On this week's episode of the podcast, the boys take a deep dive into the life and career of actor and comedian Russell Brand. They discuss his early days in the entertainment industry, how he came to be an atheist, and how he went on to become one of the most successful actors of all time. They also take a look at some of Russell's most famous movies, including Terrence Howard's Iron Man and James Cameron's Black Iron Man.
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00:02:05.000Did any of you see any of the Terrence Howard interview?
00:03:23.000We wanted something on 9-11 because it's the...
00:03:26.000There was a documentary that came out in 2007 called Zeitgeist, and it had three parts to it.
00:03:31.000The first part was on religion, which is my next pick when it's my turn again, because I want to see you guys answer to some of that stuff, some of that atheist stuff.
00:03:39.000Actually quite responsible for my atheism, to be fair, but really good.
00:03:43.000Part two is on 9-11, and part three is on the global financial system.
00:04:44.000Now, this Zeitgeist movie, I feel like this was the one that I watched that said stuff like they found, they claimed to find terrorists I was like, no, they didn't.
00:04:56.000Or the first time I heard about Building 7, excuse me, I reckon that 9-11...
00:05:07.000The tower, and even maybe the twin towers, you go even that far.
00:05:10.000That has sort of like, that's mythically represented a bunch.
00:05:13.000A brilliant academic and philosopher that I was friends with for a while.
00:05:18.000You know, a lot of people don't make the cut.
00:05:19.000Like, you know, sort of when you, if you become a hotly controversial figure, some people are like, whoa, I'm still making my money out of this shit.
00:05:32.000Professor Brad Evans, he said that these two events, the fall of the Berlin Wall and 9-11, And epochal, in the philosophy, I think means, like, era shifting.
00:05:44.000Like, it's like, Foucault used it a lot.
00:05:47.000The French philosopher and post-structuralist, Michel Foucault.
00:05:50.000But he said that once the Berlin Wall came down, the world was one space now.
00:05:56.000Like it wasn't like there's two, Because I remember I was just a kid.
00:07:00.000I mean, if you look at this current escalations between Israel, Iran, America's obvious involvement.
00:07:09.000Iran have a relationship with Venezuela.
00:07:11.000They have, like, they say Venezuela could start being, like, the sort of Cuba of the 2020s, like, because, you know, part of Iran's deal is, like, you know, when we find war, I think one of the things about modern warfare, and obviously I say this is hardly an expert, is, like, we know we're not going to do, like, it's not going to be America, like, well, we've got nuclear bombs, so fuck you, Iran, it's over, right?
00:07:36.000I think when you're dealing with someone like Eddie Gallagher, our friend here who does a podcast called Shoot Me Straight with our brilliant friend and host here, the beloved Dave Field.
00:07:45.000Eddie Gallagher got in trouble because a member of ISIS was killed on his watch leading to the ridiculous headline, Navy SEAL kills member of ISIS.
00:07:53.000Essentially, a Navy SEAL unit was sent to a company, an Iraqi battalion that was set up in that sort of post-Saddam fall Iraqi army, which basically means a puppet government anyway.
00:08:03.000And the Navy SEALs were like, Following them, helping them out a bit, and they couldn't get too involved because of, I guess, Geneva Convention or whatever militaristic rules might govern warfare.
00:08:13.000So a warrior like Eddie Gallagher is having to sit on his hands in a military situation.
00:08:18.000Well, that in microcosm is all of this, because America's not going to go, we're sending out 10,000 jets, we're going to land troops, we're taking over Iran.
00:08:27.000It's going to be modified war over time.
00:09:24.000Like, you know, like it's so complicated and weird, the involvement of the South.
00:09:28.000Even like level one conspiracy, the involvement of the Saudi Arabians, Building 7, whether There's so many things to unfold and unpack just from this.
00:09:45.000It tells us a lot about the modern world and the way that the modern world is changing, right up to and including this day.
00:09:50.000Because however this war unfolds with Iran, Iran aren't going to...
