Stay Free - Russel Brand - 9-11 – Still Just a Conspiracy Theory in 2025? - SF600

00:00:07.000 Ladies and gentlemen.

00:00:08.000 Russell Brand.

00:00:09.000 Archie.

00:00:09.000 Russell.

00:00:10.000 Russell Brand.

00:00:10.000 Controversial conspiracy theorist.

00:00:12.000 Trying to bring real journalism to the American people.

00:00:16.000 It's a special day, you awakening wonders.

00:00:19.000 Glory unto him. 0.98

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00:00:37.000 Before we get into today's subject, in part because I can't remember what it is, let me introduce you to the people that make this show.

00:00:44.000 Over there, we've got...

00:00:47.000 All right, Jake.

00:00:48.000 The hat guy.

00:00:48.000 I'm the hat guy now.

00:00:49.000 Well, that's how you were described on Minority Report, because you were chuckling at my nipples or my delicious abdomen or not correctly chastising me for my unchristian impression of...

00:01:00.000 Beautiful, Dave.

00:01:04.000 We're doing things real well, aren't we?

00:01:06.000 With me in the present, straight out of the Old Testament.

00:01:10.000 It's APAC's own Isaac.

00:01:12.000 How's it going, mate?

00:01:13.000 Going well.

00:01:14.000 The Cats just won the Stanley Cup, so I'm feeling real good tonight.

00:01:17.000 And the Cats are a Jew football team, I assume.

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00:01:23.000 We've got Massey with me.

00:01:26.000 You're a lucid dreamer.

00:01:27.000 How do you know this isn't a dream, Massey?

00:01:31.000 Because I'm still in it, even though I'm looking around.

00:01:34.000 It could still be a dream.

00:01:36.000 It could just be a deeper program.

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00:01:49.000 How's it going, Luke?

00:01:50.000 I'm living the dream, baby.

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00:02:05.000 Did any of you see any of the Terrence Howard interview?

00:02:09.000 Yeah, did you see?

00:02:10.000 I mean, you were in there with me, weren't you, mate?

00:02:11.000 I watched the whole thing.

00:02:12.000 I was there live.

00:02:13.000 Every so often, Isaac would appear from behind the camera or the kit and stuff and go, No, that's true.

00:02:18.000 We are made out of magnesium.

00:02:21.000 That's true.

00:02:22.000 Octopi are made out of copper. 0.99

00:02:24.000 And I was like, because I was saying to Terrence Howard, mate, I'm going to start using this shit in conversation. 0.99

00:02:28.000 So you better be right. 0.99

00:02:30.000 I'm not arguing with you.

00:02:31.000 I'm just saying I'm trusting you.

00:02:33.000 I'm not saying I don't trust you.

00:02:34.000 I'm saying I do.

00:02:35.000 So you should be right.

00:02:36.000 You've seen it yet, Massey.

00:02:38.000 Yeah, he edited it.

00:02:39.000 What movies has he been in?

00:02:41.000 Because I've got a few clips, but I recognize him, but just from podcasting.

00:02:44.000 So what are, like, his most famous movies?

00:02:46.000 I don't know podcast Terrence Howard.

00:02:46.000 Iron Man.

00:02:47.000 Iron Man.

00:02:48.000 He was Iron Man before Don Cheadle.

00:02:50.000 He was in the- He was in Iron Man?

00:02:52.000 He's Black Iron Man.

00:02:53.000 What's he called?

00:02:54.000 War Machine before Don Cheadle.

00:02:57.000 So was that in Iron Man 1?

00:02:58.000 Yeah.

00:03:00.000 He's Tiana's dad, Princess and the Frog.

00:03:02.000 Dude, really?

00:03:05.000 What is that?

00:03:06.000 You referred that?

00:03:07.000 I didn't recognize anything.

00:03:08.000 He's Tiana's dad in President of Frog.

00:03:10.000 Princess and the Frog.

00:03:11.000 Princess and the Frog.

00:03:12.000 He's a voiceover.

00:03:13.000 That's a cartoon.

00:03:13.000 Oh, right.

00:03:14.000 Yeah, no, that's a good ride at Disney.

00:03:15.000 I like that ride.

00:03:16.000 Hustle and Flow.

00:03:18.000 Okay, so who chose today's content?

00:03:21.000 Was it Massey?

00:03:21.000 Yeah, I picked this one.

00:03:23.000 We wanted something on 9-11 because it's the...

00:03:26.000 There was a documentary that came out in 2007 called Zeitgeist, and it had three parts to it.

00:03:31.000 The first part was on religion, which is my next pick when it's my turn again, because I want to see you guys answer to some of that stuff, some of that atheist stuff.

00:03:39.000 Actually quite responsible for my atheism, to be fair, but really good.

00:03:43.000 Part two is on 9-11, and part three is on the global financial system.

00:03:47.000 So this is back from 2007.

00:03:49.000 Peter Joseph, I think the guy's name is, he had like a big spat on Rogan about eight years later, and he didn't get it.

00:03:59.000 I watched it, I think.

00:04:04.000 I watched this one.

00:04:05.000 I watched those Zeitgeist movies.

00:04:07.000 I'd call this relatively early conspiracy theory content.

00:04:10.000 I mean, like, of course, there's the OGs that were doing it in print.

00:04:13.000 There are Terrence McKenna's, you're David Ikes, you're Alex Jones.

00:04:17.000 Alex Jones, he's stood the right.

00:04:19.000 Alex Jones is the Dr. Dre of conspiracies.

00:04:22.000 You can criticise him if you want, but he ain't got any of the rest of us without Jones.

00:04:27.000 David Ike, I don't know if he's Eazy-E or someone from Run-D-M-C or what he is, but I know he's I've been telling you this for ages!

00:04:40.000 I've been telling you this!

00:04:41.000 I've told you not to trust them!

00:04:43.000 Like, it's his whole vibe.

00:04:44.000 Now, this Zeitgeist movie, I feel like this was the one that I watched that said stuff like they found, they claimed to find terrorists I was like, no, they didn't.

00:04:56.000 Or the first time I heard about Building 7, excuse me, I reckon that 9-11...

00:05:07.000 The tower, and even maybe the twin towers, you go even that far.

00:05:10.000 That has sort of like, that's mythically represented a bunch.

00:05:13.000 A brilliant academic and philosopher that I was friends with for a while.

00:05:17.000 Maybe I'll be friends with him again.

00:05:18.000 You know, a lot of people don't make the cut. 0.97

00:05:19.000 Like, you know, sort of when you, if you become a hotly controversial figure, some people are like, whoa, I'm still making my money out of this shit.

00:05:26.000 I'm out.

00:05:27.000 You know, so thanks to all of you guys and thanks to you watching as well.

00:05:30.000 But he was good.

00:05:31.000 He might come back.

00:05:32.000 Professor Brad Evans, he said that these two events, the fall of the Berlin Wall and 9-11, And epochal, in the philosophy, I think means, like, era shifting.

00:05:44.000 Like, it's like, Foucault used it a lot.

00:05:47.000 The French philosopher and post-structuralist, Michel Foucault.

00:05:50.000 But he said that once the Berlin Wall came down, the world was one space now.

00:05:56.000 Like it wasn't like there's two, Because I remember I was just a kid.

00:06:06.000 You was even younger than me. 0.98

00:06:07.000 When that Berlin Wall, I was like, why does this fucking matter? 0.97

00:06:09.000 Why is this important? 0.98

00:06:10.000 I'm really mad because it means the West wins.

00:06:12.000 That's what that meant.

00:06:13.000 Now, 9-11, what it meant is, you know, like, look, you can just look at the historic facts of the matter.

00:06:19.000 First attack on American soil since Pearl Harbor.

00:06:22.000 Like Pearl Harbor, many people believe there's a strategic component.

00:06:26.000 Like most of these crises of...

00:06:33.000 If that hadn't happened, Google would have been different.

00:06:36.000 People were starting already to talk about privacy and surveillance.

00:06:40.000 After 9-11, the argument was like, you do what you've got to do.

00:06:42.000 If you need to catch the baddies, you do what you've got to do.

00:06:47.000 Like the Iraq war, which was enough, shouldn't have been anything to do with it, was legitimized by it. 0.85

00:06:52.000 The new American century proposal that the neocons had of wanting to shut down like Libya, take over resources.

00:06:59.000 That includes to this day Venezuela.

00:07:00.000 I mean, if you look at this current escalations between Israel, Iran, America's obvious involvement.

