Stay Free - Russel Brand - Aaron Siri REVEALS the Shocking Truth Behind Vaccine Trials – SF509

00:00:00.000 Thank you.

00:03:16.000 In this video, you're going to see the future.

00:03:31.000 Thanks for joining me today for Stay Free with Russell Brand.

00:03:34.000 It's a very special show with an amazing interview.

00:03:37.000 Let me, before I get into explaining my guest as if he could ever be explained, I'm going to tell you that for the first 15 minutes we're going to be available on YouTube.

00:03:46.000 But then you're going to have to click the link in the description because what we're talking about is too contentious and explosive to be streamed on media outlets that are primarily about curating your appreciation of reality.

00:03:59.000 We're going to be talking about vaccine mandates.

00:04:01.000 We're going to be talking about the lack of clinical trials on transmission and even potentially the use of aborted fetal tissues in vaccines.

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00:04:29.000 Let me introduce today's guest to you.

00:04:31.000 Any fans of the film Erin Brockovich will know that not all lawyers are fundamentally and by their nature evil.

00:04:38.000 Once in a while, the universe will throw out a lawyer for righteousness and for justice.

00:04:44.000 We don't know how these people are created.

00:04:47.000 These people who, like Saul, become Paul, who have the scales fall from their eyes and become prophets of truth and justice.

00:04:55.000 Aaron Siri is one such man, managing partner at Siri and Glimsted LLP, specialising in complex civil litigation, most notably fighting against Supreme, all the way to the Supreme Court against mandates, ensuring that the CDC released data that they were trying ensuring that the CDC released data that they were trying to keep secret, and also ensuring that sexy babies don't need to be injected with hepatitis B, a disease that they can only catch through coitus and through shared needles, which would seem to be a pretty unnecessary

00:05:21.000 be a disease that they can only catch through coitus and through shared needles, which would seem to be a pretty unnecessary vaccination, except for the most, well, unless those babies are finding their way into the wrong company, I would consider that to be an unnecessary inoculation.

00:05:37.000 It's my great privilege to introduce my friend and our guest today, Aaron Siri.

00:05:43.000 Thank you so much for joining us today, Aaron.

00:05:45.000 It's great to be here, Ross.

00:05:46.000 It was such a joy to spend a bit of time with you, and I'm very excited to see how the kind of high-profile cases you fought may subsequently, due to your affiliation, shall we call them, affect the way that America is governed in the next affect the way that America is governed in the next administration.

00:06:05.000 Now, I know that you're very good, Aaron, at helping people to understand precisely what went on in the pandemic period and what was revealed to us.

00:06:13.000 One of the things you explained to me that was beautiful is if I was always assiduous about observing the profit motive, I would understand a lot more about how the pharmaceutical industry conducts its business.

00:06:27.000 First off, could you just tell us a little bit about some of your most famous victories?

00:06:33.000 For example, getting the CDC to release data that they wanted to conceal.

00:06:38.000 We've reported on your work before.

00:06:40.000 Notably, it was you that I think brought to public attention the fact that Pfizer were granted 75 years of protections against the revelation of their clinical trial data, and also you publicly fought against mandates all the way up to the Supreme Court.

00:06:56.000 Can you tell us a little bit, I suppose, about how you've become the Erin Brockovich of anti-Big Pharma?

00:07:04.000 Well, that's very kind words.

00:07:07.000 I can tell you about a few of the lawsuits that we've done.

00:07:10.000 One of them you mentioned was fighting with the FDA to get the clinical trial documents that they relied upon to license Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine.

00:07:18.000 Remember, they said they did a thorough and complete review of those documents.

00:07:22.000 They did it in about 100 days.

00:07:24.000 But yet when we wanted a copy of them to release them to the public so the public could take a look at them, They said they needed to reduce them at a rate of a few hundred pages a month, which would have taken at least 75 years to make public.

00:07:38.000 Simple transparency.

00:07:39.000 If you've got nothing to hide, why hide it?

00:07:42.000 We've also represented like 17 members of Congress challenging mask mandates on planes.

00:07:47.000 We represented and got injunction against the U.S. Air Force and the U.S. Army who tried to kick off folks who don't COVID-19 vaccine.

00:07:54.000 We fought COVID-19 vaccine mandates across country, including California.

00:07:59.000 We fought to release Fauci's email, some of which you saw on the news.

00:08:03.000 You know, at the end of the day, Russell, you know, For everybody out there who might love every vaccine and you love masks, you love stay-at-home orders, that's great, right?

00:08:13.000 You should be able to get whatever product you want, but if the day comes that you don't want one of those products, And you can't leave your home without getting one of them, and you can't get a job, and you can't go to school, and you can't participate in civil society, you will realize how critically important it is to not cede your right to decide what is injected and put on your body to the government.

00:08:39.000 You point out that there is a requirement for virtue and for truly tethered principles.

00:08:46.000 Even with the recent revelation that Hunter Biden will be pardoned, you start to realise that the law, far from being, in many cases, a set of objective principles that remain the same regardless of who they're being applied to, The law itself has been utilised, and it seems that that utility is granted particularly to members of the elite or elite organisations.

00:09:11.000 Is it that groups like Pfizer, Moderna, these powerful entities and their relationships with supposed regulatory bodies have managed to somehow bypass, weaponise, if not weaponise, certainly utilise the law, Aaron?

00:09:26.000 How are they able to do that when the law is meant to be a kind of An irrefutable object, a set of principles that remain static somehow.

00:09:36.000 Yeah, there's two powerful forces that are in tension, okay?

00:09:40.000 On the one hand, you have those who have incredible financial interests, and they also have the money, they have the organization, they have the long game to try and get what they want.

00:09:52.000 For example, most agencies are, I think, created with Mel, meaning legislative members of Congress or in the United Kingdom, members of parliament.

00:10:00.000 They mean well.

00:10:01.000 They say, hey, you know what?

00:10:01.000 There's a problem.

00:10:02.000 We're going to create a government entity to do that.

00:10:04.000 And that government entity can also make regulations.

00:10:07.000 But who's got the time, the money, the ability to influence that body to make the regulations that they want?

00:10:14.000 Is it you, Russell?

00:10:15.000 Is it Everybody in the UK, is it the average citizen?

00:10:18.000 No, they don't even know what's going on.

00:10:19.000 It's those who have the money who are going to be affected by those regs.

00:10:24.000 And over time, they start slowly engaging what's known as agency capture.

00:10:29.000 Not a term I created in the political science literature.

00:10:32.000 So on the one hand, you have that.

00:10:33.000 You have the creeping...

00:10:35.000 Revolving door with industry, influence of the special interest groups.

00:10:42.000 Pharma, for example, has over 2,000 lobbyists, right?

00:10:45.000 How many lobbyists do those who are injured by COVID-19 vaccines or vaccines have?

00:10:50.000 In the United States, zero.

00:10:51.000 So who's going to win out in a legislative contest over the laws?

00:10:55.000 Who's going to influence the laws?

00:10:56.000 So that's one side.

00:10:58.000 The other side is that their cultural cognition, what the public actually Thinks about an issue, can't have an impact if it's widespread enough, if the public rises up enough.

00:11:09.000 An example that I can give is gay marriage.

00:11:13.000 So in the United States, gay marriage was never going to be found to be a constitutional right by the United States Supreme Court in the 1800s.

00:11:19.000 Not in 1910, not in 1920, not in 1930. At some point, that changed.

00:11:24.000 What changed?

00:11:26.000 What changed was cultural cognition.

00:11:28.000 What the people, what the masses viewed on that issue.

00:11:32.000 And so, you know, those who want to take away your rights are always pushing to take them away.

00:11:36.000 And at some point, the people really do have to rise up to fight against that.

00:11:41.000 I mean, I'll add one more point to that, if I may, and it's this.

00:11:45.000 When you think about the American, the UK, the experiment of the developing world in many ways.

00:11:52.000 What was it in opposition to?

00:11:54.000 What was the United States born in opposition to?

00:11:57.000 It was born out of this idea that individual rights, the right for you to say what you want, assemble with who you want, practice the religion you want, those come with dangers.

00:12:08.000 Letting people say what they want, there are dangers with that.

00:12:11.000 Assembling, those come with dangers.

00:12:12.000 They all come with dangers.

00:12:14.000 But that the greater danger is ceding those rights.

00:12:18.000 To some central authority, whether it's a king, a dictator, some committee, that that is always the greatest danger because once you see those rights, you rarely get them back.

00:12:29.000 And that central authority always ends up abusing that power.

00:12:33.000 History has shown that to us.

00:12:35.000 And so, you know, all of the work that you asked about earlier, it all really comes down to that central principle.

00:12:41.000 Often those rights are seeded in states of varying crises.

00:12:46.000 Subsequent to 9-11, people were willing to accept a degree of intrusion into their privacy.

00:12:51.000 And of course, during the pandemic period, When most of us believed we were in the midst of a significant health crisis, people, to an astonishing degree, were willing to cede their rights when it came to staying in their home, near mandates or actual mandates in some professions of medications that previously I reckon people might have been a little more circumspect about.

00:13:17.000 Everywhere I went, I won't talk about the social situation in which we met in case it's not appropriate, but in that social environment, Person after person was telling me, you've got to talk to Aaron.

00:13:27.000 This guy's amazing.

00:13:28.000 This guy's amazing.

00:13:29.000 He understands how this situation works.

00:13:30.000 He understands what went on in the pandemic.

00:13:32.000 He understands the power of Big Pharma.

00:13:35.000 He knows how they're rigging the game.

00:13:36.000 He understands it and he's bought receipts.

00:13:38.000 Can you help us to understand how unique vaccines are and what happens to a product when it is granted legal indemnity?

00:13:50.000 Yeah, the impact of giving vaccines, if we're focusing on vaccines, the impact of giving vaccines Immunity for liability for injuries, meaning the companies that sell them, those participating in injecting them, has an incredible and extraordinary effect.

00:14:09.000 And I think it creates a market distortion that really puts vaccines in a unique box vis-a-vis any other product out there.

00:14:17.000 When you think about products on the market, whether they're planes, cars, drugs, chainsaws, knives, anything out there, how do they become safer?

00:14:28.000 Why are they...

00:14:30.000 Put to market.

00:14:32.000 Why does the company care that they're safe?

00:14:34.000 Why does the company properly test them before they go to market?

00:14:37.000 Why is the company watching safety after market?

00:14:39.000 Because at the end of the day, companies have an economic interest to make money.

