Stay Free - Russel Brand - April 03, 2026


Armed Robots, Public Fury and a Culture Losing Control — SF699


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1 hour and 12 minutes

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179.34962

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12,961

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1,099

Misogynist Sentences

19

Hate Speech Sentences

32


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00:00:10.000 Russell Brand, trying to bring real journalism to the American people.
00:00:16.000 Hello there, you awakening wonders.
00:00:18.000 Thanks for joining me today for Stay Free with Russell Brand.
00:00:20.000 We're going to be talking about, well, let's be honest, trying to survive in this crazy world.
00:00:24.000 Get involved in that chat.
00:00:25.000 Have a big argument.
00:00:26.000 For example, are Jews good or bad?
00:00:28.000 There's definitely a one word answer to that question.
00:00:31.000 What about Muslims?
00:00:32.000 What about gays?
00:00:32.000 Good or bad?
00:00:33.000 Good or bad?
00:00:34.000 Solve it!
00:00:35.000 Solve it now in the chat.
00:00:37.000 A woman's place, in the home.
00:00:40.000 Solve it!
00:00:41.000 Solve it now in the chat, you lunatics.
00:00:43.000 If you ain't got Rumble Premium yet, get Rumble Premium now.
00:00:48.000 Do you know this, though, for example, that the DMT realm, I bet Massey knows the full word for DMA triptylic of it, don't you?
00:00:56.000 Do you?
00:00:57.000 Dimethyltryptamine.
00:00:59.000 Good, see?
00:01:00.000 Right, say it a couple more times so I can learn it, please.
00:01:03.000 Dimethyl.
00:01:04.000 Dimethyl tryptamine.
00:01:07.000 Dimethyl tryptamine.
00:01:10.000 How do you know that?
00:01:11.000 I knew he would know.
00:01:12.000 He's interested in it.
00:01:12.000 I knew he'd know.
00:01:13.000 I haven't taken it yet, but my mate's got it and he said it's the best trip ever, so I'd like to do it.
00:01:18.000 I will do it.
00:01:19.000 Drugs are bad.
00:01:20.000 Drugs are bad.
00:01:21.000 That's all we've got to say on that.
00:01:22.000 Dimethyl tryptamine.
00:01:24.000 You should see how long it took me to learn how to say hydroxychloroquine.
00:01:28.000 Yes!
00:01:29.000 That's the first time I've ever done it.
00:01:31.000 It took a lot of mnemonic devices.
00:01:33.000 Ah, Dave, good old Dave, real life land man from West Texas.
00:01:38.000 How's it going?
00:01:39.000 You okay over there?
00:01:40.000 Have you ever seen that show?
00:01:41.000 I ain't watched it yet.
00:01:42.000 Oh, that's good.
00:01:43.000 Billy Bob Thornton looks too thin.
00:01:45.000 Like Billy Bob Thornton, he always looks like he should play someone with AIDS.
00:01:50.000 Yeah?
00:01:51.000 Has he?
00:01:52.000 No, I think his fullest was Tombstone.
00:01:56.000 Was it?
00:01:57.000 You ever look at Tombstone and you go, that's Billy Bob Thornton?
00:02:00.000 Because it doesn't even.
00:02:01.000 You don't even think that's Billy Bob Thornton.
00:02:03.000 Well, I like him in.
00:02:05.000 Bad Santa, that's a good movie.
00:02:09.000 Did you let your kids watch that?
00:02:11.000 I've made a lot of mistakes, a lot of mistakes.
00:02:13.000 We've because sometimes I can't watch the crap they watch, you know, like I can't watch that crap, so I have to make them watch good stuff.
00:02:21.000 You don't think Sling Blade was like the thing, yeah?
00:02:25.000 What is Sling Blade?
00:02:26.000 I don't know about that.
00:02:26.000 He's good on that.
00:02:29.000 I don't understand his reference, so I just that's that's Sling Blade.
00:02:34.000 What do you think he has?
00:02:36.000 Autism.
00:02:37.000 I don't want to talk about something I don't know about.
00:02:39.000 Don't hijack the show to talk about Sling Blade.
00:02:41.000 I'll simply blaze in in English.
00:02:43.000 I'll blaze right in.
00:02:45.000 Encourage me.
00:02:46.000 Encourage me about talking about things I know about.
00:02:48.000 Not Sling Blade.
00:02:49.000 You want to pull it up?
00:02:50.000 No, I'm not interested in it.
00:02:52.000 DMT.
00:02:53.000 DMT.
00:02:54.000 Dimethyltryptamine.
00:02:56.000 Dimethyltryptamine is.
00:02:58.000 People are getting banned from its realm.
00:03:00.000 That's the headline that we're working with, kids.
00:03:04.000 And what I'm assuming this means is why I like.
00:03:07.000 Dimethyltryptamine, even though I actually am not allowed to take drugs because, you know, I spoiled it for everyone else.
00:03:12.000 I do believe that taking psychedelic journeys is an interesting thing.
00:03:18.000 Like, the reason is because Ezekiel, Daniel, Book of Revelation, like, do you know that bit when they're measuring stuff out?
00:03:26.000 That's weird, isn't it?
00:03:27.000 The measuring stuff out.
00:03:28.000 Isn't that like someone's.
00:03:30.000 I know sometimes it's literally measuring out a temple, and, you know, I'm down with it being Christ, of course.
00:03:37.000 Dressed in white.
00:03:38.000 Sounds like the resurrected Christ sometimes, don't it?
00:03:40.000 That figure.
00:03:41.000 But it sounds like he's pitching out reality.
00:03:43.000 And the other day when I was reading in Isaiah, I stretched out the skies.
00:03:49.000 I really thought, wow, man, that's good.
00:03:51.000 That's good universes expanding stuff.
00:03:54.000 Like, you know, if you're looking at the way that they're measuring the age and size of the universe is by looking at molecules and particles and their rate of the movement as they expand across, not expand across space, move across space.
00:04:05.000 But, oh, I find in the poetry increasingly in scripture.
00:04:10.000 The language of the deepest reality.
00:04:12.000 That's what I'm trying to say.
00:04:13.000 Even when it comes to things like dark energy and dark matter and cosmic physics, as understood by a humble lay person such as myself.
00:04:23.000 And also, I'm interested in prophecy and altered states.
00:04:28.000 So that's why I'm interested to hear people are getting banned from dimethyltryptamine world.
00:04:32.000 And, Massey, if you're any kind of an editor, you'll put dimethyltryptamine up on the screen every time I say it.
00:04:38.000 And that'll be very satisfying.
00:04:40.000 For me, I don't know if I.
00:04:42.000 I don't.
00:04:43.000 Well, when I was a younger man, I used to watch shows back, you know, like when I was on Big Brother's Big Mouth.
00:04:48.000 That was the first time I used to be on TV or MTV when I was on MTV when I was a kid.
00:04:51.000 I like watch it.
00:04:52.000 Well, this is so cool.
00:04:54.000 Look at me on the TV.
00:04:55.000 I've gotten in there, man.
00:04:56.000 I've gotten in that box that I was spent the first half of my life, as it was then, staring at.
00:05:02.000 Now I'm in that.
00:05:03.000 I did it.
00:05:04.000 I got in.
00:05:06.000 Where is this box?
00:05:07.000 Now I'm another box.
00:05:08.000 You don't want to be in these boxes, is the truth.
00:05:10.000 Get out of them.
00:05:11.000 The boxes are not good things.
00:05:13.000 Anyway, what I'm interested in now is dimethyltryptamine.
00:05:17.000 People getting banned from that realm like it's a psychedelic nightclub, like it's a sort of a realm.
00:05:22.000 I want to see about this, and now I will with a simple push of a button.
00:05:25.000 Did you know that you can get banned from DMT?
00:05:28.000 Really?
00:05:29.000 Dude, you got to look this up.
00:05:31.000 There are thousands of people out there who are using DMT recreationally, and the beings up there basically told them, you are done.
00:05:41.000 And you're, you're banned from, from DMT.
00:05:43.000 And the journey stops right there in that moment.
00:05:46.000 And the guy can take hit after hit after hit after hit of DMT and nothing happens.
00:05:52.000 You can be banned from that realm or whatever it is.
00:05:56.000 I think they call it hyperspace now.
00:05:58.000 In the culture surrounding DMT, there is a widely reported anecdote phenomenon called being locked out of hyperspace.
00:06:06.000 Many frequent users report reaching a point where the drug simply stops working as expected, regardless of the dose.
00:06:13.000 That happened with all drugs if you take them enough.
00:06:15.000 You've just got to not be weak.
00:06:16.000 Keep pushing through.
00:06:18.000 Some of you might overdose, some of you might die.
00:06:21.000 That's a sign of weakness.
00:06:22.000 Keep pushing on.
00:06:24.000 What I like about that.
00:06:27.000 Is that kind of, I suppose, comparable to 100 monkey theory, where once a certain number of monkeys in an isolated part of an archipelago learn some skill like cracking open a coconut, automatically and immediately the other monkeys on that island suddenly can also use this new monkey technology, suggesting that there's a kind of psychedelic mycelium network, or as the Celts used to call it, weird.
00:06:50.000 Indeed, that's the etymology of the word weird, spelled for Y in that instance, you know, instead of the I, not instead of the W. Be crazy.
00:06:58.000 The weird was an interconnected network, like a mycelium network, via which information could travel.
00:07:05.000 I and the father are one.
00:07:07.000 I and the father are one.
00:07:08.000 If you've seen me, you've already seen the father.
00:07:11.000 There is an interconnectivity to the absolute that can be achieved, and like through psychedelic states, you might achieve it.
00:07:17.000 But also, the occupants of this realm are they've got some conditions about entry.
00:07:24.000 And I think they're probably what do you think they are?
00:07:26.000 Demons?
00:07:27.000 Fallen creatures, yeah, it's probably spiritual for sure.
00:07:31.000 I think the first half of that interview is way more intriguing than what he read at the end.
00:07:36.000 When it's just like most users find it wears off at the end, I like the idea of getting locked out more than I do the drug wears off.