00:09:53.000Iran are going to have to resort to...
00:09:55.000You know, they're a nation that has relationships with Hezbollah, Hamas, and how they're going to play that shit out for Venezuela and the South.
00:10:35.000Whenever I think about it, because I obviously grew up in the 90s, in the late 80s and early 90s, well, the 90s, and for me, and for a lot of people I speak to, 9-11 was the official end of the 90s.
00:10:47.000I know it was 2001, but up until then, it was great, and then after that, that really just felt like the inflection point, certainly in my lifetime.
00:10:55.000I know a lot of people argue, my mum would argue the 70s was the height, I'm not sure what you'd say Russell, but...
00:11:07.000And it's funny that you say just how much everything has changed in terms of privacy.
00:11:12.000I remember pre-9-11 doing IT and communication technology and stuff like that in school and being on the internet pretty early.
00:11:19.000All of the advice was always, when you're online, don't share any personal information at all.
00:11:24.000Now, look at how much that has changed.
00:11:26.000I know that's mostly with the advent of social media, but now it's, but everything on the internet, like, you know, people live their entire lives online.
00:11:34.000But when it first started, the internet first started mid-90s, it was be careful what you share online.
00:11:38.000And I think that 9-11 is partly responsible for that.
00:11:41.000Of course, social media is the other part of it, but...
00:12:48.000All of the identifiable tiles that cover that space, whether it's Apple, Facebook, Amazon, and things that are less, you know, Palantir, the reason I'm interested in that is because that's sort of secondary.
00:12:59.000And when I found out with that content, and you should watch it, you should watch.
00:13:03.000In fact, have a look at this trailer for our Russell Brand Unpacked of this about Palantir.
00:13:12.000Our primary mission is, in fact, to set a global standard for the world for behaviour.
00:13:17.000OK, just setting a global standard for behaviour.
00:13:20.000Nothing to worry about there, unless you believe in a little thing like freedom.
00:13:25.000Nudges and behaviouralism and BF Skinner and being able to encourage rats down a maze with little pellets of delight might seem like an abstract clinical exercise, but you and I are the rats and our neurology is being manipulated moment by moment.
00:13:42.000The reason I'm interested in that is because Palantir, I'd never even heard of, like, Palantir, really.
00:13:47.000And like, you know, these are giant, powerful organisations that are either going to have favourable relationships with government and that will mean we're exploited by them or unfavourable relationships with government.
00:13:59.000And that means that the government will try and fuck them up.
00:14:02.000That's what like, you know, like when we were talking about the stuff that's happening in my beloved nation, Britain, um...
00:14:13.000Like, when you see Krishna Guru Murphy, the Channel 4 representative, talking to Jess Phillips, the sort of, I guess she's home secretary in my country, you know, secretary of state.
00:14:22.000Like, what was amazing is nowhere in the interview do they say, you wouldn't be having this inquiry if Elon Musk had...
00:14:33.000Tommy Robinson, you would have in jail.
00:14:36.000And X, if you could, you would ban it.
00:15:07.000Are you backing out of the migrant thing?
00:15:09.000I'm not talking about whether you agree with their policies.
00:15:12.000That's secondary and, in fact, by my reckoning, irrelevant.
00:15:15.000What we're experiencing is even a figure like Trump in power seems to have to negotiate with or assess and deal with factors that he's wrong.
00:15:31.000He was not saying, look, when I'm in office, I'm still going to have problems, aren't I?
00:15:35.000We might have to go with Iran, whether I want to or not.
00:15:37.000Or we might have to have some undocumented labour for agriculture and hospitality to function.
00:15:44.000So does that mean Trump's just like a regular politician who says what he needs to say prior to election and governs how he needs to govern?
00:15:51.000Or does it mean that when you get in these institutions, even if you're a popular and charismatic leader with a massive mandate, there are institutions that get under your skin?
00:16:00.000Now, something like this weird fact about Palantir, that Palantir...