00:14:46.000 That is what their fiduciary duty is to their shareholders.

00:14:50.000 When you see class action securities lawsuits and they're suing the board members and they're suing the CEO and they're suing the company, what's it about?

00:14:57.000 It's about the fact that the company didn't take appropriate actions to protect their assets, to make appropriate profits.

00:15:03.000 You know, they breached fiduciary duties.

00:15:05.000 That is what will drive corporations' conduct.

00:15:09.000 So when you take away the fundamental manner in which we assure products safety, economic interests of a company, Again, you get a very, very different result.

00:15:22.000 And you can see that clearly, for example, with the contrast between how drugs are clinical trials versus vaccines are clinical trials.

00:15:31.000 Drug manufacturers, they want to know before their drug goes to market whether that product is safe.

00:15:35.000 Because if it does, and it hurts a million people, well, they're going to end up upside down very quickly on making money on that drug.

00:15:43.000 With vaccines, They don't have to worry about it in most parts of the world, actually, and the United States in particular, because they can't be sued, for the most part, for injuries caused by vaccines.

00:15:55.000 And I'm not just talking about co-vaccines.

00:15:56.000 I'm talking about most vaccines, and I can explain to you how that happened, and I can even show you a chart that compares the trials between drugs and vaccines, if you'd like.

00:16:05.000 Yes, I would like to see that, yeah.

00:16:07.000 Okay, sure.

00:16:09.000 Well, I'll start with I guess I'll start with, you know, where did the immunity vaccines even come from?

00:16:16.000 This conversation is about to get very complicated and it's the sort of thing that will get censored on YouTube.

00:16:21.000 So if you want to see the rest of the conversation where we talk about the use of aborted fetuses, where we talk about autism and vaccines, where we talk about the degree of corruption that appears to be taking place between groups like the FDA and big pharma countries.

00:16:35.000 Countries?

00:16:36.000 Companies.

00:16:37.000 But, you know, sometimes I want to click the link in the description.

00:16:40.000 Join us on Rumble for this exclusive content.

00:16:43.000 You know, and a lot of people say to me, you know, there are conspiracies around vaccines and it's, you know, there's no, I don't think there's a, some kind of really, you don't have to go into some crazy thought patterns about vaccines to get to a dark place.

00:17:00.000 To understand the problem of vaccines, you just have to understand basic economics, in my opinion, okay?

00:17:05.000 So in the early 1980s in the United States and in most parts of the world, there were only three routine vaccines, DTP, MMR, and OPV. That's it.

00:17:15.000 That's all there was.

00:17:17.000 Seven total injections.

00:17:19.000 That was the sum total of our childhood schedule and of the adult schedule and of the pregnancy schedule, since there were no adult routine vaccines and there were no pregnancy vaccines back then.

00:17:30.000 And what was happening was every manufacturer of those three products either stopped making them or went out of business because of the injuries, because of the financial liability that was occurring from the injuries caused by those products.

00:17:44.000 Now, for any other product, when it hurts people, what does a company have to do?

00:17:49.000 Make a better, safer product.

00:17:51.000 Your plane falls out of the sky, make a better plane.

00:17:53.000 Your drug hurts people, make a better drug, right?

00:17:56.000 But in this instance, Congress in its wisdom decided, United States Congress decided, instead of forcing them to do what every other company has to do, instead of letting the economic interest do what it does, make a better product, instead it said, you know what?

00:18:13.000 You can keep selling your products that's harming kids.

00:18:15.000 We're just going to give you immunity so nobody can sue you.

00:18:17.000 And Congress passed the National Childhood Vaccines Act of 1986 that basically gave these manufacturers immunity, but not just for those three vaccines.

00:18:28.000 Gave them immunity to liability for virtually, for almost any other vaccine they made thereafter, including all childhood vaccines.

00:18:36.000 And with that, you see the explosion in the vaccine schedule.

00:18:40.000 Now, some might say, well, maybe that's a good thing.

00:18:43.000 But we don't want just more vaccines.

00:18:45.000 We want safe vaccines.

00:18:48.000 And I could show you the chart I referenced earlier.

00:18:52.000 I think I could pull it up if you'd like.

00:18:55.000 Yes, I'm pretty excited to see this chart now, as a matter of fact.

00:18:58.000 I've never been more excited to see it.

00:18:59.000 This is like the chart that Trump was about to pull up before he got shot in the ear.

00:19:04.000 I mean, the trepidation is killing me.

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00:20:22.000 So actually, this is a, I had the opportunity to testify before Congress actually on this exact topic.

00:20:30.000 It was specifically about COVID vaccines, but in doing that, we submitted a report.

00:20:34.000 Can you see my screen?

00:20:35.000 Yes, sir.

00:20:37.000 Yes, and here we go.

00:20:40.000 Pharmaceutical companies, I think, do not like that this is on the formal U.S. Congress website, but there it is.

00:20:45.000 And to this day, it remains uncontested.

00:20:48.000 Never gotten anybody's challenge or say anything in this document is false.

00:20:52.000 With that said, if you can, it's all cited to the government sources.

00:20:55.000 Well, let's just zoom in on this one.

00:21:01.000 If you look at this chart, I'm going to zoom right in.

00:21:06.000 These are the top five selling drugs that Pfizer has sold as of 2019, I believe, according to Money Inc.

00:21:17.000 I'm assuming it's correct.

00:21:19.000 And when you look at this list of the top five selling drugs, four of them are drugs.

00:21:25.000 One of them is a vaccine.

00:21:28.000 And which we're looking at is a summary of the clinical trial relied upon to license each of these products before they went to market.

00:21:34.000 So when you look at Enbrel, it had a safety follow-up in its clinical trial before it went to market for 6.6 years against a placebo-controlled group.

00:21:44.000 Eloquit, Lipitor, Lyrica.

00:21:46.000 Multi-year placebo-controlled trials.

00:21:48.000 Essentially what that means is you're comparing a group that got this product when it was experimental, before it was licensed, with a group that gets a placebo.

00:21:56.000 Over a multi-year period, and then you're comparing.

00:21:59.000 Are there any neurological differences, immunological differences, cardiovascular issues?

00:22:04.000 What is the difference in the safety profile between the placebo group and the vaccinated group?

00:22:09.000 That's how you determine safety.

00:22:11.000 And Pfizer wants to know that safety file before the products go to market because they don't want to end up upside down.

00:22:18.000 But then look at the one vaccine on this list, Prevnar.

00:22:22.000 Six months of safety review, far, far less.

00:22:24.000 A product given at two, four, and six months of age, by the way, and then at 12 months.

00:22:29.000 Now, what was the control?

00:22:31.000 It was a different vaccine, Prevnar 7. Now, you might say, hey, hey, maybe Prevnar 7 was properly licensed in a long-term placebo-controlled trial, but that's not the case.

00:22:42.000 It wasn't, and we'll go through that in a minute.

00:22:46.000 But keep in mind, I'll zoom out now, and we'll take a look now at the childhood vaccines.

00:22:52.000 And these are the vaccines given in the first six months in the United States, three times each.

00:22:57.000 And what you're looking at now is the safety follow-up period that safety was reviewed after injection to these products in the clinical trial and the control that was used.

00:23:07.000 Now, I... The first time I saw this, or if I saw this, I'd say no way.

00:23:15.000 It cannot be.

00:23:16.000 One, how could the companies do this before you're giving a product you're injecting into a baby?

00:23:21.000 Again, each product is injected three times each in the U.S. schedule by six months of age, okay?

00:23:30.000 So you would imagine these would be the most robustly studied products on safety you could imagine.

00:23:35.000 Healthy babies, millions of them.

00:23:37.000 You want to make sure you're not going to break society, right?

00:23:41.000 But yet this is what you see.

00:23:42.000 And you might say, well, what is driving this difference?

00:23:47.000 Why would Pfizer or these other companies do long-term versus short-term?

00:23:52.000 And I think I've beaten the answer to that question to death.

00:23:56.000 It's economic interest.

00:23:57.000 Pfizer is going to do the absolute minimum at Merck and Snofi to get their products to market so they can make money from them.

00:24:04.000 Now, why the FDA will let them get away with this, that's a different story.

00:24:08.000 We could talk about that later if you'd like.

00:24:10.000 But really, does it really matter?

00:24:12.000 That's the reality of it.

00:24:16.000 But seeing is believing.

00:24:18.000 Can I just contribute to this?

00:24:21.000 So for anyone that's listening to this, it's just this audio.

00:24:24.000 On one side, there's Pfizer's top five selling drugs of all time.

00:24:27.000 On the other side, vaccines in the first six months of their commercial life.

00:24:33.000 The drug side of it, the follow-up side is 6.6 years, 7.4 years, and the one vaccine is a six-month follow-up, so that starts to raise alarm bells.

00:24:44.000 And on the side of the vaccines, there's a Hep B inoculation offered by Merck, and I don't know what many of these terms mean.

00:24:51.000 I know that you, obviously, Aaron, know them inside out.

00:24:53.000 IPV and a drug called Hib by Merck, a DTAP, Prevnar 13 from Pfizer.

00:25:00.000 In each of these cases, it's a matter of days, or at most months, for the safety follow-up.

00:25:06.000 And I suppose what you're explaining to us, Aaron, is that once the companies were disincentivised through immunity to provide products that were safe, they recognised they had a whole new market that was free from punitive consequence, so they disproportionately created products in that area because they knew their margins would grow,

00:25:27.000 Because they had immunity, even in the event that these products were not successful, as well as near mandates for some of those products.

00:25:36.000 Have I understood it correctly?

00:25:39.000 You did.

00:25:40.000 You said it very well.

00:25:41.000 I mean, imagine it like this, Russell.

00:25:43.000 I came to her and I said, hey, Russell, I got business ideas for you.

00:25:45.000 And you're like, oh, really?

00:25:46.000 And I said, look...

00:25:47.000 I got this great idea.

00:25:48.000 We're going to sell this injection.

00:25:50.000 What's the injection?

00:25:51.000 It doesn't matter.

00:25:52.000 Don't worry.

00:25:53.000 Well, don't have to worry about safety.

00:25:54.000 No, the government said we can't be sued for it.

00:25:57.000 Okay?

00:25:58.000 You say, well, who's going to take that product?

00:26:00.000 You say, don't worry.

00:26:01.000 The government's going to mandate that millions of children take it every year.

00:26:05.000 Well, but who's going to promote it?

00:26:07.000 Don't worry.

