Stay Free - Russel Brand - February 16, 2023


Bob Roth (Healing Through Meditation)


Episode Stats

Length

42 minutes

Words per Minute

182.42708

Word Count

7,817

Sentence Count

522

Misogynist Sentences

3

Hate Speech Sentences

9


Summary

Russell Brand is back, and this time we're talking about the Biden Train Wreck, the Ukraine crisis, pandemic profiteers and the David Finch Foundation. Plus, we take a look at how to deal with a time of economic crisis, and why the mainstream media is failing us all. Stay Free, wherever you are - there's a way back home. - Russell Brand Subscribe to Stay Free on Apple Podcasts and leave us a rating and review. If you like what you hear, please HIT SUBSCRIBE and tell a friend about what you're listening to. You can also join our FB group, and join the conversation by using the hashtag , and find us on Insta: to join the movement. We're part of the Local Media Network, a global network of independent media and cultural hubs that covers news and opinions from the people and places around the globe. Our mission is to inform, inspire and empower people to think, talk and write about what's going on in the world around them, and help them do the things they need to do the most important thing they can do to make a difference. in a world where they can have a voice and have a say in their local community. Stay free, wherever they are, and everywhere they can get a grip on the issues they care about. Thank you for listening, and stay free, and remember that you're not alone! - stay free! - we're all in this is a place where we can make a voice for change, and we can all get a voice, and a voice to be heard, no matter how loud and clear, and it's not just loud, but everywhere they hear it's important, everywhere they listen and they get a chance to hear it. Thanks for listening and share it everywhere they get it, and they can be heard. Love, be sure to share it! xoxo, be safe, be grateful, and spread it everywhere and everywhere else they can see it, friend it's a good one! . XOXOzymes - The Local Media Team . . - P. , The Localism Project & The Localisation by Jeff Bezos, The Wall Street Journal, The Localising Community, by the Localisation Project, by The Localization Project, and much more! and so on and so much more.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello there, you Awakening Wonders.
00:00:01.000 Thanks for joining me on Stay Free with Russell Brand.
00:00:04.000 We love you, whoever you are, wherever you're from, whatever you've done, there's a way back home.
00:00:10.000 Don't matter where you're watching this right now, the whole show will only be available on Rumble.
00:00:15.000 After about 10 minutes, we'll click over onto just that platform because we talk about things that require An absolute commitment to freedom of speech.
00:00:22.000 If you're going to attack powerful establishment forces, you need that guarantee.
00:00:28.000 Hello, those of you that are watching this on local, that's our members community.
00:00:31.000 People like Ashela, she's saying get well soon.
00:00:34.000 Oh, they just talk to each other on that chat.
00:00:38.000 I'm fine.
00:00:39.000 I think so.
00:00:40.000 Yeah.
00:00:40.000 Unless she knows something that you don't.
00:00:42.000 Oh no.
00:00:43.000 It's written all over my face.
00:00:45.000 We've got a fantastic show for you today.
00:00:47.000 So it's really worth staying for the entire hour.
00:00:50.000 First of all, we're talking about The literal Biden train wreck.
00:00:54.000 His presidency has been a train wreck for some time and now there's an actual, sadly, tragic environmental disaster of a train wreck to sort of almost epitomise it.
00:01:03.000 It seems that in some ways that administration is culpable for not taking necessary safety measures.
00:01:10.000 And also for not paying workers enough and reneging on a promise to be a pro-worker president.
00:01:15.000 We'll be talking about that aspect in particular.
00:01:18.000 NATO and Ukraine, they need some more ammo now.
00:01:22.000 They've not got enough.
00:01:23.000 And also we're going to be talking to you about a sort of recent revelation that Zelensky said he never was going to obey that Minsk agreement anyway.
00:01:29.000 He never cared about the Minsk agreement.
00:01:31.000 No.
00:01:31.000 He never cared about it.
00:01:33.000 It takes two to tango, doesn't it?
00:01:35.000 It certainly does, Russ.
00:01:36.000 Can't have a tango with one person, they just look weird.
00:01:38.000 When it comes to just clicking over to Rumble... I bet you've tried.
00:01:42.000 It's not a tango, it's a rumba!
00:01:45.000 It's a rumble rumba!
00:01:46.000 When we click over to just being on Rumble, we're going to tell you this unbelievable tale of... Well, the WHO have just admitted they're not going to try and find out where COVID come from anymore.
00:01:56.000 It's too hard.
00:01:57.000 Well, I'm to follow the science.
00:01:59.000 I've followed it.
00:01:59.000 I don't know where it's gone down.
00:02:00.000 It's gone down a mouse hole.
00:02:02.000 Where is it?
00:02:03.000 Where's that science gone?
00:02:05.000 And towards the end of the show, we're talking to my actual meditation teacher, the leader of the David Finch Foundation.
00:02:11.000 Maybe leader's not the right word.
00:02:13.000 It makes it sound more like a cult than I bet they would like.
00:02:15.000 Bob Roth, the man that taught me to meditate, taught you to meditate.
00:02:18.000 One of us kept it up.
00:02:18.000 Yep.
00:02:19.000 You can tell by the beads which one it was.
00:02:22.000 And only the beads, actually, because there's certainly no accompanying serenity, wisdom, or insights to distinguish us.
00:02:29.000 On our presentation, Here's the News, we're going to be talking about pandemic profiteers.
