Stay Free - Russel Brand - Banking Meltdown – 2008 Crisis All Over Again? - #090 - Stay Free With Russell Brand

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00:01:47.000 Hello there, you Awakening Wonders.

00:01:48.000 Thanks for joining us on Stay Free with Russell Brand.

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00:02:44.000 Unless, of course, you're worried that we're about to have a global financial collapse.

00:02:49.000 Is the collapse of the Silicon Valley Bank and Signature Bank the inaugure, the impreture of 2008 Part 2?

00:02:56.000 Because you remember how they dealt with...

00:02:59.000 Can't happen again, can it?

00:02:59.000 Surely they learned their lesson.

00:03:01.000 Surely you couldn't get the very same people that were involved in clearing up that mess as the very people that created it.

00:03:07.000 Surely you wouldn't get people to introduce regulation, then reverse that regulation.

00:03:10.000 That would be absolutely crazy.

00:03:12.000 We'll be talking to Ryan Grimm.

00:03:14.000 From the intercept about the banking collapse and where it's likely to lead us all.

00:03:19.000 Then, once we're exclusively on Rumble, we'll be talking about all sorts of crazy stuff from Pfizer and January 6, all sorts of things that you're going to absolutely love.

00:03:29.000 I'll be talking about my appearances on Fox News, meeting Tucker Carlson, all of that stuff in our presentation.

00:03:35.000 Here's the news now, here's the effing news.

00:03:39.000 For a while, shall we just revel in the simplicity of the wonderful world of entertainment?

00:03:44.000 It was the Oscars.

00:03:45.000 Do you care about the Oscars anymore?

00:03:46.000 Do you care?

00:03:47.000 Did you ever care?

00:03:48.000 I think there will always be a bit of me that cares.

00:03:51.000 A little bit.

00:03:52.000 Do you think me not caring about the Oscars is spite and malice?

00:03:52.000 It's nice, isn't it?

00:03:58.000 Because I never got one, or the only time I was near one was when I was giving it to another person.

00:04:03.000 Did you want to give it to them?

00:04:04.000 I wanted to keep that but I thought I can't in good faith keep this Oscar for best short film as I haven't made any short films at all.

00:04:12.000 Lots of short films.

00:04:13.000 Well actually don't you think that those films we make every day where we do our level best to expose hypocrisy and corruption and bring people together in spite of cultural differences are worthy of an Oscar?

00:04:22.000 Well the Academy do not think And that's why I'll be boycotting the Oscars, not that they've noticed.

00:04:28.000 Hugh Grant though, fellow Englishman and wryly intelligent Brit, was at the Oscars and of course he's... You can see that what's happened to Hugh Grant is he's stopped caring about things like this.

00:04:39.000 He has become weary, hasn't he?

00:04:40.000 Yeah, he's sort of, I'd say it's like Neo.

00:04:43.000 He's sort of woken up and he finds himself still at the Oscars, obligated, I imagine, to attend due to his commitments to certain projects that he's attached to and starring in.

00:04:52.000 But while there he's thinking, oh, don't make me do this.

00:04:54.000 And that's really plain when you see him talking to this attractive journalist.

00:04:57.000 Have a look.

00:04:58.000 What are you most excited to see tonight?

00:05:02.000 Yeah, well, I know that you probably watched a few of The spirit of the chat, has he?

00:05:02.000 To see?

00:05:08.000 Sorry, he's become a curmudgeon, hasn't he?

00:05:14.000 He doesn't even accept the premise.

00:05:15.000 The movies, are you excited to see anybody win?

00:05:18.000 Do you have your hopes up for anyone?

00:05:24.000 Are they up, the old hopes?

00:05:26.000 Down or normal?

00:05:27.000 You can just see that Hugh Grant is not connected to this scenario at all.

00:05:33.000 Not, no one in particular.

00:05:37.000 I don't care about the Oscars.

00:05:37.000 I don't care.

00:05:39.000 I've woken up in the bubble.

00:05:40.000 What are you wearing tonight then?

00:05:42.000 Just my suit.

00:05:43.000 Your suit?

00:05:44.000 Who made your suit?

00:05:45.000 You didn't make it.

00:05:46.000 I can't remember.

00:05:47.000 My tailor.

00:05:47.000 That's okay.

00:05:49.000 Shout out to the tailor.

00:05:51.000 So tell me, what does it feel like to be in Glass Onion?

00:05:54.000 It was such an amazing time.

00:05:56.000 What does it feel like?

00:05:57.000 Because what could you possibly say in response to the question?

00:05:59.000 What does it feel like?

00:06:00.000 While you're being in Glass Onion, it feels like, wow man, I'm in Glass Onion.

00:06:04.000 I'm enjoying myself.

00:06:05.000 It's amazing because she's gone from, how do you feel about what you're about to see?

00:06:09.000 And he's not giving her anything.

00:06:10.000 And then she's gone straight to, what are you wearing?

00:06:12.000 Which is obviously a standard question at these award ceremonies.

00:06:15.000 It's kind of amazing that that's the second or often first question at most award ceremonies.

00:06:20.000 What are you wearing?

00:06:21.000 Do some promotion please!

00:06:23.000 It's because it's pageantry I suppose.

00:06:25.000 People talk about nihilism and materialism and the meaninglessness of our contemporary culture predicated as it is on consumerism and commodification but we still intuitively reach for meaning and purpose and some There's a sort of set of signals that indicate to us that life is not just an empty, occasionally stirred morass of nothingness.

00:06:46.000 And the Oscars, like, they were setting up for Oscars when we were recently in Los Angeles.

00:06:49.000 That's right.

00:06:50.000 They shut down all of Hollywood Boulevard.

00:06:51.000 There's scaffold being erected.

00:06:53.000 There are billboards slung up.

00:06:55.000 And, of course, we're all aware of this, aren't we?

00:06:56.000 We're telling you nothing new.

00:06:58.000 There's a financial crisis apparently being precipitated.

00:07:02.000 There's a geopolitical disaster already happening for the people of Ukraine, Elsewhere, a slow creep towards war with China.

00:07:09.000 The conditions of the pandemic being lived out, explored.

00:07:13.000 Is it leading to more centralisation of authority?

00:07:16.000 Are we being communicated to correctly and openly around that and a whole host of subjects?

00:07:20.000 Are we being bludgeoned with lies?

00:07:22.000 And obviously, Hugh Grant, who I know a little bit, not very well, but he's a very intelligent person who's having to answer questions about his clothes.

00:07:31.000 And not to discredit the other person, she's just doing what her job is.

00:07:35.000 Isn't it like, don't you think, tell me in the comments in the chat if you feel the same whether you're watching this on YouTube or if you're watching this with us now on Rumbles or our membership platform Locals.

00:07:44.000 Do you find it harder and harder to participate?

00:07:46.000 Like, when I see stuff like this I'm like, oh god is this still going on?

00:07:50.000 And of course there was a time where I craved it, like I really wanted to be involved in that.

00:07:50.000 Is this still happening?

00:07:54.000 I remember standing backstage, there I am, look, without a beard.

00:07:58.000 Of course one of our mates says that when I don't have a beard I look like when Darth Vader takes his helmet off.

00:08:02.000 Like, standing there backstage and seeing all their moscas lined up together. 1.00

00:08:06.000 It's weird to see a coveted item abundant.

00:08:09.000 That's the idea that motivates Andy Warhol, isn't it?

00:08:11.000 If you endlessly repeat Marilyn Monroe or Elvis, you recognise everything has become commodity.

00:08:16.000 Or if you reify a can of soup, you sort of say, oh, everything could be celebrated as a work of art.

00:08:23.000 And for me now, I don't know about you guys, I start to feel like, is this still happening?

00:08:27.000 I mean, I do care about football though, so I am still engaged in cultural ephemera.

00:08:30.000 And I know Brilliant films are still made and beautiful artifacts emerge continually from the culture.

00:08:35.000 But I do feel that Terence McKenna's edict, the culture is not your friend, holds true. 0.98

00:08:40.000 That primarily these festivals, these ceremonies serve as a kind of way of regalvanizing your interest in stuff that you sort of shouldn't really care about.

00:08:51.000 Yeah, because it always does come back to the same thing.

00:08:53.000 What are you wearing?

00:08:55.000 Like it's a kind of reset of Dumbness.

00:08:58.000 As you are aware, we are all dying.

00:09:00.000 What are you wearing while you are dying right now?

00:09:04.000 At the end of it, Hugh Grant, like, so if you could see he's sort of got this almost ennui and despair.

00:09:10.000 If you want to click over and watch us on Rumble right now you really ought because the second half of this we're talking about January 6th and the media's misrepresentation of it and the sort of Tucker Carlson controversy And how January 6th is being used.

00:09:20.000 We'll also be talking about some of Pfizer's new post-pandemic deals and what the conditions and potential mendacity around those things are.

00:09:28.000 Of course, on YouTube, we are curtailed by guidelines, which I'm sure they put in place for the best of reasons.

00:09:33.000 But over on Rumble, we are free to speak as we would, as our consciences would have us.

00:09:38.000 Let's see how Hugh Grant wraps up this debacle.

00:09:42.000 I really loved it.

00:09:43.000 I love a thriller.

00:09:44.000 How fun is it to shoot something like that?

00:09:46.000 Well, I'm barely in it.

00:09:47.000 I'm in it for about three seconds.

00:09:49.000 Yeah, but still you showed up and you had fun, right?

00:09:52.000 Uh, almost.

00:09:53.000 Okay.

00:09:55.000 Oh God, I mean, like he has, he's actually unable to participate in this.

00:10:00.000 I would say if I was working with or for Hugh Grant, I'd say, Hugh, you're not going to the Oscars no more.

00:10:06.000 You don't like it.

00:10:07.000 You shouldn't be forced to go.

00:10:08.000 I don't even think you like being in Glass Onion very much.

00:10:10.000 You're actually not doing us any favours here.

00:10:12.000 Although he is really good in films these days.

00:10:15.000 He's really good in that one with Wishaw.

00:10:17.000 He's really good in Paddington.

00:10:19.000 I think he's a brilliant actor but he doesn't like the Oscars.

00:10:22.000 That's how I used to feel at those Oscars.

00:10:24.000 And things like that only went once.

