Stay Free - Russel Brand - BEAR GRYLLS & RUSSELL BRAND: How To Survive The APOCALYPSE - Stay Free #169

00:00:00.000 Outro Music In this video, you're going to see the future.

00:00:31.000 Hello there, you Awakening Wonders.

00:00:33.000 Thanks for joining me today for Stay Free with Russell Brand, only on Rumble.

00:00:37.000 Of course, this initial period we are on YouTube, but after the first 15 minutes or so, we exclusively switched to add the home of free speech, our mothership, Rumble, not so that we can propagate hate speech.

00:00:49.000 We've got no interest in that.

00:00:51.000 So that we can propagate free speech, and today I am privileged to be speaking freely with a world-renowned adventurer, a great man, a survivor, a man who has taught himself and others how to overcome challenges, who knows about leadership, who knows about the military, who knows about extreme situations, who knows how to master the body and conquer the self, and I'm going to be introducing him in just a moment. You know who he is, I know I'm trying to

00:01:16.000 build it up because we've already posted on social media who he is, so it's not like, who's

00:01:19.000 it going to be? Also, later in the show in Here's the News, we're going to be looking

00:01:24.000 at the digital dollar, about oh, you like cryptocurrencies now, do you? Now that you can

00:01:29.000 control them. I thought Bitcoin was evil. Now that we can control it, digital currencies

00:01:34.000 are a good thing.

00:01:35.000 We're going to be investigating that and just how much power that grants the establishment the ability to shut down bank accounts, to control economies.

00:01:43.000 It's extraordinary how fast this is moving.

00:01:46.000 Over 50% of the countries of the world are trialing and preparing for CBDC.

00:01:50.000 So I have to make sure I get that acronym right.

00:01:53.000 Now, it is my privilege To be able to introduce a man you will know from shows like Running Wild, Man vs. Wild.

00:02:00.000 His latest show is on National Geographic and he's had me as a guest, so he's been pushed to the very limit.

00:02:06.000 It's Bear Grylls.

00:02:07.000 Hello, Bear.

00:02:07.000 Welcome.

00:02:09.000 Hey, Russell.

00:02:10.000 Pushed to the very limit.

00:02:16.000 It was a privilege.

00:02:17.000 Listen, I tell you, out of all the episodes and journeys I've done over the years, that one will stay with me to my dying day.

00:02:23.000 And I loved it.

00:02:25.000 And it's been a lovely friendship since.

00:02:27.000 So nice to be with you.

00:02:28.000 Thank you, Bear.

00:02:28.000 Thanks for joining us.

00:02:29.000 Even when you're on a Zoom call, you look like you're in an outrageously rugged situation.

00:02:34.000 You must be hanging off the edge of a cliff or dangling from a helicopter.

00:02:39.000 Thank you for joining us in an appropriately rugged environment.

00:02:43.000 Like, over the years, with some of my favourite guests, I've, like, really enjoyed watching the Obama episode.

00:02:48.000 I loved some of the early shows you did with British stars like Jonathan Ross.

00:02:52.000 One of my favourites was Alex Harland, the free climber, and I know that was a Big one for you.

00:02:58.000 How do you deal with it when you have to survive with people that, uh, let's put it like... Like, when I was asked to come on your show, I thought, like, this is how I categorized it.

00:03:08.000 Like, some people did really, really well, and like, were like, oh my god, that person could actually survive in the wild.

00:03:13.000 Like, and then there are some people that you have to cosset a little bit, and cotton wool, and kid glove, and mollycoddle.

00:03:20.000 Where do I fall?

00:03:21.000 On that scale bear of like, you know, this is a person I can go into battle with, and this is a person I'm going to have to carry on my back in a knapsack.

00:03:31.000 You fall into both those categories.

00:03:33.000 I will go into battle with you any day, but there might be a few moments where I might have to carry you in the knapsack, as you call it.

00:03:42.000 I would say, I think for me, the really fun part of running wild is that 99% of the time, the people I take away Wilderness rookies, so to speak.

00:03:51.000 You know, they're totally out of their comfort zone.

00:03:53.000 Even the even the sort of, you know, alpha male adventure stars, even the guy, you know, like Zac Efron or Channing Tatum, somebody who's physical and, you know, fit and strong and loves that sort of thing.

00:04:05.000 Often, though, they've never done stuff off the beaten path.

00:04:10.000 You know, even Zach, I remember him saying to me, I love hiking, love, you know, being out Go left or go right from the trail.

00:04:20.000 And I think Running Wild thrives on going left or right off the trail.

00:04:24.000 So I would say 99% of the time the people I take are rookies.

00:04:29.000 I think though...

00:04:30.000 The kind of fun for me is taking absolute real rookies, you know, and therefore I know you were sort of, you know, a little apprehensive before doing it, saying, I've never done anything like this.

00:04:42.000 This is really out of my comfort zone.

00:04:45.000 But in a way, that's sort of, I love that, because it's honest, it's fun.

00:04:49.000 You know where you're starting from.

00:04:51.000 There's a sort of vulnerability that always then excels on the show, because I think if somebody arrives Knowing too much, or kind of thinking they're, you know, wanting to prove themselves physically too much.

00:05:05.000 In a way, it takes a while to break through that.

00:05:07.000 Where if you take somebody like you, who just kind of arrives saying, Bear, I trust you, I'm all in, here we go.

00:05:14.000 It's kind of like, my heart sings to that, because it's like, here we go, this is going to be so fun.

00:05:20.000 And sure enough, by the end, look at you.

00:05:22.000 You were smashing it.

00:05:23.000 Your eyes were even brighter than ever, and big smile on your face.

00:05:27.000 And all of the crew at the end of our one with you said, what a lovely, lovely, honest, strong, kind, family-centered, determined, vulnerable as well.

00:05:39.000 You were so honest about so much of your journey.

00:05:41.000 What a cool guy.

00:05:42.000 So you should be really proud of how you did.

00:05:45.000 And we all loved it.

00:05:46.000 Thank you so much, Bear.

00:05:47.000 I loved the experience myself.

00:05:48.000 What I can say is it's 100% authentic, that you are 100% authentic, that you actually can do all those things, that it was exposed to me, that I undeniably have challenges doing.

00:06:02.000 Like, I did things for the first time on that trip with you, man.

00:06:07.000 Like the rap There were moments in the show where I was actually genuinely terrified.

00:06:16.000 If you're watching us on YouTube, we'll be available for about 10 minutes.

00:06:19.000 Then I'm going to start asking Bear about how we're going to survive the inevitable and eventual apocalypse, however you approach that idea politically.

00:06:29.000 What's important to me about Bear and Bear's work, and there are many things, but one thing I really identify with or, excuse me, find appealing about Bear's work is The ability to be independent in this world, the ability to survive, the ability to look after yourself, the ability to be at home in nature, the environments that we evolved to live in that now seem so detached from us.

00:06:48.000 In a sense, one of the things that I learned from going on Running Wild is, oh my god, I'm evolved to live like this and I can't do it.

00:06:55.000 I mean, Bear, I told you at the time that straight after experiencing some of my challenges climbing, I went to near where I live in High Wycombe And went to, like, the climbing wall there and thought, I've got to be better at climbing.

00:07:05.000 I cannot be as bad at climbing as I was on Bear's show because that's unacceptable.

00:07:10.000 So I subsequently went and learned climbing.

00:07:13.000 If you have a question for Bear or any ideas for Bear, for example, if you're watching this, you might want to tell us who you'd most like to see on Running Wild or any other questions, press the red button and join us on Locals.

00:07:25.000 That's where I'm watching the chat and where we've got questions like this one from FCDT.

00:07:30.000 What wild antic have you done, Bear, that you would never do again?

00:07:34.000 So I'll just give you that question now, Bear.

00:07:38.000 Oh gosh, where do we begin?

00:07:40.000 You know, I think, as they say, adventure only really happens when things start to go wrong.

00:07:47.000 I've been in so many situations where things have gone wrong, from parachute failures to pinned in whitewater rapids, crevasses, avalanches, rockfalls, bitten by snakes, you name it.

00:08:00.000 I think You know if I had to pick one what was the other one that I would never want to do again?

00:08:05.000 Like you'd never do it again even though you deliberately did it?

00:08:09.000 Well I think um one of the early expeditions that people don't really know about but I took a team of five of us in a rigid inflatable boat essentially an inflatable boat with a little engine and uh across 3,000 miles of the arctic ocean from Halifax, Nova Scotia, North, across around Greenland, and eventually dropping down to Iceland and Scotland.

00:08:31.000 And we got caught in some, you know, this was, we got caught in horrendous storms, 500 miles offshore in the night.

00:08:40.000 Waves the size of houses crashing on top of us, icebergs everywhere.

00:08:45.000 And we were very lucky, I think, to come out of that one alive.

00:08:50.000 All of us were pretty shaken three weeks later.

00:08:54.000 And the sea is, well, the wild is a humbling place, but I think big mountains and the sea especially are incredibly humbling.

00:09:02.000 You know, I always remember this guy saying to me, Mother Nature's It's like your mother.

00:09:08.000 You know, if you respect her, she'll treat you right.

00:09:11.000 If you disrespect her, she'll teach you a lesson you're never, ever going to forget.

00:09:17.000 Mother Nature taught us a lesson that day that was, well, that month.

00:09:21.000 But I'm very grateful to have got out of that one.

00:09:24.000 Still, every year to this day, the guys I was with will send me a text on the day and the night of this worst storm, It lasts for about 48 hours, and they sent me a text saying, this time, X number of years ago, we thought it was game over.

00:09:45.000 I don't know, I think there's a bonding about going through scary situations together, and there's an element of that always on Running Wild.

00:09:54.000 And I love that.

00:09:55.000 It's been the thing that's always been the appeal for me of The Wild is the bonds you create with people in difficult and scary moments.

00:10:03.000 But that was one of them.

00:10:05.000 I mean, that's a beautiful example.

00:10:07.000 One of the things I...

00:10:09.000 What I reflect on continually in my own journey of personal evolution is how uprooted and detached we've become from nature and from our own power.

