Stay Free - Russel Brand - BLACKROCK CORRUPTION EXPOSED!! Video Sting Goes VIRAL - #151 - Stay Free With Russell Brand

00:00:00.000 In this video, I'm going In this video, you're going to see the future.

00:00:38.000 Hey! 0.99

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00:00:51.000 Welcome to today's show.

00:00:53.000 What a show we've got.

00:00:55.000 We'll be talking to James O'Keefe in a minute about his Black Rock Corruption expose.

00:01:00.000 I think he was just on Crowder.

00:01:02.000 We've just got him.

00:01:04.000 We've wrangled him over from Crowder.

00:01:05.000 I think he agreed to come on ours first.

00:01:07.000 Did he?

00:01:08.000 I think so.

00:01:09.000 The very fact that we can share content.

00:01:12.000 What an extraordinary world we're living in.

00:01:14.000 The bidding war for JFK.

00:01:17.000 Not JFK.

00:01:18.000 That's going to be expensive.

00:01:19.000 RFK.

00:01:21.000 Who's funding that debate? 0.99

00:01:22.000 RFK versus Hortes is skyrocketing.

00:01:26.000 It's into the millions and I can exclusively announce we are going to put £10 into that fund.

00:01:34.000 Let's get that debate happening.

00:01:36.000 That should do it.

00:01:37.000 That should do it.

00:01:38.000 Hotez debating RFK on vaccine efficacy. 0.97

00:01:42.000 We are still on YouTube.

00:01:44.000 Later on, we're going to be talking to Dr. Mark Hyman.

00:01:46.000 He's going to help us to expose the medical-industrial complex.

00:01:50.000 You name it these days, they've got an industrial complex.

00:01:53.000 There's the censorship-industrial complex. 0.68

00:01:55.000 On tomorrow, I'm going to be talking to Schellenberger and Taibbi, those couple of showboating charlatans.

00:02:02.000 I'll be talking to them about censorship, and we'll be broadcasting that soon exclusively on Rumble.

00:02:07.000 Our main story that we're focusing on, and you're going to need to click Rumble in the link if you're watching us on YouTube to see us get deep.

00:02:14.000 With this particular subject is the Black Rock revelatory video.

00:02:17.000 Now, of course, James O'Keefe, he's famous for his performance in Oklahoma.

00:02:22.000 He's famous for his expose of a former farmer worker, in particular a Pfizer worker's revelations around, you know, stuff we can't talk about on YouTube.

00:02:32.000 Well he's gone and done it again, this time it's with Blackrock.

00:02:35.000 Now what we're interested in here is the fact that these kind of stories, in particular a story that appears to suggest that you can purchase political power through donations, Bribery.

00:02:51.000 You let me know in the comments and chat what word you think is appropriate.

00:02:53.000 If you're watching us on Rumble, by the way, why don't you click the red button.

00:02:56.000 Join us over on Locals right now.

00:02:58.000 Join all these people.

00:03:00.000 Yes, a lot of you are focusing on James O'Keefe's performance in Oklahoma.

00:03:04.000 A lot of people really like that.

00:03:06.000 It's pretty extraordinary.

00:03:07.000 What we know about Black They're the third largest economic entity in the world.

00:03:13.000 We bought you a fantastic story about how they've done a deal with Ukraine to rebuild Ukraine after the war, setting up corporate contracts, construction contracts.

00:03:24.000 We know that BlackRock is an extraordinarily powerful entity, so these allegations that BlackRock engage in the...

00:03:34.000 But, you know, potentially bribery and bias, acquiring biases from, shall we say, participants in the political game is potentially groundbreaking.

00:03:42.000 One of the things we wanted to point out that the individual, the individual subject, the guy that's, you know, the recipient of the sting there, the person who's, like, made these revelations, he's not really important.

00:03:51.000 Do you agree with me?

00:03:52.000 Because haven't you just always known that?

00:03:54.000 Isn't it a little bit like the Epstein story?

00:03:56.000 Even though you're astonished to learn that all these powerful figures apparently have

00:03:59.000 relationships with Epstein and been on his jets and have been on his list and have had

00:04:02.000 all these chats and have accepted his money and have lobbied for him to donate to their

00:04:06.000 campaign funds, including the woman that was criticising dear Taibbi and Schellenberger.

00:04:12.000 It's a confirmation of what we already suspect is true.

00:04:16.000 All economic entities bypass democratic process in order to pursue their agenda.

00:04:22.000 Let me know if it's simply a confirmation of what you know to be true.

00:04:24.000 Nevertheless, let's have a look.

00:04:26.000 Me and Gareth Roy here, my on screen assistant, will be breaking down this story and analysing

00:04:33.000 the true power of BlackRock and the veracity of these claims.

00:04:38.000 Also, will you see this?

00:04:39.000 Let me know in the chat if you think you're going to see this story on.

00:04:41.000 on CNN. Let me know if you think you're going to see this story on MSNBC. Why don't they

00:04:46.000 cover these stories? Do you think BlackRock might own some shares in Comcast maybe? Do

00:04:52.000 you think that's a possibility? Let's have a look at the video that's causing all these

00:04:57.000 trending contra- the contra-tomps right now. Let's have a look.

00:05:02.000 All of these financial institutions, they buy politicians. 0.91

00:05:05.000 You can take this big f*** ton of money, and then you can start... These whistleblowers are getting younger, aren't they?

00:05:12.000 Look at that buddy boy Jack Texera, the Pentagon Papers lad.

00:05:15.000 How old was he?

00:05:16.000 19?

00:05:16.000 20?

00:05:16.000 Who's giving them these jobs and access to all of this stuff?

00:05:20.000 Well, I don't know.

00:05:21.000 I have no idea.

00:05:21.000 I mean, I don't know if you can call him a whistleblower.

00:05:23.000 Maybe an inadvertent whistleblower.

00:05:24.000 Oh, he's not blowing a whistle.

00:05:25.000 He's definitely not doing that.

00:05:26.000 It's like someone who accidentally whistles when they talk.

00:05:28.000 He's about the age of Bad Graphics Jack, isn't he?

00:05:28.000 Right.

00:05:31.000 Yeah, those people that when they talk go, shh, shh, does that happen?

00:05:34.000 Yeah, you know my black tracks, shh. 0.95

00:05:35.000 They've got a gap in their teeth. 0.89

00:05:37.000 Black tracks, shh.

00:05:38.000 Of course, they're giving a lot of money to me.

00:05:41.000 You're inadvertently blowing a whistle today.

00:05:42.000 I didn't know he was filming that!

00:05:44.000 To find people.

00:05:46.000 I work for a company called BlackRock.

00:05:48.000 Let me tell you it's not their who's the president is.

00:05:50.000 It's who's controlling the wallet.

00:05:52.000 Who's the president?

00:05:54.000 You can tell he's young because that's the sort of thing you say when you're like

00:05:56.000 Hey guess what man?

00:05:59.000 Thanksgiving is a celebration of stealing the country from the native people! 1.00

00:06:04.000 Black Rock!

00:06:05.000 They're the bad guys in all of us!

00:06:06.000 And you know he's talking to a woman, the lady operating this sting is a woman, so he's blatantly trying to impress her with language like that.

00:06:12.000 I talk to Black Rock.

00:06:13.000 I pull all the strings back there.

00:06:15.000 I actually am establishing some deals right now with Zelensky.

00:06:18.000 Oh, he's on the phone now.

00:06:20.000 Hold on, I think there's a problem with the line.

00:06:23.000 Oh no, that is him!

00:06:24.000 Yeah, you get the idea.

00:06:25.000 Should we have a look?

00:06:26.000 And who's that?

00:06:27.000 The hedge funds, minecraft, the banks, these guys.

00:06:29.000 Yes, so it's the financial...

00:06:31.000 And who's that?

00:06:32.000 The hedge funds, the banks, these guys run the bank.

00:06:36.000 Campaign financing.

00:06:38.000 Yep, you can buy your candidates.

00:06:41.000 I don't actually, I don't want to focus on the lad, because he's just some lad.

00:06:45.000 He's just working in recruitment, isn't he?

00:06:47.000 I'm just gonna buy it, and give you 500k.

00:06:49.000 He's a little bragger, didn't he? I don't actually, I don't want to focus on the lad,

00:06:52.000 because he's just some lad, he's just working in recruitment, isn't he? He's not actually

00:06:56.000 the leader of Blackrock. No, it's not Larry Fink. It's not Larry Fink out there.

00:07:00.000 Larry Fink would keep his mouth shut.

00:07:01.000 I imagine he knows what he's doing, dear old Larry Fink.

00:07:04.000 What will happen, I suppose, and let me know in the comments in the chat, join us on Rumble, press the red button, is that BlackRock will deny the credibility of the story, say that they're not really associated with him, it'll become a tribalised debate and argument, and the mainstream media won't report on it.

00:07:18.000 That's primarily what will happen, and those of us that have long suspected that politicians can be acquired through money will continue to believe that, and people that Sort of just want things to basically stay the same, won't bother to interrogate the subject.

00:07:33.000 Together, BlackRock and Vanguard own 18% of Fox News, perhaps that's why it's not getting covered, 16% of CBS, 13% of Comcast, which owns MSNBC and CNBC.

00:07:42.000 The very fact that those three entities are owned by one conglomeration is interesting, isn't it?

00:07:48.000 And the Sky Media Group, that's in our country, 12% of CNN, 12% of Disney.

00:07:52.000 That's a considerable amount of media influence.

00:07:56.000 Is that too much?

00:07:57.000 When we talk about Duopolies in politics and big tech.

00:08:00.000 When we talk about monopolies, when we talk about globalism, do you imagine that this is a contributory factor?

00:08:06.000 Are you surprised by these revelations?