00:07:09.000 Iran have a relationship with Venezuela. 0.99

00:07:11.000 They have, like, they say Venezuela could start being, like, the sort of Cuba of the 2020s, like, because, you know, part of Iran's deal is, like, you know, when we find war, I think one of the things about modern warfare, and obviously I say this is hardly an expert, is, like, we know we're not going to do, like, it's not going to be America, like, well, we've got nuclear bombs, so fuck you, Iran, it's over, right? 0.99

00:07:33.000 They're not going to do that. 0.97

00:07:34.000 So it's already not everything.

00:07:36.000 I think when you're dealing with someone like Eddie Gallagher, our friend here who does a podcast called Shoot Me Straight with our brilliant friend and host here, the beloved Dave Field.

00:07:45.000 Eddie Gallagher got in trouble because a member of ISIS was killed on his watch leading to the ridiculous headline, Navy SEAL kills member of ISIS.

00:07:53.000 Essentially, a Navy SEAL unit was sent to a company, an Iraqi battalion that was set up in that sort of post-Saddam fall Iraqi army, which basically means a puppet government anyway.

00:08:03.000 And the Navy SEALs were like, Following them, helping them out a bit, and they couldn't get too involved because of, I guess, Geneva Convention or whatever militaristic rules might govern warfare.

00:08:13.000 So a warrior like Eddie Gallagher is having to sit on his hands in a military situation.

00:08:18.000 Well, that in microcosm is all of this, because America's not going to go, we're sending out 10,000 jets, we're going to land troops, we're taking over Iran.

00:08:27.000 It's going to be modified war over time.

00:08:30.000 Who does that suit? 0.98

00:08:31.000 Who likes prolonged war?

00:08:33.000 What did Julian Assange tell us?

00:08:34.000 The goal is not to win Afghanistan.

00:08:36.000 The goal is to prolong Afghanistan. 0.93

00:08:39.000 Then you can generate revenue, you can keep it running, and all of that sort of flat-out conspiracy.

00:08:44.000 From 9-11 onwards, the world has changed.

00:08:47.000 Media changed.

00:08:48.000 The way we relate to one another.

00:08:50.000 The way we are willing to compromise our freedom for security changed.

00:08:55.000 Since then, we've lived kind of, I believe, in a forever crisis.

00:08:58.000 2008, a massive financial apocalypse that was used to augment different levels of control and used to break up burden.

00:09:07.000 COVID legitimized control to a degree never seen before.

00:09:11.000 So I feel that in a sense, 9-11 is one of the big daddies because if it's anything other than, Like, have you seen that?

00:09:21.000 Like, he says, I was nothing to do with it.

00:09:23.000 Like, hear me out.

00:09:24.000 Like, you know, like it's so complicated and weird, the involvement of the South.

00:09:28.000 Even like level one conspiracy, the involvement of the Saudi Arabians, Building 7, whether There's so many things to unfold and unpack just from this. 0.69

00:09:45.000 It tells us a lot about the modern world and the way that the modern world is changing, right up to and including this day.

00:09:50.000 Because however this war unfolds with Iran, Iran aren't going to...

00:09:53.000 Iran are going to have to resort to... 0.98

00:09:55.000 You know, they're a nation that has relationships with Hezbollah, Hamas, and how they're going to play that shit out for Venezuela and the South. 0.99

00:10:03.000 These are just a bunch of questions. 0.98

00:10:04.000 What we do know is America won't go at maximum capacity because America can't go at maximum capacity.

00:10:09.000 And Iran, if they're going to fight it according to what they've got, they're going to have to fight some sort of guerrilla war.

00:10:14.000 So 9-11, in a way, is still happening.

00:10:17.000 Of course it's still happening.

00:10:19.000 World War I is still happening.

00:10:21.000 It was a resource war, the rise of sort of colonial nations and the reconfiguring of colonial nations to accommodate a new superpower.

00:10:28.000 Anyway, so that's the context that I'm watching this in.

00:10:31.000 Have any of you guys got...

00:10:35.000 Whenever I think about it, because I obviously grew up in the 90s, in the late 80s and early 90s, well, the 90s, and for me, and for a lot of people I speak to, 9-11 was the official end of the 90s.

00:10:47.000 I know it was 2001, but up until then, it was great, and then after that, that really just felt like the inflection point, certainly in my lifetime.

00:10:55.000 I know a lot of people argue, my mum would argue the 70s was the height, I'm not sure what you'd say Russell, but...

00:11:07.000 And it's funny that you say just how much everything has changed in terms of privacy.

00:11:12.000 I remember pre-9-11 doing IT and communication technology and stuff like that in school and being on the internet pretty early.

00:11:19.000 All of the advice was always, when you're online, don't share any personal information at all.

00:11:24.000 Now, look at how much that has changed.

00:11:26.000 I know that's mostly with the advent of social media, but now it's, but everything on the internet, like, you know, people live their entire lives online.

00:11:34.000 But when it first started, the internet first started mid-90s, it was be careful what you share online.

00:11:38.000 And I think that 9-11 is partly responsible for that.

00:11:41.000 Of course, social media is the other part of it, but...

00:11:44.000 Mate, the Palantir thing.

00:11:45.000 Like, how can you...

00:11:54.000 It's an anonymous space.

00:11:55.000 Like, I was subject myself to an online scam.

00:11:58.000 And the reason that happened was because I normalised the idea that it's a, not sanctified, but sanitised space.

00:12:06.000 Because that's what those corporations were able to do.

00:12:08.000 At the beginning, it was like, whoa, the record industry's ruined.

00:12:12.000 Napster, it's over.

00:12:13.000 This is Gangnam style. 0.74

00:12:15.000 Things were just going off online.

00:12:17.000 Then they worked out, like any territory, think of your great country, the United States of America. 1.00

00:12:21.000 At first, it's like, whoa, we can just rip this shit up. 0.98

00:12:25.000 There's furriers and trappers and loggers and gold miners and cowboys and people are just claiming territory. 0.99

00:12:31.000 After I was like, yeah, we'll take it from here, guys.

00:12:34.000 They sort of lay a veil over it of governmental control.

00:12:38.000 And I think the same thing happened in cyber territory.

00:12:40.000 It was like, whoa, we can just do what we want.

00:12:42.000 And of course, all that stuff sort of continues.

00:12:45.000 But there's been a new Titan class.

00:12:48.000 All of the identifiable tiles that cover that space, whether it's Apple, Facebook, Amazon, and things that are less, you know, Palantir, the reason I'm interested in that is because that's sort of secondary.

00:12:58.000 I didn't really know about that.

00:12:59.000 And when I found out with that content, and you should watch it, you should watch.

00:13:03.000 In fact, have a look at this trailer for our Russell Brand Unpacked of this about Palantir.

00:13:12.000 Our primary mission is, in fact, to set a global standard for the world for behaviour.

00:13:17.000 OK, just setting a global standard for behaviour.

00:13:20.000 Nothing to worry about there, unless you believe in a little thing like freedom.

00:13:25.000 Nudges and behaviouralism and BF Skinner and being able to encourage rats down a maze with little pellets of delight might seem like an abstract clinical exercise, but you and I are the rats and our neurology is being manipulated moment by moment.

00:13:42.000 The reason I'm interested in that is because Palantir, I'd never even heard of, like, Palantir, really.

00:13:47.000 And like, you know, these are giant, powerful organisations that are either going to have favourable relationships with government and that will mean we're exploited by them or unfavourable relationships with government. 0.91

00:13:59.000 And that means that the government will try and fuck them up.

00:14:02.000 That's what like, you know, like when we were talking about the stuff that's happening in my beloved nation, Britain, um... 0.95

00:14:13.000 Like, when you see Krishna Guru Murphy, the Channel 4 representative, talking to Jess Phillips, the sort of, I guess she's home secretary in my country, you know, secretary of state.

00:14:22.000 Like, what was amazing is nowhere in the interview do they say, you wouldn't be having this inquiry if Elon Musk had...

00:14:33.000 Tommy Robinson, you would have in jail.

00:14:36.000 And X, if you could, you would ban it.

00:14:38.000 So we're living in...

00:14:40.000 The country of the UK is trying to work out these new dynamics right now.

00:14:45.000 And this rape gang inquiry, I guess what they'll do is they'll make it take a...

00:14:50.000 And by the time the results are in, everyone that's implicated is out of power.

00:14:54.000 That's a standard system the government has for dealing with that challenge.

00:14:56.000 Your country's having a different deal because you've gotten a populist leader.

00:15:01.000 In power.

00:15:03.000 And now with questions like, what's going on with Iran, Israel?

00:15:06.000 What's happening?

00:15:07.000 Are you backing out of the migrant thing?

00:15:09.000 I'm not talking about whether you agree with their policies.

00:15:12.000 That's secondary and, in fact, by my reckoning, irrelevant.

00:15:15.000 What we're experiencing is even a figure like Trump in power seems to have to negotiate with or assess and deal with factors that he's wrong.