00:26:07.000 The government's going to take our money and promote it for you to get a guaranteed market Guaranteed immunity, government promotion, I think you just summed it up as well, which is completely pharma saw incredible opportunity.

00:26:21.000 Your vaccine portfolio is very tight, but once it falls from multiple Portions of many of these pharma companies revenue stream and it's only growing because they understand they can sell this product risk-free with a guaranteed market and they push for mandates.

00:26:46.000 It's the best possible.

00:26:49.000 It's the best of all worlds for them.

00:26:52.000 So a sensible piece of legislation might be to end that immunity.

00:27:02.000 Yes, that would be extraordinarily sensible, which is just let these products operate in the same exact environment as every other product out there.

00:27:13.000 In the United States, a lot of times, guns have immunity liability for injuries, but even there, it's only the commission of a crime or a wrongful act.

00:27:24.000 You could still sue a gut manufacturer for design defect claims saying that they could have been made safer and various other claims.

00:27:31.000 You can never do those for a vaccine.

00:27:33.000 So yes, that would be adamantly sensible.

00:27:35.000 And think about it like this, okay?

00:27:38.000 Hepatitis B vaccine, the two given to babies were licensed in 1986 and 1989. It's now been, oh, I don't know, over 30 years of them telling us they're safe, assuring us they're safe.

00:27:51.000 Promising us they're safe.

00:27:52.000 But you're telling me 30 years later, you still can't lift the immunity liability?

00:27:56.000 You still are concerned about lawsuits?

00:28:00.000 If they're so safe, what are you concerned about?

00:28:02.000 There are drugs that treat just a small few number of people, right?

00:28:06.000 So they don't have a large market.

00:28:07.000 They can't make a lot of money off of them, but yet those can survive in an economic environment where you can still sue the manufacturer of those drug products.

00:28:15.000 Here, a product you give guaranteed millions of individuals every single year, you can't make a profit from unless you have immunity liability, that should be very concerning.

00:28:28.000 So yes, it would be very sensible, and you've got to ask yourself why they won't do it, despite, by the way, bill after bill being proposed over the years to repeal that immunity.

00:28:38.000 Yes, I mean, I suppose if the people with the most authority and power were the same people that one way or another, indirectly or directly, benefited from that immunity, then there would be no real incentive to end that immunity if their interests aligned significantly or sufficiently.

00:28:58.000 But that would amount to a degree of corruption, Aaron, that I find difficult to even contemplate.

00:29:05.000 Or some might view that and say, that's just good business.

00:29:08.000 They use the tools, they use the advantages they have to make as much money as they have.

00:29:15.000 And unfortunately, That is why the stopgap has to always be the ability for an individual to say no.

00:29:22.000 Hey, you know what?

00:29:23.000 I looked at the clinical trial data and I decided no.

00:29:26.000 Hey, you know what?

00:29:27.000 I looked at the post-licensure state data, no.

00:29:30.000 I looked at the ingredients, no.

00:29:32.000 You have to always say no.

00:29:33.000 And that is, you know, what we saw so acutely, especially during the last few years, is that right come into sharp tension with what the government wanted.

00:29:42.000 You know, Mandates, really, when you think about mandates, coercion, they're only really necessary when the government wants you to do something that is probably problematic.

00:29:54.000 Otherwise, persuade you on the merits.

00:29:55.000 I don't have to persuade you to, yep.

00:29:58.000 Well, yeah, that's staggering.

00:30:00.000 I mean, I suppose coming at this as I am from a media perspective, what I recall is that during the period where vaccinations were being encouraged, there was a near hysterical assurances that were we not to take these products, we were irresponsible socially.

00:30:17.000 That we would be causing more vulnerable people to get ill, even if you don't want to take it for yourself, a lot of the messaging said, you should be taking it for other vulnerable people.

00:30:26.000 That you are selfish, that if you didn't take the vaccine, you shouldn't be treated in a hospital.

00:30:30.000 All of this seems to have been forgotten.

00:30:33.000 And yet, when we found out, and the way I personally found out, was there was a conversation, I think, at the EU, where someone like a Dutch politician said, no, there were never any clinical trials for transmission.

00:30:43.000 No, it was a Pfizer executive just sort of blithely announced it.

00:30:47.000 It sort of seemed to just, I don't know, melt into the ethereal ongoing narrative that we should be incredibly forgiving when it comes to what went on in that pandemic period.

00:30:59.000 The whole stop the spread argument, Aaron, was there any basis for it at all?

00:31:05.000 The vaccine was never tested, clinical trial, for whether or not it stopped transmission.

00:31:10.000 And by the way, that's true for pretty much all vaccines.

00:31:13.000 The FDA will tell you as much.

00:31:16.000 And most vaccines don't stop transmission.

00:31:19.000 And the premise should have been that it doesn't stop transmission, frankly.

00:31:25.000 Until proven otherwise.

00:31:27.000 Because when you look at respiratory viruses and respiratory vaccines, they don't stop transmission pretty much.

00:31:34.000 And many of them don't stop transmission.

00:31:38.000 So when you look at some of the raw data regarding other vaccines, it shouldn't have been very surprising.

00:31:44.000 You're trying to inject something in the arm that often will create systemic immunity, immunity in your blood, IgG antibodies.

00:31:51.000 To try and create mucosal immunity, immunity in your lungs, IgA antibodies.

00:31:56.000 And that crossover typically does not happen in science.

00:32:01.000 So it should have started with, well, this is almost certainly not going to create immunity transmission.

00:32:07.000 And I could walk through some of the other vaccines as well.

00:32:11.000 You know, if I was one of your audience members, I might be saying, I still don't believe five days of safety review for the clinical trials.

00:32:19.000 And, you know, if you want, I could pull up the FDA website and I could show you one or two of those just so that folks at home are watching this.

00:32:27.000 Actually believe it, because I wouldn't believe it without seeing it personally.

00:32:30.000 So this is the FDA's own website, their own information, in which it's made explicitly clear that the follow-up for some of these vaccines is just five days.

00:32:41.000 So if they go and see someone, if they check in on someone five days later, and they're not coughing up blood, their project is declared a success.

00:32:52.000 Yes, that's close.

00:32:53.000 But the way to think about it is this.

00:32:55.000 When you want to license a product, you have to do a clinical trial.

00:32:59.000 And why are clinical trials so critically important?

00:33:02.000 They're critically important because it's the only time that's considered ethical with a vaccine to give one group the vaccine and one group nothing, a placebo, and then compare them.

00:33:12.000 Because once it's licensed, they say, oh, it's unethical to withhold the vaccine now from any child.

00:33:18.000 so the clinical trial is critically important to show the safety because after licensure all you can really do are what's known as retrospective epidemiological study okay and they will tell you the epidemiologists and the scientific community will tell you you can't prove causation with those studies you can just show correlation not causation how do you prove causation if i come to somebody comes to our firm and says hey You know, I believe this product caused this injury and I want to show causal connection.

00:33:47.000 I need typically clinical trial data.

00:33:50.000 So that's why the clinical trials are so critical.

00:33:52.000 And those safety review periods that we just looked at and the controls, okay, those are from the clinical trials.

00:33:59.000 When you want to license a product, the company that wants to license it conducts the clinical trial, not the FDA, not any European or UK health authorities.

00:34:09.000 The company conducts the trial.

00:34:10.000 It then submits that data to the regulatory authority.

00:34:14.000 They decide then whether to license it.

00:34:16.000 What are you submitting?

00:34:18.000 Clinical trial.

00:34:19.000 How do you evaluate whether a clinical trial is good?

00:34:21.000 Number one, how long did you review safety?

00:34:24.000 If you didn't look at it long enough, you got a baby.

00:34:26.000 You only followed in the clinical trial safety for five days.

00:34:30.000 Most immune issues might not come up for a few years of age, like asthma.

00:34:34.000 Developmental issues for numerous years of age.

00:34:36.000 Even like autoimmunity, think about it like this.

00:34:40.000 If I give you a vaccine and I say you're going to get immunity to a certain antigen in the product, that will often, they tell you, take many weeks or months.

00:34:47.000 So if you're going to have self-attacking antibodies, that will at least take weeks or months, not five days.

00:34:51.000 It's not going to show up in five days.

00:34:53.000 So how long?

00:34:54.000 That's criteria one.

00:34:56.000 Second, what are you comparing it against?

00:34:57.000 Because even if I review safety for a long time, but I don't have a placebo control group or another control group where I really understand the safety profile, how do I know it's safe?

00:35:05.000 What am I comparing it against?

00:35:07.000 The background rate?

00:35:08.000 It's really hard to do that.

00:35:10.000 And then finally, The third factor is you've got to have enough people in the trial.

00:35:14.000 Okay?

00:35:15.000 I hope I'm not boring your audience with this.

00:35:17.000 The third criteria is you've got to have enough people to what epidemiologists call it has to be well-powered.

00:35:23.000 Because if you don't have enough people, then you're not going to detect signals.

00:35:27.000 If you only have a few thousand kids, well, then you're only going to detect conditions that happen, you know, one in a thousand, one in a few hundred, meaning you're not going to catch rare things.

00:35:36.000 And when you're injecting this into millions of kids, And it requires giving often, let's say, 8,000, 9, 20, 30,000 vaccines to prevent one case of disease.

00:35:46.000 Well, you better be safer than that number.

00:35:48.000 It's called the number two treat.

00:35:50.000 So if the number two treat is 20,000 injections to stop one adverse event from the underlying disease, well, you better make sure the product's safer than one in 20,000 adverse events.

00:36:00.000 So you got to be properly powered for that.

00:36:02.000 Okay, with that said, what we're going to look at is what was the clinical trial What were the features of the clinical trial that the company relied upon, excuse me, that the FDA relied upon to license this product?

00:36:17.000 What did they accept?

00:36:18.000 And in that chart, I'll share my screen again.

00:36:22.000 So we're back to this chart again, right?

00:36:24.000 And that's what it means by safety follow-up.

00:36:27.000 So let's take a look at the first one on the list, hepatitis B vaccine.

00:36:31.000 That's the very first licensed childhood vaccine.

00:36:34.000 And if we go to Google, And we go to FDA licensed vaccines.

00:36:38.000 So here we are.

00:36:40.000 We're now going to click on the first link, vaccines licensed for use in the United States.

00:36:44.000 On this webpage is every single vaccine is licensed for use in the United States.

00:36:48.000 These are not very dissimilar for the ones in Europe as well.

