be honest with you.
00:23:38.000And with that comes a sense of purpose.
00:23:42.000Okay, well, purpose is what it's all about, and Ryan Ruth clearly had a pretty nefarious one when he was found on Trump's golf course with an assault rifle.
00:23:53.000Let's have a look at the news story covering that.
00:23:56.000Why is it being so... Why is this story being amplified in such an unusual manner?
00:24:02.000After we cover this, we will be with Dr. Marty Makary, MD, Talking about his forthcoming book, Blindspots.
00:24:10.000Very excited to have that conversation.
00:24:12.000First of all, Ryan Roof offered $150,000, not enough to assassinate Donald Trump.
00:24:20.000Well, the man accused of trying to assassinate former President Donald Trump reportedly leaving behind a pre-written note.
00:24:28.000And again, this released by justice officials, and we have it for you here, in that the fact that he did plan this attack, even predicting his failure, plus offering a reward of $150,000 to anyone who could, quote, complete the job.
00:24:42.000This is all according to a federal report.
00:24:43.000The note indicating Ruth had reportedly been planning the assassination for a long time.
00:24:48.000If you're interested in assassinating Donald Trump, why not call this number?
00:24:53.000You, too, could earn $150,000 by assassinating Donald Trump.
00:25:07.000One of the things that's striking here is, you know, we were told when there was the shooting at Covenant School that we couldn't release the manifesto because it might inspire other shootings.
00:25:18.000So to see DOJ release this letter with a bounty, frankly, a $150,000 bounty, you know, it kind of leads one to believe, you know, are they trying to inspire, right?
00:25:41.000To anyone that would make another attempt on Trump's life is extraordinary and anomalous when it comes to the usual way in which such things are reported in order to avoid copycat strikes.
00:25:52.000But it's hardly surprising when Zelensky is being trotted out as a kind of campaign animal, signing missiles, bound for the houses of as yet unnamed children, is
00:26:04.000extraordinary to see the lack of ethics and morality behind this centralist, globalist political
00:26:10.000movement, and it is a requirement to support any potential disruption. And I believe that
00:26:16.000with the alliance between Bobby Kennedy and others, along with the existing MAGA movement,
00:26:21.000there is precisely that, an opportunity to disrupt a trajectory towards further globalism,
00:26:27.000corporatism, citizen management, and ongoing medical nightmares.
00:27:16.000So like the likes of you, true chimeras, sensitive hearts, Paulie D, true seer, any of you that are in that kind of neck of the woods, in that kind of hood, you're welcome to come say hello.
00:27:24.000Just email us at tickets at Russell Brand, but you've got to be a member of our community to participate in that.
00:27:30.000Time now for a fantastic conversation that I'm really quite enthralled to be having.
00:27:35.000Since the beginning of the pandemic period we were consistently regularly quoting the work of Dr Marty Makary, Johns Hopkins professor and New York Times best-selling author.
00:27:46.000Dr Makari has been a visiting professor at over 25 medical schools and has published over 250 scientific peer-reviewed articles.
00:27:53.000His research focuses on the appropriateness of medical care, administrative waste and the impact of health recommendations on society.
00:27:59.000It was only during the pandemic period that he rose to notoriety beyond the field of his expertise because of his outspoken views both on various mandates, medications that you will insist on calling mRNA technology, the lack of clinical trials Prior to the release and near-mandating, if not actual mandating, of many of these drugs.
00:28:19.000Dr. Marty Makary, thank you so much for joining us on Stay Free with Russell Brand.
00:28:32.000It goes way beyond what we learned of you in the pandemic period, that you are a very bold and brave, brilliant man willing to confront some pretty powerful interests.
00:28:40.000In fact, you've been making comparable claims where necessary in other areas where the pharmaceutical industry has overreached when it comes to claims for some of its
00:28:51.000products, where it has concealed the negative impact of some of its medicines. I wonder if you
00:28:56.000can talk us through some of the most significant revelations in your book Blind Spots,
00:29:00.000whether that's the opioid crisis and the ludicrous claims that opioids are not addictive. I
00:29:06.000can testify personally that they are very, very, very addictive.
00:29:10.000Can you talk us through the sort of general context of blind spots and how in a sense the framework for the disaster that was the pandemic had long since been established institutionally by the pharmaceutical industry?
