Stay Free - Russel Brand - Anthony Fauci Exposed: The Truth Behind His Rise to Power – SF526

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00:02:22.000 Hello there, you awakening wonders.

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00:02:33.000 Stay free with Russell Brand.

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00:02:43.000 Today, I've got so many stories about vaccines that are mind-bending.

00:02:48.000 Sort of, in a sense, it's inspired by Andrew Schultz's viral video where he just said, what have I got on my arm, man?

00:02:53.000 But we've got some unique new reporting from Ashley Rinsberg on the LA Times' relationship.

00:03:00.000 With vaccines and how they propagate it.

00:03:02.000 It's a brilliant story.

00:03:03.000 You should follow Ashley, by the way.

00:03:05.000 He's the Elzerah on the screen and the link to his things in description.

00:03:08.000 I mean, like his Substack or whatever, however he wants to be followed.

00:03:11.000 Hey! 0.99

00:03:11.000 In a minute, I'll be talking to Jenner first about his film about Anthony Fauci. 0.99

00:03:17.000 I feel like across the world, the pandemic issue is coming home to roost.

00:03:22.000 Even as Trump talks at the WEF, even as, you know, contradictorily he pulls out of the WHO, I feel that we're getting the reckoning that the pandemic warranted.

00:03:33.000 The pandemic means, by its nature, it was across the world.

00:03:36.000 What better way to understand and assess globalism than that?

00:03:39.000 One phenomena that affected everyone simultaneously.

00:03:42.000 I think that's why it was...

00:03:45.000 I'm going to be talking to Jenna First, brilliant filmmaker, about his Anthony Fauci film.

00:03:50.000 What's interesting about him, by the way, is he was going to direct a hagiography about Fauci, like every late-night talk show, saying how fantastic Fauci is, but he's ended up making a film that shows the darkness of Anthony Fauci, and I know you're going to love that.

00:04:06.000 Before we get into talking to Jenna First...

00:04:09.000 Let's now look at Andrew Schultz talking about Fauci's pardon.

00:04:14.000 Because, obviously, if you've done nothing wrong, you don't need a pardon.

00:04:20.000 But Fauci took the pardon.

00:04:22.000 Fauci could say, I don't want the pardon, I don't think I did anything wrong.

00:04:25.000 But he took the pardon.

00:04:27.000 I'm not blaming anybody for taking a pardon.

00:04:29.000 I do, because now you're guilty.

00:04:31.000 Because there are a lot of people that were on the January 6th committee.

00:04:34.000 They were offered a pardon, and they said no.

00:04:36.000 They're like, I did my job.

00:04:37.000 I was supposed to investigate this.

00:04:39.000 I didn't know that.

00:04:40.000 That's good that some people on the Jan 6th committee rejected the pardon because why do you need a pardon if you're innocent, which undermines the entire premise of these preemptive pardons, which I suppose is, oh no, when Trump comes in, he's going to vilify, condemn, and lock up his political enemies.

00:04:55.000 We're going to give you preemptive pardons to protect you.

00:04:58.000 That's the only defense for giving out these pardons.

00:05:00.000 Otherwise, it looks like...

00:05:01.000 You needed these pardons because you've done something wrong.

00:05:04.000 There are so many things that we see said now that would have been inconceivable at the height of the pandemic, and for good reason, because now we know that one of his last acts in office, in addition to pardoning Fauci, was for Joe Biden to give Moderna a near $600 million deal.

00:05:23.000 Most of us are deeply cynical about the relationship between Big Pharma, the state, and the media.

00:05:29.000 The fact is though that it isn't just in the issue of vaccines or even the pandemic more broadly where the relationship between the state A large corporation and the media are the defining triumvirate of relationships that control all of our lives.

00:05:44.000 That's why the pandemic was so important.

00:05:45.000 That's why I'll be talking to Jenna first in a little while about his film about Anthony Fauci.

00:05:51.000 Firstly, this is some reporting by Ashley Rinsberg.

00:05:55.000 You can follow him at Substack.

00:05:56.000 There's his details.

00:05:57.000 This is fascinating, if you ask me, because what I like about this is, let me just show you this.

00:06:04.000 During the pandemic, The LA Times was extremely favourable and supportive in the way they reported on the pandemic, generally demanding compliance from most of us and supporting government edicts, if not mandates.

00:06:21.000 Let's get into the story.

00:06:22.000 A farmer billionaire has turned one of America's largest newspapers, the Los Angeles Times, into a pawn in his vaccine empire.

00:06:30.000 Patrick Soon-Shiong, the South African-born billionaire physician, bought the LA Times in 2018 for $500.

00:06:36.000 $500 million, otherwise.

00:06:38.000 I mean, the LA Times is not a very good newspaper, but we're talking millions here, not like 500 bucks.

00:06:44.000 At the time, he claimed it was about preserving journalism's role in a free society.

00:06:48.000 But what he's done with the papers suggests something else entirely.

00:06:51.000 People, I've got this incredible tendency to pretend that what they're doing is beneficial.

00:06:55.000 I'm buying the LA Times.

00:06:56.000 Why?

00:06:57.000 To help society.

00:06:58.000 What are you actually doing it for?

00:07:00.000 Well, you'll find out.

00:07:02.000 Sun Xiong also owns Immunity Bio.

00:07:05.000 You only bought Immunity Bio to help humanity.

00:07:08.000 Stop claiming everything you do to help humanity when it appears that you've got more nefarious ends intended.

00:07:13.000 A biotech company developing the next generation of vaccines, including a universal booster for COVID. It's not enough that we all have to get COVID, chaps. 1.00

00:07:21.000 Now the universe has to have one.

00:07:23.000 It's a hybrid vaccine combining RNA and DNA technologies designed to stimulate both antibodies and T-cells.

00:07:31.000 In short, Sun Xiong is deeply invested in the vaccine game and is using the LA Times to push that agenda.

00:07:37.000 On one hand, we had incredible censorship.

00:07:39.000 We all remember that.

00:07:40.000 True claims around vaccine injury were censored.

00:07:44.000 True concerns about an incorrectly or inadequately trialled vaccine were censored.

00:07:50.000 People questioning government policy were censored.

00:07:53.000 Meanwhile, ludicrously and outrageously, we saw the amplification of the government's message through even the LA Times, and now we're beginning to understand why.

00:08:04.000 Powerfully amplified and pressed the government's agenda.

00:08:07.000 Just think, you've probably forgotten just how much propaganda there was.

00:08:10.000 We saw Stephen Colbert dressed as vaccines.

00:08:14.000 We saw the late-night James Corden show, people dancing in the streets celebrating Fauci.

00:08:19.000 We saw hip-hop songs, gay songs, country songs, Christian songs.

00:08:28.000 John Legend had a go, didn't he?

00:08:30.000 Like people showing you in public.

00:08:32.000 There you go.

00:08:33.000 Right?

00:08:34.000 So they were clearly trying to significantly warp our perspective of vaccines.

00:08:40.000 And this is a very specific example of how that went down.

00:08:44.000 Of course, we're going to be looking at the fact that right up to the minute he left office, Biden was still funneling money towards Moderna.

00:08:51.000 And British Al Fauci...

00:08:53.000 I call him that.

00:08:54.000 The British Fauci was Chris Whitty.

00:08:56.000 And Chris Whitty had admitted that the vaccine deployment was a 100% political decision.

00:09:01.000 So in the end, together, what you get is an assessment of how globalism and global corruption in particular works.

00:09:08.000 One centralised edict to legitimise it through crisis, measures of control, opportunity for profit.

00:09:14.000 Lovely little gig if you can get it.

00:09:16.000 Let's crack on with this dude.

00:09:17.000 Under his ownership, we're talking about Sun Xiong.

00:09:20.000 Under his ownership, the Times became one of the most hardline pro-vaccine voices in the media.

00:09:26.000 In 2021, the editorial published pieces like, It's time to get tough on vaccine evaders.

00:09:32.000 Let's have a look at that.

00:09:33.000 Oh, this one's bring the mandates, yeah, and get tough.

00:09:36.000 And what's this one here?

00:09:37.000 There's no absolute right to refuse vaccination.

00:09:41.000 Would the LA Times, where do they stand on abortion?

00:09:45.000 I know it's common to draw the comparison between bodily autonomy when it comes to vaccine and bodily autonomy when it comes to abortion.

00:09:54.000 And it's extraordinary that one half of the political conversation is dedicated to the idea that you should be forced to have vaccines, but you should never be prevented from terminating a pregnancy.

00:10:08.000 Those are...

00:10:09.000 I don't know, you can explain to me in the comments and chat how those aren't contradictory concepts, but what's fascinating is to see how an organisation like the LA Times, most of us know it's absolute cod's wallet, is still somewhat regarded as a significant LA legacy media asset.

00:10:27.000 Bring on the COVID vaccination mandates.

00:10:28.000 The paper even argued there's no absolute right to refuse vaccination.

00:10:32.000 They were relentless in promoting vaccines and vilifying those who hesitate.

00:10:36.000 Also, by the way, saying there's no absolute right to deny vaccinations, that's a very strong position to take.

00:10:42.000 You're saying the state should be able to control you right down to that level.

00:10:46.000 And that kind of exposes statism, doesn't it?

00:10:49.000 Generally speaking, you would accept that if you're staying in America, I've got to buy American rules, I've got to drive at the speed limit.

00:10:55.000 But if you analyse it, you will see great state encroachment over all your actions and activities.

00:11:02.000 The agenda of the state is control, and in the end, in pursuit of control, they will legitimise.

00:11:07.000 Any measures necessary and will potentially participate in crisis, if not welcome crisis.