00:10:25.000 That's how I used to feel about those things, sort of bewildered and overwhelmed.

00:10:29.000 And like, this isn't... Is this right?

00:10:31.000 Is this life?

00:10:32.000 Is this what's happening?

00:10:33.000 Remember, even when it was things like the British Comedy Awards, you'd say, you don't know how to organise your face when you're sat on a table waiting for a... And the nominees for Best New Comedian, Russell Brand, some other people.

00:10:44.000 I won it.

00:10:45.000 Some other people.

00:10:46.000 I don't know what to do with my face, like, during it.

00:10:50.000 I've never been comfortable with that stuff, but let's just see that despair on Hugh Grant's face before clicking over into a financial crisis that might be a repeat of 2008 in which, of course, quantitative easing was introduced to bail out the big banks, even though Biden's saying taxpayer money won't be used.

00:11:03.000 Is that true?

00:11:04.000 Ultimately, let's see.

00:11:05.000 But first, let's look at Hugh Grant experiencing despair at the Oscars.

00:11:10.000 OK.

00:11:11.000 Well, thank you so much.

00:11:12.000 It was nice to talk to you.

00:11:14.000 Yeah.

00:11:14.000 Back to you, guys.

00:11:14.000 All right.

00:11:15.000 That bit at the end is my favourite bit.

00:11:19.000 OK.

00:11:19.000 Yeah.

00:11:21.000 I mean, he is OK, isn't he?

00:11:21.000 I hope he's all right.

00:11:23.000 He's having a career renaissance.

00:11:24.000 He's brilliant in film, so that's good news in some regard, I suppose.

00:11:24.000 Oh, yeah.

00:11:28.000 Now, let's have a look at the collapse of the Silicon Valley Bank.

00:11:32.000 The Silicon Valley Bank has collapsed.

00:11:33.000 There's a number of reasons for this, like there's been a 4.5% increase in interest rates, so bonds that they bought are now less valuable and stuff like that.

00:11:42.000 You know, Gareth and I, you may not know this, we're not financial experts, but sadly, neither are the people that are organising these bailouts.

00:11:48.000 They're usually lobbyists.

00:11:50.000 This story shows you everything you need to know about the symbiosis between Wall Street and Washington.

00:11:56.000 It tells you a lot about the lobbying industry.

00:11:58.000 It tells you a lot about the lack of lessons learned from 2008.

00:12:01.000 It tells you a lot about how convergent interests around both the Republican Party and the Democrat Party ultimately align when it comes to the big issues like finances.

00:12:10.000 And it shows you how the media will always lean into partisanship.

00:12:14.000 Do you think I've done the story justice there, mate?

00:12:15.000 You're right.

00:12:15.000 I mean, the kind of reporting of it, whether you look at the right or the left, you know, from the right, it's focusing on like woke issues, which I don't think has anything to do with deregulation of the banking industry.

00:12:26.000 From the left, it's all about blaming Trump when actually what we know is the kind of deregulation of the regulations that were meant to be put up in 2008 to protect ordinary Americans were then, you know, watered down in 2018.

00:12:39.000 Only for medium-sized banks.

00:12:41.000 Correct.

00:12:41.000 Medium-sized banks was never the problem.

00:12:43.000 Stadium banks, they were called.

00:12:45.000 They were alright.

00:12:46.000 It's those two big banks.

00:12:47.000 The two big to fail banks that did fail, they were bad.

00:12:50.000 But medium-sized banks that you make stadiums with, they need to be deregulated.

00:12:54.000 And as a result of lobbying, they were.

00:12:56.000 And now, look what's happening.

00:12:57.000 Shall we have a look at the mainstream media reports on this story?

00:12:59.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:13:00.000 We'll see how, you know, biased they are.

00:13:03.000 Ultimately, what we always talk about is how reductive the mainstream media are.

00:13:06.000 And this is exactly what they do here.

00:13:08.000 It's the Republicans' fault because, of course, it's, I think, MSNBC's.

00:13:11.000 We've met a man who I believe is called Chris Hayes.

00:13:14.000 I get that impression.

00:13:15.000 I don't know why.

00:13:15.000 I mean, I'm an investigative journalist.

00:13:17.000 See if you pick up on it.

00:13:19.000 Five years ago, when Republicans were last in control of the House of Representatives, they used the opportunity to roll back banking regulations put into place after the 2008 financial crisis.

00:13:31.000 So it's Donald Trump's fault.

00:13:32.000 There he is, being jostled by sort of, I don't know, Congress folk, lobbyists, bankers, whoever the hell those people are.

00:13:38.000 But let's have a look at the banking crisis timeline.

00:13:41.000 Let's see how this unfolded.

00:13:42.000 Check it out.

00:13:43.000 Let's have a look at that on the screen now.

00:13:44.000 Thank you.

00:13:45.000 Now, in 2010, the Dodd-Frank Act was brought in, but I need that full screen to read it, please, if you don't mind.

00:13:51.000 The Dodd-Frank Act brought in by the Congressmen Barney Frank and Senator Chris Dodd was designed to tighten banking regulations to prevent another 2008 crash.

00:14:00.000 It was supposed to prevent risky investments.

00:14:02.000 Note the names Barney Frank and Chris Dodd.

00:14:05.000 Try and remember them just for a few seconds.

00:14:07.000 In 2015, Greg Becker, Silicon Valley Bank's president, submitted a statement to a Senate panel pushing legislators to exempt more banks Including his own from new regulations.

00:14:18.000 I'm here mostly on behalf of banks in general, but also the bank that I work at passed in the wake of the 2008 financial crisis.

00:14:26.000 A couple of months later, SVB added the former Obama Treasury Department official Mary Miller to its board.

00:14:32.000 Noting she had previously helped oversee financial regulatory reforms.

00:14:36.000 So that whole revolving door idea that many of us think is significant when it comes to politics and finance is exemplified here in this story.

00:14:45.000 In 2015, Democrat Congressman Barney Frank.

00:14:48.000 Oh, I remember Barney Frank!

00:14:49.000 What, from the Dodd-Frank Act a second ago?

00:14:52.000 That's him, that's him.

00:14:53.000 Oh, he's cropped up again!

00:14:54.000 Well, he knows the most about regulation, Russ.

00:14:56.000 Oddly, he was pushed to ease banking regulations after joining the Signature Bank board.

00:15:01.000 I mean, it's another one of those stories that shows you that how you intuitively think these things work is exactly how these things work.

00:15:08.000 Over at Signature Bank or SVB or whatever bank they go, I know how to get past some of these regulations.

00:15:13.000 Why don't we get hold of one of the Congress people that drafted the bill and get them to lobby on our behalf and say, you know, I know I drew up this regulation, but I was in a... I was much too regulatory that day.

00:15:26.000 I was really regulate... I was regulating everything.

00:15:28.000 I wouldn't let the dog out of the house.

00:15:30.000 I told my wife, put a longer skirt on.

00:15:32.000 I regulated the hell out of my kids.

00:15:34.000 And do you know what?

00:15:35.000 I thought, I wish I could turn back the clock.

00:15:37.000 Thankfully, I can.

00:15:38.000 Let's deregulate stadium banks or medium-sized banks.

00:15:41.000 These kind of banks that are failing right now.

00:15:43.000 That's old Barney Frank for you.

00:15:44.000 Barney Frank, apparently available for a million dollars.

00:15:47.000 That's an allegation.

00:15:47.000 I can't prove that.

00:15:49.000 No, you can prove that.

00:15:50.000 Oh, I can prove that, yeah.

00:15:51.000 He was paid a million dollars.

00:15:53.000 He got paid a million dollars.

00:15:54.000 Strike that from the record.

00:15:55.000 In 2018, the Trump administration, remember, bipartisan, everyone's involved, began to repeal the act.

00:16:00.000 Regulations for smaller banks were removed and lower capital for loans were required.

00:16:04.000 So you just saw the mainstream news saying, oh, it's Trump.

00:16:06.000 We saw him.

00:16:07.000 Just like Trump to be John.

00:16:08.000 Yes, 50 Republicans and 17 Democrats.

00:16:10.000 Then in 2021, the Biden administration came in, the regulations Trump had changed remained

00:16:14.000 the same.

00:16:16.000 We beat Pharma this year, all of the excitement, all of the Sturm und Drang.

00:16:20.000 Yeah, 50 Republicans and 17 Democrats.

00:16:23.000 So you know, it was a bipartisan effort to deregulate what we were told was put in place

00:16:28.000 to protect ordinary Americans.

00:16:30.000 And now, not Obama, but Biden himself is saying that taxpayers won't be footing the bill.

00:16:36.000 But a lot of financial experts are saying that that's not strictly true.

00:16:39.000 That's strictly true, that tangentially they ultimately will be the final point on our

00:16:43.000 little financial timeline.

00:16:44.000 And why don't you take a screenshot of this and you can do your own TV show to your pals.

00:16:49.000 Joe Biden has reassured Americans that, oh yeah, Gal just did that bit.

00:16:53.000 So let's check it out.

00:16:54.000 Let's have a look at Joe Biden now, looking all presidential and stuff.

00:16:58.000 Oh yeah, look, here's a bunch of people that voted for both Trump and Obama.

00:17:00.000 We know about all that kind of stuff, don't we?

00:17:01.000 So ultimately, it's the same sort of system, same sort of results.

00:17:04.000 And man, you know, even if you're a person that dislikes right-wing politics for your own reasons, or you dislike left-wing politics for your own reasons, you have to acknowledge That there's a symbiosis and a kind of flow between these administrations that Obama's actions in 2008 contributed to the election of Trump because of the alliance for the same financial interests that ultimately benefit whoever is in government.

00:17:29.000 Here's Biden trying to make it clear that we will not see 2008 part two and that taxpayers won't foot the bill but some experts even as this story breaks are saying that's Simply not true.

00:17:38.000 And we'll tell you a little more about that after we watch the man himself.

00:17:41.000 Let's go.

00:17:42.000 I want to briefly speak about what's happening in Silicon Valley Bank and Signature Bank.

00:17:47.000 Today, thanks to the quick action of my administration over the past few days.

00:17:50.000 It's been so quick.

00:17:53.000 Lightning!

00:17:54.000 Whoosh!

00:17:55.000 There it goes.

00:17:56.000 Yeah.