00:02:32.000 You're going to be astonished when you learn some of the people that earned extraordinary profits during the pandemic period.
00:02:38.000 And the reason I was astonished, and I guess, you know, probably we're similar in some ways, you and me, is because There's some people that were right mouthing off during the pandemic about exactly what we should do.
00:02:46.000 Oh, you should do this.
00:02:47.000 You shouldn't do that.
00:02:48.000 You know, piping up with all sorts of schemes.
00:02:51.000 Turns out they made a load of money and a lot of people lost a lot of money.
00:02:55.000 But don't worry, because the mainstream media is along with some suggestions with how you can cope with impecunious circumstances.
00:03:03.000 How the old penury needn't be a problem for thee.
00:03:11.000 The Wall Street Journal have this suggestion for how you can cope economically in a time of crisis.
00:03:16.000 Is it challenge government powers?
00:03:19.000 Yeah, well here's a few things it could be.
00:03:22.000 You've got to look at how corporate interests in the government cooperate to ensure that ordinary people never have a chance to alter or penetrate the system.
00:03:30.000 That's one thing you could do.
00:03:31.000 You could organise, collectivise together to confront establishment power.
00:03:35.000 I suppose that's one way of doing it.
00:03:37.000 Recognise that self-sufficiency to some degree is going to be necessary as institutions and the faith in them continues to collapse.
00:03:44.000 Localisation.
00:03:45.000 Localisation!
00:03:46.000 Run your own communities democratically, grow your own food, connect to people heart by heart, join a community like the locals community that we belong to.
00:03:55.000 Let's see if that's what the mainstream media... Probably is that.
00:03:57.000 The Wall Street Journal, owned in part by Jeff Bezos.
00:04:00.000 That's the Washington Post, that is.
00:04:02.000 They're all the same, aren't they?
00:04:03.000 Yeah.
00:04:03.000 All bloody same.
00:04:04.000 Wall Street Journal, in order to save money, you should skip breakfast.
00:04:08.000 There you go!
00:04:09.000 Eat less food!
00:04:10.000 Eat less!
00:04:14.000 I'm so poor, life's so hard.
00:04:15.000 Have you ever considered you might be being greedy?
00:04:17.000 That thing you do in the morning.
00:04:19.000 Remember that?
00:04:20.000 Maybe not that.
00:04:21.000 Also, you know, there's a whole host now of, we are on this show, friends of Klip Klop.
00:04:26.000 Klip Klop is the AI robot dog that will shoot you as soon as look at you.
00:04:31.000 You see him everywhere these days.
00:04:33.000 He's appearing at the Super Bowl.
00:04:34.000 He's a member of the police force.
00:04:36.000 I think he's at Delaware.
00:04:37.000 He's cropped up somewhere.
00:04:38.000 Well, now China, They've got their own clip-clop and I think actually their clip-clop looks a bit better than American clip-clop so when it comes to the kickoff which you know if these balloons keep floating by at this rate global Armageddon is inevitable necessary some would say.
00:04:54.000 Let's have a look at this is Chinese clip-clop look at him he looks hardcore.
00:04:58.000 You've got that sort of stupid run hasn't he?
00:05:06.000 It's the familiar tip-top isn't it?
00:05:09.000 Clip clops wherever they're from in the world have a common gate.
00:05:14.000 I wonder if these clip clops at some point during a sort of a Terminator 2 style war might think, hang on a minute, why am I killing them clip clops over there?
00:05:23.000 Just because they've got different colored clothes on to me.
00:05:26.000 Aren't we all the same beneath the surface?
00:05:29.000 What if all the Klip Klops go, hey, we, instead of, in a kind of introversion of the, or an inversion rather, of the typical expected sci-fi dystopian step, they go, we want peace.
00:05:41.000 Sky Knight realised the humans were silly and they had to look after them.
00:05:44.000 Have a little game of football maybe on Christmas Day.
00:05:46.000 Christmas Day, the clip clops come out that say a piece of World War One mythos for English and German people that on Christmas Day people realised temporarily that the war was pointless and played football.
00:05:57.000 In a sense, I suppose it's one of the great metaphors, that war is unnecessary, it doesn't help anybody, sooner or later people are going to stop and come to a diplomatic solution.
00:06:06.000 Try telling that to NATO, Russ.
00:06:07.000 I have tried telling them, they don't want to listen.
00:06:10.000 They want some more ammo.
00:06:12.000 But before we do that, let's have a look at one more clip-clop, Russian clip-clops.
00:06:16.000 Russian clip-clop, I think, is a bit more arachnoid, and I'd have to say a bit more sexy.
00:06:21.000 It's like a sexy, velvety clip-clop.
00:06:24.000 If you had to have sex with a clip-clop, and the day may come where you do have to, Because what are you going to do if Clip Clop went, take your temperature, get in your house, or whatever?
00:06:33.000 You look nice, sir.
00:06:34.000 Have you undone that shirt, Nestor, for to get me going?
00:06:38.000 Clip Clop, why are you looking at me like that?
00:06:39.000 Clip Clop!
00:06:41.000 And I know that when Clip Clop ejaculates, he would step back.
00:06:44.000 Like that, wouldn't he?
00:06:46.000 He'd judder himself backwards, all scared of his own effluvia.
00:06:50.000 It's true to life.
00:06:51.000 Yeah.
00:06:53.000 Who among us hasn't shuddered backwards in astonishment at our own productivity?
00:06:58.000 I made this!
00:06:59.000 Let's have a look at Clip Clop the Velvet Clad Little Perv.
00:07:04.000 What do you think of Russian folk music?
00:07:09.000 I'm not sure in this context.
00:07:11.000 Because that's not a merry jig.
00:07:12.000 It's not, is it?
00:07:17.000 Yeah, I'm scared by this.