00:07:46.000 What do you think?
00:07:46.000 Getting locked out, yeah, like it started so good, then it's just like some users report the drug doesn't act the same way it did after multiple years.
00:07:55.000 Yeah, you gotta get a handle on that.
00:07:57.000 That doesn't seem so metaphysical, does it?
00:07:58.000 But I think it is a spiritual, it's gotta be right, spiritual.
00:08:02.000 What are you saying?
00:08:02.000 It's just the drug stuff.
00:08:03.000 It's so funny that you're like, I like the beginning bit when it's about other realms being religious, but then I don't like it when it comes down to science and it's just the drugs wearing off.
00:08:12.000 That means there's no other realms.
00:08:14.000 And this is all it is.
00:08:15.000 True, it isn't as good a story if it's just how these drugs are wearing off.
00:08:19.000 But yeah, until I've done DMT, I've got no idea.
00:08:22.000 But people do say it's like going to another place.
00:08:24.000 I feel it all the time.
00:08:25.000 I can do it to my own head with just breath.
00:08:27.000 I can do it to my, it's not, you know, I'd like some beings.
00:08:31.000 Who don't want beings?
00:08:32.000 But really, don't you feel like in consciousness, sorry, in the sort of subjective experience, which you might call consciousness, the information comes in via the senses.
00:08:44.000 The eyes can detect a certain light range, et cetera, with all of the senses, even the sense of touch.
00:08:51.000 But it's really stupid, mad stupid, to suggest, That the instruments for sensing is equal to the information that can be sensed, even just relying on rude, not rudimentary, because it's sort of kind of complex, but let's say mainstream scientific perspective like dark energy and dark matter, which ain't dark, it's just outside of the detectable range.
00:09:12.000 So, especially when you couple it with stuff like our understanding of quantum entanglement, i.e., you reverse the polarity of one electron and the distance don't matter, the other electron's polarity will alter, suggesting a connection there.
00:09:25.000 And these kind of Not apocryphal, but sort of peripheral scientific ideas like hundred monkey theories suggest that there are indeed realms.
00:09:34.000 And the way that we depict them, sometimes it seems stupid or it seems deliberately sectarian, like if you start saying demons and angels.
00:09:44.000 But again, like when we did that etymological exercise on the Lord's Prayer, what we kind of discovered is that behind whether you come up with it using 1950s language or 1560s language or 2026 language, It's going to have a load of baggage from that.
00:10:01.000 But what's behind it, it seems to me at least, is a sort of a reality that does, it is precisely about realms.
00:10:08.000 Even though what I've drawn on this bit of paper looks like something that Quentin Blake would have done during a really bad mental breakdown.
00:10:15.000 Quentin Blake, longtime collaborator of Roald Dahl.
00:10:18.000 Anyway, I do like that stuff.
00:10:21.000 Now, are we going straight into gay frogs as usual?
00:10:25.000 I mean, like the next, the very next thing is proof they're turning frogs gay.
00:10:28.000 But I know they're turning frogs.
00:10:30.000 That's a natural transition.
00:10:31.000 Let's do it.
00:10:32.000 Let's naturally transition into a gay frog.
00:10:34.000 You said the chemicals in the water, which are put there by the government, are turning frogs gay in a gay bomb.
00:10:42.000 Look at Alex Jones.
00:10:43.000 He's absolute certainty in himself.
00:10:44.000 I do love that guy.
00:10:45.000 Yeah, I did say that, and they are.
00:10:48.000 Bomb.
00:10:49.000 There are more than a thousand university studies from England to Australia to South Africa to Mexico to Austin, Texas.
00:10:56.000 That atrazine is literally making male frogs gay.
00:11:00.000 They don't want to have sex with female frogs, and their populations are plummeting and even becoming extinct.
00:11:05.000 Boom!
00:11:06.000 The one that's sort of remarkable is this parent.
00:11:10.000 These are both males.
00:11:11.000 The one on the bottom, acting as the female, we affectionately refer to as Darnell.
00:11:16.000 He's a genetic male that not only acts like a female, he lays eggs like a female.
00:11:22.000 He, she, has been exposed to atrazine.
00:11:25.000 What's going on there with this scientist?
00:11:27.000 He's been exposed to atrophy.
00:11:29.000 I've had some atrazine this morning, and that's when I put this earring on.
00:11:33.000 When I came to work this morning, I was a pretty tough guy, but I've been drinking atrazine, and I gotta say, I love this stuff.
00:11:39.000 And look, this chandelier on my lobe.
00:11:43.000 All of her, his, her life.
00:11:45.000 I don't even really know how to reference it.
00:11:46.000 This is Darnell's third clutch.
00:11:48.000 So Darnell has sons and daughters that we've grown up.
00:11:52.000 You can see eggs in the bottom.
00:11:53.000 I think Darnell's partner looks particularly pleased with the event, so I think they're disassociating.
00:11:59.000 At best.
00:12:00.000 This is actually her second clutch for today.
00:12:02.000 He, she has been copulating for getting close to 24 hours now.
00:12:07.000 This is probably one of the.
00:12:10.000 Frog pronouns is a different level.
00:12:13.000 Because he's scared to say he, so he's he, she, right?
00:12:17.000 Yeah, the frog can't be offended.
00:12:18.000 Yeah, he's like, oh, I don't want to.
00:12:20.000 I identify as Kermit.
00:12:22.000 Yeah.
00:12:22.000 This is probably one of the most remarkable things I've seen in my work.
00:12:26.000 Yeah, there it is, the gay bomb.
00:12:29.000 That's one of the most remarkable things I've seen in my work.
00:12:31.000 There it is.
00:12:34.000 Look it up for yourself.
00:12:35.000 I mean, this is what they're.
00:12:36.000 What do you think tap water is?
00:12:38.000 It's a gay bomb, baby.
00:12:41.000 Wow.
00:12:42.000 Whoa.
00:12:44.000 So that explains the changes I'm seeing in you.
00:12:51.000 That's very fancy.
00:12:51.000 I said it before you could say it to me.
00:12:54.000 I said it first because I knew you were going to say that.
00:12:57.000 100%.
00:12:57.000 But I wasn't going to because I actually have been having some deep conversations with a gay Christian.
00:13:02.000 And I'm actually an extremely sensitive person.
00:13:05.000 So sensitive, in fact, that I'm going to have sex with a boy frog.
00:13:08.000 It's the only way to get these feelings out through my urethra.
00:13:14.000 Go on, what are you saying there, Massey?
00:13:16.000 That the frogs don't look like they're enjoying it.
00:13:19.000 It's just like that guy's talking about how remarkable this thing is.
00:13:22.000 And you've got these two frogs who've been put in a box.
00:13:25.000 And this guy's like screwing with them with some chemical.
00:13:28.000 It's just a horrible existence.
00:13:30.000 And this guy's like, This is incredible.
00:13:31.000 But the frog's like, God, I'm so bored.
00:13:33.000 I'm fucking guys and laying eggs in here.
00:13:35.000 Ridiculous.
00:13:36.000 What are you doing, scientists, when you're not doing gain of function research in Wuhan?
00:13:41.000 You're doing gain of function research with frogs.
00:13:44.000 Stop it.
00:13:45.000 Get a grip.
00:13:46.000 Cure cancer!
00:13:47.000 Stop turning frogs gay and bats dangerous, you nutters.
00:13:51.000 And that's my five cents.
00:13:53.000 I'm going to do new items like that.
00:13:54.000 Like I'm just like Bill O'Reilly.
00:13:56.000 Just shout a bunch of shit, and that's the show.
00:13:57.000 Yeah, let's try it, see if it works.
00:13:59.000 That's that one.
00:14:00.000 Now, Noel Gallagher, British musician, superstar of Oasis, says that he will not go into lockdown again.
00:14:07.000 Well, that's not how lockdowns work.
00:14:09.000 You have to.
00:14:10.000 Let's have a look.
00:14:10.000 I'm not going into lockdown again, by the way.
00:14:12.000 If anybody's listening to the government, I'm not bothered what you say.
00:14:15.000 I'm not going in, and that's the end of it.
00:14:17.000 I will.
00:14:18.000 Lockdown.
00:14:19.000 Someone pointed out that even the language, they didn't use quarantine, they used lockdown.
00:14:23.000 That was our guest, Tina Piers.
00:14:24.000 You should watch that episode, actually.
00:14:25.000 Tina Piers is a doctor who did great research and experientially treated a bunch of patients during COVID.
00:14:31.000 Then they shut her down and made up a load of lies about her and stuff.
00:14:34.000 But she was a real good doctor.
00:14:36.000 She said, Lockdown?
00:14:37.000 They don't even use that language.
00:14:39.000 That's prison language.
00:14:41.000 You're going on lockdown.
00:14:42.000 They shouldn't have done that.
00:14:43.000 They weren't allowed it.
00:14:44.000 No, Gallagher's right.
00:14:45.000 That's the end of it.
00:14:47.000 I will buy a nightclub in the West End.
00:14:50.000 And I will open it 24 hours a day, even if there's only me in there playing my own tune.
00:14:54.000 Gallagher's Bar.
00:14:55.000 That'd be so good.
00:14:56.000 Don't know what I'm going to call it.
00:14:57.000 It's going to be great.
00:14:58.000 I'm not going back into lockdown.
00:15:00.000 No one wants another lockdown.
00:15:02.000 No way, baby.
00:15:03.000 All right, let's have a look at.
00:15:04.000 Oh, yeah, that presidential library.
00:15:06.000 I see that on the internet.
00:15:07.000 I see Eric Trump announcing it.
00:15:09.000 It's a tall library.
00:15:12.000 It's tall.
00:15:12.000 You ain't seen it?
00:15:13.000 Check it.
00:15:30.000 Watch that forever, just like a sort of sky needle and a sort of a hinge.
00:15:35.000 Obama went for a hinge and Trump went for a syringe.
00:15:40.000 What's the part on the left of the video?
00:15:42.000 Is that where it's at now?
00:15:43.000 No, that's Obama's one.
