Stay Free - Russel Brand - January 17, 2024


American Journalist MURDERED In Ukraine Jail?! What The F*CK Is Going On?! - Stay Free #286


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 13 minutes

Words per Minute

165.38895

Word Count

12,225

Sentence Count

657

Misogynist Sentences

6

Hate Speech Sentences

9


Summary

Julian Assange and his potential release from prison, and the death of journalist Gonzalo Lira, who, as he predicted, died in jail, is the latest in a series of stories that seem to point towards the possibility of Julian being released from American detention by the Obama administration, and why this is a matter of grave concern for journalists and journalists' families around the world. This episode is brought to you by Awakened Wonder, an independent media organisation, a non-profit organisation dedicated to educating, inspiring, and empowering people to become an awakened wonder. Remember, you can become an Awakening Wonder by pressing the red button and joining our movement, supporting our endeavour, becoming part of what we're trying to create together, genuine opposition to the corruption that threatens to immerse us all, particularly now that is it's disease X oclock? We're going to be talking about Julian Assange's potential freedom, and there's a hearing coming up on Julian's potential release, and a death coming up for journalist, and his father's prediction that his son would be killed in jail. In this video, you'll get to the bottom of it all, and find out what happened to him and why we should be worried about his chances of getting out of prison at all. Stay woke! - Russell Brand Stay free, you're gonna see the future. - Fyjer In This Video: You're Going to See the Future? - Rav Arora, You'll Have to talk about extraordinary government-funded experimentation that seems to be undertaken in order to prevent the effectiveness of new substances becoming known? Also, given that this is an independent movement, well, we need your support, Well, well-being, and an awakening wonder! - Well, we'd like your support. Well, you need your own red button... - We need your help! . in this video: - You're gonna become an AWakened wonder, by pressing that red button, by Pushing the button and join our movement... by pressing it, by becoming an AWAKENED Wonder, by...well, by ...well, you, by joining us, by being part of the Awakening Wonder movement, by.... - well, by listening to our movement well, and helping us become an AwakenED Wonder! In the wake of the awakening wonder - Rachel, Fyjier