00:11:14.000 Let's just not assume malevolence where incompetence will do.

00:11:18.000 They will certainly exploit various crises.

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00:13:21.000 Thanks for joining me today for Stay Free with Russell Brand.

00:13:24.000 We're in the middle of talking about Sun Xiong, the proprietor of the LA Times, who used his position to propagate a variety of messages.

00:13:32.000 In a minute I'm going to be talking to Jenna first, distinguished American documentary filmmaker and producer who's made a fantastic film called Thank You, Dr. Fauci.

00:13:41.000 And I think it might be a sarcastic thank you at this stage.

00:13:46.000 Now listen to this.

00:13:46.000 You would imagine that vacillations in perspective would not be common.

00:13:50.000 They certainly are.

00:13:51.000 Sun Xiong made waves on a podcast where he praised Bobby Kennedy, a long-time critic of COVID vaccines.

00:13:57.000 I mean, this is one of the extraordinary vicissitudes of the recent election.

00:14:01.000 The idea that Bobby Kennedy, who was once a person that I'd have been nervous of talking about because of his position on autism and vaccines, which we're now going to have to recognise there isn't significant clinical data to prove that there is no connection between autism and vaccines, because what they always say is...

00:14:18.000 There's never been a proper fight.

00:14:19.000 Anyway, what I'm sort of saying is that Bobby Kennedy is now a confirmation pending In a position of significant power.

00:14:27.000 So notice that old Sun Xiong and his ilk are willing to bend the knee temporarily.

00:14:33.000 Let me know in the comments in chat how surprised you've been to see various billionaires and tech oligarchs lining up beside Trump, showing in a way that there are no real principles behind their positions.

00:14:43.000 It's simply expedient positions to take in order to get into positions of domination.

00:14:49.000 Before we continue with the LA Times article, this is a brilliant conversation.

00:14:55.000 Between a CNBC news anchor and former FDA commissioner, now Pfizer board member, Scott Gottlieb.

00:15:02.000 See how these things work?

00:15:04.000 One minute, you're running the FDA, the Food and Drug Administration, and the next minute, you are working at Pfizer.

00:15:11.000 It's a topsy-turvy, crazy world out there.

00:15:14.000 Note, I tweeted this out.

00:15:15.000 A friend of mine, and if you're watching, I love you, diagnosed stage 3 cancer yesterday.

00:15:21.000 This is a fantastic clip because...

00:15:24.000 A short while ago, in the glory days of the LA Times, where they were happily lying about moral positions of whether or not you should be out of control of your own body, it would have been inconceivable that someone would, on mainstream media, be able to even raise the question that there's a link between the rise in turbo cancers and all-cause mortality and vaccines.

00:15:45.000 But now, that is happening.

00:15:47.000 Close family members of mine have had it.

00:15:49.000 Another buddy of mine just had a stroke.

00:15:51.000 He's non-verbal now.

00:15:53.000 A buddy of mine was in a hospital for three days, just got out yesterday or two days ago, RSV pneumonia.

00:15:58.000 I know I'm getting older.

00:15:59.000 I know we're all getting older.

00:16:02.000 Is it just me or is everybody sick?

00:16:04.000 Like, the level of RSV, pneumonia, all this stuff going around.

00:16:07.000 You're having a mad moment on the TV. Is it just me or is everything falling apart?

00:16:10.000 Everyone I know is sick.

00:16:11.000 My dog don't even love me! 0.96

00:16:13.000 Pneumonia, all this stuff going around.

00:16:15.000 Strokes, breast cancer, the New York Times.

00:16:17.000 No, he's making a good point there.

00:16:18.000 There has been an incredible...

00:16:19.000 And measurable rise in heart disease and in cancers and in all cause mortality.

00:16:26.000 So this man hasn't just fallen into a well of melancholy.

00:16:29.000 He simply observed that everybody is sick.

00:16:32.000 Story on breast cancer spiking.

00:16:34.000 Doctor, can you give us an answer as to why?

00:16:36.000 Because you know where I'm going with this.

00:16:38.000 A lot of people point to COVID and maybe even the COVID vaccine because they don't know.

00:16:42.000 What is it?

00:16:42.000 Yeah, look, we don't know is the answer.

00:16:44.000 Some cancers are going up, you're right, colon cancer in particular.

00:16:48.000 Former FDA commissioner, look, we don't know, we don't know.

00:16:51.000 What we do know is I used to work...

00:16:53.000 At the FDA, as it said.

00:16:55.000 Now I work at Pfizer.

00:16:56.000 It's almost as if deals get done between organizations like Pfizer and government agencies, and it could be part of the nature of such deals that our intentions and agenda are so entwined that were vaccines causing cancer and contributing to all-cause mortality, all of us would...

00:17:12.000 Agree to keep that matter secret no matter what.

00:17:16.000 And in a crazy age where the JFK files are finally being released, I bet they keep a bit of it back, then you may, you can certainly assume you won't be getting the truth about Pfizer anytime soon.

00:17:27.000 Particularly the incidence has been going up, particularly in young people.

00:17:30.000 Especially under 30, yep.

00:17:30.000 Right.

00:17:31.000 So we don't understand that.

00:17:32.000 Some people believe it's related to changes in the U.S. diet.

00:17:35.000 As far as the infectious...

00:17:37.000 Big food on the phone!

00:17:38.000 Don't you dare say that's connected to changes in diet!

00:17:42.000 Big farm river.

00:17:43.000 Don't you say that that's vaccines?

00:17:45.000 Big agriculture.

00:17:46.000 Don't you say we're using pesticides in the soil?

00:17:48.000 Is there anything I can say?

00:17:50.000 Is there anything I can do?

00:17:51.000 Or do you want to own every single molecule in my body and adjust those molecules to make me more compliant?

00:17:55.000 Oh, yeah, no.

00:17:56.000 Can we do that?

00:17:57.000 Actually, yeah, we can.

00:17:57.000 We're going to be doing that as well.

00:17:58.000 It's just disease that's going around.

00:18:00.000 We have had a difficult season with flu, with COVID, with RSV. Those rates look like they're coming down.

00:18:05.000 People are clumsy.

00:18:06.000 It snowed in Florida.

00:18:07.000 You slip, you fall, you bang your head, you...

00:18:10.000 ...developed myocarditis.

00:18:11.000 ...coming down across most of the country right now, with the exception of norovirus, which is still going up.

00:18:16.000 The strain of norovirus that's...

00:18:18.000 I'm eagerly pretending to care about people's health when he's just gone from the FDA to Pfizer and worried about people with the neurovirus.

00:18:24.000 Is it me?

00:18:25.000 Or is that the other guy on the other side of the table?

00:18:26.000 Is it me or has everyone got neurovirus?

00:18:28.000 Is everybody sick and got cancer?

00:18:30.000 The neurovirus that's circulating right now is a new strain, so a lot of people probably don't have baseline immunity to it, and that's why you've seen so many people getting it and so many people getting sick.

00:18:39.000 That's about the incidence of neurovirus right now is probably 2x what it was in the last five years.

00:18:45.000 Try and show off saying 2x about neurovirus.

00:18:48.000 Tell us the truth for you, slip reel.

00:18:50.000 It's not so long ago that the media amplified and propagandised for those vaccines.

00:18:56.000 Clearly, over the next 18 months, maybe as part of the early Trump movement, administration now, plainly, we'll start to get revelations and facts that will help us to understand exactly what went on.

00:19:08.000 But was he here, Ashley Rindberg, in his reporting as...

00:19:11.000 He exposed some of the sinew that undergirded the policies of that era.

00:19:17.000 Now, I told you that he was praising Bobby Kennedy.

00:19:21.000 Where he praised Bobby Kennedy, a long-time critic of COVID vaccines.

00:19:25.000 Soon Sean called RFK all about the science and claimed Kennedy understands the subject better than most doctors.

00:19:30.000 This is coming from the man who owns a paper that called RFK's health policies a catastrophe.

00:19:35.000 I'm going to surprise you.

00:19:36.000 I like Bobby Kennedy.

00:19:39.000 So what's going on?

00:19:40.000 Let's connect the dots.

00:19:41.000 In 2022, Sun Xiong opened a $200 million vaccine manufacturing facility in South Africa.

00:19:46.000 What's he up to, this guy?

00:19:48.000 He's a crafty little character, aiming to produce a billion doses by 2025. Let's have a look at him.

00:19:54.000 Celebrating that.

00:19:55.000 Oh, Sun Xiong.

00:19:56.000 Oh, look, he's wearing a mask.

00:19:57.000 He can't rely on this geezer. 0.98

00:19:59.000 Oh, look at the size of those scissors that other man's got. 1.00

00:20:02.000 And why is their logo a feather in a circle?

00:20:04.000 What are they trying to tell us?

00:20:06.000 We can't trust them.

00:20:07.000 Not a single one of them.

00:20:08.000 Sun Xiong isn't just flipping the script on RFK. He's also rebranding the LA Times.

00:20:13.000 Last year, he stirred controversy by blocking the paper from endorsing Kamala Harris for president.

00:20:17.000 He's pledged to add a bias meter to the Times website and he's launching a health podcast.

00:20:21.000 It all looks like a calculator player to...

00:20:23.000 I get it.

00:20:29.000 Keep an eye.

00:20:42.000 On this one.

00:20:43.000 As a fantastic bit of report in there from Ashley Rinsberg.

00:20:46.000 Follow him on X and look him up on Substack.

00:20:50.000 Because what that does is it reveals to us that the expedient convenience of powerful media magnates who likely have conflicts of interest directed public policy when it came to a significant issue, perhaps the most significant post-war issue, the pandemic, perhaps the most significant post-war issue, the pandemic, where we recognise that globalism is real.