00:10:20.000 And when you speak about the bonds between people that experience that kind of adversity, it speaks to a kind of a tribal connection, a kind of mutual initiation, A sort of strength in the unity of knowing that nature is all-powerful, but that we are part of nature, that we can draw upon resources in ourself.

00:10:43.000 One of the things that struck me during that experience, and I'm very glad to note that that experience of confronting the gale and the oceans and the element was not as traumatic as wearing traditional Scottish dress a kill with me and not having underpants because believe me

00:11:01.000 I've got some memories from that experience bear that we'll be talking about but we won't be

00:11:04.000 talking about on that on YouTube we'll wait till we're exclusively on rumble where we also have a

00:11:10.000 clip of my appearance on running wild we'll show that so if you're watching us on YouTube

00:11:15.000 join us over on rumble and if you're watching us on rumble press the red button right now to

00:11:19.000 join us on the chat and pass on a question There's a question here from Sherman Tank asking about your diet.

00:11:25.000 I understand, you know, I'm a vegan.

00:11:27.000 You mostly eat meat, I understand, Bear, and I can certainly see some of the side effects of that when I was abseiling down beneath you and looking up your kilt.

00:11:36.000 Certainly seems that there are some benefits that I would like to explore.

00:11:40.000 But for now, I want to say that one of the things that struck me is that a lot of your crew were ex-service people, like the people that have been in the military, people that have been in the police force.

00:11:49.000 I feel people that have been in elite service positions.

00:11:52.000 I know that you're a former SAS.

00:11:53.000 Is that important to you to work with people that have had that kind of experience in the military, and particularly in elite forces?

00:11:59.000 And what is it that you find uniquely working with men and women that have that kind of service experience, Bear?

00:12:07.000 I don't take those for granted and I think one of the things I really missed after the military was that camaraderie and I think what I've really worked hard over the years to create is to build that Team back up to put that a team, so to speak, back together.

00:12:30.000 And we employed so many former guys that I served with and friends from the Royal Marines and also different, you know, service branches, but people who've always got a connection.

00:12:44.000 It might be one or two away, but people with, you know, all the wider team work with and trust and love.

00:12:49.000 And I think that That's always come before skills, you know?

00:12:53.000 And same on expeditions.

00:12:54.000 We've always hired on character and people we like and trust before the skills.

00:13:00.000 The skills you can teach, loyalty and humility and kindness and selflessness, those sort of qualities are harder to teach.

00:13:09.000 And I think a lot of people talk a good game on them, but I think you develop a level of Connection and trust when you serve with people in whether it's the police or military or whatever that it's hard to recreate so my first port of call when we started the TV shows was to go to my best buddies and who I'd served with and we started small and we've grown from there but

00:13:33.000 Now having done it for a while and it's grown, I think one of the things I'm most proud of are those friendships that have endured.

00:13:41.000 The terrain has changed.

00:13:44.000 Our crew always say, it's not bad guys chasing us, it's us dodging the bad animals.

00:13:52.000 We're not having incoming bullets, we're having Dodging the snakes and the crocodiles and the typhoons.

00:13:57.000 But it's the same spirit, isn't it?

00:14:00.000 It's a different terrain, but the same spirit, which is you're going to work hard.

00:14:05.000 You've got to have each other's back.

00:14:06.000 You're going to have to dig deep.

00:14:09.000 You're going to have to trust each other with your lives most days, which is certainly true in our case.

00:14:16.000 But at the end of it, we get home, we get back to the family, and we We'll laugh and we'll take the mick out of each other.

00:14:23.000 I don't know, that part is as important to me as the working hard in the moment bit.

00:14:31.000 Start a job in the media, as you know.

00:14:34.000 Everyone's always very polite and nice.

00:14:39.000 I like the banter.

00:14:40.000 I really value that.

00:14:40.000 I really do.

00:14:41.000 Those old friendships that can still laugh at ourselves.

00:14:46.000 It's the thing I'm most proud of on our show.

00:14:49.000 The connections and friendships that have endured through so much and are still going.

00:14:52.000 I was really struck by the vibe of your crew and that it was run like a military operation at points.

00:15:01.000 And I feel like I have to candidly say that, because I talk about it all the time on Stay Free, I'm deeply, deeply cynical about establishment authority.

00:15:11.000 For example, the military industrial complex and many of the private interests behind it.

00:15:16.000 But I've got Absolutely nothing but respect for people that have served in the military, that are willing to put a higher purpose in front of their own safety.

00:15:25.000 And the men and women that I worked with on your show are such a great example of that.

00:15:31.000 In particular, obviously yourself, but also Scott, who seems to have a Scotty there, who has a very particular role on your show.

00:15:38.000 It seems to be like they're ensuring that there's safety.

00:15:41.000 I remember when I asked what his job was, everybody laughed.

00:15:43.000 So there must be some sort of ongoing joke there.

00:15:46.000 But I feel like Scotty has got background in the military, background in the police force.

00:15:50.000 He's such a laugh to be around.

00:15:52.000 Fantastic stories, not all of which are appropriate for broadcast, but all of which demonstrated the kind of camaraderie and good humour that you talk about.

00:16:01.000 Yeah, I felt like that.

00:16:02.000 It's an important thing for me to make clear that I always, whenever I get the opportunity, say I really respect people that are willing to put themselves in front of danger like that because sometimes you have to iterate that complexity so people don't think you're disrespectful towards people that are willing to put their lives on the line, man.

00:16:21.000 I wonder what you feel about that, how to balance that kind of complexity.

00:16:27.000 Well, I love hearing that.

00:16:29.000 And you know, those guys I work with are due so much respect.

00:16:33.000 They'll not only be best friends, but also we've been through so much together over the years on and off TV.

00:16:40.000 And they really are the unsung heroes.

00:16:42.000 When I say that, I don't pay lip service.

00:16:45.000 They really are.

00:16:46.000 They work way harder than me.

00:16:47.000 They're way tougher than me.

00:16:49.000 Way more competent in so many ways.

00:16:51.000 They carry all the gear.

00:16:53.000 They do everything I do, but backwards.

00:16:57.000 And yeah, so for me, best friends, unsung heroes.

00:17:00.000 And I love hearing sort of guests really value that as well, because I think often You know, often guests sort of, you know, they don't know what to expect when they arrive on Running Wild.

00:17:11.000 Sometimes they go, wow, I really thought there'd be a hundred crew and it'd be sort of craft catering and it would be sort of well organized.

00:17:18.000 And then they turn up and it's sort of six of us and a coil of rope and a rough idea of where we're going, but pretty rough.

00:17:26.000 But by the end, I often find the guests love that because it's sort of so The opposite of what they've experienced in Hollywood, which is everything so controlled and so measured.

00:17:37.000 Every box is signed and signed off and every harness double checked by this.

00:17:41.000 And I think what I've learned over the years is that big numbers of people and a lot of box filling doesn't necessarily equal safety.

00:17:50.000 You know, safety comes down to competence and experience and trust and a lack of ego in the big moments and a familiarity working together and a never get complacent spirit.

00:18:02.000 You know, those sort of things hold real currency and value in my world where, you know, I'm putting superstars lives on the line like yourself, you know, every week.

00:18:11.000 And you've got to get it right every time.

00:18:13.000 So we take this safety very In the friendships, I think, first.

00:18:21.000 There were moments making Running Wild with Bear Grylls where I was genuinely and actually scared.

00:18:28.000 And I, in my life, often sought comfort from the fact that there is a camera present.

00:18:33.000 I think, if there's a camera present, I cannot die.

00:18:36.000 This is television.

00:18:38.000 I must be safe.

00:18:39.000 But there were points making this show with Bear where I was actually like, oh no, I'm having a genuine experience.

00:18:45.000 I'm not in control.

00:18:47.000 It must be visible on my face.

00:18:48.000 As a result of that, I have not watched back this footage yet.

00:18:51.000 We've got an exclusive clip to show.

00:18:53.000 If you're watching us on YouTube, we're going to be exclusively broadcasting now on Rumble.

00:18:57.000 So click the link in the description and join us.

00:19:00.000 Join us now over on Rumble.

00:19:01.000 In addition to this exclusive clip, I'm going to be asking Bear about the phenomena of doomsday prepping.

00:19:08.000 Preparing for a post-civilisation world.

00:19:10.000 A world that, what?

00:19:11.000 One of the things I kept thinking making the show is, Bear will be alright.

00:19:14.000 Bear and his family will be okay.

00:19:16.000 I've already seen Bear basically throwing his 16-year-old kids out of aeroplanes and stuff.

00:19:20.000 The Grylls family are going to be able to deal with it when the ATMs stop watching.

00:19:25.000 How are your family going to be?

00:19:26.000 Also, we asked in a poll earlier, how long before the apocalypse?

00:19:30.000 Ten years?

00:19:30.000 Five years?

00:19:31.000 Or are we going to be fine?

00:19:32.000 We'll be discussing all of that and much more as well as showing my clip over on Rumble.

00:19:36.000 So if you're watching this on YouTube, click that link in the description and join us there now.

00:19:40.000 See you in a second, you Awakening Wonders.

00:19:42.000 If you're watching this on Rumble, why don't you press the red button where you can ask questions for Bear and I'll ask them after this clip.

00:19:48.000 Now, I've not watched this clip back yet because of...

00:19:51.000 Frankly, shyness, because I know I was scared a bunch of times, so I'm not even sure what this clip is, but this is an exclusive moment from my time with Bear on the inner Hebridean Isle.

00:20:02.000 Presumably I'm wearing a kilt.

00:20:04.000 We'll discuss what was going on underneath those kilts in a minute.

00:20:06.000 Let's have a look at the clip.

00:20:08.000 Looking good.

00:20:14.000 Okay, we're getting to the edge.

00:20:17.000 Keep going, keep going.

00:20:21.000 Oh, God.

00:20:22.000 That's great.

00:20:22.000 I'm right with you here.

00:20:25.000 You're doing great.

00:20:27.000 Doing great.

00:20:28.000 Straight and wide.

00:20:29.000 Straight and wide and leaning back.

00:20:33.000 Hey.

00:20:34.000 Yeah, solid.

00:20:35.000 I love it.

00:20:36.000 Really good.

00:20:36.000 Keep them straight and keep them wide.

00:20:39.000 Beautiful.

00:20:40.000 Keep edging it out.

