Stay Free - Russel Brand - Are The Democrats Warmongers? With Guest Tulsi Gabbard - #022 - Stay Free with Russell Brand

00:00:00.000 I'm not going to let you do this.

00:00:29.000 You buy, I buy you.

00:00:36.000 In this video, you're going to see the sea surface.

00:00:48.000 Hello, thanks for joining me for a very special edition of Stay Free with Russell Brand, exclusively live on Rumble.

00:00:56.000 I'm being joined today by Tulsi Gabbard, former Democrat and presidential candidate, political maverick, We've got some great stuff to tell you about over the course of the show.

00:01:18.000 I'm going to tell you how you can join me for a live conversation with Jordan Peterson.

00:01:21.000 But first, let's get into some actual news.

00:01:26.000 Loads of you will be aware that Elon Musk turned up at Twitter with an actual kitchen sink.

00:01:31.000 It's an unusual thing.

00:01:32.000 things we have a quick look at that sir any Elon what what

00:01:44.000 So that's why he's gone in there building, holding the sink.

00:01:48.000 We don't know.

00:01:49.000 It's not necessarily a kitchen.

00:01:50.000 If it was a kitchen sink, then you'd say he's throwing the kitchen sink at it.

00:01:53.000 But do you say that in North America?

00:01:55.000 Let us know in the chat.

00:01:56.000 Do you say kitchen sink?

00:01:58.000 We've got everything but the kitchen sink.

00:01:59.000 That sounds very English, doesn't it?

00:02:03.000 I can't imagine we're going to throw the kitchen sink at it.

00:02:06.000 But then he's sort of South African, isn't he?

00:02:08.000 Yeah.

00:02:09.000 Subhi, I want to tweet him. 0.76

00:02:11.000 I want to tweet Elon and I want to say, now that you, could you please come on our show and explain what you're doing with that sink and could you, that's it really.

00:02:24.000 Is this the right thing to do?

00:02:25.000 Before you press send, I think you might need to... Am I making a mistake?

00:02:28.000 Go through it again, I would say.

00:02:29.000 Please tell us what you're doing.

00:02:31.000 Dear Elon, we're going to tweet him.

00:02:33.000 As you know, if you're a regular viewer of the show, and I hope you are, you can join us every day, you'll know that me and Elon are in contact, but that I, at the moment, am very much the junior partner.

00:02:44.000 If it was a love affair, I'm doing the pushing and I put in.

00:02:47.000 Yeah, so I'm not sure telling us what you're doing with that sink is necessarily the right approach.

00:02:51.000 It's not cool enough, is it?

00:02:52.000 I've got to be funnier than that.

00:02:53.000 I can do better than this.

00:02:54.000 You know like when you're in love with someone and you want every text to have something behind it?

00:02:58.000 I'm at very much of that phase with Elon.

00:03:00.000 Wouldn't it be like, love what you did with the sink or something?

00:03:03.000 How about we jump in a tub?

00:03:05.000 Right, okay, now we're getting somewhere.

00:03:06.000 Right, now okay.

00:03:08.000 Elon, love what you've done with the sink.

00:03:10.000 How about we take in a shower?

00:03:12.000 um careful again i think we should love what you've done with the sink baby i can wash you in 140 characters no elon yeah um oh all right but by the end of the show we are going to send that tweet but before that we'll be talking to maybe people could give us suggestions You send us in the chat what you think we should say to Elon in our tweet.

00:03:34.000 We've had Twitter contact before.

00:03:36.000 Also, I'm thinking of voicenaming him, but if I can't even organize a decent tweet, I'm not going to hit him straight in the inbox.

00:03:44.000 That's the last thing he needs at a time like this.

00:03:45.000 We've been talking about him coming on our show, Stay Free with Russell Brand, and I reckon before long we'll be welcoming him.

00:03:51.000 Is it too late for Kanye?

00:03:52.000 Is it too late for Kanye to come on?

00:03:54.000 I mean, I want Kanye to come on, but Is it, like, will it be troubling for us all?

00:04:00.000 I don't think so.

00:04:01.000 Let's get Kanye on as well.

00:04:02.000 It's time for us to do it.

00:04:03.000 If you've not pressed rumble yet, press rumble now.

00:04:06.000 I don't know why I need you to do it, but by God do I need you to press rumble.

00:04:10.000 It's just nice, isn't it?

00:04:12.000 You'll find it nice to have done it.

00:04:13.000 So...

00:04:15.000 It's not the nuclear button, that's for sure.

00:04:17.000 It's certainly... Oh, good, Gareth.

00:04:20.000 Wait a second, you wait... No, Niora, I will... Elon, I will bathe you in that sink, like in 1940s wartime Britain, when you don't need, like, when your grandparents did.

00:04:32.000 We used to wash in the sink.

00:04:35.000 Yeah, they did say that.

00:04:37.000 This is what they want to tell you.

00:04:38.000 We washed in the sink.

00:04:39.000 I slept in a drawer.

00:04:41.000 They're always on them being in littler things.

00:04:43.000 We played with a button box.

00:04:45.000 That's right.

00:04:45.000 Button box?

00:04:47.000 Do you mean you're clitoris? 1.00

00:04:49.000 Button box is a sewing thing and it's sewing stuff. 0.95

00:04:53.000 That's all it ever was.

00:04:54.000 Tulsi Gabbard's on the line?

00:04:55.000 Oh no, man.

00:04:56.000 That's the last thing you've said.

00:04:57.000 That is the last thing you've said.

00:04:59.000 I can't throw from Tulsi, from Button Boggs to Tulsi.

00:05:02.000 Don't tell me one minute, tell me here, alright?

00:05:05.000 She's always coming.

00:05:06.000 Thank God.

00:05:07.000 Don't say, don't be saying Tulsi's always coming after I've just said... No.

00:05:11.000 Do I?

00:05:12.000 So, like, just as discussed, please tell me when Tulsi is here.

00:05:16.000 Meanwhile, one person who's preparing for real action, someone who knows exactly where the button box be, is Putin.

00:05:24.000 Can you see that?

00:05:25.000 Have you checked him?

00:05:26.000 Preparing for nuclear drills.

00:05:28.000 Once again, in a peculiar interior.

00:05:30.000 That guy's, like, interior design needs some inquiring, but when it comes to preparing for Armageddon, they are second to no one.

00:05:38.000 Let's have a look.

00:05:50.000 Not really.

00:05:51.000 That first bit, you think, oh, that's just a rocket, and then it just engulfs the entire picture, and you're like... And the beep, beep, beep, that's just like, could be a garbage truck reversing.

00:05:59.000 That's right.

00:05:59.000 It's like, oh, just go to the curb, this is no problem.

00:06:01.000 and say, oh no, that's the end of the world.

00:06:03.000 What is that room?

00:06:14.000 Like, what is that vibe?

00:06:15.000 It's sort of neo-classical.

00:06:17.000 There's a lot of sort of references to Greek architecture, about the triangle above the door, the sort of allusions to pillars.

00:06:24.000 The round table, very much Doctor Strange-love.

00:06:27.000 war room and the big board very much strange love in fact young Putin who

00:06:27.000 Yeah.

00:06:31.000 the ever more pertinent named young Putin because of his eerie similarities to Putin as a boy yes you've

00:06:38.000 got you've got the image there that's what Putin looked like as

00:06:42.000 a lad that's what Putin looks like now here's present day Putin 0.53

00:06:45.000 can you pull up for us while we look at the rest of this video of some

00:06:48.000 some images of Dr. Strangelove's war room foreign

00:06:58.000 at land and sea business you know i mean I don't like one minute we're seeing an air missile, then we're seeing a submarine missile.

00:07:05.000 It very much seems like people preparing for all-out nuclear war.

00:07:11.000 He's very calm as well, isn't he?

00:07:13.000 His demeanour... Like, if you... Right, consider this.

00:07:16.000 If Joe Biden's political power is diminishing, if for example you don't think he really has the authority to exert real control over financial and corporate America, then his power is symbolic.

00:07:29.000 And look at Biden as a symbol.

00:07:31.000 He's a symbol of an atrophying democracy, of a weakening democracy, of a democracy that's falling apart.

00:07:37.000 Well, look at how relaxed this dude is in his sort of scar-faced, strange love war pit.

00:07:43.000 Totally chilled, just administering death orders.

00:07:46.000 And also, once again, look at the tech on the submarine here.

00:07:57.000 Yeah, no problem!

00:07:58.000 Just do all the buttons, do all the buttons.