00:16:11.000Like, most people in America, I reckon, don't think, of course, yeah, when I think of CIA, I think of the various movie stars that have played CIA agents in my lifetime.
00:16:19.000I don't think, oh, they've got these carve-outs where they have a venture capital arm that sets up private equity and surveillance companies and big tech firms and funds things through USAID.
00:16:29.000Like, we need to have a massive assessment of what a nation is, man.
00:18:27.000You know, we're not like, you know, that dude, you need that dude to get in there and blow up that pipe.
00:18:31.000You know, I think that that's the problem of mass models of government and mass models of control is all of us need a connection to purpose and to God.
00:18:41.000And if you don't feel that you're like, you know, if you leave your job at McDonald's, we're getting someone else to do your job at McDonald's.
00:18:47.000If you sort of feel like, oh, I'm just part of the...
00:18:58.000We bear the molecular signature of divinity within us.
00:19:01.000So I think that the real battle that's happening now is that technology affords us a model that would make our current systems of power obsolete.
00:19:40.000I was thinking about, you know, before with all this stuff with Iran at the moment, I've seen a bunch of fake videos of what looks like mushroom clouds rising over Iran and over Israel.
00:19:49.000And it made me realize, oh, we won't be able to trust video.
00:19:54.000So when it gets to the point where we cannot trust video at all, do we really trust the internet and this level of communication, which is causing so much of a problem?
00:20:03.000And if that happens, do we then go back to only trusting the people around us, therefore, tribal kind of lifestyle?
00:20:09.000Like, to your point, if we can't trust any of the communication online, maybe we will highly value interpersonal communication between a few people, like a tribe, basically.
00:20:21.000That's why you're getting conversations where like, look, take the subject of Israel.
00:20:25.000There are people that have a perspective.
00:20:27.000I've got people in my own life, as I'm sure you have, that are like, you should basically cut off anyone who says anything negative about Israel.
00:20:35.000Then I've got people in my life that are like, you should basically cut off I'm not fucking Jewish.
00:20:44.000I'm not like, all I am is, right, we've got to look after my kids.
00:20:49.000And everyone's living in their own version of that.
00:20:52.000We are not, in my opinion, designed, and in other people's opinion, evolved, to accommodate this number of relationships.
00:20:59.000And I think anthropology and zoology tell us a great deal that when a chimpanzee troop hits 175, it splits.
00:21:07.000Probably handle, I would say, a confederacy of interconnected, syndicated cultures where the majority of governance is internal, except for maybe a Ten Commandments-style system of, yo, they've got one over there where they're raping kids.
00:21:33.000cool you know like it's gotta be because otherwise we're We've got our guy in, fuck you!" And the other is like, "I hate him!" and then they're waiting for their person to get in and win the culture war, rather than questioning the entire system itself.
00:21:53.000We used to, there used to be a kind of aesthetic glory in the idea that, Now there's mass homogeneity, superficial diversity.
00:22:10.000We've got a gay one, we've got a black one, we've got Jewish.
00:22:13.000You know, superficial diversity, but deep homogeneity underneath it.
00:22:36.000And culture and tradition are the ways of handling that.
00:22:40.000Now, our counter-argument is, I suppose the whole argument of yielding to a superpower like the United States of America for its citizenry and domestic population is, you guys, you idiots, chatting around the internet, you don't know what we're protecting you from.
00:24:19.000That's my only scientific discovery when it comes to anything.
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00:26:31.000about you if you want to watch zeitgeist you know the kind of thing probably still gets banned on youtube i think like what us lot should be discussing I think all of us are feeling like, you know, this team here, you, let us know.
00:26:45.000You're the people that we're making this for.
00:26:47.000Like, we're at the edge of giving a fuck.
00:27:17.000You know, like, you know, I'd like listening to Steve Bannon or Charlie Kirk or, you know, whoever, like people that know a bunch of stuff.
00:27:23.000But do you know what I was thought the other day when we watched...
00:27:28.000We watched a show called Minority Report, which is sort of pretty antithetical to our perspective, you might imagine.