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00:00:00.000 you you
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00:02:30.000 Hello there, you Awakening Wonders.
00:02:31.000 Thanks for joining me today for Stay Free with Russell Brand.
00:02:34.000 We've got Rav Arora coming on the show to talk about extraordinary government-funded experimentation that seem to be undertaken in order to prevent the effectiveness of new substances becoming known.
00:02:47.000 Also, given that this is an independent media organisation, an independent movement, Well, we need your support.
00:02:54.000 Remember, you can become an Awakened Wonder by pressing the red button and joining our movement, supporting our endeavour, becoming part of what we're trying to create together, genuine opposition to the corruption that threatens to immerse us all, particularly now, is it disease X o'clock?
00:03:10.000 We're going to be talking about Julian Assange and his potential freedom.
00:03:15.000 There's a hearing coming up.
00:03:16.000 And Gonzalo Lira, who, as he predicted, died in jail. Even though your president Joe Biden said
00:03:24.000 that journalists and a free press were fundamental to American democracy or American
00:03:28.000 republicanism, call it what you want.
00:03:30.000 I mean your individual and correct collective freedom. That's what I'm interested in. Remember,
00:03:35.000 if you're watching this on YouTube, we'll be available on that platform for the first
00:03:38.000 15 minutes on YouTube, then we'll be exclusively available on the Rumble stream. Now, let's
00:03:44.000 have a look at Joe Biden making his way through a bike shop in a state of near bafflement.
00:03:49.000 I'm working the shoreline.
00:03:52.000 This is Morgan Sherwin and Sam.
00:03:57.000 Personally I'm beyond the point of derision now and I'm into the area of concern.
00:04:01.000 Joe Biden there doesn't look like he understands what's being explained to him.
00:04:05.000 I, as a person who loves the Lord, who considers it my personal duty to participate somehow as best I can within my limitations in our mutual awakening and changing the world, think it can't be right to lead this fella through a bike shop pointing at helmets that he thinks potentially could be people.
00:04:24.000 This is Morgan Sherwin and Sam Cerruti.
00:04:30.000 They're our team members here.
00:04:33.000 They help us, they help us, you know, service themselves.
00:04:38.000 Now I suppose with the establishment media continuing to support the effectiveness of
00:04:46.000 Biden's presidency it remains vital that we have a free press.
00:04:50.000 Even Biden himself at the famous White House press dinner said that it was absolutely vital that journalists and independent journalism in particular must be protected at all costs.
00:05:01.000 Our message is this.
00:05:03.000 Journalism is not a crime.
00:05:06.000 As long as they are American hostages that are supportive of the Biden God.
00:05:10.000 Is it okay to call it a regime or are we still calling it an administration?
00:05:12.000 change abroad. As long as they are American hostages that are supportive of the Biden God.
00:05:19.000 Is it okay to call it a regime or are we still calling it an administration? Let me know in the
00:05:24.000 chat because Gonzalo Lira was a journalist that was very critical of Zelensky and critical of
00:05:30.000 the ongoing Russia-Ukraine conflict and he's recently died in prison as he himself predicted.
00:05:37.000 Here's Tucker Carlson's response to that.
00:05:40.000 Gonzalo Lira Sr, his father, says his son has died at 55 in a Ukrainian prison where he's being held for the crime of criticising the Zelensky and Biden governments.
00:05:49.000 Gonzalo Lira was an American citizen but the Biden administration clearly supported his imprisonment and torture.
00:05:54.000 Several weeks ago we spoke to his father who predicted his son would be killed.
00:05:59.000 His son is now dead.
00:06:02.000 Fellow Rumble host Glenn Greenwald posted on it.
00:06:06.000 Neither Biden nor his top officials ever once uttered a word about Gonzalo Lira despite his being an American imprisoned by Ukraine for speaking out and despite the most unhinged Ukrainians threatening his life.
00:06:18.000 I suppose what he's becoming increasingly difficult to ignore ...is that when principles such as freedom, freedom of speech, democracy, autonomy, challenging tyranny are spoken about, it's highly conditional, i.e.
00:06:34.000 journalism that amplifies and normalizes the agenda of the powerful will be supported, will be funded, will be protected.
00:06:42.000 If it's critical, it won't be.
00:06:45.000 Here's Gonzalo Lira's last statement where he plainly had an inkling that his life was in danger.
00:06:51.000 The start of the genesis of this whole situation is because I had an opinion that went against the narrative.
00:07:00.000 And that's why I went to prison.
00:07:02.000 And that's why, if I'm arrested again, I will die in prison.
00:07:09.000 So I ask you, please, as many people as possible, The American State Department knows exactly who I am and the situation I'm currently involved in.
00:07:21.000 And they know the fate that awaits me.
00:07:27.000 They know it.
00:07:29.000 You know, they have that saying that, uh, that I...
00:07:39.000 I forget the wording exactly.
00:07:41.000 I'm a little stressed out, as you can imagine.
00:07:43.000 But they have that saying that people are fundamentally good, but for evil to triumph, all you need is the indifference of good people.
00:07:57.000 May God rest the soul of Gonzalo Lira, a journalist who, as he predicted, died while detained, whose rights, it seems to me, were not respected, considered or prioritised because his views and opinions were oppositional to the preferred state narrative.
00:08:16.000 An American journalist has died in conditions and circumstances that might be thought of as suspicious.
00:08:22.000 Would that have happened if he'd been saying, continue to fund this war in Ukraine.
00:08:26.000 BlackRock should be able to come in and set up digital currencies.
00:08:29.000 NATO impingement on former Soviet territories has not contributed to the escalation of this war.
00:08:34.000 And if any of you doubt the danger of speaking truth to power, then consider Julian Assange who is still in Belmarsh prison, but there is at least some good news.
00:08:45.000 He is getting a public hearing on the 20th and 21st of February.
00:08:51.000 The two-day hearing may be the final chance for Assange to prevent his extradition to the United States, if extradited.
00:08:57.000 Julian Assange faces a sentence of 175 years, fundamentally for exposing war crimes committed by the United States in the Afghan and Iraq wars.
00:09:06.000 Visit freeassange.org for more information and to support Julian and his family.
00:09:13.000 The only person in the political sphere that has openly said he will pardon Julian Assange, and of course, additionally, Edward Snowden, is Bobby Kennedy Jr., RFK.
00:09:25.000 Let's have a look at how he's polling.
00:09:26.000 As part of that campaign, I'm going to give a civics lesson to the American public by pardoning Julian Assange and Edward Snowden.
00:09:38.000 My first day in office.
00:09:46.000 In the same day, I'm going to sign an executive order ordering all federal employees, including the FBI and the CIA, to refrain from colluding or communicating with media or social media companies to censor Are these popular ideas?
00:10:07.000 Are these the kind of ideas that you would support?
00:10:09.000 Would you like to hear Donald Trump saying that Assange should be pardoned?
00:10:13.000 That he would pardon Assange or Snowden?
00:10:16.000 Extraordinary.
00:10:17.000 Let's have a look at RFK's polling.
00:10:21.000 Seems like he's doing extraordinarily well, but is it possible for an independent candidate to rise in a famous two-party, uniparty system?
00:10:31.000 Surely now, in the era of anti-globalism, in the era of anti-establishment politics, which I suppose is what is fueling much of Trump's ascent.
00:10:42.000 The more anti-establishment he's regarded, certainly the establishment hate him, the more he maintains or even grows his popularity.
00:10:49.000 But there are numerous ways in which the establishment might be challenged.
00:10:53.000 Have a look at this.
00:10:54.000 in Germany this movement continues to gain momentum as firefighters join farmers in protesting.
00:11:02.000 If working people across the world begin to unite against the establishment it will be
00:11:31.000 impossible to resist significant change.
00:11:34.000 Unified but decentralised.
00:11:37.000 Sovereignty of the individual, sacrosanct.
00:11:40.000 Ability to run communities, absolutely vital.
00:11:43.000 Power as close as possible to those affected by it.
00:11:46.000 An end to globalisation.
00:11:48.000 An end to the kind of legislation proposed in the WHO treaty.
00:11:52.000 An end to the endeavours and agenda of Davos.
00:11:56.000 New empowerment respectful of individuals and indeed cultures.
00:12:01.000 An end to the nihilistic and unwinnable culture wars.
00:12:05.000 Mutual respect For the myriad ways in which human beings might live together, an end to the leviathans surging upwards from the depths, a beheading of the behemoth that is attempting to control all civic life and indeed consciousness itself.
00:12:21.000 Meanwhile, in Italy, this nun don't seem very happy about this photo shoot.
00:12:25.000 Have a look at this.
00:12:37.000 Now, if you're watching us on YouTube, you can see my interview with Rav Arora.
00:12:42.000 You'll be familiar with Rav because he's reported extensively on, for example, state funding of COVID-19 propaganda.
00:12:49.000 In addition to that, he has some wonderful stories that he's sharing with us first and exclusive on some state-funded, apparently Ill-intentioned clinical trials that appear to have been influenced by the desire to support the ongoing prescribing of SSRIs.
00:13:05.000 Do you remember there was a time when we didn't trust the pharmaceutical industry before they became great heroes in around 2019, 2020, 2021.
00:13:11.000 If you're watching us on YouTube, we cannot report on this story Within the guidelines that YouTube subject themselves for.
00:13:20.000 So join us over there now.
00:13:23.000 Thank you for staying with us on Rumble.
00:13:24.000 If you're joining us for the first time from YouTube, welcome.
00:13:26.000 If you are an awakened wonder, if you're supporting our community, thank you.
00:13:29.000 Joining me today is, as I've just said, Rab Aurora.
00:13:32.000 Rab is an independent journalist based in Vancouver, writing on a wide range of topics, including violent crime.
00:13:37.000 MDMA therapy, which we're talking about today, identity politics and vaccine mandates.
00:13:41.000 You can find his work at Illusion of Consensus or go to illusionconsensus.com.
00:13:47.000 Those links are available.
00:13:48.000 Rav, thank you for joining us.