00:08:00.000 Because those buttons, that means launch a nuclear missile, those buttons, doesn't it?

00:08:03.000 Yeah, it's almost robotic, isn't it, the way he's doing that?

00:08:05.000 He don't give a toss.

00:08:06.000 Like, when I think about how anxious I am before sending a text to Elon Musk, or shall I send it? 0.68

00:08:12.000 Oh God, am I going to look silly?

00:08:12.000 Is that right?

00:08:14.000 Okay, launch nuclear missile. 1.00

00:08:15.000 No problem!

00:08:16.000 No problem!

00:08:17.000 If you do like to do this off a washing machine or turning up an iron, This will mean the end of you and everyone you love.

00:08:24.000 No, it doesn't make no difference.

00:08:26.000 Don't make no difference.

00:08:27.000 No problem. 0.95

00:08:28.000 The Russians, they're harder. 1.00

00:08:29.000 And even their propaganda is harder.

00:08:31.000 Our propaganda is so finessed and Calvin Klein and on a beach with a bit of perfume. 1.00

00:08:37.000 Their propaganda, we will kill you. 1.00

00:08:40.000 We're preparing already for practice to kill you. 1.00

00:08:43.000 It's pretty hardcore. 1.00

00:08:45.000 Yeah.

00:08:45.000 We were joking before about the built-in obsolescence.

00:08:48.000 We were joking before about the ludicrous machinery and accoutrements that Putin surround himself with.

00:08:52.000 And you see that sort of like that fax machine thing in the background when they were administering their last set of threats about our bluffing.

00:09:00.000 But I believe that's because they've not been on the trajectory of consumerism and commodification.

00:09:05.000 They're in an alternative narrative.

00:09:08.000 So they don't need to update phones every 10 seconds to keep people happy because they're simply Ready to destroy planet Earth at a moment's notice when it comes to it.

00:09:16.000 There's nothing very fancy about this switchboard of kill buttons, but I bet they do the job.

00:09:22.000 They look like they're off a 1995 Bosch washing machine, but they could Bosch planet Earth into oblivion.

00:09:29.000 Somebody who left the Democrat Party denouncing them as warmongers, giving us new insight into bipartisan politics in the United States and the apparent, what do I want to call it, moral posturing of the Democrat Party.

00:09:43.000 He's our guest today.

00:09:44.000 We're most honoured to welcome Tulsi Gabbard to the show.

00:09:47.000 Tulsi, thank you so much for joining us.

00:09:50.000 Good to talk to you.

00:09:51.000 It's good that we're both in complimentary denim.

00:09:56.000 Yes, exactly.

00:09:57.000 We got the memo in advance.

00:09:59.000 Absolutely.

00:10:00.000 Tulsi, at a time where it appears that we are on the precipice of a potential war, already engaged in a proxy war, your denunciation of the Democrat Party as a warmongering party seems even more damning than it ordinarily might.

00:10:19.000 Are we in a proxy war right now with Russia?

00:10:22.000 And I say we as a meaning sort of like the West, And how high do you regard the potential that this could escalate into something even more serious?

00:10:33.000 Great questions.

00:10:34.000 We are absolutely in a proxy war with Russia, with unfortunately the people of Ukraine being the ones sacrificed in this proxy war.

00:10:44.000 This is not a war that has the United States' efforts to go to war with Russia, to remove Putin from his regime, didn't start with his invasion of Ukraine.

00:10:55.000 This is something that's been building and going on for years and years.

00:10:59.000 This is why I ran for president in 2020, because I saw the writing on the wall of this new Cold War building, these tensions growing, and where a Cold War leads, a Cold War very quickly can turn into a hot war.

00:11:12.000 And when we're talking about two nuclear-armed countries, the two most powerful, nuclear armed countries in the world, Russia having over 6,000

00:11:21.000 nuclear warheads, the United States having over 5,000 nuclear warheads.

00:11:26.000 We are talking about the existential threat of nuclear war.

00:11:31.000 Fast forward to where we sit today.

00:11:33.000 We have seen how this administration, the Biden administration, has at every opportunity,

00:11:39.000 rather than taking advantage of negotiations between Russian officials and Ukrainian officials,

00:11:45.000 being, hey, where do we find this window of opportunity to be a voice for peace, to truly

00:11:49.000 help the people of Ukraine by pushing for a negotiated agreement that would end this

00:11:55.000 war?

00:11:56.000 Instead of doing that, the Biden administration has instead chosen to escalate this war at every opportunity, throwing tens of billions of American taxpayer dollars towards Ukraine and through weapons and trying to escalate this war, pushing us to the point where, you know, the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists and other experts say that we are at a greater risk of nuclear catastrophe now than ever since the Cuban Missile

00:12:22.000 Crisis. We're seeing, as you showed, Russia is testing their nuclear capabilities. The United 0.71

00:12:29.000 States has just, I guess, had a show of force with their hypersonic ballistic missile

00:12:37.000 capabilities. Both sides put edging and rushing closer and closer towards the brink of nuclear disaster,

00:12:44.000 which doesn't just affect people of This is why I've been talking about this everywhere I go.

00:12:49.000 We, the United States, you there in the UK, people around the world, are the ones who will be directly affected by a potential World War III and nuclear war.

00:12:59.000 It really exposes how potentially hollow the humanitarian support of Ukrainian suffering is, and how little investigation there has been into the geopolitical reality that that might lead to.

00:13:13.000 It seems implausible even to imagine, Tulsi, that the modality applied in Conflicts like the Iraqi wars of a decade or so ago or the until recently ongoing conflict in Afghanistan could be applied in a situation where the opponent is able to respond with nuclear force.

00:13:37.000 Is the power of the military-industrial complex over congressional politics so serious, so severe and so absolute that they would Take the action that, you know, against Iraq or Afghanistan seem risky, ridiculous, inhumane, but at least not ultimately apocalyptic.

00:14:02.000 How little insight and how little reflection is there and how great is this power that is external to Congress and actually Where does that boundary lie?

00:14:12.000 Is there a boundary between the military-industrial complex and the Democratic Party?

00:14:15.000 Is this what you fundamentally meant with your accusation, or I suppose diagnosis, that they were a warmongering party?

00:14:24.000 Yeah, the proof is in the pudding, as they say.

00:14:27.000 The relationship between the military-industrial complex and Congress right now is exactly what President Eisenhower warned against.

00:14:36.000 It is incredibly cozy.

00:14:38.000 The revolving door that we see in the halls of Washington, both with former members of Congress, people who leave Congress either as members or as staffers, people who leave the Pentagon and the DoD either uniformed military leaders or civilians, then immediately

00:14:54.000 going and working within the military industrial complex, profiting essentially off of their

00:15:01.000 position and their power.

00:15:03.000 It is a really dangerous thing.

00:15:04.000 And I know you've talked about this in previous shows about the legislation amendments put

00:15:10.000 forward in the U.S. Senate that would essentially literally give a blank check for the DOD to

00:15:15.000 give Ukraine whatever they want, whether they need it or not, and allow big defense contractors

00:15:24.000 to charge whatever they want to the American taxpayer for this so-called aid.

00:15:29.000 I want to go back to what you opened up with about, you know, this guise of humanitarianism

00:15:36.000 that this administration and, frankly, warmongers, Democrat and Republicans in Congress are using

00:15:45.000 to fatten the pockets of the military industrial complex, saying, we have to do this to help

00:15:49.000 the people of Ukraine.

00:15:51.000 You know, we have to do this to save democracy and freedom.

00:15:55.000 But again, at every opportunity, going all the way back to March, about a month after

00:15:59.000 the invasion of Ukraine happened, it was the Biden administration that told Zelensky and

00:16:03.000 the Ukrainian officials, walk away from the negotiating table.

00:16:06.000 In April, there was an off-ramp that looked to be opening up to say, hey, we could bring about an end to this war.

00:16:13.000 In a negotiated agreement, nobody walks away getting everything they want.

00:16:17.000 That is the definition of a negotiation and compromise.

00:16:21.000 But there was an opportunity then to end this war.

00:16:23.000 It was Biden and his administration, once again, who shut that door completely and instead chose to escalate it.

00:16:30.000 Now, just a few days ago, we see how in control the Democratic Party is of the warmongers and um uh the military industrial complex when we had these you know 30 or so so-called progressive democrats in congress write a letter to the president saying uh just the truth diplomacy exercise diplomacy because if this war continues on it will only continue to bear a heavy cost on the people of ukraine and the people of the united states and i want to um i want to just read a quote from that letter because

00:17:08.000 It's so interesting.