00:21:10.000 Ashley Rinsberg there has shown us how some of the component parts came together.

00:21:14.000 We're beginning to understand now the power of not only professional politicians like Anthony Fauci, and we'll be talking to Jenna first in a minute about his new film.

00:21:23.000 Thank you, Dr. Fauci.

00:21:25.000 But before that, and to conclude this special on vaccines, note that while leaving it...

00:21:31.000 While leaving office, Joe Biden almost flung an emergency $600 million of funding at Moderna.

00:21:40.000 Like, I saw one of his last desperate acts, pardoning Fauci, pardoning his kids, pardoning everybody that he's ever met, pardoning people who don't need pardons.

00:21:48.000 He also flung $600 million, or at least his administration did, in the direction of Moderna.

00:21:54.000 He is British, Anthony Fauci, if you can imagine such a thing, saying...

00:21:58.000 That the deployment of vaccines was 100% a political decision.

00:22:02.000 Why that's a crazy thing to say is it was supposed to be a medical decision.

00:22:06.000 If it's a medical decision, it's a personal decision, particularly if it's never been clinically trialled for transmission.

00:22:10.000 The whole thing, therefore, was propaganda and an early indicator that...

00:22:15.000 Global powers, sets of political, state, interests and corporate, commercial powers are colluding to ensure that a series of crises will be used to prohibit and limit your freedom.

00:22:26.000 Let me know in the comments in chat what you think they'll do next and what this A-I-M-R-N-A technology is likely to contribute to that power. 0.99

00:22:35.000 Here's Chris Whitty saying that vaccines was 100% a political decision.

00:22:41.000 VCOD, vaccine as a condition of deployment.

00:22:46.000 In England, it had two aspects.

00:22:48.000 One, the policy which was actually put into place of vaccines.

00:22:52.000 I had such a long break out of the inquiry.

00:22:54.000 They were doing that, like, last year.

00:22:55.000 They've had months off from that.

00:22:56.000 I remember that bloke now.

00:22:58.000 Like, he don't get to the point.

00:22:59.000 He's like, okay, so look, tell me why it wasn't that bad and we can just blame a couple of bad apples for all this.

00:23:07.000 Vaccine is a condition of deployment for persons working in care homes, and then subsequently there was a proposal to widen it out to the wider care and healthcare sector.

00:23:19.000 Was that an issue which ultimately was for the chief medical officer, and it's obvious that you gave advice, and I'm not going to go into the details of the advice, or was it ultimately a political decision for ministers?

00:23:33.000 My view is it was 100% a political decision.

00:23:36.000 But there was some clinical information that needed to proceed it.

00:23:42.000 But ultimately, it's about essentially balancing two risks and rights against one another, the risk to an individual who's highly vulnerable being cared for by someone who, because they haven't got a vaccine, then has an infection and then passes it on.

00:23:59.000 Oh, that's amazing, because it's not clinically trialled for transmission, it never was.

00:24:04.000 They're not even claiming that the vaccine would prevent you from giving it to another person, but that the vaccine might have prevented you from getting COVID in the first place and therefore protecting other people and therefore being a social duty and obligation.

00:24:17.000 But let me ask this.

00:24:19.000 Is there anyone out there watching this that obediently and regrettably, like Andrew Schultz, took that vaccine and then...

00:24:26.000 Got COVID anyway!

00:24:28.000 Did you ever hear of that happening?

00:24:29.000 Like...

00:24:30.000 Alright, there you go then.

00:24:31.000 So the whole argument is moot.

00:24:34.000 So that's the risk to the person who's been cared for versus the risk to the individual that they're right.

00:24:40.000 That's the whole argument of having a state, is where do the common interests impede on individual freedom?

00:24:47.000 That's one philosophical question.

00:24:48.000 And then the next one is, do you trust the state to aggregate and calculate where your individual freedoms and the freedom of a community align?

00:24:56.000 And the other question is, no I don't!

00:24:58.000 And neither do you!

00:24:59.000 We don't want the state having that power.

00:25:01.000 That should be your power and God's power.

00:25:03.000 And if your power is not informed by God, you'll make terrible choices.

00:25:06.000 I can tell you that from personal experience.

00:25:08.000 But that doesn't mean that you should give it to the state and pretend that the state is a kind of God.

00:25:11.000 This isn't the crazy way they talk.

00:25:12.000 That's the first time I've understood, though.

00:25:14.000 If you get a vaccine, yeah, then you might not get COVID. Well, don't people get COVID anyway?

00:25:20.000 Yes, yes, but that's not the point.

00:25:21.000 So, therefore, if you saw an old and vulnerable person who's also had the vaccine...

00:25:26.000 And, you know, that should prevent them getting COVID, you might think, because that's how you're claiming the vaccine works.

00:25:31.000 Well then, that person won't get COVID from you because you've...

00:25:35.000 Got the vaccine, haven't you? 0.99

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00:25:40.000 Well, alright, I did get the vaccine and I still got COVID. Then I saw that person who had also had the vaccine and they still got COVID. And they died a couple of years later of myocarditis.

00:25:49.000 So it's beginning to sound like the whole thing was based on dubious science at best and malfeasance at worst.

00:25:55.000 And not actually worse, because totally the worst would be...

00:25:57.000 The whole concoction...

00:26:00.000 Was an attempt to experiment with how much power could be asserted without significant resistance.

00:26:06.000 The resistance came, though, and it was diffuse and peculiar and primarily originated out of independent media.

00:26:12.000 Most of us recall the epochal moment where we saw, say, Robert Malone on Joe Rogan.

00:26:17.000 Joe Rogan, let's face it, was pretty sensual during this time.

00:26:20.000 And ultimately came to the conclusion that...

00:26:23.000 Even if they had at some point thought that that vaccine was effective, they knew that it wasn't long before they stopped recommending it, in particular to certain communities like young people, for example, young men who are at risk of myocarditis and don't need to get it for themselves.

00:26:38.000 You also recall all of the various media moments where they tried to sort of pull back a little bit and reframe it, and that's now actually finding it...

00:26:46.000 Full expression for the LA Times story where the LA Times are sort of pretending that they've always really loved Bobby Kennedy.

00:26:52.000 If they could destroy Bobby Kennedy, they would.

00:26:54.000 If they could destroy you, they would.

00:26:57.000 If they could control everybody by claiming that they're protecting you, they would.

00:27:01.000 And they will continue to find ways to do that.

00:27:04.000 I don't know, let me know in the comments in the chat, what you think, whether the Trump administration will be a significant bulwark and prophylactic against that kind of insidious desire for...

00:27:16.000 But I hope that it will be.

00:27:18.000 That's just what I think.

00:27:19.000 Let me know what you think in the comments and the chat.

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00:29:36.000 Without further delay, let's introduce our friend Jenna First, the documentary maker who made in 24, so just recently, the film Thank You, Dr. Fauci, that examines Fauci's role in the pandemic.

00:29:48.000 A first-person investigation, so like Nick Broomfield or whatever, into the origins of COVID-19.

00:29:53.000 First is the founder of Insight, a premium content studio, and up until very recently, maybe still is, you'll have to check, he was on Tucker Carlson's network.

00:30:01.000 Jenna, thank you so much for joining us.

00:30:03.000 Are the fires still actually going on?

00:30:05.000 Let's not pretend this interview's happening now.

00:30:07.000 Here it is, I recorded it earlier.

00:30:10.000 Jenna, thanks so much for joining us today.

00:30:13.000 Thank you for having me.

00:30:14.000 Where are you then in the fires?

00:30:16.000 I know you're an L.A. resident.

00:30:18.000 I'm so sorry.

00:30:18.000 I don't mean to be glib about it.

00:30:20.000 I'm sorry that you're going through that.

00:30:21.000 Where are you now?

00:30:24.000 Yeah, I'm on the east side.

00:30:25.000 I'm by Griffith Park.

00:30:27.000 And it's been very calm.

00:30:29.000 The air is good now.

00:30:30.000 But I did leave.

00:30:32.000 I went to San Diego for a couple days.

00:30:33.000 It got a little hairy when the fires were in the hills.

00:30:37.000 But my partner lives in the Palisades and he lost everything.

00:30:43.000 Oh, you're joking.

00:30:44.000 Yeah, Palisades.

00:30:45.000 That's some of the apocalyptic stuff right there, isn't it?

00:30:49.000 The Palisades.

00:30:50.000 Do you know what's mad, mate?

00:30:51.000 I forget that I lived in LA, so when you say Griffith Park, like, oh, the image comes of that bear.

00:30:58.000 And, like, you know, I know that place.

00:31:02.000 I lived right near there a bunch of times in my life, you know, during my time in the city of Los Angeles.

00:31:10.000 Other than what you see on X, I don't know much about it.

00:31:13.000 You said a minute ago, just before we started our chat, that it's sort of surreal.

00:31:18.000 You're a journalist and a filmmaker.

00:31:20.000 What does it feel like to be there?

00:31:26.000 Well, you know, I think we can accept acts of God, you know, Mother Nature, things like that, but this doesn't feel like A natural disaster.

00:31:39.000 It feels like a disaster of government, a disaster of leadership.

00:31:44.000 This could have been prevented.

00:31:47.000 A fire may have started, but the damage that these fires caused could have been prevented.

00:31:53.000 They ran out of water at one point.

00:31:56.000 It's shocking, and I think it really highlighted how corrupt...

00:32:00.000 The state of California is, and this whole water debate, and we don't even clean forests here.

00:32:07.000 I mean, there's so many middle class jobs that could be created through forest management and even water projects that seem to be controlled.

00:32:18.000 I mean, there's a family in California, supposedly, that controls all the water.