00:27:33.000I was about to say that, but imagine if some Watutsi tribe came, or extraterrestrials.
00:27:38.000You know, all it is really is Sam Cedars, a guy, a white guy with a beard in middle age.
00:27:42.000I'm a white guy with a beard in middle age.
00:27:44.000We're not different from an eight-foot-tall Watusi warrior with a spear coming in going, No!
00:27:52.000Or like an extraterrestrial that's like, you know, a squid.
00:28:16.000I think that we've got to, like, you know, reset ourselves to a point where what we're talking about and what we're doing, we actually care about it.
00:28:24.000And, like, you know, because, like, what I care about at the moment is, like, I'm in Acts in the Bible and, like, I'm reading about people that are just like, we keep all of our property in commune.
00:28:35.000Like, you know, the people are living like hard lives, you know, and I'm like, I've got kids, I've got responsibilities, I've got financial burdens, but I don't want to live my life like some weird little elaborate dance, like, you know, where I'm not actually engaged with what I'm doing.
00:28:50.000Yeah, I think the difference between like, the talking heads on a major broadcast or Fox News or one of those things, you feel like they can't actually say...
00:29:03.000The only difference is because we're making reactions to videos and news, and that's what you're doing every single day.
00:29:09.000And it is a talking head of sorts, but you can't say, I don't care about this.
00:29:14.000That's the biggest difference of this new media.
00:29:16.000And somebody like Sam Seder, we could just laugh because what he was saying was, We could disagree with stuff, but then we're not so like, no, like, ah, like, this is what we believe, because you can laugh about it.
00:29:29.000I didn't feel hate when I was watching him and he was sort of laughing and he was doing an impression of being like, oh, I've got my nipples out like that.
00:30:41.000You know, like, you know, sort of like, you know, sort of, or, you know, this girl, like, Elia Alvarez-Diaz, looking at Nicolas Salazar, 1999.
00:30:51.000Like, you know, I was, like, still watching.
00:30:53.000I remember I was a smackhead when 9-11 happened.
00:30:56.000You know, that's when I did one of my, that was one of my sort of a pivotal moment in my personal myth, is on December the 12th, 2001, I went to work at MTV Camden, UK.
00:31:08.000To interview Kylie Minogue, the Australian pop star.
00:31:12.000And I was dressed as Osomar Bin Laden.
00:32:08.000I knew, like, MTV's a major corporation and they're bullshit.
00:32:11.000I was reading things like Adbusters then and, like, knowing that, the commercial, oh, GM Motors, Ignitions, 40 Ignition, No Recall, Big Pharma.
00:32:19.000You know, I was already, before I went into entertainment, I was drug-free.
00:32:22.000Like, and what I feel like is the culture can't hold itself together anymore.
00:33:08.000And I suppose like, you know, what we're saying in terms of art is there going to be no more, you're not going to have great artists anymore because the culture is homogenizing.
00:33:17.000The culture can't take Yeah, a genuine artist.
00:33:23.000They're replacing it with some synthetic version of entertainment to distract.
00:33:28.000But the artist, you can't control the artist.
00:33:31.000I mean, go back and watch Picasso, any of those stories about any of the great artists.
00:34:36.000And the way it can achieve control is homogeneity.
00:34:39.000And the way it can achieve homogeneity is telling you that through safety, by protecting you, and convenience, by making your life easy, it can protect you.
00:34:47.000Now what that does is it means you don't need the artist no more.
00:35:36.000And we've got no room for elegance or delicacy or disgusting.
00:35:40.000The refinement and challenge of being a person that knows you're going to die.
00:35:45.000And what's being bred out of us, I think?
00:35:48.000It's the sort of warrior's ability to sacrifice yourself for something higher.
00:35:53.000And that's why I think when I'm looking at Acts, it's like every single one of those apostles and early Christians will, and stroke does, die for what they believe in.
00:36:05.000I believe in this so much, there's nothing you can offer me.