00:15:31.000 He was not saying, look, when I'm in office, I'm still going to have problems, aren't I?

00:15:35.000 We might have to go with Iran, whether I want to or not. 1.00

00:15:37.000 Or we might have to have some undocumented labour for agriculture and hospitality to function. 0.99

00:15:42.000 That's not what he was saying.

00:15:44.000 So does that mean Trump's just like a regular politician who says what he needs to say prior to election and governs how he needs to govern?

00:15:51.000 Or does it mean that when you get in these institutions, even if you're a popular and charismatic leader with a massive mandate, there are institutions that get under your skin?

00:16:00.000 Now, something like this weird fact about Palantir, that Palantir...

00:16:11.000 Like, most people in America, I reckon, don't think, of course, yeah, when I think of CIA, I think of the various movie stars that have played CIA agents in my lifetime.

00:16:19.000 I don't think, oh, they've got these carve-outs where they have a venture capital arm that sets up private equity and surveillance companies and big tech firms and funds things through USAID.

00:16:29.000 Like, we need to have a massive assessment of what a nation is, man.

00:16:35.000 It's every movie you've ever watched.

00:16:37.000 I mean, it's got to come from somewhere.

00:16:39.000 It's actually been happening.

00:16:40.000 They just make it into entertainment, and then we all go, oh, this is crazy that this could actually happen, and it's actually happening.

00:16:46.000 So I think that's the part that we become desensitized to it, and then we don't question it anymore.

00:16:52.000 We're like, this is just in the movies.

00:16:54.000 This is only in the movies.

00:16:55.000 No, it's happening in real life.

00:16:56.000 I think about before 9-11, the Y2K thing, going all the way up to that, that was sort of the beginning of this technology. 0.93

00:17:03.000 Too much for us.

00:17:04.000 We can't handle it.

00:17:05.000 It's going to go to 2000.

00:17:07.000 The whole world's going to end.

00:17:08.000 That whole fear-based thing.

00:17:10.000 And then we go, you know, the very first year, 2001, we go into 9-11.

00:17:15.000 That's amazing.

00:17:16.000 I forgot about the old Y2K.

00:17:18.000 Millennium bug, it was called for a while.

00:17:20.000 It's like we couldn't handle the zeros coming up.

00:17:24.000 It's too much!

00:17:25.000 You know, weird when you think of binary code being zero and ones.

00:17:28.000 But that was, yeah, that was like early AI hysteria.

00:17:31.000 That was the premenstrual cramps of the menstrual cycle of AI.

00:17:35.000 Now it's being delivered.

00:17:37.000 That was us going, well, hold on a minute, this is too much technology.

00:17:39.000 We're automating too much stuff.

00:17:41.000 Now, AI is coming down the pipe, and what I've...

00:17:45.000 Someone posted a picture of New York City in, say, something like 1890.

00:17:51.000 And then, like, the same street in, like, 1912.

00:17:54.000 And they went, look, that's 20 years later, that photograph.

00:17:57.000 What happened to the horse and carriage between photograph A and photograph B could be about to happen to human beings.

00:18:04.000 Like, you know, the horse and carriage was the optimal means of solving the problem of transport.

00:18:10.000 The human being...

00:18:17.000 There's no question about it.

00:18:18.000 But most of us are the military equivalent of infantry.

00:18:25.000 We ain't special ops.

00:18:27.000 You know, we're not like, you know, that dude, you need that dude to get in there and blow up that pipe.

00:18:31.000 You know, I think that that's the problem of mass models of government and mass models of control is all of us need a connection to purpose and to God.

00:18:41.000 And if you don't feel that you're like, you know, if you leave your job at McDonald's, we're getting someone else to do your job at McDonald's.

00:18:47.000 If you sort of feel like, oh, I'm just part of the...

00:18:52.000 I'm just another commodity.

00:18:53.000 I'm just a grunt in this system.

00:18:58.000 We bear the molecular signature of divinity within us.

00:19:01.000 So I think that the real battle that's happening now is that technology affords us a model that would make our current systems of power obsolete.

00:19:12.000 Obsolete.

00:19:13.000 If we wanted to, we could opt out.

00:19:16.000 Technologically, it's possible in a way that it never was before.

00:19:20.000 Like, we'll run our own community of 100 people.

00:19:22.000 We'll use our own currency.

00:19:24.000 We'll grow our own food using advanced permacultural methods.

00:19:29.000 We'll trade only when necessary.

00:19:33.000 I'm not paying tax to the government no more.

00:19:35.000 I'm not subject to your laws. 1.00

00:19:37.000 That's like, we could start doing that shit. 0.99

00:19:39.000 Yo, Masi, what are you saying? 0.99

00:19:40.000 I was thinking about, you know, before with all this stuff with Iran at the moment, I've seen a bunch of fake videos of what looks like mushroom clouds rising over Iran and over Israel.

00:19:49.000 And it made me realize, oh, we won't be able to trust video.

00:19:52.000 Very soon.

00:19:53.000 This is the first AI war.

00:19:54.000 So when it gets to the point where we cannot trust video at all, do we really trust the internet and this level of communication, which is causing so much of a problem?

00:20:03.000 And if that happens, do we then go back to only trusting the people around us, therefore, tribal kind of lifestyle?

00:20:09.000 Like, to your point, if we can't trust any of the communication online, maybe we will highly value interpersonal communication between a few people, like a tribe, basically.

00:20:19.000 I mean, we already sort of can't.

00:20:21.000 That's why you're getting conversations where like, look, take the subject of Israel.

00:20:25.000 There are people that have a perspective.

00:20:27.000 I've got people in my own life, as I'm sure you have, that are like, you should basically cut off anyone who says anything negative about Israel. 0.99

00:20:35.000 Then I've got people in my life that are like, you should basically cut off I'm not fucking Jewish. 0.94

00:20:44.000 I'm not like, all I am is, right, we've got to look after my kids. 0.98

00:20:47.000 I've got to make enough money.

00:20:49.000 And everyone's living in their own version of that.

00:20:52.000 We are not, in my opinion, designed, and in other people's opinion, evolved, to accommodate this number of relationships.

00:20:59.000 And I think anthropology and zoology tell us a great deal that when a chimpanzee troop hits 175, it splits. 0.85

00:21:07.000 Probably handle, I would say, a confederacy of interconnected, syndicated cultures where the majority of governance is internal, except for maybe a Ten Commandments-style system of, yo, they've got one over there where they're raping kids. 1.00

00:21:24.000 That shit's got to be shut down. 0.99

00:21:25.000 Or they've got one over there where they're... 1.00

00:21:30.000 Cool.

00:21:30.000 We're all Muslim.

00:21:31.000 Cool.

00:21:32.000 We're all dressing up. 1.00

00:21:33.000 cool you know like it's gotta be because otherwise we're We've got our guy in, fuck you!" And the other is like, "I hate him!" and then they're waiting for their person to get in and win the culture war, rather than questioning the entire system itself. 1.00

00:21:53.000 We used to, there used to be a kind of aesthetic glory in the idea that, Now there's mass homogeneity, superficial diversity.

00:22:10.000 We've got a gay one, we've got a black one, we've got Jewish.

00:22:13.000 You know, superficial diversity, but deep homogeneity underneath it.

00:22:17.000 Everyone believes the same stuff.

00:22:18.000 No one's like, we've got this mad cooking technique.

00:22:21.000 No one's like, I grew these mangoes in my garden like Isaac did.

00:22:24.000 What you want is a personal connection to people's culture.

00:22:29.000 Homogeneity benefits none of us.

00:22:30.000 I suppose it's got to be like, somehow we have to hold the tension of one world.

00:22:35.000 And the rights of the individual.

00:22:36.000 And culture and tradition are the ways of handling that. 0.99

00:22:40.000 Now, our counter-argument is, I suppose the whole argument of yielding to a superpower like the United States of America for its citizenry and domestic population is, you guys, you idiots, chatting around the internet, you don't know what we're protecting you from. 1.00

00:22:55.000 China want to do this. 1.00

00:22:57.000 Russia want to do that.

00:22:58.000 these terrorist sales in Venezuela want to do that.

00:23:01.000 And like, if you knew just the 1% of what we're dealing with, You've created all of these problems, as a matter of fact. 0.72

00:23:17.000 You know, we've got, we've all got the problem of death.

00:23:19.000 Isn't it like mad sometimes to press the mental spiritual reset button off?

00:23:24.000 In a hundred years from now, barring massive breakthroughs, everyone alive now is going to be dead.

00:23:30.000 So you're not going to have any of them.

00:23:31.000 None of the athletes, none of the musicians, none of the politicians.

00:23:35.000 Reset.

00:23:35.000 Every century.