00:36:52.000 I understand sometimes they have different brand names and so forth.

00:36:55.000 And if we scroll down, we will find there are four hepatitis B vaccines licensed in the United States.

00:37:02.000 Okay?

00:37:02.000 Only two of these are licensed for babies.

00:37:04.000 The other two are only for adults.

00:37:06.000 The first one, Recombevax EHB, is the first, the one that was licensed.

00:37:10.000 It was licensed actually in 1986. And when we pull up the package insert, and I don't know what it's like in the UK or in other parts of the world, but in the United States, When you get a drug, there's usually a piece of paper in the box.

00:37:24.000 Yes.

00:37:24.000 When you open it, it becomes very big.

00:37:26.000 Huge, right?

00:37:27.000 Yeah, really easy to read.

00:37:30.000 They make it entertaining.

00:37:31.000 There's cartoon characters.

00:37:32.000 It's a very appealing document.

00:37:34.000 Definitely getting different.

00:37:35.000 It must be very different than where you are than the ones we have, but those definitely sound more exciting.

00:37:40.000 But under federal regulations, section 6.1, I'll scroll down, require...

00:37:48.000 That the manufacturer summarized the clinical trial relied upon to license that product vis-a-vis safety.

00:37:57.000 Perfect.

00:37:57.000 So there's a simple way to look at the clinical trial.

00:38:00.000 I'm about to inject this into my baby, okay?

00:38:03.000 Now, before I go and buy a car, I kick the tires, ask a few questions before I, you know, I do my homework, right?

00:38:09.000 Before you buy any product, even you go to Amazon, you're going to buy, like, a camera.

00:38:13.000 You're going to do some research.

00:38:15.000 Before you inject something into your baby, if you want to start by looking at what was the safety?

00:38:21.000 How did they determine safety?

00:38:22.000 This is probably the place to start, I would say.

00:38:24.000 Yes.

00:38:24.000 And we'll scroll down to section 6.1.

00:38:27.000 And right here, we will see this is all of the text of section 6.1.

00:38:31.000 These were the reactions reported in the clinical trial.

00:38:35.000 Section 6.2 is the post-marketing safety.

00:38:38.000 So this sentence summarizes the clinical trial relied upon to license this product 434 doses were administered to 147 infants and children up to 10 years of age who were monitored for 5 days after each dose.

00:38:58.000 So that The product's been issued after it's only been given to 147 kids, and they've done less than 500 doses, and their follow-up period is five days.

00:39:09.000 That's not even really a clinical trial.

00:39:11.000 I reckon I could get together a trial of that standard from previous partners.

00:39:16.000 I think you're being kind.

00:39:19.000 That's incredible.

00:39:21.000 Now, I just want to remind everybody, we're on the FDA website.

00:39:25.000 Last I checked, not an anti-vaxxer organization, I think.

00:39:29.000 And this is a FDA-approved document.

00:39:32.000 This is Merck's summation of it.

00:39:34.000 And I will tell you, the first time I saw this, I actually said, it can't be.

00:39:38.000 It cannot be that a product that you're going to inject into millions of babies is licensed based on five days of safety monitoring after injection, that there's got to be more.

00:39:47.000 So we actually submitted something called a Freedom of Information Act request, a FOIA request.

00:39:52.000 That's a law in the United States that allows us to get documents from the federal government here.

00:39:57.000 And I asked, we asked on behalf of our client, the informed consent action network ICANN, we asked for all of the clinical trial reports that were submitted to license, thinking there's got to be more in there.

00:40:07.000 And we got copies of all of them.

00:40:09.000 And they're on the ICANN website.

00:40:10.000 Anybody can go see them.

00:40:12.000 And it's five days.

00:40:13.000 And in fact, we then even petitioned the FDA and the formal docketing system that Merck and Pfizer and companies used to license or to modify licensures to say, hey, you know, Congress said you should only license products that are shown to be safe.

00:40:28.000 Now, we can debate whether the safety review period, how many kids need to be, and what the control should be, right?

00:40:34.000 We can debate those things maybe in the margins.

00:40:36.000 Should it be 100,000 kids, 50,000 kids?

00:40:39.000 Should it be five years, three years, but five days with 147 kids?

00:40:43.000 And what was the control?

00:40:44.000 Right.

00:40:45.000 There's none listed.

00:40:46.000 This is useless.

00:40:47.000 It's utterly and completely used to determining safety.

00:40:51.000 So the company, they did this and Merck got this on the market with the absolute minimal safety data that they could obtain.

00:41:00.000 And if somebody out there will say to you, well, Maybe they already knew it was safe because, and these are the arguments I often hear in return.

00:41:06.000 Well, they knew it was safe because there was probably other hep B vaccines.

00:41:10.000 This is the very first recombinant DNA technology vaccine in the universe.

00:41:14.000 Just like the very first mRNA vaccine was COVID, the very first recombinant DNA technology vaccine ever was this hepatitis B vaccine in the United States.

00:41:24.000 And there was, at that point, There had been a prior hep B vaccine made actually with literally human blood.

00:41:31.000 Nobody wanted to take it.

00:41:32.000 So that went away.

00:41:33.000 So there's no precedent, safety profile.

00:41:38.000 The other argument I often hear is, yeah, well, but they probably really tested it in adults well.

00:41:43.000 Well, let's just scroll down just right to this sentence and we could see how they tested it in adults.

00:41:50.000 1,200 people, so better a little bit, but still completely underpowered.

00:41:55.000 And again, only five things monitoring.

00:41:58.000 And again, you can see the clinical trial reports.

00:42:00.000 So, you know, I've deposed vaccinologists, immunologists, pediatricians, and, you know, I've asked about this a million times.

00:42:09.000 I've waited for, there is no response to this.

00:42:12.000 There's no good response to this.

00:42:14.000 If you're looking, if you think there's something else, send it to me.

00:42:18.000 I'd love to see it because that's what there is in terms of what was lied upon to license this product.

00:42:23.000 Aaron, these trials are so sort of negligibly small that it can hardly really be referred to as science.

00:42:31.000 It's almost like a bureaucratic exercise in order to achieve license.

00:42:37.000 I remember reading during the pandemic period that booster shots were being recommended after they'd been trialed on like five mice.

00:42:45.000 And I think what What concerns me most of all is when my intuitive sense turns out to be correct.

00:42:53.000 For example, at the beginning of the pandemic, I remember thinking, how can these products have been effectively trialed?

00:42:59.000 Because there hasn't been a trial period sufficient to know how these are going to impact people in a year or in five years.

00:43:06.000 And also, what Pregnant women are going to put themselves forward for clinical trials and what parents are going to allow their children to be clinically trialled. 0.78

00:43:15.000 These were the kind of things that just occurred to me.

00:43:17.000 So to see it backed up and to see it having been sieved through your legal mind as scrutiny and that my general ruminations were somewhat correct suggests that there's such a degree of institutional corruption that the science that they always use to verify their mandates, their actions, their policies, their profits is actually a subset of commercial imperatives and incentives that are themselves so corrupt

00:43:43.000 it might as well be a religion and at that a fallen and broken religion rather than science as we sort of conversationally understand it empiricism, clinical trial, fact The claims made about vaccines often are dogma, religious beliefs I mean, the idea that vaccines are the most robustly trialed products on the market is just simply false.

00:44:12.000 And again, don't take my word for it.

00:44:14.000 Go to the FDA website.

00:44:15.000 We just did it for the hepatitis B vaccine.

00:44:18.000 Pull it up for every single other childhood vaccine.

00:44:21.000 Look at section 6.1.

00:44:22.000 They also have the underlying clinical trial reports for a lot of them.

00:44:25.000 Take a look at it.

00:44:27.000 I will tell you, I can't claim to have any genius superpowers as a person or a lawyer to have done this.

00:44:34.000 I literally just went to Google, and I searched FDA licensed vaccines, and you can pull them up.

00:44:40.000 And it's right there for the taking, but it's true.

00:44:42.000 Most people will just...

00:44:44.000 It's almost like an incantation.

00:44:46.000 Safe and effective.

00:44:47.000 Safe and effective.

00:44:48.000 The most robustly studied products in the market.

00:44:51.000 The most safely studied.

00:44:52.000 They're safety reviewed for years.

00:44:54.000 And the crazy part is this.

00:44:55.000 We just looked at the clinical trials, right?

00:44:57.000 And so when I do this, and we could go through all the vaccines just like this, and it probably gets worse and worse.

00:45:04.000 You remember that Prevnar vaccine we looked at that had six months of safety review?

00:45:08.000 So you're like, hey, all right, at least we got six months.

00:45:10.000 So what would that show?

00:45:13.000 You want to take a look at that one?

00:45:14.000 It's pretty interesting if you want me to open it up a second.

00:45:18.000 Here, I'll share my screen one more time, and I'll pop it up on the screen, and we can take a look at it.

00:45:24.000 I think it's very telling.

00:45:28.000 Here is Prevnar 13, okay?

00:45:31.000 This is the package insert, all right?

00:45:34.000 And we are now in section 6.1.

00:45:37.000 And here you have the section about serious adverse events.

00:45:40.000 So this is what you really want to focus on, right?

00:45:42.000 Because serious adverse events means something very serious.

00:45:45.000 It's a defined term by the FDA. We can even go to the FDA website again, you know, and we can do serious adverse events, FDA. And right here, you could see it means death, life-threatening, hospitalization, disability, congenital abnormality, required interventions to prevent permanent impairment, and then other serious, which effectively has to have one or the other.

00:46:08.000 So serious adverse event is a very serious condition.

00:46:11.000 So let's go back to Prevnar 13. Now, in this clinical trial, this is one of the top five selling Pfizer products, right?

00:46:18.000 You've got six months of safety review, finally.

00:46:20.000 So maybe we'll see what that shows.

00:46:25.000 And here, I'm going to highlight this sentence.

00:46:27.000 And here's what they found.

00:46:28.000 And remember, the kids in this trial, the babies and infants and toddlers, were healthy.

00:46:34.000 They don't let really sick kids in.

00:46:36.000 So you have completely, typically healthy children.

00:46:40.000 Healthy?

00:46:41.000 Get the product trapped for six months.

00:46:43.000 And here's what they found.

00:46:45.000 Serious adverse events reported following vaccination in infants and toddlers occurred in 8.2%, that's in a six-month period, among Prevnar 13 recipients, and 7.2% among Prevnar, that's Prevnar 7 recipients.