00:13:51.000 Thanks Russell and great to see the millions of awakening wonders yet again.
00:13:56.000 The way this movement grows, it seems that as the establishment doubles down on its mission
00:14:00.000 to destroy independent thought and the possibility of independent opposition, people continue
00:14:06.000 to tenaciously grip onto deeper truths that are very empowering.
00:14:11.000 Now, you're obviously interested in who isn't the nature of consciousness, and you've bought us an exclusive story prior to publishing it, even on your own sub-stack, and you are one of the best investigative Young, up-and-coming journalists out there, so we're very excited about this story.
00:14:27.000 We talk a lot about psychedelics and psychedelic therapy, and indeed, awakening is very significant in our community.
00:14:35.000 Can you tell us exactly what this story is, what the therapies are that it pertains to, and how it intersects with some of the issues we are already interested in?
00:14:43.000 Like, for example, the kind of control that's exercised by the pharmaceutical industry and their kind of territorialism when it comes to IP.
00:14:51.000 Yeah, so I came into contact with Dr. Joseph Freeman, who authored this incredibly compelling and striking study on the mRNA vaccines being associated with a 1 in 800 serious adverse event rate.
00:15:05.000 I know you've talked about that study before on your show, Russell, you might recall.
00:15:10.000 Yeah, so on our podcast, The Illusion of Consensus on Substack, Dr. Jay Bhattacharya was interviewing Freeman and Freeman just mentioned like early on, I was doing studies on MDMA specifically, known as the pathogen of psychedelics, the heart opener, a drug used for PTSD, individuals with severe trauma.
00:15:34.000 It's a great compound shown in the studies to go through and process severe traumas and difficult emotions.
00:15:44.000 He mentioned he had worked with this drug and then I reached out to him and I said, oh, that's interesting.
00:15:49.000 Psychedelic research is something that I'm interested in as someone who is intrigued by awakening consciousness and healing mental health issues, etc.
00:16:00.000 A person, I would say, who's struggled with mental health issues and knows a lot of individuals struggling with trauma, depression, PTSD, etc.
00:16:08.000 And then when I spoke to him, he started telling me the story that he's never told before, and that became this exclusive piece which I'm very excited to tell you guys about, which is how in Dr. Freeman's early research in the early 2000s, the early aughts, He was part of three peer-reviewed studies focused on giving MDMA to rats in rat studies.
00:16:34.000 And essentially, the nutshell is that, I guess, unsurprisingly, given the war on drugs, the war on psychedelics, and the politicized mission to demonize this specific class of drugs, the studies were done in a way where there was a very clear political and scientific narrative to amplify the negative findings associated with MDMA in these studies and to obscure or downplay or sort of defocus any positive findings.
00:17:04.000 And remember, these studies were NIH-funded, specifically NIDA-funded, the National Institute of Drug Abuse.
00:17:11.000 And Freeman tells me a story about how in three of these studies, one study in which they found That actually adolescent mice were more resistant to MDMA neurotoxicity than adults.
00:17:24.000 And they found that this was a very striking finding because they would think that maybe in the younger mice, there would be more potential neurotoxicity, which is also this kind of big myth that has led to the criminalization and suppression of MDMA is this idea that it's neurotoxic, which is based on some other In some cases, fraudulent or misleading studies, not the ones that Freeman was part of, but some other ones as well.
00:17:47.000 It turns out MDMA is not neurotoxic in the doses given in any kind of therapeutic range.
00:17:52.000 But this particular finding about adolescence and MDMA, about it being more safe than using adults, this finding was the most interesting finding, but Freeman was not able to focus on it.
00:18:04.000 Because of the NIDA funding against what they're exactly looking for.
00:18:09.000 They were giving repeated doses of MDMA in adolescents and as well as another dose when the rats were in adulthood.
00:18:20.000 And they found that repeated doses of MDMA in adolescents actually prevented neurotoxicity from MDMA in adulthood.
00:18:29.000 And this was a very striking finding again that went against kind of the narrative.
00:18:33.000 But they, Freyman told me, they deliberately didn't emphasize this in the study because, remember, the studies were designed and conducted and pushed in a certain way to demonize psychedelics and to show particularly negative findings and not actually talk about any potential benefits.
00:18:51.000 And so here you have this kind of narrative Seeping into or contaminating the science, which is exactly the opposite, Russell, of how we want science to be.
00:19:02.000 We want science to be about, let's do a study, let's find out what happens, right?
00:19:06.000 Let's see the harms and the benefits and weigh them.
00:19:09.000 But here, these government-funded studies were explicitly conducted in a manner to demonize a class of drugs that had these political and Ideological and kind of weird spiritual associations that the government wanted to make illegal and to discourage individuals from taking.
00:19:27.000 And so here you see ideology and politics trumping objectivity and the scientific method.
00:19:36.000 Another example, and thank you for sharing this with us exclusively and primarily, of how the claims of objectivity of science can be thwarted or at least compromised, as you say, by ideology.
00:19:51.000 Your claim is that the NIADH only even undertook These trials in order to discredit these substances.
00:20:03.000 That's the claim.
00:20:06.000 The claim is based on the amplification of negative findings and not correctly covering or conveying positive findings.
00:20:17.000 Is that right?
00:20:18.000 Yes, yeah.
00:20:19.000 And this has since been confirmed actually by someone, Dr. Robert Malone.
00:20:24.000 He came across the piece and we were communicating over the weekend and his wife was part of some early research in the 80s and 90s and she actually confirmed this.
00:20:34.000 And this is going to be another follow-up piece that's going to be available on the Illusion of Consensus Substack tomorrow or the day after.
00:20:41.000 And she confirmed this exact same thing and said at that time When she was not part of MDMA research but in the drug research area, she was told and it was very clear to her that if, for instance, she used the example of marijuana, if they found some positive effect with marijuana, which is a drug being studied, funded to study by the NIDA, the government agency,
00:21:05.000 That would essentially be career suicide.
00:21:06.000 Like, you couldn't do that.
00:21:08.000 If you were funded to study a particular class of drugs by the NIDA, which are heavily politically pressured to paint this narrative, you can't focus on any positive findings.
00:21:20.000 The goal is you're getting money, you're getting rich and wealthy, Based on you doing these studies to support the government agenda.
00:21:28.000 So that all has to work in this systematic, precise way.
00:21:32.000 And if you go against it, you could lose funding at your lab.
00:21:35.000 And this is what Dr. Joseph Freeman shared in his particular experiences.
00:21:42.000 There's one other thing as well that he shared, which in some ways is the most interesting one.
00:21:46.000 There was a third study he was a part of, where they were Kind of comparing SSRIs, particularly citalopram, which is an SSRI, an antidepressant in mice with MDMA.
00:21:57.000 And there was this hypothesis based on other studies that maybe if you gave mice citalopram before you gave MDMA, there could be some neuroprotective or some synergistic effect potentially.
00:22:08.000 And in the study, they were comparing and contrasting these different groups.
00:22:12.000 And they were expecting to find neurotoxicity from the MDMA, and potentially citalopram could help with that, or they were going to investigate what would happen.
00:22:21.000 And they ended up finding, unexpectedly, that when the mice were actually given the SSRI, that itself had produced serotonin damage in the mice, something they didn't expect to find.
00:22:33.000 They were looking for that in the MDMA and they did find that later on because remember they were giving the mice like very high doses of MDMA like extremely high like a person would have to take like a ridiculously large amount of MDMA to get some sort of equivalency there and the you know the temperatures are really high they did all sorts of things for it to find the worst possible outcome.
00:22:55.000 And they found the citaloprime actually caused serotonin damage, which they didn't expect to find.
00:23:01.000 And Freeman, he was stunned by this particular finding, because this is a drug that's widely prescribed in America, in the UK, in Canada.
00:23:08.000 If you go to your doctor and say you have depression, it's very commonly and easily prescribed antidepressants like Halloween candy.
00:23:17.000 And they're finding this particular finding about this commonly used drug, Yet, Freeman again was told by supervisors, basically, no, we can't touch this man.
00:23:26.000 Like, no, we can't badmouth or emphasize any negative findings with SSRIs because we don't want to interfere or damage any relationships with these pharmaceutical companies who gave us these agents and these medications for various studies.
00:23:42.000 We want to maintain a good relationship with Big Pharma because we want to keep getting funding and access to pharmaceuticals to maintain our studies.
00:23:50.000 Yet, Let's focus on all the negative findings we can get with MDMA because, well, the government wants to criminalize and to demonize this particular class of drugs.
00:24:01.000 This is nothing less than systemic corruption where there are fait accompli prerequisite outcomes at the point at which they embark on the endeavor.
00:24:13.000 You could assume that if those clinical trials were undertaken by a private enterprise, That there would be a different outcome because it would mean, perhaps, that the FDA had approved the possibility of licenses being afforded to those drugs.
00:24:32.000 In a sense, if it's a government-funded clinical trial where there is no predetermined partnership with a private pharmacological entity, it's likely that the clinical trials are being undertaken to condemn tarnish and curtail the use to, as you say, demonize, in
00:24:50.000 this case MDMA, and if it was undertaken by, I don't know, Pfizer or another giant
00:24:55.000 organization, it's likely that they might, using the same drugs with slightly different methods,
00:25:01.000 reach a positive outcome because at this point the drug is ready to be licensed.