00:29:34.000And there's a psychology to it, sort of surrendering one's independent thinking and no longer being open-minded, even though one may claim to be open-minded, and just signing up for the herd mentality, the bandwagon effect.
00:29:47.000And in medicine, that group think has done tremendous damage.
00:29:51.000COVID was a little peak, broader medical establishment works, but we've got a small group of people at the top and they've gotten a lot of stuff wrong, igniting some modern day health crises, saying opioids were not addictive, igniting the opioid epidemic.
00:30:05.000Saying that kids should avoid peanuts until they're three years of age, including peanut butter.
00:30:10.000That ignited immune sensitivities and ignited the modern day peanut allergy epidemic.
00:30:16.000And there's a long list of things that the government has gotten wrong, putting out misinformation on the food pyramid and ignoring the food supply.
00:30:26.000We have an epidemic of chronic diseases.
00:30:29.000And until recently, no one has been talking about the fact that half of our nation's children are obese or overweight.
00:31:08.000And we like to blame patients for their diseases in medicine, but it may be that adults have done this to children.
00:31:15.000So we've got to stop and look at our food supply.
00:31:17.000It's been something that's been in one of the big blind spots of modern medicine.
00:31:22.000Callie Means is a regular contributor to our show and from our conversations we've understood the toxicity in food, the endemic infusion of foods with highly processed ingredients.
00:31:37.000But I'm only now becoming aware, Doctor, of the addictive component.
00:31:42.000And that peanut story, I'd never heard that before.
00:31:46.000Who among us isn't annoyed that they can't let their own children take peanuts to school because of the allergy?
00:31:52.000Who among us doesn't feel a pang of fury when you're told on an aeroplane that you can't eat nuts?
00:31:57.000I had no idea that that was a result of poorly considered advice.
00:32:02.000Can you tell us, in particular, what is it that's creating the addictive component when it comes to these toxins, or poisons as you call them, in food?
00:32:13.000Well, first of all, Callie and Casey Means are doing great work.
00:32:15.000And the three of us, along with some others, met up with RFK Jr.
00:32:21.000and spoke to members at a Senate roundtable yesterday to get more attention on this.
00:32:29.000has said, can we love our children more than we hate each other?
00:32:33.000Is this something we can all agree on?
00:32:35.000This is something that was a champion cause for the Democrat and liberal elite in the United States.
00:32:41.000And RFK basically joined with Trump to say they are willing to take on big pharma and big food and big ag.
00:32:49.000So we were talking about that yesterday.
00:32:51.000As you know, the food scientists moved over to the food industry and they figured out how to make these foods attractive and addictive.
00:33:00.000Fruit Loops, made by Kellogg, has two versions.
00:33:03.000One for Canada, where all the food additives and colorings have been banned, and then one for the United States, where they add all these chemicals to make the cereal look prettier and brighter, and they can market it to children better.
00:33:17.000The immune system in the gut is reacting.
00:33:21.000Not with the big inflammatory storm to all these chemicals and seed oils and pesticides, but it's reacting with a low-grade inflammation that's constant.
00:33:31.000It's always there, and it makes people feel sick and sad.
00:33:51.000There's discussions in political circles now about how the Biden administration was able to get Medicare to negotiate drug prices for 10 commercial drugs.
00:34:02.000Well, the best way to lower drug costs in America are to stop taking drugs we don't need.
00:34:09.000We are going to save supposedly $6 billion from that program in a healthcare economy that's $4.5 trillion and expanding by $200 billion each year.
00:34:20.000These are not addressing the root causes of our broken healthcare system.
00:34:25.000These are shiny objects around the periphery.
00:34:27.000They may have their merits, but we've got to address the root causes of our chronic disease epidemic.
00:34:35.000This problem is so fundamental, almost, well in fact, animal, the idea that the food we
00:34:42.000are eating is intoxicated, making us sick and addicted, that as you indicated, arguments
00:34:51.000about the ability to control the prices of 10 drugs, or even cultural issues that have
00:34:57.000a lot of emotion attached to them and tend to define the debates and conversation around
00:35:03.000election cycles seem ludicrously esoteric and ancillary compared to something like at
00:35:11.000an institutional and international, but in particular in your country, level, we are
00:35:17.000eating food that is poisoning us, perhaps because of a conspiracy, even if not an explicit
00:35:23.000conspiracy, the kind of conspiracy that emerges when interests converge, to have people eat
00:35:30.000addictive food continually and remain sick.