00:23:36.000 Reset.

00:23:37.000 People are trying to vie against that now, aren't they?

00:23:40.000 I've just come from a place.

00:23:41.000 Can I take this supplement? 1.00

00:23:43.000 Watching a woman on a whiteboard go, your testicles aren't going to be reproducing this. 1.00

00:23:47.000 I'm like, wow, we're just me and you in this room discussing my testicles. 0.99

00:23:51.000 Have you seen the news? 0.99

00:23:56.000 And I'm just like, wow, it's so strange.

00:23:58.000 Why am I involved in here?

00:23:59.000 She goes, did you notice this supplement do this or that supplement do that?

00:24:02.000 Basically, I said, I live a spiritual life.

00:24:05.000 What I mean by that is my perspective is spiritual and psychological.

00:24:09.000 I don't ever go, oh, ever since I've been taking this thing, I feel so much better.

00:24:13.000 I've never noticed anything like that.

00:24:15.000 All I know is put me under enough pressure and I will develop abs.

00:24:18.000 That's it.

00:24:19.000 That's my only scientific discovery when it comes to anything.

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00:26:31.000 about you if you want to watch zeitgeist you know the kind of thing probably still gets banned on youtube i think like what us lot should be discussing I think all of us are feeling like, you know, this team here, you, let us know.

00:26:45.000 You're the people that we're making this for. 0.99

00:26:47.000 Like, we're at the edge of giving a fuck. 0.99

00:26:49.000 You know what I mean? 0.99

00:26:50.000 Like, how much longer can you sort of, like, do a version of, oh, yeah, I love Trump, I hate Trump, or, you know, maybe AOC, or...

00:26:59.000 Like, I think that Trump's the creature that the times demanded.

00:27:03.000 That's how I would define him.

00:27:05.000 And I can see things about him that are fantastic, and I understand why some people are, you know, outraged or whatever.

00:27:12.000 I don't feel like we've got much to offer.

00:27:15.000 I don't think anyone has, actually.

00:27:17.000 You know, like, you know, I'd like listening to Steve Bannon or Charlie Kirk or, you know, whoever, like people that know a bunch of stuff.

00:27:23.000 But do you know what I was thought the other day when we watched...

00:27:28.000 We watched a show called Minority Report, which is sort of pretty antithetical to our perspective, you might imagine.

00:27:33.000 I was about to say that, but imagine if some Watutsi tribe came, or extraterrestrials.

00:27:38.000 You know, all it is really is Sam Cedars, a guy, a white guy with a beard in middle age.

00:27:42.000 I'm a white guy with a beard in middle age.

00:27:44.000 We're not different from an eight-foot-tall Watusi warrior with a spear coming in going, No!

00:27:52.000 Or like an extraterrestrial that's like, you know, a squid. 0.99

00:27:55.000 They wouldn't give a shit. 0.98

00:27:56.000 Like, you know, what's the differences? 0.99

00:27:58.000 The vanity of small differences.

00:27:59.000 It's like me getting angry about Tottenham Hotspur fans.

00:28:02.000 offensive, you are a Tottenham Hotspur fan.

00:28:03.000 You know, we both...

00:28:06.000 You support a London team.

00:28:08.000 I care about Jimmy Greaves.

00:28:09.000 You care about Jimmy Greaves.

00:28:11.000 Slightly different eras than that.

00:28:12.000 Even for a contemporary football fan, that's an antiquated reference.

00:28:15.000 Anyway, my point is this.

00:28:16.000 I think that we've got to, like, you know, reset ourselves to a point where what we're talking about and what we're doing, we actually care about it.

00:28:24.000 And, like, you know, because, like, what I care about at the moment is, like, I'm in Acts in the Bible and, like, I'm reading about people that are just like, we keep all of our property in commune.

00:28:33.000 You lie, you die.

00:28:35.000 Like, you know, the people are living like hard lives, you know, and I'm like, I've got kids, I've got responsibilities, I've got financial burdens, but I don't want to live my life like some weird little elaborate dance, like, you know, where I'm not actually engaged with what I'm doing.

00:28:50.000 Yeah, I think the difference between like, the talking heads on a major broadcast or Fox News or one of those things, you feel like they can't actually say...

00:29:01.000 Like, what are we talking about?

00:29:02.000 You know what I mean?

00:29:03.000 The only difference is because we're making reactions to videos and news, and that's what you're doing every single day.

00:29:09.000 And it is a talking head of sorts, but you can't say, I don't care about this.

00:29:14.000 That's the biggest difference of this new media.

00:29:16.000 And somebody like Sam Seder, we could just laugh because what he was saying was, We could disagree with stuff, but then we're not so like, no, like, ah, like, this is what we believe, because you can laugh about it.

00:29:29.000 I didn't feel hate when I was watching him and he was sort of laughing and he was doing an impression of being like, oh, I've got my nipples out like that.

00:29:34.000 I've seen that already.

00:29:35.000 It's not made me adjust my entire or anything.

00:29:39.000 Like, it doesn't have, like, and I'm not saying that because aren't I hard you can attack me.

00:29:42.000 I'm actually quite sensitive and I do really care about what people think about me.

00:29:45.000 I just, I was like, there wasn't hate in it.

00:29:47.000 It didn't feel like when I was watching him doing it, I was like, that's not hate.

00:29:50.000 Yeah.

00:29:51.000 That's not, hey, I can handle that.

00:29:52.000 You've said multiple times, like, it's not like you're saying you're right all the time.

00:29:57.000 None of us should be able to say that.

00:29:58.000 No one should be able to say that.

00:30:00.000 Man, listen, no one thinks I'm more wrong than me, I don't think.

00:30:04.000 Yeah.

00:30:04.000 Like, I'm wrong.

00:30:05.000 Like, I'm like, man, I was a drug addict for years.

00:30:08.000 I'm crazy.

00:30:08.000 The thing that's on my shoulder, haunting me, is I've been charged with rape, which is a really heavy thing.

00:30:17.000 What's mad about that is I'm honest, so I know that I didn't do that.

00:30:21.000 I know what I did and what I didn't do.

00:30:24.000 Even from a spiritual perspective, anyone who's 12-step, you guys will know this.

00:30:28.000 You'll know that there's a thing called step four and step five.

00:30:32.000 Step four is you write down every single resentment.

00:30:39.000 81!

00:30:39.000 Push me over!

00:30:41.000 You know, like, you know, sort of like, you know, sort of, or, you know, this girl, like, Elia Alvarez-Diaz, looking at Nicolas Salazar, 1999.

00:30:51.000 Like, you know, I was, like, still watching.

00:30:53.000 I remember I was a smackhead when 9-11 happened.

00:30:56.000 You know, that's when I did one of my, that was one of my sort of a pivotal moment in my personal myth, is on December the 12th, 2001, I went to work at MTV Camden, UK.

00:31:08.000 To interview Kylie Minogue, the Australian pop star.

00:31:12.000 And I was dressed as Osomar Bin Laden. 0.82

00:31:15.000 I was like, I went that day.

00:31:17.000 Because the reason I was excited is because I would have been watching some Alex Jones style thing.

00:31:22.000 And I'd heard of like, you know, Alex Jones did a video like, a guy called Osomar Bin Laden is going to blow up in the 9-11.

00:31:28.000 He did that before.

00:31:29.000 So I'd heard of him.

00:31:30.000 I hadn't heard that he was going to blow up, you know, the Twin Towers.

00:31:32.000 I just knew about Osomar Bin Laden.

00:31:34.000 And it was kind of the equivalent of like when you've liked a band for a while.

00:31:38.000 And then that band becomes like a big band. 0.99

00:31:40.000 You're like, I knew about this shit, man! 0.99

00:31:42.000 So I dressed as him the next day. 1.00

00:31:44.000 And it was crazy.

00:31:46.000 I took my drug dealer, Gritty, I took him to work with me.

00:31:49.000 He brought his little son, Edwin, into school.

00:31:51.000 And the little boy was quite innocent, really.

00:31:53.000 I mean, I was obviously taking heroin and crack.

00:31:54.000 But little Edwin was very excited to meet Kylie Minogue and getting autographs.

00:31:59.000 And stuff like that.

00:32:00.000 And anyway, like...

00:32:07.000 I felt conflicted working at MTV. 1.00

00:32:08.000 I knew, like, MTV's a major corporation and they're bullshit. 0.95

00:32:11.000 I was reading things like Adbusters then and, like, knowing that, the commercial, oh, GM Motors, Ignitions, 40 Ignition, No Recall, Big Pharma. 0.98

00:32:19.000 You know, I was already, before I went into entertainment, I was drug-free.

00:32:22.000 Like, and what I feel like is the culture can't hold itself together anymore.