00:20:42.000 Keep leaning back.

00:20:43.000 Trust the system.

00:20:43.000 The more you lean back, the easier it will be.

00:20:47.000 There you go.

00:20:47.000 Keep leaning back.

00:20:48.000 Wide stance.

00:20:50.000 Have a little look under you now.

00:20:51.000 You'll love it.

00:20:52.000 You'll love it.

00:20:54.000 There you go.

00:20:55.000 Smashing it.

00:20:58.000 Brilliant, Russell.

00:20:59.000 Well done.

00:21:01.000 Total control.

00:21:02.000 Super calm.

00:21:03.000 Likewise stance.

00:21:05.000 Trust the system.

00:21:06.000 Trust the system.

00:21:08.000 Oh, God, it's very clipped.

00:21:11.000 Oh, the axe.

00:21:14.000 Were you winding me up?

00:21:15.000 Kept saying, like, the thing you were using to comfort me through that moment when I was raptoring or descending or abseiling or whatever it's called that.

00:21:22.000 You kept saying, trust the system.

00:21:24.000 Trust the system.

00:21:26.000 My main number one defining characteristic is I cannot trust the system.

00:21:31.000 I was so genuinely scared in that moment.

00:21:34.000 And what about the bit when you go, Bear, have a quick look down?

00:21:37.000 That's just cruelty!

00:21:38.000 Cruelty! 0.90

00:21:42.000 That's funny, no.

00:21:43.000 You're the wrong person to have said trust the system to.

00:21:45.000 I do, I do.

00:21:47.000 It's the only time those words have ever come out of your mouth.

00:21:50.000 You go, trust the system, I've got it.

00:21:55.000 The other thing that springs to mind is true pity and apologies to the crew who were underneath you on that cliff face, who'd rappelled down moments earlier.

00:22:06.000 Well, I don't know if you can see on that clip, but he's, Russell and me, wearing Scottish kilts, you know, which always traditionally is worn without underpants.

00:22:15.000 And the crew definitely were, yeah.

00:22:19.000 I got texts for weeks afterwards going, still in therapy from that cliff face.

00:22:23.000 Still in therapy, still recovering.

00:22:28.000 Yeah, not only was it a kilt without underpants, but of course I was also wearing a harness!

00:22:33.000 So it's like I was so proud of it! 0.99

00:22:35.000 So it's like a harness around my naked genitalia! 0.88

00:22:40.000 It was like, that moment after we got out, of course, at the moment, like, I don't want to spoil too much of it, but it's available now if you, I guess, do they release them simultaneously on Disney? 0.95

00:22:50.000 No, my episode's out in August, I think, but some of the other episodes are out now.

00:22:53.000 But we jumped in, I just want to make this clear in case an accidental shot snuck in.

00:22:57.000 The first thing we did was jumped in very, very cold water.

00:23:01.000 The second thing we did was take off our underpants and put a kilt on.

00:23:06.000 Like, even before we'd done anything dangerous, I was absolutely terrified.

00:23:12.000 But I do now feel much more confident surviving in the wild, and certainly my ego was reduced to its minimum size, along with everything else.

00:23:21.000 So, Bear, how, like, is that, and my episode's gonna be out on August the 6th, by the way.

00:23:26.000 Bear, how do you feel about, like, is it, do you ever consider, is it, how much of the forefront of your mind is it, the idea that you can survive in the wild?

00:23:35.000 I know it seems a slightly ridiculous question, but do you ever feel that that's something that might be actually necessary?

00:23:41.000 Is that the sort of thing you reflect upon, the fact that, oh, things may not always be like this, we may not always be cosseted by systems of comfort?

00:23:52.000 I do, yeah.

00:23:53.000 I mean, and that's a really interesting topic conversation.

00:23:57.000 I've got lots on that.

00:23:58.000 I mean, all I say is before we get on to that, just to wrap up Running Wild with you, I look back and I worry, I think, I wonder actually what Russell learned from his time on the show.

00:24:06.000 One is, you know, how to tie a man's skirt, basically, you know.

00:24:11.000 How not to get his testicles caught in the climbing harness, and how to sort of get thrown out of a seaplane at 40 knots before it takes off again.

00:24:22.000 So I'm not sure how relevant those three skills are to the modern apocalypse, but all I say is it's a start, isn't it?

00:24:28.000 It's a start.

00:24:29.000 Yeah, I now know how to be humiliated in front of ex-service people when I think my genitals have been shrunk to their absolute minimum capacity and now I've got to climb up a mountain.

00:24:42.000 I mean, there were just so many moments in that show where I felt like I've got no choice but to absolutely surrender.

00:24:49.000 I mean, obviously one of my key Spiritual principles that I've been taught is, you must surrender, you must surrender.

00:24:55.000 And on that shoe, I felt like I've got no control, I don't know what I'm doing, I was genuinely frightened a number of times, and thank God that I have a religious and spiritual faith, because I don't think I would have got through it without that, so thank the Lord for that.

00:25:09.000 But Bear, on this subject of survival, you mentioned that it is something you've reflected upon, the idea that it might at some point be necessary to utilize these skills, Not for entertainment and to demonstrate the capacity that human beings have that is unexplored and unexpressed, but simply because we have to survive.

00:25:27.000 So, what do you make about that?

00:25:31.000 Well I think survival is in our DNA, isn't it?

00:25:34.000 It's been a key part, the key part of our evolution for hundreds of thousands of years and I think there's a disconnect and suddenly the rapid pace of change that humanity's gone through over the last couple hundred years and actually even just the last 20 years where it's been just not like a A ripple of change.

00:25:54.000 It's been a tsunami.

00:25:55.000 And then to suddenly find yourself bereft of skills that have been passed down for so many generations.

00:26:01.000 And, you know, I think it's no surprise that there is a disconnect and an anxiety in people.

00:26:07.000 Because it is in our DNA to be able to look after ourselves, to be able to look after our family, to know how to survive.

00:26:14.000 And obviously in the modern world, survival takes many different You know, it looks different to how it looked a hundred years ago, but I think the smart people blend both of it.

00:26:25.000 So you're not just, you know, a modern survivor in terms of technology, you know, but you've also got the skills to be able to when things go wrong.

00:26:33.000 And even when things don't go wrong, I meet so many men who come up to me and they go, Just teach me a knot so I can tie the roof rack.

00:26:43.000 Or teach me one simple thing so I can navigate if I haven't got my phone.

00:26:47.000 You know, it's like, this isn't apocalypse stuff.

00:26:50.000 This is like, you know, my phone does work, I just happen to be in an area outside cell reception, so I still need, or I still need to tie that roof rack.

00:26:59.000 I need to know that knot.

00:27:00.000 I need how to start a fire because I haven't got any...

00:27:04.000 You know, firelighters or whatever.

00:27:05.000 These aren't apocalypse skills.

00:27:07.000 These are like just everyday skills that many men I find come up to me and feel bereft of.

00:27:15.000 And obviously, it's not a man thing, but I think it's been traditionally something that men want to feel that they can provide and protect.

00:27:22.000 And therefore, I think it's hard when If you're brought up in a way where you have none of those things, whether you're a man or woman, if you're brought up in a way where you're taught no practical skills, I think it's really hard.

00:27:34.000 I think it leads to a place of quiet anxiety where you go, I can do my job.

00:27:40.000 But I'm a little bit embarrassed that I can't do the knot or the navigating or the fire or whatever, you know, whatever it is.

00:27:48.000 And so I think smart survivors blend all of this.

00:27:52.000 You know, we never lose touch with what's behind us, but we always keep our eye on where we're going in the future.

00:28:00.000 But it is interesting how you can't get rid of That hundreds of thousands of years of evolution in a generation, you know, why is it I can sit the most powerful people in the world, you know, the most, you know, biggest superstars or Hollywood actors or presidents or prime ministers sit down and teach them how to make a fire and they're happy for the first time in a long time to sit and not talk and just watch the fire and think and breathe and feel.

00:28:28.000 Stop and just, you know, why is that?

00:28:32.000 I mean, it's like because it goes back so far.

00:28:34.000 It's deep in here.

00:28:35.000 Why does it light us up in a way that, you know, the blue light from a screen doesn't light us up.

00:28:40.000 Something's going on there.

00:28:41.000 And I think we lose that at our peril.

00:28:44.000 You know, we're not all You know, woodsman.

00:28:50.000 But you want to keep a connection with the land.

00:28:52.000 Keep a connection with the ground.

00:28:55.000 Keep a connection with risk.

00:28:57.000 Keep a connection with adventure.

00:28:59.000 You know, all of these things.

00:29:00.000 You don't need to climb Everest to be a risk taken and adventure spirit.

00:29:05.000 These things are state of mind.

00:29:07.000 So how we live every day.

00:29:08.000 How do we approach life?

00:29:10.000 How do we approach our job?

00:29:11.000 Our relationships?

00:29:12.000 Adventure?

00:29:13.000 It's a it's a state of mind.

00:29:18.000 And always remember the past and keep moving forward.

00:29:23.000 Bear that you described of quiet anxiety. I sometimes feel that defines my life this understanding that we have become

00:29:31.000 captured by systems of comfort knowing that I don't know how to

00:29:35.000 Capture or in the case of me as someone who doesn't eat meat

00:29:40.000 acquire and prepare food adequately prepare shelter Essentially survive I think it's unnatural like in almost

00:29:49.000 the most the most literal sense And I feel that it's beyond emasculating so I recognize

00:29:55.000 that that's a word Oh, no, that it needn't be specific to gender in fact. It's

00:29:59.000 disempowering It's disempowering to feel that you are reliant on technology, that you are reliant on pre-packaged food, that you're reliant on forms of medicine, that everything sometimes starts to feel

00:30:12.000 disconnected. I believe there's a correlative between spiritual disconnection, like not

00:30:19.000 knowing that there is a deeper reality that we can access that can provide us comfort,

00:30:25.000 and a disconnection from nature. A lot of people, and let me know in the chat if you

00:30:31.000 agree with this, if your phone stops working, you feel like you don't know what to do anymore.