00:17:56.000 Making quick actions.

00:17:57.000 Let's see what these quick actions are.

00:17:58.000 Americans can have confidence that the banking system is safe.

00:18:03.000 Your deposits will be there when you need them.

00:18:06.000 No losses, and this is an important point, no losses will be borne by the taxpayers.

00:18:11.000 Let me repeat that.

00:18:12.000 No losses will be borne by the taxpayers.

00:18:15.000 Now, what I take that to mean, and let me know in the chat in the comments if you think this means I've become cynical and jaded.

00:18:21.000 What I reckon that means is they now recognise that people don't like bailing out big banks after 2008, so you have to explicitly say we won't be doing that.

00:18:30.000 But he uses the language, the nomenclature, taxpayer.

00:18:34.000 So you won't be, via an over-observable tax, be foot in the bill.

00:18:39.000 But Gail, do you want to read what them experts are saying?

00:18:41.000 Because it seems like there are tangential, indirect ways through banking fees that will likely end up with ordinary Americans that mean that you will ultimately foot the bill, simply because the bill's too big to be paid for by this fund that they're saying is going to pay it.

00:18:53.000 Yeah, so finance officials have said that covering depositor losses from the bank failures will be met in part by the deposit insurance fund held by the FDIC, the government corporation that supplies deposit insurance to depositors in U.S.

00:19:05.000 commercial banks and savings banks.

00:19:07.000 Susan Streeter, though, who is head of money and markets at Hargreaves Lansdowne, said the wider banking system will bear the brunt of the bailout of banking customers.

00:19:16.000 Yeah, because you know, I've noticed that there's not a tendency to pass on costs.

00:19:19.000 the deposit insurance fund. If that happens it will get harder to argue that the non-bailout bailout

00:19:25.000 will not ultimately fall on US taxpayers. Yeah because you know I've noticed that there's not

00:19:30.000 a tendency to pass on costs. Like for example during this energy crisis you'll have noticed

00:19:34.000 that your energy bills stayed consistently low throughout it and energy companies profits

00:19:39.000 they didn't increase either. Oh no what actually happened was is their profits radically increased

00:19:45.000 and your bills went up so that's extraordinary. Let's have a look at what...

00:19:49.000 What happened?

00:19:49.000 This is a weird thing.

00:19:50.000 They've been printing money.

00:19:52.000 Some of this is about inflation, the recent increase in inflation.

00:19:55.000 And I'll be honest with you, I don't know much about finance and stuff.

00:19:58.000 I'm just trying to learn along with you.

00:19:59.000 And in a minute, we've got a guest on the show, Ryan Grimm, who's going to teach us a whole lot more about this subversive, sly banker bailout on the lowdown.

00:20:07.000 But have a look at this graph.

00:20:08.000 Look at this.

00:20:10.000 In 2020, look at that sharp increase of the number of US dollars in circulation.

00:20:13.000 And if you want to amuse yourself for a moment, you'll note that it's like a phallus suddenly emerging.

00:20:18.000 Like, if that was in a physical landscape, that, if you were like, you know, you're walking along, it's 1970, 80, 90, it's increasing a bit there, 2000, even 2010 and around the sharp increases of cash in circulation around the financial crisis.

00:20:30.000 Nothing compared to this 2020 sharp incline like that.

00:20:34.000 Don't you feel that that's going to have some fundamental economic repercussions?

00:20:39.000 I mean, I'm not an economist, but I know that when you see something like that on a graph, it's not good news, is it?

00:20:43.000 No, I also worry, you know, there was obviously a lot of talk about how in the Obama years, Wall Street really went for Obama.

00:20:52.000 You know, they put a lot of money into Obama's campaign.

00:20:54.000 They liked him.

00:20:55.000 The same has happened with Biden.

00:20:57.000 It was with the Republicans between those two.

00:20:57.000 They like him.

00:21:00.000 But I just think any, you know, any government that's in power who's taking so much money from the financial industry and Wall Street, are they ultimately going to punish the banks in the way that Biden's talking about?

00:21:10.000 Let me know in the chat and the comments.

00:21:12.000 If your funding comes from the banks, how likely are you to punish the banks?

00:21:18.000 Do you think there's a relationship between the way that the Democrat Party is funded and the way that the Democrat Party governs?

00:21:23.000 Let me know in the chat.

00:21:24.000 Let me know in the comments.

00:21:25.000 We'll read those out in a minute.

00:21:26.000 If you're watching this on YouTube, Join us on Rumble as soon as you can.

00:21:30.000 We're going to give you a great conversation right now.

00:21:32.000 I hope it's great.

00:21:32.000 I mean, I'm going to do my level best with someone from The Intercept.

00:21:35.000 And remember, the back half of this show, where we're talking about January the 6th and some of the peculiarities around this reporting and the way it's being utilized to introduce legislation and different types of regulation, will be discussed in the back half of this show tonight, as well as us looking at Pfizer's brilliant new, not at all heartbreaking, potentially evil scheme to keep those profits up now that the pandemic... Is it OK to say that the pandemic Careful.

00:21:59.000 Steady, baby! 0.96

00:22:00.000 Steady! 0.66

00:22:02.000 Now, an actual journalist from the reputable organisation The Intercept, writer of Bad News on Substack and host of CounterPoints.

00:22:10.000 Or is that on Breaking Point?

00:22:10.000 It certainly is.

00:22:11.000 I love this guy.

00:22:12.000 This is Ryan Grimm.

00:22:13.000 Welcome to the show, Ryan.

00:22:14.000 Hello, thanks for coming, mate.

00:22:16.000 Yeah, thanks for having me here.

00:22:18.000 Why don't you get yourself some earpods, mate?

00:22:20.000 Them type of headphones, people don't wear them no more.

00:22:23.000 What are you, from the old days?

00:22:26.000 I can't lose these because they're just stuck right in here.

00:22:28.000 They're always going to be here.

00:22:30.000 Ryan, it's not my business to ensure that you keep up with the mindless consumerism that drives us through life.

00:22:36.000 Now, Ryan, can you please tell me what's going on in this banker crisis?

00:22:40.000 Was you listening to me and Gareth for just then?

00:22:41.000 Do you think we did a good job of it?

00:22:42.000 And what are you going to add to it, please?

00:22:44.000 Yeah, that sounded pretty good.

00:22:46.000 I think what I would add to it is the stick side of it.

00:22:50.000 Like, what does the government need to do to these bankers in order to... because they talk about this moral hazard.

00:22:59.000 And so they say, well, if you bail people out, then they're just going to be reckless and, you know, they're going to keep doing this just the way, you know, they did it in 2008, they did in the 1930s.

00:23:08.000 If there's no penalties, then what's going on?

00:23:10.000 But the question is, are we really going to make the depositors suffer the penalties?

00:23:15.000 I might be fine with that if you're depositors who have millions of dollars and you're in a risky bank like Silicon Valley Bank.

00:23:21.000 But just realistically, from a political perspective, we're always going to make depositors whole.

00:23:26.000 So if we're going to make depositors whole, then thinking through this, how do we, you know, monkey

00:23:33.000 around with this moral hazard? And to me, it would be, not only do you wipe out all the shareholders

00:23:38.000 of Silicon Valley Bank, not only do all the executives get fired, you also do something like

00:23:43.000 bankrupt the executives. So if you say, look, if you run a bank into the ground to the point where it's

00:23:49.000 going to cost taxpayers, and ultimately it's going to be taxpayers. Taxpayers, you know, millions

00:23:56.000 of dollars.

00:23:57.000 We're going to you first before we hit up the rest of society. 0.70

00:24:01.000 Then I think you would have executives who all of a sudden are a lot more cautious About the bets that they're making in the way that they're running the bank.

00:24:09.000 The other thing I would, and we could talk about this too, is this wild text chain among all of these tech founders and funders.

00:24:18.000 Did you see this?

00:24:19.000 This guy talked about there were 200 founders who were in this text chain, who on Thursday started saying, hey, maybe we should all take our money out of Silicon Valley Bank.

00:24:30.000 And if you really were scared that the bank was going to collapse, What you would do is you would go to the bank and you would take your money out.

00:24:39.000 You wouldn't text 200 of your richest friends and suggest, hey, maybe we should all take our money all at the same time out of this bank.

00:24:49.000 That makes absolutely no sense if your goal is self-preservation of your own wealth.

00:24:54.000 If you think the bank's going to collapse, You call the bank, say, here's my wire instructions, get my money out of that bank.

00:25:00.000 What they did is they created a bank run with that text chain.

00:25:04.000 And then you have to ask, why did they do that?

00:25:08.000 Please, speculatively, and I know it's purely speculation, Ryan, why would you do that?

00:25:13.000 Is it because you know that if the bank collapses, you're going to be bailed out and ultimately it's going to be more beneficial than taking the money out in the first place?

00:25:20.000 Yeah, so one of the theories that's going around is that this entire tech economy requires low interest rates and massive amounts of quantitative easing.

00:25:31.000 That chart that you showed, that money flows into asset prices, houses, that's why housing prices are going crazy, rents are going crazy, but really what it funnels is into big tech.

00:25:43.000 Without the quantitative easing the last decade, you don't have this big tech explosion over the last decade.

00:25:49.000 Now that they're starting to turn that spigot down, you're seeing all of these tech companies lay everybody off.

00:25:54.000 You're seeing everything collapse.

00:25:56.000 So the speculation is, what could these tech bros do that would get the Fed's attention?

00:26:02.000 That would say, look, if you keep jacking up interest rates, you're going to blow the economy up.

00:26:07.000 You're going to cause real problems here.

00:26:10.000 And what could they do?

00:26:11.000 Well, they could blow up a tiny little bank.

00:26:17.000 I love this thing.

00:26:26.000 It's my new thing.

00:26:27.000 It's so that I don't have to sort of step over, you know, it can be embarrassing on Zoom calls.

00:26:31.000 So like one of the phrases we've picked up in this space, Ryan, is it's not a bug, it's a feature.

00:26:37.000 That things that sometimes appear like aberrations or anomalies or flaws are actually design features of the system.

00:26:44.000 This is obviously speculative, but it appears that the military-industrial complex requires ongoing military conflict in order to underwrite its model.