00:36:07.000You can't say to me, but we'll give you, you know, and when we watch Braveheart, and there's the bit in Braveheart where they go, listen, we'll set you up with gold, you're going to have lands, just drop this shit.
00:37:54.000This is like, so in that minority report, they've sort of taken the piss out of, like, they're saying, oh, Russell Brown's Christian, and yet he's mocking Greta Thunberg's accent.
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00:41:03.000With irony, Isaac will press the button on 9-11, which is probably what happened in the first place.
00:41:10.000It is wrong, blasphemous, and sinful for you to suggest, imply, or help other people come to the conclusion that the US government killed 3,000 of its own citizens.
00:42:24.000It looks like one of those scenes of an old building being purposely dynamited and blown up.
00:42:29.000Anybody who's ever watched a building being demolished on purpose knows that if you're going to do this, you have to get at the under-infrastructure of a building.
00:42:56.000Oh, and like when Bill Hicks does that bit about like, Bill Hicks does this amazing bit of stand-up about JFK.
00:43:02.000In fact, we can maybe even throw it in, where he talks about, hey, like on the...
00:43:13.000I think named that after the assassination.
00:43:17.000And then he goes, you know, he goes, you can go in the building and look where Oswald took the shot, but they don't let you go right up to the window.
00:43:45.000Because if you saw where he was meant to have got off that shot, you'd go, oh my god!
00:43:51.000And when you watch this, it's the same feeling, isn't it?
00:43:54.000Well, whatever the truth was, it ain't what they were telling us at the time.
00:43:59.000So, with what they're telling you now, do you think maybe they're lying about that?
00:44:05.000Well, anybody who's ever watched a building being demolished on purpose knows that if you're going to do this, you have to get at the under-infrastructure of a building and bring it down.
00:44:14.000The way the structure is collapsing, this was the result of something that was planned.
00:44:19.000It's not accidental that the first tower just happened to collapse and then the second tower just happened to collapse in exactly the same way.
00:44:27.000How they accomplished this, we don't know.
00:45:37.000Yeah, I mean, I've seen, like, quick clips of this before, but as I'm sitting here watching all these back-to-back-to-back, I'm like, there's absolutely no way that was just a plane hitting it.
00:45:45.000Like, there's clearly got to be something else that happened there, because I've just never seen it, like, that get, like, in consecutive order like that.
00:46:19.000But, like, the World Trade Center, I mean, plain as day, two planes hit it.
00:46:22.000It's a pretty big thing to kind of cover up.
00:46:25.000Having said that, though, when I first watched this in 2007, at the end of it, I was like, it's the U.S. government.
00:46:30.000So, like, it can convince you of pretty much anything, but I think it's definitely planes hit it.
00:46:35.000So you think the planes just collapsed that building like that?
00:46:39.000No, I think that the plane at crazy velocity with all that fuel setting off fires in a building, which I don't think the building was designed for two planes to hit it.
00:46:48.000You know, the buildings fell due to earthquakes and then they changed how buildings were kind of built in order to...
00:48:26.000Indeed, why 9-11, I think, is significant is it's the beginning, at least as far as in the modern era, I suppose, of the idea that crisis is beneficial to elites and only detrimental.
00:48:39.000To the majority, to the population at large.
00:48:42.000In fact, it doesn't even qualify as a crisis.
00:48:45.000So like, if you're like, you know, if it doesn't affect you at all, if your stock prices go up, if you're able to legislate and regulate, if you get the war, how is it a crisis?
00:48:53.000I, like you though, Massey, have the idea of like, Surely there would be other ways of achieving the result of regime change in Iraq, controlling Kuwait oil fields, legislature for war, closing down on privacy without doing that.
00:49:11.000You know, what seems to be like, you know, getting out of the matrix is people, you can't just tell people, we're taking power, you're going to get locked in your house.
00:49:20.000What you have to create is a kind of bewilderment and chaos.
00:49:22.000That's what I'm learning at the moment, it seems, is that through bewilderment, Well, to me, it's kind of like with Pearl Harbor and things like that, where you need something big to mobilize the populace to really get behind what you're trying to do as a government.