00:08:08.000 And let us know what your questions are for James O'Keefe.

00:08:11.000 He'll be turning up here.

00:08:12.000 He's probably warming up his voice even now, gargling salt water, getting ready to bang out some show tunes for us.

00:08:19.000 Have you got something to say about all of this, Gareth?

00:08:22.000 It gets really interesting when he starts talking about the war in Ukraine as well.

00:08:25.000 Oh, he's going to talk about the war in Ukraine now?

00:08:26.000 Because it's one thing turning a profit from a little bit of corruption and buying domestic politicians.

00:08:32.000 I think most of us assume that's the case already.

00:08:34.000 We're weary with their corruption.

00:08:36.000 But if wars are being created, provoked, prolonged in order to generate profit, is that a big story?

00:08:43.000 Should we care?

00:08:44.000 Have you lost the ability to care?

00:08:45.000 Do you care?

00:08:47.000 Right now, the question is asked.

00:08:48.000 Identity needs to be done.

00:08:49.000 Does, like, everybody do that?

00:08:50.000 Does Black Rock do that?

00:08:58.000 I'm in charge of the government, actually.

00:09:00.000 I'm in control of this.

00:09:01.000 See these chopsticks of mine?

00:09:02.000 I use that to control governments.

00:09:03.000 He's gone a bit carried away.

00:09:04.000 You haven't got a pocket!

00:09:05.000 Where is that?

00:09:06.000 Is that even a pocket?

00:09:07.000 Who has got a pocket?

00:09:08.000 The journalist you're talking to.

00:09:10.000 Everything is being recorded.

00:09:12.000 I do feel sorry for that because he's just presumably a normal sort of low-level drone worker recruiting for Blackrock.

00:09:19.000 This is not the epicentre of global corruption here.

00:09:23.000 It's just one of the many denizens of a habitat of pure corruption that all of us know exists by now.

00:09:29.000 Absolutely.

00:09:30.000 Yeah, he's reporting on the culture, not about his just singular behaviour.

00:09:33.000 Yeah, it's a little bit like Hortense.

00:09:36.000 Is that his name?

00:09:36.000 The fellow that won't debate RFK even after we've not heard about my 10 quid yet.

00:09:41.000 That's not what's important.

00:09:42.000 What's important is a culture of censorship, a culture of surveillance, a culture of smearing dissenters.

00:09:48.000 That's what's significant.

00:09:49.000 Can't target individuals.

00:09:51.000 What's the point?

00:09:52.000 We're talking about systemic change here.

00:09:54.000 It's good for business in general.

00:09:57.000 I'll give an example.

00:09:58.000 Russia... 0.54

00:09:59.000 Russia blows up Ukraine's grains.

00:10:01.000 The price of wheat is going to go mad up.

00:10:04.000 The Ukrainian economy is tied very largely to the wheat market.

00:10:09.000 Global wheat market.

00:10:10.000 Prices of bread.

00:10:11.000 You know, literally everything goes up and down.

00:10:16.000 This is fantastic if you're trading.

00:10:18.000 Volatility creates opportunity to make profit.

00:10:21.000 War is no good for business. 0.99

00:10:24.000 It's exciting when shit goes wrong. 0.99

00:10:27.000 People in the chat are disgusted. 0.99

00:10:28.000 Pride Folks, he says he's talking about the destruction of people here.

00:10:32.000 Firegirl2020, this guy's liking kindergarten but I'm glad they're you for catching on.

00:10:37.000 Oh, you've known this for ages, haven't you?

00:10:38.000 You lot.

00:10:39.000 In a way, it's sort of surprising that that's the sort of stuff he chats about on dates.

00:10:43.000 But who here is surprised by that?

00:10:44.000 Let me know in the chat if this is an astonishing revelation or if these are the kind of things you've long assumed if you've known since God, basically the 1960s, that the state operates on behalf of corporate interests.

00:10:56.000 It's a trend that's been getting worse and worse, and you can track it through various administrations, till we reach this point.

00:11:02.000 Corporate gigantism, where democracy becomes almost redundant, where there's no trust in any institutions at all.

00:11:08.000 Not media, not government, not electoral, democracy itself.

00:11:12.000 Are you surprised by these revelations?

00:11:14.000 Do you believe these revelations?

00:11:16.000 What do you think's the most interesting thing about them?

00:11:18.000 I know that what you think is important is the idea that war is being used to mobilise profit.

00:11:22.000 Yeah, I mean, when he's talking there about wheat and Ukraine and how the prices fluctuate due to that and how BlackRock can profit from that, I mean, we know that that's happening anyway.

00:11:30.000 We know that the kind of food crisis is going on in the US and in the UK or across Europe at the moment.

00:11:36.000 It's to do with the price gouging of companies that are using the opportunity for war to charge people more.

00:11:41.000 For the daily products that they buy.

00:11:43.000 That is something that goes on and that the companies that do it lobby Congress.

00:11:48.000 They spend millions lobbying Congress to mean that Biden and the rest of the government don't do anything about it.

00:11:54.000 You know, when it comes to another element of the war, weapons, I mean that some of the largest weapons companies in the world, Raytheon and Lockheed Martin, have been since the start of the Ukraine war bragging to investors that tensions between the countries are good for business.

00:12:08.000 BIA systems have gone up 32%, Lockheed Martin have gone up 14%.

00:12:12.000 These aren't, I guess, you know, it's interesting to see someone actually on camera admitting it, but these things are things that we already know about through just literally what's happening.

00:12:22.000 ApologeticPest says in the locals chat, I'm not sure why we're watching some clip of a smug millennial talking, eating Chinese food and talking about wheat shortages.

00:12:31.000 We are a hardened and skeptical crew, aren't we?

00:12:34.000 Because we are Awakening Wonders.

00:12:36.000 And if you're watching us now on YouTube, click the link in the description.

00:12:40.000 Join us over on Rumble.

00:12:42.000 James O'Keefe, who broke this story, is going to be joining us in just a few minutes.

00:12:48.000 And you can post your questions for him here in the chat, and we'll ask him some stuff that I suppose takes him to the very limit of his capabilities.

00:12:55.000 Yeah, the other element, obviously, what we're talking about here is that kind of collusion between government and company, massive corporate companies like BlackRock.

00:13:01.000 when we come to the Ukraine reconstruction and BlackRock's part in that.

00:13:05.000 So it says here, there's an article by Caitlin Johnson, critics have complained that BlackRock's new role in

00:13:09.000 Ukraine could draw accusations of corruption

00:13:12.000 with some noting that the company's managing director, Eric Van Norstrand, was hired straight

00:13:17.000 into a senior advisory position in the Biden administration's treasury department

00:13:20.000 just this past August, explicitly to shape US economic policy on Russia and

00:13:26.000 Ukraine.

00:13:27.000 So there is a literal link between BlackRock and the Biden administration

00:13:31.000 in terms of their strategy towards Ukraine, in terms of the reconstruction of Ukraine.

00:13:35.000 They all know what's happening and they're all involved.

00:13:37.000 So are you astonished by these revelations or is it merely a confirmation

00:13:40.000 of what you have long suspected?

00:13:42.000 What's next?

00:13:43.000 What is it going to take?

00:13:45.000 What level, degree of revelation would it require for you to stop participating in this model?

00:13:51.000 Yet another story that demonstrates ties between the media, the military-industrial complex, the government.

00:13:58.000 It's, I guess, I suppose at this point it's difficult to maintain anything other than Vague disappointment.

00:14:05.000 Listen, we're gonna leave you now because James O'Keefe, is James O'Keefe there?

00:14:08.000 Let's just have a look at him on YouTube.

00:14:10.000 He's the sort of person that gets YouTube strikes, I would imagine.

00:14:12.000 Yeah, no, look at him.

00:14:14.000 He's got his backdrop.

00:14:14.000 He's there.

00:14:15.000 His shirt's too undone.

00:14:16.000 For God's sake, James.

00:14:18.000 Right, listen.

00:14:19.000 If you want to see James undo another button, simply press the link in the description and join us over on Rumble.

00:14:27.000 We'll be talking to Dr. Mark Hyman a little later.

00:14:29.000 Plus, what's our presentation today?

00:14:32.000 Peter Hotez.

00:14:33.000 Ah, Peter Hotez, we're covering that story in some depth.

00:14:36.000 You're keen to talk on YouTube, are you, James?

00:14:37.000 Look it, I can see him warming up.

00:14:38.000 He's licking his lips with anticipation.

00:14:41.000 He's probably going to break another story.

00:14:42.000 Now, remember, we're on YouTube, so don't say anything too controversial before we go over on Rumble.

00:14:45.000 Do you want to say something, James, or are you going to do a few bars of Oklahoma?

00:14:48.000 I mean, I've been saying poor Judd is dead last time I sang the opening, the title sequence.

00:14:53.000 Just give us, yeah, do a little bit.

00:14:54.000 I think that's what drives people from YouTube to Rumble.

00:14:57.000 Let's give it a go.

00:14:59.000 Poor Judd is dead, poor Judd Fry is dead.

00:15:04.000 Gather round his coffin now and cry.

00:15:07.000 There you go.

00:15:09.000 That was a way.

00:15:09.000 Whoever was backing you on your former channel, their money, I think it was well invested.

00:15:14.000 Absolutely.

00:15:14.000 I wouldn't call that corruption.

00:15:16.000 No.

00:15:17.000 If singing like that is a crime, you can lock me up and throw away the key.

00:15:21.000 You can call me Hunter Biden, baby.

00:15:23.000 Allegedly. 0.94

00:15:24.000 Because I'm as criminal as they come.

00:15:26.000 Join us over on... I think he's pleaded guilty.

00:15:30.000 It's a plea bargain, right?

00:15:31.000 I don't think we've said anything wrong there.