00:26:53.000 And what you've just articulately explained to us and to our community is that the big tech model requires quantitative easing and and in order that this is like a sort of warning shot you're saying this is a sort of a dialogue being played potentially I know you're you know you're not Nostradamus or whatever or some sort of soothsayer but but potentially this is part of a kind of dialogue taking place between the state treasury

00:27:18.000 And the banking system that's letting them know that there are ways of precipitating financial disaster unless there's compliance and favourable legislation and regulation.

00:27:27.000 Yeah, nice little economy you've got going here.

00:27:29.000 Shame if there was a bank run and a bunch of contagion that just wiped it out.

00:27:34.000 So yeah, so now the New York Times is reporting just now that the FBI, Department of Justice are going to look into the causes of this meltdown.

00:27:44.000 And the 2018 rollback, the executives who cashed out a bunch of bonuses, that's all going to get looked at.

00:27:51.000 You know, to me, they ought to actually look at that text chain.

00:27:55.000 You got 200 people, you got 200 phone numbers, call those folks in.

00:27:59.000 Maybe it was completely innocent.

00:28:01.000 Ask them, you know, why did you tell your closest 200 friends to take their money out of here?

00:28:08.000 Why didn't you just take your own money out?

00:28:11.000 At the same time, Peter Thiel's, what's it called, his founder's firm, they did a call on that day where they called money in, like on that very day.

00:28:22.000 That required then a bunch of their partners or urged a bunch of their partners to pull money out as well.

00:28:26.000 You say, why did you do this?

00:28:27.000 Just total coincidence?

00:28:29.000 What did this have anything to do with this?

00:28:31.000 I think these are reasonable questions that investigators ought to be asking because the other explanations just don't make a lot of sense.

00:28:40.000 It's extraordinary that you say that.

00:28:41.000 So it's unlikely that the investigation will look into these aspects of the case.

00:28:46.000 What about Biden's public claim, overt, obvious and plain, that the consequences of a failed capitalist venture are bankruptcy?

00:28:55.000 Like you said, the bankers involved are unlikely to face bankruptcy.

00:28:58.000 You said that should be the first step and that the consequences of those actions should be felt.

00:29:03.000 Is this something where the right people will pay the price?

00:29:06.000 Or will this ultimately, as them experts in the Guardian said, ultimately end up being the bill being footed by taxpayers, if not directly through taxation, but likely through bank fees and stuff, simply because there isn't enough money in that fund that they keep banging on about to cover a loss of this scale?

00:29:23.000 If it goes the way it went in 2008, then the bankers will just be fine and they'll move on to other banks and nothing will get clawed back.

00:29:33.000 If you remember, AIG was paying out massive bonuses just months after their collapse that precipitated a global financial crisis.

00:29:44.000 And now the politics have changed.

00:29:47.000 You're seeing a lot more anger about this.

00:29:49.000 And you're going to see, I think because of alternative media, you'll see the mainstream media also being unable to kind of move away from it as quickly as they might otherwise want to.

00:29:58.000 So we are in a slightly different place 15 years later than we were then.

00:30:02.000 And I think no politician wants to be on the side of bailouts.

00:30:06.000 And that's why you're seeing Biden, you know, do all of these semantics and gymnastics to try to say that actually, well, of course, this isn't a bailout.

00:30:14.000 Fascinating.

00:30:15.000 If both parties are pro-deregulation, and that is ultimately the way that it went when there was the opportunity to maintain regulation or decrease it, as has happened, and you see reductive reporting from both sides, i.e.

00:30:29.000 MSNBC, this is all about Trump, without saying, but we could say that the quantity of E's in the decisions made by Obama in 2008, when you have this kind of in systemic environment. How, how, Ryan, will there ever be

00:30:43.000 disruption of these systems?

00:30:45.000 If you have a systemic problem of this nature, how can you alter it without significantly

00:30:49.000 altering the system, please?

00:30:52.000 I don't, I don't know that you can, because you also saw this with the, the train derailment

00:30:59.000 The media ignored it for a very long time until they could find something that they could pin on Trump.

00:31:05.000 They're like, oh, wait, Trump did some deregulatory stuff when he was in office around railroads.

00:31:11.000 Then we had a train disaster.

00:31:13.000 Boom, OK, now we can cover this story.

00:31:16.000 Then you've got other reporters saying, well, wait, the Obama administration also did this stuff.

00:31:22.000 The Biden administration is currently in office, but it feels like without that hook, you know, that the media doesn't know how to get into it.

00:31:30.000 And so now they've discovered this 2018 deregulatory action, which Trump took, which Trump should be criticized for.

00:31:37.000 But the media should note, it takes 60 votes in the Senate to get anything done.

00:31:41.000 They could only do it because they had the willing participation.

00:31:45.000 Of plenty of Democrats.

00:31:46.000 Now, it's also fair to say 50 Republicans is a lot more than 17 Democrats, but in the end, it doesn't matter to people that the law, because the law got passed.

00:31:57.000 That's right, and it seems to continually lead us, Ryan, to the obvious conclusion that neither party can meaningfully intercede when it comes to improving the lives of ordinary people, introducing the type of regulation, legislation, movement, systems, ideas that would alter significantly the lives of most folk.

00:32:18.000 that there's generally a consensus and a willingness within the media to keep the conversation

00:32:23.000 framed in a particular way, within Congress or the Senate to keep the legislation framed

00:32:28.000 in a particular way. So it does seem now, I mean I know we're sort of straying from

00:32:32.000 the territory of your expertise, I mean I'm assuming that we are, but it does seem now

00:32:37.000 that what's required is new political alliances and significant systemic change and neither

00:32:44.000 party is offering that, right? Yeah and for a long time, to me the way that you could

00:32:52.000 most effectively influence politics was by kind of playing inside the Democratic primary,

00:32:59.000 inside the Democratic party in primaries, like the way that say Bernie Sanders challenged

00:33:03.000 Hillary Clinton in 2016, ran again in 2020.

00:33:06.000 and by that way influence the party.

00:33:10.000 But I now think that that opportunity exists in both parties.

00:33:15.000 And I think that, you know, regular people who consider themselves to be either independents or Republicans, but they are independents, but they vote in Republican primaries, you know, have an opportunity to influence the Republican Party too, and say, look, you voted for this.

00:33:30.000 Roll back in 2018.

00:33:32.000 I'm going to support a candidate that didn't do that.

00:33:35.000 None of that is going to work, though, unless you get some type of reform to the way that campaigns are financed.

00:33:40.000 To me, it's got to come from kind of matching funds from the government, because the way the Supreme Court is now, they're not going to let you kind of cap spending or cap the amount of giving.

00:33:51.000 And so all you can do is kind of equalize things.

00:33:54.000 There was a bill that said that there would be a way that you would get a six to one match.

00:34:00.000 If you if you have 50 bucks that actually becomes 300 bucks and that you can give it then to a couple of your

00:34:06.000 candidates of your choosing. So unless you can like match corporations

00:34:10.000 you're never going to match them dollar for dollar. But if you can

00:34:13.000 keep regular people in the game then I think they're going to win because they have the more popular position.

00:34:19.000 Like a corporation needs 10 times the amount of money in order to get its unpopular position across the finish line.

00:34:28.000 The problem now is that they have 20 times, 30 times, 40 times more.

00:34:32.000 If you can get it down to 10 to 1, then at least it's a fair fight.

00:34:35.000 OK, Ryan, that is somewhat promising, although I still prefer a revolution.

00:34:40.000 Ryan, thanks for joining us.

00:34:43.000 Ryan Grimm is a reporter for The Intercept, writer of Bad News on Substack, you can follow him there, and host of CounterPoints.

00:34:49.000 Ryan, thanks so much for joining us, that was a fantastic conversation.

00:34:52.000 Now, we're going to slink Offer YouTube right now for regulatory reasons.

00:34:56.000 The irony.

00:34:57.000 Some spaces need regulation.

00:34:58.000 Some people need, some places need less regulation.

00:35:02.000 Some places need trust, faith, that content creators are speaking honestly and openly.

00:35:07.000 We're not trying to lobby government to be fair though.

00:35:11.000 I am.

00:35:12.000 I'm lobbying for radical change in every conceivable area.

00:35:15.000 So if you're watching us now on YouTube, we're about to slip off exclusively onto Rumble because we're going to be talking about Pfizer's latest sly little move.

00:35:24.000 And I mean, sly, I suppose, is Allegedly!

00:35:27.000 He might not be sly, maybe it's just simple good business.

00:35:29.000 We've got a fantastic story, then we're going to be moving on to January 6th, so if you're watching us anywhere else, join us exclusively on Rumble right now and I'll tell you how you can watch my stand-up special, Brandemic, which is a real ball-breaker, a glorious thing.

00:35:43.000 I'll tell you more about that as well, so join us on Rumble now.

00:35:46.000 Pfizer CEO Albert Baller, heard of that guy?

00:35:48.000 He's not going to like your stand-up special.

00:35:50.000 No he won't!

00:35:52.000 There's a real one in the eye for Albert Baller in there.

00:35:55.000 Now one of the things, this is some bad news, since the end of the pandemic, if indeed it's ended, things ain't been going quite as well for Pfizer because they were dead, by coincidence, By coincidence alone, they did really well.

00:36:08.000 One of the inadvertent side effects of there being that terrible pandemic that ruined your life, ruined your kids' education, locked you up in your home was good.

00:36:16.000 It's not all bad.

00:36:17.000 Pfizer did very well.

00:36:18.000 Sadly, now people aren't gripped by continual perpetual terror locked in their homes.

00:36:23.000 It has had a negative impact on Pfizer stock prices.

00:36:27.000 But the good news is this.

00:36:28.000 Cancer.

00:36:29.000 Cancer is the good news.

00:36:32.000 Cancer is good news.

00:36:33.000 People get cancer.

00:36:35.000 Perhaps because they're stressed.

00:36:36.000 Perhaps because they're eating bad food.

00:36:38.000 Perhaps because they're living spellbound in a terrible illusion.

00:36:41.000 Baller has spotted that and he's found a way.

00:36:43.000 Perhaps because they don't do any exercise.

00:36:46.000 Could that help?

00:36:47.000 What contributed to that?

00:36:49.000 Were you locked in your home lately, unable to do even the merest amount of exercise?

00:36:53.000 The good news is, your cancer is Baller's dollar bills.