00:30:36.000 If you're lost and you can't use the map on your phone, you don't know what to do. I think

00:30:40.000 it's very difficult to feel empowered in this world, and present in this world, if you don't

00:30:45.000 have those skills. And when we live, as I believe we do, in a mental health epidemic,

00:30:49.000 where people are suffering from a great deal of anxiety, a great deal of depression, where

00:30:53.000 addiction's gone through the roof, particularly in the last few years, where a lot of people

00:30:57.000 have felt a deep sense of loss of control. One way of getting it back is through learning

00:31:03.000 these skills. And I know that you have programs to...

00:31:06.000 Uh, help kids that wouldn't have access to these skills, help people with mental health challenges.

00:31:13.000 What are those programs and what kind of impact do you see when people get to grips with some of the skills that you present them with, Bear?

00:31:23.000 Well, we run what we call the Bear Grylls Survival Academy.

00:31:26.000 We run it all over the world for kids, for corporates, for families, all sorts of things.

00:31:31.000 But what I see is that the fundamental principle of these is that nature is our best healer.

00:31:37.000 And there's always going to be a disconnect when, you know, it's all great when everything works, you know, when that cell phone works.

00:31:43.000 And the same with the spiritual as well.

00:31:45.000 When everything's going great, It's all great.

00:31:48.000 But what happens when the cell phone doesn't work or when you do find yourself in life on that back foot and struggling a little bit, you know, then to me, that is when adventure happens.

00:31:58.000 And it's when life gets interesting.

00:32:00.000 But you've got to have a place to go.

00:32:02.000 You've got to have some some skills to fall back on.

00:32:04.000 And in terms of faith, I think it's the same.

00:32:07.000 You've got to have somewhere to go apart from just maybe yourself.

00:32:11.000 So we try and In terms of wilderness stuff, self-adventure skills, self-reliance.

00:32:19.000 How can you do it if nobody's coming for you?

00:32:22.000 If it's all gone wrong?

00:32:23.000 You know, because traditional survival was always quite boring.

00:32:28.000 Traditional survival was always like, if it's all gone wrong, sit down, do nothing, wait for rescue.

00:32:35.000 And that was always going to make quite a boring TV show.

00:32:37.000 So I always liked it.

00:32:38.000 What happens when it's all gone wrong, but nobody's coming to look for you, and you've got nothing apart from A roll of gaffer tape, you know, a couple of coat hangers and a broken water bottle.

00:32:50.000 You know, for me it then gets interesting.

00:32:52.000 So we try and teach you things that is about being resourceful in life and just stopping and thinking and being smart and, you know, all of this sort of spirit, the sort of spirit that so many people I think lack because everything's always done for us or always given these convenient things and the cell phone always works and you know resourcefulness is just a muscle it's a muscle you know how do we train it we use it but if you're never

00:33:21.000 Never practice being resourceful.

00:33:23.000 You can't expect to be a brilliant MacGyver when that cell phone does work, or when you're lost with your family, or your car breaks down, or you're on their back foot.

00:33:32.000 You know, you have to practice these things.

00:33:34.000 So, our Survival Academy is very much the practical arm of that, and they do an amazing job, and I love that.

00:33:41.000 But I think it goes much further than that.

00:33:44.000 It's much more, you know, we are mind, body, spirit, And emotion, aren't we?

00:33:50.000 And I try and do stuff that speaks to all of that.

00:33:53.000 That's why I did a book called Mind Fuel, which is exactly that.

00:33:57.000 I did a book called Soul Fuel, trying to provide spiritual stuff that actually helps people when they're on the back foot.

00:34:02.000 Mind Fuel is about when we're experiencing that anxiety, what can we do to help us end?

00:34:07.000 So always try and do things, even in running wild, that empower people.

00:34:12.000 Like you say, so you're not disempowered by life.

00:34:17.000 You talk about.

00:34:19.000 You're right in so many ways, because whether it's intentional or not, but so much of modern day life is out to disempower you and to get you to be inoperable without them.

00:34:33.000 And it's easy to let happen.

00:34:35.000 And we're all guilty of that.

00:34:37.000 But it's at our own peril.

00:34:40.000 And we've got to, you know, yes, use things.

00:34:42.000 Yes, use convenience.

00:34:43.000 Yes, use all that stuff.

00:34:45.000 But keep something in the back pocket in that arsenal.

00:34:48.000 Be, you know, train yourself.

00:34:50.000 Be mentally resilient.

00:34:51.000 Be spiritually smart.

00:34:53.000 Know how to not just do the practical stuff, but but have an adventure spirit in life.

00:35:00.000 So and this is trying to give people back power rather than always just having the system or whatever you call it, always taking power.

00:35:10.000 And I think a lot of modern life does do that.

00:35:12.000 I'm not saying it's always intentional, but I do think it is a byproduct of modern life.

00:35:17.000 And that covers everything that you champion and talk about so powerfully, from pharmaceutical to big government.

00:35:24.000 It's all the same stuff.

00:35:26.000 The reason I find you a great leader and a great teacher is because you are able to instill, in a very graceful way, important principles that are applicable.

00:35:37.000 When I went to that climbing wall in High Wycombe, having been on Running Wild and found myself falling short, There was a moment where, just on a climbing wall, where you know that you can't really die, you're in a managed environment, with a rope and stuff, with a guy at the bottom, and I was nearly at the top, where it said, you know, when you reach this white grip, that's the finish.

00:35:56.000 And I actually got frightened, like, oh, I can't do this anymore.

00:36:00.000 And then I remembered, I think it's the title of one of your books, Never Give Up.

00:36:04.000 I almost saw your face, Never Give Up, like a lunchbox image of Bear Grylls.

00:36:09.000 I'm gonna get to the top of this climbing wall!

00:36:12.000 It was absolutely practical.

00:36:14.000 And I feel in my own life, like, I know how to hustle.

00:36:17.000 Like, I remember from, like, being 15, 16 years old, if I need to use the London Underground and I can't afford a ticket, I'm gonna get where I need to go.

00:36:24.000 If I don't have any money and I acquire chemical support because of my addictions, I'm gonna find a solution to those problems.

00:36:31.000 Like, hustle is urban survival.

00:36:34.000 You know, but I've always, like, you know, known that I'm coming from a place of vulnerability and that there's been a lot of fear in it.

00:36:39.000 And I recognise that.

00:36:40.000 What I found so appealing about being in that environment was, this is going to make me a better father.

00:36:47.000 This is going to make... Because I have so much distrust in the system.

00:36:51.000 And me and you have had very different journeys, obviously.

00:36:54.000 We're from, in a sense, even though we're both English and we're similar age, we've lived totally different lives.

00:36:59.000 But when I was there, I felt such a strong sense of affection and friendship, but identification as well.

00:37:07.000 I asked you once, What is leadership?

00:37:09.000 And you said it's just kindness, really.

00:37:12.000 It's just kindness.

00:37:14.000 I thought, this guy has a good perspective on stuff that is absolutely applicable, even when I come from a position of like, if not cynicism, I'm optimistic about life, but sort of real scepticism about the nature of power.

00:37:28.000 I was very I'm surprised and heartened by how much common ground, and even hearing you speak now about empowerment, because I do believe there are many conscious and unconscious systems of disempowerment at play, where the role of the individual is increasingly becoming, you are a consumer.

00:37:49.000 You are using this service.

00:37:50.000 You will do this.

00:37:51.000 This is what... No, you're not invited to have personal autonomy and authority in your life.

00:37:57.000 And whether it's, like, your... the survival skills that you talk about, the way that you talk about Christianity and faith, or the health hacks that you talk about, I think you find... you provide so many useful tools.

00:38:08.000 I want to offer you my respect publicly for that, mate.

00:38:12.000 Could you tell us a little bit about, like, these health hacks we talked about before?

00:38:15.000 Because these are the kind of things that our stay-free viewers love.

00:38:20.000 Well, yeah, that's the stuff.

00:38:22.000 First of all, I just reply to some of the other stuff you said, because leadership is so interesting, isn't it, at the moment in the world, you know?

00:38:32.000 The more I see Of so many leaders, it's always like, look at me.

00:38:38.000 It's always about look at me.

00:38:40.000 It's on that say, look at me.

00:38:41.000 That's actually the subliminal message.

00:38:43.000 And my experience from great leaders from the military beyond has been great leadership is the opposite.

00:38:50.000 Great leadership is look at you.

00:38:53.000 Look at what you can do.

00:38:54.000 Look at you.

00:38:55.000 It's always building other people up.

00:38:57.000 And I think kindness is a part of that.

00:38:59.000 But there's a strength as well of great leadership of taking it away from yourself and putting and building other people up.

00:39:06.000 And it's always powerful when you see and you talk about the never give up.

00:39:11.000 I remember you texted me when you were on that climbing wall.

00:39:14.000 Yeah, and you said that, you know, and my family would roll their eyes going, oh, Papa, you're always banging on about never give up and everything's never give up.

00:39:22.000 But you know what?

00:39:24.000 I don't apologize for it ever.

00:39:26.000 It's the number one thing, because all of these skills, everything we've been talking about, all the Survival Academy stuff, these skills you can learn.

00:39:34.000 You can learn that they're just stuff, they're skills. 0.99

00:39:36.000 I mean, look at me, any old idiot. 1.00

00:39:39.000 To learn these skills. 1.00

00:39:41.000 The key to survival is that hustle you talked about.

00:39:44.000 It's that resilience, that spirit, has many different names.

00:39:48.000 You know, fire inside, dogged determination, relentless like, never say die until you're dead, as Baden Powell said.

00:39:56.000 You know, that is, that never give up spirit is what conquers everything.

00:39:59.000 And You know, that's a thing to pass on and to share with people and it's what you're about as well.

00:40:06.000 So, you know, keep doing your stuff because you're right in that zone.

00:40:12.000 To answer your question about health, it comes back to this again about you've got to educate yourself because life doesn't.

00:40:20.000 You know, school doesn't educate people brilliantly.

00:40:23.000 Life does.

00:40:24.000 But it educates generally through failure.

00:40:26.000 And I've been there so often.

00:40:28.000 I've failed at so many things.

00:40:30.000 And I've got so many things wrong.

00:40:32.000 And I've learned so many of these health things, I think, through experimenting and failing.

00:40:38.000 I think we're you and me are pretty aligned.