00:32:23.000 It's very corrupt stuff.

00:32:25.000 It's like Chinatown. 0.98

00:32:28.000 That's mental. 0.99

00:32:29.000 That's ridiculous. 0.97

00:32:31.000 You know, like when people sort of frame stuff as a natural disaster, this is what it made me realise just then. 0.90

00:32:40.000 It sounds like what you're describing is a breaking of the pact or covenant that exists between the government and the governed.

00:32:49.000 Like, you guys pay taxes there, and there are significant taxes in California, I know, because I've lived there.

00:32:56.000 The property taxes are high, the income taxes are high, and those are particular California levies.

00:33:03.000 So you feel like for that, what you should get is when there is a requirement for government intervention, whether that's criminal judicial issues or, inverted commas, natural disasters, you want excellence from your government.

00:33:16.000 And if that doesn't come forth, you're like, right, you guys.

00:33:20.000 Now, they describe it as a natural disaster, but there's a sort of a sub-narrative of Climate change, if you're on the sort of cultural left, and what climate change does is sort of says it's collectively being caused by the negligence of human beings.

00:33:38.000 But it's not God in a kind of a traditional sense, like, you know, sort of a punishment.

00:33:42.000 It's not like a flood or an inferno in order to punish people.

00:33:45.000 It's just because collectively we are bad and nature has responded in this way as a kind of punishment.

00:33:53.000 And really what I've noticed is whenever they suggest climate change legislation, it's usually punitive to ordinary people and doesn't regulate either huge interests or...

00:34:07.000 What you might call economic or social elites.

00:34:11.000 So this fire has brought a lot of political narratives to the forefront and you as a resident of LA fall firmly on the side of I sense government ineptitude because it should have been prepared for better and dealt with more quickly and efficiently.

00:34:26.000 Yeah, I mean it's a perfect parallel to COVID, right?

00:34:29.000 I mean a lot of the research that was done On these viruses, they were using global warming and climate change as an excuse that, you know, we're encroaching on rainforests and all these viruses are jumping over from nature and we have to research them and we have to take them into a laboratory and genetically engineer them so that we can get ahead of it.

00:34:50.000 And it's the opposite.

00:34:53.000 These viruses, sure, they...

00:34:55.000 It can easily come from a rainforest to a village, maybe even make it to a wet market.

00:35:01.000 But the biggest threat that we're facing is man-made intervention in this whole problem.

00:35:08.000 And what's underneath that is an even more sinister story about bioweapons and espionage and a lot of scary stuff, the corruption of the pharmaceutical industry.

00:35:20.000 The way that our government is captured by these large corporations that seek to, in effect, abuse the public.

00:35:28.000 And so when you hear, for me, seeing this fire happen in Los Angeles, it's very symbolic, right?

00:35:37.000 Aside from being the fifth largest economy on the planet, this is also a place where American culture is exported to the world.

00:35:48.000 Our greatest export is Hollywood, and this is in many ways an image of America, for better or worse.

00:35:54.000 I mean, I think a lot of countries that hate America look at Hollywood as a perfect example of our moral bankruptcy, and it's burning.

00:36:03.000 And I go on the news and I'm someone who comes from the far left, like the anti-government left.

00:36:11.000 Like I believe in the protection of people, the providing for the poor.

00:36:15.000 You know, in many ways, a lot of my beliefs align with, say, libertarians.

00:36:20.000 The difference is I think there should be a safety net because I grew up in cities, you know.

00:36:25.000 But a lot of this anti-war, anti-corporations, anti-politics for the most part.

00:36:31.000 And what I saw happen with this fire, it's almost a direct parallel to COVID because you saw party lines, you saw now it was a fight between Gavin Newsom and Donald Trump.

00:36:42.000 And this is a distraction to the public, the same way it was during COVID, that the game is dividing the public.

00:36:49.000 If you are any scholar of late-stage capitalism, you know that there is more than enough for everybody.

00:36:56.000 But the illusion that there isn't, or even the illusion that we're facing some existential crisis that we can't do anything about, that we need to recycle, which is insane.

00:37:06.000 I mean, we have technologies in place to do a number of different things to fight any issue with the climate.

00:37:12.000 We have technologies in place to desalinate water in California.

00:37:15.000 We don't do it.

00:37:16.000 We have technologies to seed clouds.

00:37:20.000 I mean, the Beijing Olympics, they were seeding rainstorms to clean the city.

00:37:24.000 Why can't California do that with its driest forest?

00:37:27.000 And it begs the question, you know, and it's not just negligence.

00:37:33.000 I think there's something underneath it, like COVID, that's far more sinister.

00:37:36.000 And in many ways, it's the abuse of public trust.

00:37:39.000 It's the abuse of the safety net that should be there for people that isn't.

00:37:44.000 That's pretty good analysis, if I may say, Jenna.

00:37:49.000 Jenna, the idea of scarcity is an important component of social control because if you limit what's available, competition, and therefore competition becomes necessary and conflict becomes likely.

00:38:06.000 You said that you're from the...

00:38:08.000 I've not heard anyone say anything like that for a long time, long, long time, from the far-left anti-government left.

00:38:16.000 I actually sort of forgot that was a component, even though that's where I'm from.

00:38:21.000 I'm from there.

00:38:22.000 I'm from, like, occupy the streets.

00:38:26.000 Exactly.

00:38:27.000 I'm from go to, like, marches to support...

00:38:30.000 Stockers, go to marches, anti-war, go to marches just to kick off, go to marches that are just generally against the, in inverted commas, the man.

00:38:40.000 But because there's been such an extraordinary, rapid, and at times very confusing, set of cultural shifts, I sort of forgot that that was available.

00:38:51.000 Some time ago, a friend of mine called Adam Curtis said that...

00:38:57.000 When I was concerned, I was like, this is years ago, this might be ten years ago, because the stuff I'm starting to watch online and the people I'm starting to identify with are on their right wing, right?

00:39:08.000 And he goes, well, just because this comes out of the right, it don't need to be, inverted commas, right wing, how you would...

00:39:16.000 I believe in...

00:39:45.000 Love and compassion and service.

00:39:47.000 And that's, like, since coming to Christ or Christ coming to me, however you term it, it's one of the massive benefits of this has been that...

00:39:58.000 I'm no longer left as a solitary adventurer when it comes to determining what moral course to make through issues because it's already sort of predetermined by not only scripture but by actions of Christ.

00:40:11.000 And it's also a set of morals that supersede and Trump, forgive the word, whatever moral authority might be used to oppose it.

00:40:21.000 Governmental, of course, governmental moral authority.

00:40:24.000 So please, while telling us about how you came to make the film Thank You, Dr. Fauci, your 2024 film, out now...

00:40:36.000 Now, can you tell us whether or not the COVID period somehow helped you to, or expedited your shift from, you know, the kind of, like, left-wing radical that I might, well, I was, like, I don't trust government, blah, blah, blah, that kind of stuff, big corporations, you know, I said in the last show we were doing, I was like, in the Iraq wars, it was Cheney, Bush, Wolfowitz, they were all, like, right-wing conservatives doing that war gear then.

00:41:01.000 Now, Biden, so what's going on?

00:41:04.000 Who are these migratory interests that seem to operate beneath these systems of war?

00:41:11.000 Anyway, can you tell me how your, thank you, you've already illustrated how the 20, these current fires are comparable to the COVID pandemic, and I thought that was really well explained.

00:41:20.000 Could you help me to understand how you changed and learned during that pandemic period, in particular with regard to your previous identification as a sort of a leftist radical?

00:41:32.000 Well, yeah, I mean, you touched on it.

00:41:34.000 I came up in 9-11, right?

00:41:36.000 And so I saw, you know, an act of, quote, terror be used to reorganize the world, to strip average Americans, regular people of their civil liberties, to invoke government authority unlike anything that this democracy or republic has ever seen.

00:42:01.000 That is really what formed my belief system, and it was Cheney and Bush and that whole world that built my consciousness about empire and about late-stage capitalism and about the way that we were organizing to control the world through a series of illusions and through the use of propaganda.

00:42:26.000 In a new world, in a world that had the internet and eventually social media.

00:42:31.000 And I think that ultimately...

00:42:33.000 As the years went on, I've challenged many different aspects of our zeitgeist and brought them to large audiences.

00:42:41.000 I've challenged the opioid epidemic.

00:42:43.000 I've challenged the criminal justice system.

00:42:47.000 I've challenged multi-level marketing and how it preys on middle-class people. 0.75

00:42:52.000 I've challenged social media deception.

00:42:54.000 I did the film about the fire festival with Ja Rule.

00:42:59.000 That's amazing, that film!

00:43:01.000 Yeah, that was me.

00:43:03.000 That's so funny!

00:43:05.000 I did the one on Hulu, though.

00:43:08.000 I did the one on Hulu, Russell.

00:43:09.000 So I had Billy, and we were warring documentaries, but I've since reconciled with the Netflix team.

00:43:16.000 I had a film on Netflix at the same time called The Pharmacist.

00:43:19.000 So I've done these explorations of culture.

00:43:24.000 Of crime.

00:43:25.000 A recent series I did was called Murdoch Murders.

00:43:28.000 It was seen by a hundred, streamed for a hundred million hours in the first two weeks.

00:43:33.000 And so it's, you know, I've been repeatedly looking at the zeitgeist, looking at what, you know, trends.