00:32:26.000 There's no cohesive set of values.

00:32:29.000 That's what, when I'm talking about Kanye West, that's why I'm disappointing that.

00:32:31.000 You know, that lady didn't want to come on. 1.00

00:32:34.000 Because I'm not like, Tony West and his anti-Semitic stance is great. 0.99

00:32:39.000 I'm saying, what I'm saying is, what kind of culture are we that you can't have like a crazy edgy pop star? 0.99

00:32:46.000 Sid Vicious went around with fucking swastika on his t-shirt. 0.98

00:32:49.000 Like, you know, people, like, artists do weird stuff. 0.99

00:32:52.000 When René Deschamps brings a urinal into a gallery and says, there, this is art!

00:32:58.000 You know, like, what?

00:32:59.000 The thing we piss in is art?

00:33:01.000 Yes!

00:33:01.000 Art is what I say art is.

00:33:03.000 You know, like, what are we asking of our culture?

00:33:06.000 What do we even believe in anymore?

00:33:08.000 And I suppose like, you know, what we're saying in terms of art is there going to be no more, you're not going to have great artists anymore because the culture is homogenizing.

00:33:17.000 The culture can't take Yeah, a genuine artist.

00:33:23.000 They're replacing it with some synthetic version of entertainment to distract.

00:33:28.000 But the artist, you can't control the artist.

00:33:31.000 I mean, go back and watch Picasso, any of those stories about any of the great artists.

00:33:35.000 There's going to have ups and downs.

00:33:37.000 They're going to say crazy things.

00:33:39.000 They're going to do crazy things.

00:33:40.000 And that's what makes them a genuine artist that then has an impact on society for the good, for the better.

00:33:46.000 I mean, Charlie, all those guys.

00:33:48.000 I mean, they don't have that.

00:33:49.000 They want to remove it.

00:33:50.000 They want everybody to be some artist version of themselves for, like, false entertainment.

00:33:56.000 And that's going to continue to happen.

00:33:58.000 You're going to have these false societies, and that's what it feels like.

00:34:00.000 Because the artist's job is to bring stuff in from the periphery, from the edge, whether it's the artist or the shaman.

00:34:07.000 They start to go to the edge of the mind, the edge of what's possible, and bring stuff back and go, hey, what about this?

00:34:13.000 Whether it is Charlie Chaplin and mass entertainment and all those kind of things, or Elvis with his mad sexual energy.

00:34:19.000 I mean, look, the thing is, we live in a culture now where everything's being re-evaluated. 0.99

00:34:23.000 People just go back and go, well, actually, Johnny Cash was a fucking rapist, or, well, Gandhi slept with his name. 0.99

00:34:27.000 No one's got any regard. 0.99

00:34:29.000 Guard for the energy that's being brought in because the culture wants homogeneity.

00:34:34.000 What it wants is control.

00:34:36.000 And the way it can achieve control is homogeneity.

00:34:39.000 And the way it can achieve homogeneity is telling you that through safety, by protecting you, and convenience, by making your life easy, it can protect you.

00:34:47.000 Now what that does is it means you don't need the artist no more.

00:34:50.000 You don't want the artist.

00:34:51.000 You know, you can't handle the truth, in the words of Jack Nicholson.

00:34:54.000 You can't handle people that go right out to the edge, right where it nearly makes you go crazy just to be.

00:35:03.000 I've got some stuff to tell you!" You can't accommodate it.

00:35:07.000 No one wants it anymore.

00:35:08.000 But the problem is, actually, the need is still there.

00:35:11.000 We're still people.

00:35:12.000 We're still people.

00:35:13.000 So what becomes private and shameful increases in every individual.

00:35:18.000 Every individual is carrying this thing that they're not going to see reflected in the culture.

00:35:22.000 Except maybe they'll get it from Bonnie Blue or Lily Phillips or the sort of mass normalization of pornography. 0.74

00:35:29.000 You know, pornography versus the erotic.

00:35:31.000 What do they say?

00:35:32.000 Erotica uses a feather. 0.71

00:35:34.000 Pornography uses the whole chicken. 0.96

00:35:36.000 And we've got no room for elegance or delicacy or disgusting.

00:35:40.000 The refinement and challenge of being a person that knows you're going to die.

00:35:45.000 And what's being bred out of us, I think?

00:35:48.000 It's the sort of warrior's ability to sacrifice yourself for something higher.

00:35:53.000 And that's why I think when I'm looking at Acts, it's like every single one of those apostles and early Christians will, and stroke does, die for what they believe in. 0.57

00:36:05.000 I believe in this so much, there's nothing you can offer me. 0.99

00:36:07.000 You can't say to me, but we'll give you, you know, and when we watch Braveheart, and there's the bit in Braveheart where they go, listen, we'll set you up with gold, you're going to have lands, just drop this shit. 0.99

00:36:15.000 And William Wallace is like, no! 0.98

00:36:17.000 You're like, yes!

00:36:19.000 You know that's the right answer.

00:36:21.000 No one's watching it and going, oh, you could have had Sheffield.

00:36:26.000 No one's, like, watching it thinking that. 0.98

00:36:29.000 And, like, the culture somehow, was it offering us bullshit stuff that it can't make sense of? 0.81

00:36:34.000 You know, I would never celebrate those George Floyd memes where, like, people sort of make a mockery of the death of it. 0.89

00:36:41.000 But, you know, the fact that the culture tried to make a hero of a person that was inadvertently killed as a result, you know.

00:36:47.000 We're desperately trying to understand something.

00:36:50.000 We're desperately trying to create icons.

00:36:52.000 Out of nothing.

00:36:54.000 And nothing out of icons.

00:36:57.000 We're trying to create icons out of nothing and nothing out of icons.

00:37:00.000 So one minute you're saying Winston Churchill, that good dude's no big deal. 0.98

00:37:03.000 He was a fucking big deal, that guy! 0.99

00:37:05.000 He killed people in the First World War, prior to the First World War. 1.00

00:37:09.000 He fucked up in the First World War. 0.99

00:37:10.000 In the Second World War, he went into the darkness of who he was and found a way to make a whole nation. 0.99

00:37:17.000 Now, you could say that's just a myth.

00:37:19.000 If you look at it from this side, Hitler was great. 1.00

00:37:22.000 I don't know, man.

00:37:23.000 Then you're starting to deny even the categories of good and evil.

00:37:29.000 Redefine good and evil.

00:37:32.000 Redefine good and evil.

00:37:33.000 That's what the culture's doing.

00:37:34.000 It's just whatever it wants to be for whatever whim.

00:37:36.000 That's why you're even saying with the camps of people, you can't even find a camp that you...

00:37:43.000 It keeps shifting because they don't know.

00:37:44.000 They keep, you know, making fun of a Swedish accent, not, you know, making fun of a UK accent.

00:37:49.000 That's okay.

00:37:52.000 It's constantly shifting sands.

00:37:53.000 Have a look at that moment.

00:37:54.000 This is like, so in that minority report, they've sort of taken the piss out of, like, they're saying, oh, Russell Brown's Christian, and yet he's mocking Greta Thunberg's accent.

00:38:02.000 Quite gently, actually.

00:38:03.000 But then they sort of mock my accent.

00:38:06.000 I am from Sweden.

00:38:10.000 Can you see this video?

00:38:11.000 It doesn't seem terribly Christian to mock people that way.

00:38:16.000 Jesus loves speaking in tongues.

00:38:19.000 It's funny.

00:38:20.000 He seems to have come back around after the Yeah, he's a little bit back after the indictment.

00:38:30.000 I'm back out on probation.

00:38:32.000 We're in sunglasses indoors.

00:38:33.000 I'm back out on probation.

00:38:36.000 The Lord has not protected me in the way that I thought he did, so maybe I have to go back to my other means of generating revenue.

00:38:47.000 So, what is it that they believe?

00:38:50.000 Like, they don't believe anything, I don't think.

00:38:54.000 They believe nothing.

00:38:55.000 Like that really good bit in the Big Lebowski: "We're nihilists!

00:38:58.000 We don't believe nothing!" Like, "Oh no!

00:39:01.000 They don't believe nothing!" Oh, shit. 1.00

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00:41:03.000 With irony, Isaac will press the button on 9-11, which is probably what happened in the first place.

00:41:10.000 It is wrong, blasphemous, and sinful for you to suggest, imply, or help other people come to the conclusion that the US government killed 3,000 of its own citizens.

00:41:22.000 Tucker was pretty sexy.

00:41:24.000 I didn't know that.

00:41:26.000 Good looking guy.

00:41:28.000 That's a frat boy like, you know, the hair like that.

00:41:31.000 Lovely.

00:41:32.000 That's maybe when he was all coked up then.