00:46:59.000 Now, from the perspective of just safety, if I'm a parent, I might go, oh my goodness, that is highly concerning.

00:47:06.000 But from the perspective of the FDA, as long as the experimental group and the control group have a similar rate, That's deemed safe because they're comparing it to quote-unquote the standard of care, right?

00:47:20.000 So you might say, well, maybe this is just a fluke, this super high rate of adverse events in totally healthy infants and toddlers, right?

00:47:28.000 Maybe we know for sure Prevnar 7 is safe because that had a long-term placebo-controlled trial, right?

00:47:34.000 And before we flip there, let's just read this one sentence.

00:47:37.000 It's one of my favorite sentences.

00:47:39.000 It says, the longer reporting period, meaning six months, which I normally never do vaccine trials, may have resulted in serious adverse events being reported in a higher percentage of subjects than for other vaccines.

00:47:50.000 Oh, wait a second.

00:47:52.000 We finally looked for six months instead of a few days and a few weeks, and we found a super high rate.

00:47:57.000 So what's our excuse for the high rate?

00:47:59.000 Oh, my God.

00:48:00.000 You can't make stuff up.

00:48:02.000 And here's another piece I can never make up.

00:48:04.000 And honestly, if I'd have thought of the most nefarious things I could say about vaccines, I would never say it had to use license on five days because I thought it was totally nuts.

00:48:13.000 And I'm going to show you another thing that I think is totally nuts.

00:48:17.000 I'm going to open up the package insert for Prevnar 7. Remember this product that had the 7.2% adverse event rate?

00:48:26.000 Yes.

00:48:27.000 So you might hope that here's the package insert for that product.

00:48:31.000 So safety was reviewed in this one, depending on what they looked at for days or maybe weeks.

00:48:35.000 So they didn't have six months.

00:48:37.000 And they were comparing Prevnar with a control.

00:48:40.000 Well, you hope the control would be what?

00:48:43.000 Because there's no other product on the market that's a seven-valent meningococcal vaccine in the U.S. So you should have compared against placebo.

00:48:51.000 But you see the little cross right there?

00:48:54.000 Yes.

00:48:55.000 Let's go down right here and let's see what the control was.

00:48:59.000 Can you see that?

00:49:01.000 Yes.

00:49:02.000 Would you like to do the honor, sir?

00:49:04.000 Investigational, mening...

00:49:05.000 I can't read that word.

00:49:08.000 Mening...

00:49:08.000 Meningococcal.

00:49:10.000 Group C conjugate vaccine, MNCC. What does that mean?

00:49:14.000 Do you know what investigational means?

00:49:16.000 It means unlicensed.

00:49:17.000 Oh.

00:49:19.000 That was the control.

00:49:20.000 The control was another unlicensed product.

00:49:24.000 So they had a clinical trial for this, for Prevnar 7, That wasn't six months.

00:49:30.000 It was far shorter.

00:49:32.000 And they didn't compare it against a placebo, even though there was no 7-valium angiococcal vaccine that I'm aware of that was on the market license in the US. So there's no standard of care.

00:49:40.000 They should use a placebo. 0.98

00:49:41.000 What do they use?

00:49:42.000 Another unlicensed vaccine!

00:49:47.000 Again, I'm laughing, but it's definitely serious too.

00:49:51.000 And I say it because It really goes back to your point about religion, and it's a long way to answer your question, I know, but yes, there is what is said about these products, what believed about these products, and then there's this reality.

00:50:06.000 Again, all on the FDA website.

00:50:08.000 You can look at it yourself.

00:50:10.000 I'm not trying to pick on these products.

00:50:12.000 That's just the reality about the clinical trials, and we've just talked about Pre-licensure safety, right?

00:50:20.000 By the way, there's even worse examples than this that we could go through, but I'll leave it alone on that.

00:50:25.000 And then there's the claim about post-licensure safety, how there's this massive body of science that assures it's safe.

00:50:33.000 And I could tell you that we have 40 people in my law firm that do almost exclusively vaccine work.

00:50:39.000 We have, I think, the largest vaccine practice in the world that doesn't represent pharmaceutical companies.

00:50:44.000 And you can bring a claim for vaccine injury in America and in other countries, but you can't sue the manufacturer.

00:50:50.000 In America, you sue the secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services.

00:50:53.000 You sue the federal health authorities that tell you it's safe.

00:50:56.000 There's no right to get...

00:50:58.000 You can't subpoena documents.

00:50:59.000 You can't depose the companies.

00:51:02.000 This program won't let you do it.

00:51:04.000 But you can bring a claim.

00:51:06.000 And so we get calls all the time.

00:51:08.000 From parents who want to, you know, say, hey, my child had this reaction or that reaction to a vaccine, you know, went in totally healthy, started seizing, had a grand mal seizure within 10 minutes, mostly emergency room, ended up with all this sequel.

00:51:24.000 And so when we go in, I don't have a PhD after my name.

00:51:28.000 I don't have an MD. I don't have any fancy medical title.

00:51:32.000 So when I go to court or any of the attorneys in my firm go to court, We have to prove it with evidence.

00:51:37.000 We don't get to say, trust me, I'm a doctor.

00:51:40.000 Trust me, I'm a PhD.

00:51:41.000 We actually have to prove the claims.

00:51:43.000 So we want good clinical trial data, and we want good post-licensure safety data.

00:51:50.000 And so we are very familiar with the post-licensure safety studies, safety systems, and the notion that there's some robust body of Of studies out there, just go to, like Hep B, is...

00:52:07.000 Is, and I'll be kind, nonsensical.

00:52:09.000 And all one needs to do is go to pubmed.gov, search for hep B vaccine.

00:52:14.000 Just go read all the studies.

00:52:15.000 It won't take you long about hep B vaccine safety.

00:52:18.000 And also, you can go to ICANN's website, and you can see that we had an exchange with HHS about when we went back and forth about the safety of all these vaccines.

00:52:27.000 And you could see what they had in response to all of this.

00:52:30.000 It's fabulous.

00:52:31.000 They are, as you said, religious beliefs.

00:52:33.000 It's staggering.

00:52:33.000 Long answer, sorry.

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00:53:50.000 There it is.

00:53:50.000 It's staggering that they were allowed to use as a control group another unlicensed drug.

00:53:57.000 If you were looking for a babysitter for your preteen son, you wouldn't accept, well, we compared him to when Jeffrey Dahmer looked after some teenagers and they were about level.

00:54:10.000 That would not be a good endorsement.

00:54:12.000 And to see that what we're presented with, as you say, is this is a robust body of evidence, shows you that it's kind of gangsterism.

00:54:21.000 But the NIH should be setting up trials a little better, like the conditions for trials aren't good enough.

00:54:28.000 The grant in these firms immunity is creating, as you said at the very beginning, a warped marketplace with economic incentives that don't even make sense within the context of free market capitalism, which is what we are led to believe is providing the safety checks.

00:54:44.000 i.e.

00:54:44.000 if the product is not successful, the marketplace will select against products that kill or injure their children, particularly when you showed us what is meant by, you know, severe adverse injuries, death, congenital defects, some of the most You know, we're being light about it because that's the way we're communicating, but at the end of each one of these tendrils is devastation across families.

00:55:07.000 It makes me wonder, Aaron, even if something like the oft-repeated mantra, a near taboo, of saying that autism may be connected to vaccines, which people, we're told the same thing.

00:55:20.000 There is no scientific evidence to suggest that That there is any connection between autism or the increase in kids with autism, Asperger's, ADHD, OCD, ADHD, all of these things, and vaccines.

00:55:34.000 Is it true, even with that sacred cow of the religion of vaccines, that there is no scientific evidence, or perhaps I should put it this way, is there scientific evidence to suggest that there is no causal link? 0.57

00:55:54.000 I think the claim that vaccines do not cause autism, which is a claim that you will hear health authorities repeat over and over again, again like a mantra, is a great litmus test.

00:56:05.000 Or whether they've really studied all the other claimed injuries, right?

00:56:08.000 There's probably over a hundred serious adverse events from vaccines that parents routinely claim.

00:56:15.000 Many of them are immune or immune-mediated neurological disorders, meaning your immune system's gone, something's gone wrong, or it has attacked your nervous system.

00:56:23.000 There are, for example, many accepted issues from vaccines like transverse myelitis, Gambray syndrome, which are immune system attacking your nerves, but there in your extremities, you can physically see the outcome.

00:56:32.000 You can end up being paralyzed.

00:56:36.000 No reason that vaccines can't also attack your nerves in your brain and other parts of your body.

00:56:44.000 And if you look at the package inserts, you look at the actual data, they often report encephalopathy and encephalitis.

00:56:50.000 I'm getting ahead of myself.

00:56:51.000 The point is this, is that if they say vaccines do not cause autism, and it's really true that they haven't really studied it, then imagine the state of the science.

00:57:02.000 For all the other hundred serious issues.

00:57:05.000 And, you know, and I can tell you that I have been, our firm, and including on behalf of our client ICANN, we have been beating at public health authorities for seven years now, demanding the studies that show that the vaccines given in the first six months of life do not cause autism.

00:57:23.000 Why are we doing that?

00:57:25.000 We're doing that because when you look at parental surveys of parents who have kids with autism, That's something in the order of 40 to 70% of them, despite the fact that they're constantly being gaslit by health authorities.

00:57:37.000 Vaccines do not cause their child's autism.

00:57:39.000 They did not, did not, did not.

00:57:40.000 They still say that vaccines cause their child's autism, still to this day.

00:57:45.000 And what vaccines do they point to?

00:57:47.000 They typically point to the vaccines that we just actually looked at in that chart, right?

00:57:52.000 The 15 injections in the first six months of life.

00:57:55.000 And they will often sometimes point to also the MMR vaccine, which is not given any earlier than one year of life, okay?

00:58:02.000 And so you would imagine, given that autism can be diagnosed before one year of age, before MMR vaccine is even given, the parents are saying that these are the vaccines that are causing their autism, the Hep B vaccine, the meningococcal vaccine, and so forth.

00:58:16.000 That they would have study after study after study showing that those vaccines do not cause autism, right?

00:58:22.000 And I could tell you that those studies really don't exist.

00:58:30.000 And if I could, I'll lay the groundwork on this in the following way.

00:58:35.000 And it's not because nobody's asked the question for a very long time.

00:58:38.000 And by the way, it had nothing to do with Wakefield in the late 90s.