00:43:42.000 And so I consider myself a cynical person, someone who knows how to analyze media, someone who knows how to analyze propaganda. 0.97

00:43:49.000 And the most shocking thing to me was with that entire background, with that conditioning to distrust, with an anti-authoritarian, you know, pro-public, pro-whore, pro-manipulation of the masses, you know, investigating these things and pro-independence, I realized that I was just a sucker. 0.88

00:44:15.000 And that I had been a sucker for a couple years with this COVID story. 0.79

00:44:19.000 And that as much as I could buy and as much as I was willing to accept in the very beginning that this virus came from a lab, I found myself going along with the herd in my business and my industry, you know, not wanting to make waves, you know, taking what I could get for work and arguing with my own family.

00:44:41.000 And it took about three hours.

00:44:44.000 To have a really, really intense psychological break.

00:44:49.000 When I decided to investigate this, I was contacted by these independent producers.

00:44:53.000 They said, look, we know your work.

00:44:55.000 We really want an authentic, you know, a real telling of this story by a reputable filmmaker.

00:45:02.000 We don't want it to be seen as just another conspiracy theory film.

00:45:06.000 We don't want it to be hyperpolitical.

00:45:07.000 I said, well, I don't make...

00:45:09.000 It can't be hyperpolitical.

00:45:11.000 It has to be an objective telling of the story.

00:45:13.000 It has to be based on evidence.

00:45:15.000 So let me look into it, right?

00:45:18.000 And ironically, in the beginning of the pandemic, an Academy Award-winning actor who is a very, very big actor was doing a project about Fauci, and it was a total puff piece, and I was attached to direct it.

00:45:32.000 And this is 2020, April 2020, when he's just kind of on the news all day for the first time.

00:45:39.000 And it was about his history of, you know, in the AIDS pandemic in Africa, specifically during the Bush-Cheney administration, and how he had Bush and Condoleezza Rice had wanted to stop the AIDS pandemic in Africa.

00:45:56.000 Bono was involved.

00:45:57.000 It was a very Christian, sort of compassionate conservatism.

00:46:02.000 They believed that billions of people would die.

00:46:04.000 And Fauci was the hero.

00:46:08.000 On the outside.

00:46:09.000 But in many ways, it was a metaphor because he never did work on the ground.

00:46:13.000 He never did the hard work.

00:46:14.000 He was never in Africa, you know, treating people. 1.00

00:46:17.000 He's not really ever been a clinical doctor in a doctor's office or in a hospital.

00:46:22.000 And in many ways, he's been a career politician and a bureaucrat and someone who took credit for everyone else's hard work.

00:46:28.000 And if and that's saying it lightly.

00:46:31.000 But So it was totally ironic.

00:46:35.000 You know, I was attached to direct this film in a parallel universe.

00:46:39.000 I directed a movie about Fauci that was, you know, sympathetic to him and was great.

00:46:46.000 But in this universe, I didn't direct that film.

00:46:49.000 I went on to do several others during the pandemic.

00:46:52.000 And now I was being contacted to investigate him.

00:46:55.000 And I'm a very open-minded person.

00:46:56.000 I said, look, I do believe that this is totally... 0.99

00:47:00.000 Fucked up. 0.99

00:47:01.000 Whatever happened is not right. 0.99

00:47:03.000 Let me look at the evidence because I'm not going to make anything that's a witch hunt or just bashing this guy.

00:47:11.000 I need to know that I can tell a story that's subjective and one that feels like it's investigative and like a true crime and something that people would find entertaining on both sides of this issue.

00:47:22.000 Something people would be able to access on both sides of this issue.

00:47:26.000 And that three hours that I'm referring to was the first three hours that I used my critical investigative tools to see that there were 300,000 pages of evidence that had existed for almost two years by that point, and that I had lived in a world where they didn't exist.

00:47:47.000 My algorithm on social media, the newspapers I choose to believe in, you know, the New York Times, the Washington Post, all this stuff, they didn't cover this.

00:47:57.000 And this was arguably the biggest story of our time. 0.95

00:48:01.000 And at that point, I had a sinking feeling as a quote, informed person, as a quote, radical, as someone who's supposed to investigate everything, that I was just another sucker. 0.66

00:48:12.000 And for two years, I had believed.

00:48:15.000 Whatever I was told, even though I don't believe anything, I was not aware of how actively I'd been manipulated.

00:48:24.000 And I think that really drove me to dive in.

00:48:28.000 And I started emailing the guy and telling him about my work and how I was attached to direct a film about him.

00:48:35.000 And now I'm doing this COVID thing and investigating it.

00:48:39.000 And there's some discrepancies, Dr. Fauci.

00:48:42.000 I'd love to know more about...

00:48:44.000 You know, this, that, and the third.

00:48:46.000 And we went back and forth.

00:48:48.000 And in the meantime, I found this whole community that had been investigating this from day one.

00:48:54.000 I'm not breaking this story.

00:48:56.000 What I'm doing is bringing together these brave voices, all of whom are reputable doctors, scientists, intelligence analysts, former government officials, the CDC director at the time of the pandemic, and just highlighting.

00:49:08.000 The absolutely staggering amount of evidence and the chilling facts that underscore the story and that were available to the press on day one, including Fauci's history, which is not new.

00:49:23.000 The guy has been controversial for 30 years.

00:49:25.000 And all of a sudden, the media has amnesia about that.

00:49:29.000 And we live in a world where we can't tell a story more than 15 seconds on the news.

00:49:35.000 And you certainly can't tell a story that's critical of the pharmaceutical industry because they're the biggest advertiser.

00:49:41.000 So, you know, I'm just bringing this to the surface.

00:49:44.000 I'm not the one breaking it.

00:49:46.000 I'm just someone who's brought it together and digested it for the global public so that we can actually take this seriously and understand the implications.

00:49:56.000 The story that you're referring to, presumably then, is that there's long been evidence that there's...

00:50:01.000 That there was a bioweapons program that DARPA had invested in Wuhan that Fauci actively repressed the research and revelation of the lab leak theory, that American money has been spent in that lab in Wuhan, that it's impossible or near impossible that a virus could evolve.

00:50:28.000 ...in that way outside of a laboratory because there's a molecular signature that makes that impossible, that the vaccines themselves were not significantly or sufficiently clinically trialed, that there were lies about their potential impact on...

00:50:47.000 Pregnant women, their effectiveness and necessity on children, the way that the pandemic lockdown could or should have been handled, whether or not you vaccinate during a pandemic or for stop, the correct utilisation of mRNA technology and how to deploy that, even the use of the word vaccine, all things that were, as you say, available to us, notably through the work of Bobby Kennedy, who in some near miracle... 0.88

00:51:17.000 He now finds himself the head of the largest governmental department in the world, the HHS, and that's got to be seen as a significant move forward.

00:51:26.000 So when you're talking about the contributors to your film, JNR, how do you tell the story?

00:51:35.000 Do you talk to Marty Makkari, Bhattacharya, are you talking to people that are now again in government?

00:51:40.000 They're all in the movie.

00:51:41.000 Yeah, they're all in the movie.

00:51:42.000 And so that is what's crazy is a year ago, when I was in the middle of bringing this to the surface, these were people who had been exiled, alienated, discredited.

00:51:54.000 I know Bobby, I've sat with Bobby, really great person dedicated to protecting the public, obviously politically manipulated on the news for the advantage of many different...

00:52:10.000 Forces that do not want him to accomplish what he is intending to do, which is to actually create safety nets for us and our food and our medicines and vaccines.

00:52:22.000 You're right.

00:52:23.000 The term anti-vax takes on the same sort of heiress terrorist or communist.

00:52:31.000 It's these buzzwords in American society that are used to immediately communicate.

00:52:38.000 That you were on the wrong side or that you're one of us.

00:52:44.000 And in this case, what's so ironic is that in, you know, around 9-11, you know, the real nexus of evil for me in my investigative work was the Bush administration.

00:52:56.000 And that was...

00:52:58.000 Really the moment that Fauci got more power than he's ever had in his life.

00:53:02.000 People think he's a progressive or a liberal.

00:53:04.000 He couldn't be further from those things.

00:53:08.000 He was put in a position of unchecked power after 9-11 by Dick Cheney after the anthrax attacks, which were a false flag terrorist attack.

00:53:23.000 They were, you know, Cheney used the excuse that it was potentially Al-Qaeda.

00:53:29.000 Saddam Hussein had anthrax, that there were weapons of mass destruction.

00:53:33.000 Well, it turns out that it was a biodefense researcher at Fort Detrick, which is pretty much the Main campus of bioweapons for the armed forces in the United States.

00:53:46.000 And this man allegedly was concerned about biodefense research, and so he staged a hoax and sent this anthrax around to the press and to politicians.

00:53:59.000 Well, we didn't know about that.

00:54:03.000 Until 2008, when Cheney and Bush were headed out of office, so at the end of their administration, this bombshell comes out.

00:54:11.000 And this man, Bruce Ivins, now arrested and facing a trial as someone who staged this, starts speaking out that the story couldn't be further from the truth, that he didn't act alone.

00:54:28.000 And at the moment...

00:54:29.000 When Congress, members of our Congress begin to accept the fact that he may not have acted alone, which means that there could have been a larger conspiracy to leak this anthrax in order to basically change regulation, culture, funding, authority for biodefense.

00:54:49.000 This man, Bruce Ivins, around that moment in time in 2008, he dies.

00:54:54.000 And it is called a suicide.

00:54:57.000 And the method of suicide is Tylenol.

00:55:00.000 So we're asked to believe that a senior biodefense researcher, a talented scientist, would choose to overdose on Tylenol at the very moment that he's claiming that he did not act alone in the story that the government is releasing is not the one.

00:55:18.000 So why is that relevant?

00:55:19.000 Because when that fake terrorist attack happened, Anthony Fauci Was put in a position of unchecked power.