00:25:04.000 So in a sense, would you say that in all likelihood we're at a phase where the profitability of
00:25:10.000 SSRIs is too significant to be countenanced, challenged and diminished by rival substances?
00:25:18.000 And beyond that, Rav, do you imagine that there are...
00:25:22.000 Reasons that pertain to the general well-being.
00:25:25.000 Because a lot of time when you're globally covering the kind of subjects that you cover and that we cover over here, you get the sense that there's a requirement that people, the light of the human heart remains dimmed.
00:25:37.000 That people feel Repressed, subdued, hopeless and despairing.
00:25:42.000 And I know a lot of people in our chats will identify with that.
00:25:45.000 It's almost as if part of the function of the culture is ongoing disempowerment, the creation of division.
00:25:51.000 And when you hear, for example, of emergent substances that might be beneficial for mental health, they are controlled until there's a point where it might become profitable and then At that point that they could be in some diminished or distinct or evolved way be utilized.
00:26:11.000 So I guess what I'm asking you is, do you think it's just for the cause of the profitability of SSRIs?
00:26:17.000 That's one part of the question.
00:26:18.000 Second part of the question, do you reckon if like these products were licensed, they'd just trial it again and go, actually it works quite well now.
00:26:25.000 And do you think there's a sort of a broad, do you get the sense that there's a broader appetite to keep people sort of subdued and despondent?
00:26:34.000 Yeah, those are all great questions.
00:26:36.000 Yeah, there's a great quote from Brett Weinstein recently.
00:26:39.000 He was on Tucker's show.
00:26:40.000 He put it perfectly.
00:26:41.000 He said, Pharma is healthy when people are sick.
00:26:46.000 And I think that's true in many respects.
00:26:49.000 You have big pharma corporations and government entities that are essentially monetizing and profiting off of disease states.
00:26:58.000 It's not exactly in the best interest to give, you know, Holistic mind-body healing to deal with the core of our mental health and physical problems.
00:27:14.000 In many cases, you're seeing across the United States and across the West, we're moving more and more towards just giving pills and handing off prescriptions to deal with very complicated Issues like PTSD, like depression.
00:27:30.000 I mean, we're talking about SSRIs and antidepressants.
00:27:34.000 The idea, Russell, I totally challenge this.
00:27:37.000 The idea that in any way you could cure depression with a pill is ludicrous to me.
00:27:45.000 It doesn't even make sense just as a premise.
00:27:47.000 Because what is depression, right?
00:27:49.000 Depression, someone who's lonely, lacking social connection, lacking spiritual connection, have unhealthy relationships.
00:27:56.000 Isn't working out, isn't exercising potentially, has this gray cloud over their head.
00:28:01.000 Usually a lot of people with various traumas in their life from childhood to adulthood etc etc.
00:28:07.000 There's all these kind of issues you know maybe someone left a job and now they're despondent and in despair because they don't know what to do next and now they feel depressed or they just had a traumatic breakup with someone that they loved and that they invested all their life in but yet This person doesn't love them anymore and now they feel depressed.
00:28:27.000 That is a very complex human problem that's existed since the dawn of time.
00:28:33.000 The idea that you could fix that with a pill makes absolutely no sense.
00:28:37.000 These are very complicated problems that you have to deal in a holistic manner.
00:28:41.000 And psychedelics like I want to be careful and make sure people understand like I am not some guy here just promoting drugs or like in any way some kind of influencer or who wants to say you should take these things willy-nilly or in some recreational way.
00:28:57.000 I personally have grown up in a very conservative traditional kind of Hindu upbringing with my parents who are immigrants from India.
00:29:04.000 I never smoked any marijuana or did any drugs when I was a kid.
00:29:08.000 It was strongly condemned And in fact, I have a very strong or did have a very strong bias against psychedelics and marijuana.
00:29:15.000 It was very kind of anathematized or condemned in a way.
00:29:21.000 Yet over the past few years, as I see the rise in mental health issues across the West, right?
00:29:27.000 Depression, PTSD, anxiety, ADHD, in researching what works and what doesn't work,
00:29:34.000 you quickly begin to realize if you're looking with an open mind
00:29:38.000 that psychedelic therapies are incredibly effective and probably the most effective therapeutic we have
00:29:46.000 on the market for dealing with some of these complex problems.
00:29:50.000 And it makes sense, right?
00:29:51.000 It makes sense.
00:29:52.000 It's not like an antidepressant that numbs you or makes the highs less high and the lows less low.
00:29:57.000 It's kind of what some people experience on SSRIs.
00:30:00.000 It's for MDMA, going back to the specific topic.
00:30:03.000 MDMA, for example, there are now incredible studies done by Rick Doblin at MAPS, um, who I've recently interviewed and recent phase two study that showed 71% of individuals who had undergone this MDMA therapy protocol, which involves three sessions of MDMA over the span of six months with psychotherapy before, in between, and after these sessions, 71% of these individuals with PTSD, people who are replaying and constantly
00:30:35.000 Being plagued by these past traumas and past experiences are now in these sessions where basically you're in seven eight hours per session and you're working through and then and re-experiencing and reprocessing difficult emotions and traumas that you've experienced and This isn't a podcast, we're going deep into psychedelics, but that's kind of the gist of it and something that's very powerful for folks.
00:30:57.000 This therapeutic, 71%, Russell, for those that don't know, is incredibly astounding.
00:31:03.000 And that's similar and basically the same figures for psilocybin for depression, great studies at Johns Hopkins.
00:31:10.000 Other studies with LSD and DMT being done as well, but psilocybin, ayahuasca, MDMA, astounding efficacy, unlike SSRIs, which basically seem like a placebo at this point.
00:31:21.000 And the dominant theory for prescribing SSRIs was that there's a serotonin imbalance in the brain, therefore we can chemically correct that with handing off this pill, when in reality that story has now been widely debunked and If you ask psychiatrists, they don't have a lot of solutions in the toolbox, and a big reason why psychedelic therapies, which are showing to be more and more effective with these incredible studies at Johns Hopkins and Rick Doblin at MAPS,
00:31:51.000 These drugs have been demonized from the early 70s and 80s and 90s when they were coming onto the scene.
00:31:57.000 And there were a lot of complications with it.
00:32:00.000 Some of the people that were advocating for these things, you know, TuneIn, Dropout, the whole Timothy Leary thing who he had conducted some misleading research and it kind of became this politicized mission.
00:32:10.000 And some of the psychedelic advocates were quite irresponsible in what they were advocating for in society.
00:32:17.000 And so that really Frustrated or scared the powers that be.
00:32:23.000 And there became these federal regulations were being passed.
00:32:26.000 There was this idea that if you allow people to take psychedelics, then people are going to tune it, you know, tune out and drop out of society and not participate in a responsible, obedient, civil way.
00:32:37.000 But what ended up happening is instead of having an honest conversation about risks and benefits and putting in the
00:32:42.000 proper guardrails with this with the stuff, there was just a complete elimination of the conversation and pushing to
00:32:50.000 criminalize these drugs.
00:32:51.000 Republicans and Democrats were in favor of this, and there was this perception that we can't let the kids take the LSD,
00:32:57.000 otherwise they'll go crazy.
00:32:58.000 And a lot of those studies, like I said, Dr. Joseph Framon's testimony, which is incredibly powerful, and by the way, we
00:33:05.000 were talking about this and it's like, we were worried, like, Joseph, if he wants to continue doing research, you
00:33:11.000 know, how, how is that going to happen if he's now revealing these political narratives?
00:33:15.000 And he's basically, at this point now, with his research on COVID vaccines and other things, not wanting to rely anymore on NIH or NIDA.
00:33:25.000 It's more important for someone like him to reveal these bombshell, these revelations about how this research was conducted, then, you know, being in good favor with NIH and NIDA who, as we're finding out more and more Russell, The way in which we perceive and understand pharmaceuticals, drugs, and vaccines is not exactly how they're conducted or how they're designed.
00:33:53.000 We look at the conventional wisdom on drugs, medicines, and vaccines as being absolute gospel, right?
00:33:59.000 Whatever our doctor says, whatever Fauci says, whatever the FDA and the CDC say must be true, right?
00:34:05.000 And that's something that I would have thought before as well.
00:34:07.000 But as it turns out, as I do more and more research and follow these threads in my career, the way these things are ...processed and kind of propagandized to the public.
00:34:18.000 The way these things are studied, it's not just vaccines.
00:34:21.000 It's not just whatever drug is most effective and what is the most safe.
00:34:25.000 We saw this with the COVID vax as well.
00:34:27.000 There are a lot of financial and political and ideological interests at play that we don't get to see as the public.
00:34:34.000 We just get to see, oh, vaccines are safe and effective.
00:34:37.000 Oh, psychedelics are dangerous and we don't want to go near them.
00:34:39.000 And oh, antidepressants are actually the solution to your problem.
00:34:42.000 And oh, ADHD medications, which more and more youth, more and more kids my age or younger in Gen Z are
00:34:49.000 being prescribed ADHD medications because they can't focus. And there's this great Adderall
00:34:54.000 and Ritalin crisis now, this shortage of these drugs, Russell, where doctors are
00:34:59.000 prescribing this more and more and more and more kids are heavily medicated with these stimulant
00:35:03.000 drugs because they have ADHD, which means they can't focus, which is like everyone these
00:35:08.000 days.
00:35:08.000 And now we're moving further and further towards medication rather than focusing on the holistic solutions.
00:35:14.000 And I think big pharma, the government and the media is largely to blame.
00:35:20.000 than the curation of reality.