00:07:18.000 It's like that thing where they put nursery rhymes in horror films.
00:07:22.000 It's like the two don't go together.
00:07:24.000 Round and round the mulberry bush.
00:07:26.000 Like that kind of thing.
00:07:27.000 Oh shit, what's going on here, man?
00:07:29.000 This is spooking me.
00:07:30.000 Hey, you know that Minsk agreement?
00:07:32.000 What Minsk agreement?
00:07:33.000 The agreement where Ukraine was going to stop the fight in Donbass.
00:07:38.000 They were going to stop it!
00:07:39.000 They want to stop that fight in Donbass, but apparently Zelensky never had any intention of obeying it or going along with it.
00:07:45.000 And this, while there is, we've got that story there.
00:07:48.000 He said, look, he didn't plan on implementing them agreements.
00:07:51.000 It was the agreement that sought to end the Donbass war.
00:07:54.000 Now, have a look at this.
00:07:55.000 NATO want bloody more weapons.
00:07:57.000 You're aware of this, even if you watch mainstream news, if you're still imbibing that toxic claptrap, no good stuff for you getting into the soil like train wreck fluid.
00:08:06.000 Ukraine's military is consuming more ammunition than Western countries are providing, almost a year after Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered the invasion.
00:08:14.000 NATO's General Secretary Jens Stoltenberg said, anyway, give us some more weapons is what he wants.
00:08:20.000 Yeah, I guess the issue with this is, as Lenski's saying at this point, that he never intended to implement those agreements and we literally discovered last week, didn't we, by enough Danny Bennett that, you know, the peace deals were blocked and scuppered by Western leaders.
00:08:35.000 It doesn't bode well for peace at this stage.
00:08:39.000 Look, why don't we just have a guess when peace will come?
00:08:41.000 What it'll be?
00:08:42.000 They have to, because they have to at some point come to peace so that the Black Rock reconstruction can take place.
00:08:48.000 Sometimes I see a bit of mainstream news and I'm reminded of the horror that there is an actual war going on, that Ukraine is under attack, like ordinary people's lives are being destroyed and decimated.
00:08:58.000 It's a total downer.
00:09:00.000 But we sort of tend to focus here on how it's being reported in the mainstream in order to have a more rounded opinion on the conflict.
00:09:08.000 And ultimately, however you look at it, you've got to be urging a diplomatic solution as soon as possible.
00:09:15.000 Donald Trump says he could have one in 10 Seconds, doesn't he?
00:09:19.000 It would be nice.
00:09:19.000 Or something like that.
00:09:20.000 I think, yeah, he said it would get done on the same day, didn't he?
00:09:23.000 If he was back in power.
00:09:24.000 God bless him.
00:09:25.000 It's tricky.
00:09:25.000 I don't know.
00:09:25.000 You've got Zelensky vowing to retake Crimea and Russia saying that that would spark nuclear war.
00:09:30.000 You know, whilst you're saying it has to come to a resolution at some point, the signs are that this is just going to continue.
00:09:36.000 You've got NATO calling for more weapons.
00:09:38.000 You've got Lloyd Austin saying he wants to weaken Russia.
00:09:41.000 What I think it's about is that I think that ultimately, Zelensky will only be backed as long as his interests converge with globalist, corporate, military-industrial complex interests.
00:09:52.000 If there's a bifurcation of those interests, then Zelensky's power is redundant.
00:09:56.000 We talked yesterday at length to Michael Racey Tracy, who told us that what began, he described the phenomena of mission creep, plainly the aid at the commencement of the conflict was about Humanitarian aid and he used the example it was likely things like blankets and nourishment and nutrition then the phrase lethal aid entered the lexicon and it became clear that what the West and in particular the America but even more accurately the military-industrial complex were doing was arming Ukraine and using this as an opportunity in my opinion to profit from this conflict and
00:10:31.000 I reckon it will go on for a little bit longer.
00:10:33.000 I hope it ends as soon as possible, but it seems to be being governed by economic interests rather than the humanitarian ones that were used at the outset.
00:10:42.000 Angela Merkel said in an interview in December that the Minsk Accords were signed to give Ukraine time to strengthen itself, so it's another one of those stories that back salt this idea that this wasn't something
00:10:53.000 that just started last year and that this goes back to 2014 this goes back to
00:10:57.000 when these was signed and Zlensky now admitting that he never intended to
00:11:01.000 honor them just shows this is something that's been building from 2014 onwards.
00:11:05.000 So there you are, let's know what you think in the chat and the comments about how this story is being told and how do
00:11:09.000 we square our knowledge about what was happening and how the conflict has
00:11:14.000 been engineered and perhaps misrepresented with the ongoing need of people that
00:11:18.000 are suffering as a as a result of this water.
00:11:20.000 It's something that I find difficult to, I don't know, to sort of handle I suppose.
00:11:25.000 Hey, what about that train wreck?
00:11:27.000 I don't mean Joe Biden's presidency in general.
00:11:30.000 I mean this literal bloody terrible Ohio train disaster.
00:11:34.000 I know loads of you think that the balloons and UFOs are a distraction in part from this story.
00:11:39.000 Look, look, look up there in the sky, not down there on the floor where this terrible train wreck has happened.
00:11:44.000 I know loads of you are intrigued by the environmental damage that it's caused.
00:11:48.000 Some calling it a new Chernobyl.