00:17:09.000 It's very brief.

00:17:10.000 They wrote in this letter, a war that is allowed to grind on for years, potentially escalating in intensity and geographic scope, threatens to displace, kill, and immiserate far more Ukrainians while causing hunger, poverty, and death around the world.

00:17:26.000 The conflict has also contributed to elevated gas and food prices here at home, fueling inflation and high oil prices for Americans in recent months.

00:17:33.000 They wrote this letter on October 24th.

00:17:37.000 On October 25th, after getting a huge backlash from their warmongering Democrat leaders and their cohorts in the mainstream media, these so-called progressives could not retract that letter fast enough, could not completely change their position to say no diplomacy.

00:17:56.000 At all.

00:17:57.000 And the quote in their letter on October 25th that jumped out at me was Pramila Jayapal, a congresswoman from Washington state, said, every war ends with diplomacy and this one will too after Ukrainian victory.

00:18:12.000 She clearly doesn't understand what diplomacy means, how a war, a negotiated end to this war can come about, It's a nonsensical statement.

00:18:22.000 They are cowering in fear of the backlash that came from these warmongers controlling the Democrat Party.

00:18:28.000 This is one of the main reasons that I left, and I think it's a reason why more and more people in this country are recognizing that this party and those who are in control, this elite cabal of warmongers, are putting all of our lives and the world as we know it at risk.

00:18:46.000 We appear to be alighting into the monomaniacal language of absolute tyranny in so many ways.

00:18:54.000 A figure like you, a voice like yours, in this homogenized landscape always stands out.

00:19:00.000 At this moment you are, as I understand, independent, but there is a sense that you are moving towards a kind of Republican position and affiliation.

00:19:11.000 This ultra-political position that you currently occupy, a condemnation of systemic corruption, the alliance between the political state and the corporate and financial world, the support of globalist agenda, the inability of ordinary people to have their voices heard, do you think that you can maintain that position In the Republican Party any more than you could within the Democrat Party.

00:19:39.000 And what does it say about our systems that these outlier voices such as yours and obvious notable ones in both the Democrat Party and the Republican Party are emerging?

00:19:50.000 And how will these voices ever be ultimately heard?

00:19:54.000 How will these voices become anything other than rhetorical with the intransigence that currently exists within US politics?

00:20:03.000 Oh, first of all, I'm an independent and I don't have any plans to join the Republican Party.

00:20:07.000 It's not something I'm thinking about.

00:20:09.000 I've always been a very independent minded person, and I will continue to be that way.

00:20:17.000 I've always Made sure that as I looked at policies and positions that I've taken, my interest, my objective, my goal is to put the interests of the American people in our country ahead of any political interest, for that matter.

00:20:31.000 I have been even-handed in my criticisms and praise of, while I was in Congress, of both Democrat presidents and Republican presidents, Democrat leaders and Republican leaders, because that's what we need. 0.71

00:20:43.000 We need leaders in both political parties Who have integrity and who can speak the truth.

00:20:50.000 Who aren't just thinking about, well, what's my next political step and I will do anything and everything to get there.

00:20:57.000 This was something, and I was elected in 2012 to Congress and it really struck me when within just the first few weeks of being there, we had, I think it was 84, 85 new members of Congress, a mix of Democrats and Republicans.

00:21:12.000 We were there talking about meeting each other and how do we start solving problems?

00:21:16.000 How do we work together to start solving problems?

00:21:18.000 Well, very quickly, unbeknownst to us, our group would be separated into two.

00:21:24.000 Democrats went into one room, Republicans went into the other room, and we were both essentially given the same message, which is You have to put party first.

00:21:33.000 You have to put team first.

00:21:36.000 It doesn't matter if you want to work with somebody because they've got a great idea.

00:21:40.000 You might actually help them look good and make it harder for us to beat them in the next election.

00:21:46.000 Or, you know, there might be a Republican who has a great idea, And putting forward strong legislation.

00:21:52.000 We're not going to push that legislation forward because there's a Republican name that's sponsoring it.

00:21:57.000 We'll just kind of take the idea and put a Democrat name next to it.

00:22:01.000 It's this hyper-partisanship and this team spirit mentality that is everything that's wrong with Washington.

00:22:07.000 And it's why people here in the United States feel so left behind.

00:22:11.000 You know, we have people in Washington who are continually trying to advance their position,

00:22:18.000 strengthen their party's position.

00:22:21.000 And meanwhile, people who are trying to make the decisions about whether they can afford

00:22:25.000 to fill up the gas tank or buy groceries for their kids, that is the reality that they

00:22:29.000 are dealing with.

00:22:31.000 Meanwhile, leaders in Washington are just out of touch.

00:22:34.000 So I think it's most important for us as Americans and as we look to leaders in this country

00:22:40.000 and to be leading voices ourselves, to really think about how do we put the people first,

00:22:47.000 fighting for peace, recognizing that without peace, we cannot achieve prosperity, we cannot

00:22:52.000 truly be free.

00:22:56.000 The more we do that, then the more we can get past empty rhetoric and empty words and actually bring about change through leaders who have their priorities straight.

00:23:09.000 You think that you can make a significant difference in this tribalized and entrenched system independently then?

00:23:18.000 Do you, as people, have I suppose, reflected, imagined, speculated, consider it a possibility that you could form an alliance with Donald Trump.

00:23:30.000 Is that something that you've thought about?

00:23:33.000 Is it something that you would consider doing?

00:23:37.000 It's not something I've thought about.

00:23:38.000 I don't know what he's doing or what any other political official is doing in the coming years.

00:23:44.000 What I'm 100% focused on is finding fellow Americans who share my love of country, my goal of being of service to the American people and putting their interests first.

00:23:56.000 And upholding the Constitution and protecting our God-given rights and freedoms that are enshrined in the Constitution from those who seek to undermine them.

00:24:05.000 You know, there are a lot of voices in the mainstream media here and in our politics whose goal is to try to divide us and distract us By being one group against the other, just as President Biden did in his speech in Philadelphia, where he basically said that anybody who voted for Donald Trump are an extremist threat to our country.

00:24:31.000 Many of his supporters saying that these people are a greater threat to our country than the Al Qaeda terrorists who attacked us on 9-11.

00:24:41.000 They are doing this Not addressing the substance of the real challenges and struggles that we are facing, not addressing the fact that their policies and actions have gotten us to this point where we are closer to the brink of a nuclear war than we have been since the Cuban Missile Crisis.

00:24:57.000 Instead, they're just focused on trying to silence those who are dissenting voices.

00:25:03.000 Smear the character of anyone who dares to take a stand for peace, to take a stand for the people, anyone who dares to challenge whatever their narrative of the day is.

00:25:13.000 And this is why I left the Democrat Party and why I'm speaking out so forcefully, calling on other Democrats, my fellow Americans, to take a stand With me, because regardless of party, we as Americans, we need to take a stand to protect our freedoms before they have been so eroded and so far gone that it will be very difficult to get them back.

00:25:34.000 If within the limitations of Congressional, or in our country, Parliamentary democracy, it seems that there is no possibility of real change, it seems that the parameters of neoliberalism, which are extraneous to party division, are what truly defines political discourse, are what truly defines policy, when it seems that more than ever the edicts that we see expressed in Parliamentary or Congressional democracy are coming from Supernational agencies such as the WHO, IMF, even WEF.

00:26:09.000 How is it possible to, within these institutions, instantiate real change?

00:26:14.000 Are we not, at this point, looking at a type of politics that truly is grassroots, that truly is about the mobilization of ordinary Americans and indeed ordinary people around the world?

00:26:26.000 We've seen now that there is this ongoing tendency to use crises, whether it's the pandemic or the current war or the 2008 crash, to create division among people and to utilize these times of crisis to bring about measures of regulation, opportunity for big tech.

00:26:48.000 We know that there was a wealth transfer during that pandemic.

00:26:52.000 Is it possible, Tulsi, to bring about change within these institutions, or ought we be looking now at the creations of systems that are outside of conventional and traditional politics?

00:27:04.000 Essentially, something that is, you know, when you talk about mobilizing American people, It's pretty clear that with the influence yielded over both the Democrat Party and the Republican Party by their lobbyists and donors, no meaningful change can take place within that framework.

00:27:23.000 It's very similar in our country.

00:27:25.000 It's very similar across Europe.

00:27:28.000 Are we not in fact therefore talking about entirely new and genuinely democratic political movements that are outside of Congress rather than changes from within it?