00:49:47.000When you go to, like, kind of like the moon landing, right?
00:49:49.000Like, how many people the Russians didn't deny it, things like that.
00:49:52.000But then when you get into, like, MKUltra and stuff, you see that, like, they really didn't have this wide swath of people that, you know, were behind this and keeping it quiet.
00:50:01.000Really, it was just, like, a select group of five people, six people that were able to keep it down and tell everybody else, like, hey, this is what we're doing, but really we're doing this.
00:50:11.000You know, kind of like 9-11, you could have a top brass that knows what actually happened.
00:50:16.000Filter out a story down the media pipeline, and then everybody is just convinced.
00:50:21.000And you don't need so many people to keep it a secret.
00:50:24.000Most of these people probably don't even know, you know, because the truth is being hidden by the top left.
00:50:30.000Nodes in a sort of a network of power where only certain nodes are even activated or even understand it.
00:50:37.000Not to mention what we're learning now is that you have sort of a blackmail culture where lots of people in positions of significant power, it's not like they're morally able to elect.
00:50:51.000And interesting as well, after this, we have like WikiLeaks where we sort of learn, like, you know, think of what Julian Assange, like, experienced.
00:51:04.000It was like, you know, some friendly fire killed people in Iraq.
00:51:07.000The Democrats were sending emails around that was a bit shady with Hillary Clinton.
00:51:11.000And it's not like he was like, look, man, we've got images of this person doing this or that.
00:51:18.000That guy's like, you're going to jail without trial for 10 years and we'll kill you if we can.
00:51:23.000And it's only because of, you know, the cause got kind of popularized that Julian Assange just wasn't CIA'd right out of it.
00:51:29.000Thinking about the timing of this, this is the time to do it.
00:51:32.000It's like the technology wasn't as advanced even now with everybody's cell phones taking videos from thousands of years' perspective.
00:51:48.000It was like a tech company that was lying about the technology that they had, apparently, or sometimes is there a conspiracy even within Enron?
00:51:58.000Were they somehow not able How can we do this?
00:52:41.000And now I feel like what trouble can we get in now that the technology is actually there?
00:52:45.000I reckon that we're living in unanticipated challenges like this sort of technology that could be used
00:52:58.000as it plays out commercially and broadly and generally there are unanticipated consequences say something like one of the things i've noticed since we've been working in this independent media space something like nordstrom pipeline like you they were able to go yeah we fit the russians did that themselves they blew up their own pipeline but now it's so quick people are like Like, the response is so quick and so rapid.
00:53:20.000You've got journalists like Seymour Hoffman, who's like Pulitzer Prize-winning old-school going, there's no way they did that.
00:53:24.000You've got Jocko Willink saying, like, you know, well, we're Navy SEALs, we'd know how to do that all day long.
00:53:48.000And maybe even Massey's perspective, which is obviously sort of highly subjective, that it's like, you know, they say that the 90s was like the 60s redone.
00:54:43.000So, with cultural ephemera, you can observe it.
00:54:46.000With geopolitics, it's harder to observe it, because I don't think we know all the jigsaw pieces, we don't know all the narratives, particularly, you know, occult means, by definition, concealed information.
00:54:56.000Obscene means information that's coming in that shouldn't be there.
00:55:00.000It's curious that the master politician of our time, Donald Trump, is masterful at using information from the outside, that you're not used to having that information brought in.
00:55:10.000When you see him at the G7, you're like, whoa!
00:55:28.000But like how Stalin used to have trials for his adversaries that were ultimately going to be executed, we all knew what was going to happen to Saddam Hussein.
00:55:36.000Like, there's no way that Saddam Hussein was going to be like, well, actually, he's innocent.
00:55:46.000It was a matter of time before we get the real one.
00:55:48.000So, like, isn't it interesting that I think that what's happening right now in our culture is amazing because Donald Trump is both a throwback and...