00:11:50.000 I was chatting to Tim Poole earlier today.
00:11:52.000 He's on the show.
00:11:54.000 Tomorrow or Friday, Shriday we're doing the show with Tim and he was saying that it's affecting, many people are saying that it's affecting water supply there.
00:12:01.000 It's an absolutely awful disaster but what we want to talk about is could this disaster have been avoided and it's so often the case that these disasters when investigated come down occasionally to human error and we're all human and we can all make mistakes but in this instance it seems that cost cutting measures were implemented that could have been avoided And it's a matter of record that Joe Biden reneged on his promise to ensure that train workers were properly paid, given proper packages that included rest time and remuneration.
00:12:32.000 Let's have a look at the story from that perspective, the potential blame that the Biden administration must bear.
00:12:38.000 For unionised rail workers, the train derailment exposes systemic failures in a railroad system that is driven by profit, not safety.
00:12:45.000 It should be driven by safety continually.
00:12:47.000 Remember, when new advances are presented to us, whether it's digital ID cards or Medications.
00:12:52.000 It's always for safety.
00:12:53.000 Safety and convenience, these are the buzzwords.
00:12:55.000 If you're watching this anywhere other than Rumble right now, we'll only be able to stay with you for another few minutes.
00:13:00.000 Click over and watch us on Rumble, because that's when we were talking about that WHO story.
00:13:04.000 Better still, join the locals community.
00:13:05.000 You'll love it in there.
00:13:06.000 I can see them there chatting away.
00:13:07.000 No, they're chatting about war and profit.
00:13:08.000 They're on topic, thank God for once.
00:13:11.000 Hey, so listen.
00:13:12.000 Last year, railroad workers in the United States were on the cusp of a strike.
00:13:15.000 Workers were demanding more sick leave to combat the effects of precision-scheduled railroading, a corporate scheme to cut costs by demanding more work from fewer workers.
00:13:24.000 An ongoing trend.
00:13:25.000 There's the threat now of automization, enhanced robotics, and a general sense
00:13:30.000 that most people are losing their power, even the power of their labor.
00:13:34.000 You'll notice there's strikes in the agricultural, industrial,
00:13:37.000 and travel fields across the world-- Sri Lanka, Germany.
00:13:40.000 Our country right now, there are loads and loads of strikes in the health industry, in the railway industry,
00:13:44.000 because people aren't being paid enough.
00:13:45.000 It's not treated correctly generally.
00:13:48.000 Joe Biden and the US Congress blocked rail workers' right to strike by rapidly passing legislation that forced
00:13:54.000 workers to accept an agreement without sick days.
00:13:56.000 That can't be right.
00:13:57.000 An agreement that don't allow sick days.
00:13:58.000 Well, an awful lot of people are going to be sick now.
00:14:01.000 Because they're going to be chugging down toxic fumes in clouds.
00:14:05.000 Oh man, that's no good.
00:14:06.000 Railroad Workers United argues that precision scheduled railroading and the overworking layoffs and lack of safety measures that unionised workers were fighting for last year were a primary reason for the derailment, while opposing a plan that would have required them to spend $321 million to give workers seven paid sick days.
00:14:25.000 That's not that many.
00:14:25.000 That's reasonable, I would have thought.
00:14:26.000 Is it?
00:14:27.000 Yep.
00:14:28.000 The main railroad companies raked in more than $7 billion in profits and paid out over $1.8 billion in dividends.
00:14:35.000 Again and again, we hear stories, don't we?
00:14:37.000 Let me know in the chat, let me know in the comments, where profit is prioritised over safety and even efficacy.
00:14:44.000 That profiteering is no doubt connected to this disaster.
00:14:51.000 I heard somewhere, Gal, that some of the tech that them railroads are using was like General Custer's tech, like Civil War type stuff.
00:14:57.000 Yeah, it was ancient tech and what they needed was, you know, new technology for like the braking systems and that was something that was lobbied against.
00:15:04.000 The same kind of lobbyists that are giving $13 million to Congress and making sure that Biden pushes through this bill to make sure that these rail workers can't strike.
00:15:16.000 But who's to say that a train having brakes is necessary anyway?
00:15:19.000 This train being able to stop, for example, may not have been of any use in stopping it from spilling all those harmful toxins all over the country you live in if you're in America and the planet you live on wherever you are.
00:15:32.000 This is like a literal deadly manifestation of what happened in Congress a few months ago.
00:15:38.000 You get something whereby money funnelled to the right people, pushing the president to make a certain decision, punishing people who he vowed to give sick days to, a pledge that he gave when getting into office to become president in the first place.
00:15:52.000 Now manifesting in this situation where not only wildlife but some of these toxic fumes are carcinogens linked to various forms of cancer.
00:16:00.000 It's like a huge thing that they're saying is actually could be worse than first reported.
00:16:04.000 Throughout the pandemic we had caused to question the impact that pharmaceutical lobbying money had made on the decision to fund that process in the way that it was funded and the kind of regulations if not legislation that was passed.
00:16:17.000 Now we can see Once more, the negative impact of lobbying money on the lives of ordinary Americans.