00:15:33.000 That's fine.

00:15:33.000 I think that's okay.

00:15:34.000 As you can see, things are hotting up.

00:15:34.000 Okay, all right, listen.

00:15:36.000 O'Keefe's singing show tunes.

00:15:38.000 Let's go over here and expose some deep corruption and bring about a spiritual revolution.

00:15:43.000 We're also going to be talking about...

00:15:46.000 The newest Rumble participant, RFK.

00:15:50.000 Why won't this debate happen?

00:15:52.000 And if it does happen, you know where it will.

00:15:54.000 Click the link, join us over on Rumble.

00:15:55.000 James, thank you so much for joining us.

00:15:59.000 Now, I noticed that you went on a Crowder show.

00:16:02.000 Would you just do that interview again, but be slightly more salacious and undo a couple of buttons?

00:16:08.000 I thought I was on YouTube.

00:16:09.000 I gotta be careful, right?

00:16:10.000 Oh, you're on Rumble now, baby.

00:16:11.000 This is it.

00:16:12.000 Rumble, baby. 0.91

00:16:12.000 You're at the home of free speech. 0.91

00:16:14.000 Well, we started with poor Judd is dead.

00:16:16.000 So I don't know how to how to top that.

00:16:18.000 But uh, I mean, you say it doesn't shock people.

00:16:21.000 It's confirmed suspicions.

00:16:23.000 But most people this guy says they're asleep. 0.99

00:16:26.000 He says that normal people don't give a shit. 1.00

00:16:28.000 That's what he says. 0.99

00:16:30.000 So I mean, I think we're waking people up with this expose because then you say, well, it's just one guy or one individual, but the organization is made up of individuals.

00:16:40.000 So in order to expose the collective, you have to expose the individual bit by bit and we have more coming.

00:16:46.000 So that's what I would say in response to that.

00:16:48.000 What do you say to when people offer the assessment that Blackrock and Vanguard are such vast financial entities that comprise so many disparate investments that to regard them as a sort of solid conglomerate in the same way you might something like Facebook or Alphabet or whatever is a sort of a misdiagnosis.

00:17:10.000 What is the significance of Blackrock's power and what is the significance of the revelations this young man has made?

00:17:17.000 Well, BlackRock is so significant that when you actually search this video, which this video has hundreds of thousands of likes, tens of millions of views, it's trending on Twitter, you can't actually find the video on Google.

00:17:30.000 And maybe you say, well, Google, BlackRock owns 6.5% of Google, that's $45 billion, of a $1.5 trillion market cap.

00:17:42.000 I didn't even realize how powerful they were when I did that Pfizer story.

00:17:45.000 I didn't realize that if you look at the equity owners of Fox News, And the equity owners of Pfizer, BlackRock owns a significant share of that.

00:17:54.000 With Fox Corporation, it's 18.4%.

00:17:57.000 Disney, 12%.

00:17:58.000 You point out Comcast, 13%.

00:18:00.000 I mean, and this guy says it. 0.77

00:18:02.000 He says, you take this quote, big fuck ton of money and you buy people and you buy senators for relatively little money, $10,000. 0.91

00:18:10.000 That surprised me. 0.98

00:18:11.000 That's not a lot of money to buy a senator.

00:18:13.000 But he says all the things that we suspect to be true.

00:18:17.000 And I think it is waking people up.

00:18:19.000 I think little by little it is.

00:18:20.000 I hope so.

00:18:21.000 Now my sense is that people that are watching us right now on Rumble are already awakening.

00:18:26.000 Press the red button, join us over on Locals, get the neat gear.

00:18:30.000 It is pretty astonishing to learn that Google are able to censor and contain such a revelation.

00:18:38.000 So do you imagine then that there are direct conversations such as were revealed in the Twitter files where the representatives of BlackRock simply contact people at Google and say we'd rather that that search didn't show up.

00:18:50.000 And I suppose that legislation and regulation is always introduced to say protect us from harmful or sexually explicit materials and then they just use that kind of administration to censor essentially.

00:19:03.000 Almost certainly, but they don't get revealed until years later.

00:19:06.000 Like the story we did in 2020.

00:19:08.000 We got some Department of Homeland Security guy emailing the Twitter people, this is before Elon bought the company, saying we need to suppress this James O'Keefe.

00:19:17.000 This stuff comes out years later.

00:19:19.000 But obviously it's happening behind the scenes.

00:19:21.000 I wish I had those conversations on camera.

00:19:23.000 Maybe I will, hint hint.

00:19:25.000 And one of the remarkable things about these videos that we do is we break these stories and it inspires other people Inside BlackRock, even today they're reaching out to me.

00:19:34.000 Some of them are probably trying to sting me, but others actually are giving me information.

00:19:40.000 So it kind of generates a momentum of other people that want to blow the whistle, like this guy did unwittingly.

00:19:47.000 Wow, so you think it creates a culture where people feel more empowered and entitled to speak out?

00:19:53.000 I suppose when the moral veracity of an entire military endeavor is up for question, we already pontificated at length and provided some interesting demonstrations of the way that Post-war, presumed in a much-required post-war climate, Black Rock have done deals with Zelensky to participate in the construction, that they want to make it a digital nation.

00:20:18.000 I wonder sometimes, James, what kind of revelations it's going to take for people to stop participating.

00:20:26.000 I recognize that you use a degree of sensationalism.

00:20:28.000 That's because I believe at heart you are a showman.

00:20:31.000 Do you think that people need sensationalism in order to be Well, you need a little bit of sensationalism and you need to be a little bit of a thespian to expose them in the first place. 1.00

00:20:49.000 Like, to get in there and go get the information and present yourself as something that you're not, to ingratiate yourself with the subject.

00:20:55.000 I think individually, taking one video at a time, none of this perhaps alone can change things, but collectively they can change things.

00:21:05.000 So this is one of a series of exposés.

00:21:08.000 I mean, even me talking to this guy.

00:21:10.000 You'll see this video later today.

00:21:11.000 This is this BlackRock recruiter.

00:21:13.000 I sat down with him.

00:21:16.000 Like a thespian that I am, he got up and he walked down the street, this is New York City, into the police station and he invited me into the police station with him.

00:21:25.000 Now I wasn't certain whether he's trying to turn himself into the police, usually criminals run away from the police not towards them, or it was a weird moment in time, highly entertaining, quite bizarre, but the cognitive dissonance when these people are exposed I think it's, this is a movement where you release one video, that inspires the next video, which inspires the next, and it just sort of creates this momentum.

00:21:49.000 At O'KeefeMediaGroup.com, we got whistleblowers coming to us, DMing us right now, live, in my office, people come in saying there's things happening, I can't tell you what's happening, but more videos are coming out this week from within BlackRock.

00:22:02.000 I suppose one of the things this indicates is that crime has become a subjective and shifting concept, i.e.

00:22:12.000 as Nixon famously said, it's not crime when the president does it.

00:22:18.000 And now what we have is a state where it's not criminal when BlackRock do it. 1.00

00:22:23.000 Bribery, corruption, Hypocrisy.

00:22:26.000 It seems there's a certain strata of society that are exempted from ordinary taxation laws, ordinary ethics and morality.

00:22:36.000 And I suppose, James, you are going to have to keep providing these exposés to stop us becoming inured to corruption.

00:22:44.000 Overly inoculated, to use a term of our time.

00:22:47.000 Now, James, is this true that you've been felt up at the airport?

00:22:51.000 Was this part of a security measure or is this yet another of your That's quite a transition here.

00:22:58.000 We talk about the morality of investigative journalism creating a morality to me being harassed and molested and groped.

00:23:05.000 but I'll go there.

00:23:07.000 Tie them together.

00:23:09.000 Tie them together? Man.

00:23:11.000 What we do has the power to create morality because we patrol the boundaries of what is moral and immoral

00:23:21.000 by testing what shocks people's conscience.

00:23:24.000 You say it doesn't shock your conscience, but you're a few standard deviations away from the average, Russell.

00:23:30.000 Most people, some people, are literally a slumber.

00:23:34.000 But most of those people are also afraid.

00:23:37.000 So, speaking of being groped, I was in Nashville, this is last week, most people recognize me, and when they don't like me, they say nothing.

00:23:45.000 And if they like me, they say something.

00:23:47.000 So, you know, you probably experienced something similar, I suppose.

00:23:50.000 So, I'm in Nashville at the TSA line, and this guy, this TSA agent, definitely recognizes me.

00:23:55.000 Rather than just ignore me, he says, come here.

00:23:57.000 He says, you want it in the private room, or do you want... I said, I want to do it in front of everybody.

00:24:01.000 I want everyone to see this.

00:24:04.000 Everyone and then I make sure I get a camera person to record it and he takes his hand and he really touches me all over all over the place.

00:24:12.000 I usually I say I almost said what you got to take me to dinner first, right if you're going to behave that way, but we got it on video.

00:24:19.000 And, um, it was crazy.

00:24:20.000 I've never seen anything like it.

00:24:21.000 Right.

00:24:22.000 Okay, guys, hold on to your hats.

00:24:24.000 Now, if James doesn't bring enough eroticism merely by virtue of his conversation, here he is being patted down at Homeland Security.

00:24:33.000 I can see already from the still at the front of the frame that the gloves are on, but in many ways the gloves are off.

00:24:38.000 Let's see James getting stripped down and touched up.

00:24:42.000 What are you looking for?

00:24:52.000 Making sure there's not anything there.

00:24:54.000 That was good.

00:24:54.000 Okay.

00:24:55.000 Thank you.

00:24:57.000 I tell you what, he was very abrasive with the backhand there, wasn't he?

00:25:01.000 That was a very aggressive stroke across there.

00:25:04.000 I can see that people are excited about Dr Mark Hyman.