00:40:41.000 Number one for me is let nature heal you.

00:40:44.000 You know, nature wants to heal you.

00:40:46.000 If you just if we can get out of the way, you know, just get out of the way of the medication, maybe for a second and let nature.

00:40:53.000 I mean, listen, there is a place for medication.

00:40:55.000 I'm not saying nobody should ever die.

00:40:56.000 There is a place, as you know, but but nature is always going to do it best.

00:41:01.000 And simple things for me, I've learned.

00:41:03.000 And by the way, I'm mindful This is for me.

00:41:07.000 This is what's worked for me.

00:41:08.000 It's what's worked from experience for me.

00:41:11.000 I'm very cautious.

00:41:12.000 I'm not telling everyone else how to live their lives.

00:41:15.000 People have to find this stuff out for themselves.

00:41:17.000 But what I have found is that I need to be outside.

00:41:21.000 Not just my physical health, but also my mental health.

00:41:24.000 I need to have that fresh air.

00:41:25.000 I need to have that sun on my face every day.

00:41:27.000 I need to take my shoes off and be barefoot as much as I can in a world that's always trying to separate me from the ground.

00:41:35.000 I need to be physical.

00:41:37.000 I need to physically lift weights every day and do pull-ups.

00:41:40.000 I need resistance training every day.

00:41:43.000 It doesn't have to go crazy, but I need that as I get older.

00:41:47.000 I need to get cold.

00:41:48.000 I know this is something you know.

00:41:49.000 You do it every day.

00:41:50.000 We've spoken about it.

00:41:52.000 You know, none of these things are rocket science, are they?

00:41:54.000 It's like they're all natural things.

00:41:57.000 And the thing is, not one of, not one of these things on their own is going to heal you.

00:42:02.000 But once they mount up, you know, 10, 15, 20 of these little things, of like, even if it's just like first thing in the day, not being on your phone in bed, but just, just get out and get moving.

00:42:14.000 Get moving.

00:42:14.000 Movement's so important.

00:42:16.000 You know, if you start putting enough of these things together, is a strong healthy life and as a father and you as a father and as my role as chief scout to 57 million scouts around the world to both of us having a presence on tv

00:42:33.000 You know, you've got to try and you try, especially with parenting, you do it by example, don't you?

00:42:38.000 It's the most powerful thing.

00:42:39.000 People go, how can you be a good dad?

00:42:41.000 It's like example, example, example.

00:42:43.000 You know, so I don't apologize to my kids for getting out in the morning, getting moving, getting cold, getting the shoes off, getting in the sun and telling them at school.

00:42:54.000 Never give up.

00:42:55.000 Be kind.

00:42:56.000 Be brave in the big moments.

00:42:57.000 Never give up.

00:42:58.000 But it's not about the grades.

00:43:00.000 The academics I don't care about so much.

00:43:02.000 I care about your friendships.

00:43:04.000 You know, none of this is taught at school.

00:43:06.000 And then you wonder why people...

00:43:11.000 I love that stuff.

00:43:16.000 I love the stuff about getting cold.

00:43:17.000 I love the stuff about getting in touch with nature.

00:43:20.000 I like the fact that your approach to nature is a very masculine and active one.

00:43:27.000 Not that there aren't numerous ways to attach to nature, I've just of course come back from Community Festival, where there was Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, where Wim Hof was there, running cold baths, Hiron Gracie and my teacher Chris.

00:43:38.000 Lots of what you might traditionally describe as masculine activity, as well as What are known as feminine activities, and there's, of course, a place for all of that, but what's plain is that our connection to nature is transcendent of limiting ideas around gender, because that's how, as a species, we've evolved.

00:43:59.000 It's obvious that you should eat food that you've evolved alongside, whether or not you have a dietary commitment that's carnivorous, like you, you mad meat-eating brute, or like me, where I don't rely so much on those products.

00:44:13.000 And also being fully open and accepting that there are different ways of being human and that we can harmonise.

00:44:19.000 We don't have to be in conflict about that.

00:44:22.000 I love what you said about leadership and the vanity of leadership.

00:44:25.000 I know that I can fall into that myself sometimes, you know, as a performer, as an entertainer.

00:44:31.000 can be, I can slip into, I just want to be looked at rather than it being about an example

00:44:36.000 and trying my best to instill and inspire, instill good values and inspire good values

00:44:41.000 in other people. These things have taken a lot of work over the course of my life. But

00:44:46.000 I want to touch upon this, like if you've got techniques for pull-ups, Bear, I need

00:44:50.000 help because I've gotten myself into a pull-up competition with a Democrat presidential candidate

00:44:56.000 and a Kennedy dynasty member, RFK, and he's really good at pull-ups. I think he can do

00:45:03.000 like 28, look at the grip he's using there.

00:45:06.000 Have you got any?

00:45:07.000 We're at $33,000 and I've not put this on social media yet because I'm not trying to promote it too much.

00:45:13.000 We have to get to $100,000 before to trigger this potentially humiliating experience.

00:45:18.000 And before that happens, I wonder, oh, I think we've got a clip of you doing pull-ups.

00:45:23.000 Can we have a quick look at that?

00:45:25.000 I know we've only got limited time with you, Bear, so I'll just have a quick look at this This footage of Bear doing pull-ups and then perhaps Bear you'll be kind enough to give me some tips for how to beat RFK and raise some money.

00:45:36.000 Let's have a look at Bear.

00:45:37.000 We've got a branch here ready to go and we're in.

00:45:44.000 Pull-ups.

00:45:48.000 And the great thing about training like this outside, in nature, is everything is instable.

00:45:57.000 It's not like a perfect pull-up bar.

00:45:57.000 Unstable.

00:46:01.000 It's awkward.

00:46:02.000 It's difficult.

00:46:04.000 Challenges your grip as much as your muscles.

00:46:09.000 Oh, that was pretty impressive there.

00:46:10.000 I think they call that a commando grip.

00:46:13.000 Perhaps you can enlighten me about that technique and how I might deploy it there.

00:46:13.000 I don't know.

00:46:18.000 Well, first of all, I'm mindful also not just falling into a category of sort of British machismo pull-up.

00:46:24.000 Listen, you know, we're all on a journey.

00:46:26.000 It doesn't matter how many pull-ups you can do.

00:46:28.000 It's about effort, isn't it?

00:46:29.000 And good for you.

00:46:30.000 And also, the other thing, more importantly, Is vulnerability and what I love about you is that you don't mind being honest and being vulnerable and I think that matters more than any number of pull-ups because it's where vulnerability is where we create connections and I never want to be bracketed as just like

00:46:50.000 It's just the way I live.

00:46:53.000 We all live differently.

00:46:54.000 I think it's about finding what feels true to you and following that, and that is courage.

00:46:59.000 The one thing I noticed on Running Wild is that these stars are top of their game, and yet they arrive like you, totally trusting and vulnerable and out of their control, and they don't know what's ahead.

00:47:12.000 And that, for me, is really interesting, because most people, when they get successful, sit inside their comfort zone, and they don't want to do anything that makes them look vulnerable, because they don't like that fragility.

00:47:24.000 So they'll create these barriers and walls around of machismo, and it's like, look at me, you know?

00:47:30.000 But actually, That's not a comfort zone, it's a comfort pit.

00:47:34.000 It's somewhere we rot and decay and need to get out of fast.

00:47:37.000 And great people, the people at the top of their game, like the Running Wildfolk, like yourself, are willing to be vulnerable because it's that uncomfortable muscle again of like, wow, here we go.

00:47:48.000 Nerves, nerves.

00:47:49.000 I'm climbing a cliff.

00:47:50.000 I'm doing whatever.

00:47:50.000 I'm trusting somebody else with my next few days and my brand and all of this sort of stuff.

00:47:56.000 And I admire that in you But vulnerability is harder.

00:48:02.000 And it's interesting, again, the final point on Running Wild is that often the stars that are most reluctant to do it are the big action stars.

00:48:11.000 And I won't name a few, but there have been certainly a lot over the years of going, I'll do it.

00:48:16.000 My knee's a bit bad at the moment.

00:48:17.000 I need to really train for this.

00:48:18.000 I need nine weeks to train for it.

00:48:20.000 And I'm always like, you don't tell me about the knee because the knee is your is your humanity.

00:48:27.000 I'm so relieved that you as a superstar, strong guy, haven't you?

00:48:31.000 You have some battles.

00:48:32.000 You're like all of us.

00:48:33.000 Scars and struggles and doubts and failures.

00:48:37.000 And like, that's what I'm going to love about you.

00:48:40.000 So share it and you do.

00:48:42.000 And it's part of your brilliance.

00:48:43.000 Oh, Bear, that's so beautiful.

00:48:45.000 I heard recently from someone who heard you speak that you're speaking for a group of young people, and they told me that everything you spoke about was your failures in life, times that you'd failed, times you'd slipped up, things you'd done wrong.

00:48:58.000 And even though your name is literally Bear Grylls, So that does suggest a degree of masculinity and a bit of grr, grr, like almost onomatopoeically, in fact.

00:49:08.000 You still do always make it clear that it's a very inclusive offering that you give that's open to anybody.

00:49:16.000 And I think that you are a living embodiment, in fact, of the best aspects of all of the institutions that you've been a part of.

00:49:23.000 The Scouts, The military.

00:49:26.000 These are all beautiful institutions that have great and high values, and I'm really grateful to be able to speak to you about that and so much more, and I'd keep you here all day, Bear, if it was up to me, because I've always got questions for you, but I'm mindful of your time, and I want to thank you, Bear, for trusting us once more in this conversation, and I'm very excited to watch in full.

00:49:44.000 I may wait till August the 6th, when my episode of Running Wild is on Disney Channel, I guess, because it's part of National Geographic, but there's loads and loads of other episodes.

00:49:54.000 So Lenski's done one, Bradley Cooper's done one, and did Benedict Cumberbatch do one?

00:50:00.000 I'm in some esteemed company there.

00:50:03.000 Yeah, yeah, but I don't think any of them I laughed as much as I did with you.

00:50:07.000 You know, it was genuinely a real pleasure.

00:50:10.000 Although, the Benedict Cumberbatch, we did have a cooler We had a nuclear sub turn up to pick us up, which was quite cool.