00:55:29.000 And Dick Cheney took biodefense out of the Pentagon and the Defense Department, where it was heavily regulated, where there was all this compliance review to make sure you weren't violating the Bioweapons Treaty from the 70s.

00:55:42.000 And he put it in this totally innocuous health institute.

00:55:48.000 In the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease, where a career bureaucrat, who by that point was probably, even then, in the turn of the century, one of the most powerful people in the entire HHS system because he had so much seniority, he, at that moment, got unchecked power.

00:56:09.000 Billions of dollars.

00:56:11.000 Clearance.

00:56:12.000 High security clearance.

00:56:14.000 A line directly to the White House.

00:56:17.000 And they were doing advanced vaccine research and stockpiling under the lie that we had been attacked by a terrorist who sent anthrax to politicians.

00:56:31.000 And if you read Anthony Fauci's book...

00:56:34.000 Which is in my film.

00:56:35.000 I actually get his audio book.

00:56:37.000 I get the reading of his book.

00:56:38.000 He does not mention once that the anthrax attack was a false flag, lab origin, United States government attack.

00:56:49.000 And he spends a good deal of time talking about how it was not a terrorist attack and how it was not.

00:56:59.000 A false flag and that it was actually a terrorist attack and that he was valiantly trying to protect the public from the risk of these terrorist attacks.

00:57:08.000 So you literally could look at everything that this man comments about his legacy and there is a flip side to the story and it's one of deception.

00:57:18.000 It's one of high levels of bureaucratic manipulation and of very dark and sinister Interests that in many ways we're now beginning to see are bigger than nation states.

00:57:34.000 This is not patriotic.

00:57:37.000 These are companies that have interests across many nations around the country and that conspire for power within our government in what's called the deep state, which was...

00:57:50.000 Originally a leftist term, you know, the idea that all of our agencies are captured by these corporations and that really these these agencies by, you know, these corporations by way of these agencies like HHS, you know, which has the FDA, the CDC, the NIH, you know, this massive blob.

00:58:09.000 of a bureaucracy, that the corporations are, in effect, more powerful than the president, the country itself, the Congress, and that we know enough to know that Congress is completely ineffective.

00:58:23.000 Most of the members of Congress are leveraged by lobbyists, you know, either through just money and perks or straight contramat and blackmail, which is a known thing.

00:58:36.000 You know, Epstein, you know, that's a chapter of it.

00:58:39.000 But on the flip side, the Republicans had their own system, which broke in the 80s called the Franklin Files, where they were exploiting closeted homosexual legislators, and they were blackmailing them and forming lobbying companies through blackmail tapes.

00:58:57.000 So that's the American government, right?

00:59:00.000 And so when the American government tells you to do something, you should pretty much consider that The opposite is your best interest and that, in effect, what you're being demanded to do or mandated to do is to ingratiate a very, you know, morally bankrupt corporation.

00:59:21.000 And so that's who Anthony Fauci really is.

00:59:24.000 He's not a scientist.

00:59:25.000 He's not America's scientist or doctor.

00:59:28.000 He's not a hero. 0.96

00:59:29.000 He's a bag man for some very evil people.

00:59:34.000 Got a lot of things to pick up on.

00:59:37.000 If we think about how the media initially presented Anthony Fauci, not only it was not neutral, it was an extremely propagandistic, highly editorialized perspective, almost as heavily editorialized as the highly editorialized perspective, almost as heavily editorialized as the example you give from his own self-read home.

00:59:58.000 Of not mentioning an entire perspective.

01:00:01.000 Now, the kind of rupture that appears when you see not only a kind of living hagiography of Fauci play out across late night talk shows, emblazoning pins and t-shirts and banners, and that kind emblazoning pins and t-shirts and banners, and that kind of particular jocularity that disgusts me.

01:00:25.000 is it okay to find Annie Fauci sexy?

01:00:29.000 That was the bit where I was like, you know, I'm so grateful, man, that I suppose ultimately, My dislike of establishment power is probably, well, ultimately spiritual, but more perhaps germanely psychological and then political.

01:00:54.000 So like me, because I don't trust authority...

01:00:58.000 Like, that was the first thing it hit in me, is why are we being told all of this so enthusiastically?

01:01:04.000 This doesn't seem right.

01:01:06.000 And by the time it got to the sort of the...

01:01:09.000 ...kick line of syringes with Colbert, and Colbert will go out to bat hard against Bobby Kennedy.

01:01:17.000 It starts to make you realise that we're living in this sort of extraordinarily inverted culture, where someone, by all accounts, who is not neutral, but I don't want to be reductive because he's a child of the Lord, etc., but someone who is...

01:01:30.000 Villainous, like Fauci, is portrayed as heroic, and someone who's heroic, like Bobby Kennedy, is portrayed as villainous.

01:01:38.000 Where might we go now with a whole host and raft of other stories that are attributed to the same space that we now have sketched out and recognised?

01:01:48.000 Now, on that point, you said right at the beginning that the terrorism paradigm was ultimately used to strip civil liberties, and the COVID paradigm...

01:02:02.000 Now, I wonder how long we can continue to regard them as civil liberties, you know, like to sort of dance around some of George Carlin's analysis, who would say, where do you get these rights from?

01:02:14.000 Where are these inalienable rights coming from?

01:02:17.000 Who could ever grant anybody rights?

01:02:20.000 What is the sovereign force?

01:02:23.000 It's an irrefutable, universal principle that no one can deny, that means that human life is sacred, for example, or that we ought to revere nature, not because it's a resource, but because we're part of it and have a role to play with it.

01:02:35.000 I wonder, Jenna, now that you've sort of, like, and I recognise you've got another part coming out for your film, and I'll be excited to see that too.

01:02:43.000 When you, like, you mentioned Epstein, but do you start thinking, well, what do you think's going on with the, you know, suicide, the suicide of, was it Bruce Ivins?

01:02:52.000 Do you start to think, wow, well I wonder what the truth is with, say, the Clinton kill list?

01:02:57.000 And I wonder what the truth is when it comes to some of Assange's reporting?

01:03:02.000 Do you start to feel a kind of an unbridled embrace that, oh my god, all of this stuff is potentially open?

01:03:13.000 And when, right, and I'm saying this because of what you declared about yourself culturally at the beginning, i.e.

01:03:18.000 of the left.

01:03:19.000 When and where do you look at, say, David Icke and Alex Jones and say, well, where do I not go that they have gone?

01:03:29.000 Where do I not go that they have gone, given that basically everything we've said so far, David Icke or Alex Jones would have told us, like, in 1980. Right, but they also have said a lot of other things, right?

01:03:44.000 And so, in this world...

01:03:46.000 You can't trust anything.

01:03:48.000 In fact, I will tell anyone listening or watching this, do not trust me.

01:03:53.000 Challenge me.

01:03:56.000 Level an allegation that I am doing the work of some evil party to mislead you.

01:04:02.000 And then stumble upon the truth that you find.

01:04:06.000 That has merit.

01:04:07.000 And let's talk once you've done that.

01:04:09.000 I'm willing for anyone, especially people who come from the left or who are part of the Democratic Party, to challenge this narrative and act as if I was funded by a super pact, which I was not.

01:04:24.000 And we live in a world right now where you mentioned these people, you know, shock jocks and for all of time and people who really actually Sometimes touch on these nerves that are highly factual and are really transmitting truth about some very hard topics.

01:04:47.000 We live in a world where our intelligence service utilizes this format to create chaos and information.

01:04:57.000 And there is so much information now that it is almost part of our human behavior.

01:05:03.000 That we would have to emotionally evaluate this information as if it is coming from a stranger or an enemy or if it's coming from a friend or an ally.

01:05:16.000 And it is in that space that intelligence agencies, the great, evil, powerful forces that want to abuse the regular people, that they do their best work.

01:05:28.000 Because the fact that there is so much information out there...

01:05:32.000 And the fact that there's so much misinformation about COVID specifically or about anything else, fill in the blank, that someone, a regular person, is overwhelmed by that and will make an emotional decision about the information they're going to consume.

01:05:49.000 They will choose to follow these 3 or 4, 10, 15, 150 people.

01:05:54.000 Their algorithm will be created.

01:05:56.000 They will watch this station.

01:05:57.000 And therein lies the real dirty work because all of that.

01:06:02.000 Is part of the game theory that exists at the very top.

01:06:05.000 And I don't mean the top of our government.

01:06:07.000 I don't mean the president of the United States.

01:06:08.000 I mean the folks that are more powerful than the president of the United States and the United Nations and any president of any country.

01:06:15.000 The folks who use information to keep us divided, to keep us siloed, to keep us afraid.

01:06:24.000 To keep us suffering from cognitive dissonance, that when we're faced with a truth, that we have been conditioned to accept a reality so different from that, that we feel viscerally affected by it.

01:06:37.000 We feel angry.

01:06:38.000 We want to hurt the person giving us that truth.

01:06:40.000 We don't want to believe them.

01:06:42.000 We actually want to go against our own interests to believe the lies of Multi-billion dollar, if not trillion dollar corporate interests that have routinely abused and killed the poor.

01:06:58.000 And this is the story of America from day one.

01:07:02.000 And that is, again, part of our amnesia as a country here in America.

01:07:07.000 I consider myself a patriot.

01:07:08.000 The reason why is because I think in this melting pot, my family's all immigrants.

01:07:13.000 They all suffered to come here.

01:07:16.000 But there's levels, right?

01:07:18.000 There's that intersectionality of America where there's always a group that was more oppressed until you get...

01:07:24.000 Of course, to African slaves, and Native Americans, which is the great creation myth of our country, is all that bloodshed. 1.00

01:07:34.000 But what people don't know is that there was a time when there were white slaves and black slaves, and that essentially...