00:36:57.000 So Pfizer CEO says it will be able to deliver Segan's cancer therapy at a scale not seen before, with a $43 billion deal.

00:37:03.000 Of course they're going to sell that as old whoop-dee-doo. 1.00

00:37:05.000 We're all going to get access to this new cancer drug.

00:37:07.000 Pfizer CEO Albert Baller said that the pharmaceutical giant will be able to deliver Segan's cancer therapy to the world at a scale that's not been seen before.

00:37:14.000 Well, you've had some practice.

00:37:15.000 delivering medicines at scale.

00:37:17.000 Also for a price that's not been seen before I would imagine.

00:37:19.000 It's gonna be a little bit more pricey.

00:37:21.000 And you'll be taking this cancer medication whether you want it or not.

00:37:25.000 How about that? What about...

00:37:27.000 Hey, what would be a good idea?

00:37:28.000 Why wait till people have got cancer?

00:37:30.000 Get everyone to take it.

00:37:31.000 What if they don't want to take it?

00:37:32.000 Make them take it!

00:37:34.000 That's what I say!

00:37:35.000 Look at you, you've been off YouTube for about a minute.

00:37:38.000 Freedom, baby!

00:37:39.000 This is the sweet sounds of freedom!

00:37:42.000 Glory in here!

00:37:43.000 Glory in the sweet sounds of freedom!

00:37:45.000 Segan is a leading developer of a medicine called antibody drug conjugates, which are designed to directly kill cancer cells and spare healthy ones.

00:37:53.000 Thanks.

00:37:53.000 Baller called ADCs one of the greatest technologies to battle cancer and likened them to mRNA for vaccines.

00:38:00.000 Okay.

00:38:01.000 Well, luckily, there's no problems there.

00:38:03.000 For example, myocarditis, pericarditis, people in their thirties dropping dead.

00:38:07.000 Don't roll your eyes at me!

00:38:09.000 You've been aired!

00:38:10.000 You've been aired by the system!

00:38:12.000 In other news, the Queen... Was she a lizard? 1.00

00:38:14.000 Will we ever know for sure?

00:38:16.000 Let's have a look at Albert Baller cropping up on the mainstream media on a puff piece, presenting like this financial news about how he's going to profit, trying to dress it up like we live to help people who've got cancer.

00:38:26.000 They've probably really taken to task, I would imagine, though.

00:38:29.000 Right, this is the mainstream media.

00:38:31.000 I think they'll be saying, you know how with the vaccine that you profited a hundred billion last year, you know how you're talking about putting it up by 10,000% of what it costs?

00:38:41.000 Well, people aren't being forced to take it, so we've got to raise the price.

00:38:44.000 Would you do the same thing with this life-saving cancer drug?

00:38:47.000 No!

00:38:48.000 It was so unsuccessful for us, these near-mandated medicines, where like 34,000 nurses in New York lost their jobs.

00:38:55.000 We've really learned a lesson.

00:38:57.000 So this is just voluntary.

00:38:59.000 We make drugs now for love.

00:39:00.000 Love drugs.

00:39:01.000 Let's have a look at the mainstream media coaxing Albert Baller to near-ejaculation over his profiteering from cancer.

00:39:09.000 Albert Bourla, the CEO of Pfizer, joins us now.

00:39:11.000 Albert, great to see you this morning.

00:39:13.000 It's like as if she's meeting George Clooney, isn't it?

00:39:17.000 Or like Matthew McConaughey.

00:39:18.000 It's like, Albert, look at him!

00:39:20.000 She's more enthusiastic than Hugh Grant at the Oscars.

00:39:23.000 I'd like Hugh Grant to interview.

00:39:25.000 Yeah.

00:39:26.000 OK, Albert, so it seems I've got to ask you some questions. 1.00

00:39:29.000 Where have you got all this money from, you bastard? 1.00

00:39:31.000 Are you going to give people any of their money back, you swine? 1.00

00:39:35.000 That's what you want. 0.98

00:39:36.000 Hugh Grant on the bloody news.

00:39:37.000 There's not this darling, grinning, innocent, lovely woman who's obviously an expression of the limitless light of the Lord trying to do her best in the dog-eat-dog world of CNBC.

00:39:50.000 Uh-oh, I pressed the wrong button, guys!

00:39:51.000 Albert Bourla, the CEO of Pfizer, joins us now.

00:39:54.000 Albert, great to see you this morning.

00:39:55.000 $43 billion, a huge price tag.

00:39:58.000 Tell us why CGen is worth it for Pfizer.

00:40:00.000 Because it's prioritising the money, but this is cancer.

00:40:00.000 It's funny, isn't it?

00:40:04.000 Like, who in the world don't know someone that's got cancer or is already dead because of cancer?

00:40:09.000 It's not like a jolly subject.

00:40:11.000 This is where I think, like our chat with Ryan there, when you recognise, oh no, the

00:40:15.000 system is really rigged in order to cause all sorts of problems, you can sort of see

00:40:19.000 it even if you don't understand it.

00:40:21.000 Same with the pharmaceutical industry, I don't think anyone begrudges people making a profit

00:40:25.000 out of entrepreneurship and ingenuity, even though there's certainly an argument that

00:40:29.000 there might be a better way of organising society in reality, of course there are, but

00:40:32.000 even if we just say let's have a slightly more reasonable reform system, the idea that

00:40:39.000 people are grinning from ear to ear about cancer...

00:40:41.000 This is corporatist propaganda.

00:40:43.000 This is when we talk about the mainstream media, when we get criticised for going on Fox or going on and having discussions about how both sides are as bad as each other, when the mainstream or from the left criticise about that and then they get on Albert Baller to basically give him some propaganda, give him a puff piece.

00:41:01.000 They've done it all the way through the pandemic, now they're going to do it about Him making probably massive profits off people having cancer.

00:41:08.000 It's quite incredible.

00:41:09.000 They do the same things with the military industrial complex.

00:41:11.000 And yet, apparently we're the conspiracy theorists.

00:41:13.000 The conspiracy theory is this.

00:41:15.000 Let us plainly state it.

00:41:17.000 That the media operate in conjunction with corporate interests to present an agenda that's favourable to their profits and dominion in a light that is appealing to ordinary people.

00:41:27.000 So that we don't rise up in angry unison against their agenda of corruption and division.

00:41:33.000 That's the conspiracy theory.

00:41:34.000 Let me know in the chat, let me know in the comments if it makes sense to you.

00:41:37.000 But meanwhile, let's see the mainstream media massaging Albert Baller into a few more billions from your cancer.

00:41:47.000 Okay, Meg, very nice to see you.

00:41:48.000 But cancer... Don't flirt! 1.00

00:41:50.000 Don't flirt about cancer money!

00:41:53.000 ...is one of the biggest therapeutic areas, and... You mean the Pope?

00:41:58.000 That's when I met the Pope!

00:42:00.000 Would you like another jab?

00:42:01.000 How about another boost?

00:42:02.000 How about another boost?

00:42:03.000 I'm okay, I've been praying!

00:42:05.000 You'll pray for this one, baby!

00:42:07.000 Right now, one in three people in the world are going to have cancer in their lifetime.

00:42:15.000 We're hoping to make it one in two!

00:42:18.000 Your cancer is our money! 0.97

00:42:20.000 If we keep you anxious and distressed the whole time, look at the line getting higher and higher!

00:42:25.000 Look at the numbers, they're green now!

00:42:27.000 You see that, isn't it, Gal?

00:42:37.000 It's like Pfizer's profits, oh look, they're going down almost at the exact same time that it was near mandated that you have to take their products.

00:42:45.000 And then who's this little guy, Segan?

00:42:47.000 They seem to be on the climb.

00:42:49.000 Why don't we piggyback to a new dimension on their profits?

00:42:52.000 With the banking crisis we're told all of this financial industry is really complicated and we won't understand it and that's why quantitative easing we had to do it and that's why you had to foot the bill for all of it but actually you look at that graph and it's pretty simple Pfizer's profits are going right down because people don't want to take the vaccine anymore so we need to get this cancer drug which their profits are going right up And what about the argument that you continually made, and I know that David Sirota at The Lever made, that Pfizer are presented as this sort of bunch of geniuses, people getting tattoos and buying jackets with Pfizer on it, but all they'd done was bought up BioNTech, developed the vaccine, using taxpayer money in Germany, and now they're buying up this cancer drug, not with the goal of helping people with cancer get better, but with the goal of increasing profit.

00:43:35.000 Well, the point is, Hopefully it will.

00:43:37.000 Hopefully it will help people with cancer and that's a great thing if it helps people with cancer but if the byproduct of that is that they're charging exorbitant rates for this cancer treatment and people can't afford to get it or are basically for the rest of their lives tied to a drug that they can't afford.

00:43:53.000 And they're monopolizing and managing profits and prices through their practices.

00:43:58.000 I would go so far as to say, and let me know if you agree with this in the chat and the comments, particularly if you're on Locals, if you're a member of Locals, I see your comments first, that you getting better from cancer is an inadvertent side effect of their business practice, not the focus of their business practice.

00:44:13.000 Look at the opioid crisis.

00:44:15.000 They will make decisions that lead Directly to your death, if there's a profit in it.

00:44:20.000 That's just based on the opioid crisis, that comment, and even for me on Rumble, where I'm free.

00:44:24.000 By coincidence, a couple of years ago, dear old Jill Biden cropped up on your TV set saying that cancer was... Look at that, and they're even using the words there, cancer moonshot.

00:44:35.000 Which is a phrase they introduced during the pandemic to say, somehow, maybe, maybe if all the stars align, we'll make a hundred billion dollars from you being locked in your home with a disease with a very low fatality rate that Matt Hancock's text reveal That even Chris Whitty, who was the scientific advisor and leader in our country, he's our version of Fauci.

00:44:59.000 Even that dude was saying, oh, I'm not sure you need to vaccinate a population for something with such a low mortality rate.

00:45:05.000 So the moonshot they're talking about is the moonshot of taking public money and putting it into private hands.

00:45:11.000 And if you, when you run out of pandemic, you better jump aboard that cancer train, baby, because cancer ain't going anywhere as long as you live in a culture that essentially causes you cancer. 0.99

00:45:20.000 Let's have a look at Jill Biden's new initiative to massage cancer policies into the public consciousness. 1.00

00:45:26.000 Check it.