00:35:25.000 Initially, at the point of clinical trial, the type of trials that are undertaken with a particular objective in mind, But the good news is we are able now to provide competing narratives to the dominant narratives that, as you say, suggest an empirical and unimpeachable reality as offered to us by the kind of interests that you are currently investigating.
00:35:54.000 Now I'm very excited by your revelation and again very grateful to you for the exclusivity.
00:36:02.000 What I would like to say is that it was only a brief period of time where the pharmaceutical industry was granted a kind of I would say equivalency with the other aspects of the medical industry, i.e.
00:36:16.000 that we saw Big Pharma as participants in a philanthropic endeavor to save society during an immersive and terrifying pandemic.
00:36:26.000 Prior to that, you know, in the United States in particular, the opioid crisis meant that the pharmaceutical industry was regarded with a great deal of cynicism.
00:36:35.000 And now, with various inquiries being undertaken across the world, the pharmaceutical industry's position as a respected institution is once again being challenged.
00:36:48.000 What's interesting to me, Rav, and also as an area that you have covered in your work, is the point where the state have been providing additional funding to propagandize medical and pharmaceutical solutions, in particular to the COVID-19 pandemic.
00:37:05.000 We know of course that 55% of TV, certainly cable news advertising, comes from pharmaceutical companies and indeed a significant amount from Pfizer itself.
00:37:13.000 But in addition to that, you revealed in some of your reporting that the state were funding what amounts to now COVID-19 propaganda, or at least vaccine propaganda.
00:37:24.000 Can you tell us a little bit more about that story?
00:37:28.000 Yes, and I appreciate you guys covering the story I saw on YouTube.
00:37:32.000 I was like, watching on YouTube your video just because I watch your stuff, and I was like, oh, this is a topic I covered about how the U.S.
00:37:40.000 government paid media outlets to promote the COVID vaccine.
00:37:42.000 And I go on, I'm like, oh, this is my article.
00:37:44.000 It's like, that's cool.
00:37:46.000 Appreciate it.
00:37:49.000 Yeah, so this came to a surprise initially, but it made sense given the experience I had before.
00:37:57.000 I don't know if I want to go into it all now, but last year in the summertime I published a couple of essays about how How I was writing for a number of major mainstream outlets, some left-leaning, some right-leaning, and I've decided not to name these outlets because I don't want to pick a fight with a big multi-million dollar media corporation.
00:38:20.000 I don't want to badmouth any People I was working with in particular, but basically I was writing for a number of outlets very consistently, having published many times before, and I started investigating vaccine side effects, particularly myocarditis and hearing about cases of vaccine myocarditis.
00:38:37.000 And I wanted to report on this and write about it in some of these places.
00:38:42.000 And time and time again, the response I was getting, Russell, this is quite shocking and the antithesis to what I think journalism should be.
00:38:51.000 Rav, we're a pro-vaccine publication.
00:38:53.000 We can't publish content like this because we want to promote vaccine hesitancy.
00:38:58.000 Like, we're not going to be, like, time and time again, this was the response I was getting from editors.
00:39:02.000 Like, no, our publication is going to promote the COVID vaccine, so we're not going to platform this vaccine skepticism or this, you know, your coverage of side effects.
00:39:11.000 And I was like, whoa!
00:39:12.000 I was like, hold on here.
00:39:13.000 I thought journalism was about Honestly, investigating these hot button topics free of an agenda, free of, is this going to promote hesitancy or is this going to, you know, align with a certain political ideology or not?
00:39:27.000 I was just looking for the truth, similar with my recent reporting on psychedelic research.
00:39:32.000 And I was quite frustrated at the time and that drove eventually my migration to Substack and creating the Illusion Census and making a name for myself instead of relying on these major media outlets.
00:39:43.000 So recently I came across this story and investigated it further and found out that many of those publications that I was in contact with, and just many publications in U.S.
00:39:55.000 media, publications that we all read and know about, were getting direct funding from the U.S.
00:40:01.000 government to promote the COVID vaccine.
00:40:04.000 And I went and looked into their advertisements.
00:40:06.000 I know you did as well.
00:40:07.000 And they contained advertisements about these vaccines are safe and effective.
00:40:12.000 Your kids should be getting it.
00:40:14.000 Myocarditis is just a small temporary issue.
00:40:18.000 COVID is a bigger threat.
00:40:19.000 If you get the updated COVID vaccine, it'll prevent long COVID.
00:40:23.000 And to me, it was like, wait, again, this is the opposite of what I thought journalism was supposed to be doing.
00:40:29.000 I thought we were supposed to be questioning those people and those people in white lab
00:40:32.000 coats who are putting out these decrees and propagandizing to the public about the safety
00:40:38.000 and efficacy of these experimental vaccines, when in reality what's happening is you're
00:40:44.000 getting funding from them.
00:40:46.000 And so that, and how explicit this problem actually is, I'm not sure.
00:40:51.000 Like, how exactly these stories are turned out in mainstream media, what happens behind the scenes.
00:40:58.000 I'm not in those newsrooms, so I don't know.
00:41:01.000 But we saw what happened in mainstream media with the Reputational decapitation of Joe Rogan for talking about myocarditis and talking about early treatments for COVID.
00:41:12.000 We saw the constant, you know, defenestration of anyone who was asking questions about vaccine side effects and yet at the same time these publications were getting funding to promote these vaccines.
00:41:25.000 I think this is why independent media has risen so much, Russell, is because there has been now, I think, this is a very important point, I think there's been a great unveiling in the public, Russell.
00:41:38.000 Like the Gutenberg printing press, now we're in this age of media where establishment narratives are being challenged, questioned, and eviscerated in real time, right?
00:41:50.000 We're no longer just relying on the medical establishment and the CDC and the FDA.
00:41:54.000 We're in the age of podcasts and sub-stack newsletters and the internet.
00:41:58.000 And I know some people like, individuals like Sam Harris talk about The problems associated with that, and it's true, there are problems associated with this, right?
00:42:06.000 if all you have is Substack and podcasts and people like yourself who aren't scientists
00:42:10.000 and people like myself who aren't experts in vaccines talking about this issue,
00:42:14.000 yeah, there are gonna be some people, some grifters and some anti-vaxxers
00:42:18.000 and some people with extreme rhetoric or people who are not reliable
00:42:21.000 because they don't have the relevant background.
00:42:24.000 But the problem is the people in authority, people with power have been wrong repeatedly
00:42:29.000 again and again and again, when it comes to vaccines, when it comes to pharmaceuticals
00:42:33.000 like SSRIs and ADHD meds, right?
00:42:36.000 When it comes to psychedelic therapies and the suppression of these therapies
00:42:39.000 that can help so many people and uplift them out of their suffering,
00:42:43.000 whether depression, PTSD, anxiety, et cetera.
00:42:46.000 And so these establishment narratives are being questioned more and more.
00:42:50.000 And like I said, we're moving more and more towards medication as an establishment
00:42:55.000 and more and more towards vaccinating and medicating and following our mainstream primary physician's advice
00:43:01.000 on these complex mind-body problems.
00:43:03.000 But I think for those of us that are more politically conscious and tuning into this, Great awakening in podcastistan.
00:43:11.000 We're seeing the days of SSRIs, ADHD meds, and trusting people in white lab coats being gone in the age of morning sunlight, sauna, cold plunge, ashwagandha, Taking supplementation, psilocybin, MDMA, therapy, working through your traumas as now being in vogue increasingly so.
00:43:30.000 So we're moving away from centralized authority and kind of mainstream medical propaganda to individuals taking their health in their own hands and exploring their own traumas and their own issues without just medicating themselves with a pill or trusting advice that's proving to be more and more dangerous and misinformed.
00:43:51.000 And Rav Arora, I think you have precisely described the nature of the problem but also the nature of the solution.
00:43:59.000 Our individual awakening is a threat to ongoing centralized power and your work is so far extraordinarily effective and Unfolding, exploring and explaining exactly how that pans out.
00:44:14.000 Rav, I'm so grateful to you for coming on the show.
00:44:17.000 You can follow Rav on illusionofconsensus.com.
00:44:22.000 You can find more of Rav's reporting and his work with Jay Bhattacharya, another guest of the show and fantastic and reliable medic by going to Substack and looking at Illusion of Consensus if you want to support Rav's great reporting as we do.
00:44:37.000 Rav, thank you very much for that story.
00:44:39.000 Thank you for the other work you've done and I'd love to have another conversation where we get more into this stuff, the kind of things that you've been touching upon towards the end of our conversation.
00:44:49.000 I'd like to do a deeper exploration into some of that stuff in the coming weeks.
00:44:53.000 Would you be available for that?
00:44:56.000 Yes, thanks for the mention.
00:44:56.000 Absolutely.
00:44:58.000 Substack, if people can support us, that's where we have, if you can subscribe for free if you want, but if you want to support us, people, individuals can become paid subscribers.
00:45:07.000 That really helps us out.
00:45:08.000 That's the way independent journalism is done.
00:45:10.000 So you can check that out, Illusion of Consensus.
00:45:13.000 And Russell, thank you again for the platform.
00:45:15.000 I really appreciate what you've been doing the last couple of years.
00:45:18.000 A big, big fan of yours.
00:45:20.000 And yes, I would absolutely love to go deeper into some of these topics.
00:45:24.000 We have not yet talked about any of the mental health crises that I've gotten myself out of over the last couple of years.
00:45:30.000 And some of your early videos about heartbreak, about depression and anxiety actually were quite helpful a couple years ago.