00:25:06.000 He's flashing up on Zoom even now.

00:25:09.000 I take that to mean that we've lost James O'Keefe, possibly because he fears another fondling at the hands of overzealous Homeland Security.

00:25:19.000 So there we go, that's James O'Keefe.

00:25:21.000 We'll see if we can get James back a little later, but until then, I want to get into some freedom of speech.

00:25:26.000 Do you believe in freedom of speech?

00:25:28.000 Because in a minute, we're going to be speaking to Dr. Mark Hyman, who's going to bust apart some of your preconceptions about big food and big pharma.

00:25:37.000 And he's bought his receipts.

00:25:39.000 But before that, let's enjoy a little bit of freedom, a little bit of speech.

00:25:43.000 And where freedom of speech meet, you get free speech.

00:25:45.000 and where free speech meets you get...

00:25:47.000 ...

00:25:55.000 We didn't make that ourselves.

00:25:57.000 I have to admit that was made too professional for us.

00:25:59.000 Much too professional.

00:26:00.000 We can't do things like that.

00:26:02.000 We had Ross Coulthard on.

00:26:03.000 Ross Coulthard you'll be familiar with because he conducted the now infamous, legendary David Grush interview.

00:26:11.000 Many of you are almost seeming to be suggesting that Ross Coulthard himself could be an asset of the States.

00:26:18.000 So many of you were divided by these new revelations around UFOs.

00:26:21.000 Many people thinking it's just a distraction.

00:26:23.000 Other people thinking it's the seismic shift we've been waiting for.

00:26:26.000 Apologetic Girl said on locals there, Please abduct me, aliens. 1.00

00:26:32.000 I cannot face either Biden or Trump as president.

00:26:35.000 Sometimes an extraterrestrial experience does seem favourable.

00:26:39.000 Imagination, are we all agreed that aliens are humans from the future travelling back in time in their advanced flying machines?

00:26:46.000 Are we all agreed?

00:26:47.000 Can we all agree to that?

00:26:48.000 Can we simply agree that there's advanced humans?

00:26:52.000 I don't know.

00:26:52.000 I mean, I think the debate goes on, mate.

00:26:55.000 Maximatitis444, love all the UFO conversations on the show recently, but looking at the state of the US, I can see why ET has decided not to make contact.

00:27:03.000 Here's some stuff on censorship, RFK and Rogan and Hortense.

00:27:07.000 We're going to be looking at that in depth in just a few minutes.

00:27:12.000 And I think we actually bring some real weight to the conversation.

00:27:14.000 Of course we do.

00:27:15.000 Also, I've topped it up with a £10 to get that.

00:27:16.000 That's right.

00:27:17.000 Let's get that debate happening, for God's sake.

00:27:20.000 Yeah, this has been pointed out by Afreej. 0.97

00:27:22.000 This is at Buttercup Lovely, saying simply, every time James O'Keefe comes on here, he's cut off.

00:27:30.000 Is it the state?

00:27:31.000 Is it the system?

00:27:33.000 Is it the machine itself?

00:27:34.000 How come James O'Keefe keeps getting cut off?

00:27:37.000 He looks like he was about to get cut off by that overzealous fella down the airport with them blue gloves on.

00:27:42.000 Does he need to improve his Wi-Fi?

00:27:43.000 That's another explanation.

00:27:44.000 It could be that.

00:27:45.000 Yeah, don't see conspiracy everywhere, guys.

00:27:48.000 We've got to be responsible.

00:27:50.000 Dr. Mark Hyman is a responsible contributor to this show.

00:27:54.000 He won't be coming on here with crackpot theories.

00:27:57.000 Zen underscore Hillbilly says, in the Jordan Peterson interview, RFK Jr.

00:28:01.000 literally says, I'm surprised YouTube isn't trying to censor you more.

00:28:05.000 Jordan says, yeah, they've left me alone.

00:28:07.000 They've left me alone for some reason.

00:28:09.000 That's what he said.

00:28:10.000 That's how he would have said it as well, wouldn't he?

00:28:13.000 Was that Kermit from the Muppets?

00:28:14.000 You start at Kermit and you move towards JP.

00:28:17.000 Hey Kermit the Frog! 0.98

00:28:18.000 And then you go, hey well listen, you know, it's not entirely clear to me.

00:28:21.000 There's a atypical people at a, no, there's an agreeable type.

00:28:25.000 Okay, Russell.

00:28:26.000 Well, like that.

00:28:28.000 That's how he talks.

00:28:29.000 I like Jordan Peterson though, don't I?

00:28:30.000 Oh yeah, you do.

00:28:31.000 I love him.

00:28:31.000 Get on ever so well.

00:28:33.000 He's very, yeah, he's a dear, I love him, he's brilliant.

00:28:35.000 Alright, come on, listen, hold on, there's some more stuff here.

00:28:37.000 Yeah.

00:28:37.000 Are we giving it to Dr. Yeah, we can do.

00:28:39.000 Dr. Hyman?

00:28:40.000 Oh no, Trump's boxes?

00:28:42.000 Sure.

00:28:42.000 Do you want to know about them?

00:28:43.000 Of course I do.

00:28:44.000 This is Maximum Titus again.

00:28:46.000 It's the White House Pawn Stash.

00:28:48.000 Aww.

00:28:49.000 He's got weird stuff in there.

00:28:51.000 He's got golf equipment in those secret boxes. 0.78

00:28:54.000 I think it's time now to take a look into the stinking, seething, nipple-strewn underbelly of big food And Big Pharma with Dr. Mark Hyman.

00:29:08.000 He's a family physician, international leader in the field of functional medicine, and best-selling author, whose book, Young Forever, is out now.

00:29:17.000 We'll post a link to that in the chat.

00:29:19.000 Thanks for joining us, Dr. Mark.

00:29:21.000 I've seen some pictures of you looking very fit.

00:29:23.000 You're a fit and healthy fella, ain't ya?

00:29:24.000 In here, guys.

00:29:29.000 I can't hear him.

00:29:31.000 It's audio.

00:29:32.000 Oh, that might be you, darling.

00:29:33.000 You might be muted.

00:29:35.000 Come on, Grandad, press the mute button.

00:29:37.000 Be young forever.

00:29:38.000 You can't even bloody operate Zoom.

00:29:39.000 All right, I got it.

00:29:40.000 I got it.

00:29:42.000 I'm good.

00:29:43.000 I'm 64.

00:29:43.000 I'm good.

00:29:44.000 I'm old, but I'm a very good vintage.

00:29:47.000 Let's have another look at this.

00:29:48.000 Get closer on that picture of him with his top off.

00:29:50.000 Wait a second, because I can't make out fully because it's too little on the monitor.

00:29:53.000 I'll tell you what, mate, you are the age of, you know, that's been immortalized by the Beatles.

00:29:58.000 You are 64.

00:30:00.000 And you're looking absolutely fantastic.

00:30:03.000 We care about health.

00:30:05.000 We want to live forever.

00:30:06.000 I'm willing to... You want to look that good right now, even at your tender time of life.

00:30:12.000 How are you doing this?

00:30:13.000 Are you doing this with supplements?

00:30:15.000 Are you doing this by working out?

00:30:16.000 Are you doing this by avoiding the toxins in our food?

00:30:20.000 How are we to literally, Doctor, cheat Sweet Lady Death?

00:30:25.000 Well, I basically don't listen to the advice of the medical system or the recommendations of our government or food industry, which are all promulgating theories about Health, I have nothing to do with health.

00:30:35.000 In fact, they're promoting disease.

00:30:37.000 We have a sick care system, a disease creation system from field to fork, and it's driving a global epidemic of chronic disease.

00:30:44.000 It's the number one killer globally.

00:30:46.000 11 million people die every year from eating bad food, and it doesn't have to be that way.

00:30:51.000 So it's pretty simple.

00:30:52.000 I basically eat real food.

00:30:53.000 I move my body.

00:30:54.000 I lift some weights.

00:30:55.000 I actually do bands.

00:30:56.000 I get sleep.

00:30:57.000 I have fun.

00:30:58.000 I hang out with my friends.

00:30:59.000 It's not that complicated.

00:31:01.000 Every morning, up I get, I drink the lemon water.

00:31:04.000 Then it's celery juice.

00:31:05.000 Now I'm taking these supplements, NMN, MNM, something like that.

00:31:09.000 Something that sounds a bit like testosterone and Turkmenistan. 0.57

00:31:11.000 I can't remember exactly what it is.

00:31:13.000 But I'm loading myself up on all sorts of things, Doc.

00:31:16.000 I hope I'm doing the right thing.

00:31:18.000 I'm eating well, I'm vegan, I'm exercising, I'm doing yoga, I'm doing Brazilian jiu-jitsu.

00:31:22.000 Am I doing the right thing?

00:31:23.000 But perhaps more importantly, are you suggesting that the medical industry and the food industry are conspiring to keep us in a cycle of sickness, seeing us as sort of consuming blobs that remain forever ill?

00:31:35.000 But deal with me first and then move on to everyone else in the world.

00:31:38.000 I think, Russell, you're doing good.

00:31:39.000 You look beautiful.

00:31:40.000 You look fit, healthy.

00:31:41.000 I've seen you in person.

00:31:42.000 You're good.

00:31:43.000 I keep doing what you're doing.

00:31:45.000 As far as the food industry, the ag industry, the farm industry, the medical industry, it's really a big one medical industrial complex and we are in a situation that is You know, unlike anything we've ever seen before.

00:31:57.000 We've seen a global increase in obesity from when I was born about 3 to 5% and now we're 42% in America.