00:35:33.000How is it, Doctor, that something so fundamental So ubiquitous and necessary as the standard of the food that people eat isn't dominating legacy media spaces.
00:35:47.000Why are we not seeing this communicated?
00:35:50.000Instead of sort of talking about, why don't you try this diet for six months?
00:35:52.000So if you had to go intermittent fasting, this product might make your hair look nice.
00:35:57.000Why are we not talking about something that's so pivotal and fundamental?
00:36:01.000Because our so-called healthcare experts, our leaders, have distracted us from these major issues, the root causes, and instead tell us that the problem in healthcare is that we're not prescribing enough, we're not seeing enough patients and generating enough money at our hospitals.
00:36:20.000We've done a terrible thing to doctors.
00:36:22.000We've told them, focus on billing and coding and seeing patients in short visits, and we're going to measure you by your throughput.
00:36:30.000And we play this game, and we're running and operating, and no one is saying, stop, what is going on?
00:36:36.000All of these chronic diseases have gone up largely from a poisoned food supply.
00:36:41.000If another country did this to us, poisoned our food supply, making half of our nation's children overweight and obese, driving up rates of cancer and autoimmune disease and autism and all these problems, We would consider that an act of war.
00:36:55.000So thankfully now we're finally talking about this.
00:36:58.000We're challenging the medical establishment, and that's what I'm trying to do in this book, Blind Spots.
00:37:03.000Maybe we need to talk about school lunch programs, not just putting every kid on Ozempic.
00:37:07.000Maybe we need to talk about treating diabetes with cooking classes, not just throwing insulin at people.
00:37:13.000And maybe we need to talk about environmental exposures that cause cancer, not just the chemo to treat it.
00:37:18.000We've got to talk about food as medicine and exposures that drive body inflammation as the root This is all unpacked in more detail in Martin Makary's book Blind Spots.
00:37:36.000We're posting a link in the description everywhere and I endorse this book wholeheartedly, aggressively as a matter of fact.
00:37:48.000One of the things that becomes Clear, is the reason that you can't have the conversation that's required, the reason that you can't act on the wisdom that you've accumulated, I mean when I say one cannot, when governments can't, when regulatory bodies can't, is because in each of the examples you listed, in order to address them you would have to unbuckle and decouple such potent interests as it would amount to a kind of revolution.
00:38:14.000Before long wouldn't you be saying that we should in general eat food, That was either grown or reared close to the people that are eating it.
00:38:23.000Wouldn't it mean in the end a kind of revision of all of our social systems that sooner or later are attached to principles of power and institutions of power that maintain the totalitarian control of both information and systems of communication precisely so that that reckoning does not take place.
00:38:46.000In short, isn't what you're discussing so revolutionary that it amounts to more than supporting brilliant people like Bobby Kennedy who are bringing this issue to the forefront of people's attention?
00:38:56.000It amounts really to a revolution, Doctor.
00:39:00.000Yeah, we need courage to tackle the hammerlock that big pharma and big food have on our American healthcare system or healthcare system in general.
00:39:55.000It's been in one of the blind spots of modern medicine.
00:39:57.000But it turns out a lot of things affect that balance of bacteria that live in the gut that are involved in digestion and training the immune system and produce serotonin involved in mood.
00:40:09.000And studies now are showing, and I go through these studies in the book, when you give a kid an antibiotic they don't need, you're carpet bombing that microbiome.
00:41:12.000We are living at a time where control is being increased exponentially, usually under the auspices of care, for to tell people that you were Exerting authority for authority's sake would surely be to provoke their ire and opposition.
00:41:27.000When we get back from this brief message, Dr. Martin Makary, I would love to talk to you about the revelations of the 2019 to 2022 period where you were most outspoken when it came to all matters connected to the pandemic.
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00:43:09.000Dr Marty Makary, during the pandemic period, I have to thank you personally.
00:43:13.000You were one of our chief sources of information.
00:43:16.000We were continually citing your articles and using your content in order to explain to our audience what was happening, as increasingly we became aware that we had been lied to.
00:43:28.000You've always been incredibly outspoken on this subject.
00:43:32.000I wonder if you can tell us, it's a very broad question, what you feel the pandemic period illustrated, and I'll shut up in a minute, but is it true, in your opinion, that many of the medications, the mRNA technology, for example, It has led to an increase in cancers.