00:50:17.000 It came out of the water.

00:50:19.000 That aired last night on Nat Geo in the States.

00:50:22.000 But the Royal Navy sent the sub to pick us up.

00:50:25.000 So I feel I slightly under-delivered with your one.

00:50:29.000 How did we get out of there?

00:50:30.000 What did we do?

00:50:30.000 I can't even remember.

00:50:31.000 I think you shoved me.

00:50:32.000 Oh, it was a helicopter.

00:50:32.000 That was cool.

00:50:33.000 Well, I remember it.

00:50:34.000 How I'm going to frame this is Benedict Cumberbatch got a submarine.

00:50:37.000 I got shoved in a lake and I had to stare up your kilt for half an hour.

00:50:41.000 Seems to me like an unreasonable exchange.

00:50:44.000 You didn't need a nuclear sub.

00:50:46.000 You were just brilliant as you are.

00:50:47.000 Oh, thank you very much.

00:50:48.000 Yeah, I had enough torsos and fuselage to stare up that kilt.

00:50:54.000 Bear, thank you so much, mate.

00:50:55.000 Thanks for joining us.

00:50:57.000 Just before Bear goes, I'll let you know that Running Wild, my one, airs on National Geographic on August 5th, but there are other episodes up now.

00:51:05.000 And you can get tickets for Bear's festival, Gone Wild, which runs from 24th August to the 27th by going to gonewildfestival.com.

00:51:14.000 We'll post all of the links in the chat.

00:51:16.000 Thanks once again, Bear.

00:51:17.000 It's always a privilege to be in your company, sir.

00:51:19.000 Thank you.

00:51:20.000 God bless.

00:51:20.000 You're a legend.

00:51:21.000 God bless you.

00:51:22.000 Thanks man.

00:51:23.000 Thanks very much.

00:51:24.000 We've got the results of that poll.

00:51:25.000 We asked about Armageddon.

00:51:26.000 It's pretty plain that Bayer believes that by utilising our inner power we will be able

00:51:32.000 to deal with changes in the environment.

00:51:35.000 Most of you think, oh it's all fine, it's all fine, we're not going to die in an apocalypse.

00:51:38.000 Oh thank God, that's comfy.

00:51:40.000 And 53% it's all fine.

00:51:42.000 I'm going to actually take that poll result to the bank.

00:51:45.000 But it will not be a digital bank, I tell you that!

00:51:48.000 Because digital currencies seem to be yet another way to control us.

00:51:51.000 I'll be talking about that in a moment.

00:51:52.000 Guess who we've got coming up this week?

00:51:55.000 What other show?

00:51:55.000 Tell me in the chat, what other show could offer you this?

00:51:58.000 We've got presidential candidate Ron DeSantis coming on the show.

00:52:02.000 We'll be talking to him about his book, The Courage to Be Free.

00:52:05.000 Oh, nice, we've got that there.

00:52:06.000 I'm going to change that to Stay Free.

00:52:07.000 Shall I?

00:52:08.000 No, I won't do that.

00:52:10.000 God, imagine the questions for Ron DeSantis.

00:52:12.000 Get them posted in right now!

00:52:15.000 As well as speaking to the great spiritual teacher, Jack Kornfield.

00:52:18.000 We'll be talking about enlightenment.

00:52:20.000 Remember, one of our key projects here is to merge together personal spiritual awakening Individual empowerment with new activated communities that can form new confederacies and alliances in spite of potential cultural differences.

00:52:34.000 We don't need to argue with each other anymore about seeing the world differently.

00:52:37.000 We can celebrate that and come together, unify and confront establishment power.

00:52:41.000 Especially now that I know how to climb down a very tall cliff as long as Bear Grylls is there to coach me through every moment.

00:52:48.000 Occasionally asking me to look down and frankly looking down was easier than looking up when he was there with his kilt and Oh well, I'll talk about that in my stand-up.

00:52:56.000 Listen, if you want to join us on Locals, you bloody well should.

00:52:59.000 Press the red button, you get early access to interviews.

00:53:01.000 So in the event that we record something early, like tomorrow's interview with Oliver Stone, the great filmmaker and thinker, you'll be able to join us live for that.

00:53:09.000 There's people like now, I love a kilt, says Little Renegade.

00:53:11.000 Tamara Spencer, she's wishing people a happy day.

00:53:14.000 Imagination, masculinity and femininity can unite any individual.

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00:53:24.000 Now, there's been another incredible reproach to our freedom.

00:53:28.000 I've talked to you so much about the surveillance state.

00:53:31.000 We've talked continually about anti-protest laws and how they're emerging.

00:53:35.000 We're talking to you continually about how your data is being captured and used by the state and private corporations to manipulate and control you.

00:53:41.000 In this episode, we talk about Digital currencies.

00:53:44.000 Do you know that 50% of the world's nation are piloting and augmenting new digital currencies?

00:53:50.000 Our one, the UK.

00:53:51.000 Your one, the US.

00:53:52.000 New digital dollars.

00:53:53.000 Do you remember when it was Bitcoin?

00:53:54.000 Oh, Bitcoin, it's bad for the environment.

00:53:56.000 It's dangerous.

00:53:57.000 Oh, it's not bad for the environment.

00:53:59.000 Now, what miraculous changes have you wrought?

00:54:01.000 Is it not so dangerous?

00:54:02.000 Of course they don't want us to have currencies where we can trade independently and bypass their centralised corrupt financial systems.

00:54:09.000 Digital dollars?

00:54:10.000 Let's have a little look at them.

00:54:11.000 Here's the news.

00:54:12.000 No, here's the effing news. 1.00

00:54:15.000 No, here's the fucking news. 1.00

00:54:20.000 Convenience! That's what the digital dollar will offer us. 1.00

00:54:24.000 Convenience!

00:54:25.000 And it certainly won't mean that our money tap gets turned off at any moment

00:54:28.000 if you ever say anything that people don't agree with.

00:54:29.000 They are piloting CBDCs.

00:54:34.000 The digital dollar is on its way.

00:54:36.000 When it was Bitcoin, it was bad.

00:54:38.000 Now that it's Britcoin, it's fantastic.

00:54:40.000 130 countries are ready to launch their own forms of CBDCs.

00:54:45.000 And many of us have been fascinated by cryptocurrencies for a little while now.

00:54:49.000 But in In many cases, that was because they were decentralized opportunities for us to trade without central regulatory authorities stepping in, taxing, controlling, limiting, mitigating, directing.

00:55:01.000 Guess what they've done now?

00:55:02.000 They're seizing control of cryptocurrencies.

00:55:05.000 Let's have a look at this and see, crucially, if we can stop it.

00:55:09.000 The Federal Reserve Bank of New York's Innovation Center recently concluded a 12-week experiment in cahoots with the banking behemoths such as Citigroup Inc.

00:55:17.000 and Wells Fargo & Co.

00:55:19.000 Now, it sounds to me like the Fed and some powerful private banks have worked out how to monopolize digital currency.

00:55:27.000 I'm sure it's not that, though.

00:55:28.000 Let's have a look.

00:55:29.000 Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell told the House Financial Services Committee in March that the Fed had already begun testing a digital dollar.

00:55:38.000 What we're doing is experimenting in kind of early stage experimentation.

00:55:42.000 How would this work?

00:55:43.000 Does it work?

00:55:44.000 What's the best technology?

00:55:45.000 What's the most efficient?

00:55:46.000 It's really weird because even that isn't quite true, is it?

00:55:49.000 Because it's already proven effective.

00:55:50.000 That's why they're even looking into it.

00:55:52.000 Because of the success of Bitcoin and numerous other cryptocurrencies, let me know in the comments below which ones you're already using.

00:55:58.000 They're like, oh no!

00:55:59.000 We've had the phase where we try and stop it.

00:56:02.000 We've had the phase where we smear it and discredit it.

00:56:04.000 Now we're into the phase where we're going to have to control it.

00:56:07.000 It's a kind of recognisable paradigm.

00:56:09.000 Even though digital currencies are, by their nature, innovative and new, what we're watching now is the colonisation of that space.

00:56:17.000 Oh no, they're going to do it anyway!

00:56:19.000 Quick, get control of it!

00:56:20.000 Smear, discredit, shut down the opponents and get control of it!

00:56:24.000 Just like paper dollars, a central bank digital currency, or CBDC, would be issued by the Federal Reserve.

00:56:32.000 Those pushing for it say it would have several advantages over physical money.

00:56:36.000 They say it could be used to fight inflation because the Fed would have more direct control over the money supply.

00:56:43.000 What I want, at this time more than ever, is for the government and government institutions to have more control over my life than at any point in history.

00:56:51.000 I mean, they're using that power and control so well.

00:56:54.000 It could speed up transaction payments and help fight money laundering.

00:56:58.000 Of course, that would mean that it could facilitate social credit scores.

00:57:02.000 It would mean that the government, like in the trucker protests in Canada, will be able to shut down your bank accounts.

00:57:07.000 There's been claims in the UK that people have had their bank accounts shut down or controlled.

00:57:11.000 Obviously, the fear is that this will be used to grant control that will then be used in judiciously against you.

00:57:18.000 The ability to track transactions has a couple of elements that are very attractive to economic policy makers.

00:57:26.000 One is to know where people are spending their money.

00:57:28.000 I don't want you to know where I'm spending my money.

00:57:30.000 Mind your own business.

00:57:32.000 Backers say the U.S.

00:57:33.000 needs a digital dollar if it wants to remain the world's reserve currency.

00:57:38.000 Opponents warn that it could be a very effective instrument of government control.

00:57:44.000 Physical money has been called one of the last bastions of privacy.

00:57:48.000 Laws like the Bank Secrecy Act have already stripped away most of the privacy from bank

00:57:53.000 accounts and financial transactions.

00:57:56.000 Banks have really a ton of power that people don't realize to shut down accounts, to freeze

00:58:03.000 accounts and to end up holding them for really any number of reasons.

00:58:09.000 Any number of reasons.

00:58:10.000 What's the number?

00:58:11.000 I don't know.

00:58:11.000 I thought you were good with numbers.

00:58:13.000 Nah, numbers isn't my thing.

00:58:14.000 I like control.