00:32:03.000 We're seeing 93% of Americans poor metabolic health and it's really driven by our food system that keep people going into the health care system and it's a perfect kind of virtuous or vicious cycle, if you will, of bad food creating chronic disease that's then taken care by the medical system that's paid for by tax dollars and that's driven by lobbying and research and the co-opting of professional groups,

00:32:30.000 the co-opting of social groups, the creating of front groups to confuse the public.

00:32:34.000 It's really a very well orchestrated strategy to keep it from the truth of what creates health

00:32:39.000 and what creates disease.

00:32:40.000 Which foods do we know are bad for us?

00:32:45.000 for us. I'm...

00:32:47.000 Are we continuing to eat precisely because they are being lobbied for, because that information is not being conveyed?

00:32:54.000 What should we stop eating immediately?

00:32:56.000 And what do we do about, is it a fallacy that it's just expensive to eat well and eat healthy,

00:33:00.000 that it's expensive to eat healthy food, and that it's just easier to glug down salt and syrup

00:33:06.000 and sugar all day long, nihilistically, waiting away like some lilo on a couch?

00:33:13.000 Well, it's true that we are all promoted these foods, but they're not necessarily cheaper.

00:33:20.000 They're subsidized in part by government and industry, and they're made, these processed foods are really cheap,

00:33:26.000 but that's not actually expensive to eat well if you know what you're doing.

00:33:30.000 And in terms of the overall strategy of the food industry, it's to produce large amounts of ultra-processed food

00:33:37.000 from three main ingredients, corn, wheat, and soy.

00:33:40.000 that are turning all kinds of shapes, colors, sizes of chemically excreted food-like substances that have nothing to do with health or food, and that we consume at an enormous volume.

00:33:48.000 60% of our diet in America is ultra-processed food, 67% of kids diet, and for every 10% of your diet that's ultra-processed food, your risk of death goes up by 14%.

00:33:56.000 This is the number one killer period in the planet. And on top of that, you know, we,

00:34:01.000 the rest of our diet is pretty low in good stuff. So we have lots of bad stuff and very low good

00:34:06.000 stuff like fruits and vegetables, nuts and seeds, whole foods. And so we're ending up driving our

00:34:11.000 bodies into this catastrophic state where six out of 10 Americans have a chronic disease,

00:34:16.000 four out of 10 have two or more.

00:34:19.000 One in four teenagers now has pre-diabetes or type 2 diabetes.

00:34:22.000 This didn't even exist when I was a kid.

00:34:23.000 It used to be called adult-onset diabetes and juvenile diabetes.

00:34:26.000 Now it's type 1 and type 2 because they had to change the name because little kids were getting it.

00:34:30.000 And 15-year-olds need liver transplants and gastric bypass because of the sugar they're eating from the soda.

00:34:35.000 So we're in a big problem.

00:34:36.000 Throughout the pandemic period we talked about the problem of comorbidities and how vulnerable people with comorbidities were, but now it seems that there's an epidemic of comorbidities.

00:34:46.000 Plainly awareness and education are part of this, but this feels like a much bigger political problem.

00:34:53.000 Do you offer, Dr Mark, that what's required is nothing less than a revolution in agriculture that leads to the localisation of the food supply chain?

00:35:02.000 A revolution in The big food industry to regulate against it, to prevent them from lobbying, from shutting down the self-funded regulatory bodies that permit this kind of behaviour, and a revolution in pharma.

00:35:15.000 Is that what's required?

00:35:18.000 We need to change our food system from field to fork. 0.89

00:35:20.000 We need to change all our food policies to support the right thing rather than the wrong thing.

00:35:23.000 You know, right now, Russell, we have, for example, a food system where we're not paying the true cost of food.

00:35:29.000 For every dollar we spend on food, according to the Rockefeller Foundation, there's three extra dollars spent on the downstream costs, whether it's the damage to our soils, loss of biodiversity, the depletion of our water resources, the destruction of the soil, which leads to Carbon in the atmosphere, I mean one third of all the carbon in the atmosphere today for climate change comes from the destruction of our soil through our modern farming practices.

00:35:50.000 And then our food is more nutritionally depleted.

00:35:52.000 So we're driving huge amounts of production of the wrong foods, not enough of the right foods, and it's creating this epidemic.

00:35:59.000 And I think You know, when you look at the food industry, it's the largest industry on the planet.

00:36:03.000 When I say food, I mean food and ag.

00:36:06.000 And you add farm on top of that, it's even more.

00:36:08.000 So we've got a $17 trillion industry, which is about $16 trillion, which is about 70% of the world's GDP.

00:36:17.000 It's enormous.

00:36:18.000 And it's a huge amount of money at stake.

00:36:21.000 That's propagating farming in ways that use heavy doses of fertilizer, which uses about 1 to 2% of all global energy, about 10% of greenhouse gas emissions.

00:36:31.000 It pollutes our waterways, rivers, and lakes, causing eutrophication, which kills all the wildlife and fish in the water.

00:36:39.000 And we deplete our soils as well by chemical spraying.

00:36:42.000 We deplete the microbiome of the soil.

00:36:44.000 So our food now is 50% less nutritious than it was 50 years ago, less vitamins and minerals and nutrients.

00:36:50.000 And we're actually seeing land being degraded at such a rate that we're creating a new desert the size of Nicaragua every year.

00:36:57.000 And we're in trouble.

00:37:00.000 We may only have 60 years of soil left to grow food in, according to the UN.

00:37:04.000 So we're in a bit of a crisis.

00:37:06.000 And unless we revolutionize the way we grow food, the food we produce, the food we market, the food we eat, we're in trouble.

00:37:16.000 I don't think we can get there, but we're in trouble right now.

00:37:19.000 I wonder if you feel, Mark, that the desacralization of food, the desacralization of our relationship with the land, with the soil, with the plants and animals that we eat, is in part responsible.

00:37:34.000 The fact that this insidious, invasive ideology of commodity has so detached us from the Conscious component that eating in all healthy cultures contains is partly to blame.

00:37:49.000 Whether it's the Mediterranean or the Indian subcontinent, so-called, people sacralise, and even Christian Northern European cultures say in grace, recognising that our relationship with food is part of our symbiotic connection to nature.

00:38:05.000 The loss of this awareness, is it part of the problem?

00:38:08.000 And perhaps somewhat less Esoterically, Katie in the chat says, do you think all this is causing my thyroid condition?

00:38:15.000 Could you do both of those for us, Mark?

00:38:19.000 I don't know about the thyroid condition, but actually chemical spraying and pesticides are a big source of thyroid issues.

00:38:27.000 And so is gluten, which has changed in our food supply because of the hybridization of wheat.

00:38:33.000 It's created dwarf wheat, which has far more gluten proteins that are far more inflammatory.

00:38:37.000 So in part, yes, because of that, you might be increasing your thyroid risk.

00:38:42.000 But I think the reality is that we have become disconnected from the land.

00:38:47.000 We have been disconnected from our food source.

00:38:50.000 In America, about 2% of the people were not farmers at the turn of the 1900s.

00:38:55.000 Now about 2% are farmers.

00:38:57.000 We've completely unsettled America from being a rural agrarian society, 1.00

00:39:01.000 as most countries around the world, and become a more urban society.

00:39:04.000 And we've moved people off the farms and disconnected them from the land,

00:39:07.000 their food sources, and the connection to nature.

00:39:10.000 And I think that plays a big role.

00:39:12.000 Most people don't have an idea where their food comes from, how it was grown,

00:39:14.000 what's going on with it.

00:39:16.000 And if they did, they'd be really appalled.

00:39:18.000 So I think people need to get back, like in America, for example, during World War II, 0.98

00:39:21.000 40% of the food was grown by Victory Gardens.

00:39:24.000 We need to get back into actually being connected more to our source of nutrition and food

00:39:30.000 through either growing or being involved with farms.

00:39:32.000 I was at a farm today, and I visited this regenerative farm

00:39:35.000 where they were growing incredible intercropping of animals and plants and fruit trees and vegetables

00:39:42.000 in this beautiful way that was restoring the organic matter in the soil,

00:39:45.000 that was storing water in the soil, that was increasing biodiversity in the land,

00:39:50.000 it was doing all the right things, it was adding value to the nature rather than stealing

00:39:55.000 and making nature a commodity to use up.

00:39:57.000 Become awakened.

00:39:59.000 Grow your own food!

00:40:01.000 Regain control of your own life and gastric system!

00:40:05.000 Awaken!

00:40:06.000 Immediately!

00:40:07.000 Cause for optimism, cause for hope, Dr. Mark, but also the precipice of despair.

00:40:13.000 It's time for... Hmm.

00:40:19.000 It's my question.

00:40:20.000 Hello, Dr. Mark.

00:40:24.000 That didn't need to be answered.

00:40:25.000 That wasn't a question, actually.

00:40:28.000 Uh, I was just wondering, so one element... It's not Gareth!

00:40:30.000 Small talk.

00:40:31.000 We don't have a jingle for Gareth flirts with Dr Mark Hyman.

00:40:35.000 Although, oh god, I can only imagine what Jack, Bad Graphics Jack, would conjure up with that brief.

00:40:41.000 I was just wondering, you talked a lot about the way in which we're being poisoned by the foods that we're eating that are making us sick.

00:40:47.000 I guess the other element to this is the drugs that we're being told to take to make us better.

00:40:54.000 And when we have a situation where drug studies are sponsored by drug companies and the FDA is funded by the pharmaceutical companies that it's meant to regulate, are we at a point where the drugs, I guess, you know, obviously this has been raised a lot during the pandemic, but the drugs that we're being told to take to lessen the issues of the things that are making us sick, Aren't the things that we should be taking.

00:41:20.000 There are drugs that we shouldn't be taking at all and different drugs that we could be taking that would be more effective.

00:41:28.000 Yeah, listen, pharmaceutical drugs have a role, and they can benefit many people for many things.