00:58:42.000 In 1986, When the National Childhood Injury Act was passed, Vaccine Injury Act was passed, it listed the most commonly claimed injuries, presumably, from vaccination at that time.

00:58:54.000 And it asked the Secretary of Health and Human Services, our federal authorities here, to study all the existing literature on whether or not the pertussis vaccine, and then it was DTP, and it was MMR, the two primary vaccines, caused those conditions.

00:59:11.000 And one of those conditions it asked was whether the pertussis vaccine causes autism.

00:59:16.000 So as early as 1986, parents were claiming that vaccines were causing autism at such a rate that they had it in the law.

00:59:24.000 I can even pull up the statute if you'd like to see it.

00:59:27.000 And, you know, we can look at it.

00:59:29.000 Yeah, I like this device.

00:59:30.000 I like it.

00:59:31.000 It's good when you pull that stuff up.

00:59:32.000 Remember to come back to your face though, Aaron, because we need that too.

00:59:36.000 Yes, sir.

00:59:37.000 So, actually, you know, there's also this great montage that shows them all claiming that vaccines don't cause autism.

00:59:43.000 You want to play that while I look for the law one second? 0.99

00:59:46.000 Yeah, yeah, that's fantastic.

00:59:48.000 Let's have a look at a montage where various people claim that there is no causal link between autism and vaccines.

00:59:55.000 A reassuring montage.

00:59:58.000 We're not sure as a scientific community what causes autism, but we know that vaccines do not.

01:00:03.000 Vaccines are really the one thing we have looked at as causing autism.

01:00:08.000 We know that vaccines don't cause autism.

01:00:11.000 The science is clear.

01:00:12.000 Vaccines don't cause autism.

01:00:14.000 I do not deny in any way that we need to do more about autism, but it has nothing to do with vaccines.

01:00:20.000 Let me be clear, vaccines do not cause autism.

01:00:24.000 Vaccines don't cause autism.

01:00:26.000 Absolutely sure.

01:00:27.000 Absolutely sure.

01:00:29.000 Russell, repeat after me.

01:00:30.000 Vaccines do not cause autism.

01:00:32.000 There's no way they can.

01:00:34.000 I've just seen people in so many different outfits.

01:00:37.000 I saw a general.

01:00:38.000 I saw a doctor in scrubs.

01:00:39.000 I've seen people of every pigment saying that vaccines don't cause autism.

01:00:44.000 I'm convinced.

01:00:46.000 And we saw the CDC webpage that literally says vaccines do not cause autism.

01:00:52.000 Well here we are.

01:00:53.000 This is the 1986 act.

01:00:55.000 This is the law passed in the U.S. that gave the pharma companies immunity.

01:00:59.000 And we can see right here in this section called Review of Pertussis Vaccines and Related Illnesses and Conditions.

01:01:05.000 And it says, no later than three years after the effective date of this title, the Secretary of Health and Human Services should complete a review of all relevant medical and scientific information, including a whole long list of stuff, on the nature, circumstance, and extent of the relationship, if any, between vaccines containing Pertussis and the following illnesses and conditions.

01:01:24.000 And it lists...

01:01:26.000 Autism.

01:01:27.000 1986. Parents claim to test this vaccine caused autism.

01:01:32.000 So you would think that they would then study it.

01:01:37.000 Well, here is the Institute of Medicine.

01:01:39.000 I'll pull it right up on my screen.

01:01:41.000 Okay?

01:01:42.000 This is the HHS. Our federal authorities commissioned what was then known as the Institute of Medicine, what is now known as the National Academy of Medicine in America.

01:01:53.000 Supposed to be a prestigious group of scientists.

01:01:57.000 And look at this question.

01:01:59.000 Well, take a look at what they found.

01:02:01.000 I'll scroll down.

01:02:02.000 This is a chart.

01:02:03.000 And in this chart, okay, this is the report from 1991 that the Institute of Medicine issued looking at the question of pertussis vaccine and autism.

01:02:12.000 And you can see on the autism row that there's no checks.

01:02:16.000 There's no X's, excuse me, meaning they couldn't find any category of evidence to answer the question.

01:02:22.000 There were no human experiments.

01:02:23.000 There were no animal experiments.

01:02:25.000 There were no case control studies.

01:02:27.000 There was nothing.

01:02:27.000 So here we are in 1991, and they say, well, we don't have any evidence.

01:02:33.000 This is their summary table.

01:02:36.000 And for autism, they said there's no evidence bearing on a causal relationship.

01:02:41.000 There's no studies.

01:02:42.000 They don't know.

01:02:42.000 Fine.

01:02:43.000 Early days, Russell.

01:02:44.000 It's only 1991. Give them a break.

01:02:46.000 Let's not give them too hard of a time yet, okay?

01:02:48.000 It's 1991. Fine.

01:02:50.000 They haven't done it yet.

01:02:51.000 Crazy days.

01:02:52.000 Give them a chance.

01:02:52.000 It's the 90s.

01:02:53.000 Friends has just come out.

01:02:54.000 We've got a lot to think about.

01:02:57.000 You know, they did find evidence that showed that, for example, some vaccines can cause acute arthritis or chronic arthritis.

01:03:03.000 They said the evidence shows it can't cause these, but for autism, we have no idea.

01:03:06.000 All right.

01:03:07.000 Well, let's fast forward then to 2012, 2012, 20 years later, okay, HHS and CDC, excuse me, the CDC, And the agency in our federal government that administers the vaccine program commissioned the Institute of Medicine to again look at what they said were the 158 most commonly claimed injuries from vaccines.

01:03:29.000 And one of the injuries they asked them to look at was again whether autism is caused by Pertussis vaccine and this time also diphtheria and tetanus vaccine.

01:03:38.000 So it's been 20 years!

01:03:40.000 20 years later, okay?

01:03:42.000 It's still one of the most widely claimed injuries from vaccines.

01:03:45.000 Not according to me.

01:03:46.000 According to the CDC in the United States of America.

01:03:49.000 They paid the Institute of Medicine a boatload of money to look at this.

01:03:53.000 And you know why they did this, by the way?

01:03:55.000 They wanted to use this report to claim that vaccines don't cause all these various issues.

01:03:59.000 Okay?

01:04:01.000 Well, the Institute of Medicine convened a panel of 20-something specialists in every discipline.

01:04:06.000 And here's what they found.

01:04:08.000 They reviewed all the epidemiological evidence.

01:04:10.000 You know what they found?

01:04:11.000 One study, Geyer and Geyer.

01:04:13.000 You know what that study showed?

01:04:15.000 It showed an actual correlation between DTaP vaccine and autism.

01:04:19.000 But the Institute of Medicine threw it out because they said, oh, that's based on VAERS data.

01:04:24.000 That's not reliable. 0.95

01:04:25.000 Garbage. 0.99

01:04:26.000 Fine. 0.99

01:04:27.000 What other study did they find?

01:04:28.000 Zero.

01:04:29.000 Then they looked at the mechanistic evidence.

01:04:31.000 Did they find any?

01:04:32.000 No.

01:04:32.000 So what did they conclude?

01:04:34.000 The evidence is inadequate to accept or reject.

01:04:38.000 Or reject.

01:04:39.000 It calls a relation between diphtherotoxic, hypnistoxic, and they tell you what pertussis can do with any vaccines and autism.

01:04:44.000 Okay?

01:04:45.000 So here we are 20 years later.

01:04:46.000 Now you can get upset a little bit.

01:04:47.000 So we're 20 years later, and they still haven't done the study.

01:04:50.000 They still haven't looked at whether pertussis vaccine causes autism, despite the fact it's the most commonly claimed.

01:04:56.000 Now, I know somebody out there is going to say, but you can't prove a negative.

01:05:01.000 Well, in the same report, they looked at whether MMR vaccine causes autism.

01:05:06.000 And they threw out all the studies except for, and despite the fact that those studies are not really useful because they compare getting like 16 vaccines with 17 vaccines, it's like if I shoot you 16 times and I shoot you 17 times and I say, hey, look, no difference.

01:05:18.000 You died both times.

01:05:19.000 You know, it's not really meaningful.

01:05:22.000 It did conclude MMR vaccine doesn't cause autism.

01:05:26.000 Fine.

01:05:26.000 It shows you can conclude it.

01:05:27.000 You can do studies, right?

01:05:29.000 They didn't do it for pertussis.

01:05:30.000 And so we said, fine.

01:05:32.000 Maybe the Institute of Medicine doesn't have the study.

01:05:36.000 So I then had an opportunity to depose the world's leading vaccinologist, Stanley Blockett, in 2018. And I asked him about this exact finding.

01:05:44.000 Do you want to see it?

01:05:45.000 Yeah.

01:05:45.000 One minute.

01:05:46.000 Yeah, let's see it, man.

01:05:47.000 All right.

01:05:48.000 Let's see it.

01:05:49.000 Okay.

01:05:50.000 I've never had a guest that's before talked me through the issues, showed me studies, showed me the FDA's own website, showed me CDC information, clinical trials, inserts from packs of medications, depositions, because I suppose the whole argument that we, the public, and I include myself in that demographic...

01:06:13.000 Generally, we're kind of trying to argue back with anecdotes and intuition and feelings.

01:06:19.000 Oh, my kid was never the same.

01:06:21.000 It doesn't seem right giving a baby all these injections.

01:06:23.000 How have you clinically trialled it?

01:06:25.000 You've not had enough time.

01:06:27.000 But you walk us through it, making it clear that the word science is being used like a weapon instead of what it is, a kind of conduit for truth.

01:06:39.000 So this is a video of Dr. Stanley Plotkin, who is literally the world's leading vaccinologist.

01:06:47.000 The medical text on vaccines is called Plotkin's Vaccines, and this is me asking him about that 2012 IMM report with regards to autism and pertussis vaccine.

01:06:57.000 This is an excerpt from the IOM's report, right?

01:07:02.000 Yes.

01:07:03.000 Can you read the causality conclusion with regard to whether DTaP and TDaP cause autism?

01:07:08.000 The evidence is inadequate to accept or reject a causal relationship between diphtheria toxoid, tetanus toxoid, or acellular pertussis containing vaccine and autism.

01:07:20.000 If you don't know whether DTaP or TDaP cause autism, Shouldn't you wait until you do know, until you have the science to support it, to then say that vaccines do not cause autism?

01:07:40.000 Do I wait?

01:07:42.000 No, I do not wait, because I have to take into account the health of the child.

01:07:52.000 And so for that reason, you're okay with telling the parent that DTAP, TDAP does not cause autism, even though the science isn't there yet to support that claim.