00:45:27.000 Budget that Joe released.

00:45:29.000 He is investing in cancer research and prevention.

00:45:34.000 So nice. And there's someone in a white coat, there's a woman of colour, being all friendly and stuff.

00:45:39.000 And I don't know, man, aren't you tired of this?

00:45:41.000 Don't you want to be told the truth?

00:45:42.000 Aren't you ready for the truth?

00:45:43.000 Aren't you ready for nuanced reporting?

00:45:45.000 Aren't you ready to participate in a truly democratic conversation?

00:45:48.000 Aren't you ready for politicians that represent your interests and stand up to corporate interests?

00:45:52.000 Are you ready? Are you?

00:45:54.000 Because, baby, I'm ready.

00:45:55.000 If you want to be part of our growing community, join us right now on Locals.

00:45:59.000 Do not delay. For the small annual fee, you'll get all of our content, additional ad free content, as well as my

00:46:04.000 stand up special Brandemic, which you will enjoy as I skewer some of these corporate

00:46:08.000 interests.

00:46:09.000 Time now, though, for a little look at the type of alliances that we are trying to cultivate.

00:46:14.000 While we were in your country, America, we met people from, as Gareth said, right, apparently so-called right wing news

00:46:20.000 organisations.

00:46:21.000 Now, the idea of me going on Fox a little while ago, and I asked you guys if you thought I should go on Fox, it would

00:46:26.000 have been unimaginable, inconceivable.

00:46:28.000 And yet I went on Fox. I've got to say, Greg Gutfield, bloody lovely. 0.58

00:46:32.000 Tucker Carlson, I can't see Tucker Carlson's face now without feeling my heart swell with love. 0.91

00:46:37.000 You know, people say, like, oh, Tucker Carlson, like he's a white supremacist, and obviously white supremacy is wrong.

00:46:43.000 I don't feel like Tucker Carlson is a white supremacist.

00:46:46.000 People right now are saying he's reporting on January 6th.

00:46:48.000 He's irresponsible.

00:46:49.000 I feel that people should be able to deal with the facts for themselves.

00:46:52.000 It's possible to go, no, I don't agree with that.

00:46:54.000 You've edited that footage to make it look not as bad.

00:46:56.000 What about that when they're smashing up them windows?

00:46:58.000 You're an adult, right?

00:46:59.000 You can have that conversation.

00:47:00.000 You can decide for yourself whether or not January 6th is being used to amplify regulatory measures.

00:47:05.000 Can you decide that for yourself?

00:47:06.000 Or would you like some corrupt person to come on your TV set and blag you?

00:47:09.000 Let us know in the chat.

00:47:09.000 I don't know.

00:47:09.000 It's up to you.

00:47:11.000 When we went on Tucker, What I was able to do, and one of the things that I was most pleased with, is like, because I've chatted to my mates, they're conventional dems, you know, like Shepard Fairey and that.

00:47:21.000 Yeah.

00:47:21.000 Also, it's kind of possible, like, Tucker can have, he's allowed to have views that are different from yours as well.

00:47:26.000 I think that is the point.

00:47:27.000 It's allowed!

00:47:28.000 That's called democracy, isn't it?

00:47:29.000 I mean, one of the things that we kept pushing when we were on these conversations with, like, Ben Shapiro, who I actually think he's a good guy.

00:47:36.000 Like, he's got a different perspective than me, but I think he's acting in good faith.

00:47:40.000 This is what I believe, and I think this might be the secret.

00:47:43.000 This might be the main thing we can offer together.

00:47:44.000 Let me know in the chat and the comments if you agree.

00:47:47.000 I said to Ben, would you stand on a platform with people from Black Lives Matter, with people like trans rights activists, the people that on your show you continually are in adversity with, Would you stand on a platform with them to confront centralised power?

00:48:01.000 He said, yes, of course.

00:48:02.000 I said to Tucker Carlson, I'm not at ease with some of the stuff you said about homeless people because I feel like that's condemning the most vulnerable people in society.

00:48:11.000 And Tucker Carlson's response was brilliant.

00:48:13.000 So have a look at this.

00:48:14.000 You're going to love this.

00:48:15.000 This is our conversations with Tucker, with Greg, and my humble attempt to try to create new conversations that prevent us just being entrenched in ossified oppositional positions that won't allow us ever to advance.

00:48:27.000 No, here's the effing news.

00:48:27.000 Here's the news.

00:48:29.000 Thank you for choosing Fox News.

00:48:31.000 News to do. 1.00

00:48:32.000 No, here's the fucking news. 0.99

00:48:35.000 I went on Tucker Carlson and Greg Gutfield's Fox News show, leading the neoliberal establishment to attack me for being 0.99

00:48:43.000 a right-wing conspiracy theorist.

00:48:44.000 But is it necessary to have new conversations?

00:48:47.000 And who is it that's interested in censorship now?

00:48:49.000 Is it the left or is it the right?

00:48:53.000 The controversy was stirred up by my appearance on shows like Tucker Carlson, Greg Gutfield,

00:48:57.000 I spoke to Ben Shapiro, also numerous right-wing commentators.

00:49:02.000 You'll remember if you're my age that right-wing just used to be one of the things that a person could be and wasn't automatically associated with things like Fascism and racism and all the ideas I think fundamentally we're agreed are bad ideas wherever we stand politically.

00:49:18.000 So what is the agenda of the neoliberal establishment media?

00:49:21.000 What do they want spoken about?

00:49:23.000 What do they not want spoken about?

00:49:24.000 Because let me tell you up front, What I learned from my conversations with figures from the conservative right, let's call them, is that there is a new willingness to form new alliances in order to be able to attack centralized establishment authoritarian power, i.e.

00:49:42.000 explicitly people that are conservative and right-wing are willing to have a truce with and alliances with people that are really progressive.

00:49:50.000 They are in fact willing To accept that the only way forward for us is to have more democratic power and autonomy in our communities and that the price for having autonomy and authority in your own community, and I mean power that's achieved democratically, is to allow other people to have their own power and authority in their own communities.

00:50:10.000 However, Centralised power wants, of course, a centralised, authoritative, institutionalised power to dictate what is possible and benefits from ongoing cultural conflagration.

00:50:22.000 The reason I go on these various shows is in order to have conversations like this because I believe change is possible.

00:50:28.000 And before I show you these clips, bear in mind that just a few short years ago, I did this at Fox News.

00:50:34.000 This is private property.

00:50:35.000 This bit here?

00:50:36.000 Yes.

00:50:37.000 Whose property is it?

00:50:38.000 The building.

00:50:39.000 Who's the building belong to?

00:50:40.000 It doesn't matter.

00:50:41.000 No, it does matter.

00:50:43.000 I'll just say it then.

00:50:43.000 It doesn't matter.

00:50:44.000 You want to get arrested?

00:50:45.000 We were booked on to Sean Hannity's show.

00:50:48.000 Okay.

00:50:50.000 So, here are some of the moments from the conversations I had and I want you to ask yourself these questions and let me know in the chat and comments what you think.

00:50:57.000 I've got a wig outside.

00:50:58.000 Why?

00:50:59.000 Because that's what we want you to do.

00:51:00.000 So here are some of the moments from the conversations I had and I want you to ask yourself these

00:51:04.000 questions and let me know in the chat and comments what you think.

00:51:07.000 Do these conversations improve the chances of us forming new power structures and new

00:51:11.000 systems?

00:51:12.000 Who is it that seems to be benefiting from the ongoing culture war? 0.77

00:51:16.000 And let me know in the chat and the comments, because I'm interested in what you think, and I believe you can handle nuanced thinking.

00:51:21.000 Let's have a look, first of all, at my appearance on Tucker Carlson on Fox News.

00:51:25.000 In this conversation, both Tucker Carlson and I came to it knowing that we would disagree, presumably, about a lot of issues.

00:51:32.000 That I, broadly speaking, belong to what you might call the cultural left.

00:51:35.000 We were surprised in fact about how many things we agreed upon, I suppose because we both agree with individual and community freedom.

00:51:44.000 There were moments where I gently and respectfully confronted Tucker Carlson around some of the issues where I explicitly disagree with him.

00:51:52.000 For example the way he's spoken about homelessness in the past, perhaps identity issues, issues of sexuality, and I was surprised in fact about how Little Tucker Carlson really cared about regulating the private life of other people.

00:52:05.000 But what I would say is that what inspired me about this conversation is both Tucker Carlson and I are absolutely disenchanted with establishment power, whether it's on the left or the right, that neither of those terms mean anything anymore, that authority and government power has been co-opted by financial interests to such a degree that no one is voting for anything meaningful anymore.

00:52:26.000 Have a look.

00:52:27.000 These are the facts I was going to tell you about, if I may.

00:52:30.000 I hope you will!

00:52:31.000 I certainly shall do my best.

00:52:33.000 I wanted to do it down the barrel.

00:52:35.000 Did you see that?

00:52:36.000 Did you see the presumptiveness of me there, Tucker?

00:52:39.000 To turn straight ahead for my single.

00:52:41.000 A single that frankly wasn't there.

00:52:43.000 Because this is Tucker Carlson today.

00:52:45.000 Let's get a nice little shot of Mr. Brand.

00:52:50.000 Look, he directs from the floor.

00:52:50.000 Thank you.

00:52:55.000 Hello, America.

00:52:57.000 In the world of energy, you know energy, that we require to do stuff, to move things about, to warm our homes, at least 100 members of Congress own fossil fuel stocks, of which 59 are Republicans and 41 are Democrats.

00:53:09.000 Oh look, the Republicans are a bit worse.

00:53:11.000 Of the $263 million of the pharmaceutical industry spent on lobbying in 2021, it gave 61% to the Democrat Party and 39% to the Republicans.

00:53:11.000 Pharma.

00:53:17.000 Oh no, the Democrat Party is a bit worse.

00:53:22.000 If you've seen any of the criticism in the neoliberal media, you might think, well, what was it about?

00:53:26.000 Because these are not right-wing talking points.

00:53:28.000 and 39% to the Democrats. 0.76

00:53:30.000 Oh no, look, the Republicans are a bit worse.

00:53:32.000 If you've seen any of the criticism in the neoliberal media, you might think, well, what was it about?