00:41:32.000 But they're now being prescribed in ways that actually don't, for the most part, help people create health.

00:41:39.000 They're treating symptoms and diseases, and they often come with significant side effects.

00:41:43.000 And the problem with research is that it's primarily funded by industry.

00:41:46.000 Whether it's nutrition research, 12 times as much money is flowing into nutrition research as the government funding of research.

00:41:55.000 And the findings of those food industry sponsored studies are 8 to 50 times more

00:41:59.000 likely to show a positive benefit for their product. Like if dairy is seen to be a sports drink, well

00:42:04.000 guess what, it's going to work if it's funded by the Dairy Council. And same thing with

00:42:08.000 pharmaceutical industry. You know, the frightening thing is that, you know, a pharmaceutical

00:42:13.000 industry has to submit all their data to the FDA for review and then the FDA will approve the drug or will

00:42:19.000 not approve the drug. But they don't have to publish all the data.

00:42:24.000 So they just publish the positive data that they kind of twist and contort and adjust and make statistical manipulations to make it seem good.

00:42:33.000 Well, they don't actually publish the negative data.

00:42:36.000 And this is quite concerning to me because we don't actually have true transparency about what we're taking and its impact, its benefit, and its risks.

00:42:42.000 And most drugs are marginally effective, you know, and they don't reverse the disease.

00:42:46.000 And you can't reverse diabetes with a drug.

00:42:49.000 You can manage it, but the only place diabetes is cured is on the farm, in the grocery store, in the restaurants, in the kitchen.

00:42:55.000 I can't cure it in my office with a medication.

00:42:57.000 And I see it all the time when you actually Treat people by creating health using functional medicine, which is really the science of creating health.

00:43:04.000 Treats the body as an ecosystem.

00:43:05.000 It's much like regenerative agriculture.

00:43:07.000 It's like regenerative human health.

00:43:09.000 It works to actually reverse disease, whether it's autoimmune diseases, cardiovascular diseases, metabolic disease like diabetes, digestive problems, mood disorders.

00:43:17.000 And where, you know, medication is important, but it's not the solution for most of the problems people have.

00:43:23.000 And I think we need to move away from our reductionist model, which is you treat a single disease with a single drug, which is really predominantly how research is done, and look at how do we start to understand the science of what is health?

00:43:35.000 How do we define health?

00:43:36.000 How do we create it through an intervention, set of interventions that actually work, like lifestyle, what you eat, how you move, your sleep, stress, you know, the right practices in your life, community, meaning, belonging, purpose.

00:43:48.000 Those are all the ingredients for health.

00:43:49.000 Dr Mark Hyman, thank you for outlining that with such clarity and expertise.

00:43:55.000 I'm watching the chat on Locals, you can press the red button if you want to join it and people value your contribution and content.

00:44:02.000 And a lot of people think you look like Jon Stewart.

00:44:06.000 I haven't heard that before.

00:44:07.000 In fact, his wife told me that.

00:44:09.000 And she said, you look like my husband, but you're better looking.

00:44:12.000 So I said, I wouldn't tell him that.

00:44:14.000 Would you mind extrapolating on what the circumstances were, Doctor?

00:44:18.000 Context, Doc!

00:44:19.000 What's the context?

00:44:21.000 I hope you weren't looming over Mrs Stewart!

00:44:25.000 The pair of you in a passionate clinch!

00:44:28.000 You! 0.99

00:44:28.000 Of other people! 0.99

00:44:29.000 Brandishing some celery!

00:44:32.000 This will make you better!

00:44:33.000 You can't trust big medicine!

00:44:35.000 You can't trust Jon Stewart!

00:44:36.000 I'm bigger!

00:44:37.000 I'm better!

00:44:38.000 I'm the real Jon Stewart!

00:44:39.000 I'm Jon Stewart, but with a degree!

00:44:42.000 Dr Mark Hyman, thank you!

00:44:43.000 So much for puncturing so many of our preconceptions.

00:44:47.000 Thank you for breaching many of our ideas about Big Food and Big Pharma and taking our cherry when it came to the simple naivety around our preconceptions around Big Food and Big Pharma.

00:45:01.000 I'm just doing some hymen.

00:45:02.000 Actually, I'm passing the time.

00:45:04.000 Listen, Mark, thanks very much, man.

00:45:06.000 Thanks for joining us.

00:45:08.000 Mark's book, Young Forever, is available at drhyman.com.

00:45:13.000 Thanks very much, Mark.

00:45:14.000 That was a fantastic contribution.

00:45:15.000 Thank you, mate.

00:45:16.000 Oh, great to see you.

00:45:17.000 Thanks, mate.

00:45:18.000 Take it easy.

00:45:18.000 See you soon.

00:45:19.000 Fantastic contribution.

00:45:20.000 I thought your flirting was pretty outrageous.

00:45:23.000 Yeah, I do regret that moment.

00:45:26.000 But if you want to see professionalism, you'll see it tomorrow, because Yoga with Adrian Starr, Adrian Mischler will be on the show, helping us to spiritually awaken through yoga.

00:45:39.000 And if you've ever wanted to see me do yoga, you bloody well will.

00:45:42.000 And if you haven't wanted to, I suppose you just don't have to watch it, it's not mandatory.

00:45:46.000 Listen, if you want to join our locals community, press the red button.

00:45:49.000 You'll get early access to interviews.

00:45:51.000 You better join us live for these conversations when we have people on like RFK, Jordan Peterson, Eckhart Tolle, all sorts of people gather around the digital campfire that is happening.

00:46:03.000 Why did I say that?

00:46:04.000 I'm so tired.

00:46:05.000 I'm exhausted.

00:46:06.000 Also, if you want to watch my special, Brandemic is premiering on the 25th of June on Moment.

00:46:13.000 There's a link in the description.

00:46:14.000 It's completely uncensored.

00:46:16.000 It's completely self-funded.

00:46:18.000 It's completely brilliant.

00:46:20.000 You can get it.

00:46:21.000 Now, do you... Listen, when are we going to see a debate?

00:46:24.000 I want to see a debate between that fella in the dickie bow tie, Peter Hotez, And RFK, Rumble's latest star, newest acquisition, our colleague.

00:46:34.000 Shall we call him our colleague?

00:46:35.000 He's our colleague over here at Rumble.

00:46:37.000 It's good, isn't it?

00:46:37.000 Because, like, you know, when people say, oh, right-wing conspiracy theorist.

00:46:40.000 With him, they just have to go, left-wing conspiracy theorist.

00:46:43.000 I mean, they'll find some way of smearing him, poor sod.

00:46:45.000 But for now, at least he's got free speech.

00:46:48.000 But will we see him debate Dr. Peter Hotez?

00:46:52.000 Why is it That science is more and more resembling dogma, and that we are unable to have a discourse around important issues that is inclusive, respectful, and loving.

00:47:04.000 Join us tomorrow, not for more of the same, but for more of the different.

00:47:07.000 Until then, here's the news.

00:47:09.000 No, here's the epic news.

00:47:11.000 Stay free.

00:47:19.000 Seconds out!

00:47:20.000 Joe Rogan challenges Dr. Peter Hotez to debate RFK on the subject of vaccines.

00:47:27.000 Is this thirst for combative discourse due to science being treated as dogma during the pandemic?

00:47:33.000 Is there about to be an explosion of conflict around science?

00:47:37.000 What is science for anyway?

00:47:42.000 The world is changing fast.

00:47:44.000 During the pandemic period, there plainly was censorship.

00:47:47.000 It's now been admitted that true information was censored, shut down, taken off social media sites, asked for a bunch of things to be censored that in retrospect ended up being debatable or true.

00:47:57.000 In order, in fact, to ensure that a prevailing mentality went unchallenged.

00:48:02.000 Because of powerful media figures like Joe Rogan being able to bypass the attempts of the mainstream to censor them, we now live in a different space.

00:48:09.000 Elon Musk owns Twitter now.

00:48:11.000 He's got a different attitude towards centralised power and authoritarianism.

00:48:14.000 And what about the fact that the BBC was put under pressure by the British government to change the editorial policy?

00:48:19.000 Are you aware of that?

00:48:20.000 Whether you love Elon Musk or loathe him, you have to acknowledge that he is facilitating a different type of debate.

00:48:26.000 Enter into this conversation RFK, a politician with a powerful surname and very strong views on certain medications.

00:48:32.000 The establishment now cannot avoid conversation, discourse and debate without censorship, without smearing, without shutting down conversations on the basis of it being misinformation or malinformation.

00:48:45.000 Why has it become so contentious?

00:48:48.000 Why has it become so combative?

00:48:49.000 Let me know in the comments what exactly you feel about the ongoing debate around medications and restrictions and regulations that were implemented during the pandemic period.

00:48:59.000 Let's have a look at this Twitter spat, this Twitter brawl, this Twitter rumble and see can we have grown-up adult conversations in good faith that are directed towards finding mutually beneficial solutions that take into account that science is often a subset of capitalism and commercial

00:49:18.000 incentives, that the state has been negligent in certain areas,

00:49:21.000 but we have to be able to enter into good faith conversations

00:49:24.000 where all sides are listened to appropriately.

00:49:27.000 Let's have a look at Dr. Peter Hotez now on MSNBC's show with Mehdi Hussain

00:49:31.000 to see what claims he's made that have caused this ferrari to escalate

00:49:36.000 to the point where it's become a global social media phenomena.

00:49:39.000 So the point is anti-vaccine disinformation.

00:49:42.000 As soon as I see the spectacles and the bow tie, I think this is not someone who can go toe-to-toe with Joe

00:49:47.000 Rogan.

00:49:48.000 Now I know Joe Rogan is facilitating a potential debate that Dr Peter Hotez is, it seems, potentially avoiding.