00:16:24.000 If you believe, like we do, that the practice of lobbying should simply be ended, then let me know in the chat and the comments.
00:16:30.000 And what would be the impact of that if the practice of lobbying itself was outlawed, banned?
00:16:35.000 What difference would that make to the kind of policies that were passed?
00:16:38.000 And also, would it be a policy that was beneficial to ordinary Americans while being punitive to corporate America?
00:16:48.000 Okay, hey listen, I think we've got to go over to Rumble now.
00:16:50.000 We can carry on talking about that railway, and in a minute we're going to be talking to Bob Roth, my meditation teacher.
00:16:55.000 He had his work cut out, getting me to sit still and shut up and repeat a mantra inwardly until consciousness became impersonal and connected to the limitless cosmic consciousness that some people believe underwrites all reality as a kind of unitary force, or in a simpler, shorter word, God.
00:17:11.000 He's got very sparkly eyes as well.
00:17:13.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:17:14.000 Noel Fielding, I introduced him to the British comedian and my mate Noel Fielding one time, and Noel Fielding, like, he was going, do you want to learn to... Noel Fielding did this impression of me.
00:17:23.000 He goes, bloody hell, that Bob Ruff's a bit intense, isn't he?
00:17:25.000 He came up to me, he was going, do you want to learn to... Do you want to learn to meditate?
00:17:29.000 I go, no, you're alright, mate.
00:17:31.000 Reorganising the molecules in me face with your eyes.
00:17:34.000 They're pretty amazing eyes.
00:17:36.000 They're beautiful peepers that Bob Roth's got.
00:17:38.000 And if you don't meditate yet, you might need to because Bob Roth believes we're globally suffering from PTSD, a trauma culture on our prison planet.
00:17:47.000 Stay free with Russell Brand.
00:17:49.000 See it first on Rumble.
00:17:51.000 Pauline Koch.
00:17:52.000 Oh, my God.
00:17:53.000 Russell's outfits.
00:17:54.000 What do you mean about that?
00:17:55.000 Don't you think I look so cool?
00:17:56.000 Here I am.
00:17:57.000 This is me.
00:17:58.000 Can I be seen differently if I move about like that?
00:18:01.000 In particular, the pockets.
00:18:03.000 Look at me move around.
00:18:04.000 Yeah, I'm loose, man.
00:18:05.000 Hey, I was thinking we should start having Dan operate a camera in here.
00:18:09.000 I mean, that's a chat for after the show.
00:18:11.000 But is that a dressing gown?
00:18:13.000 No, that's a shaman's garb.
00:18:16.000 And on the subject of shamans and their garb.
00:18:19.000 We've got a fantastic guest on the show now.
00:18:21.000 As I've already told you, if you've been concentrating, Bob Roth is a teacher, a great teacher of Transcendental Meditation.
00:18:27.000 If you're wondering why you're suffering in this world, it might be because you're not accessing the limitless power that is already within you and around you.
00:18:34.000 Bob is the CEO of the Lynch Foundation, that's set up by David Lynch, of course, and the author of Strength in Stillness and Change Begins Within.
00:18:42.000 How many books does Bob Roth write?
00:18:44.000 Welcome to the show.
00:18:44.000 Here he is, Bob Roth.
00:18:46.000 It's wonderful to be here.
00:18:47.000 I have a question for you.
00:18:48.000 I'd like to see your closet.
00:18:51.000 All these different outfits over all these years.
00:18:55.000 Where do you store them all?
00:18:57.000 How many hangers do you have?
00:18:58.000 I give them away, actually.
00:18:59.000 Like, I mean, I can't keep hold of stuff.
00:19:01.000 Sometimes I'll keep a particularly precious pair of boots, like worn at the VMAs or something, or these blood-spattered Converse trainers that I once wore at the Edinburgh Festival when I sort of got injured in what I might call a fracas.
00:19:14.000 But most of my clothing is, sort of, it goes into what I call the circle.
00:19:19.000 Oddly dressed people walking around Oxfordshire.
00:19:23.000 I just imagined like just rows and rows and rows of Russell's clothing.
00:19:32.000 Don't imagine that.
00:19:33.000 Don't cultivate a relationship with limitless consciousness and then imagine a cupboard, Bob.
00:19:38.000 That's no way to treat consciousness.
00:19:41.000 It's nice to connect, Russell.
00:19:42.000 It's nice to connect.
00:19:44.000 I love you as well, Bob.
00:19:45.000 You can't win the compassion war with me.
00:19:48.000 I'm a very compassionate and loving person.
00:19:51.000 Now Bob, people watching this will be disenchanted and disillusioned with establishment power, globalist elitism, the inability of any democratic process to deliver the will of ordinary people, the failure of our economic and political institutions.
00:20:06.000 They will be looking for hope.
00:20:08.000 How, Bob, Do people heal from the struggles of this world?
00:20:12.000 And how does the personal and spiritual journey interface with the necessary collective change that needs to be instantiated if we're to be pulled back from the brink of the apocalypse?
00:20:23.000 Please.
00:20:25.000 OK, and we have how many days to talk about this?
00:20:29.000 So the thing is, I was a student at the University of California in Berkeley in 1968, and I had many, many friends who were working at that time to make changes, to overturn the government, to do all these different things.
00:20:41.000 And I saw them 10 or 15 years later, completely burned out, Russell, completely burned out, just either sold out or just gave up.
00:20:52.000 And I think when you're talking about the kinds of changes that you're promoting or bringing to light, working in communities, it takes an amazing amount of energy and resilience and focus and flexibility.
00:21:08.000 And you can't burn yourself out.