00:27:41.000 Look, I think, you know, I think we need to pursue change across the board.

00:27:46.000 I've been spending the last, gosh, week and a half or so, and I'll be on the road for the next couple of weeks until our elections, looking for those who have stepped up courageously to go and try to bring about change within the existing system.

00:28:02.000 Because we cannot afford to wait.

00:28:04.000 We can't afford to spend, you know, however many years building some kind of

00:28:09.000 external system, I'm not sure exactly what that would look like, while there are threats

00:28:15.000 to our children, to our safety and security, to our freedom that are occurring right now.

00:28:22.000 We need strong leaders within this political system who can be a check and balance on the

00:28:29.000 power of this administration and those who seek to abuse their powers now.

00:28:33.000 We can't afford to wait.

00:28:35.000 There are people like a guy named Joe Kent, who's running for Congress in Washington State.

00:28:41.000 He served as a soldier for 20 years in the Special Forces.

00:28:45.000 His wife also served.

00:28:46.000 She was killed by ISIS in Syria, leaving him to raise their two young sons together.

00:28:53.000 He is taking no money from any corporate PACs or lobbyists.

00:28:58.000 Every dollar that he has raised has come through those grassroots donations.

00:29:03.000 His, in just a few examples, his entire staff, everyone from his campaign manager down to, you know, the college kids who are knocking on doors trying to get out the votes in the final days of this election, every one of them has refused to take any pay from the campaign

00:29:18.000 during this final month so that they can use every one of those dollars

00:29:22.000 to continue to get their message out to voters in the district.

00:29:27.000 He has seen the cost of war.

00:29:28.000 He has experienced that incredible, unimaginable loss in the death of his wife in combat.

00:29:35.000 And he is a truly brave and courageous voice calling out for an end to this proxy war with Russia,

00:29:41.000 calling out for an end of the United States policy of being the policemen around the world,

00:29:46.000 launching one regime, change war after another.

00:29:49.000 And he speaks from such a powerful place of experience.

00:29:52.000 There are others like him.

00:29:55.000 It's going to take a lot of work.

00:29:56.000 It's not the majority yet by any means, but it's people like Joe who I'm supporting to bring about that exact change from within the system now.

00:30:06.000 I'm curious as to whether Joe Kemp, forgive my ignorance, I've not heard of him before, is running as a Republican or a Democrat.

00:30:16.000 My assumption is that what the emergent political force or energy appears to be internationally is a kind of anti-elitist, pro-populist sensibility that currently need not be necessarily conventionally right-wing or conventionally left wing, that there is a sense, in my opinion, Tulsi, a

00:30:41.000 kind of fusion of libertarianism and decentralization, that ideas around community, whether

00:30:49.000 they are progressive or traditional, appear to be more important than ever.

00:30:55.000 Can I ask, what do you think is the significance of Elon Musk's potential takeover of Twitter

00:31:04.000 and how this relates to free speech?

00:31:07.000 Why is Elon Musk regarded as a distinct billionaire, as opposed to the other billionaires that

00:31:15.000 own other comparable sites?

00:31:18.000 And what are your concerns around the subject of free speech?

00:31:22.000 And do you think that what we're witnessing is a curation of new public spaces in order to manage the discourse around power and to ensure that grassroots movements cannot compete on a level playing field?

00:31:40.000 Yeah, gosh, there's a few points, really important points that you brought up there.

00:31:44.000 The first one, you talked about populism and how there is this growing anti-elite sentiment

00:31:51.000 by people both here in the United States, people who are from across the political spectrum,

00:31:57.000 who are just sick and tired of being seen as the subjects of our rulers, the elite,

00:32:04.000 the permanent Washington here in our case.

00:32:07.000 But we're seeing similar kinds of energy and I guess movements building in other countries

00:32:12.000 in the world as well because as you mentioned, there's a number of these multinational globalist

00:32:17.000 entities who are seeking to exert their mandates on us as a people in this world.

00:32:24.000 And they are very directly tied to, you know, the corporations who profit based on based on their edict.

00:32:33.000 So it's no wonder.

00:32:34.000 It's no wonder that there are people who are standing up and just saying, look, we've had enough.

00:32:39.000 And it does across party lines.

00:32:41.000 And that's a good thing.

00:32:42.000 I remember I had a conversation with someone when I was in Congress in Washington and I don't recall what organization they were with, but they were sitting in my office and they were talking about the rise of populism as though it was one of the greatest threats to society as a whole.

00:33:00.000 And I smiled and I just asked them why.

00:33:03.000 Why is populism such a dirty word in your mind?

00:33:07.000 And they didn't really have a good answer, but the subtext was very clear that with the rise of the people and the power of people's voices challenging the few, the powerful, the elite, of course they feel threatened, which should just empower us even more, which goes to your next point about Elon Musk and free speech.

00:33:31.000 It is because they are so threatened by a free people who can think for ourselves, speak, you know, speak our mind and our views and our beliefs, very robustly engage in this marketplace of ideas that scares them, that scares the power elite who are in charge.

00:33:49.000 So of course, and this includes some of these billionaires who are so afraid to stand up and take a stand

00:33:54.000 like Elon Musk has.

00:33:56.000 It's why he's gotten such a backlash with his purchase of Twitter and his true commitment

00:34:01.000 stringently to free speech, whether you like it or not, which by the way, the ACLU and Democrats used to be that.

00:34:09.000 They used to be those champions of speech, no matter how abhorrent that speech might be.

00:34:15.000 I.

00:34:17.000 What's dangerous about what's happening here is with Elon Musk continuing to forge ahead very correctly in his commitment to free speech and how he wants to change Twitter to be a truly free marketplace of ideas.

00:34:31.000 The power leader so threatened by it that they are launching the muscle of the federal government against him, basically saying, well, we're going to just start investigating Elon Musk.

00:34:42.000 We need to start looking at what rules he may have broken or what regulations he may not be following.

00:34:47.000 Not because they've got evidence of any wrongdoing, but here's a guy who poses a threat to them because they want to be the ones to say, well, these are the only voices we want heard.

00:34:58.000 This is what we deem to be information versus disinformation.

00:35:02.000 Nobody else gets to do that but us.

00:35:06.000 They're afraid of a free people with free voices and a free society, and that's why it's dangerous as we are seeing how they're trying to take down people like Elon Musk, who has the means and resources to actually join the people in standing up and fighting to uphold those freedoms, obviously here in the United States, but with Twitter it affects People around the world.

00:35:29.000 Tulsi, I believe in God.

00:35:30.000 I wonder if you believe in God.

00:35:33.000 From this position of my love of God, I am confused at times by the ferocity of the current cultural war.

00:35:44.000 Believing myself that whether these arguments are approached from the libertarian right or the socially justice-oriented left, that individual freedom And a continual undergirding and recourse to principles, undergirding by and recourse to principles such as compassion, kindness, tolerance and forgiveness would seem obvious on both ends of that spectrum.

00:36:10.000 It confuses me that there is so much vociferousness, angst and antipathy, particularly in American culture, but across the world now, around these cultural issues.

00:36:22.000 You've spoken about some of these ideas at the moment, recently at least, and I wonder what it is that informs your opinion and how you align them with what I would understand as spiritual principles that amount to love and unity and acceptance.

00:36:42.000 You know, I do my very best to please God and to love God with all my heart every day.

00:36:49.000 He is the center of my life and I have dedicated my life to service because what better way to make God happy than to work for the well-being of God's children and our planet.

00:37:04.000 One of the things that I talked about in my statement of leaving the Democrat Party is because these people, the leaders of this party, are so hostile towards anyone who is a person of faith or those who have their own spiritual practice.

00:37:22.000 They are directly undermining Our constitutional principle of freedom of religion.

00:37:28.000 It's not freedom from religion.

00:37:30.000 It is freedom of religion for every one of us to develop our own personal loving relationship with God in whatever way we choose or not at all.

00:37:39.000 And you can directly link this hostility towards people of faith and towards spirituality really with their own desire to see themselves as God.

00:37:51.000 to see themselves as controllers and rulers of others, of the people.

00:37:57.000 And so it's no wonder that we hear such hatred and vitriol coming from them, rather than allowing God, who sits in every one of our hearts, to inspire that kindness and compassion and understanding and forgiveness that really comes from His unconditional love for every single one of us as people.

00:38:20.000 As the culture appears to continue to disintegrate and become more and more defined by tension and conflict, it seems to me that centralised power, whether it's government or corporate, seems less and less legitimate and less and less valid and less and less tenable.