00:53:37.000 Because these are not right-wing talking points.

00:53:39.000 This is anti-establishment, anti-authoritarian, anti-financial corruption rhetoric

00:53:44.000 that everyone should be interested in.

00:53:45.000 So it makes me think that the voices that are attacking me are, whether unconsciously or not,

00:53:51.000 supporting establishment power.

00:53:53.000 Let me know in the comments, let me know in the chat.

00:53:54.000 Let's see what's coming next.

00:53:56.000 Nearly 20% of Congress members, 49 Democrats and 44 Republicans, have been trading shares of companies in industries they are supposed to be overseeing as part of their committee assignment.

00:54:06.000 Each one of these facts indicates a potential solution to the problem that it describes.

00:54:11.000 Don't let members of Congress own stocks at all!

00:54:17.000 Do not accept lobbying money from the pharmaceutical industry.

00:54:17.000 Pharma.

00:54:21.000 It's a health industry.

00:54:23.000 The interest should be, as the Hippocratic Oath declares, to do no harm and, get this, maybe even help people.

00:54:30.000 A lot of my time spent thinking, I wish I could pull that necklace back in front.

00:54:34.000 There's a pendant there and it's gone off to the... Wait a minute.

00:54:36.000 Oh no.

00:54:37.000 It's swung to the right!

00:54:39.000 And if you remove the gargantuan motivation for profit, and I'm not talking about ending trade and profit and all of those kind of extremist arguments, I'm simply saying this is a behemoth, this is corporate gigantism, this is an outgrowth, this is a tumour, this has gone too far, and it is possible to change it.

00:54:57.000 And people that say it's not possible to change it are invested in it staying the same.

00:55:01.000 You will notice that.

00:55:02.000 In defence, military contractors have spent $2.5 billion on lobbying over the past two decades.

00:55:06.000 They split their checks more or less evenly between the Democrat and Republican candidates.

00:55:10.000 Almost as if they've anticipated the possibility that either of those parties could get into power.

00:55:15.000 Oh no!

00:55:16.000 We've spent all our money on the Republican parties!

00:55:18.000 What if the Democrat party get into power?

00:55:20.000 Should we give them some money as well?

00:55:21.000 Oh yeah!

00:55:22.000 That means whoever gets in, our outcomes will be served.

00:55:25.000 That's not right-wing rhetoric, except unless you feel that what right-wing means ultimately is a position that's anti-government and anti-establishment.

00:55:33.000 And I know some of you do.

00:55:34.000 I know that that's exactly what many of you feel.

00:55:36.000 Let me know in the chat and the comments.

00:55:37.000 But what I'm interested in Our systems of organisation that are beneficial to the people that they purport to serve and are accessible to the people that they purport to serve.

00:55:47.000 Do you not think it's possible when you see things like Uber and all of these new tech apps that ultimately aggregate various powers, whether it's a car or a house, centralise it and allow it to be distributed, meaning things are possible now that just didn't used to be possible.

00:56:00.000 Don't you think that could be applied elsewhere to political power?

00:56:03.000 That you could have systems where you vote for how utilities are run, systems where you vote for how resources are spent?

00:56:08.000 Oh no, that would mean you wouldn't need people hundreds of miles away or thousands of miles away, in the case of the United States of America, that are lobbyable, biasable, corruptible, making decisions with your money when they're getting paid from elsewhere.

00:56:21.000 That would be a terrible system.

00:56:23.000 180 Democrats and 149 Republicans joined forces to pass last year's record $839 billion National Defense Authorization Act.

00:56:31.000 The Pentagon spent $14 trillion after 9-11.

00:56:35.000 55% of it went to for-profit defense contractors.

00:56:38.000 Over half Of the 14 trillion spent by the Pentagon went to for-profit defence contractors.

00:56:43.000 That doesn't mean that everything they do at Northrop Grumman, who I think make amazing telescopes, or Lockheed Martin, who I'm sure do incredible stuff, is nefarious.

00:56:50.000 But it does mean it's worthy of investigation, and these are facts that are significant in the way that your country is organised, in the way that your media reports on stories, and the way that all of us live our life.

00:56:58.000 Because, of course, those tax dollars are yours.

00:57:01.000 That's your money that's being described in those enormous figures.

00:57:06.000 Now, of course, at the moment, Tucker Carlson is particularly embroiled in controversy around January 6th and the revelation that his interpretation of those tapes demonstrates that there are questions to be asked around the way the situation was placed.

00:57:20.000 And we're going to do a video on that tomorrow because, believe you me, the Capitol Police are getting some new funding that's pretty interesting.

00:57:27.000 And it's a complicated issue and there are many, many perspectives on it.

00:57:30.000 But you, I'm sure, like me, would agree that to be able to say that kind of stuff on a mainstream channel is helpful and advances the conversation, and is generally, I would say, conciliatory in tone.

00:57:41.000 Elsewhere in the chat, I explicitly say that I believe people should be able to identify however they want, express themselves however they want, as long as they don't hurt anyone else, obvious kind of stuff like that.

00:57:49.000 And I specifically spoke to Tucker around the issue of homelessness.

00:57:52.000 The only thing that I've ever seen, sir, that I would call you up on is when I've seen you talking about homelessness, and I feel that when talking about the subject of destitution and people that live in poverty, that the basis for that conversation should be love, and also for all of the displaced people in the world, that the foundational principle should be love.

00:58:09.000 I'm not claiming that I'm able to maintain that line when something offends me for some cultural or personal reason, but I know that this is what I aspire to.

00:58:17.000 I agree with that, and I...

00:58:21.000 I feel that drug addicts living outside are used as political pawns to destabilize society.

00:58:31.000 I feel like they're not treated on purpose.

00:58:33.000 The mentally ill live outside and die outside and are left to do that because it's useful for the people in power to draw attention away from their own misdeeds. 0.87

00:58:42.000 And I'm angry about it, but I'm not angry at the fentanyl addict.

00:58:46.000 I'm angry at the industry that's grown up around him that doesn't treat any of his needs, that leaves him to die alone, and that becomes rich doing so.

00:58:54.000 And that the politicians who posture about his death, when they could have prevented it.

00:58:59.000 And unfortunately I get so overheated, I get so pissed, that in many cases I have allowed myself to sound like I'm mad at the junkie, when I'm certainly not.

00:59:11.000 As a sober person I have Deep empathy for anyone who's lost an addiction, particularly on the street.

00:59:18.000 Tucker Carlson, who on a personal level was extremely kind and beautiful to me and I think he's a good person and I don't believe that he is a negative influence in American cultural life.

00:59:18.000 So there we go.

00:59:29.000 I believe that you have to accept that people have different perspectives on cultural issues and if you don't the alternative is some form of tyranny and hopefully it's the form of tyranny that you happen to agree with and I don't think that's the answer because It's a big old world out there, and people do human different.

00:59:44.000 So I think that, broadly speaking, that was a positive conversation, and generally speaking, we need more conversations like it.

00:59:50.000 And by God, I've been having them, because I also went on Greg Gutfeld's show, which I didn't know is the highest-rated late-night show on television.

00:59:57.000 Not Kimmel or any of those others, it's this one.

00:59:59.000 So I went on there to talk about similar issues, which of course, I suppose, makes me a right-wing conspiracy theorist.

01:00:04.000 And like all good right-wing conspiracy theorists, I went on Fox News and said this.

01:00:08.000 Are you worried about the IQ decline?

01:00:10.000 Yes I am, and actually I've got a series of good points to make because education is fundamentally affected by poverty.

01:00:17.000 Here, Greg Gutfield was talking about IQs dropping in America for the first time in, I don't know, 50 years ever, one of those things.

01:00:22.000 And I used the opportunity to talk about education and the connection between education and poverty and the necessity to invest in education.

01:00:30.000 Have a look.

01:00:31.000 OK, so listen to this.

01:00:32.000 According to Global Citizen, poverty is the main barrier to education in the United States.

01:00:37.000 I want to draw your collective attention to the pandemic.

01:00:39.000 I think we all understand that during the pandemic, education declined.

01:00:42.000 Now, I can see that Greg's only got a one-minute break, a one-minute to a commercial, so I've got to wrap this thing up.

01:00:46.000 I have other panellists, Russell.

01:00:47.000 Huh?

01:00:48.000 I have other panellists.

01:00:49.000 Oh, thanks for coming.

01:00:54.000 Now listen, during that pandemic period, billionaires added five trillion to their fortunes.

01:00:58.000 That means that during the pandemic, a new billionaire was created every single day, while extreme poverty increased everywhere, while small businesses closed everywhere.

01:01:08.000 Now I'm going to say something on Fox News that until recently would not have been possible.

01:01:12.000 As president, Donald Trump's tax cuts helped billionaires pay less taxes than the working class in 2018.

01:01:17.000 For the first time in American history, the 400 wealthiest people paid a lower tax rate than any other group.

01:01:22.000 Right-wing fascists, come on.

01:01:24.000 But, check this out Fox News viewers, because you're going to like this bit.

01:01:27.000 In October 2021, Democrats scaled back plans for a crackdown on tax cheating,

01:01:32.000 bowing to an aggressive lobbying campaign by the banking industry,

01:01:35.000 while Joe Biden told rich donors on the campaign trail that nothing would fundamentally change if he were elected

01:01:40.000 president.

01:01:41.000 So, like some of the great points in your monologue, you made the point that it's the two-party system itself,

01:01:46.000 and in particular the manner in which it is funded, that prevents meaningful change for ordinary people.

01:01:50.000 And this education problem, while the jokes you made were about the culture, Kardashians, etc.

01:01:55.000 Really, education, if the state has a duty at all, is the cultivation of young Americans, is the protection of young Americans.

01:02:01.000 This would be my point, Greg Gutfeld.

01:02:03.000 Very good, very good.

01:02:06.000 I belong to self-organizing, anarchic, mutual support groups that help people with various addiction issues.

01:02:13.000 In those groups, we say, look for the similarities and not for the differences.

01:02:17.000 Do you think that might be something that's applicable in culture more broadly?

01:02:21.000 That we should look for the areas where we agree with one another rather than focusing on the disagreements?

01:02:26.000 Where there are disagreements, perhaps what we have to have is autonomy.

01:02:30.000 You want to live a traditional lifestyle?