00:41:34.000 That's like Abercrombie back in the 90s.

00:41:37.000 He's lovely.

00:41:37.000 That was nice.

00:41:38.000 I don't know if I'm going to be able to relax next time I meet him after seeing that clip.

00:41:41.000 Thank you.

00:42:10.000 Thank you.

00:42:24.000 It looks like one of those scenes of an old building being purposely dynamited and blown up.

00:42:29.000 Anybody who's ever watched a building being demolished on purpose knows that if you're going to do this, you have to get at the under-infrastructure of a building.

00:42:37.000 Oh man, something weird went on.

00:42:38.000 And you don't need to watch very much of this to know that kind They can do a lot of work.

00:42:45.000 And what it was is the girders were like this and it was designed in a special way to accommodate wind and the jet fuel.

00:42:52.000 But you've still watched that and it's like, that's all right.

00:42:54.000 No way.

00:42:55.000 No chance.

00:42:56.000 Oh, and like when Bill Hicks does that bit about like, Bill Hicks does this amazing bit of stand-up about JFK.

00:43:02.000 In fact, we can maybe even throw it in, where he talks about, hey, like on the...

00:43:13.000 I think named that after the assassination.

00:43:17.000 And then he goes, you know, he goes, you can go in the building and look where Oswald took the shot, but they don't let you go right up to the window. 0.99

00:43:30.000 I can't even see the fucking road! 1.00

00:43:33.000 They're lying to us! 1.00

00:43:35.000 They're lying to us! 1.00

00:43:36.000 No fucking way! 1.00

00:43:40.000 I can't even see the road! 1.00

00:43:42.000 Shit, they're lying to us! 1.00

00:43:45.000 Because if you saw where he was meant to have got off that shot, you'd go, oh my god! 1.00

00:43:51.000 And when you watch this, it's the same feeling, isn't it?

00:43:54.000 Well, whatever the truth was, it ain't what they were telling us at the time.

00:43:59.000 So, with what they're telling you now, do you think maybe they're lying about that?

00:44:05.000 Well, anybody who's ever watched a building being demolished on purpose knows that if you're going to do this, you have to get at the under-infrastructure of a building and bring it down.

00:44:14.000 The way the structure is collapsing, this was the result of something that was planned.

00:44:19.000 It's not accidental that the first tower just happened to collapse and then the second tower just happened to collapse in exactly the same way.

00:44:27.000 How they accomplished this, we don't know.

00:44:29.000 The building collapsed to dust.

00:44:32.000 You don't find a desk.

00:44:34.000 You don't find and share.

00:44:36.000 You don't find a telephone, a computer.

00:44:39.000 The biggest piece of a telephone I found was half of the keypad, and it was about this big.

00:44:46.000 What happened to the car?

00:44:47.000 Concrete was pulverized.

00:44:49.000 From river to river, there was dust powder, two to three inches thick.

00:44:53.000 The concrete was just halderized.

00:44:56.000 Remember listening to those pictures?

00:44:57.000 You've all seen too much on television.

00:45:00.000 They're poor when they are building.

00:45:01.000 The images are so unbelievable, aren't they?

00:45:04.000 That it's totally era-defining.

00:45:06.000 Those streets full of smoke, towers coming down.

00:45:09.000 It's biblical, isn't it?

00:45:10.000 We were living in a myth when that was happening.

00:45:12.000 Well, and it's what you said.

00:45:13.000 Now, knowing what we know now, what we've seen, COVID, all of it, you can go back and go, that's not right.

00:45:19.000 Yeah.

00:45:20.000 When that happened before, you're going, no way that somebody would do that.

00:45:24.000 No, but they would never do that.

00:45:26.000 Not, well, the government, those guys with their suits and ties and their lovely hair and their flags.

00:45:30.000 So 25 years, you know, you're like, or whatever it's been.

00:45:33.000 Total collapsing trust.

00:45:35.000 That's doable.

00:45:36.000 What do you say, Luke?

00:45:37.000 Yeah, I mean, I've seen, like, quick clips of this before, but as I'm sitting here watching all these back-to-back-to-back, I'm like, there's absolutely no way that was just a plane hitting it.

00:45:45.000 Like, there's clearly got to be something else that happened there, because I've just never seen it, like, that get, like, in consecutive order like that.

00:45:51.000 It's crazy.

00:45:51.000 So do you, let's just get a quick boat.

00:45:54.000 Who thinks it was an inside job before watching this?

00:45:56.000 Like, what?

00:45:57.000 Yeah, everyone.

00:45:58.000 I mean, inside job.

00:46:00.000 It doesn't melt steel beams.

00:46:03.000 Right.

00:46:03.000 So that's a whole generation.

00:46:04.000 That's all of us.

00:46:05.000 I suppose maybe we're a particular demographic.

00:46:08.000 I believe it was just the planes.

00:46:11.000 I think that that was clearly just two planes hit it.

00:46:14.000 The thing that I don't believe is Tower 7 fell because of fire.

00:46:17.000 That's the thing I don't believe.

00:46:19.000 But, like, the World Trade Center, I mean, plain as day, two planes hit it.

00:46:22.000 It's a pretty big thing to kind of cover up.

00:46:25.000 Having said that, though, when I first watched this in 2007, at the end of it, I was like, it's the U.S. government.

00:46:30.000 So, like, it can convince you of pretty much anything, but I think it's definitely planes hit it.

00:46:35.000 So you think the planes just collapsed that building like that?

00:46:39.000 No, I think that the plane at crazy velocity with all that fuel setting off fires in a building, which I don't think the building was designed for two planes to hit it.

00:46:48.000 You know, the buildings fell due to earthquakes and then they changed how buildings were kind of built in order to...

00:46:56.000 take earthquakes and stuff like that.

00:46:57.000 I just, I'm sure new buildings, Who knows how that stuff could go down, but it just seems like such a crazy conspiracy.

00:47:08.000 Think about all the different...

00:47:12.000 I don't know.

00:47:13.000 I guess we're going to find out more about it.

00:47:14.000 By the way, that's a generalised argument against conspiracy that, though, isn't it?

00:47:18.000 It's like, it's too hard to...

00:47:27.000 Well, you'd need the pharmaceutical industry.

00:47:29.000 You'd need the media.

00:47:30.000 But the fact is, is then, in particular, you had that.

00:47:34.000 You had those relationships.

00:47:35.000 And I suppose it's like that, like what I feel like is...

00:47:46.000 If you have true audacity, people can't kind of fathom that that would actually happen.

00:47:52.000 Another way of looking at it is the results.

00:47:55.000 Who benefited, quo bono, from this?

00:47:59.000 Well, as a result of this, some of the most powerful interests in the world benefited.

00:48:03.000 The military-industrial complex benefited.

00:48:05.000 They were able to leverage new laws around privacy.

00:48:08.000 They were able to legitimize changes that were favorable.

00:48:10.000 And you can use that analysis, I think, with a pandemic.

00:48:13.000 Who benefited from it?

00:48:14.000 Is there a wealth track?

00:48:15.000 Well, what are the symptoms and indicators that there could be malfeasance?

00:48:19.000 Did powerful interests benefit?

00:48:20.000 Yeah, the state were able to regulate.

00:48:22.000 Big pharma profited.

00:48:23.000 Big tech profited.

00:48:24.000 All of the most powerful interests.

00:48:26.000 Indeed, why 9-11, I think, is significant is it's the beginning, at least as far as in the modern era, I suppose, of the idea that crisis is beneficial to elites and only detrimental.

00:48:39.000 To the majority, to the population at large.

00:48:42.000 In fact, it doesn't even qualify as a crisis.

00:48:45.000 So like, if you're like, you know, if it doesn't affect you at all, if your stock prices go up, if you're able to legislate and regulate, if you get the war, how is it a crisis?

00:48:53.000 I, like you though, Massey, have the idea of like, Surely there would be other ways of achieving the result of regime change in Iraq, controlling Kuwait oil fields, legislature for war, closing down on privacy without doing that.

00:49:10.000 But are there, though?

00:49:11.000 You know, what seems to be like, you know, getting out of the matrix is people, you can't just tell people, we're taking power, you're going to get locked in your house.

00:49:19.000 People will reject.

00:49:20.000 What you have to create is a kind of bewilderment and chaos.

00:49:22.000 That's what I'm learning at the moment, it seems, is that through bewilderment, Well, to me, it's kind of like with Pearl Harbor and things like that, where you need something big to mobilize the populace to really get behind what you're trying to do as a government.

00:49:47.000 When you go to, like, kind of like the moon landing, right?

00:49:49.000 Like, how many people the Russians didn't deny it, things like that. 0.98

00:49:52.000 But then when you get into, like, MKUltra and stuff, you see that, like, they really didn't have this wide swath of people that, you know, were behind this and keeping it quiet.