00:38:42.000 For there to be real change, is it not clear that what we need is a type of new confederacy?

00:38:49.000 A new dissolution of power?

00:38:51.000 More ability for people to organise their own communities along the lines of their own values?

00:38:57.000 And doesn't this principle negate the necessity for this ongoing cultural conflict?

00:39:03.000 Isn't true freedom the freedom for each community to decide what their values are?

00:39:09.000 Outside of what would seem to me to be some pretty obvious Sesame Street values around kindness, compassion, tolerance, not killing one another, that kind of stuff.

00:39:17.000 What are your views on decentralization and how decentralization might diffuse much of this current cultural conflict?

00:39:29.000 You know, I think that with many of the things here that we've seen play out over the last few years,

00:39:35.000 especially, but really over a longer period of time, more and more people are opening their eyes to,

00:39:42.000 you know, big brother, big government, intruding into just about every parts of our lives

00:39:49.000 and dictating to us what we can and can't do, what we can and can't read or see or hear or believe

00:39:58.000 with the force of law and really serious consequences coming behind it, forcing compliance.

00:40:08.000 Just one example that we're seeing happening here now is with the Biden administration

00:40:12.000 taking this transgender ideology and rather than changing the definition

00:40:19.000 or basically going to Congress to try to make the changes that they want to make,

00:40:24.000 they're instead backdooring them through executive branch rule changes to our schools and telling our schools that.

00:40:34.000 You know, are charged with teaching our young kids that unless you implement what they call gender-affirming care, I know you've talked about this, which essentially is this very harmful gender ideology that they're imposing on our kids, unless these schools allow, you know, young boys to go into young girls' bathrooms and locker rooms just because they say, well, you know what, I'm identifying as a girl, putting these girls at risk, If schools don't comply with that change, the federal government, the Biden administration, is saying, well, we are going to yank federal funding for kids who qualify for free and reduced lunches.

00:41:15.000 It's a designated category for kids who are living in poverty, who don't have money to be able to come and afford to buy their school breakfast or lunch.

00:41:23.000 Putting at risk the most vulnerable among us so that they can force compliance amongst parents and teachers and our society.

00:41:33.000 So I think a lot of people seeing this sort of thing play out,

00:41:37.000 people who may not have been involved with politics before, are waking up to how dangerous these policies are

00:41:45.000 specifically, but really looking at limited government in a whole new way

00:41:50.000 and promoting the self-governance that our founders had for the United States of America.

00:41:58.000 I would certainly advocate for any young person to express themselves and their identity however

00:42:04.000 they wanted to.

00:42:05.000 I feel that what I'm hearing you say, Tulsi, is that you don't believe that this is something that should be legislated for or enforced, imposed or engineered at a governmental level.

00:42:15.000 But my understanding of individual liberty would certainly include the liberty to freely express yourself as you want to.

00:42:25.000 Is that basically where you see that line as being?

00:42:28.000 That's right.

00:42:29.000 Parents have the right and responsibility to raise their own children in the way that they choose with their own values and their own principles.

00:42:36.000 Parents should not be under the situation we are now to send their kids to school

00:42:42.000 and have these different values and ideologies and principles being imposed on their kids,

00:42:48.000 oftentimes without their knowledge in our schools.

00:42:52.000 Of course, people should have the freedom to express themselves,

00:42:55.000 but when we're talking about kids who are being fed propaganda and lied to

00:43:02.000 and put in a situation where at 10 years old, 11 years old, they're being given puberty blockers

00:43:07.000 and told to get irreversible surgeries, that is something that is actually harmful to our kids

00:43:14.000 because they're not in any kind of position to be able to make a life-changing decision at that age.

00:43:20.000 Tulsi, I wonder if this aspect of the culture war is yet another way that people are being divided, that divisions are being stoked, and could it not be said that this also serves as a way to distract us broadly from our general Unity and our necessity to come together wherever we are on the cultural spectrum to focus on the true challenge that we have facing centralized elitist power that responds not to the democratic will of ordinary people but to edicts that come from a kind of collusion between a co-opted state and corporate and financial interests.

00:44:07.000 How can we galvanize people who may traditionally ...have regarded themselves as being at odds.

00:44:15.000 If we continue to stoke these kind of arguments, how do we categorise the significance of these various strata of challenges, from centralised financial power, military-industrial complex, and these cultural issues, which I recognise bring about a lot of energy and bring about a lot of division, but by my reckoning are an area that we I think that the word culture war is often thrown about without it having a clear definition.

00:44:50.000 I'll tell you, Russell, what I hear from parents as I'm traveling across the country as we speak.

00:44:57.000 I'm here in Salt Lake City, Utah today.

00:44:59.000 Parents are concerned for the well-being of their children.

00:45:02.000 They're concerned about what kind of education their kids are getting.

00:45:06.000 Families who live along the southern border are worried about their safety and security.

00:45:12.000 So a lot of these different things that are often labeled as culture war issues

00:45:16.000 that are being used to tear people apart, well, if you go and actually talk to people

00:45:20.000 who are being impacted and affected by a lot of these things,

00:45:23.000 it's not some fancy rhetorical debate that's going on.

00:45:29.000 These are very real things that are impacting their lives.

00:45:32.000 And I think these are the things that we need to be able to unite around, making sure that

00:45:38.000 our kids are safe and are able to be kids and grow in a free society, making sure that,

00:45:45.000 you know, our loved ones are safe in the communities that we live in, making sure that we as people

00:45:51.000 are free to make our own decisions for ourselves and our families.

00:45:55.000 So I don't think you can separate the two as well.

00:46:00.000 Neither of these issues fall in the bucket of culture wars, whereas these other issues,

00:46:04.000 which are very important, that have to do with our governance and the systems that we

00:46:09.000 have in our society that are not working for the people.

00:46:13.000 We can't, we can't separate the two.

00:46:15.000 I think we got to get past the labels that are being used to divide us and tear us apart as people.

00:46:22.000 And actually, once again, just focus on how are these different policies and actions at different levels of our government impacting us?

00:46:31.000 And are they helping us?

00:46:33.000 Or hurting us?

00:46:34.000 Are they making us more free or less free?

00:46:37.000 Getting back to the basics, I think, is the key for us to be able to start to move forward, to come together as people, and to figure out how we actually start to solve some of these problems together.

00:46:48.000 Tarsi, thank you for being such a vital voice in this new, hopefully transcendent phase

00:46:57.000 where it's no longer considered malignant to have a conversation, where it's no longer

00:47:03.000 considered toxic to speak to people from across a variety of potential political and ideological

00:47:10.000 territories.

00:47:11.000 Ultimately, human beings are going to express themselves in myriad ways, and if we're looking

00:47:17.000 for some kind of homogeneity, how will we ever challenge hegemony?

00:47:23.000 We can't ever challenge this elite power that is being expressed globally unless we're willing

00:47:29.000 to find new forms of alliance.

00:47:31.000 Unless we are willing to find new ways about speaking about being human.

00:47:35.000 New ways, I believe, of expressing our common humanity, our common divinity, and our shared relationship with God.

00:47:43.000 And I'm very grateful to you for spending some time with us.

00:47:47.000 I really hope we get to spend some time in this same physical space and continue this conversation.

00:47:55.000 I'd love that, Russell.

00:47:55.000 I want to add one last thing because you ended that perfectly on a beautiful note, which really encapsulates what we in Hawaii know and call as the Aloha spirit.

00:48:05.000 I know you've been to Hawaii.

00:48:07.000 I know you've been surrounded by Aloha, but that's really what Aloha is.

00:48:11.000 It's not It's not just hello or goodbye, it doesn't mean that at all.

00:48:14.000 The reason why we in Hawai'i greet each other with aloha is because it is a recognition that no matter where we come from, our background, our views, our politics, or any of these things, it's a recognition that we are all connected, we are all children of God, and when we can engage with each other in that space, anything is possible.

00:48:35.000 I've known that when I was in Hawaii because what I actually felt was that I was there for three months and I was on one of the islands which I think was near an Air Force base and I was making a movie there and I felt a little bit trapped there and anywhere where you're contained for a little while can become a bit like a penitentiary.

00:48:51.000 I think I got cabin fever.

00:48:53.000 You know if you stay somewhere for too long that's a holiday destination?

00:48:56.000 I bet you spend a lot of time in hotels on various campaign trials.

00:48:59.000 You can go a little bit crazy.

00:49:01.000 If I'd known that in every greeting I was being accepted for who I was, I think I wouldn't have panicked so much.