00:43:54.000You said about an increase in pancreatic cancer, but we were talking about your book Blind Spots and the sort of more generalized toxicity of food and negligence within medicine.
00:44:03.000I wonder what you consider to be the most serious learnings from the pandemic period and the most egregious transgressions of the pharmaceutical industry and the government in that time.
00:44:15.000Well, look, we saw a group thinking it's naked power right in front of us, and it scared a lot of people.
00:44:20.000They lost trust in doctors and hospitals.
00:44:23.000A study that just looked at trust in doctors and hospitals in the United States.
00:44:27.000And by the way, I was born in Liverpool, England, so I'm very interested in things that are happening in England.
00:44:33.000And I think my book hits bookstores in England next month.
00:44:52.000One of the greatest propagators of misinformation was the United States government, telling us that cloth masks had to be on a toddler for three years, arguing that schools had to be closed for safety reasons for a year and nine months, pushing COVID vaccine boosters on young, healthy children, ignoring natural immunity.
00:45:12.000I just saw that the Harris Walls campaign has a requirement for the COVID vaccine.
00:45:24.000And so you see this groupthink, this sort of intellectual dishonesty to just stick to a party line so we can get the stupid people in America to do what we want them to do.
00:45:38.000Because when I did studies on natural immunity, including one of the largest studies in our top medical journal on natural immunity, It turns out that public health officials privately told me, yes, Marty, we know natural immunity is real and effective, but we can't say that because it may cause someone to not want to get the vaccine.
00:45:57.000We saw Governments do one of the most dangerous things that a government can do.
00:46:02.000In the United States, we fired the two top vaccine experts at the FDA when they opposed the COVID vaccine booster in young healthy people.
00:46:12.000We reamed it through with an emergency use authorization without requiring the proper trials.
00:46:16.000We forced it on children and then we silenced and censored the doctors Who dissented with a different opinion.
00:46:29.000That is the most dangerous thing a government can do and we just witnessed that.
00:46:36.000We're approaching an election and it is in our conversation so far that two of the subjects that we're discussing, food is poisonous, there needs to be a massive reckoning that will lead to the incredible power of big food over agriculture and likely media and the relationship between big pharma and big food.
00:46:55.000Now you're explaining that during the pandemic period the Medical malpractice, government ineptitude, media negligence reached an unprecedented, or at least somewhat unique, peak.
00:47:10.000Why are these issues not at the forefront of everyone's mind?
00:47:14.000How is information being managed and controlled so successfully?
00:47:19.000And how do you intend, other than of course through your book Blindspots, which is out in the US now and will be out in the UK soon, planning to ensure that people are equipped with the necessary facts in order to conduct these conversations and resist what appears to be an endless deluge that's marching us further into the direction that would expedite further problems of the nature that just outlined.
00:47:41.000Well Russell, a bunch of us are so sick of the dogma and groupthink of the medical establishment misleading the public.
00:47:48.000That we've decided to go directly to the American people through media, through books, through you name it, and tell them not just during COVID about the misinformation that was spread about COVID, but also about the other misinformation the government is still propagating today.
00:48:06.000Saying that the food pyramid is the way we should design our nutrition programs in the United States.
00:48:12.000Saying that hormone replacement therapy for women that go through menopause Causes breast cancer when the data never supported it.
00:48:19.000These are incredible, massive recommendations.
00:48:22.000I mean, the number one thing we told patients for 60 years was to avoid saturated fat.
00:48:27.000That was based on the flawed food pyramid written by the food industry.
00:48:32.000And to this day, we still have incredible conflicts of interest.
00:48:35.000So a bunch of us are saying we're going to go directly to the public.
00:48:39.000Myself, Peter Atiyah, Casey Means, Callie Means, Vinay Prasad.
00:48:42.000We're just, we are going directly to public because civil discourse is good for medical science.
00:48:50.000When you allow experts to debate and wrestle with different topics, you can learn and grow and that's how we discover new things.
00:48:59.000When we have a small group of people making all the decisions from the top, just shooting from the hip, They have a lousy track record telling us opioids were not addictive, igniting the peanut allergy epidemic, the food pyramid, making women suffer through menopause without hormone therapy with the dogma it causes breast cancer, saying antibiotics won't hurt you, separating babies from birth.