00:58:15.000 Currency expert James Rickards says a digital currency would move America closer to a totalitarian state.

00:58:22.000 Good news, everyone!

00:58:24.000 If I buy anything, the government doesn't know it.

00:58:27.000 MasterCard kind of knows it, but even MasterCard uses product codes, so they don't say, you know, Jim bought a Snickers.

00:58:33.000 It says, Jim bought miscellaneous merchandise at a retail place.

00:58:37.000 So the government doesn't know what you're doing.

00:58:38.000 That's interesting.

00:58:39.000 It's yet another way where your private transactions will be tracked, where the information will be bundled up and traded.

00:58:44.000 It sort of seems irresistible to them, doesn't it?

00:58:46.000 Whether it's a commercial entity or a state entity to use data to facilitate control.

00:58:51.000 Private commercial entities will use the data to advertise.

00:58:55.000 You like Snickers, do you, Jim?

00:58:56.000 How about a great big Snickers?

00:58:58.000 Snickers are on sale.

00:58:59.000 How about a Snickers bedspread and a Snickers lunchbox? 1.00

00:59:02.000 How about a Snickers straight up your ass? 0.99

00:59:04.000 And the government will be like, if you want this guy to do as you told, put a trail of Snickers that lead him into this iron box! 0.99

00:59:11.000 With this new central bank digital currency, they will, because they maintain the ledger.

00:59:16.000 So if I buy, you know, Ron DeSantis' new book, or go to a Donald Trump rally, or whatever it may be... That's a confusing morning.

00:59:23.000 The government using artificial intelligence and having that information, which they would, are able to profile you.

00:59:29.000 They say, well, this guy kind of looks like a conservative and maybe he's MAGA.

00:59:33.000 And then you've got a target on your back.

00:59:35.000 Once upon a time, the state had to go through a convoluted dance of data capture in order to get your commercial and private information that social media and private entities had already captured and bundled.

00:59:46.000 Now they'll be able to directly track what you're doing because the currency itself is observable.

00:59:51.000 monitorable, they'll know exactly what you're doing and of course presumably be

00:59:56.000 able to prevent it. Where we've been for a while now is the behemoth social media

01:00:00.000 entities have had that data, they've had that information, they understand how

01:00:05.000 long your eyes are lingering on a particular picture, what you've clicked

01:00:09.000 on, where you've gone, what you've searched, all that stuff is evidently

01:00:12.000 being corralled, curated, put together, bundled and sold in a way that's

01:00:16.000 incomprehensible to all but the most literate of us in these new digital

01:00:21.000 The new precipice that's appearing is that the state and social media are cooperating and conspiring to a degree on how that information is used.

01:00:30.000 And now what's happening is it's being converged and become concomitant with trade and expenditure.

01:00:36.000 Ultimately, that means you can be totally excluded.

01:00:39.000 Excluded from society, I think.

01:00:40.000 Doesn't it mean that?

01:00:41.000 I mean, let me know in the comments.

01:00:42.000 They'll be able to say, oh, this person went here, went there, does this, does that.

01:00:45.000 I don't think they should be able to participate in elections.

01:00:47.000 Last year, a Canadian court froze millions of dollars raised for truckers blocking roads to protest COVID-19 vaccine mandates.

01:00:56.000 When we talk about a globalist new order, a totalitarian state, even I, schooled as I am thanks to you, in the world of avant-garde conspiracy theory meets conspiracy fact, even I sometimes think these words seem ridiculous and these ideas seem implausible.

01:01:14.000 We've already witnessed, as this news report responsibly observes, in Canada, bank accounts being frozen, transactions being prevented.

01:01:22.000 Now what we're seeing is a further facility to do that.

01:01:25.000 The old adage, that even to me seemed to make a kind of sense, if you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to fear, is becoming irrelevant because they decide what's meant by something to hide.

01:01:37.000 You know, you and I might think, well, I'm not a paedophile.

01:01:40.000 I'm not a monster.

01:01:42.000 But they might decide, no, we don't like those views.

01:01:44.000 We don't like those opinions.

01:01:45.000 We don't like your affiliations with this media group.

01:01:48.000 We don't like the way you spend money on that.

01:01:50.000 So there's no agreed upon something to hide.

01:01:53.000 That category can be shifted at will.

01:01:56.000 When the Pakistani government was faced with almost nonstop protests last year, it threatened to switch off the bank accounts of the protesters.

01:02:05.000 Just think for a moment, that's a country like Canada, who are meant to be, if you're like me, anglophonic or North European, these kind of advanced post-colonial civilisations.

01:02:16.000 That's a bastion country, Canada, isn't it?

01:02:18.000 It's not even tarnished in the way that the British Empire is or the United States of America are, with being a great big force of injustice.

01:02:24.000 Of course, Canada's got its own history when it comes to colonialism or whatever, but it's kind of neutral and kind.

01:02:29.000 They impose those kind of measures.

01:02:30.000 And then you've got a country like Pakistan, a post-imperial nation that was messed up by our country, Britain, that's Islamic, identifiably and observably, and is sometimes spoken of as being from another world, another time, third world, or whatever language people use these days. 0.96

01:02:45.000 And both of them are doing the same thing.

01:02:48.000 Can you not observe now that the tendency and the trend will be further and further cooperation between these territories, the establishment of a global elite that have their own treaties to protect one another, and the rest of us just become chattel.

01:03:00.000 Just observable blobs.

01:03:02.000 Increasingly unable to determine what can be said, what can be purchased, where we can go.

01:03:09.000 It's all going to be justified.

01:03:10.000 No one's ever going to go on your TV now and just with charisma and a moustache tell you, do as we say.

01:03:15.000 They don't want to do that anymore.

01:03:16.000 They're beyond that. 0.90

01:03:17.000 They're at the point where it's going to be for your safety, for your convenience, sit still and shut up.

01:03:24.000 A digital dollar could not only be switched off, the Fed would be able to force negative interest rates on Americans if it wanted them to spend more, penalising savers.

01:03:35.000 They'll be able to influence what your money is worth.

01:03:38.000 You'll see that your money is suddenly worthless.

01:03:40.000 Hold on a minute.

01:03:40.000 That money, that $100 I had, is now only $50, $40.

01:03:44.000 Spend!

01:03:45.000 Almost everything that we have regarded as solid is becoming diffuse, nebulous and peculiar.

01:03:53.000 I am a person that's very open when it comes to the way that a person might identify.

01:03:57.000 I think it's the business of the individual.

01:03:59.000 But categories are shifting and melting away.

01:04:02.000 I've got my money in the bank.

01:04:03.000 Oh no you don't.

01:04:04.000 I know what is possible to save based on my own intentions.

01:04:07.000 Uh uh uh no you didn't.

01:04:09.000 I'm able to go here or travel or teach my children.

01:04:13.000 I'm afraid not sir.

01:04:14.000 Everything is up for question.

01:04:16.000 There's a kind of mad and destabilizing nihilism in that.

01:04:19.000 If you think how we evolved to live, I'm not talking about right and wrong.

01:04:22.000 Those are difficult concepts for anybody to grasp, even though we all have our personal understanding of what they are.

01:04:26.000 But what I'm talking about is evolution.

01:04:28.000 For hundreds of thousands of years, possibly longer, we lived in small groups where you basically knew everyone, and you knew that our shared objective was to survive.

01:04:36.000 This meant it was sensible to look after one another, it was sensible to have a relationship with the environment that was convivial, and also we Pre-industrialization and pre-agriculture, that's not even a matter for discussion.

01:04:46.000 It's just an ordinary harmony that exists.

01:04:49.000 Now we're in a space where everything is shifting.

01:04:52.000 No one knows who they are, or what they are, or what's right and wrong, or what it's okay to say, or where it's okay to go, and what's good and what's bad.

01:04:58.000 Where one minute we're being told it's perfectly safe to do this, then we learn it wasn't safe.

01:05:01.000 That you have to stay in your home for these reasons, but actually that wasn't a good idea.

01:05:05.000 That you have to stand this far apart from other people, but that was actually just made up on the spot.

01:05:09.000 Can you see That there is no one in this world that you should be granting that degree of authority to.

01:05:14.000 No one.

01:05:15.000 No one has that right.

01:05:16.000 No one has that understanding.

01:05:17.000 It's impossible to have that understanding.

01:05:19.000 On the bank to bank level, a real-time payment system called FedNow is expected to begin in July.

01:05:26.000 It's not a digital currency, but an upgrade to what some call our antiquated banking system.

01:05:32.000 The FedNow service is an instant payments infrastructure that financial institutions can use to clear and settle payments instantly.

01:05:40.000 Large bank deposits will be expected to clear much faster than they do now.

01:05:45.000 Oh, dear old Kevin, just patiently standing there in his baker's outfit, little knowing that his bakery is going to be shut down if he dares to do anything that the government disapproves of.

01:05:53.000 Oh, look, I can instantly be... That's right, Kevin.

01:05:56.000 Put in jail for having a belief that we didn't like.

01:05:59.000 I'm just trying to make cakes.

01:06:01.000 I don't like cake.

01:06:02.000 Let's see how far along the line to Armageddon we are, then.

01:06:05.000 A total of 130 countries representing 98% of the global economy.

01:06:09.000 Let's migrate to that little 2%! 1.00

01:06:10.000 They're now exploring digital versions of their currencies with almost half in advanced development, pilot or launch stages are closely followed study shows.

01:06:19.000 Almost half are piloting or launching.

01:06:22.000 That means it's almost irresistible at this point.

01:06:25.000 The global push for CBDCs comes as physical cash use falls and authorities look to fend off the threat to their money printing powers from Bitcoin and big tech firms.

01:06:34.000 This is like what's happening elsewhere online.

01:06:37.000 The potential to free yourself exists, so they exert.

01:06:41.000 The potential in independent media is to make mainstream media redundant.

01:06:45.000 Oh no, they don't need us anymore, they're just talking to each other! 1.00

01:06:48.000 Shit! 1.00

01:06:48.000 Ah! 1.00

01:06:48.000 Shut that down! 1.00

01:06:49.000 Censorship!

01:06:50.000 Do what you gotta do!

01:06:51.000 Say it's hate speech everywhere!

01:06:52.000 Same thing's happening with currency.