00:15:45.000 Oh, sorry, did I introduce it correctly?
00:15:47.000 Barack Obama's library look, it's all made out of stone, whereas Donald Trump's one's all tall.
00:15:55.000 Why did you think that was?
00:15:56.000 You thought that was in a primitive stage?
00:15:58.000 Yeah, maybe like where.
00:16:00.000 No, they finished it, I think.
00:16:01.000 Or maybe they've designed it.
00:16:02.000 I don't know, actually.
00:16:03.000 I don't know where we are in the construction.
00:16:05.000 I don't know, darling.
00:16:06.000 I just don't know.
00:16:07.000 But have another look at it.
00:16:08.000 It's very rousing.
00:16:13.000 The argument can't be who's got the better type of presidential library.
00:16:19.000 We've got a lot to concern ourselves with.
00:16:21.000 Not least, H.S. Tiki Toki, who was one of the subjects of the Manosphere Louis Theroux documentary, is getting antagonized.
00:16:30.000 Because someone's doing quite a good impression of him.
00:16:33.000 And there's a good comedic spirit actually behind this.
00:16:35.000 Because a good impersonation of someone, they'll find a hook and then you'll go, yeah, I like that.
00:16:40.000 And a very good impersonation of someone is where it goes stupid.
00:16:44.000 And this guy with HS Tiki Toki, it's not even a very literal impersonation.
00:16:49.000 He's almost a caricature.
00:16:51.000 But beyond caricature, even, it's slightly macabre and surreal.
00:16:54.000 Let's check it out.
00:16:55.000 Boys, I've got something that I need to speak about, and that's my mental health.
00:17:00.000 Since the Louis Theroux documentary, I've not been the best.
00:17:02.000 That's why I've not done any IRL streaming.
00:17:04.000 I've totally gone offline.
00:17:06.000 I've acted brave and I've acted like I could face the demons head on and the hate.
00:17:11.000 But I'm coming on here right now to say, nah, I've cracked.
00:17:14.000 I'm now seeing a therapist.
00:17:16.000 I'm quitting streaming.
00:17:17.000 And I don't want to be involved with this toxic online world that just hates on me.
00:17:22.000 This is a joke, though, huh?
00:17:23.000 I know that this is a joke.
00:17:24.000 Can't you feel it?
00:17:25.000 Just hates on me and brings me down.
00:17:26.000 I'm just a young guy, man.
00:17:28.000 I'm 24 years old.
00:17:30.000 The constant hate, the constant abuse online just makes me feel.
00:17:35.000 It is exhausting.
00:17:36.000 Maybe he's not joking.
00:17:37.000 Yeah, that's him.
00:17:38.000 No, no, that's not the impersonator.
00:17:40.000 I thought this was going to be the impersonator, but only because I've been exchanging that stuff with Joe.
00:17:43.000 But Joe's not here, is he?
00:17:44.000 Because Joe's off on one of his missions.
00:17:46.000 Joe's on a mission of some description.
00:17:48.000 The comments were, I had a few comments asking, where's Joe?
00:17:51.000 Yeah, where is Joe?
00:17:52.000 Joe, you lunatic!
00:17:54.000 We'll work it out.
00:17:56.000 Online just makes me feel this big, genuinely, to the point where I don't even want to be online anymore.
00:18:02.000 So when you're saying horrible things online, how about you think to yourself, yeah, about how that can affect other people and how they.
00:18:08.000 Funny that he's arrived at that point, huh?
00:18:12.000 Yeah, that's what it is, darling.
00:18:13.000 And remember some of the stuff you've said.
00:18:16.000 Hey, yeah, we were all on that little carousel with HS Tiki Toki.
00:18:20.000 Look, RoboDog is armed now.
00:18:23.000 Let's have a look at RoboDog.
00:18:25.000 Then we're going to see Keir Starmer.
00:18:27.000 Prime Minister of my country, up, getting surrounded and attacked.
00:18:32.000 Firstly, though, let's have a look at RoboDog.
00:18:39.000 They told us they were never going to do that to RoboDog, didn't they?
00:18:41.000 They said RoboDog's only ever going to dispatch medicine, it's going to be a reliable friend, it's going to help the elderly, like Neuralink.
00:18:46.000 It's just going to help people.
00:18:47.000 Neuralink's just for paralyzed people.
00:18:51.000 Also, we are going to hook all of your heads to a massive grid and punish you with electric shocks if you disobey our system.
00:18:57.000 RoboDog.
00:18:58.000 Armed to the titting teeth, running around like an arachnid predator.
00:19:12.000 It's good because a RoboDog has no fear.
00:19:15.000 RoboDog rounds that corner.
00:19:16.000 All of that military training, Dave, I bet you've done some of that training, have you?
00:19:19.000 Where you have to go around a corner in a certain way.
00:19:21.000 A little bit.
00:19:21.000 Yeah.
00:19:22.000 Well, I want to do it.
00:19:23.000 That's one of my favourite things when you see them go around a corner when you enter a building, you know, and they do it well.
00:19:29.000 Yeah.
00:19:30.000 Well, how are you meant to do it?
00:19:33.000 We'll take you out to the range and do it.
00:19:35.000 They have a kill house out there.
00:19:37.000 Kill house?
00:19:37.000 Yeah.
00:19:38.000 So now we're talking.
00:19:39.000 Now we're talking content, HS Tiki Toki.
00:19:41.000 We're down in the old kill house.
00:19:42.000 We're going around the corner, and I've got to keep my back to a certain place.
00:19:45.000 Let's do it.
00:19:46.000 Let's go there.
00:19:47.000 We'll strap cameras on ourselves.
00:19:49.000 We'll go around there.
00:19:50.000 We'll fire off a few rounds with hollow shells and hollow tipped shells.
00:19:54.000 Get some robot dogs.
00:19:55.000 Now, Robo Dog's a different thing, isn't it?
00:19:57.000 Because did you see Robo Dog essentially doesn't care if you get shot?
00:20:00.000 The Iranian army.
00:20:01.000 I bet they've got robo dogs up the kibosh.
00:20:05.000 I didn't like the fact that it looked like there was just a gun on top of them.
00:20:09.000 They give it a head.
00:20:10.000 Yeah, they make it like a nice built in, like you plug it in or something.
00:20:14.000 That just looked like, here's a regular gun, and we just taped it.
00:20:18.000 You think it looked too slapdash like when I repaired that bench in that house?
00:20:22.000 Like, here's an AR or whatever, and then just tape around robo dogs.
00:20:26.000 You don't think you want to see it a bit more like on a.
00:20:28.000 Yeah, it's like a garlic.
00:20:29.000 It's on a turret or something, and it's like.
00:20:31.000 Turret.
00:20:32.000 Let's have a look, Jake.
00:20:33.000 I think you're right.
00:20:49.000 Gone pretty mad, huh?
00:20:54.000 Go back, let's see.
00:20:58.000 It's got that kind of muzzle.
00:20:59.000 It's upside down.
00:21:01.000 Yeah, it is, but I suppose that doesn't matter to RoboDog.
00:21:05.000 There is no upside down.
00:21:06.000 He just taped it on him.
00:21:08.000 He doesn't have a choice.
00:21:10.000 Upside down's a concept.
00:21:11.000 RoboDog don't deal with that, does he?
00:21:13.000 He's not like, wait a minute, that's not how I learned this at school, because he didn't go to school.
00:21:18.000 This isn't how you do it in the National Rifle Association.
00:21:20.000 Because he weren't in the National Rifle Association.
00:21:23.000 What kind of video?
00:21:23.000 For him, that's just a hat.
00:21:25.000 That's just a deadly hat.
00:21:27.000 He's just putting on his deadly dog hat.
00:21:29.000 His gun hat.
00:21:30.000 Gonna go take out some terrorists or gays or whatever.
00:21:34.000 He doesn't get a concept of upside down.
00:21:36.000 Upside down is irrelevant to him.
00:21:38.000 He's not thinking about gravity, sky, floor.
00:21:41.000 All he's is human concept.
00:21:43.000 That's an animalistic concept.
00:21:45.000 He's not really a dog.
00:21:46.000 Focus on the robo, not the dog.
00:21:48.000 Focus on the robo.
00:21:50.000 Robo's not thinking about air, water.
00:21:53.000 Oh, look at that lovely brook.
00:21:55.000 Look at that daffodil.
00:21:56.000 My God, life is fleeting.
00:21:58.000 RoboDog don't think like that.
00:21:59.000 That's not RoboDog's job.
00:22:01.000 RoboDog's job is around the corner, kill the enemies of the state based on data.
00:22:06.000 The enemy of the state this week is LGBTQ2.
00:22:09.000 This week it's Muslims.
00:22:11.000 This week it's Christians.
00:22:12.000 RoboDog don't care about that.
00:22:13.000 Upside down Christian, Muslim, Jew.
00:22:15.000 Bam!
00:22:16.000 With his upside down death hat.
00:22:17.000 That's all he cares about.
00:22:19.000 Gay bomb.
00:22:20.000 Bam!
00:22:20.000 Gay bomb.
00:22:21.000 Turn you gay if you're not gay.
00:22:22.000 We don't care.
00:22:23.000 RoboDog's not interested.
00:22:28.000 I don't like that his head is an open wound.
00:22:32.000 That's what I don't like.
00:22:33.000 It's like when you take G.I. Joe or Action Man's head off and just leave it there like that.
00:22:37.000 He's out of the game now for me when I was a boy.
00:22:40.000 Once the Action Man doesn't have a head, or G.I. Joe in your language, he's no longer a participant.
00:22:45.000 It's not like he can go around using his neck hole and strap an AR to him with tape.
00:22:51.000 No way.
00:22:52.000 You're out of the military, son.
00:22:54.000 Your war is over.
00:22:55.000 Your war's over.
00:22:56.000 Go home, write poetry.
00:22:58.000 I think, speaking of writing poetry, If that fella that made that dog video in the UK, what's he going to do about it?
00:23:06.000 Why are you bringing him up?
00:23:07.000 That's a whole other episode.