00:50:01.000 Really, it was just, like, a select group of five people, six people that were able to keep it down and tell everybody else, like, hey, this is what we're doing, but really we're doing this.

00:50:11.000 You know, kind of like 9-11, you could have a top brass that knows what actually happened.

00:50:16.000 Filter out a story down the media pipeline, and then everybody is just convinced.

00:50:21.000 And you don't need so many people to keep it a secret.

00:50:24.000 Most of these people probably don't even know, you know, because the truth is being hidden by the top left.

00:50:29.000 That's good.

00:50:30.000 Nodes in a sort of a network of power where only certain nodes are even activated or even understand it.

00:50:37.000 Not to mention what we're learning now is that you have sort of a blackmail culture where lots of people in positions of significant power, it's not like they're morally able to elect.

00:50:46.000 To whistleblow or whatever.

00:50:48.000 They are controlled.

00:50:51.000 And interesting as well, after this, we have like WikiLeaks where we sort of learn, like, you know, think of what Julian Assange, like, experienced.

00:51:04.000 It was like, you know, some friendly fire killed people in Iraq.

00:51:07.000 The Democrats were sending emails around that was a bit shady with Hillary Clinton.

00:51:11.000 And it's not like he was like, look, man, we've got images of this person doing this or that. 0.98

00:51:18.000 That guy's like, you're going to jail without trial for 10 years and we'll kill you if we can.

00:51:23.000 And it's only because of, you know, the cause got kind of popularized that Julian Assange just wasn't CIA'd right out of it.

00:51:29.000 Thinking about the timing of this, this is the time to do it.

00:51:32.000 It's like the technology wasn't as advanced even now with everybody's cell phones taking videos from thousands of years' perspective.

00:51:39.000 You still watch the news.

00:51:41.000 The news was like, this is breaking news.

00:51:43.000 We're not on the internet looking at it.

00:51:46.000 Remember all the Enron scandal?

00:51:48.000 Do you remember all that?

00:51:48.000 It was like a tech company that was lying about the technology that they had, apparently, or sometimes is there a conspiracy even within Enron?

00:51:58.000 Were they somehow not able How can we do this?

00:52:08.000 And they just didn't have it yet.

00:52:10.000 You know, they didn't have all the...

00:52:11.000 And now we're in this AI world, we're in this...

00:52:15.000 Everybody's filming.

00:52:16.000 but all that time was perfect time to do this because camcorders That was the end of an era of innocence.

00:52:24.000 Are you talking about Enron or Theranos?

00:52:26.000 Enron.

00:52:26.000 Casternos also, Yeah, that was another one.

00:52:36.000 And they couldn't do it.

00:52:41.000 And now I feel like what trouble can we get in now that the technology is actually there?

00:52:45.000 I reckon that we're living in unanticipated challenges like this sort of technology that could be used

00:52:58.000 as it plays out commercially and broadly and generally there are unanticipated consequences say something like one of the things i've noticed since we've been working in this independent media space something like nordstrom pipeline like you they were able to go yeah we fit the russians did that themselves they blew up their own pipeline but now it's so quick people are like Like, the response is so quick and so rapid.

00:53:20.000 You've got journalists like Seymour Hoffman, who's like Pulitzer Prize-winning old-school going, there's no way they did that.

00:53:24.000 You've got Jocko Willink saying, like, you know, well, we're Navy SEALs, we'd know how to do that all day long. 1.00

00:53:29.000 You can't pull that shit off no more. 0.99

00:53:31.000 In a way, this is like the end of innocence. 1.00

00:53:34.000 So, like, I think Brad Evans' analysis that when the Berlin Wall comes down, there's the only one world now.

00:53:40.000 Like, there is one uniform world.

00:53:41.000 When the 9-11 Tower happens, it's a kind of, I think what you're saying is important.

00:53:45.000 It was the last moment of that era.

00:53:48.000 And maybe even Massey's perspective, which is obviously sort of highly subjective, that it's like, you know, they say that the 90s was like the 60s redone.

00:53:55.000 That's what people sort of feel like.

00:53:56.000 It was a permissive era.

00:53:57.000 There was e-culture instead of whatever drug culture fueled like the 1960s.

00:54:02.000 It was a sort of an attempt to sort of reboot joy through the culture, which definitely collapsed like it did in the 60s, all that stuff.

00:54:10.000 But the master system is excellent, whether you can sort of see it.

00:54:15.000 Assimilating and accommodating the periphery. 0.97

00:54:18.000 You see all the time in culture, something emerges in hip-hop, and it's all like, my God, this is fucking terrifying! 0.70

00:54:25.000 And then before you know it, they're just talking about girls and jewellery. 0.97

00:54:29.000 Now you agree with the system that the goals are sex and commodity. 0.98

00:54:34.000 You no longer are like, we're going to fucking bring down the institutions, the police, what? 0.96

00:54:40.000 It's very scary. 0.93

00:54:41.000 And punk, the same thing happened.

00:54:43.000 So, with cultural ephemera, you can observe it.

00:54:46.000 With geopolitics, it's harder to observe it, because I don't think we know all the jigsaw pieces, we don't know all the narratives, particularly, you know, occult means, by definition, concealed information.

00:54:56.000 Obscene means information that's coming in that shouldn't be there.

00:55:00.000 It's curious that the master politician of our time, Donald Trump, is masterful at using information from the outside, that you're not used to having that information brought in.

00:55:10.000 When you see him at the G7, you're like, whoa!

00:55:13.000 This dude don't play like the others.

00:55:14.000 He tells you stuff.

00:55:16.000 We know where that guy is.

00:55:17.000 We're not going to kill him yet, but we can.

00:55:19.000 It's the sort of stuff that we all knew was the deal with Saddam Hussein.

00:55:22.000 Like, my friend said to me, like, Saddam Hussein, you know, you're told it's a trial.

00:55:26.000 You know, there's a courtroom.

00:55:27.000 There's mahogany.

00:55:28.000 But like how Stalin used to have trials for his adversaries that were ultimately going to be executed, we all knew what was going to happen to Saddam Hussein. 0.54

00:55:36.000 Like, there's no way that Saddam Hussein was going to be like, well, actually, he's innocent.

00:55:40.000 Mojo business.

00:55:41.000 He's going to walk out and go back.

00:55:42.000 I can run Iraq again. 1.00

00:55:43.000 You know, we already took down the fucking statue, mate. 1.00

00:55:45.000 It's over. 0.99

00:55:46.000 It was a matter of time before we get the real one.

00:55:48.000 So, like, isn't it interesting that I think that what's happening right now in our culture is amazing because Donald Trump is both a throwback and...

00:55:59.000 and an outlier simultaneously because he does stuff like telling you the truth in weird ways that don't seem right. 0.97

00:56:06.000 But if Tucker Carlson is correct that this conflict now takes down the Trump presidency, Fuck knows. 0.96

00:56:16.000 Because, like, that's the end of that idea. 0.99

00:56:19.000 The idea of, like, we're going to have someone that's like a plain-speaking entrepreneurial tycoon dude who's coming out and just going, well, we're just going to kill him. 0.88

00:56:26.000 Like, I don't know.

00:56:27.000 We use the same loopholes.

00:56:28.000 If that don't work, is it going to be J.D. Vance and, like, his relationship with Peter Thiel?

00:56:34.000 Is it going to be the Democrats, Gavin Newsom, new global imperialism?

00:56:38.000 But what, in any event, I reckon where both sides align is crisis.

00:56:43.000 Crisis benefits.

00:56:45.000 Crisis benefits.

00:56:45.000 And unless we sort of somehow prize apart this sort of polarity of that system, we're all collateral damage, I would say.

00:56:53.000 Gosh, that was a lot, wasn't it, guys?

00:56:54.000 We've watched about 30 seconds of the documentary.

00:56:57.000 Wherever you're watching us, if you're watching us on Rumble even now, get Rumble Premium because we'll do some extra.

00:57:03.000 Thanks, Tim Kast.

00:57:04.000 Thanks, Mug Club, for the raid, I hope. 1.00

00:57:06.000 We've all seen too much on television before when a building was deliberately destroyed by world-class dynamite to knock it down.

00:57:14.000 Is this the density?

00:57:15.000 Yes, density.

00:57:18.000 I heard a second explosion.

00:57:20.000 It was a heavy-duty explosion.

00:57:22.000 Then we saw secondary explosions, and then the subsequent collapses.

00:57:25.000 The explosion blew, and it knocked everybody over.

00:57:28.000 To me, it sounded like an explosion.

00:57:30.000 It sounded like gunfire.

00:57:31.000 Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.