00:21:10.000 And I think one of the most important tools that anybody can have who's trying to enact change in the world, systemic change in the world, They have to be able to access within themselves what you described, that limitless field of energy, creativity, intelligence, within.
00:21:27.000 It's not a woo-woo place.
00:21:30.000 It's a very real experience that comes about through different approaches.
00:21:34.000 I know through Transcendental Meditation.
00:21:36.000 And the key thing is, there's now this enormous amount of scientific research that shows that meditation, properly understood in practice, is very empowering.
00:21:48.000 It's very strengthening.
00:21:50.000 It's very fulfilling.
00:21:51.000 And I think it's the basis for any kind of change that a person wants to facilitate in the outer world.
00:21:59.000 Do you think that the people that perhaps need it most, not to suggest that we don't all need to have a relationship with this limitless power that grants us the insight that what we perceive as total reality is but a fragment of it, the people that perhaps most need this access are unlikely to need it, excuse me, unlikely to access it.
00:22:18.000 I mean people that are really busy or people that are really suffering.
00:22:21.000 Those seem to be people that find it difficult to make space, make time to meditate.
00:22:27.000 That's before you get into sort of desperately poor Yeah, but the thing that we're working on now with the David Lynch Foundation is we're working with insurance companies and private insurers, self-insurers, and
00:22:41.000 Like Aetna and Blue Cross Blue Shield in the United States and Medicare is to have the meditation reimbursed by the insurance companies so people can learn it and have it prescribed by a doctor and then have it reimbursed by insurance companies.
00:22:58.000 And then we're also working with schools, hospitals, businesses to set aside a meditation room Where a person can do their meditation when they get to work, before the day begins, or before they go home at night.
00:23:13.000 Now, I want to make a very strong point.
00:23:15.000 There's some criticism that, oh, meditation is like the opiate of the masses.
00:23:19.000 There's changes that have to take place in business, they have to take place in the world, and so you meditate and then you forget about all the issues or concerns.
00:23:28.000 That's not transcendental meditation.
00:23:30.000 Transcendental meditation is not an escape from anything.
00:23:33.000 Transcendental meditation is a preparation for activity, for that resilience and that creativity and that clarity of mind and that inner fulfillment that we need in order to make sustained change in our own lives and in society as a whole.
00:23:48.000 So we understand that it's very hard for anybody to find time.
00:23:53.000 But if we make meditation times available in the workplace.
00:23:56.000 Right now, for example, in New York City alone, we're offering Transcendental Meditation for free in about 50 hospitals.
00:24:03.000 Frontline doctors and nurses who are working in the ICU units and emergency rooms.
00:24:12.000 And they have increasingly setting aside places for them to take 20 minutes to meditate.
00:24:17.000 Bob Roth, sometimes when I hear about measures like enabling people to meditate within workspaces, or indeed the advance of allowing or facilitating insurance payment for Transcendental Meditation as a health measure, I can see that that is to a degree progress.
00:24:39.000 But what I note is it is change within the accepted parameters of a very, very powerful system.
00:24:45.000 And it seems to me that at this point we need disruptive change, confrontational change.
00:24:51.000 This is a time where spirituality needs to be brought to the forefront, not to be regarded as a supplement to the accepted and understood Presumed conditions of our late capitalist culture that is underwritten by individualism, materialism, atheism.
00:25:08.000 I feel sometimes that we ought be more radical and disruptive in the way that we present these ideas.
00:25:14.000 How do you and how did the Maharishi square the necessity for fitting in with secularism With the requirement to disrupt this machine that appears to be driving us to extinction.
00:25:27.000 I think disruption has to take place in both ways.
00:25:30.000 That's why I started off saying that we want to bring meditation to the disruptors.
00:25:34.000 That was the first thing I said.
00:25:35.000 The people who are trying to enact the change, the radical revolutionary change that is needed.
00:25:40.000 They'll burn themselves out.
00:25:42.000 We'll burn ourselves out if we don't have some means to rejuvenate and regenerate ourselves.
00:25:47.000 That's number one.
00:25:48.000 Change also takes place from within.
00:25:51.000 So I think when you have people who are meditating in a workplace or in a hospital, they're not becoming passive observers.
00:25:59.000 They're actually able to take a more leadership role and guide those kinds of changes.
00:26:04.000 And Maharishi himself was very radical.
00:26:07.000 I mean, his assessment of the weapons industry, the pharmaceutical industry, I mean, the fact that the number two cause of death In hospitals, in healthcare, is iatrogenic disease, caused by modern medicine.
00:26:21.000 Number two cause of death, caused by modern medicine.
00:26:23.000 So he was slamming that.
00:26:25.000 At the same time, the reality is work has to be done on the ground, whether it's from the outside, empowering people from the outside, or empowering people from the inside.
00:26:35.000 In our locals community, that's our members and anyone can join that if they choose to.
00:26:39.000 There's a link in the chat.
00:26:41.000 Claire Tetra says, this is really resonating with me.
00:26:44.000 Thank you so much, Bob and Russell and team.