00:23:08.000 We've got to reference him.
00:23:08.000 Massy's got to go pull the archive, run that for five seconds here.
00:23:12.000 We're talking about this guy.
00:23:13.000 You think they're going to.
00:23:14.000 What about RoboDogs?
00:23:15.000 What are they going to make a video about RoboDogs?
00:23:17.000 God, he's not going to take RoboDogs.
00:23:19.000 Are there allergies?
00:23:19.000 Imagine if you've got an allergy against real dogs.
00:23:22.000 Oh, well, that's presumably based on what people tend to call dander.
00:23:26.000 Yeah?
00:23:26.000 Dander.
00:23:27.000 Well, RoboDog don't got no dander.
00:23:29.000 He don't got no dander and he ain't got no concept of upside down, left, right.
00:23:34.000 Black, white, he don't care about your coffee shop or your allergies.
00:23:38.000 He's going to come around the corner with his upside down deaf hat and fuck you up.
00:23:43.000 Here he comes.
00:23:44.000 Actually, what about those of us that are shut ins and are scared of upside down deaf hat dog?
00:23:50.000 Yeah, that's actually all of us now because we're all shut ins because they've imposed a lockdown and none of us can go out of the house because if you do, upside down deaf hat dog comes and rounds you the fuck up.
00:24:00.000 And whatever you do, and if you're in Britain, you can't even shoot back at it.
00:24:03.000 What are you going to do?
00:24:04.000 Kick it?
00:24:04.000 Kick it in its open wound neck hole?
00:24:06.000 Stick your foot down its neck?
00:24:09.000 All we know, they can program it to like that.
00:24:11.000 They can program it, that's fisting for it.
00:24:14.000 Or a new word we've not even thought up, legging, like a new thing.
00:24:18.000 A new thing.
00:24:20.000 That robo dog, he ain't on your plane of reality.
00:24:24.000 Good luck with that allergy.
00:24:27.000 Are we too friendly to deaf dogs?
00:24:29.000 Are we really too friendly to robo deaf dogs?
00:24:32.000 Am I too friendly?
00:24:33.000 You are too friendly.
00:24:34.000 Yeah.
00:24:36.000 Whitlock.
00:24:37.000 Whitlock!
00:24:38.000 Turn the car!
00:24:39.000 Hold on, I've got to find it.
00:24:41.000 Turn the car?
00:24:41.000 I've got to find it.
00:24:42.000 Does anyone know how bad it is?
00:24:44.000 I'm going to guess.
00:24:45.000 22.
00:24:47.000 That's kids in Marks and Spencer's, actually, though.
00:24:49.000 I'm actually quite interested in them.
00:24:53.000 24.
00:24:53.000 24.
00:24:54.000 Turn the car around.
00:24:57.000 Oh, sorry, we tried.
00:24:58.000 Can someone come and do this for me?
00:25:02.000 It's fucking Whitlock.
00:25:04.000 What's he done now?
00:25:04.000 He's robbing Marks and Sparks, look.
00:25:12.000 Can you imagine how frightening that would be?
00:25:15.000 Like, I tell you, there's nothing more scary than them, like, 14 year old kids and that.
00:25:19.000 One time, like, I was seeing some kids beating each other up in a park, and I intervened.
00:25:24.000 I've not told you this yet, but I have said this before.
00:25:27.000 These kids were, a group of kids were beating up a little kid in Greys, where I'm from.
00:25:30.000 I was about, I don't know, 20 or something.
00:25:32.000 I was, we are, like, they were going, let's make him eat dirt.
00:25:34.000 And I goes, yo, no one's making anyone eat dirt.
00:25:36.000 These kids turned on me.
00:25:38.000 It was so frightening.
00:25:39.000 They were like, you fucking what?
00:25:40.000 And I was like, Oh shit, I'm out of my depth.
00:25:43.000 Carry on, eat the dirt.
00:25:46.000 These kids were so scary.
00:25:47.000 Is that what you did?
00:25:48.000 You gave up on it?
00:25:49.000 I gave up.
00:25:49.000 They were too scary.
00:25:50.000 They were too scary.
00:25:51.000 They turned on me and I realised, no, you've got no chance.
00:25:54.000 These kids will kill you.
00:25:55.000 They were frightening.
00:25:56.000 It was Lord of the Flies.
00:25:57.000 It was Children of the Corn.
00:25:58.000 It was too much for me.
00:25:59.000 I didn't have the authority.
00:26:00.000 Maybe if I was Eddie Gallagher.
00:26:02.000 Maybe if I'd had a gun.
00:26:03.000 Maybe if I'd had a RoboDog.
00:26:04.000 But not with these kids.
00:26:05.000 And check this out.
00:26:07.000 The one area where you might think I would best them was with witty epithets or maxims.
00:26:14.000 Well, that didn't happen either.
00:26:15.000 One of them goes, Yeah, that's it.
00:26:17.000 Fuck off.
00:26:17.000 You can't play the hero if you don't know the lines.
00:26:22.000 And by the way, I was at that point trying to be an actor.
00:26:25.000 So I was eviscerated by this child.
00:26:28.000 There's some kids that you see that are living on Gatorade and heroin or meth probably these days.
00:26:34.000 Amazing abs.
00:26:35.000 Beautiful kids.
00:26:36.000 They should be right.
00:26:37.000 Let them run Marxist.
00:26:38.000 Here they are.
00:26:39.000 It was like this atmosphere.
00:26:50.000 What are them coppers gonna do?
00:26:51.000 They look so vulnerable, don't they?
00:26:53.000 They look like they belong in the frog box, those coppers.
00:26:56.000 They still have like the whistles.
00:26:57.000 I'm just thinking.
00:26:57.000 Yeah, like, that's enough of that.
00:26:59.000 Hey!
00:27:01.000 What was that in?
00:27:02.000 What was that for?
00:27:03.000 Stop or I'll whistle again.
00:27:04.000 I will whistle so hard.
00:27:06.000 I will whistle down your spy hole.
00:27:08.000 It was like, what was that for?
00:27:10.000 What, the whistles?
00:27:11.000 No, the people doing that in the store.
00:27:13.000 They're doing that just for, I think, anarchic amusement and looks like they're in the ice cream section.
00:27:19.000 So, presumably, ice cream and kicks.
00:27:22.000 I suppose, Jake.
00:27:23.000 What has happened?
00:27:24.000 There's stuff.
00:27:35.000 My god, I mean that's terrifying madness and what's the upside for them?
00:27:38.000 Well they're gonna get some frozen nuggets, they're in the frozen food section.
00:27:42.000 Imagine what they're gonna do when they realise they're gonna be conscripted to fight a war against like Russia and Iran any minute now.
00:27:49.000 They're gonna be peeved but they might do well when they're over there if they can organise and learn how to operate a robo-dog.
00:28:10.000 Noise, man.
00:28:10.000 That school noise.
00:28:11.000 Do you remember that from school?
00:28:12.000 That noise.
00:28:14.000 Kids all out of control.
00:28:16.000 It was mad.
00:28:16.000 Yeah.
00:28:17.000 I don't have to go there.
00:28:18.000 Whenever there was a fight, it was like that.
00:28:20.000 Mad crow sounds.
00:28:21.000 I'm really glad I'm an adult and I don't have to go to school.
00:28:24.000 I hated it.
00:28:26.000 If I had my time, I wouldn't go.
00:28:28.000 I should have.
00:28:28.000 I'd have put.
00:28:29.000 The only amendment I'd have made is I'd have bought the drug program earlier.
00:28:33.000 Like, start younger.
00:28:34.000 You know those kids that start drugs?
00:28:36.000 You were young, weren't you, Dave?
00:28:37.000 Started at 12 or something.
00:28:38.000 Yep.
00:28:39.000 Yeah.
00:28:40.000 We had fucking heroin.
00:28:41.000 The drugs, Dere.
00:28:42.000 There, did what?
00:28:43.000 There, no, you didn't have it.
00:28:45.000 I've seen it, but we didn't have it.
00:28:46.000 It's like a drug program, yeah.
00:28:47.000 It's like a they're bringing up the dare dog and all that.
00:28:53.000 What was it, yeah?
00:28:54.000 Grange Hill, Zamo overdosing on heroin.
00:28:57.000 Every British kid my age knows that.
00:28:59.000 Like, Grange Hill was a TV show, you don't really have an equivalent.
00:29:02.000 Degrassi Junior High, maybe.
00:29:03.000 Do you remember Degrassi Junior High?
00:29:05.000 Well, Grange Hill was like that.
00:29:06.000 And Zamo, who was this lovely character, died in the toilets of the old heroin, and the whole generation.
00:29:13.000 Went heroin, eh?
00:29:14.000 Well, let's try that shit.
00:29:16.000 Like, you know, the message really misfired.
00:29:18.000 They invited them, Nancy Reagan did, to the White House, like with the Just Say No campaign to team it up in the global war against drugs.
00:29:26.000 They bought our ones over there.
00:29:28.000 So, all these kids from Grange Hill, oh my goodness, so funny now because now all those kids from Grange Hill do media where they were all doing drugs in the toilet at the White House.
00:29:36.000 They were just like kid actors, like 15 year old actors.
00:29:38.000 So, they were doing coke and smoking weed in the White House toilets while they were visiting the White House, anti drug.
00:29:46.000 Global at Nancy Reagan just say no campaign because they did a song called Just Say No.
00:29:51.000 In fact, Massey, you can build something brilliant here.
00:29:53.000 Here are the assets one, just say no, and here is just say no.
00:29:57.000 And two, here is an interview of them actors saying that they did drugs in the toilets.
00:30:02.000 And three, here is like news footage of all them kids being at the White House.
00:30:09.000 That's very, very funny.
00:30:11.000 I'm having a hard time, uh, when my kids are like, I don't want to go to school, I'm having a hard time being like, no, you need to.
00:30:17.000 No, come on.
00:30:18.000 How are you going to get indoctrinated into being a passive consumer?
00:30:21.000 I'm like, I'm sorry, man.