00:49:09.000 We'll show you the real Hawaii.

00:49:09.000 You gotta come back.

00:49:12.000 Tulsi, thank you.

00:49:13.000 Thank you very much.

00:49:14.000 My next phone call will be to you to book a short, brief, and nevertheless intrusive holiday.

00:49:21.000 Sounds good.

00:49:22.000 Thank you, Tulsi.

00:49:23.000 Thank you for your time.

00:49:25.000 Thank you so much.

00:49:26.000 There we go.

00:49:27.000 There's an interview with Tulsi Gabbard.

00:49:29.000 Next Tuesday we're going to be speaking to Jordan Peterson.

00:49:32.000 So that's JB at 5 a.m.

00:49:34.000 PT and 8 a.m.

00:49:36.000 ET, 12 p.m.

00:49:37.000 GMT.

00:49:38.000 You can work out what all of those letters and numbers mean because I'd be lying if I said I understood them.

00:49:44.000 Now, let's, among ourselves, do a little review of how well I'd just done, and if I did anything that was a bit odd.

00:49:52.000 You were very good.

00:49:53.000 I think I did quite well.

00:49:55.000 Some of the sentences might have been a bit too long.

00:49:56.000 A little bit long, a couple of them.

00:49:58.000 I know, but I was trying to pack in a few questions per announcement.

00:50:01.000 No, I thought you did very well.

00:50:03.000 Alright, wasn't it?

00:50:03.000 Yeah, I thought it was great.

00:50:05.000 And the ones that strayed a bit long, I thought, I wonder how she'll do with this, but... She actually was categorising, thanks.

00:50:10.000 People in the chat, Shadow726, loved it.

00:50:14.000 Gin Phenomenon, or Gin Phoenix, sorry.

00:50:17.000 Great job, Russell.

00:50:18.000 You did excellent, Russell, says BiteyDog.

00:50:21.000 It was worth the wait.

00:50:22.000 Well done, well done.

00:50:23.000 Great pace, says Mama Barlow.

00:50:25.000 Go Russell, says Rosie3.

00:50:27.000 See, lots of mostly praise.

00:50:29.000 Thank you.

00:50:30.000 There was that one moment where I thought, oh no, what's he doing?

00:50:33.000 What's going to happen now?

00:50:34.000 What bit?

00:50:35.000 Where you said, I love God.

00:50:36.000 See, I believe in God.

00:50:38.000 And then there was a pause and I thought, what's he going to say?

00:50:45.000 Sometimes I like, I do this pretty regular in my interviews, the old God announcement.

00:50:49.000 I don't know if you've seen that before.

00:50:51.000 I'll just tell people I believe in God, see what they do with it.

00:50:54.000 Yeah.

00:50:54.000 Well, she liked that as well, I thought.

00:50:56.000 You're much more safe with an American with the old I love God announcement. 1.00

00:51:01.000 You know, like you try it sometimes with an atheist, like we've had great people like Sam Harris on the show, Ricky Gervais, you know, and you start proudly announcing you love God to them.

00:51:11.000 They're like, well, it's made up.

00:51:14.000 They're not on the old pathway with old Russ and the loving Lord.

00:51:19.000 Anyway, I think you're feeling good?

00:51:23.000 Yeah, what I thought I'd do is be really respectful and quite still.

00:51:27.000 Yes, you were very still.

00:51:28.000 There was hardly any movement.

00:51:31.000 I know, I've been nice and still.

00:51:32.000 Normally you're fidgeting all over the place, usually.

00:51:34.000 I don't know what it's done to the pound.

00:51:35.000 It's probably been beneficial, I'd have thought, that kind of stillness.

00:51:39.000 That's what the pound was requiring at a time like that.

00:51:42.000 Did you ever get a bit where you thought, I really want to scratch that itch or anything like that?

00:51:46.000 Nah.

00:51:46.000 Nah?

00:51:47.000 You were just firmly focused?

00:51:48.000 I just was glad my hair was looking pretty good.

00:51:50.000 Got it.

00:51:51.000 Occasionally I glance at someone and think, yeah, hair's good.

00:51:53.000 I did want to know, can they see me when I'm not on camera?

00:51:57.000 That's what I want to know.

00:51:58.000 Yeah, good.

00:51:59.000 Can they?

00:52:01.000 I think we need to have it so they can, because I'm doing some pretty good eye contact, and like when Eckhart said it, so I think that's another thing we need to sort out.

00:52:06.000 Elon tweet.

00:52:08.000 Oh, Elon tweet.

00:52:09.000 Yeah, let's do that Elon tweet.

00:52:10.000 OK.

00:52:11.000 The tech thing we should sort out so that they can see me, because I want them to be able to see a lot more, because I'm doing some great faces.

00:52:17.000 Oh, I thought James just meant Elon's tweeted.

00:52:20.000 Elon's tweeted.

00:52:21.000 What?

00:52:22.000 I love it!

00:52:23.000 What does it say?

00:52:24.000 Oh, my!

00:52:25.000 This is the day!

00:52:26.000 Tss, tss, tss, tss.

00:52:30.000 Elon, you're gonna need that sink for what I call a gentleman's wash. 1.00

00:52:35.000 That's a quick rinse of the most necessary... The gentleman's wash, the gentleman's wash.

00:52:41.000 There it is.

00:52:42.000 Let it all out now.

00:52:43.000 Why do top to toe when we all know it's only one part that's required?

00:52:50.000 This is it.

00:52:51.000 From here to here, especially if you're British, if you haven't had the good old snip. 1.00

00:52:58.000 This is what's actually going on in Russell's mind.

00:53:01.000 Do you ever hear Tulsi interview?

00:53:04.000 Hot and cold blend.

00:53:06.000 Hit it back and wash it off.

00:53:08.000 There's my little friend.

00:53:10.000 Why am I pretending to be so nice when this guy's in charge?

00:53:14.000 When he's little I give him a smile but boy do I love him when he's large.

00:53:19.000 Oh, Tulsi did you like that chat?

00:53:23.000 But this is who I really am.

00:53:25.000 Please, please, please tell me Tulsi's still watching.

00:53:29.000 Russell, I didn't like that song.

00:53:31.000 That was childish.

00:53:32.000 It undermined... Who's washing what in the sink?

00:53:35.000 Oh, sorry, Tulsa.

00:53:37.000 Sorry, Charles.

00:53:39.000 Sorry, Charles.

00:53:42.000 I believe in God!

00:53:44.000 Do you?

00:53:47.000 Sorry, I meant to say, what was that song?

00:53:49.000 I believe in God!

00:53:51.000 I believe in God, pals!

00:53:54.000 Do you believe in God?

00:53:56.000 Pals! 0.98

00:53:57.000 God pals.

00:54:00.000 Is it all out now?

00:54:00.000 There you go.

00:54:01.000 A lot of people have said no more Mickey Quimby goes, no more Aloha for you after that little performance.

00:54:10.000 Yeah, no, I've blown it.

00:54:11.000 I've blown it!

00:54:12.000 Right, what are we going to do about Eckhart Tolle before we go?

00:54:15.000 We've got some great guests coming up over the course of the week.

00:54:18.000 Jeffrey Sachs, who's joining us Wednesday.

00:54:20.000 You know Jeffrey Sachs.

00:54:23.000 He's coming on the show, isn't he?

00:54:25.000 Yeah, he sure is.

00:54:26.000 Very excited.

00:54:26.000 That's Wednesday.

00:54:27.000 Thursday we've got booked.

00:54:28.000 There he is!

00:54:29.000 That's my mate, Geoffrey Satt.

00:54:30.000 I can't wait.

00:54:30.000 We're deciding whether or not to just try and get him to do that the whole time, aren't we?

00:54:35.000 Yeah.

00:54:35.000 He does that when he feels censored or shocked.

00:54:37.000 Yeah, we just need to shut down everything he says.

00:54:40.000 Hi, Geoffrey.

00:54:41.000 Hello.

00:54:41.000 Oi!

00:54:42.000 Don't say hello!

00:54:43.000 Do you know that that actually is a nautical greeting?

00:54:46.000 It's not even... People used to say hi, hello.

00:54:49.000 Actually, hello used to be an expression of surprise.

00:54:51.000 You know that, don't you?

00:54:52.000 Say aloha instead.

00:54:53.000 Say aloha.

00:54:54.000 Oi! 0.98

00:54:55.000 No, not like that!

00:54:56.000 You said it in a racist way!