01:08:07.000 Absolutely.

01:08:09.000 So there you have it.

01:08:10.000 From the mouth of the world's leading vaccinologist, He's going to tell you vaccines don't cause autism, even without the science.

01:08:18.000 And if you watch that deposition, which went for eight hours, where I deposed him on all these issues, what you'll see is that, and this is one of the lures of vaccinology, is that as long as they don't study it, as long as there's no study that shows it does or doesn't, like they just don't look at it, they'll say the vaccines don't cause it, even without any data.

01:08:39.000 And that is true.

01:08:41.000 Remember that Institute of Medicine report I told you, they looked at 158 conditions.

01:08:45.000 Well, for over 130 of them, they said, you guys haven't done the science, so we can't give you a causality conclusion.

01:08:51.000 But when you ask vaccinologists about those 130, they'll tell you, oh, vaccines don't cause them, even though there's no study science to support it doesn't.

01:08:58.000 And that's true here with autism.

01:09:00.000 Fine.

01:09:00.000 Okay.

01:09:02.000 2018, Dr. Stanley Plotkin in this deposition, again confirming There's no studies, right?

01:09:09.000 He's got none.

01:09:10.000 He's okay with, basically, I mean, my kids might call that lying.

01:09:14.000 I don't want to use such a strong term, but let's just say he's not being forthright with these parents if they ask him.

01:09:20.000 We then submitted a Freedom of Information Act request to the CDC. We said, well, maybe the CDC has studies, even though the medicine couldn't find them.

01:09:29.000 Maybe the CDC has these studies.

01:09:31.000 So what we did is we submitted a request.

01:09:34.000 And what we said is, can you give us the studies that show that DTaP vaccines don't cause autism?

01:09:38.000 The studies that show that hep B vaccines don't cause autism, that IPV. We did it for all of the five vaccines given three times in the first six months of life.

01:09:44.000 And we asked for the studies that show cumulatively that they don't cause autism.

01:09:48.000 They should have these available.

01:09:49.000 The website for the CDC says vaccines don't cause autism.

01:09:54.000 They didn't give them.

01:09:55.000 We finally had to sue them.

01:09:57.000 I sued them in federal court on behalf of our clients.

01:10:00.000 And after, you know, going back and forth with the Department of Justice, which represents the CDC, they finally capitulated, and they finally agreed to provide a list of studies.

01:10:10.000 And I'll pull it up on my screen.

01:10:12.000 I'll show you the court order that has it.

01:10:14.000 I'll do this again.

01:10:17.000 And here it is.

01:10:20.000 So here are the, here's, this is a federal court order in the United States, okay?

01:10:26.000 United States District Court, Southern District of New York.

01:10:30.000 Lawsuit was brought by the Institute for Autism Science and Informative Action Network against the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, okay?

01:10:36.000 It's a federal lawsuit.

01:10:38.000 And you could see in the, and this is basically the quote-unquote, you could call it a settlement, but it's signed by the judge, so it's an order of the court.

01:10:48.000 And in it, it summarizes the FOIA requests that were at issue in the lawsuits, because here's what I asked for, what I just described to you, right?

01:10:55.000 All the studies that show that DTAP does not cause autism and so forth, right?

01:10:59.000 You can see them right on the screen.

01:11:02.000 And here it is.

01:11:03.000 The CDC lists 20 studies.

01:11:05.000 These are the 20 studies they say they rely upon.

01:11:08.000 Okay?

01:11:08.000 It took forever to litigate.

01:11:09.000 And then at the bottom, before we go to those studies, you can see I signed it on behalf of my client.

01:11:13.000 The Department of Justice signs it on behalf of the CDC and it was signed by a federal judge.

01:11:18.000 Okay?

01:11:19.000 Yes.

01:11:19.000 2020. Here's the thing about these 20 studies.

01:11:24.000 Maybe the CDC thought we don't know how to read or we won't read them, but we did.

01:11:28.000 We read them.

01:11:29.000 And 19 of them have nothing to do with any of the vaccines we asked about.

01:11:34.000 They all are about MMR or Fimerosal, an ingredient that is not in any of the vaccines we asked about.

01:11:40.000 It was taken out decades ago.

01:11:42.000 There was only one study that involved any of the vaccines we asked about, and it was DTaP vaccine.

01:11:47.000 You know what study they listed?

01:11:49.000 That same 2012 IOM report we just looked at and said we can't find any studies.

01:11:56.000 So literally the only freaking study out of these 20 that in any way studied whether vaccines cause autism vis-a-vis the vaccines given in the first six months of life was the 2012 IOM report and it couldn't find a study.

01:12:11.000 Fine.

01:12:12.000 I'm going to give you one last bit on this and then I'm going to stop.

01:12:16.000 And I'm doing this because I just, you know, I said nakedly, I said nakedly, and I mean, I support with the fact that we need that science at my firm, that the post-licension literature is anemic at best.

01:12:31.000 They don't do it.

01:12:32.000 They say they do it, but they don't do it.

01:12:34.000 And I'm using autism as the way to show you, I'm not trying to save vaccines and cause, I'm not even saying vaccines cause autism.

01:12:40.000 I don't need to prove vaccines are safe.

01:12:42.000 You gotta prove, they have to prove it to you, right?

01:12:45.000 That's how informed consent works.

01:12:47.000 I don't have to prove to you.

01:12:49.000 In any event, they're claiming to you it doesn't cause autism.

01:12:52.000 One final, I'll show you one final three-minute video and then I'll stop on this piece.

01:12:56.000 And it's this.

01:12:57.000 There was actually a lawsuit that involved vaccines and autism.

01:13:02.000 And do you remember the medical textbook on vaccines you saw on the screen earlier, Plotkin's Vaccines?

01:13:07.000 Dr. Catherine Edwards was one of the four listening authors.

01:13:12.000 She's one of the world's leading vaccinologists in the world coming into a deposition with me Knowing about the claim vaccines cause autism.

01:13:22.000 That was the central issue in the case.

01:13:24.000 And so she knows I'm going to ask her about it.

01:13:27.000 So presumably she comes prepared.

01:13:29.000 She's coming prepared for my questions about vaccines and autism and all the vaccines, because all the vaccines were at issue.

01:13:35.000 All the vaccines given in the first six months of life were at issue in that case too.

01:13:39.000 So let's see what Dr. Edwards has to say with regards to the state of the science with vaccines and autism.

01:13:45.000 Literally out of math, from the world's, you know, leading vaccinologist.

01:13:52.000 Conducting clinical trials.

01:13:54.000 Okay.

01:13:55.000 According to your profile, you have done most of the preventable trials relied upon to license many of the vaccines, correct, on the market?

01:14:03.000 Yes, sir.

01:14:04.000 Okay.

01:14:05.000 So you're highly experienced at conducting clinical trials, correct?

01:14:09.000 I'm highly experienced conducting clinical trials.

01:14:12.000 Okay.

01:14:14.000 And you're familiar with many of the clinical trials that relied upon to license many of the vaccines currently on the market, correct?

01:14:21.000 I am.

01:14:23.000 In your opinion, did the clinical trials relied upon to license the vaccines that Yates received, many of which are still on the market today?

01:14:35.000 Were they designed to rule out that the vaccine No.

01:14:51.000 You've badgered me into answering the question the way you want me to, but I think that that's probably the answer.

01:14:59.000 Is that your accurate and truthful testimony?

01:15:07.000 Yes.

01:15:07.000 In the expert disclosures for this case, it asserts that, among other things, you will testify that, quote, the issue of whether vaccines cause autism has been thoroughly researched and rejected, end quote.

01:15:21.000 It's your testimony that MMR vaccine cannot cause autism?

01:15:24.000 That's correct.

01:15:25.000 It's your testimony that Head B vaccine cannot cause autism?

01:15:28.000 That's correct.

01:15:29.000 It's your testimony that IPOL cannot cause autism?

01:15:32.000 Yes.

01:15:33.000 It's your testimony that Hib vaccine cannot cause autism?

01:15:35.000 Yes.

01:15:36.000 Your testimony that varicella vaccine cannot cause autism?

01:15:39.000 Yes.

01:15:40.000 It's your testimony that Fevnar vaccine cannot cause autism?

01:15:43.000 Yes.

01:15:43.000 And it's your testimony that DTaP vaccine cannot cause autism?

01:15:46.000 Yes.

01:15:47.000 And do you have a study that supports that DTaP doesn't cause autism?

01:15:51.000 I have.

01:15:52.000 I do not have a study that DTaP causes autism.

01:15:56.000 So I don't have either.

01:15:58.000 Do you have any study, one way or another, of whether IPOL causes autism?

01:16:07.000 No, I do not, sir.

01:16:09.000 Do you have any study, one way or another, of whether Endrex B causes autism?

01:16:15.000 I do not have any evidence that it causes autism, nor that it does not.

01:16:21.000 And what about hip titers? 0.96

01:16:25.000 Vaccine.

01:16:26.000 Any evidence one way or another whether it causes autism?

01:16:30.000 What about Prevnar vaccine?

01:16:32.000 Any evidence one way or another?

01:16:33.000 No, sir.

01:16:34.000 And how about varicella vaccine?

01:16:36.000 Let me just finish.

01:16:36.000 Are there any studies one way or another that support whether it does or doesn't cause autism?

01:16:43.000 Part of MMR, but not as varicella by itself.

01:16:47.000 No, sir.

01:16:48.000 No studies that say it does or no studies that say it doesn't.

01:16:52.000 All right.

01:16:55.000 There have been studies that have found an association between hepatitis E that's seen in autism, correct?

01:17:05.000 Not studies that I feel are credible.

01:17:09.000 Okay, which study are you referring to when you say that?

01:17:14.000 Well, why don't you show me the study and then I'll see whether I agree with that.

01:17:17.000 That's amazing.

01:17:19.000 That's amazing.

01:17:20.000 Because what I feel when I'm watching that, what I feel like is they have no studies and they have defaulted to recommendation and this sort of certain and aggressive position that vaccines do not cause autism.

01:17:36.000 So, even if we defaulted to, and I know that this is not your, that this certainly is not a claim you're making, but if I were to default to vaccines do cause autism, I can refer to the exact same number of studies that they can, with the exact same certainty and expertise that they can, because the studies don't exist either way.

01:17:58.000 And it starts to make you think, which is another thing I've intuitively felt, only the studies and trials that are profitable are the studies and trials that are taking place.