00:57:32.000 And then all of a sudden, three big explosions.

00:57:34.000 And we heard a big explosion coming down.

00:57:36.000 And then the entire top of the building just blew up.

00:57:39.000 We saw some kind of explosion.

00:57:40.000 By the force of the explosions.

00:57:42.000 Big explosion.

00:57:43.000 Blew us back into the eighth floor.

00:57:44.000 Then we get to the lobby.

00:57:46.000 This is the biggest.

00:57:46.000 This is the lobby.

00:57:47.000 In the lobby for Peugeot, a bomb had exploded there.

00:57:50.000 A huge explosion now raining the rain.

00:57:52.000 It's been a huge explosion.

00:57:54.000 Huge explosion that we all heard and felt.

00:57:57.000 We just witnessed some kind of follow-up explosion.

00:58:00.000 We heard a very loud blast explosion.

00:58:03.000 A second-term explosion in Colorado.

00:58:06.000 That is another bomb going off.

00:58:08.000 He thinks that there were actually devices that were planted in the building.

00:58:12.000 planted in the building.

00:58:14.000 The building is a building of the building.

00:58:43.000 I suppose maybe I could read that text because that, like, look, who can refute or dispute any of this?

00:58:50.000 19 hijackers directed by Osama bin Laden took over four commercial jets with box cutters and while evading the air defense system hit 75% of their targets.

00:58:59.000 In turn the World Trade Towers 1, 2 and 7 collapsed due to structural failure through fire in a pancake in very common fashion while the plane that hit the Pentagon vaporized upon impact.

00:59:08.000 You know you sort of forget stuff all the time.

00:59:10.000 You forget like you know you can't hold it in your head.

00:59:12.000 Oh yeah the Pentagon.

00:59:13.000 Oh yeah building 7. As did the plane that crashed in Shanksville.

00:59:16.000 The 9-11 Commission found that there were no war This act of terrorism, while multiple government failures prevented adequate defence.

00:59:23.000 I mean, look, when you look at it like that, that's the official version.

00:59:27.000 And look at how scant update or re-evaluation there's been in the interceding 20 years.

00:59:34.000 24 years.

00:59:34.000 No one's gone, well, yeah, this is why that...

00:59:39.000 Someone might be able to say with those eyewitnesses going, oh, there was an explosion.

00:59:42.000 What that will be would be successive explosions of various flammable things in the building.

00:59:47.000 You know, something like that you can maybe counter. 0.95

00:59:49.000 But what the fuck happened to that plane in the Pentagon? 0.96

00:59:52.000 That's like, those ones, we've all just sort of had to... 0.98

00:59:59.000 It's sort of too much to handle.

01:00:01.000 And you've seen a bunch of people I mean, just go research it.

01:00:06.000 Just go look at what they look like.

01:00:08.000 This doesn't look the same.

01:00:09.000 And I think that Tucker had a guy on not too long ago that said it was like a clip of him getting up there, a firefighter, putting out the fires, essentially going like, yeah, we're good.

01:00:21.000 And then everything collapses.

01:00:22.000 So even like the fuel, there's stuff of people just putting out the fires once they see the wreckage that was there.

01:00:29.000 And then it all falls apart.

01:00:32.000 And this is where like our new orthodoxy of science becomes, for me, interesting, is no one's conducting clinical trials, experiments, or even simulations that disprove the validity and authority of the system.

01:00:44.000 So like, given that there's this level of question, you go, all right, well, let's just take that amount of jet fuel and let's create a simulation and show what I'm...

01:01:00.000 Because they'd be like, Russell's now on this new government group, and you get in there, and you're excited to look at the data, and then they interview you, and you're like, we looked at it.

01:01:11.000 That was planes.

01:01:13.000 Yeah.

01:01:13.000 That's the Kash Patel, that's the Bongino.

01:01:16.000 There's no files there.

01:01:18.000 Is it possible they don't show you all the files?

01:01:21.000 Oh, man.

01:01:22.000 Like, I suppose, look, this is the...

01:01:24.000 What I reckon, again, another macro narrative as it were...

01:01:30.000 They saw the Arab Spring.

01:01:32.000 Then they look at the emergence of independent media.

01:01:34.000 Now, one aspect of it is the Cambridge Analytica model, where people, through advanced modes of campaigning, can engineer new voter bases and, with bespoke information, control.

01:01:46.000 Like, you know, this is a target seat.

01:01:48.000 This is a swing state.

01:01:49.000 target through Facebook ads these people.

01:01:51.000 But what people aren't That people could get activated around any niche issue you want.

01:02:10.000 that one little incident could fire up social and cultural revolutions.

01:02:15.000 So I think in an attempt to sort of mute, neuter politics, They engineer astroturf social movements.

01:02:25.000 Even something like Black Lives Matter might be like that. 0.76

01:02:27.000 You know, through that, it creates complexity.

01:02:29.000 Like, if you ever get an issue, like in my country, I've always thought this. 0.98

01:02:33.000 Like, you know, I used to think, when I used to see early, this is why I've got, this is why I was never dismissive about Tommy Robinson, even when I was part of a social group that were like, that guy's a fucking racist, right? 0.96

01:02:43.000 Was because I saw footage.

01:02:46.000 of people campaigning on one of the times he was jailed or something, probably 15 years ago, certainly before I was married and stuff.

01:02:52.000 I was thinking, if that energy...

01:02:56.000 It's like men in the streets. 0.94

01:03:00.000 That's the energy you need.

01:03:03.000 That's not what changes governments.

01:03:05.000 And I used to think then, if you could get the Muslim people that, ironically, Tommy Robinson hates, I don't mean it like that, I'm being reductive, and the Tommy Robinson to go, we are aligned on this goal.

01:03:18.000 In this country, think of the people that are going to be most agitated by defund the police.

01:03:24.000 People from the military, people from service, people who've lost family members as a result. 0.99

01:03:29.000 You've just lost the motherfuckers that are most likely to be of any use to you. 0.97

01:03:32.000 I heard that when BLM was coming down here to this region, they were going to do a protest around Pensacola. 0.99

01:03:39.000 There was just a circulated thing of, yeah, there's a lot of veterans around here, and we're just going to be ready, because the police might take 5-10 minutes to respond.

01:03:48.000 Just so you know, do your protest.

01:03:49.000 We'll be, like, in the Ram Longhorns, ready to go.

01:03:53.000 Like, you know, and guess what?

01:03:55.000 They never had the protest.

01:03:57.000 Now, like, you know, so, like, and if you had, if you ever found a position where the people that are active, see, even what's amazing about MAGA is all that, that class of people in general.

01:04:08.000 Found a conduit.

01:04:09.000 Like, you know, America first. 0.70

01:04:10.000 Respect our service personnel.

01:04:12.000 Respect our borders. 0.94

01:04:12.000 This is our nation. 0.94

01:04:13.000 We fought for this nation.

01:04:15.000 Like if you ever found a position where those people were like, you know, down with the blue hairs on something, if they were like, yeah, we like agree that what needs to change is this.

01:04:31.000 When the intelligentsia, those that have read the books and understand all this shit, get involved with, like, the peasant class or the early industrial classes, that's when you have big, big problems. 0.99

01:04:41.000 But the problem is the intelligentsia are right fucking bastards and exploit the proletariat as soon as they're in a position of power. 1.00

01:04:49.000 Right down to beheading them. 1.00

01:04:50.000 So there's a brief history of revolution based on seven minutes of footage. 0.96

01:04:53.000 Hey, listen, we're going to continue watching this on our first day watch along with the beloved team.

01:05:00.000 Thank you, Luke, for your contributions.

01:05:01.000 Thank you, beloved Massey.

01:05:03.000 Yeah, you're doing great.

01:05:04.000 Thanks, Massey.

01:05:05.000 Cheers, Jake.

01:05:06.000 Thanks, Isaac.

01:05:07.000 We'll continue watching this, but you've got to get Rumble Premium to participate in the rest of our conversation.

01:05:12.000 But through Rumble Premium, you don't only get our stuff, you get Crowder, you get Tim Pool, you get Glenn Greenwald, you get additional content for everyone.

01:05:18.000 As well as, I forget to tell you this, an ad-free experience.

01:05:21.000 Plus, when it comes to Rolf Ross's contract renewal, I will thank you for it.

01:05:26.000 Personally, we should start letting people come to live shows.

01:05:28.000 That's what I think we should start doing.

01:05:29.000 All right, guys.

01:05:30.000 Thanks for watching.

01:05:31.000 See you tomorrow.

01:05:32.000 No, next week.

01:05:33.000 Not for more of the same, but for more of the different.

01:05:34.000 Until then, if you can, stay free. 0.99

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Stay Free - Russel Brand - June 19, 2025

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