00:49:56.000 What we want to be wary of on this channel is this conversation falling into tribalism

00:50:01.000 and becoming overly energised.

00:50:03.000 Because actually what we're trying to deal with is information.

00:50:05.000 You know we've had RFK on our show, you know I've been on Joe Rogan's show a bunch of times,

00:50:09.000 we're still organising our Elon Musk conversation, and I'm friendly with Mehdi Hussain.

00:50:14.000 So many of the people involved in this I'm familiar with, friendly with.

00:50:18.000 What we're keen to support is the possibility of a conversation about the efficacy of medication,

00:50:24.000 the mainstream media's appetite for censorship, the possibility that the pharmaceutical industry

00:50:29.000 needs to be radically regulated in a new way, and that the mainstream media needs to responsibly

00:50:35.000 report on all sides of the conversation.

00:50:37.000 He, Dr. Peter Hotez, he's just another human being.

00:50:40.000 He's not the living totem pole of the system's desire to vaccinate.

00:50:45.000 I'm sure he's got very particular perspectives.

00:50:47.000 I understand that maybe he's got an autistic kid, has he?

00:50:49.000 I mean, you've got to be kind of sympathetic towards him on that basis.

00:50:52.000 Doesn't he advocate for vaccines being available without patent in territories where they aren't being overly commercialized and they're not unduly profitable?

00:51:00.000 We don't need to get into a situation where we victimise any individual, although culturally I guess it's pretty obvious that I have more in common with RFK than Elon Musk when it comes to this particular issue.

00:51:10.000 But what's more important than those kind of affiliations and that kind of natural affinity is good faith conversations.

00:51:17.000 Where we have to get to is the point where you sort of calmly, patiently listen to people that you disagree with and then present your perspective on the situation.

00:51:25.000 What is assumed at the moment is we live in a system where both sides want to seize control and annihilate the other side, whether that's the Democrats and Republicans in American politics, even though both sides are owned by the same corporate interests.

00:51:38.000 And even around this vaccine debate, I think a lot of people feel they were shut down during the pandemic period, like those of us that were like, whoa, are we?

00:51:44.000 Getting a bit carried away here.

00:51:45.000 Isn't this like an opportunity to profit and an opportunity to regulate?

00:51:48.000 There was all sorts of conversations that weren't talked about.

00:51:50.000 What about natural immunity?

00:51:51.000 What about vitamin D?

00:51:52.000 Shouldn't we be eating well and doing exercise?

00:51:53.000 And Joe Rogan was carrying a lot of those messages as a result of conversations with experts.

00:51:57.000 So I imagine he feels somewhat frustrated.

00:51:59.000 Then someone like RFK, him being dismissed as a sort of a wackadoodle, I guess he's going to be pretty antagonistic.

00:52:04.000 So both sides have at different points engaged in the conversation in rhetorical ways that are not advantageous to a beneficiary.

00:52:12.000 Unofficial, agreeable consensus being achieved.

00:52:16.000 We can't be flag-waving and snarling and teeth-bearing with something as important as this.

00:52:21.000 This isn't about victory for a side, this is about victory for humanity.

00:52:24.000 I offered to come and talk to Joe Rogan again, I've been on a couple of times, and have that discussion with him, but not to turn it into the Jerry Springer show with having RFK Jr.

00:52:34.000 on.

00:52:35.000 It's sad because I said I'm so fed up with the debate me debate me.

00:52:38.000 You've already spoken and written about Covid vaccines.

00:52:41.000 I think you've been on MSNBC and other channels hundreds of times since the start of the pandemic.

00:52:46.000 That somewhat glosses over the plain observable fact That during the period between the end of 2019 to where we are now, there have been a good many revelations about the nature of the vaccines, their efficacy and regulations that were taken during lockdown that have been disproven, challenged, debated, among the most notably that the mainstream media and social media participated with the state and state agencies in censoring and controlling the narrative.

00:53:15.000 If you want to take that in the most optimistic way, In order that we all are protected and kept safe?

00:53:22.000 But you know if you're a person that doubts the motives of the state and corporations the whole thing becomes a little more complex.

00:53:28.000 Wouldn't it be nice to see Mehdi Hussein say look let's be honest since the beginning of the pandemic it's become pretty clear that many things that were said on this very channel were not true and that people like Joe Rogan were vilified.

00:53:39.000 An RFK who's a valid voice who's done a lot of research into this subject and written a best-selling book ought be included in the conversation and it's plain that people are trying to shut Everyone just doubles down on their own side the whole time.

00:53:53.000 You never hear these types of media outlets go, we shouldn't have said Ivermectin is a horse paste.

00:53:58.000 That discredited us. 0.98

00:54:00.000 We look foolish because of that. 0.96

00:54:02.000 We shouldn't have done that. 0.93

00:54:03.000 We shouldn't have made claims about the vaccine that were not proven and have subsequently been disproven.

00:54:09.000 We shouldn't have done that.

00:54:10.000 We should have acknowledged that it wasn't true.

00:54:12.000 We should be open about looking at the negative impact of lockdown.

00:54:16.000 We shouldn't have had Don Lemon say, yes, we should shame the unvaccinated.

00:54:20.000 Until you get a clear, mere culprit.

00:54:23.000 That's what tribalism and oppositionism leads to.

00:54:26.000 A kind of aggressive, testosterone-fuelled judgement when what might be better is a little yielding, open-mindedness and observation of what the actual target and what the actual intentions are.

00:54:39.000 And I would say, I don't know if you've agreed to debate or not.

00:54:42.000 My advice is not to.

00:54:43.000 And people might find that surprising because I wrote a book about debate.

00:54:46.000 But I just think there's a time and a place for a debate.

00:54:48.000 The time and the place for debate is situations where we get to propagate one particular view and we don't have to acknowledge mistakes and errors that have been made.

00:54:56.000 But I would say a conversation between someone like RFK, who, to use the British phrase, knows his onions, someone like Peter Hotez, who's clearly scientifically grounded, would be valuable if it was done in the right spirit.

00:55:07.000 In my personal opinion, Joe Rogan's exactly the person to curate such a debate because he's shown that he's for real.

00:55:13.000 The thing that he does, he's done when there was no money in it.

00:55:16.000 He's kept doing it.

00:55:17.000 He's listened to voices from both sides.

00:55:18.000 He's remained consistent.

00:55:20.000 I think he's a reliable person.

00:55:21.000 He's not doubling down and advocating for a particular point of view.

00:55:24.000 That's my opinion, but I've got my own biases, obviously.

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00:56:40.000 I don't think a historian of World War Two should debate a Holocaust denier.

00:56:45.000 I just, you know, that's just...

00:56:46.000 That's my analogy here.

00:56:48.000 I don't think these debates between experts and cranks do anything other than elevate the cranks.

00:56:53.000 Creating the category of expert and crank is part of the problem.

00:56:57.000 People do not like, above all else, this I have learned, elitism.

00:57:01.000 The idea that your opinion doesn't matter. 1.00

00:57:04.000 Shut up. 1.00

00:57:04.000 Because guess what? 1.00

00:57:06.000 The people that were saying that, We're wrong about so many vital issues that they've discredited almost the concept of being an expert.

00:57:15.000 Because an expert that is funded by certain financial interests, that operates to support and lobby for certain financial interests, isn't really an expert at all.

00:57:24.000 It's just an object of the new orthodoxy that promulgates a particular message.

00:57:29.000 Science has to be an ongoing discourse that incorporates information from both sides.

00:57:34.000 This, perhaps above all else, is a subject that does need to be debated because here's what I believe.

00:57:39.000 The pandemic was exploited and utilized in order to create opportunities to regulate and profit.

00:57:45.000 Not saying that the pandemic wasn't a real thing, it was exploited the same way that every crisis is exploited.

00:57:51.000 That's a piece of long-standing left-wing analysis.

00:57:54.000 Crisis response solution.

00:57:57.000 But in science, we don't typically do debates.

00:58:00.000 What we do is we write scientific papers, we present our findings in front of a critical audience of our peers to solicit their input and suggestions, but one doesn't typically debate science.

00:58:12.000 What type of science are we talking about when Pfizer lobbied to have the information concealed and not revealed for 75 years?

00:58:19.000 What kind of science do you have when increasingly people think that this virus emerged from a scientific laboratory in Wuhan that was funded by scientific interests in the United States of America?

00:58:29.000 of course means the analysis of data through experimentation and verification. It's not

00:58:29.000 Science itself!

00:58:35.000 the meaning of the word science that's being debated, it's the authenticity of the type

00:58:39.000 of science that's been deployed in the last few years to legitimise authoritarianism and

00:58:44.000 profiteering. Let me know in the comments if you agree.

00:58:46.000 Maybe the one-off discussion of evolution versus creationism and that sort of thing,

00:58:51.000 but that's not what we do in science.

00:58:53.000 Even there, what's being doubled down on is a kind of materialistic world view that has

00:58:58.000 As in the exact elitism that people are getting sick of.

00:59:02.000 That's why debate and conversation is important.

00:59:05.000 Only the studies that are funded are getting done.

00:59:07.000 The way that the information is presented is often dubious.

00:59:10.000 Sometimes trials are carried out numerous times and the FDA, for example, the regulatory body of the pharmaceutical industries in the United States is funded to the tune of 75% at least by those pharmaceutical companies.

00:59:22.000 So to suggest that science is a catch-all way of denying corruption or potential opposition is exactly the same way that the church 500 years ago would have said, yeah, but God says it's wrong.

00:59:32.000 It's just the use of an authoritarian symbol to shut down debate.

00:59:35.000 And that is literally the problem.