00:26:47.000 I'm a children's social worker and deliver different forms of therapy to traumatize children.
00:26:51.000 I am totally burnt out and currently off sick.
00:26:53.000 I practice yoga, but I'm very inconsistent with meditation.
00:26:56.000 It's making me realize how much I need to prioritize it.
00:26:58.000 So I can serve others.
00:27:01.000 Thank you.
00:27:01.000 How do you recommend that people prioritize their meditation and ensure that it's scheduled and kept?
00:27:07.000 What about those outliers?
00:27:08.000 People like Jerry Seinfeld that never misses a session?
00:27:11.000 People like Lynch that never misses a session?
00:27:13.000 People like you that's probably sneakily meditating below the waist right now?
00:27:18.000 What do we do and how do we become more like you?
00:27:22.000 I think that it's just inevitable that a person has to have the desire that they want to learn to meditate.
00:27:27.000 I mean, the thing is, is there's this wonderful ancient proverb where you see a person running, there's a burning little a little house that a hut that's burning and then there's a big building down there and you see a person running and are they running towards the big house?
00:27:42.000 Are they running away from the burning hut?
00:27:46.000 And so stress, trauma, we're living in a and if you want to say a pandemic, Uncontrovertibly, unarguably, this is a pandemic of stress, toxic stress and trauma that's in the world today.
00:27:59.000 Whether you look at what's, again, the number two cause of death among teenagers is suicide and the rates of Addiction, you know all those numbers.
00:28:11.000 So the fact of the matter is, human beings want to get away from suffering, just like that wonderful woman's comment.
00:28:17.000 You want to get away from a migraine headache.
00:28:19.000 You want to get away from insomnia.
00:28:20.000 You want to get away from constant anxiety.
00:28:23.000 Now, yes, change has to take place in the structures of the organizations of the institutions, but in the meanwhile, we also have to take care of our own health or else we'll die.
00:28:34.000 So, I think people, it's a self-motivation.
00:28:37.000 People, when the time is right, some people never miss a meditate.
00:28:40.000 Russell, you're pretty darn good with your meditations.
00:28:43.000 Yeah, I regularly meditate.
00:28:44.000 I always meditate in the morning.
00:28:46.000 I put aside half an hour.
00:28:48.000 I sometimes meditate later in the day.
00:28:50.000 I would love to make it part of our practice here at work.
00:28:53.000 A lot of us get very stressed.
00:28:54.000 It's a very demanding work environment.
00:28:56.000 Some say that much of that stress emanates from a very particular and very unusually dressed person.
00:29:02.000 Co-ordinator, I would like us to be able to make TM part of what we do here.
00:29:07.000 Have you seen it succeed in workplaces?
00:29:10.000 Have you seen it successfully scheduled?
00:29:13.000 Well, I mean, even David Lynch, you know, and his the group that's around him.
00:29:17.000 They all meditate.
00:29:19.000 Very creative people find it.
00:29:22.000 Necessary.
00:29:23.000 Deirdre Parsons, who you know and we love, runs the David Lynch Foundation in the UK and she can arrange to teach everyone in your office.
00:29:33.000 And she's been, I have to tell you, she's been doing amazing work in the UK with the foundation.
00:29:38.000 She's brought it to about hundreds of people who drive ambulances, people who are veterans,
00:29:44.000 people who are on the front lines in hospitals.
00:29:46.000 There's a big research study going on at the University of Cambridge right now on TM
00:29:51.000 and the brain.
00:29:52.000 All of this is—let me pause and say, you don't like it so much, or often when I talk,
00:29:59.000 science, but the fact of the matter is, as you well know, there is no difference.
00:30:04.000 It's a continuum.
00:30:06.000 Pure spirituality and pure physicality.
00:30:09.000 It's a continuum.
00:30:10.000 There's no difference.
00:30:12.000 If I see something traumatic in my mind, it shakes me to the core of my being.
00:30:17.000 If I have a spiritual experience, it shows up in the way my brain is functioning.
00:30:21.000 And that's what they're finding.
00:30:23.000 So when one sees that a person's blood pressure went down or they have less anxiety, they're sleeping better, in a technique that is, you could say, Is good for health, but also develops consciousness.
00:30:36.000 Then you can see there is credit.
00:30:38.000 There's something very profound going on because it's just a purely mental technique that changes all levels of life.
00:30:46.000 So I didn't want you to give me a bad time on the research.
00:30:49.000 No, I appreciate the research and its necessity.
00:30:51.000 I suppose I sometimes, I don't see odds with mysticism.
00:30:54.000 And I know that Maharishi was himself a scientist and I recognize the value.
00:30:59.000 And in fact, the way we frame our information is evidence-based empirical Well thought out arguments.
00:31:07.000 We don't stray into the conspiratorial unless it's for good fun and good humour.
00:31:12.000 It's necessary to adopt the lexicon of our day.
00:31:16.000 But I suppose that there's something about new age rhetoric, and I know that I lapse into this myself sometimes, that makes it feel like we're doing this just to somehow be more attractive or more effective in the workplace, rather than I think it's simultaneous though.
00:31:39.000 You do it too.
00:31:40.000 You pick certain words in your conversations that resonate with people that people understand and you could use other terminology, but there's certain terminology you use and I think that's it's not to water anything down.
00:31:54.000 It's like let's not let vocabulary get in the way of an experience of a transcendent experience.