01:02:32.000 You go for it.

01:02:33.000 You want to live a progressive lifestyle?

01:02:35.000 You go for it.

01:02:35.000 The state should be minimally involved in people's lives.

01:02:39.000 Minimally might mean you need support with education, you might need military support.

01:02:42.000 These are things that we can vote on.

01:02:44.000 Wouldn't you prefer to be voting in systems where your politicians haven't already been co-opted?

01:02:48.000 Let me know in the comments.

01:02:49.000 Are you willing to allow other people to live how they want to if they allow you to live how you want to?

01:02:54.000 Do you think centralised authority might benefit from continually stoking differences, creating conflict between ordinary people who have far more in common with one another than they'll ever have with the establishment and institutions that govern their lives?

01:03:05.000 Do you think a better world is possible if we reach out our hand in friendship to people that we don't agree with?

01:03:10.000 Or do you think we should be doubling down on differences, throwing stones, arguing and bickering?

01:03:14.000 Can you imagine me having a conversation like that on MSNBC or CNN?

01:03:18.000 It's experience, it's just sort of taking it all in.

01:03:20.000 You are talking about me as if I'm not here.

01:03:23.000 And as if I'm an extraterrestrial.

01:03:25.000 Doesn't that seem like a reason to go on Fox News and discuss that stuff?

01:03:30.000 Let me know in the chat.

01:03:31.000 Let me know in the comments what you think.

01:03:32.000 So the establishment media can do as many hit pieces on me as they want to. 1.00

01:03:37.000 I'm going to continue to reach out and have conversations with people from across the political spectrum because one thing I've noticed that they believe and I don't believe is they think you're stupid. 0.99

01:03:45.000 They think you can't handle nuance. 0.98

01:03:47.000 They think you can't handle complicated conversations about the balance between power And duty, and authority, and largesse, and licentiousness, and morality, and ethics, and all of the complexity there entails.

01:03:59.000 I believe you can handle it.

01:04:01.000 I believe you can handle the truth.

01:04:03.000 I believe that collectively we have a greater intelligence than any aristocracy.

01:04:06.000 I believe in true democracy.

01:04:08.000 I believe that if we have conversations like this, we will come to peaceful conclusions that meaningfully change the trajectory of the planet.

01:04:15.000 That's what I believe.

01:04:16.000 That human beings are fundamentally beautiful.

01:04:18.000 There's a bit of good in the worst of us and a bit of bad in the best of us.

01:04:21.000 And together we can create something beautiful.

01:04:23.000 But that's just what I think.

01:04:24.000 Let me know what you think in the comments in the chat.

01:04:25.000 I'll see you in just a few seconds.

01:04:27.000 Thanks for refusing Fox News.

01:04:29.000 I'm done.

01:04:30.000 No. 1.00

01:04:30.000 He's the fucking loser. 1.00

01:04:32.000 So many comments from you guys. 1.00

01:04:36.000 Thank you for contributing to the conversation.

01:04:39.000 Amy Bugavila, the lines are blurred now.

01:04:42.000 Highlander79, Russell has to go through the BBC, they play ball different over there.

01:04:46.000 Kelly P, Russell I'm learning so much about how to have respectful conversations with diverse people.

01:04:51.000 Then she says a compliment I won't read out loud otherwise it looks like I just used the comments to... Yeah.

01:04:57.000 Imagine if I... We'll discover that you actually wrote it.

01:04:59.000 Oh, Russell!

01:05:01.000 I am so... I mean, you are so great!

01:05:03.000 Oh, sorry, I don't know who wrote that.

01:05:05.000 Yeah, loads of you.

01:05:06.000 Some great stuff.

01:05:07.000 Some people saying, like, that Tucker was charming there, but they don't trust him.

01:05:11.000 Other people saying they love Tucker.

01:05:13.000 Me and Gareth were chatting about it, and we were saying, like, oh, maybe what it is is, like, the right or the Republicans.

01:05:18.000 Let me know if you agree with this.

01:05:19.000 benefit from voter apathy and disinterestedness in partisan politics, so ultimately if everyone thinks, oh the whole system's corrupt and stop voting, old people will still vote because they love it, and right-wing politicians will get in. 0.97

01:05:31.000 But hey man, you know, you can't make an omelette without, well, shitting in the woods. 0.94

01:05:36.000 I can't remember the details. 0.94

01:05:37.000 There's something that has to happen for an omelette to happen.

01:05:39.000 I can't remember.

01:05:40.000 It's complicated stuff.

01:05:41.000 Have you ever made an omelette?

01:05:43.000 It's not very nice. 0.52

01:05:44.000 It smelled disgusting.

01:05:46.000 And it had a stool in the middle of it, Gareth! 0.60

01:05:48.000 A stool, I tell thee!

01:05:51.000 Anyway, loads of lovely comments.

01:05:52.000 And if you wanna get involved in these comments, join our locals community.

01:05:55.000 You can join it for free, but if you become a member, you get ad-free content.

01:05:59.000 What a glorious thing that is.

01:05:59.000 Imagine that.

01:06:01.000 Also, you get the weekly show, Stay Connected, where me and Gareth show you how we make this show and respond As well as getting my new stand-up, Brandemic.

01:06:10.000 Have a look at a little clip of that.

01:06:12.000 It's only a minute long.

01:06:13.000 It's pretty funny, I think.

01:06:15.000 Yeah, I remember this bit.

01:06:15.000 You'll love this.

01:06:16.000 Have a look at a clip from my stand-up show right now.

01:06:19.000 Remember the feeling you had, cos I fucking do, the first time you saw people queuing up outside a supermarket? 1.00

01:06:27.000 I see people queuing up outside a supermarket, and I thought, fuck off! 0.99

01:06:33.000 There is no way that I will ever queue up outside a supermarket! 1.00

01:06:40.000 Like it's a nightclub!

01:06:41.000 It's not like Phil will be roving a geezer in a stab fest!

01:06:44.000 And I'm not joking!

01:06:45.000 The supermarket!

01:06:47.000 I won't do it. 0.99

01:06:48.000 But I fucking did. 1.00

01:06:51.000 I stood there like an obedient prisoner of the state on my little fucking sticker circle. 0.99

01:07:00.000 And waited till the person on that sticker had moved along. 0.99

01:07:05.000 Then I took my turn nicely. 0.91

01:07:08.000 Like Twister for wankers. 0.93

01:07:10.000 LAUGHTER APPLAUSE

01:07:14.000 CHEERING You can buy that for a one-off fee of $20 on Locals right

01:07:20.000 now or for $50 you get access to everything.

01:07:24.000 Just want to reassure people who might buy it, though, there's not a countdown clock in the corner for the whole way through.

01:07:29.000 Right, no, because that undermines me, that countdown.

01:07:31.000 Like, when's this guy going to shut up in 46 minutes and 32 seconds?

01:07:31.000 It does a little bit, doesn't it?

01:07:35.000 That's when he's going to shut up.

01:07:37.000 Also, if you join us on Locals, check this out.

01:07:39.000 You're gonna love this.

01:07:40.000 We're having a podcast with Graham Hancock, the amateur Egyptologist and studier of arcane systems.

01:07:47.000 Right-wing conspiracy theorist.

01:07:48.000 Also that, like everyone.

01:07:50.000 I don't know how he's a right-wing conspiracy theorist. 0.76

01:07:52.000 I think his wife's, like, a black woman. 0.96

01:07:54.000 I feel like he's a pretty cool guy, as a matter of fact.

01:07:56.000 I've never heard him do or say anything right-wing.

01:07:59.000 He's the most dangerous man on television, apparently, I think, according to The Guardian.

01:08:02.000 What is he... What's the problem?

01:08:04.000 Like, also, what, like...

01:08:05.000 All he's saying is there might have been earlier civilizations.

01:08:07.000 He's challenging the archaeological convention.

01:08:09.000 You are able to just go, no, I don't agree with that.

01:08:12.000 You can just go, no, I think the archaeological conventions are fine.

01:08:14.000 It's not like saying, I'll kill you if you don't agree that archaeological conventions must be challenged.

01:08:20.000 Anyway, if you want to come and see me actually in real life, chat to Graham Hancock.

01:08:24.000 We're going to give away a few sets of tickets, but only to people that are on local.

01:08:28.000 So join it now.

01:08:29.000 If you're already a Locals member, you'll be able to watch it stream online Or win these tickets and actually come here to Stay Free HQ and join us, be among us.

01:08:38.000 Imagine seeing Gareth in the flesh, stroking him.

01:08:41.000 Some of the other people back there that are working so hard to create this content.

01:08:45.000 You can look at them, study them, prod them.

01:08:47.000 You can even use my Please Can I Talk Now stick to poke at them, to goad them, to goad them into violence and see how they respond under pressure.

01:08:55.000 I try every day to give them a little bit of pressure just to see how they cope.

01:08:58.000 Join my community, sign up to Locals, there's a red button if you're watching on a laptop, on a phone it's a bit different, but you know, join up, you understand tech, right?

01:09:04.000 You're watching this now.

01:09:05.000 On the show, tomorrow, we've got a city trader turned inequality campaigner by the name of Gary Stevenson.

01:09:12.000 I've seen this guy on Instagram talking about how the system works, he'll love it, he's just talking about the corruption of it.

01:09:17.000 Sort of an extemporisation on Assange's edict that the function of government is to take public money and to put it into private hands.

01:09:23.000 He explains how it works.

01:09:24.000 Like, as Seinfeld famously says, it's like someone who's read the inside of the Monopoly lid, you know, and so knows what community chest means.

01:09:30.000 What is community chest?

01:09:31.000 Does anyone really know?

01:09:33.000 So, join us on the show tomorrow.

01:09:36.000 Well done today, Gareth.

01:09:37.000 Great show.

01:09:37.000 Thank you so much.

01:09:38.000 You did really well.

01:09:39.000 That's enough out of you, thanks.

01:09:40.000 I've got to talk now.

01:09:41.000 Join us tomorrow, not for more of the same, but for more of the different.

01:09:45.000 Until then, stay free.

01:09:46.000 Many switch it, switch on, switch off.

Stay Free - Russel Brand - March 14, 2023

Banking Meltdown – 2008 Crisis All Over Again? - #090 - Stay Free With Russell Brand

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