01:06:53.000 Oh my god, they're just trading with each other!

01:06:55.000 They're doing stuff all around the world!

01:06:56.000 They're making our nations, our laws, our rules irrelevant!

01:07:00.000 Quick! 1.00

01:07:00.000 Oh god, do something! 1.00

01:07:01.000 CBDCs.

01:07:01.000 Well, obviously you can't trust these ones.

01:07:03.000 These ones are pirate rogue ones.

01:07:05.000 They're bad for the environment.

01:07:06.000 They'll kind of have something to say about the pre-existing ones, so you have to use them, but they'll make it illegal, basically, to use anything except theirs, and then they'll shut you down if they don't like you.

01:07:13.000 A digital version of the British Pound may feature a way to verify the holder's age and citizenship status, potentially smoothing the purchase of alcohol and tobacco in transactions with government agencies.

01:07:23.000 The clues for how it will be used are already evident, because all it should be is a digital replica of a physical object.

01:07:33.000 Oh, should we just add that we know how, uh, old you are and what your citizenship status is?

01:07:38.000 Oh, yeah, I suppose that's no trouble.

01:07:39.000 And also, we could know how healthy you are and what you believe in.

01:07:43.000 Oh, yeah, that would be convenient, I suppose.

01:07:45.000 And whether you took your medicine, just, you know, so we can be sure that you're healthy.

01:07:49.000 And also, we could have little photographs of you.

01:07:49.000 Okay!

01:07:54.000 The Bank of England has hired digital payments platform Nugget to develop the digital currency's privacy and identity features as policy makers step up preparations for the currency dubbed Britcoin.

01:08:05.000 One R and suddenly it's all fine.

01:08:07.000 Nugget's Chief Executive Officer Alistair Johnson Said that he regrets the name of Nuggets.

01:08:13.000 Said that its technology would allow verification of a person's citizenship and for purchasing age-restricted products such as alcohol and cigarettes.

01:08:20.000 These are the things that we all sort of basically agreed on.

01:08:22.000 Like, children shouldn't smoke.

01:08:24.000 Except for that little Vietnamese kid. 1.00

01:08:26.000 I loved him.

01:08:26.000 The two-year-old puffing hungrily on cigarette after cigarette.

01:08:30.000 They sort of slip in.

01:08:32.000 You don't want kids smoking.

01:08:33.000 No, I suppose not.

01:08:34.000 Right, we're gonna lock you in your house for ten years.

01:08:36.000 Like, that is just sort of suddenly you've agreed to something.

01:08:39.000 Social media platforms like TikTok and Snapchat will face possible shutdowns when they don't crack down on problematic content during riots under the European Union's Content Law Digital Service Act, Internal Commissioner Thierry Breton said on Monday.

01:08:52.000 And what are they rioting about at the moment?

01:08:54.000 passing laws that do not have the consensus of the French population that

01:08:57.000 advantage globalist intentions rather than the ordinary population of France.

01:09:03.000 They won't be able to discuss that on social media platforms. So censorship laws will

01:09:07.000 prevent conversation. Digital currency laws will prevent transaction. It's a

01:09:11.000 conspiracy theory that we're looking for social credit score.

01:09:13.000 Well what are these two pieces of legislation then that could be used for that?

01:09:18.000 What's the recent memory of the pandemic where it's already been admitted that it was mishandled, that there was an overreach of the state, that whether intentionally or not, advantaged corporate and state interest.

01:09:28.000 Now you've got new tools that mean that your errors, let's call them errors, that your errors would be more profound and yet more compounded.

01:09:36.000 Breton, a French politician, was responding in a French radio interview to comments by French President Emmanuel Macron that floated closing down some social media to clamp down on riots.

01:09:46.000 The reason they're riots is because people are unhappy.

01:09:48.000 That's why it's important that us, us lot, don't go, oh that's an insurrection that one, oh I don't like that one, because you don't agree with the issue.

01:09:55.000 You have to say, if people are protesting, what are they protesting for?

01:09:59.000 Is there a conversation that needs to be had?

01:10:01.000 Whether it's being BLM, whether it's trans issues, whether it's January 6th.

01:10:04.000 If we have the common sense, the open hearts, the open minds to go, even if I disagree with the issue, I'm going to listen to what they're saying, because otherwise what's going to happen is the state are going to use this to shut down protest, and then they'll use it how they want.

01:10:16.000 It might not be Canadian truckers next time.

01:10:19.000 It might not be George Floyd next time.

01:10:20.000 It might not be your issue.

01:10:22.000 Eventually, they're coming for all of us, is the truth.

01:10:25.000 Some critics likened this to measures seen in authoritarian states like China and Iran.

01:10:30.000 I think the time where we're saying authoritarian states like China and Iran is over.

01:10:33.000 Now it's authoritarian states like all of them.

01:10:35.000 When there is hateful content, content that calls for example for revolt, that's not hateful, that's political, that's not hateful.

01:10:42.000 What if in China they went we should overthrow the Chinese state? 0.95

01:10:45.000 Oh well that's sensible.

01:10:47.000 Okay, well Let's look at the points of difference between Chinese authoritarianism and British or US authoritarianism.

01:10:53.000 I know, personally, I would rather live here than Russia. 1.00

01:10:55.000 Let's get that out there.

01:10:56.000 But what I'm saying is, is we're on a scale.

01:10:58.000 And the way that we prevent that scale sliding in the wrong direction is preserving free speech, individual liberty, control over finance, the ability for communities to determine how they live, what their religious credo is.

01:11:08.000 These things are just vital and necessary and they shouldn't be being discussed.

01:11:11.000 They're also cause for killing and burning of cars.

01:11:13.000 They will be required to delete the content immediately.

01:11:16.000 This is literally what happens in hypnosis and neuro-linguistic programming.

01:11:20.000 Two verifiables followed by a suggestion, right?

01:11:23.000 You don't want people killing, of course not.

01:11:25.000 You don't want people burning cars, of course not.

01:11:27.000 And revolt is bad.

01:11:28.000 Uh, what?

01:11:28.000 What was the last one again?

01:11:29.000 You know, killing, burning, revolt. 0.84

01:11:31.000 Revolt's not the same as killing and burning cars. 0.97

01:11:33.000 What you've done there, you're conflating dissent with killing and burning.

01:11:36.000 That means dissent becomes, well, that's the same as setting fire to a car.

01:11:40.000 It's not the same to say, I disagree with you, I want to vote on that, our community wants to be outside of that ruling, what about my individual autonomy?

01:11:47.000 What do you mean it's good to burn people's cars?

01:11:50.000 I didn't say that!

01:11:51.000 Legally you did, it's the same bill.

01:11:52.000 Breton said in the interview on France Info, citing the Digital Services Act which will impose new requirements on large platforms from August 25.

01:12:00.000 So they're noticing the capacity for social media platforms to allow dissent, or to permit dissent because it's free speech, they're looking at ways of shutting that down.

01:12:09.000 Digital currency here, censorship there, stuck in the middle of you.

01:12:12.000 If they fail to do so, they will be immediately sanctioned.

01:12:15.000 We have teams who can intervene immediately, he said.

01:12:18.000 If they don't act immediately, then yes, at that point, we'll be able not only to impose a fine, but also to ban the operation of the platforms on our territory.

01:12:25.000 This Breton geezer, have a look at him.

01:12:28.000 They will.

01:12:28.000 Respect the law.

01:12:29.000 He looks like your nan, doesn't he?

01:12:31.000 He basically looks like a grandmother. 0.99

01:12:33.000 He looks like Colonel Sanders without the balls to grow the beard. 0.99

01:12:36.000 But look how he's talking like Tony Soprano. 0.99

01:12:38.000 We got people.

01:12:39.000 People's gonna come round.

01:12:41.000 They'll shut down your platform.

01:12:42.000 You're gonna do what we say.

01:12:43.000 Hold on a minute, mate.

01:12:44.000 Aren't you like a French bureaucrat?

01:12:46.000 19 very large online platforms including TikTok, Snapchat, Instagram and Twitter will have to comply with new legal obligations to limit the spread of illegal and harmful content from next month.

01:12:56.000 Platforms with over 45 million users in the EU will also have to hand the Commission a first detailed assessment of their major risks for users.

01:13:03.000 They risk potential fines of up to 6% of their global revenue.

01:13:06.000 Do you now see where we are?

01:13:08.000 It appears that centralist institutions, both financial and communicative, are further cooperating in order to shut down individual freedom.

01:13:18.000 This is why I suppose we find ourselves in the complicated position of supporting, in particular, the free speech and freedom of people that we disagree with.

01:13:28.000 Ideas that you don't agree with are more important than the ones you do agree with.

01:13:32.000 Do you see?

01:13:32.000 Because otherwise they will use your natural inclinations, or your, not even natural, your current inclinations, preferences and tendencies to legitimize more censorship and more control.

01:13:42.000 This is no longer a conspiracy theory.

01:13:45.000 This is a conspiracy fact.

01:13:46.000 When it was Bitcoin and those other cryptocurrencies that you lot are well into, they were like, Oh no, hold on, this is bad, this is illegal, it's bad for the environment.

01:13:53.000 Now they're doing it themselves because they don't have any principles.

01:13:57.000 Cluster bombs are bad, cluster bombs are good.

01:13:59.000 Cluster bombs are bad, cluster bombs are good.

01:14:02.000 Nothing makes any sense to them except more dominion, more control, more power, more money.

01:14:06.000 And in order for them to do that, they have to shut down your financial freedom.

01:14:10.000 They have to shut down your free speech freedom.

01:14:11.000 They have to shut down your freedom to move around.

01:14:14.000 These are the lines that have to be drawn in the sand.

01:14:17.000 These are the issues you have to stand firm on.

01:14:19.000 We will not be able to do it if we're devoted to individual preference and individual prejudice.

01:14:23.000 We must, must overcome our individual prejudice in order to stand firm together.

01:14:30.000 But that's just what I think.

01:14:32.000 Until next time, stay free.

01:14:40.000 Many switches, switch on, switch off.

Stay Free - Russel Brand - July 17, 2023

BEAR GRYLLS & RUSSELL BRAND: How To Survive The APOCALYPSE - Stay Free #169

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