00:30:24.000 I don't want to tell you, this sucks.
00:30:27.000 My kids don't have to go.
00:30:29.000 They're waking up too early.
00:30:31.000 You got to go to bed.
00:30:32.000 They're all just like, oh.
00:30:34.000 I feel like, oh, a guy at one of the Maha things to my face said, What time do your kids wake up?
00:30:39.000 And I was like, I got to get them out of bed by six.
00:30:42.000 And he said, Child abuse.
00:30:43.000 Yeah.
00:30:44.000 And I was like, and that's the guy that said, All right, see you on the other side.
00:30:48.000 Jumped out of the window.
00:30:50.000 You're like Alex Harland.
00:30:52.000 Homework was the worst thing.
00:30:54.000 They've got you for eight or seven hours or whatever a day, and then they're like, now go home and do this at home.
00:30:59.000 Like, fuck off.
00:31:00.000 You can't get me prepared for the world in like six hours.
00:31:02.000 I've got to then not play with toys and do your shitty work at home.
00:31:06.000 It's no good, man.
00:31:07.000 It's no good.
00:31:08.000 But luckily, the angry mobs are fighting back.
00:31:12.000 Keir Starmer is the least popular British Prime Minister there's ever been.
00:31:17.000 Here he is being.
00:31:18.000 Surrounded by an angry mob.
00:31:20.000 I've not watched this yet.
00:31:21.000 I'm pretty excited about it because I, again, see, I care, I enjoy it.
00:31:25.000 I enjoy seeing this when really what I should feel is limitless compassion for Keir Starmer, a child of God.
00:31:31.000 But what I am feeling is instead, I'm going to enjoy seeing people shouting stuff at him.
00:31:36.000 Here it is.
00:31:42.000 Look at that Lammy, that's the Home Secretary.
00:31:44.000 He looks terrified.
00:31:46.000 He's on him.
00:31:47.000 It's like, oh no, everyone hates us.
00:31:49.000 This is what it is.
00:31:50.000 This is what your dreams have come to.
00:31:51.000 And that Lammy.
00:31:52.000 He was like an activist politician for a while.
00:31:54.000 He came forward when a guy died in police custody and it was all a bit suspicious.
00:32:00.000 I feel like Lammy handled that gear pretty well.
00:32:03.000 That's like 20 years ago now.
00:32:05.000 But look at them all.
00:32:06.000 Unpopular.
00:32:07.000 Surrounded by the mob.
00:32:31.000 Child abuser.
00:32:32.000 That's the stuff, man.
00:32:34.000 That is not a popular leader.
00:32:35.000 When a country reaches that kind of pitch, when you can see that level of anarchy in a store that we saw before, where the kids are going wild in the aisles just for ice cream, then you see a Prime Minister taking a scheduled Instagram walk to some vehicle, presumably for their own ridiculous PR purposes.
00:32:53.000 You see that the temperature of the UK is rising and changing, and it's going to become more and more difficult to manage that.
00:32:59.000 Now, of course, the challenge is, how does that energy not get funneled into some neutered cul-de-sac around?
00:33:05.000 I don't know, probably pretty much any political movement that winds up in Westminster, our equivalent of Congress, just a Gothic building, just a facade full of interesting geometric information, if you're interested in how frequencies operate, but an institution nevertheless designed to keep a chokehold on the British people, the British people that seem, on the basis of that footage, To be getting angry, but that's just what I think.
00:33:31.000 Let me know what you think in the comments and the chat.
00:33:35.000 Does the UK seem to be on the rise?
00:33:42.000 What's the geezer with Captain Canada doing there?
00:33:48.000 It's gotten to that copper as well because that copper's charged with protect them and they're feeling that heat.
00:33:54.000 Human beings come to the forefront, the uniform melts away as the endocrinal kick starts to surge and rise.
00:34:02.000 You can't run countries like this no more.
00:34:04.000 We are entering.
00:34:04.000 End times?
00:34:05.000 It doesn't.
00:34:06.000 It's not a prediction.
00:34:07.000 Really that's particularly novel, really just a diagnosis.
00:34:10.000 That's obvious.
00:34:10.000 The world can't carry on going like this for much longer.
00:34:14.000 We're probably.
00:34:15.000 You know, project 2030 was always on the agenda.
00:34:17.000 I loved it when our man Uh guest on the show you should check out the video.
00:34:21.000 Um, our man, Mickey Willis, said that probably Covid precipitated a kind of speeding up.
00:34:28.000 They weren't quite ready.
00:34:29.000 But the agenda 2030, look it up.
00:34:32.000 It's a real thing that over the next few years, I reckon in particular, There will be successive events, most likely.
00:34:37.000 It looks like wars now, doesn't it?
00:34:38.000 And energy shortages that will be used to legitimize control.
00:34:42.000 Because you can see there that if that kind of unruly mob energy was fused and processed through reliable systems of direct democracy, there's an exhaustion with institutional politics.
00:34:58.000 Nigel Farage would be in exactly that position in two years.
00:35:02.000 That's what's happening.
00:35:04.000 The gap is concertinaing shut.
00:35:06.000 Like, even if you're a pre-ardent Trump fan, and I remain.
00:35:10.000 Enamored of his persona, say, like I like the way he deals with things, he's a I like him as a personality, but you it's very difficult to remain enthusiastic through the sort of trudge of like war and oh god, this isn't it, is it?
00:35:25.000 This is not the America first that we were all so up for.
00:35:28.000 Now, in Britain, there ain't even a sort of a charismatic figure like that to carry that kind of freight.
00:35:33.000 It's going to be getting intense, intense.
00:35:36.000 Yes, the UK is in serious trouble.
00:35:38.000 Have a look.
00:35:57.000 Where's Jimmy Savile?
00:35:58.000 Because when he was at the CPS, Keir Starmer, that means he ran the Crown Prosecution Service, that's our equivalent of the Attorney General, he protected, some say, high-profile paedophiles like Jimmy Savile, who was known to be a fixer, and he had a TV show called Jimmy.
00:36:14.000 Fix it, which led to the brilliant Incomparable, in fact Uh, Frankie Boyle joke.
00:36:19.000 Other paedophiles must be very jealous of Jimmy, Of Jimmy, of Jimmy Savile.
00:36:23.000 What hang on, what go, what?
00:36:26.000 You guys got some puppies in a van and a bag of sweets.
00:36:28.000 I've got my own tv show where I fulfill children's wishes amazing, amazing joke.
00:36:33.000 So Jimmy Savile was like always getting obed and member to MBE.
00:36:37.000 These are sort of accolades that the British establishment can issue.
00:36:40.000 He had a knighthood and all that kind of stuff.
00:36:41.000 He was always doing charity marathons and Louis Thurou did a show about him.
00:36:45.000 But There's some sense and suspicion that he was protected by the BBC and other British institutions that manage power.
00:36:53.000 What I think we're seeing now, and even in this brief cortege video of Keir Starmer being slammed and abused by an angry passing mob, is the collapsing of the amount of time afforded to leaders.
00:37:06.000 They're having to shuffle so fast.
00:37:08.000 Rishi Sunak, Keir Starmer, in a minute it'll be Nigel Farage under a new rebooted Tory party, but it won't get much grace and largesse.
00:37:16.000 If it is unable to make the kind of changes that the people are literally now demanding.
00:37:22.000 And as you can hear just from the slogans they're shouting, they're not like, we want tax breaks, are they?
00:37:27.000 Or we don't want these unpopular wars.
00:37:29.000 No, this is, we are disgusted by you.
00:37:32.000 We think you are the worst thing that it's possible to be.
00:37:35.000 Paedophiles, sex criminals, that's how they regard their leaders.
00:37:39.000 When there's that level of contempt, revolutionary change is inevitable.
00:37:42.000 It's coming, it's coming fast.
00:37:45.000 And the only way that the system, the institutions of existing e.g. you know, so-called democratic power will be able to manage it is legitimizing restriction and that's what you're going to see.
00:37:57.000 That's what I predict.
00:37:58.000 But that's just what I think.
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00:41:14.000 Welcome to Crack On.
00:41:16.000 Today we'll be talking about working with others.
00:41:21.000 Anyone that's in recovery from addiction using 12 step techniques, if that's what you want to call them, has to work with others.
00:41:28.000 This is from the Alcoholics Anonymous literature, known colloquially as the Big Book and literally as Alcoholics Anonymous, that the fellowship takes its name.
00:41:37.000 From the book.
00:41:38.000 This is from chapter seven.
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00:42:31.000 The thing that mostly affected me, Dave, is intensive work with others.
00:42:40.000 Work works when other activities fail.
00:42:45.000 I suppose that's like because it gives you a sense of purpose.
00:42:49.000 Well, I mean, you've said it a lot.
00:42:54.000 The way the devil enters is through self, right?
00:42:58.000 The way the world gets you is through self.
00:43:00.000 And nothing that I've ever done besides working with others, intensely working with them, doing fifth steps with them, sponsoring them, going on 12 step calls gets me out of that.
00:43:12.000 I mean, it metaphysically just removes my head thinking about me and trying to meet my own needs.
00:43:20.000 Do you then sometimes force yourself?
00:43:22.000 To go and help someone else, even though you really don't feel like it, just because it will help almost always.
00:43:30.000 It's rarely that I'm like, Oh man, I really want to interrupt my day and go talk to this addict or someone that's struggling.
00:43:39.000 I mean, I think of a good experience that you had once that you shared with me.
00:43:44.000 Um, I mean, you've worked with guys for like me for 20 something years, and so, um, I think of you and You and Laura both were trying to help a couple, and the husband would go off and it would be bad.
00:44:01.000 And he was, I think he was suicidal.
00:44:03.000 And you would have to go up to the school, and he was causing a scene.
00:44:06.000 And you were always trying to go up there and help them and help them.
00:44:10.000 It's like it's, you know, some of those really hard cases are some of the best as far as like getting out of self.
00:44:19.000 But it's not always just sitting around coffee talking to someone.
00:44:24.000 A lot of times you enter into their chaos.
00:44:27.000 Well, it's like Christianity, huh?