00:54:58.000 Say it properly!

00:54:59.000 What, five minutes till the end of the show?

00:55:00.000 Okay, look, so we've got a great week coming up, but I want to, um... You want to do a song again, don't you?

00:55:06.000 I do want to do some more songs, girl.

00:55:08.000 I'll level with cha.

00:55:11.000 But also, I want to do... I want to... Are we going to tweet Elon?

00:55:17.000 Because we've got to get him on.

00:55:18.000 Right.

00:55:19.000 Have we got suggestions?

00:55:22.000 Why haven't you suggested nothing? 0.99

00:55:23.000 And don't suggest something stupid because what if I do it by mistake? 0.99

00:55:27.000 You know? 0.98

00:55:27.000 Have anyone got any ideas among us as a group what I should say? 0.98

00:55:32.000 Elon, do I base it on The Sink?

00:55:34.000 I think base it on The Sink.

00:55:35.000 Base it on The Sink?

00:55:36.000 Yeah.

00:55:36.000 Right.

00:55:37.000 Elon, you've bought The Sink.

00:55:40.000 I'll bring The Stink.

00:55:42.000 How about me and you?

00:55:43.000 No, that doesn't sound right.

00:55:44.000 Does it always come to this?

00:55:48.000 You turn up the horseship, I'll turn up the... Elon, do you want me to wrench around your plughole?

00:55:53.000 No.

00:55:54.000 Elon, I've got... What am I going to say?

00:55:57.000 That's just none of these so far.

00:55:57.000 Right.

00:55:59.000 So far, is it because it's always too much sexual?

00:56:02.000 Maybe so.

00:56:03.000 Has he been sexual in the past?

00:56:05.000 Not at all.

00:56:06.000 There's been no sexual element to our conversation.

00:56:09.000 It's been two types of what I would say weird guys.

00:56:12.000 Got it.

00:56:13.000 Sort of dotting about in a constellation of ideas is what I would say.

00:56:18.000 Sort of a vague cosmic mist of savantism.

00:56:23.000 Right.

00:56:24.000 How about that?

00:56:25.000 How about we use that sink to cook up a vague savant... What did I say?

00:56:32.000 Cosmic mist of savantism?

00:56:33.000 Yeah.

00:56:34.000 How about... Join me for a cosmic... To cradle, maybe.

00:56:37.000 Oh, yeah.

00:56:38.000 Elon!

00:56:39.000 Join me on the show!

00:56:41.000 We can use that sink to cradle a cosmic mist of savantism. 0.79

00:56:47.000 That's pretty good.

00:56:47.000 That's good.

00:56:48.000 If I saw that, I'd go, fucking hell, this person's on an interesting trip. 0.98

00:56:53.000 And then if there was a gif of me singing the old, let's call it the helmet-washing song, I think that I'd say that's the full gamut. 0.99

00:57:01.000 Yes.

00:57:01.000 That's everything we need.

00:57:03.000 Yeah, who could turn that down?

00:57:05.000 Nobody, I don't think.

00:57:06.000 Nobody could turn that down.

00:57:08.000 Alright, too much chest-hitting. 0.99

00:57:09.000 Who's chitting their blessed old butt? 1.00

00:57:11.000 Who's been chitting their chest? 0.99

00:57:12.000 No, chest-hitting.

00:57:13.000 The Cosmic Missing.

00:57:14.000 Did you write that down, Soobs? 1.00

00:57:17.000 Oh, hell!

00:57:18.000 First bit was easy, that was like, hello, wasn't it?

00:57:20.000 Right, what was it again?

00:57:21.000 Um, lost you at cosmic.

00:57:24.000 Right, cosmic mist of, uh... Cervantism?

00:57:28.000 Cosmic mist of Cervantism, yeah.

00:57:30.000 Elon, let's use that sink of yours as the cradle or crucible to create a cosmic mist of Cervantism on my show. 0.97

00:57:41.000 Yeah.

00:57:42.000 That's good.

00:57:42.000 Great.

00:57:43.000 That's what we're doing.

00:57:44.000 Press send!

00:57:46.000 Give it to the universe now!

00:57:48.000 Give it to the Twitter bots! 0.97

00:57:50.000 Give it to the 90% of my 11 million followers who are just in Russia somewhere going, oh, Donald Trump says this.

00:57:58.000 Hey, why don't we hold a BLM rally? 0.59

00:58:00.000 How about we hold a WLM rally on the same day at the same time?

00:58:04.000 That sounds like some fun.

00:58:06.000 That's what goes on in it, young Putin.

00:58:09.000 Everything's just a farce.

00:58:10.000 Were you listening, men?

00:58:11.000 You're still thinking about the false skin wash, aren't ya? 1.00

00:58:14.000 Aren't ya, Putin?

00:58:14.000 Aren't ya?

00:58:16.000 Christ, isn't it marvellous, eh?

00:58:17.000 It really is.

00:58:18.000 You work your fingers to the effing bone to create a channel.

00:58:22.000 We've worked so hard.

00:58:24.000 Some people don't realise how hard we work.

00:58:24.000 So hard.

00:58:26.000 Probably because of the low quality of the work.

00:58:28.000 But the fact is, we're working... But we've got a lot of it we could have said, so... What could you mean, could have said?

00:58:33.000 Well, what I mean is, we could send them the documents if they really want to challenge us.

00:58:37.000 What documents?

00:58:37.000 We've made documents.

00:58:38.000 About what this show might have been if we'd stayed on track.

00:58:41.000 That's right.

00:58:41.000 Exactly.

00:58:42.000 Well, if we'd have stayed on track, here are some questions that I might have asked Tulsi.

00:58:46.000 Democratic Party warmongers, covered it.

00:58:48.000 Republican Party demonstrators, that came up.

00:58:51.000 She said independent.

00:58:52.000 She sort of covered the Ukraine war, proxy war, I think we've got good stuff there.

00:58:56.000 Big pie military-industrial complex, covered that.

00:58:59.000 Nord Stream, I didn't bother with Nord Stream.

00:59:01.000 That's alright, we'll do Sachs to do that.

00:59:02.000 Yeah, Sachs.

00:59:03.000 Hey, that Nord Stream, how dare you! 0.89

00:59:05.000 How dare you say America might have done it!

00:59:12.000 I didn't do China, unfortunately.

00:59:12.000 China.

00:59:15.000 I thought about doing China, but by then I'd already talked about God and I can't go back.

00:59:19.000 I did wonder.

00:59:20.000 I can't go back to atheist China. 0.97

00:59:23.000 Buddhist derived, but ultimately atheist China.

00:59:26.000 I knew you were wrapping up once you got to God.

00:59:28.000 Did you?

00:59:29.000 I thought he's about three quarters of the way through at this point. 0.99

00:59:32.000 The thing is with Tulsi Gabbard is I thought, I'm not gonna be an idiot here. 0.99

00:59:36.000 No. 0.97

00:59:37.000 I'm not gonna start singing that song that I sang subsequently because... No.

00:59:41.000 I don't know what she'd have done with that.

00:59:44.000 I think she's pretty fun.

00:59:45.000 I think, uh, maybe just a bit of it.

00:59:47.000 Not the, um, washing the bowls in the sink bit.

00:59:49.000 That's the main bit.

00:59:50.000 Right.

00:59:51.000 That's the best bit.

00:59:51.000 I don't know.

00:59:52.000 That's the whole essence of the bit.

00:59:53.000 I see.

00:59:54.000 Without that, you've got no song.

00:59:55.000 Nothing.

00:59:56.000 That's like saying, like, do, um, the, uh, the immigrant song without... 0.96

01:00:03.000 You can't say to them, don't do that bit.

01:00:05.000 No, you mean exactly then.

01:00:06.000 Yeah.

01:00:07.000 That sounded like some far right song you've been learning.

01:00:11.000 Yeah.

01:00:12.000 What do you mean? Are we just...

01:00:20.000 So how do we do the chat?

01:00:22.000 I'll do that on my phone later.

01:00:24.000 How do I do the Stay Free AF chat that I like to do at the end of the show?

01:00:27.000 Oh, right.

01:00:28.000 Because there's not that time now.

01:00:28.000 How do I do that?

01:00:30.000 Yeah, you'll do it later on your phone.

01:00:31.000 I'll do it later.

01:00:32.000 Is that what's going to happen?

01:00:32.000 Will I?

01:00:34.000 We're just not going to do one.

01:00:35.000 We're not obliged.

01:00:36.000 We're going now.

01:00:39.000 That's that.