01:07:42.000 There was a moment in history called Bacon's Rebellion.

01:07:45.000 I think it is the most telling story in American history.

01:07:48.000 It was in the late 1700s.

01:07:51.000 Actually, I think it was the late 1600s, excuse me.

01:07:54.000 And this colonialist was upset with the British.

01:07:57.000 No offense, Russell.

01:07:59.000 And he was upset.

01:08:00.000 He was very, very...

01:08:01.000 That was a horrible joke.

01:08:05.000 Please edit that out.

01:08:06.000 So he mobilized these poor... 0.94

01:08:11.000 White and black slaves. 0.78

01:08:13.000 And they took over a town for years as a militia.

01:08:18.000 And the plantation class was so horrified by the reality that these poor disenfranchised people, these slaves who they relied on, the free labor that they relied on to build their industries, the free labor that built this country, they were so horrified that they intervened.

01:08:36.000 And I don't think it was a master cobbler conspiracy.

01:08:39.000 It was almost like just gravity, like the force of nature, like the way things go when there's this much of a gap in the have and the have nots.

01:08:48.000 And they created chattel slavery. 0.88

01:08:49.000 And they told poor white people that they were better than black people no matter what. 0.91

01:08:54.000 When the reality is that poor people have more in common. 0.68

01:08:58.000 99% of people on the planet have more in common with each other than they do with that fraction of a percentage.

01:09:05.000 And that fraction of a percentage...

01:09:07.000 It thrives off that 99% of people who actually have common interests, who actually share more life experiences in common than that fraction of percentage.

01:09:17.000 They thrive off dividing the people.

01:09:20.000 And you can watch in American history, that strategy has been repeated.

01:09:24.000 Over and over and over again.

01:09:26.000 It's Jim Crow. 0.87

01:09:28.000 It's the Ku Klux Klan.

01:09:29.000 It's the Southern strategy.

01:09:31.000 And then the flip side is, it's the assassination of Martin Luther King, not because he's talking about race, but because he's forming a poor people's movement.

01:09:40.000 That's when he gets assassinated.

01:09:41.000 And by the way, James Earl Ray...

01:09:45.000 Probably did not shoot him and that the FBI was likely involved.

01:09:50.000 And this Bobby Kennedy, what the fire in his belly is that two of his family members, his father was assassinated, you know, likely by with the cooperation of the United States government.

01:10:02.000 And so was his uncle potentially.

01:10:05.000 And we don't even we haven't even declassified those files yet.

01:10:09.000 And so if you look at the story of America and why I consider myself a patriot is because.

01:10:14.000 At least I'm here talking about it, right?

01:10:16.000 We have enough freedoms that I can be on your podcast.

01:10:19.000 And yeah, I can worry about being killed or doing things.

01:10:22.000 But you know, it comes back to that point I said before.

01:10:25.000 People are more likely to mislead me and get me to publish false information than they are to kill me.

01:10:33.000 The people who get killed are the people who are sitting on whistleblowers and people who have the cure for cancer or AIDS or the lone reporter in a town down south.

01:10:44.000 People like me don't get killed.

01:10:45.000 They get manipulated.

01:10:46.000 And so who knows what Alex Jones, his back channels have been over the years, but he would certainly be a perfect person to manipulate if you were trying to create misinformation or you're trying to confuse people.

01:10:58.000 And that's no disrespect to him or his platform.

01:11:00.000 I just mean that we cannot trust anything anymore because the game theory at the top is so evolved and so sophisticated that every single thing can be used in a way to benefit.

01:11:14.000 The bad actors.

01:11:15.000 Think about this, that all these people committed these frauds and crimes, the pharmaceutical industry, the United States government, our intelligence service, our military, Anthony Fauci, big science across multiple other countries as well.

01:11:29.000 And those bad actors, it was win-win for them.

01:11:34.000 We live in a world where it's lose-lose for 99% of people, no matter how you cut it, and win-win for that fraction of percentage, no matter how you cut it.

01:11:44.000 It's win-win because the game theory and the way they benefit even from chaos, the way they benefit even from crime and fraud and murder is so defined and so predictable that it's going to happen again. 0.94

01:11:55.000 And if we don't think another man-made pandemic is coming after this one, we are so fucking asleep.

01:12:01.000 Because if they made this much money and they got that much social control, and when I say they, a big blob, amorphous hydra that you can't kill, if they... 0.91

01:12:12.000 If it was so successful for them, we better believe it's going to happen again, and we better fight like hell to prevent it, because it's going to be far worse than the last time.

01:12:21.000 The reason I brought up Alex Jones and David Icke is because in addition to their contributions when it comes to institutional corruption and how that likely has a global component, that these various institutions, whether they're commercial or state, are transcendent of nation.

01:12:36.000 And therefore transcendent of democratic reach is because both of them have an esoteric component to their analysis.

01:12:43.000 They don't just talk about the movement of power and the movement of money and the influence through lobbying and donations and think tanks and the Atlantic Council and the various manoeuvres that could occur within state institutions.

01:12:59.000 Neither do they stop short of the analysis that you could find through Chomsky, among others, that...

01:13:05.000 Crises are beneficial to institutions of power.

01:13:09.000 Why I think that the pandemic was such a clarifying time, the analysis that you could apply to the pandemic, you can equally apply to terrorism, or you can apply to war, or to a variety of ideas.

01:13:26.000 Climate change.

01:13:27.000 Hey, go right back to climate change.

01:13:29.000 You can apply it.

01:13:30.000 We're going to lose civil liberties from that.

01:13:32.000 Indeed.

01:13:33.000 Precisely.

01:13:34.000 It was such a clarifying time because we saw in concentration, concurrence, and in a relatively short period of time, how the same crisis was beneficial to various sets of interests.

01:13:46.000 What I would further contest is that these interests, in addition...

01:13:51.000 To the perspicacious reporting offered by those somewhat shamanic figures, I reckon it's helpful to look at them as somewhat shamanic, because as Whitney Webb said to me some time ago, Much of what Alex Jones says is difficult to corroborate.

01:14:09.000 It was the lovely journalistic phrase that I rather enjoyed from Whitney Webb.

01:14:14.000 But continually and intuitively, Ike would say that there is evidence, and perhaps so would Alex Jones, but they continually refer to an occultist dimension.

01:14:25.000 Now the reason that interests me, Jenna, is because...

01:14:28.000 When we're talking about sort of game theory and chaos, the manipulation of information and the benefits engendered to the powerful through crisis and therefore the likelihood that crisis itself becomes generated in order to benefit from the control that it affords, what's difficult is where do we look to for some kind of authority, as you said, of yourself?

01:14:49.000 Why would anyone trust you or me or anyone over anyone else?

01:14:53.000 We're all human beings, we're all flawed, we're all fallible, we're all prone to the same kind of manipulation.

01:14:59.000 You know, when I see sort of baroque and incursive critiques of Elon Musk, I think, well, how would you get on if you were granted that much power?

01:15:09.000 And the reason that I know that is because I've seen how people have sort of criticized me, both through influence and indeed through the way I behaved when I was a sort of, you know, operating within, let's call it a different power structure with different rewards.

01:15:24.000 What I feel now, and what I've been shown now, is that we have a requirement for absolute authority, and you cannot get Absolute authority via any human system.

01:15:36.000 You can get consensus, which is a kind of authority, I suppose, if there's ten people in a room and all ten people agree how to divide up food or open the window or how to resist assailants.

01:15:50.000 I suppose that's a kind of authority.

01:15:52.000 But that authority is kind of based on majority and presupposes that a majority couldn't be wrong.

01:15:58.000 And we know from the same history that we're loosely discussing here that The majority is often wrong, just to use the example that you used.

01:16:05.000 The majority was perfectly fine with slavery for the vast majority of human history, and for a significant portion of that time it was not sort of racially determined, but just determined by the convenience of who the people were that were available to enslave.

01:16:20.000 And the narratives that grow out of these things are usually convenient in their own way too.

01:16:25.000 So I suppose that's my way of saying that since surrendering, I've lost none of the power granted by the aspect of the left that's correctly focused on fraternity, solidarity.

01:16:45.000 Kindness, service, the interests of the poor, because, you know, there's quite a lot of talk in Christianity about the interests of the poor, of children and widows.

01:16:54.000 There's quite a lot of talk in Christianity about our shared human family.

01:17:00.000 There's quite a lot of talk in Christianity about how every individual has access to God and that it needn't and oughtn't be institutionalized.

01:17:08.000 Now, any sort of Christian who's been doing it for 10 months, and that's about how long I've been doing it, will... 0.70

01:17:14.000 We'll recognise that Christian institutions themselves are hardly immune to exploitation, and a Christian narrative, like any narrative, could be exploited.

01:17:24.000 But without God, without God, and that's the real problem of globalism, and globalism was what was exposed, I would say, in the main during the COVID period, i.e.

01:17:34.000 there are sets of economic, commercial, and state, and bureaucratic interests that co-align, coalesce, and have a shared agenda.

01:17:42.000 That are not only about dominion, profit and finance, but ultimately about control, or as you put it, strip civil liberties.

01:17:50.000 If individuals have no individual or shared power, then what is there to resist this ongoing, encroaching globalist force?

01:18:00.000 And what is primarily necessary for globalism to succeed?

01:18:06.000 Is the imposition of the idea that there is no moral authority transcendent of mankind.

01:18:13.000 There isn't.

01:18:14.000 You can make claims that nature or Gaia has a kind of authority or the cosmos or the Big Bang.

01:18:20.000 So I wonder why you feel there might be an occultist component to many of these stories when you keep looking at them and adrenochrome.

01:18:29.000 How long before you do a documentary where it's about adrenochrome and why are all these children going missing and what's going on?