00:44:28.000 Like there's sometimes the image of Christianity as being, well, lukewarm, you know, to sort of quote Revelation, like a version of it, which is quite sort of conversational.
00:44:36.000 And the same with AA, or excuse me, 12 steps.
00:44:40.000 There can be 12 steps that are very.
00:44:42.000 Like, you know, that's why I suppose I like some of the narcotic oriented ones because if you're at Narcotics Anonymous, even though in general I think that, gosh, not to get too niche, that AA is a superior program because the literature is so amazing and there's, generally speaking, a weight of folks that have been committed and stay committed.
00:45:03.000 The thing is, when you go to a narcotics oriented place or program or fellowship or group, you're dealing with people that are criminals by default by virtue of the fact that they're taking illegal drugs.
00:45:12.000 So there's that.
00:45:13.000 And you get like this intensity, people tend to be younger, like, drugs messes you up earlier than alcohol in general.
00:45:21.000 But there are like totally exceptions because I meet often alcoholics that are screw ups, like, that have really messed their life up.
00:45:29.000 But there's something about like that intensity of the world of, you know, drug addicts.
00:45:35.000 And I suppose what I'm talking about really is, but what we're talking about here in particular is the ability of the 12th step, which is helping others and carrying the message.
00:45:45.000 To get you out of self.
00:45:46.000 See, in the last few days, I've been in self real bad.
00:45:48.000 And it's only this morning that I recognize that when I'm in it, it's not like my personal circumstances are causing me fear and shame.
00:45:57.000 The potential for fear and shame is latent within me, waiting for the stimulant to go, it goes active, right?
00:46:07.000 Eckhart Tolle would call it the shame body.
00:46:10.000 Christians would say your identity is not in Christ, that when you've not got your identity in Christ, but your identity is in worldliness.
00:46:17.000 And alcoholics would call it the disease.
00:46:20.000 The disease, you know, um, do you sort of when you're occupied by that, when you feel that sort of parasitic poltergeist like personal occupation, like the opposite of having being a temple for the Holy Spirit, actually feeling like, oh my god, kind of possessed?
00:46:34.000 You feel can you some do you sometimes find it odd, Dave, to go, all right, I better call someone else and check how they are?
00:46:40.000 Because I almost always, right, almost always, I don't, I default to self, it's the default.
00:46:47.000 I mean, when I wake up, I'm defaulting.
00:46:50.000 To self.
00:46:51.000 And so I have to actively work to get out of it.
00:46:53.000 I mean, 86 to 88 in the mornings has helped me a lot lately.
00:46:57.000 And it's only been the last three weeks, three or maybe four weeks that I've been consistently 86 to 88 as soon as I can.
00:47:06.000 And I just, hey, on awakening, think about 24 hours ahead, consider my plans for the day, ask God to direct my thinking, you know, and just starting to try and get centered early, early on in the day.
00:47:20.000 But I still think throughout the years, out of all the steps, throughout, Throughout the years, I would not be, I don't see how I could be sober today if it wasn't for the 12 steps because there's been, it's sometimes probably years worth of not being spiritual, living and, but I always worked with other alcoholics.
00:47:44.000 It's the thing that saves the day.
00:47:46.000 Like it all other matters, all, there's another part of the book says all other measures fell, work with another alcoholic will save the day.
00:47:54.000 I actually find it, like you, find it difficult, but perhaps unlike you, sometimes I actually just won't do it.
00:48:01.000 I'm like, I'm too insular.
00:48:03.000 I can't talk to people anymore.
00:48:04.000 That's one of the things that happens in my disease I cut off.
00:48:07.000 I don't want to talk to no one.
00:48:08.000 I don't want to be around people.
00:48:10.000 Because really, that is, yeah, I'm in what I would just call sort of the vicinity of suicide.
00:48:18.000 Really, what I'm edging towards is I don't want to be alive anymore.
00:48:21.000 And the thing is, is that I've never really lost that.
00:48:25.000 You know, that's always been there.
00:48:27.000 And when it comes, when it returns, it feels so authentic and real and leaden and weighty and material.
00:48:33.000 It doesn't feel like, oh, this is just that thing that happens where you go a bit suicidal.
00:48:37.000 No, it feels like, well, here you are, you've arrived.
00:48:40.000 Now, like, it's only actually that suicide requires, at least it seems to me, for me personally, would require like an urgent burst of power to do it.
00:48:51.000 Like, you know, I'd have to have the rush and the whoosh of, like, right, that's it, I'm going to get high.
00:48:57.000 And then I'm using that, you know what I mean?
00:48:59.000 Like, But that's, you know, sometimes that's what's stopping me.
00:49:02.000 Not faith.
00:49:04.000 Not faith.
00:49:05.000 But I bet you, even in there, what got you out of it a lot of times was ended up helping someone else and thinking of their problems.
00:49:05.000 Yeah.
00:49:13.000 Like, even though you may stay in that for a little while, which I do too.
00:49:17.000 Like, I'm not going to go help that guy.
00:49:19.000 I don't really care.
00:49:20.000 I'm going to stay in my stuff.
00:49:21.000 I'm going to sit in it.
00:49:23.000 But eventually, I'll think of someone else and I'll work towards helping someone else.
00:49:28.000 You get a lot of, you get a lot of, because you, I mean, you just go anywhere and people will recognize you and come up to you, and you'll spend a lot of time getting out of stuff just talking with people and praying with a lot of people.
00:49:43.000 You pray with a lot of random people.
00:49:45.000 That's the kind of you to say thank you.
00:49:47.000 You know, but I think it may just look different for you because you're trying to help people spiritually, but.
00:49:58.000 It gets bombarded with you.
00:50:00.000 And so there'll be times that you need a break.
00:50:02.000 Sometimes I need triage.
00:50:03.000 And like what happened over the last few days has been like I needed, firstly, I did something called tapping solutions.
00:50:12.000 It's like a body thing, a bit like EDMR, where you tap.
00:50:15.000 And I'm fortunate to be friends with Nick Ortner, who started it.
00:50:19.000 And the thing is with that is it is actually disrupting your body.
00:50:22.000 It's like a therapeutic session, if you can imagine, where you would directly say, This is what's bothering me.
00:50:27.000 You know, I'm terrified by these legal challenges.
00:50:31.000 Um, okay, well, where do you feel it in your body?
00:50:34.000 Here in the stomach, okay.
00:50:35.000 And well, then, like, you have a conversation if you're fortunate enough to know, you know, the person that can practice it.
00:50:41.000 Elsewise, I guess you'd be doing it on an app.
00:50:43.000 Indeed, the tapping solution is the app that I would use, it's very good, and I really recommend it.
00:50:47.000 Um, that's almost like gestalt, gestalt type therapy.
00:50:51.000 Yeah, is that bodily then?
00:50:52.000 Yeah, gestalt would be like, where do you feel it?
00:50:55.000 What and then you'd give it a voice, and what is it saying?
00:50:59.000 Right, I feel it right here.
00:51:00.000 Talk therapy, though, Dave.
00:51:02.000 Like, this is like, I think it's very important that you are doing this.
00:51:05.000 I think it's interventionist, right?
00:51:07.000 In the same way as maybe, I don't know, acupuncture could be or some sort of light therapy.
00:51:10.000 You know, those things, have you ever done that?
00:51:12.000 EDMR, where you watch a thing like a pen or a light, and then they get you.
00:51:16.000 Have you ever heard of that, Jake?
00:51:17.000 Like, it's, I think that stuff, that, that, I do get a sense of thawing in the actual physical, right?
00:51:23.000 And then, like, this guy, Jamie Winship, who wrote that book, Living Fearless, like, he's really helped me with this identity idea that, like, when you're in shame and pain, You've gone back into your worldly identity.
00:51:37.000 Like, you've lost your connection with who you really are.
00:51:39.000 Like, the idea that you are beloved and anointed and appointed and exactly how He created you, they just become kind of concepts to me.
00:51:47.000 And I think the same thing is true, maybe, of the idea of helping another person.
00:51:51.000 It's an action.
00:51:52.000 You've got to go, all right, then I'm going to go and help this person and listen to them.
00:51:56.000 And it does, it really does.
00:51:57.000 I mean, the reason, like, I love Joe so much, actually, is because, very, in the, when I was, like, the sort of white noise explosion of, Being falsely accused of sexual crimes.
00:52:10.000 Like, Joe was on holiday in Brazil and, like, he was just ringing me up, just talking about his own shit all the time.
00:52:16.000 He goes, Oh, yeah, see that thing?
00:52:17.000 Were you in the news?
00:52:18.000 Listen, this has happened to me.
00:52:20.000 And it's all he would talk about.
00:52:22.000 But the funny thing is, Joe's is interesting.
00:52:25.000 His psychosis is interesting.
00:52:27.000 You know, like, his disease is interesting.
00:52:29.000 Like, when he's describing that plate of ice cream or how he feels when he's confronted, like, I get good identification from him.
00:52:37.000 And, like, it was just a.
00:52:39.000 During the time I was talking to him, I was I guess I was in the back of a car going to see my kid who was having heart surgery with security guys, knowing that I was all over the news, but I'm listening to a joke and then this fucking cunt I'm like, yeah, no, man, that ain't good, right?
00:52:56.000 Well, listen.
00:52:58.000 And it was like a great balm for me.
00:53:02.000 You know, like it was like, ugh.
00:53:04.000 Yeah.
00:53:05.000 Because you, on some level, you like, think about all the time you're encountering people that are going through something.
00:53:09.000 You think, well, I don't want to change places with that person.
00:53:11.000 I don't want to change places with people that are in Gaza.
00:53:14.000 I don't want to change places with people that are grieving a dead child.
00:53:17.000 I don't want to change places.
00:53:18.000 There's all these things that you know.
00:53:20.000 But somehow it's just a concept, doesn't it?
00:53:22.000 It doesn't get you in your guts and your belly.
00:53:25.000 Whereas I suppose helping another person, you are different.
00:53:28.000 You are identifying with a different person, part of yourself at least.