00:49:24.000The medical establishment can do tremendous harm when it does not use good science and it rules with groupthink.
00:49:33.000One of the pieces of your research, or at least research that you have publicised, is that 1 in 50 people had a medically attended adverse event as a result of taking one of the mRNA shots.
00:49:50.000It seems like the kind of thing that people should be aware of.
00:49:54.000And I was also struck by the information that a healthy five-year-old would take 72 Covid vaccine shots in a lifetime.
00:50:02.000I wonder if you could just talk me through how a couple of data points that seem so extreme have been completely either normalized or ignored.
00:50:15.000When I see a patient now in the hospital, my electronic health care record system automatically creates an alert that says, this patient is not up to date with their latest COVID shot.
00:50:28.000You know, this sort of absolutism, this hyper enthusiasm around this religion to get everyone a COVID booster.
00:50:36.000There's no clinical trials to support it.
00:50:38.000But this religion, I wish we could take 1% of that absolutism and talk about our poison food supply and what we're doing to children and childhood obesity and diabetes.
00:50:50.000The way that this bandwagon effect gets so fixated on things when the medical priesthood decides This is what we're going to focus on.
00:51:08.000There are other people who are friends or relatives of friends.
00:51:12.000Most of them are some relative or close friend of a friend of mine.
00:51:16.000If I know of three people, how many more people out there have been injured?
00:51:20.000We don't have good data because our medical oligarchs I've decided to weaponize research funding and they don't want us to look at these issues.
00:51:30.000I had to scrape together the funds from philanthropists to do the big study out of Johns Hopkins and when we published it in our number one medical journal, The social media outlets took it down.
00:51:41.000So this is a very unhealthy environment.
00:51:43.000And that's why many of us are going directly to the public.
00:51:46.000I want people to know the truth around so many health recommendations.
00:51:50.000And I didn't talk about COVID in the book, but I wanted to go directly to the public and talk to them about the epidemic of medical dogma that still looms large in so many areas of health.
00:52:03.000You've called it a priesthood, and certainly the degree of psychological and even spiritual control, because there were a litany of peculiar behaviours that emerged during that period that were certainly not rational, even though they marched under the livery of precisely that orthodoxy.
00:52:23.000It seems that there has been a deep and pervasive ideological capture.
00:52:28.000Even to read, as I am now, that the FDA cleared the vaccine without any human outcomes data seems extraordinary, even though it's, of course, obvious that there can't have been any, you know, real-time outcomes when it comes to, for example, long-term effects.
00:52:45.000And is it also true, Doctor, that the FDA has authorised a new Novavax COVID-19 vaccines, again, without any clinical data?
00:52:56.000Well, the Novavax vaccine is a more traditional platform.
00:53:00.000My concern is when you have reports of mRNA vaccines causing sudden cardiac related deaths and you don't look into it and then you declare to the public that it's safe, it may be safe, but when you have no science, you are Engendering a tremendous amount of distrust and it can take decades to undo that.
00:53:20.000Remember the Tuskegee experiment in the 1960s in the United States where they took African-Americans and infected them and let them have syphilis in the late stages causing terrible late stages of disease in a controlled environment.
00:53:44.000That horrible, barbaric experiment is still fresh in the minds of many African Americans.
00:53:50.000And while many people think it was Republicans that were the most unvaccinated community, no.
00:53:55.000It was the African American community, by proportion, with the lowest vaccination rates with the COVID vaccine because they have been burned by this medical establishment and their arrogance and elitism, putting out things with such absolutism, When there was really never strong clinical trial data to support many of the recommendations that we have out there today.
00:54:18.000The study on Paxlovid, remember the Paxlovid, the antiviral?
00:54:45.000And the trial finished nearly two years ago.
00:54:48.000Why didn't we hear about it in those two years?
00:54:51.000This is the slow walking of manipulating the American public to serve the interests of Big Pharma.
00:54:56.000You've said that going forward that you and your cadre of fellow open-hearted good faith experts are going to bypass the challenges that many people face by going directly to the public.
00:55:14.000What ...defines your message going forward.
00:55:25.000How ought people to approach even their own physicians when it seems at times that, you know, given the example you gave of like, you know, reminders telling you that people need to take their shots, that doctors are in some cases merely administrators of the will and intention of Big Pharma.