00:55:59.000and an outlier simultaneously because he does stuff like telling you the truth in weird ways that don't seem right.
00:56:06.000But if Tucker Carlson is correct that this conflict now takes down the Trump presidency, Fuck knows.
00:56:16.000Because, like, that's the end of that idea.
00:56:19.000The idea of, like, we're going to have someone that's like a plain-speaking entrepreneurial tycoon dude who's coming out and just going, well, we're just going to kill him.
00:58:14.000The building is a building of the building.
00:58:43.000I suppose maybe I could read that text because that, like, look, who can refute or dispute any of this?
00:58:50.00019 hijackers directed by Osama bin Laden took over four commercial jets with box cutters and while evading the air defense system hit 75% of their targets.
00:58:59.000In turn the World Trade Towers 1, 2 and 7 collapsed due to structural failure through fire in a pancake in very common fashion while the plane that hit the Pentagon vaporized upon impact.
00:59:08.000You know you sort of forget stuff all the time.
00:59:10.000You forget like you know you can't hold it in your head.
01:00:09.000And I think that Tucker had a guy on not too long ago that said it was like a clip of him getting up there, a firefighter, putting out the fires, essentially going like, yeah, we're good.
01:00:32.000And this is where like our new orthodoxy of science becomes, for me, interesting, is no one's conducting clinical trials, experiments, or even simulations that disprove the validity and authority of the system.
01:00:44.000So like, given that there's this level of question, you go, all right, well, let's just take that amount of jet fuel and let's create a simulation and show what I'm...
01:01:00.000Because they'd be like, Russell's now on this new government group, and you get in there, and you're excited to look at the data, and then they interview you, and you're like, we looked at it.
01:01:32.000Then they look at the emergence of independent media.
01:01:34.000Now, one aspect of it is the Cambridge Analytica model, where people, through advanced modes of campaigning, can engineer new voter bases and, with bespoke information, control.
01:01:46.000Like, you know, this is a target seat.
01:01:49.000target through Facebook ads these people.
01:01:51.000But what people aren't That people could get activated around any niche issue you want.
01:02:10.000that one little incident could fire up social and cultural revolutions.
01:02:15.000So I think in an attempt to sort of mute, neuter politics, They engineer astroturf social movements.
01:02:25.000Even something like Black Lives Matter might be like that.
01:02:27.000You know, through that, it creates complexity.
01:02:29.000Like, if you ever get an issue, like in my country, I've always thought this.
01:02:33.000Like, you know, I used to think, when I used to see early, this is why I've got, this is why I was never dismissive about Tommy Robinson, even when I was part of a social group that were like, that guy's a fucking racist, right?
01:03:05.000And I used to think then, if you could get the Muslim people that, ironically, Tommy Robinson hates, I don't mean it like that, I'm being reductive, and the Tommy Robinson to go, we are aligned on this goal.
01:03:18.000In this country, think of the people that are going to be most agitated by defund the police.
01:03:24.000People from the military, people from service, people who've lost family members as a result.
01:03:29.000You've just lost the motherfuckers that are most likely to be of any use to you.
01:03:32.000I heard that when BLM was coming down here to this region, they were going to do a protest around Pensacola.
01:03:39.000There was just a circulated thing of, yeah, there's a lot of veterans around here, and we're just going to be ready, because the police might take 5-10 minutes to respond.
01:03:57.000Now, like, you know, so, like, and if you had, if you ever found a position where the people that are active, see, even what's amazing about MAGA is all that, that class of people in general.
01:04:15.000Like if you ever found a position where those people were like, you know, down with the blue hairs on something, if they were like, yeah, we like agree that what needs to change is this.
01:04:31.000When the intelligentsia, those that have read the books and understand all this shit, get involved with, like, the peasant class or the early industrial classes, that's when you have big, big problems.
01:04:41.000But the problem is the intelligentsia are right fucking bastards and exploit the proletariat as soon as they're in a position of power.
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01:05:26.000Personally, we should start letting people come to live shows.
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