00:59:37.000 Dr. Peter Hotez, the Dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at Baylor College of Medicine, told MSNBC's Mehdi Hassan that he'd been the target of an overwhelming harassment campaign since the tres hombres of RFK Junior Joe Rogan and Elon Musk ganged up to pressure him into a live debate over the safety and efficacy of COVID-19 vaccines.

00:59:56.000 Dr. Hotez said the attacks from the anti-vaccine lobby included physical stalking and incessant threatening Emails.

01:00:02.000 If you want to talk about an anti-vaccine lobby, do you also want to talk about a vaccine lobby?

01:00:06.000 If you want to talk about bullying, do you want to talk about Don Lemon's rhetoric around shaming or the ivermectin horse-paced debacle on CNN?

01:00:13.000 It's okay to say stuff like that, to make those kind of accusations.

01:00:16.000 There's no doubt that Joe Rogan is a powerful individual personally and now culturally, and the same can be said of Elon Musk and RFK in various ways also.

01:00:25.000 But To delegitimize their request for a debate on the basis of bullying and lobbying without acknowledging that bullying and lobbying was one of the key problems that defined the pandemic period is disingenuous.

01:00:38.000 My main point is, imagine yourself on the other side of the argument.

01:00:41.000 Think about the thing you believe, like it's pretty clear what side I'm on, culturally and ideologically and just through affinity, affiliation and personal history.

01:00:48.000 But what I'm trying to think is Dr. Peter Hotez is a human being.

01:00:51.000 I'm trying to think everyone is just like me, trying to do their best in the world.

01:00:55.000 These like nitpicky contentious issues have to be approached openheartedly.

01:01:00.000 How are we going to get somewhere?

01:01:01.000 And I don't believe that the mainstream media, the pharmaceutical industry, big tech and the state, particularly with its globalist tendencies, has behaved in a good faith way in the last few years.

01:01:10.000 I think the intention has been opportunistic regulation and opportunistic profiteering.

01:01:15.000 And that has to be confronted, and having a conversation about that is a perfectly good way to air those issues.

01:01:21.000 The stuff online is just total wackadoodle.

01:01:23.000 And let's face it, when you have RFK Jr and Joe Rogan and Elon Musk all tag-teaming those Tres Hombres at the same time, he told MSNBC, that probably includes just about every follower on Twitter, so it's pretty overwhelming.

01:01:35.000 But it was also pretty overwhelming when the FBI were censoring information that was true.

01:01:39.000 It was pretty overwhelming when Joe Rogan was subject to just an all-pervading media attack because he said I got better in three days.

01:01:46.000 It was literally an immersive experience.

01:01:49.000 Information was censored, discredited, called conspiracy theories.

01:01:52.000 So it's extraordinary actually.

01:01:53.000 To see these type of arguments advanced at this time.

01:01:57.000 What they're advancing now is what they should have considered then.

01:02:00.000 Are we being bullying?

01:02:01.000 Are we just responding to lobbying?

01:02:03.000 Are we shutting down conversation?

01:02:04.000 Are we victimizing individuals?

01:02:06.000 Shaming them even when we should be listening?

01:02:08.000 Let me know in the comments.

01:02:09.000 The saga began after Dr. Hotez shared a vice article that debunked the orgy of unchecked vaccine misinformation by RFK Jr.

01:02:15.000 and Rogan during a three-hour interview last week.

01:02:17.000 So in a sense, Dr. Hotez invited this.

01:02:20.000 It's not like it was an unsolicited attack. 0.97

01:02:22.000 He went, this is bunk and hokum and nonsense. 0.95

01:02:25.000 Here's a rebuttal.

01:02:26.000 On Saturday, Rogan challenged the world-renowned vaccine expert to debate COVID vaccines with RFK Jr.

01:02:32.000 Peter, if you claim what RFK Jr.

01:02:33.000 is saying is misinformation, I'm offering you $100,000 to the charity of your choice if you're willing to debate him on my show with no time limit, he tweeted.

01:02:39.000 Hotez replied he was prepared to come on Rogan's podcast to have a meaningful discussion.

01:02:43.000 Some people say there was another tweet that was deleted before eventually saying he would join.

01:02:47.000 So, like, even this piece of text that we're using is biased.

01:02:49.000 Look, Mr. Musk then joined in on the pylon, right?

01:02:52.000 So this is framing the information in a particular way.

01:02:54.000 He's afraid of public debate because he knows he's wrong.

01:02:57.000 I don't know, man.

01:02:57.000 You can say that's joining a pylon.

01:02:59.000 Have there been pylons during the pandemic period?

01:03:01.000 Have there been people that have been condemned and criticized?

01:03:03.000 There has to be principle and values.

01:03:05.000 There have to be.

01:03:06.000 Otherwise, none of this stuff's going to work.

01:03:08.000 Either you believe it's wrong to have a pylon, Or you don't like pylons when you're being piled on, but you like piling on others.

01:03:14.000 You've got to have values.

01:03:15.000 If you have no values, you're in trouble.

01:03:17.000 In an interview on Sunday night, Dr. Hotez said the claim that he was a shill for big pharma was exasperating.

01:03:22.000 I make low-cost, patent-free vaccines for lower-middle-income countries that led to 1.00

01:03:26.000 100 million doses being administered in India and Indonesia.

01:03:29.000 No patents, minimal strings attached, so we actually found a way to bypass the pharma companies,

01:03:32.000 and yet RFK Jr. incessantly calls me a pharma shill. If you believe that vaccines are part of

01:03:38.000 the solution, and of course a lot of people do, then ensuring that they're

01:03:41.000 We covered that.

01:03:41.000 have access to them, you'd say is a good thing and a righteous thing. So again, it's interesting

01:03:46.000 to approach information like this in an unbiased and open-hearted way and not to rely on simplistic

01:03:51.000 tropes about good and bad, because I think life's a bit more complicated than that.

01:03:55.000 In January, the World Health Organization released a video in which it's claimed anti-vaccine

01:03:59.000 activism is more dangerous than terrorism, nuclear proliferation and gun violence. Yeah,

01:04:03.000 the WHO did do that. We covered that. That's up on our channel. We have to recognize that

01:04:06.000 anti-vaccine activism, which I actually call anti-science aggression, has now become a major

01:04:11.000 our killing force globally," said Hotis. 0.94

01:04:13.000 Well that's the kind of thing that does shut down debate and conversation and I would strongly disagree with that.

01:04:17.000 Anti-science aggression is worse than terrorism.

01:04:20.000 So that's an interesting set of ideas to conflate.

01:04:22.000 Let me know in the comments if you think that's helpful to a necessary global conversation where there are scars that need to be healed.

01:04:29.000 Even in the most contentious issues, I believe conversation can't hurt.

01:04:32.000 That's how we advance.

01:04:33.000 Otherwise, we're just going to ossify our oppositionist positions.

01:04:36.000 No?

01:04:37.000 Meanwhile, YouTube's war against RFK Jr.

01:04:39.000 continues as the big tech platform has now deleted a 90-minute podcast starring Kennedy in conversation with Canadian psychologist Dr. Jordan Peterson, which encompassed topics from climate change to COVID-19 measures.

01:04:49.000 So what we have here is a social media furore around a vital, significant and defining issue of the last three years which encompasses Big Pharma, censorship, state power, who has the right to control and censor information.

01:05:02.000 You know the kind of stories we cover here on this platform and you know where we stand on globalism, the power and influence of Big Pharma that they're able to exert through donations.

01:05:11.000 Imagine if Big Pharma was independently regulated and they were unable to make donations to the political class and they were unable to sponsor media.

01:05:19.000 Do you imagine then you might get a less biased conversation on these subjects?

01:05:22.000 Would they be interesting regulations to introduce?

01:05:25.000 Then perhaps what you would have is an environment where people could talk about science appropriately, in the right way.

01:05:30.000 What does your experimentation reveal?

01:05:32.000 What doesn't it reveal?

01:05:34.000 Where is there still room for conjecture?

01:05:36.000 Where is there still room for individual freedom?

01:05:38.000 I would argue that unless you're genuinely and legitimately building a society where it's acknowledged and understood by all that we're all participating together in a global organism and we all love one another, that would include Radical changes economically to be able to say, well look, we've all got to undertake these measures because as you know, our society is based on fairness and unity.

01:06:00.000 You can see that in our political systems.

01:06:01.000 You can see it in our financial systems.

01:06:03.000 You can see it in the way that conflicts are resolved.

01:06:05.000 You can see that in the way that democracy and elections are conducted.

01:06:08.000 Unless you've got that kind of society, you have to recognise that this is a quite tribalised society, where people are entitled to have different views, where communities should have decentralised, democratic, localised institutions by which they run themselves.

01:06:23.000 And in such an environment, debate and conversation should be encouraged.

01:06:27.000 The only people that benefit from closing down debate and conversation are those that seek to control the narrative.

01:06:33.000 And usually they're not seeking to control the narrative in order to protect you, but in order to control you.

01:06:39.000 Protection and control are starting to intersect.

01:06:42.000 I think that's one of the main things we learned during the pandemic.

01:06:45.000 People that are saying they're going to protect you, want to control you.

01:06:49.000 That doesn't mean that science isn't legitimate.

01:06:50.000 That doesn't mean that great work isn't being done.

01:06:52.000 That doesn't mean that there aren't perfectly reasonable, brilliant people on both sides of almost any conversation.

01:06:58.000 It just means we've forgotten that.

01:06:59.000 We've forgotten that in order to have a debate, you have to approach people with an open hand and an open heart and good faith and be willing to listen to views that you don't like.

01:07:07.000 You have to be willing to afford other people their freedom.

01:07:10.000 But that's just what I think.

01:07:11.000 Let me know what you think in the comments and chat.

01:07:13.000 Join us later this week, not for more of the same, but for more of the different.

01:07:16.000 Until then, stay free.

Stay Free - Russel Brand - June 21, 2023

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