00:45:37.000 And now, most people actually don't know, but I'm in university, I'm basically majoring in Eastern mysticism and Buddhism, Hinduism, psychedelics.
00:45:45.000 It's like the other world that I occupy and that we haven't actually talked about.
00:45:49.000 So, I look forward to another conversation where we get into matters more contemplative and mystical, because I think you and I align on a lot of those things.
00:45:58.000 So, look forward to it.
00:45:59.000 Thank you, Rav, so much.
00:46:00.000 You can find the links to Rav's work in the description right now.
00:46:04.000 Rav, thank you so much, mate.
00:46:05.000 That was brilliant.
00:46:06.000 Yeah.
00:46:07.000 Thanks, Russell.
00:46:09.000 You can find more of Rav's work at Illusion of Consensus or go to illusionconsensus.com.
00:46:14.000 Now stay with us as we explode the vowels and illusory matrices within which we are usually confined.
00:46:20.000 Here's the news.
00:46:20.000 No, here's the effing news.
00:46:22.000 Thanks for watching Zipfuckzine.
00:46:24.000 Here's the news.
00:46:25.000 No, here's the fucking news.
00:46:28.000 Trump stormed Iowa with more power than the blizzard that was consuming it
00:46:32.000 and the legacy media are in meltdown.
00:46:35.000 But what is the reason for Trump's inevitable ascendancy?
00:46:39.000 Who is making the Democrats unelectable?
00:46:41.000 Is it Donald Trump or is it the Democrats themselves?
00:46:46.000 The legacy media are falling apart assuming that Trump 2024 is an inevitability.
00:46:51.000 How can they maintain that Joe Biden, visibly waxing and cadaverous before our eyes, can oppose this force?
00:47:00.000 It seems to be the beginning of the end for Biden.
00:47:02.000 Ten months to go yet, but it seems like an insurmountable surge of popularity.
00:47:07.000 Is Trump the biggest threat American democracy faces, or is he an inevitability of institutional corruption, banality and hypocrisy?
00:47:15.000 I'm sorry I just have to do a little bit of business just for a second.
00:47:18.000 Certainly one person who seems to be terrified of a Donald Trump victory and even Donald Trump verbiage is Rachel Maddow who says that Donald Trump's speeches cannot be broadcast presumably to protect us or just in case he does a misinformation or he slips out a malinformation or an untruth but of course anyone that knows anything about MSNBC knows that they regularly broadcast misinformation whether that's around the pandemic the medications that grow grew out of that era, the Russiagate hoax, the Hunter Biden
00:47:45.000 laptop. It's just which flavour of misinformation and which flavour of authoritarianism you,
00:47:51.000 or indeed they, prefer. When you watch this, does this make Trump less appealing to you, or does
00:47:55.000 it make him feel like some sexy elixir that can't even be shown on TV? Particularly if
00:48:00.000 you actually watch the speech where he's just like, Nikki Haley, nice lady, Ron DeSantis,
00:48:04.000 well done.
00:48:04.000 I want to congratulate Ron and Nikki for having a good time together.
00:48:11.000 We're all having a good time together.
00:48:13.000 And I think they both actually did very well.
00:48:17.000 Very smart people, very capable people.
00:48:19.000 It's not like he said, smash the state, fight the power, blah, blah.
00:48:23.000 At this point in the evening, the projected winner of the Iowa caucuses has just started giving his victory speech.
00:48:30.000 He's not Voldemort.
00:48:32.000 We do not speak his name.
00:48:33.000 You can't name him.
00:48:35.000 The projected winner, he that must not be named, has got, oh my god, 51% of the entire vote!
00:48:41.000 Anyway, we can't broadcast his speech in case he's so damn charismatic, even dyed in the wool, liberal voters turn over.
00:48:49.000 The best thing that their liberal establishment could do right now if they wanted to damage Donald Trump is say, let me tell you something.
00:48:54.000 I like Donald Trump.
00:48:55.000 You should vote for him.
00:48:57.000 You should get out there now and vote for Donald Trump.
00:48:59.000 Then it'd be like with UFOs.
00:49:01.000 They're putting UFOs on the news now?
00:49:01.000 What?
00:49:03.000 UFOs, they ain't real.
00:49:04.000 The reason I'm saying this is, of course, there is a reason that we and other news organizations have generally stopped giving an unfiltered live platform to remarks by former President Trump.
00:49:04.000 That's a hoax.
00:49:15.000 I don't know if you could make him sound any more sexy if you tried.
00:49:19.000 He's somewhere between a bourbon, a new strain of cannabis, and Jimi Hendrix.
00:49:23.000 We cannot give you unfiltered Donald Trump.
00:49:26.000 Better put some water with that Donald Trump.
00:49:28.000 He might come out and thank Vivek for a bravely fought campaign.
00:49:32.000 And honestly, earnestly, it is not an easy decision, but there is a cost to us as a news organization of knowingly broadcasting untrue things.
00:49:42.000 Uh, Rachel?
00:49:44.000 It stops with you.
00:49:45.000 You take this thing, it stops.
00:49:46.000 Is it still on YouTube?
00:49:47.000 It's still on YouTube.
00:49:49.000 Now we know that the vaccines work well enough that the virus stops with every vaccinated person.
00:49:55.000 A vaccinated person gets exposed to the virus, the virus does not infect them, the virus cannot then use that person to go anywhere else.
00:50:02.000 That is a fundamental truth of our business and who we are.
00:50:05.000 And so his remarks tonight will not air here live.
00:50:09.000 In a sense we have the problem in microcosm right here.
00:50:12.000 It's not misinformation, it's misinformation that's inconvenient to the establishment.
00:50:16.000 It's not authoritarianism, it's authoritarianism that's inconvenient, if not to the establishment, their version of the establishment.
00:50:23.000 It's absurd that you show a speech by Rhonda Sanders or Nikki Haley and not by Donald Trump, particularly if you've watched that speech.
00:50:28.000 It simply could have been done by Jimmy Stewart.
00:50:30.000 He's just sort of like, hey, thank you.
00:50:32.000 I'm trying my best.
00:50:33.000 It's Christmas.
00:50:34.000 We will monitor them and let you know about any news that he makes.
00:50:39.000 Also, you're giving him so much power, even, like, if I was advising strategy.
00:50:43.000 Don't say he makes news.
00:50:44.000 Don't say he's so, sort of, sexy and cool that if he's on there, you're making him into an outlaw, you lunatics!
00:50:49.000 You're making him more appealing than ever.
00:50:50.000 Stop indicting him!
00:50:51.000 You're indicting him all the way to the White House!
00:50:54.000 It's because the basis of his candidacy is he's running against politics.
00:50:58.000 He's running against politicians.
00:51:00.000 He's running against policy.
00:51:01.000 He's running against the whole idea that a Congress does a thing.
00:51:05.000 In a way, I actually agree with that.
00:51:07.000 And I also feel that why would you not analyse, why would you not scrutinise, with the same degree of disdain, the activity within the Biden administration?
00:51:14.000 Why would you not say, possibly the reason that people are against politics, policy, the function of Congress, is because there has been so much corruption, so much deception.
00:51:23.000 How do we feel about the ongoing vilification of Donald Trump because, like, oh, those kids in cages?
00:51:28.000 when we find out that Barack Obama built those cages?
00:51:31.000 How can we deal with the constant vilification of Trump because build a wall, build a wall, build a wall, when Joe Biden's gonna build that wall anyway?
00:51:37.000 The whole thing seems like hysteria, tribalism, favoritism, an inability to face the emergent id of the angry working American people.
00:51:46.000 And why are they angry?
00:51:48.000 Why are they angry?
00:51:49.000 It's because of this stuff.
00:51:51.000 In a country that has a strong man leader.
00:51:53.000 He's running for a situation in which he is the leader.
00:51:58.000 There is no government.
00:51:59.000 There isn't a policy process.
00:52:01.000 It's weird though, because Donald Trump has actually been president for four years.
00:52:04.000 So there's data available, some of which we'll share with you, about what actually happened while Donald Trump was in office.
00:52:09.000 He didn't go, right, you're all under arrest.
00:52:11.000 OK, Don Lemon, you're out.
00:52:13.000 I mean, people weren't lined up against the wall.
00:52:15.000 What happened was is there was a rise in some jobs.
00:52:18.000 There was a fall in unemployment, broadly comparable to the preceding Obama administration.
00:52:23.000 There was a lot of late night talk show riffs and gags.
00:52:27.000 It's very difficult, if you ask me, to make significant change within the turgid system of conventional American politics.
00:52:33.000 That's certainly my position, is you're not going to change it that much because there's so many layers of infrastructure.
00:52:37.000 Indeed, Martin Gurie, who's a brilliant source on this and A Liberal Democrat, broadly speaking, he wrote the amazing book, The Revolt of the Public, said, if you expect to become an authoritarian, you have to wield absolute control over a key institution of government, such as the military, like Franco, Perón or Pinochet from Spain, Argentina and Chile, of course, or a mass movement with a paramilitary wing like Lenin, Mussolini or Mao.
00:52:58.000 Neither condition applies to Donald Trump.
00:53:00.000 Every federal institution is ferociously set against him.
00:53:03.000 What would happen if Trump ordered the FBI or the 101st Airborne Division to start shooting Democrats?
00:53:08.000 It's ridiculous.
00:53:09.000 Donald Trump does not have a paramilitary wing at Mar-a-Lago.
00:53:12.000 The hysteria around Trump has reached a pitch where you have to ignore it.
00:53:16.000 Similarly, from the same article, Martin Gurry, what kind of person becomes an authoritarian?
00:53:20.000 Well, it may look like fun, but authoritarianism is really hard work.
00:53:23.000 You need to be in the prime of life in your 30s or 40s, like Lenin, Stalin, Mussolini, Hitler, Franco, Mao and Castro.
00:53:29.000 Very rarely an exceptional person such as Julius Caesar is granted literal dictatorship.
00:53:33.000 The Romans invented the entire idea in his early 50s.
00:53:36.000 So there you are.
00:53:37.000 And isn't it more likely the reason that Trump is so appealing is because of his vitality, vivacity, rhetorical skill, ability to reach the emotional heart of Americans everywhere, and because what the Democrats are telling you the solution is a waxen cadaverous near-zombie in the form of Joe Biden, who had this to say, He's the clear frontrunner for the other side at this point.
00:54:00.000 But here's the thing.
00:54:01.000 This election was always going to be you and me against extreme MAGA Republicans.
00:54:05.000 It was true yesterday and it will be true tomorrow.