01:00:41.000 Well, we've sent Elon Musk a tweet.

01:00:43.000 We've interviewed Tulsi Gabbard.

01:00:45.000 We've made some jokes.

01:00:47.000 I'd like to encourage you to join Stay Free AF.

01:00:50.000 That's our members community.

01:00:51.000 There's Bogna Babe, Connected Chris, both of those kuh sounds with kickity kays. 0.92

01:00:56.000 Oh well, Spooky Boogie, Dark Mouth, Another Way, Tilly Mint.

01:01:00.000 What do you think Tilly Mint's a reference to?

01:01:02.000 Uh, I've no idea.

01:01:04.000 Well, it sounds like a euphemism, doesn't it?

01:01:07.000 Might I look at your Tilly Mint?

01:01:09.000 Might I look at your tilly mint?

01:01:11.000 Might I have a glance at your tilly mint?

01:01:13.000 Come on.

01:01:14.000 What's the problem?

01:01:15.000 You keeping that tilly mint all to yourself?

01:01:17.000 Sorry.

01:01:18.000 Penny Wabbit.

01:01:19.000 That's another one.

01:01:20.000 It's another euphemism.

01:01:21.000 Everyone's name is a genital. 0.97

01:01:23.000 Isn't it? 0.98

01:01:24.000 It's a genital. 0.69

01:01:25.000 Queen Bee Kind. 0.99

01:01:26.000 Genital. 0.71

01:01:27.000 Peachy Gurney. 0.85

01:01:28.000 Genital.

01:01:29.000 Wind of Change. 0.96

01:01:30.000 Could be a genital.

01:01:31.000 Depends on what kind of deal you're on.

01:01:33.000 Isn't it?

01:01:34.000 It is, isn't it?

01:01:34.000 Isn't it though?

01:01:35.000 It is, isn't it?

01:01:35.000 Is it?

01:01:36.000 Is it?

01:01:37.000 Is it?

01:01:38.000 It is, isn't it?

01:01:41.000 Are you talking about sex?

01:01:44.000 All right, look.

01:01:46.000 It's interesting, isn't it?

01:01:47.000 Because we do that stuff on YouTube, and I think people think, well, that's obviously who he is.

01:01:51.000 He's that guy.

01:01:52.000 He's that guy.

01:01:53.000 I'm this guy, really?

01:01:53.000 But you're this guy.

01:01:54.000 Yeah.

01:01:55.000 Immigrant song is not Doctor Who. 0.98

01:01:57.000 Who says that?

01:01:58.000 Immigrant song was... Doctor Who is... Hold on. 1.00

01:01:58.000 No. 1.00

01:02:02.000 nanananan, nanananan, you could make something...

01:02:04.000 Hold out, keep going.

01:02:05.000 Nanananan, nanananan, nanananan, nanananan, nanananan, ooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhh, yeah, but that's not a marathon.

01:02:14.000 Not a million miles off.

01:02:15.000 Aaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! 0.57

01:02:18.000 No, because... That's got much more pelvic thrust in it. 1.00

01:02:23.000 Like, Doctor Who isn't coming from the pelvis.

01:02:26.000 Doctor Who... He's much more in his mind.

01:02:29.000 He's in this chakra.

01:02:33.000 How do you think Rumble are feeling about this at the moment?

01:02:36.000 They don't like it.

01:02:36.000 Rumble?

01:02:38.000 Rumble, I would say... I don't know.

01:02:40.000 These guys, these are the hardcore that are watching us now.

01:02:42.000 Locals.

01:02:43.000 They'll go with this.

01:02:43.000 They'll go...

01:02:46.000 Cut, people, now the floor manager, Anna's like, that's enough. 1.00

01:02:50.000 I should pay to work here.

01:02:51.000 She's like, nah, not that much.

01:02:54.000 I'm out.

01:02:55.000 Enough's enough.

01:02:56.000 She can see this in the newspapers.

01:02:58.000 Alright, this is over.

01:02:59.000 We've been through this before.

01:03:01.000 And at one point, he just started singing Led Zeppelin's Doctor Who!

01:03:05.000 To basically himself, while onlookers seemed baffled.

01:03:09.000 OK, so remember, next Tuesday, JP at 5am PT, 8am ET, 12pm GMT.

01:03:14.000 Wednesday, Economist Jeffrey Sachs will be on the show.

01:03:17.000 Thursday, Books with Brad.

01:03:18.000 We're discussing 1984 with George Orwell.

01:03:20.000 There's a lot of things to talk about.

01:03:21.000 With George Orwell!

01:03:24.000 What I've done is... Bloody hell!

01:03:25.000 I've bought it back!

01:03:26.000 That's an exclusive!

01:03:27.000 I bought... He's back, baby!

01:03:29.000 We thought he was dead, did ya?

01:03:30.000 For ages!

01:03:31.000 I did!

01:03:32.000 He was!

01:03:33.000 But not now! 1.00

01:03:34.000 I'll Lazarus that motherfucker right back! 1.00

01:03:36.000 He won't be there! 1.00

01:03:37.000 People have got to pay for that!

01:03:37.000 Stick it on locals!

01:03:38.000 Guys!

01:03:39.000 I've bought back... Who do you want back next?

01:03:41.000 Hemingway?

01:03:42.000 He's a coming!

01:03:42.000 They're all coming back!

01:03:43.000 Dorothy Parker?

01:03:44.000 We're bringing back Dead Orphans! 0.98

01:03:47.000 They're all back!

01:03:48.000 It's gonna be brilliant, this!

01:03:48.000 Wow!

01:03:49.000 Yeah, only if you join Stay Free AF, our membership community.

01:03:52.000 We're not putting that on the stream.

01:03:53.000 It costs some money to get these people.

01:03:55.000 You've got to pay top dollar to have a seance with the dead.

01:04:01.000 There's no point having the seance with the living, just talk to them directly.

01:04:03.000 Just say what you want to say.

01:04:06.000 No point in doing anything else.

01:04:08.000 Alright, well look, I suppose I don't know what I'm doing after this and that's what's making me reluctant to wrap it up.

01:04:13.000 I mean, On the French horn.

01:04:16.000 Okay, definitely time to wrap it up.

01:04:17.000 French horn! 0.59

01:04:18.000 Me so horny, where's my horn?

01:04:20.000 Why are we not doing French horn? 0.99

01:04:22.000 How many times do people have to fill in that fucking petition before you'll start listening to democracy? 0.97

01:04:29.000 How many people have signed it now, Will? 0.99

01:04:31.000 Thousands, isn't it?

01:04:32.000 Absolute thousands.

01:04:35.000 Lex Freedman's recent podcast.

01:04:37.000 Just under 150, so 149.

01:04:38.000 Look at that, Gareth.

01:04:39.000 Why do you not love democracy?

01:04:40.000 Someone just wrote, it's Gareth's choice.

01:04:42.000 Thank you so much.

01:04:43.000 It's not your choice.

01:04:44.000 Kendra, so is it literally what we were just talking about?

01:04:46.000 What if you're a pro-French horn?

01:04:49.000 I identify as a French hornist.

01:04:52.000 Lex Freedman's, this is Kendra, recent podcast interview with Yay is worth a listen.

01:04:56.000 Similar openness of holding space, sometimes heartier, valuable conversations.

01:04:59.000 Russell might have had a chance to speak with Elon if he has the ex on stay for AF.

01:05:03.000 Lex and Elon are friends.

01:05:05.000 Great.

01:05:05.000 I can get to, I'm not going on some podcast, kiss me quick, like some sort of groovy train podcast.

01:05:12.000 Although Lex would be great as well.

01:05:13.000 Lex Freedman, I would like to go on Lex Freedman.

01:05:15.000 Alright, wrap it up.

01:05:16.000 Everyone's saying wrap it up.

01:05:17.000 Thank you for coming.

01:05:18.000 I've tried my best.

01:05:21.000 I'm afraid if it's not good enough, you're just going to have to live with it.

01:05:23.000 You should say that every day at the end of work.

01:05:24.000 I've tried my best.

01:05:26.000 This is all I've got.

01:05:27.000 This is who I am.

01:05:29.000 You only have to put up with an hour. 0.85

01:05:31.000 This is me forever, till I die.

01:05:34.000 So, who's the real winner?

01:05:35.000 Thank you very much.

01:05:36.000 Stay free.

Stay Free - Russel Brand - October 27, 2022

Are The Democrats Warmongers? With Guest Tulsi Gabbard - #022 - Stay Free with Russell Brand

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