00:53:31.000 I think, you know, I don't know who said the quote, but.
00:53:34.000 You can't be selfish and selfless at the same time.
00:53:38.000 It's not possible to be that.
00:53:41.000 So, even when you're helping somebody out, it is, you can maybe do it for selfish motives, but for the most part, if you really focus on what they're doing, you're not in self anymore because it's not possible to be if you're really on their thing for a little while.
00:53:58.000 Sainly people have completely, one of the things one might notice about, I guess in Vedas, they'd call it Bhakti, the yoga of love.
00:54:08.000 Like, say someone like Mother Teresa of Calcutta, as far as I can tell, she just All the time is helping someone.
00:54:15.000 She's not doing any other activities.
00:54:17.000 She's just like, right, get up, wash this thing, raise this money, do, you know, she ain't ever going, and now I might watch Down and Abbey and have a wank.
00:54:26.000 You know, it's not going to be that for Mother Teresa.
00:54:28.000 And like, I met this other lady, Amma, and they said one of her followers, Amma, who has this sort of ashram of thousands of people and she's doing a bunch, you know, she's an incredible human being actually.
00:54:38.000 Like, but when, like, she's, one of her followers says she has no personal life.
00:54:43.000 She doesn't have a personal life.
00:54:44.000 She doesn't go off and, like, all right, I'm me now.
00:54:47.000 And, like, think of our Lord.
00:54:49.000 It's like, even in that minute when John the Baptist gets beheaded and he's grief stricken and goes off to pray, he's like, he's followed by people, but it says something like he's felt compassion for them and just cracked on and helped them, like, because that's what was required of him.
00:55:08.000 And I suppose for me, sometimes, I guess, when I'm, I don't know what language to use anymore, but depressed or not in the spirit, when I feel like I've lost my connection, like, I like getting up, like I feel like, and I've been around someone recently, huh?
00:55:21.000 That's like, once someone's disconnected from the source, you're like, well, you, your job now.
00:55:26.000 I mean, I can see why people medicalize it because it does look like a medical matter.
00:55:32.000 Like when someone's just like switched off, like they've not got no, you know, is because doesn't it always seem like you're just saying, well, just cheer up, cheer up, like you know?
00:55:40.000 And I remember when I'm so excited, that is not gonna help me, man.
00:55:44.000 Like, it does feel like I need fucking biochemical disruption right now.
00:55:50.000 I want a chemical disruption.
00:55:51.000 To go in my body and sort of blast it all out.
00:55:54.000 But indeed, the point being contested, to reference back to our, hold on, dimethyltryptamine conversation earlier, is.
00:56:05.000 What that chemical is plainly, not plainly, but one could argue is doing, is it's disrupting, loosening the restriction that the senses place on the psyche.
00:56:15.000 And in that state, one gains a sensitivity to frequency and information that's previously inaccessible.
00:56:22.000 But it is there, like those beings are there.
00:56:25.000 It's not like, whoa, man, I'm seeing pink elephants.
00:56:28.000 No, it's like, fuck me.
00:56:30.000 The mask has come off, the veil has lifted, and I can see a different level of reality.
00:56:35.000 So, what I am.
00:56:37.000 Believe the epiphany, like you know, take a great scriptural example.
00:56:43.000 Saul is on his way to Damascus to pursue what he regarded as his life mission the persecution and execution of Christians.
00:56:49.000 Then something happens to him, and after that, he's a different person for the rest of his life.
00:56:55.000 He has you know, three days of blindness, three years of training, and then it's one thing after another jail, shipwrecks, floggings, beat ins.
00:57:05.000 But now the eye is singular, and like I guess that's where I feel we're.
00:57:11.000 What we're circling now is how much more time do you need to dedicate to being instructed that you belong to Christ?
00:57:21.000 Go and live a Christian life, not some little Christian life ensconced in suburbia or wherever.
00:57:27.000 Get out there, soldier.
00:57:30.000 There's your marching orders.
00:57:31.000 Like Paul, I can only imagine, didn't spend too much time.
00:57:36.000 Oh, I'm going to do this for a while now.
00:57:38.000 You know, tent making.
00:57:40.000 Even in that step, as The identity of you are this too, so therefore help this person.
00:57:48.000 I mean, that's the way that it should always be built in.
00:57:51.000 Even using Paul as the example, he would go, I was this, this, and this.
00:57:56.000 And he was never like, You know, he was if they kept doing the wrong thing over and over again, he'd put them back to the truth.
00:58:03.000 But I think that's a key deal.
00:58:05.000 And Dave will probably talk to it a lot, but like the church's problem sometimes is they forget where they were.
00:58:13.000 Like you become a Christian and then all of a sudden you're.
00:58:16.000 Forget to walk through life with people who are also going through issues, or you want God to do, you forget that God's infinitely creative.
00:58:27.000 And if He was able to get you, He can get any people that are struggling with anything.
00:58:33.000 It doesn't have to fit the same form that you think it should fit.
00:58:37.000 I sometimes, when dealing with a drug addict or a person that I'm trying to help, I feel like personally, like I've got to come up with something.
00:58:47.000 Right, this, this.
00:58:48.000 You know, like I'm like searching for ideas and stuff to say that's going to be what I've heard someone else say, like the silver bullet that's going to go, oh, and you sort of hit them.
00:58:57.000 But actually, you can't do that.
00:58:59.000 No.
00:59:00.000 You can't, I mean, you can't truly change them spiritually.
00:59:03.000 But do you think that's wrong that you search for things and like, I see that as working with the gifts that God gave you.
00:59:09.000 I mean, I guess it could be off if you think, Dave, I think, like, because I think I'm trying to do the results.
00:59:16.000 Because see, like, our man over here, Jake, always says, he's like, when the anointing is on you, when it's on me, Like, I I know it and I feel it.
00:59:25.000 And in my interactions with people, peace is being generated and harmony and love is being, the fruits are occurring.
00:59:32.000 Then sometimes I'm trying out of self, you know, on self reliance, as it would say in the 12 step program, like trying to sort of pull from me a kind of solution.
00:59:45.000 And it's actually not in me, you know, like that's what I guess that peace that passes all understanding might look like under pressure is well, God, we're going through this, are we?
00:59:55.000 I'm here, man.
00:59:56.000 I'm here in faith.
00:59:57.000 I'm going to live by faith, not by sight.
00:59:59.000 Your grace is sufficient for me.
01:00:01.000 I'm just going to go through this till you tell me.
01:00:03.000 When you tell me to move, I'll move.
01:00:05.000 That's beautiful, man.
01:00:05.000 Yeah.
01:00:06.000 Because you can no longer fake it.
01:00:09.000 And I think because it's going, you're going to instantly feel like I'm doing this on my own or I'm faking it and you can see the result of it.
01:00:18.000 Or maybe in the past, you could have gone a long, long period of time of being in self.
01:00:23.000 Maybe years.
01:00:24.000 I mean, I think that's actually what addiction can do.
01:00:27.000 Is I think it can suspend unconscious states.
01:00:30.000 Like, if you are, as I was, to be personal, like, if you're having sex three or four times a day in ways that are pretty interesting, either with strangers or multiple partners, you're sort of like, you're defibrillating yourself out of the necessary arrival at the kind of despair that delivers truth to you, showed them the truth.
01:00:53.000 Like, yeah.
01:00:54.000 Or if you're on drugs, obviously then you're in it with chemicals.
01:00:58.000 Oh, no, no, no, no, you don't.
01:00:59.000 I'm going to keep it there, you know?
01:01:01.000 Yeah.
01:01:02.000 It's doing you a kind of service because, you know, to your point earlier, I guess what that sort of suggests to me is that part of the mission will be to go and be among those very people.
01:01:12.000 But that is in the proclamation.
01:01:14.000 Go among the broken and the weak and the addicted and people that have done sex work and they're deeply ashamed.
01:01:19.000 And obviously in my case, it's going to be a lot of broken women and be around them with absolute love, absolute love.
01:01:26.000 And go, right, you want me here, God.
01:01:28.000 What shall I do?
01:01:29.000 And for me, the challenge is to sort of decouple it from, Obviously, I'm going to be required to be doing some glamorous shit up the front.
01:01:36.000 You know, like, yeah, that's the line.
01:01:37.000 Well, the spark light reignite thing we talk about all the time.
01:01:40.000 You're not responsible for any part of that process.
01:01:42.000 Yeah.
01:01:43.000 You're, you, like, we'll just go into situations and have conversation with people as we feel led to.
01:01:50.000 And whatever the result of it is, that's up to God.
01:01:53.000 If it does spark, you can't go, I'm going to spark this person.
01:01:56.000 No.
01:01:57.000 I'm going to reignite this person.
01:01:58.000 Or even coming in with the silver bullet.
01:02:02.000 You know, maybe you do have a couple interactions where you have that one line that it happens, you know, where it makes it hard, yeah, and it does happen.
01:02:10.000 And then that's the whole uh, Paul and Apollos, he waters, I plant, God, you know, that that in scripture, yeah, you shouldn't be into Apollos or Paul.
01:02:20.000 God's the one who does it.
01:02:21.000 We just do the thing you go in there with love freely, be as selfless as you possibly can, caring for other people, and leave the results up to God.
01:02:31.000 I just got then like suicide prevention.
01:02:34.000 My own and others.
01:02:36.000 Like, that's part of what I'm in.
01:02:37.000 I'm in suicide prevention.
01:02:39.000 Like, that's it.
01:02:40.000 It's not a higher, you know, we're going to conform decentralized communities of direct digital democracies.
01:02:46.000 We're going to liberate people from Babylon.
01:02:49.000 It's suicide.
01:02:50.000 Like, are you suicidal?
01:02:52.000 Yeah, me too.
01:02:53.000 Okay, let's try not to commit suicide then.
01:02:58.000 And then maybe God will handle the next.
01:03:00.000 Let Him do the rest.
01:03:02.000 Just don't kill yourself.
01:03:04.000 You have to purposely be on mission though, and you have to say yes to those things that come up.
01:03:09.000 Send me.