00:54:07.000 In short, the legacy media and the establishment themselves are doubling down on the idea that this is an extremist movement rather than a populist one.
00:54:14.000 Populist is opposite to extremist.
00:54:16.000 It means it's spread out across a vast population.
00:54:19.000 If we are worried about the rise of authoritarianism in this country, we are worried about potential rise of fascism in this country.
00:54:26.000 We're worried about our democracy falling to an authoritarian and potentially fascist form of government.
00:54:32.000 It's all black people that have worked within the Democrat Party, all people that are clearly affiliated with the Democrat Party, sort of pretending to be the sort of goodies and this is the sober, somber analysis.
00:54:43.000 But really, this is just more hysteria, more propaganda.
00:54:47.000 People have seen through that now.
00:54:48.000 What they are doing is making the situation much, much worse continually.
00:54:53.000 And the American electorate is made up of two major parties.
00:54:57.000 One of those parties has been flirting with extremism on the ultra right for a very long time.
00:55:02.000 They've brought them in in a way that they haven't been central to Republican electoral politics ever before.
00:55:08.000 And I know because I've been studying this.
00:55:10.000 It's very interesting to make such sweeping statements about taxonomies and use terms like extreme right while simultaneously indulging post-structuralist ideas like there's no such thing as identity or masculinity or femininity, all ideas that I'm absolutely open to in the infinite morasses and molasses of space.
00:55:25.000 But if you say there is an absolute thing called extreme right rather than democracy, because what's just happened is a Republican candidate has gone up against a bunch of other Republican candidates in Iowa and every single district has gone, that guy!
00:55:38.000 That's, I think, democracy.
00:55:40.000 And yes, Trumpism is sometimes what we call it.
00:55:42.000 MAGA movement is probably a better way to do it.
00:55:45.000 But there is an authoritarian movement inside Republican politics that isn't being bamboozled by Trump.
00:55:51.000 They are pushing Trump to get more and more extreme because the more extreme things he says, The more they adhere to him.
00:55:58.000 And that is coming from a very large proportion of the American right that adheres to the Republican Party.
00:56:05.000 And that's why this is a Republican Party problem more than it is the problem of one man and his leader.
00:56:13.000 Since Trump, we've had four years of Biden.
00:56:17.000 If Trump is as extreme as the legacy media are saying, surely we will have seen extreme fluctuations and extreme changes.
00:56:26.000 Let's compare some of the data between these administrative periods and see if there's another reason why the Democrat Party might have gone into decline.
00:56:33.000 Looking at the three years before COVID-19 made a mess of things, the US economy under Trump performed about the same as it had during the last three years under President Obama.
00:56:42.000 The last three years of President Obama's administration saw an increase of 8.1 million jobs and a 2% point drop in the overall unemployment rate, decreasing from 6.2% in 2014 to 4.9% at the end of 2016.
00:56:54.000 Under Trump, the number of jobs increased by 6.5 million in his first three years and unemployment dropped from 4.4% to 3.7%.
00:57:00.000 Similar.
00:57:01.000 Comparable.
00:57:05.000 Not a massive swing in either direction.
00:57:08.000 So whether you're fervently pro Donald Trump and you love him and his charisma and his easy style, or if you love Barack Obama and his classiness or whatever, you have to say that looking at these numbers, it's not that different, is it really?
00:57:21.000 After losing the 2016 presidential election to Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton variously blamed WikiLeaks, Bernie Sanders, misogynistic voters, white women, former FBI Director James Comey, and above all, the Russian government for her defeat.
00:57:34.000 And certainly the legacy media that won't show Donald Trump's victory speech in Iowa supported all of those stories pretty vociferously.
00:57:41.000 Many of her supporters, not least those in the media, leapt to embrace her excuses.
00:57:46.000 Just as many of Trump's supporters convinced themselves that the Biden campaign stole the 2020 election from their candidate, Democrats have found comfort in explanations for their failures that place the blame on others.
00:57:57.000 But Clinton's 2016 defeat, in fact, was the culmination of a slow decay that first took hold within the Democratic Party half a century ago.
00:58:06.000 So, none of these problems are being addressed.
00:58:08.000 None of the scrutiny that's being applied to Trump, and even if Trump goes, and is he authoritarian, and what will he do if he wins in 2024?
00:58:15.000 No one's saying, should we have a look at this party that we're unquestioningly supporting 24 hours a day?
00:58:20.000 What are they doing?
00:58:22.000 What have they done?
00:58:23.000 If this guy's so bad, why is it that we have to ban him in order to defeat him?
00:58:27.000 Surely you would just go, do you want this guy?
00:58:29.000 Or, you know, like, apparently he's so bloody charismatic, intoxicating and alluring, you can't even show him giving a polite appraisal of an Iowa caucus without all of us sort of losing our minds and follow him into the forests.
00:58:41.000 The Democrats today are increasingly becoming a party of upwardly mobile professionals and creatives.
00:58:46.000 The party has shed much of its traditional working class base, which has started to show up in its legislative priorities.
00:58:52.000 When you look at that panel of people, do you think, oh, these are working class Americans.
00:58:57.000 These speak to ordinary working class people.
00:59:00.000 You see Rachel Maddow or Jen Psaki.
00:59:01.000 I don't know anything about their backgrounds.
00:59:02.000 They might be from blue collar backgrounds.
00:59:04.000 They might.
00:59:04.000 But they don't appear to be talking about, I don't know, The white working class exodus from the party has been particularly severe, putting states like Ohio, which former President Barack Obama won twice, out of reach for the party.
00:59:15.000 American people. The white working-class exodus from the party has been
00:59:19.000 particularly severe, putting states like Ohio, which former President Barack
00:59:22.000 Obama won twice, out of reach for the party. In 2020, less than a third of white
00:59:27.000 working men, the very backbone of the old New Deal coalition, voted for Biden. And
00:59:31.000 that was an improvement over the meager 23% of white working men who backed
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01:01:40.000 In the 1990s, the Democrats were in free fall.
01:01:43.000 After losing the biggest landslide election in American history to Reagan, they had suffered 12 straight years of Republican control of the White House.
01:01:50.000 Much of their industrial white working class base had defected to the GOP, alienated both by the cultural radicalism of the new left professional activists who had commandeered the party's intellectual infrastructure and by a democratic economic ideology that was increasingly indistinguishable from that of the Republicans.
01:02:06.000 I think we all remember that Bill Clinton primarily became like, look, it's going to be basically the same steps.
01:02:11.000 I've got a saxophone and there's going to be some crazy stuff going on in the Oval Office, kids.
01:02:17.000 Desperate for a new strategy, Democratic operatives formed a centrist pro-business network called the Democratic Leadership Council to build the Democrats back into a nationally competitive political party again.
01:02:28.000 Similar things happened in our country under Pony Blair and similarly it's created a kind of homogenized political space where no one feels that they really identify, I think, with either party.
01:02:37.000 I don't think there's anyone that's passionate about like I really love them.
01:02:40.000 There is no British equivalent to Trump, even, where you'd go, oh, this guy really is speaking to ordinary British people.
01:02:47.000 It's just a banalised space of career politicians who you feel would prefer to be at Davos than in Parliament.
01:02:53.000 The DLC sought to co-opt the Republicans on economic growth and free trade while countering the New Left's radicalising influence on the party's social and cultural agenda.
01:03:02.000 The DLC found a perfect champion in Bill Clinton, when he wasn't on holiday.
01:03:06.000 Clinton was a free market true believer with enough affinity to the politics of the 60s to bring the new democratic intelligentsia under his wing.
01:03:14.000 As a candidate that corporate CEOs and former student revolutionaries alike could get behind, Clinton forged a new electoral majority and brought the Democrats back into the White House.
01:03:24.000 And from an outsider's perspective, it seemed like, oh, this guy is really charismatic and good in front of a camera and people seem to like him, rather than this person is invested in serving American people.
01:03:34.000 It was part of the show businessification of American and subsequently British politics.
01:03:40.000 Where, oh, as long as you've got someone who's good on camera and sounds all right, it doesn't really matter what they believe in.
01:03:45.000 And I think that Clinton was like that.
01:03:46.000 Obama's like that.
01:03:48.000 In our country, Blair's like that.
01:03:49.000 They say a bunch of stuff and seem kind of lovely when you're looking at them and listening to them.
01:03:52.000 And then it comes to, like, the 2008 crash and they're like, Wall Street, we're on your side, baby.
01:03:57.000 And that has made ordinary people think...
01:04:00.000 I don't trust this lot.
01:04:01.000 Donald Trump, as Dave Chappelle is fond of saying, came out and goes, you know that stuff you think we're doing in there?
01:04:05.000 That is what we're doing.
01:04:06.000 I know all these tax loopholes because I use them.
01:04:08.000 He said, I know the system is rigged because I use it.
01:04:11.000 I said, God damn!
01:04:14.000 All of her donors use them.
01:04:15.000 You're like, oh my God, this is amazing.
01:04:17.000 If you can't see why that would be appealing after the preceding 20 or 30 years, then that's a deep strain of myopia that is much more likely the problem than Donald Trump's evident charisma.
01:04:28.000 In office, however, Clinton bungled his careful balancing act.
01:04:31.000 In his campaign, he had purported to speak for the forgotten middle class.
01:04:34.000 But as president, he seemed to speak more loudly for Wall Street.
01:04:37.000 He pushed for NAFTA, the founding of the World Trade Organization, financial deregulation, and permanent normal trade relations with China.
01:04:45.000 China.
01:04:45.000 China.