00:55:44.000How do we, as dislocated and bewildered individuals looking with trust to physicians, redress the imbalance that you've outlined with such shocking clarity over the course of our conversation?
00:56:01.000Well, look, people need to know about groupthink in the medical establishment.
00:56:04.000They need to know where there's good science and where there's not.
00:56:07.000And you want a doctor where you can have a conversation, a doctor who listens, a doctor who will say, I don't know when that's the right answer.
00:56:15.000A lot of times during COVID, you never heard it during COVID.
00:56:19.000And after COVID, I don't know about you, Russell, I've not heard a single apology for any one of the catastrophic COVID policies, including not allowing people to say goodbye to their dying loved ones for nearly two years in the hospital.
00:56:33.000That is one of the worst human rights violations I could envision we do to people.
00:56:40.000We did horrible things in these arrogant policies, not at a brash moment when we had to make a quick emergency decision, But we held on to these cruel policies that harmed the public and children.
00:56:53.000And the untold story of COVID is its disproportional effect on poor and minority communities.
00:56:59.000So people, I think, are hungry for some humility, some honesty.
00:57:04.000And I find as a doctor, when you're honest with people and you're forthcoming and you're You can even evolve your position as new information comes in.
00:57:12.000If you're honest and transparent, people can be very forgiving.
00:57:25.000I mean, the editors of the New England Journal of Medicine They never leave.
00:57:31.000And so we are now seeing a new, just like in your world of media, you went from corporate media to a bunch of citizen journalists and people out there talking about what the main corporate media is not talking about.
00:58:14.000Also, it's clear how, again, Eve, in the field that you're working in, Medical excellence, science, that the ability to communicate to large audiences instantaneously would suggest a decentralization of power, would suggest an ability to challenge the phrase you keep using, groupthink,
00:58:36.000Which for me means that there must be such an entrenched institutionalization that an industry or a discipline, is discipline a better term?
00:58:45.000A discipline that's meant to be built upon data and continuing evolution and debate and conversation and amendment and clinical trials and conversation and empiricism has become dogma.
00:58:57.000That's extraordinary you use the phrase priesthood as I pointed out a little earlier.
00:59:03.000And I can see that whether it's in the area of, you know, that I work in, media and communications, whether it's in politics or medicine or just because ultimately I suppose it becomes about the distribution of and dissemination of information.
00:59:16.000Centralized authorities are attempting to grip onto power through by controlling information by controlling and
01:00:36.000And that there's a reluctance to engage in inquiry.
01:00:40.000And look, the reason we need a civil discourse among experts, among physicians, and not central planners in medicine.
01:00:48.000Central planners don't work well in governments, they don't work well in medicine either.
01:00:53.000And the reason we have to have this civil discourse is that the group think and get it wrong.
01:00:57.000They can lack common They can lack common sense sometimes.
01:01:02.000When a Native American Indian tribe called the Pima Indians had their land destroyed by settlers and ranchers in the New Mexico, Arizona area, and their water supply dried up, their land was destroyed.
01:01:41.000What did the medical establishment do?
01:01:45.000They dispatched genetic scientists to draw the blood of these Indians to identify if there was a gene that was making them overweight and diabetic.
01:02:52.000And mRNA may not be the silver bullet that everybody thinks it is because of the group think.
01:03:00.000Dr. Martin Makary, thank you so much for this conversation.
01:03:02.000Thanks for everything you did over the pandemic period and obviously the work you've done preceding it.
01:03:07.000Dr. Martin Makary's book, Blindspots, is available now in the United States of America and it will be out in the UK next month.
01:03:15.000There's a link in the description that will take you directly to it.
01:03:18.000Buy it, read it, educate yourself because the systems of control are not about to educate you because they want you fat, unwell, diabetic, woozy, distracted and depressed.
01:03:30.000There's no pathway out according to their doctrines and dogma.
01:03:34.000But there are good physicians and good thought leaders out there and thank you Dr. Marty Makary for being one of them and for joining us today.
01:04:40.000People like that line in England, bend me over backwards on me hostess trolley
01:04:46.000Victoria Wood in her other comedic work, her sitcoms and stuff, very good at the mundanity of British life.
01:04:53.000We're an artifact like an hostess trolley, you know, a trolley that you'd wheel cakes or cups of tea into your living room from the kitchen in.