01:03:09.000 And put yourself in positions where you can help other alcoholics or addicts.
01:03:14.000 Well, yeah, that's true.
01:03:16.000 I think of the way, I mean, I won't say anything about it, but I mean, our families took a vacation specifically because me and you were going to meet someone.
01:03:30.000 And so, I mean, we specifically went there with our families and lined our vacation up so that me and you could go 12 step.
01:03:38.000 Yeah.
01:03:38.000 You know, and, and the, I don't worry about the results.
01:03:42.000 I can't, you know, don't have any expectations on the results.
01:03:46.000 Hope, have hope for the results.
01:03:48.000 But, but we went there and, Really try like, and it made the vacation for me just going on a vacation.
01:03:58.000 Okay, cool.
01:04:00.000 But, but it, it brings, it really brings like, it just brings that purpose to it that my life is a deeper purpose.
01:04:09.000 This mission of helping other alcoholics, helping people with my back, back experiences.
01:04:14.000 I think you, you have, you have other experiences too that you help people with constantly.
01:04:20.000 If they're suicidal, if they're struggling with.
01:04:23.000 I think you help a lot of people just be honest.
01:04:26.000 A lot of people just need to hear someone just be that honest.
01:04:30.000 Thank you, Vizinho.
01:04:32.000 Because I do that on purpose.
01:04:33.000 Like, say if I'm bored in a 12 step scenario, my main technique is raw honesty.
01:04:43.000 Raw honesty.
01:04:46.000 And I try and do that in this work also.
01:04:48.000 Yeah.
01:04:49.000 And that's why.
01:04:50.000 But the beginning of what's happening legally and criminally with the British various systems and institutions in the UK was, I felt like, how can this be happening?
01:05:03.000 I'm like, and one of my lawyers finally answers that.
01:05:06.000 He goes, he's almost frighteningly honest.
01:05:10.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:05:11.000 You're like a lawyer's worst nightmare because they're like, don't say that.
01:05:14.000 Don't say that.
01:05:15.000 People would know.
01:05:17.000 People would know because, like, I'm in a 12 step program.
01:05:21.000 I've been in a 12 step program for 23 years.
01:05:23.000 There's people that I've had to say, But, like, if there's something that bothers me, I have to tell somebody.
01:05:29.000 I have to go, hey, listen, this fucking really mad, bad thing happened and I really need help.
01:05:34.000 And blah, blah, you know, and you could subpoena a whole bunch of people that would go, yeah, I don't know, unless he's been lying to me for 23 years.
01:05:41.000 This ain't true.
01:05:42.000 Yeah.
01:05:42.000 Yeah.
01:05:42.000 Thanks.
01:05:43.000 That's helpful.
01:05:44.000 All right.
01:05:45.000 Well, like, okay.
01:05:46.000 So the medicine is to help others, the wounded healer is the image.
01:05:51.000 And if you take Christ outside of time, it's he that is wounded infinitely and into annihilation that provides maximal.
01:05:59.000 Healing.
01:06:00.000 They're not inside time.
01:06:02.000 God is not inside time.
01:06:03.000 The triune God is not inside time.
01:06:05.000 It's happening continually, like it says in that Ethiopian gospel.
01:06:08.000 Whatever happens to him when he descends into hell and ascends and the temple curtain tears open, it's beyond literalism, it's beyond history, it's beyond mythology.
01:06:19.000 Indeed, Rene Girard, who I've been reading some of, says that it's the anti myth that proves all other myths not true because all other myths, i.e., the buried God, the cannibalized God, the virgin birth, all of those concoctions and ideas that have been traveling through time, suggesting some sort of universal consciousness, by the way, on the way, or some omnipresence at least, somehow capitulate into the innocent God who dies for our sins.
01:06:49.000 Thank you, Jesus.
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01:07:14.000 We got Joby Weeks coming up.
01:07:14.000 Yeah?
01:07:16.000 Hey, Joby Weeks is coming on the show.
01:07:18.000 Joby Weeks is a freedom fighter and hero.
01:07:20.000 He was on board early with the bitcoins and cryptocurrencies, recognizing that bitcoin mining was going to make him and a lot of people rich.
01:07:26.000 He's got great ideology.
01:07:27.000 Here's a clip from the brilliant film by our friend Mickey Willis called Free Joby.
01:07:34.000 Check it out.
01:07:35.000 Now the new currency is growing in popularity.
01:07:38.000 It's even been called the future.
01:07:39.000 Bitcoin, this mysterious digital currency.
01:07:42.000 We're asking whether or not this currency really has any longevity, let alone legitimacy.
01:07:47.000 I'm not an expert in cryptocurrency, but I have my doubts about it.
01:07:52.000 When Bitcoin was coming out, nobody really knew what a Bitcoin was, but we already had a mint minting gold and silver coins, and so we thought, well, let's make a Bitcoin coin.
01:08:01.000 So we designed the logo and we put on the backside this private key so you could actually load a physical coin with crypto.
01:08:09.000 And somebody said to me, well, Bitcoin is a golden egg or you can buy the goose that lays golden eggs.
01:08:14.000 And at the time, somebody had told me about this club called BitClub Network is one of the fastest growing business models worldwide.
01:08:22.000 They're selling mining hardware, computer equipment.
01:08:24.000 And I was like, interesting.
01:08:26.000 That's exactly what I want to be doing.
01:08:29.000 So I joined BitClub as a member.
01:08:31.000 You can get literally a piece of every little transaction that takes place.
01:08:35.000 Anywhere in the world.
01:08:35.000 It's really exciting to think about.
01:08:37.000 And I thought, if this works, this could be something huge.
01:08:41.000 If a laptop computer would make a dollar a day in Bitcoin, then what would happen if we filled an entire data center with a million laptop computers?
01:08:49.000 We'd make a million dollars a day, right?
01:08:52.000 So that's what we decided to do.
01:08:55.000 We set up a data center in Iceland, we got one in Georgia, and one in Norway.
01:08:59.000 We got some power out of Canada.
01:09:00.000 We're building this one in Montana, which is going to be the largest Bitcoin mine in the world.
01:09:04.000 It's 300 megawatts.
01:09:05.000 It's monstrous.
01:09:07.000 When you have machines that print money, that gives you the freedom to travel.
01:09:10.000 Last year, we did 152 countries.
01:09:14.000 And what do we do?
01:09:15.000 We talk about Bitcoin all the time, everywhere we go.
01:09:20.000 That's what I basically did.
01:09:22.000 I flew around doing these huge seminars and conferences and crypto events.
01:09:27.000 And unfortunately, I became a target for hackers and thieves.
01:09:35.000 What's really ironic too is Joby was actually getting hacked by a nefarious character, and Joby was the one who actually brought it to the FBI.
01:09:44.000 I tracked the Bitcoin to a wall with over a billion dollars in it, and I give it to them on a silver platter, this dossier.
01:09:50.000 I'm like, here's the hacker.
01:09:51.000 And they're like, well, how do we say this?
01:09:53.000 There's an investigation going on on you.
01:09:56.000 And instead of going after the bad actor, they then flipped it and went after Joby instead.
01:10:00.000 So I fly to Washington, D.C., to the Ritz Carlton to sit down with these agents.
01:10:05.000 They just have About an hour's worth of questions about BitClub.
01:10:08.000 I show them, yeah, these are what the data centers look like.
01:10:11.000 It's a private membership association.
01:10:13.000 They don't take dollars.
01:10:14.000 It's just Bitcoin in, Bitcoin out.
01:10:16.000 They're selling mining hardware, computer equipment.
01:10:19.000 And so I think the investigation is over.
01:10:22.000 Six months goes by, and I get a phone call, and they're like, the government raided the data center, and they took everything.
01:10:27.000 And I'm like, what?
01:10:28.000 So Joby will be on the show on Monday.
01:10:32.000 Monday.
01:10:33.000 It'll be good, him.
01:10:34.000 He's a really friendly guy, and I've sort of stayed in touch with him.
01:10:34.000 I like him a lot.
01:10:37.000 He's been on a house arrest for like I don't know, six or 11 years.
01:10:41.000 He's not done anything wrong.
01:10:42.000 They're having to sort of like maneuver laws to go, well, it's a Ponzi scheme.
01:10:46.000 All he did was much too quickly work out that mining Bitcoin was going to make a lot of money.
01:10:51.000 He had the fastest growing tech company or was a participant in one of the fastest growing tech companies, like literally Facebook, Amazon levels of growth.
01:10:59.000 And then the FBI came and nicked all of his equipment and put him on house arrest.
01:11:03.000 And he's on house arrest literally right now.
01:11:05.000 I hope he's watching this because you can support Joby and he's coming.
01:11:08.000 He's got trial soon.
01:11:09.000 They're messing with him in all sorts of crazy ways.
01:11:11.000 And I think, really, my opinion.
01:11:13.000 Two cents, or two, what is it called when it's a little bit of a Bitcoin?
01:11:17.000 Two bib squeaks, two millipops, two satoshis.
01:11:22.000 Satoshis, my two, thank you.
01:11:24.000 My two satoshis worth.
01:11:25.000 Oh, I'm really pleased with this.
01:11:27.000 My two satoshis worth is that what it was was they realized that the only way they were going to be able to control digital currencies was by managing, they wouldn't be able to stop them, but they could slow them down long enough to get their ducks in a row, which they've now done.
01:11:42.000 And well, actually, central currencies are good as long as we're in charge of them, which is basically what they're saying.
01:11:46.000 So, Tune in to watch the interview with Javi Weeks, particularly if you're a person who's interested in not only cryptocurrencies, I know they don't like that phrase, but also parallel and adjacent political systems.
01:11:58.000 Thanks, Dave, for cracking on there.
01:12:00.000 Yeah, thank you.
01:12:01.000 Thanks, Jake, as always.
01:12:03.000 Love you, Massey, my brother in Christ.
01:12:06.000 And Joe, come home soon.
01:12:10.000 Get home, Joe.
01:12:11.000 Let's do a campaign to rescue him.
01:12:14.000 All right, peace, goodbye, stay free.