01:04:46.000 In part, thanks to Republican overreach, Clinton persevered through two terms in the White House.
01:04:51.000 But his new Democrat rebrand did nothing to bring white working class voters back to the party.
01:04:55.000 Eight years later, Barack Obama met and even surpassed Clinton's electoral success, but likewise failed to stem the blue-collar bleeding for the long term.
01:05:03.000 And again, in office, doubled down on the betrayal of ordinary people, legislated for and governed for elite and establishment interests.
01:05:11.000 And the kind of perspective that you probably have and I have is You can't trust these people.
01:05:15.000 And when Rachel Maddow says they're anti-political candidates, that's why that's happened.
01:05:19.000 Because I made my bones publicly in my country, the UK, saying there's no point voting for anyone on a political TV show.
01:05:26.000 You can't trust any of them.
01:05:27.000 They're all the same.
01:05:27.000 I basically said that.
01:05:28.000 Why vote?
01:05:29.000 We know it's not going to make any difference.
01:05:30.000 We know that already.
01:05:31.000 I say when there is a genuine alternative, a genuine option, then vote for that.
01:05:36.000 But until then...
01:05:37.000 Don't bother.
01:05:37.000 There was a lot of outrage and controversy around it at the time, absurdly enough, but now I know we are the biggest constituency.
01:05:44.000 Elsewhere in there, Rachel Maddow says that America is made up of Republicans and Democrats.
01:05:47.000 No, it isn't.
01:05:48.000 People are just like, oh, is this what we've got to deal with?
01:05:51.000 That's why RFK is polling so spectacularly, because there's a significant number of people in your country, in my country, and I think across the world, that want something actually different.
01:06:00.000 Obama twice ran on an even more explicitly populist message than Clinton, but like Clinton, staffed his cabinet and administration with Wall Street ideologues.
01:06:08.000 We've seen that happen again and again.
01:06:10.000 We've seen people under Biden from Big Pharma getting jobs, from Wall Street getting jobs, from Big Tech getting jobs, and all these contracts being awarded.
01:06:16.000 We know what the game is now.
01:06:18.000 That's the real problem.
01:06:19.000 This is why I think Rachel Maddow and the legacy media have to amplify the hysteria, because so many of us now go, yeah, but it doesn't really make any difference, you can't trust any of these people, they're all in the clutches of establishment interests.
01:06:30.000 And now we have to go, no, no, the democratic does mean something.
01:06:33.000 Congress does mean something.
01:06:35.000 Don't you dare invade the Capitol.
01:06:37.000 They have to sort of invest it with meaning because the meaning is drained out of it because of conduct, because of behavior, because of history, because of what we've all seen.
01:06:43.000 This betrayal was even starker than it was with his predecessor, coming as it did in the immediate wake of the global financial collapse.
01:06:50.000 Obama prosecuted no high-level financial executives for the crimes that led to the meltdown, and allowed his Wall Street advisors to mismanage his economic recovery plans.
01:06:58.000 Unlike Clinton, he succeeded in creating the Democrats' long-sought universal health insurance program, but the law was a barely coherent patchwork of regulations written by healthcare lobbyists, which provided inadequate subsidies and drove up premiums for millions of middle-class Americans who weren't covered by their employers.
01:07:13.000 Again and again you hear pledges and promises made.
01:07:16.000 We beat Big Pharma this year.
01:07:17.000 We beat Big Pharma this year.
01:07:18.000 We beat Pharma this year!
01:07:20.000 And then you find out that what it means is a few drugs are going to be capped from 2025 or whatever.
01:07:25.000 Or that no one is prosecuted for Wall Street.
01:07:28.000 Or healthcare is actually quite sort of temperate really.
01:07:31.000 In a sense, the meaning has drained out of the type of politics that Rachel Maddow is advocating for.
01:07:37.000 So anyone that is anti that is more appealing.
01:07:40.000 That's my analysis.
01:07:41.000 And that's why the results are in every single district in Iowa against Ron DeSantis and Nikki Haley, Donald Trump all the way.
01:07:47.000 And based on that, he's going to be the candidate.
01:07:50.000 And I would say similarly, based on that and looking at the total lack of trust in Joe Biden, even among Democrat voters, 69% of them say that Biden does not have the mental sharpness to be president.
01:08:00.000 It's unlikely that Biden can beat Trump fairly.
01:08:04.000 Hillary Clinton shared Obama's reverence for Wall Street, but none of his talent for pretending to be a populist.
01:08:09.000 Indeed, she didn't even try.
01:08:11.000 Instead, she ran a campaign that was explicitly scornful of white working class voters, maligning them as racist and misogynist.
01:08:17.000 In sharp contrast to Obama's unifying message, Clinton directly appealed to the identity-based grievances of various constituency groups largely centered in the prosperous post-industrial metropolitan regions of the country.
01:08:28.000 While accusing her opponent Donald Trump of campaigning on hate, she ran the most polarizing campaign in living memory.
01:08:34.000 Clinton rallied the educated professionals of the new American knowledge economy to her side by leading their culture war against the denizens of the dying manufacturing towns and agricultural rural and ex-urban swathes of the country that had been emptied of jobs and stripped of community and social purpose by decades of deindustrialisation championed by both parties.
01:08:53.000 In that paragraph, you get an economic understanding of the social realities that have led to Donald Trump's rise and the deterioration of the Democrat Party.
01:09:02.000 And in a character like Clinton, with her inability to reach people through charisma,
01:09:05.000 the problem becomes calcified because prior to her, there was Obama and Clinton, Bill
01:09:10.000 Clinton, who knew how to perform on camera, and Donald Trump knows how to do that.
01:09:15.000 And if you look at even his Iowa victory speech, it looks like he's adopting a more conciliatory
01:09:20.000 tone, and I would suggest learning the lessons of the Robert F. Kennedy campaign, that there's
01:09:24.000 a lot of anti-establishment people out there that aren't down with the high revs, argh
01:09:29.000 type of aggressive populist politics, but are open for a kind of convivial, conciliatory,
01:09:35.000 statesman-like return to anti-establishment populism that's somewhat more inclusive.
01:09:41.000 Certainly that seemed like a different side of Donald Trump in that speech.
01:09:43.000 She couldn't have been a more useful foil for Trump if she had tried.
01:09:47.000 While frequently spilling over into hyperbole or even outright bigotry, Trump merely played the other side of the culture war Clinton was waging.
01:09:54.000 He lambasted the professional class's moral crusades on immigration, race and criminal justice as cynically as Clinton celebrated them.
01:10:01.000 But he also excoriated the free market orthodoxies of both parties, a critique that resonated with every working and middle class voter who had lived through the Great Recession.
01:10:11.000 Trump embraced protectionism and an industrial policy to restore American manufacturing.
01:10:16.000 He rallied against the cultural elites, especially their loudest spokespeople in the media.
01:10:21.000 And white working-class voters, including ones who had voted twice for Obama, rewarded him for it.
01:10:26.000 This isn't the kind of analysis that you see on legacy media, is it?
01:10:30.000 Because it's inconvenient.
01:10:31.000 And one of the things I've had cause to reflect on lately is Albert Maisel's famous claim that tyranny is the deliberate removal of nuance.
01:10:38.000 Well, the nuance is always stripped away in this new puritanical establishment legacy media propagandist machine.
01:10:45.000 When they're talking about Trump, He's dangerous.
01:10:47.000 He's racist.
01:10:48.000 He's awful.
01:10:49.000 They don't describe the circumstances of his rise.
01:10:51.000 They don't describe his appeal.
01:10:52.000 They don't describe their own culpability.
01:10:54.000 They don't describe why they cannot amend and adjust because of their affiliations and funding and because of lobbying and because they're ultimately owned by financial interests comparable to the financial interests that have traditionally owned the Republican Party.
01:11:06.000 They can't have those conversations.
01:11:08.000 So there's nothing they can do except continually condemn Donald Trump, continually lambast Anyone who might be interested in Donald Trump's appeal without ever addressing the causes of this problem.
01:11:19.000 It was principally Trump's mishandling of the coronavirus pandemic that led to his loss to Joe Biden, who in his campaign distanced himself from the avant-garde professional class social justice politics that had come to dominate his party.
01:11:30.000 Democrats hope that Biden's everyman appeal might win back some working class voters to the party.
01:11:36.000 That hasn't happened.
01:11:37.000 In fact, now the Democrats are losing non-white working class voters.
01:11:41.000 Every election cycle, Democrats lose more and more of this demographic.
01:11:45.000 Despite his virulently anti-immigrant rhetoric between 2016 and 2020, Trump gained support among Latino voters.
01:11:52.000 Joe Biden did 16 points worse among Latinos than Hillary Clinton had four years earlier.
01:11:57.000 The Democrats have an increasingly tenuous hold on the Asian vote, and their support even from black non-college educated voters has begun to slip.
01:12:05.000 As of last summer, Biden fell short of earning the support of a majority of non-white voters without a college degree.
01:12:11.000 A third of these voters prefer Trump.
01:12:13.000 Today, the Democrats and the Republicans are virtually tied in voters' perception of which party is best for the middle class.
01:12:19.000 Americans as a whole no longer take the Democrats for granted as the party that fights for ordinary people and are just as likely to regard the Republicans as such.
01:12:27.000 This is a historical sea change.
01:12:29.000 So you have a historical result in Iowa, where Donald Trump, the most indicted president in history, is on the rise.
01:12:37.000 You have a Democrat party that is flailing.
01:12:39.000 You have a legacy media that is unwilling and unable to offer a mere culper.
01:12:44.000 You have a Democrat party that's unwilling to give a meaningful and viable candidate.
01:12:49.000 At this point.
01:12:50.000 So the way things look after the Iowa caucus is Trump victory 2024.
01:12:55.000 But that's just what I think.
01:12:56.000 Let me know what you think in the chat.
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