01:18:08.000 No one's conducting studies and trials that are going to negatively impact the bottom line of Merck, Pfizer, Moderna, Johnson& Johnson, because who's going to fund that study and for what reason?

01:18:20.000 And the whole legitimacy that Fauci et al marched into the pandemic arena with was Based on the idea of empiricism and evidence and truth and justice and honesty and transparency.

01:18:34.000 And none of that was verifiable or justifiable.

01:18:38.000 Man, it excites me, the idea that...

01:18:40.000 Watching this, and I don't know how explicit I can be about, like, your relationship with people that are in positions of authority with matters of health and regulation now.

01:18:50.000 But if they're going to have to have conversations like that with you, they're in a lot of trouble.

01:18:56.000 I would imagine, on the basis of what's happened in the last few years.

01:19:01.000 I'm just asking for questions.

01:19:03.000 I'm just asking for the studies that they say are, you know, you heard that montage.

01:19:08.000 We don't know what causes autism, but we're certain that vaccines do not.

01:19:12.000 We have studied it.

01:19:13.000 We have thoroughly reviewed it.

01:19:14.000 We have thoroughly debunked it.

01:19:15.000 Even she, even Dr. Edwards, okay, one of the world's leading vaccinologists, you know, says, thoroughly debunked.

01:19:23.000 Do you have any studies?

01:19:24.000 Uh, no.

01:19:26.000 So, you know, MMR, they have a few, but the other ones they don't.

01:19:29.000 And by the way, to your initial point, there are studies that show that hep B vaccine.

01:19:35.000 There's one study that showed a three times risk amongst babies that got the hep B versus not of autism.

01:19:40.000 There are studies on the, you know, with Guyer and Guyer you saw in the DTaP.

01:19:45.000 The studies that did look at those childhood vaccines for six months, most of them do show a correlation, not saying causation, because you need a clinical trial for that.

01:19:55.000 They show correlation, right?

01:19:57.000 Meriting further study between those products and autism.

01:20:02.000 Now, and again, it just exists.

01:20:05.000 I'm just repeating what's there.

01:20:08.000 Again, I draw no conclusion.

01:20:10.000 I'm just telling you what the state of the science out there is.

01:20:12.000 So if you were going to look at it based on the studies that are out there, actually, it's the other way.

01:20:18.000 Ironically, and that's the incredible irony.

01:20:21.000 You know, a lot of people look at this and they go down this rabbit hole and they see, they're like, oh my goodness, really?

01:20:27.000 You're telling me when they say vaccines are because of autism?

01:20:29.000 They're just saying that with any real proof.

01:20:32.000 They're just saying that based on a few MMR studies that are basically, they have something called healthy user bias.

01:20:38.000 If you have a child that's injured in the first six months of vaccine, what's the parent going to do?

01:20:42.000 Are they going to get the MMR vaccine?

01:20:44.000 No.

01:20:44.000 They're not going to get the MMR vaccine.

01:20:46.000 It's called healthy user bias.

01:20:48.000 It's a CDC term.

01:20:49.000 It's not even my term.

01:20:50.000 The CDC identified this as a problem in vaccine studies, but then they forgot about it.

01:20:54.000 It's in their old literature.

01:20:56.000 And so if you're going to compare kids that got MMR vaccine to kids who don't get MMR vaccine, you have to control for that.

01:21:02.000 You have to control for the fact that some of the kids that don't get MMR might have become autistic, maybe, or, you know, from the prior vaccines, in which case It fudges up your entire results.

01:21:15.000 Which is why I was saying, comparing kids who got 16 shots with 17, meaning they got everything but no MMR, and they got everything plus an MMR, is a useful study.

01:21:25.000 You have to compare exposed to unexposed.

01:21:28.000 That's the way science is done all the time.

01:21:30.000 So, you know, and you know there's there's uh and it's a serious matter you know there's uh there's a there's a story there's a you know couple out there who have triplets and um that Prevnar vaccine remember the 7.2 and 8.2 percent they have triplets and after giving their triplets meningococcal vaccine that that shot All three of them, within 24 hours, totally shut down.

01:21:56.000 And, you know, you watch the video of these two, and she's an audiologist, you know, so she understands, you know, the reflexes and so forth, and she, like, did all of the reflexes.

01:22:09.000 And those kids, you know, and the dad, you know, the mom tells the story in this video, and then the dad does, and, you know, he ends it by saying, he goes, you know, You know, years later, they're still not potty trained.

01:22:25.000 So in the middle of the night, you get up.

01:22:26.000 There's poop all over the kids.

01:22:28.000 Soon there's poop all over them.

01:22:30.000 There's poop everywhere.

01:22:31.000 You know, he starts yelling.

01:22:33.000 She starts yelling.

01:22:34.000 Everybody's yelling at the kids.

01:22:35.000 The kids are getting upset.

01:22:36.000 Everybody's yelling.

01:22:37.000 And he said, the only person that's sound asleep in their bed absent is the guy who told you those shots are safe.

01:22:43.000 And it's, you know, and it's a very powerful video and you watch it because, you know, he's He's just going through life.

01:22:50.000 He's in real estate and he just wants to have the best future first kids.

01:22:54.000 And there's no study that can tell him that that vaccine doesn't cause autism because it doesn't exist.

01:22:59.000 But he's got his own study at home and he'll tell you the vaccine caused autism.

01:23:03.000 And that's who scientists should be listening to.

01:23:05.000 Parents like that.

01:23:06.000 That's what we used to do.

01:23:08.000 When 40 to 70% of parents say, I believe those products cause my kids devastating issue.

01:23:13.000 You should study it.

01:23:14.000 But they don't because The pharma companies have zero interest in doing it.

01:23:20.000 They're never going to do it.

01:23:22.000 And our federal health authorities are totally and utterly conflicted.

01:23:26.000 Because they want to promote these products.

01:23:29.000 They have competing duties of promoting these products and assuring safety.

01:23:35.000 The Department of Energy promotes nuclear power plants.

01:23:43.000 They're not responsible for safety.

01:23:45.000 It's hard to tell industry, make more.

01:23:46.000 Make more nuclear power plants and then slap them When they don't assure safety, so they separated that into a completely independent agency.

01:23:55.000 Same thing with transportation.

01:23:56.000 In America, the Department of Transportation promotes more airplanes and the NTSB is responsible for safety.

01:24:02.000 To separate those functions, it's hard to shake hands with industry and slap them at the same time.

01:24:07.000 With vaccines, there's no separation.

01:24:09.000 In the US, and I'm not aware of it in almost any other country.

01:24:12.000 And even worse, Not only are they conflicted in that way, our regulators are conflicted in the U.S. and other places by the fact that they literally are who you sue for a vaccine injury, and they literally have to defend against any claim that the vaccine causes injury.

01:24:31.000 So if they do any studies that shows it causes injury, it's called an admission against interest.

01:24:38.000 Lawyers will use it against the federal health agencies.

01:24:41.000 Regulators are very weak.

01:24:43.000 It's a very weak way to make products safe.

01:24:45.000 I mean, just look at the old Soviet Union.

01:24:47.000 Look at other countries that didn't have free market economics, economic interest in companies.

01:24:51.000 Do you think they did a good job of assuring product safety?

01:24:53.000 No.

01:24:54.000 Regulators are not what makes products safe.

01:24:56.000 It's economic interest.

01:24:57.000 But they play a role.

01:24:58.000 But when it comes to vaccines, the economic interests are gone, and the regulators are totally conflicted.

01:25:03.000 So who's left to assure the safety of these products?

01:25:05.000 Again, like I said, no conspiracy.

01:25:08.000 And COVID vaccines fell right into that paradigm.

01:25:11.000 Everybody was shocked about how COVID vaccines were trialed, right?

01:25:15.000 The clinical trials, oh my God, that's not good enough.

01:25:17.000 What are you talking about?

01:25:18.000 Compared to most vaccines, they're amazing.

01:25:21.000 Six months of safety review, you had an average two months of placebo control, 30 to 42,000 people.

01:25:26.000 You're going to take a vaccine based on the clinical trial.

01:25:29.000 If that's the metric, well, then COVID vaccines, I think, have pretty much the best clinical trials out there.

01:25:34.000 If you're going to look at post-licensure safety studies, COVID vaccines have more post-licensure safety than I've seen almost any vaccines.

01:25:41.000 And when people go, how can the health authorities do this?

01:25:44.000 Well, because from their perspective, those trials were amazingly robust.

01:25:48.000 From their perspective, what they did post licensure was amazingly robust.

01:25:53.000 From the perspective of your average thinking, breathing, normal human being who's like, I want to protect myself, my family, my kids.

01:26:00.000 And you look at this stuff, you're like, that's crazy.

01:26:03.000 But that's the state of affairs for vaccines.

01:26:07.000 Aaron, that's amazing work.

01:26:09.000 I feel like it's been an incredible journey with you.

01:26:12.000 I feel like, firstly, you should have your own show, but I know you're a pretty busy guy.

01:26:15.000 It's incredible to be shown the building blocks of your arguments, the maintenance of an objective purview wherever possible, and a kind of a faith and trust in truth and integrity, that ultimately if you follow the line, you don't need to that ultimately if you follow the line, you don't need to take care of truth and It will be taken care of if it is well-stewarded and it's being incredibly well-stewarded by you and by your brilliance in your profession.

01:26:44.000 Thank you so much for communicating that with us and sharing that with us.

01:26:48.000 I just pray that your engagement and involvement with the health of the very well-funded American health agencies, certainly well-funded when compared to the GDP of Great Britain, for example, is significantly and sufficiently guarded and guided by your expertise and by your processes.

01:27:09.000 Thank you very much for your time today and for your expertise up until now.

01:27:12.000 Thank you.

01:27:14.000 I appreciate it.

01:27:15.000 Thank you for the time.

01:27:15.000 Thank you for having me.

01:27:16.000 Well, I hope you enjoyed that conversation with Aaron Siri.

01:27:19.000 You've got to follow him on X. His work is extraordinary.

01:27:23.000 I've just made a video about it, more specifically delving into the use of fetal material in vaccines.

01:27:31.000 You'll be able to see that up on Rumble in the next 24 hours.

01:27:35.000 We will be back tomorrow, not with more of the same, but with more of the different.

01:27:38.000 Until then, if you can, stay free.

Stay Free - Russel Brand - December 06, 2024

Aaron Siri REVEALS the Shocking Truth Behind Vaccine Trials – SF509

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