01:18:36.000 So I just wonder where you think, like, ultimately we're going to need a moral authority.

01:18:41.000 So where do you go and where do you get to with that particular strand?

01:18:45.000 Because to make a film about Anthony Fauci, you have to say there's such a thing as good and there's such a thing as evil.

01:18:51.000 And where do we derive those terms from if we don't have a kind of a spiritual, religious, if not Christian perspective?

01:19:00.000 Well, I consider myself a spiritualist.

01:19:02.000 You know, I've read a lot of texts.

01:19:05.000 Christ's words.

01:19:06.000 I know what he said and did as best I can from Matthew or Paul.

01:19:12.000 But, you know, the rest of it, I think, is an example of what you pointed out with our sort of more unfortunate human instinct.

01:19:23.000 In fact, even blind worship of Christ legalistically.

01:19:30.000 Is the same as a shamanistic or sort of a cult following that you would see for celebrities or the iconography or the idolatry that Moses was upset about at the bottom of the mountain.

01:19:45.000 You know, this is human nature.

01:19:49.000 And we have two aspects of our human nature, good and bad.

01:19:53.000 And instead of thinking evil and good, I think usually sick and well, right?

01:19:59.000 There's a lot of sick people.

01:20:01.000 That's something that helps me and my humanistic view of things.

01:20:05.000 But there is a great deal of evil.

01:20:07.000 And humans can do great evil.

01:20:10.000 And in fact, where the greatest evil can be done is not in...

01:20:14.000 The lone killer on the loose, because actually, as humans, we have a pretty good system for that. 0.99

01:20:21.000 The community would normally, I guess, like 50,000 years ago, 75,000 years ago, we'd band together and hit the guy with a fucking rock. 0.96

01:20:31.000 But nowadays, excuse my language, but nowadays, we have a situation here where... 0.96

01:20:36.000 Actually, our most morally corrupt, our greatest evil, is in the pursuit of global power, is in the conquest of a power yet greater than the one we fathomed before.

01:20:49.000 And that part of human instinct, the formation of governments based on lies and myths, seeking power at that level, seeking wealth at a level a million times more than any of your descendants could ever enjoy.

01:21:04.000 Right?

01:21:05.000 That that is the evil in our hearts, in our heads, that is probably greater than the rapist, the killer, the serial killer even.

01:21:15.000 I mean, there's almost a communal evil, right?

01:21:19.000 And on the flip side, our goodness.

01:21:23.000 Is in our ability to recognize each other when in the same room, when in the same community, two people sworn enemies on the internet or politically can usually sit down and have dinner together or talk about their issues.

01:21:38.000 And after enough time, they usually strike common ground.

01:21:41.000 Because as I said, 99% of the people are essentially powerless.

01:21:45.000 And I don't mean just in America, on the planet.

01:21:48.000 99% of people living on planet Earth right now.

01:21:51.000 Are relatively objectively powerless.

01:21:55.000 And so if we speak for long enough, we're going to strike some common ground in that area.

01:22:00.000 So that is the beauty of our human instinct, is that we have a heart.

01:22:05.000 And true Christianity and spiritualism is about love and compassion.

01:22:11.000 But that can easily be twisted here on Zoom, on social media.

01:22:17.000 In fact, you know, our human frailty.

01:22:22.000 And so what is happening in society is that we are being siloed more and more and encouraged to silo, encouraged to find our family, our chosen family on the internet, through our followers, through our beliefs, through the podcasts that we listen to.

01:22:39.000 And we're being conditioned not to talk to a stranger at a coffee shop or to roll our window down and look a homeless person in the eye.

01:22:49.000 and offer them what you can offer them and that Is the part of our human nature that is the part that you can never take away.

01:22:57.000 And so my response to you, and where do we go with all this?

01:23:00.000 What do we do?

01:23:00.000 It's always going to be about community.

01:23:02.000 It's always going to be about what you can touch and reach with your arm, with your car, how far you can drive in your community and have an effect.

01:23:09.000 Because the global myth that we are meant to consume the news and know what's happening in the world, it is a complete fallacy.

01:23:17.000 The human brain is not meant to conceive the pain of the world and the impact of governments.

01:23:23.000 The human brain is not even capable of conceiving the American government, And yet we vote on it every two years and every four years in a great big spectacle when it is not our instinct to even fathom that grinding machine.

01:23:40.000 And that if we looked at it close enough, we'd be so horrified that we would want nothing to do with it.

01:23:46.000 Yet we pander about these political concepts and who's our party and who's our guy because that team sport mentality that's siloing the public is exactly what makes that evil thrive on a global scale.

01:23:59.000 So my response to it is, go and touch the people in your community.

01:24:04.000 Be willing to have a conversation.

01:24:07.000 Talk to people again.

01:24:08.000 Be in the same room.

01:24:10.000 Because whatever happened with COVID, there was a lot of death.

01:24:14.000 There was a lot of destruction.

01:24:14.000 There was a lot of profit.

01:24:16.000 There was a lot of transfer of wealth.

01:24:18.000 But one of the most tragic things that happened is we are accustomed and we are at peace with living life like this in a series of boxes using technology that many people have enjoyed the comfort of it.

01:24:33.000 And we forgot what it is to go out and speak with another human being, shake their hand, give them a hug.

01:24:40.000 Know what it is to feel in your body the effect of being with another human being because that is our nature and this is not our nature.

01:24:50.000 And so this is being manipulated to divide us.

01:24:54.000 And so I don't have the answer.

01:24:55.000 All I know is that I do give comfort to people like you do in all of your movies that when you're upset after a hard day's work or you're alone or you want answers, people turn my documentaries on or they turn your movies on.

01:25:08.000 And so that's my act of service is just somehow bringing morality to that platform, which is still entertainment and people are consuming it and wanting to escape, but at the same time, leave better than when they came in.

01:25:21.000 And I believe if you watch this movie, you'll be better than you came in.

01:25:24.000 We can watch Thank You, Dr. Fauci by Jenna first.

01:25:29.000 Tell us what the platform is, mate, that it's on.

01:25:33.000 Because I know that you're working with our friend Tucker.

01:25:35.000 Yeah, you know, all my films have been on big, major streamers.

01:25:41.000 And this is the first film that I did completely differently.

01:25:45.000 I did completely independently.

01:25:47.000 My studio put the money in.

01:25:48.000 And I do believe that we've come to a point where this will be on Netflix or Amazon and we're in those talks.

01:25:55.000 But we chose to release it and preview it completely independently because the censorship is so extreme.

01:26:01.000 With this subject that we felt like there could have been a catch and kill.

01:26:05.000 It could have been taken off.

01:26:06.000 So we put it on our website, which is highly secure.

01:26:10.000 And it started to go viral and get a grassroots following.

01:26:13.000 And now Tucker Carlson, who, you know, historically, I would have looked at someone like Tucker Carlson as my enemy, right?

01:26:20.000 I grew up, like I said, in 9-11 and, you know, in many, we hit Fox News, all this stuff.

01:26:25.000 But when I sit with Tucker and we have these conversations, lo and behold, you know.

01:26:29.000 We're having an informed conversation with a sense of commonality, and that is the dialogue that I want to foster.

01:26:38.000 And so he was very gracious in offering Tucker Carlson Network, his platform, as a way to expand the awareness about this film as it previews and gets ready to be on a major streamer, because this is the type of film that People don't want you to see.

01:26:55.000 And so I'm very grateful for that support.

01:26:57.000 And so viewers now can go to Tucker Carlson Network and watch it there.

01:27:02.000 And that's the best place to see it nowadays.

01:27:05.000 You better put it on Facebook before long, mate.

01:27:07.000 The world is changing fast.

01:27:08.000 You're just about to upload it.

01:27:09.000 Mark Zuckerberg will do an intro for it.

01:27:11.000 I don't know who this Anthony Fauci guy is.

01:27:13.000 I've never met him.

01:27:14.000 I've never written letters to him.

01:27:15.000 But you're going to love this film.

01:27:16.000 Thank you, Dr. Fauci.

01:27:17.000 And thank you, mate.

01:27:19.000 I appreciate, Jenna, you making the time to come on our show and your excellent work in making this documentary and some of the other films as well.

01:27:25.000 A real set of very interesting and important topics you've covered, not least the opioid crisis.

01:27:31.000 I mean, the firefest was a little bit more fun, but I'm really excited that you made time to come on here.

01:27:37.000 Jenna, thanks, man.

01:27:39.000 Thank you, Russell.

01:27:39.000 It was a great conversation.

01:27:40.000 I appreciate it.

01:27:42.000 Well, thank you so much for joining us.

01:27:44.000 We've got a brilliant week coming up.

01:27:46.000 Our new show, Oracles, with Neil Oliver and Lara Logan, will be on this Thursday, where we'll be rounding up the week's news.

01:27:54.000 I'll be streaming live tomorrow.

01:27:55.000 Be sure to join us for that.

01:27:57.000 And Wednesday as well.

01:27:58.000 And next week, Jeremy Corbell's coming on the show on Monday to talk to us about UFOs and drones and what the...

01:28:04.000 What's going on in the sky?

01:28:06.000 What is all of this?

01:28:07.000 What is the truth?

01:28:08.000 Can you handle the truth?

01:28:09.000 Oh, probably not.

01:28:09.000 I don't know.

01:28:10.000 See you tomorrow.

01:28:11.000 Not for more of the same, but for more of the different.

01:28:13.000 Until then, if you can, stay free.

01:28:14.000 Switch

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Stay Free - Russel Brand - January 26, 2025

Anthony Fauci Exposed: The Truth Behind His Rise to Power – SF526

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