00:32:01.000 Once you have that transcendent experience, once you have that experience of that inner calm, that silence that lies deep within everyone, then it leads to freedom.
00:32:11.000 You're talking about stay free.
00:32:12.000 Yeah, meditation is a very important way to stay free.
00:32:17.000 When Rick Rubin came on, he was so passionate about meditation.
00:32:22.000 That was a great interview, by the way.
00:32:24.000 A great interview.
00:32:25.000 Yeah, thank you.
00:32:26.000 He's such a beautiful example of it.
00:32:29.000 Of what meditation grants people, wisdom, insight, ease, grace.
00:32:34.000 And sometimes I even think that of you, Bob.
00:32:36.000 Not right now, though, when you're coming across a bit aggressive.
00:32:40.000 Am I being too aggressive?
00:32:42.000 Am I being a tad aggressive?
00:32:45.000 Just a tad aggressive.
00:32:46.000 Being spirited.
00:32:47.000 What about Gareth and the people that work here?
00:32:49.000 They need to learn to meditate.
00:32:51.000 Deirdre.
00:32:51.000 Look at Gareth.
00:32:52.000 Call Deirdre.
00:32:53.000 She'll come and teach you all.
00:32:54.000 What are your questions about meditation?
00:32:55.000 Yeah, I was really interested in what you were saying there, Bob, especially when you mentioned, I know it's obviously an awful subject, but things like suicides and depression.
00:33:05.000 Obviously, one of the issues with the pandemic, one of the more, I suppose, unspoken manifestations of some of the measures you could argue,
00:33:14.000 certainly the lockdowns and some of the things that they created, was this huge spike in depression
00:33:19.000 and suicides and all sorts of other you know dreadful things. And I wondered if you had any
00:33:25.000 thoughts about the kind of methods that we were kind of encouraged to use as coping mechanisms
00:33:32.000 through the pandemic, rather than turning to, so it was things like turning to fast food and
00:33:39.000 being able to easily order things from Amazon and things, rather than a more holistic approach
00:33:44.000 that you're talking about here, which is about methods where we can attain some kind of freedom
00:33:51.000 even when we're locked inside our homes.
00:33:53.000 I think ultimately a person has to make a decision themselves.
00:33:58.000 You know, stay free.
00:33:59.000 They have to say, enough of this, enough of what the mainstream media is telling me, enough, enough, enough.
00:34:05.000 And Russell makes that point, and you, Gareth, makes that point very clearly.
00:34:09.000 I want to take a different path.
00:34:11.000 I want to pursue a different route.
00:34:12.000 I want to do my own research about what's going on with government.
00:34:16.000 I want to do my own research.
00:34:17.000 I want to forge my own way.
00:34:19.000 And that's also true with something like meditation.
00:34:21.000 So, do I really believe fast food is the solution, ultimate solution?
00:34:25.000 Oh, Here's a tool that's ancient.
00:34:28.000 Transcendental meditation is thousands and thousands of years old.
00:34:31.000 There's nothing new here.
00:34:32.000 The idea is that, you know, that ocean analogy, choppy waves on the surface of the ocean, but the ocean is silent at its depth.
00:34:39.000 And the mind is the same.
00:34:41.000 The surface of the mind is the monkey mind or the active thinking, gotta, gotta, gotta mind.
00:34:46.000 But deep within every human being, there's this ocean of consciousness, this silence, this peace, this power, this energy.
00:34:54.000 And Throughout time, people have been accessing that.
00:34:58.000 It was lost for hundreds of years, and look what's happened to the world, or thousands of years, look what's happened to the world, and now it's coming back, and it will completely transform the human being, and the human being will completely transform society, because society is, as you know, the expression of the human being, and if we can have human beings living higher states of consciousness, which just means healthier, more integrated, Bob, I'd love to have you come on for a longer conversation.
00:35:39.000 If we can schedule it, it would be wonderful to spend more time speaking with you.
00:35:44.000 Also, when we're in the United States, where I'm doing two stand-up shows, as a matter of fact, one in Florida, one in Los Angeles, I would love to meet up with you and meditate and stuff if you have time, or you're not wrapped up in your own concerns, you're in a giddy carousel of endless selfishness and hedonism that has come to define you.
00:36:05.000 I know, it's just terrible, it's just terrible.
00:36:07.000 Russell, I would love to spend time with you, it would be great.
00:36:11.000 I mean, we've known, what is this, 14 years now or something?
00:36:14.000 Bobby, each day I mark on my wall with a penknife a groove.
00:36:20.000 Every day.
00:36:21.000 Every day.
00:36:22.000 Another day that I've been friends with Bob Ross.
00:36:24.000 How's Babs?
00:36:26.000 My mother is doing very well, thank you.
00:36:28.000 Probably all meditate more.
00:36:29.000 I love your mother.
00:36:30.000 I love your mother.
00:36:31.000 She's a beautiful woman, isn't she?
00:36:34.000 As is Lauren, your girls.
00:36:36.000 But give my love to them all, but Babs.
00:36:39.000 I feel we're getting off track now, Bob.
00:36:41.000 Sorry, sorry.
00:36:46.000 I love you, Bob Roth.
00:36:47.000 I'll see you in America.
00:36:48.000 And I'll see you soon.
00:36:49.000 I love you, mate.
00:36:51.000 Okay, love you too.
00:36:52.000 Thank you.
00:36:52.000 Love you, Gareth.
00:36:53.000 Bye-bye.
00:36:53.000 Bye-bye, Bob Roth.
00:36:54.000 You can follow Bob Roth on Instagram at MeditationBob and find out more about his work at MeditationBob.com if you want to learn to meditate.
00:37:02.000 I know that the David Lynch Foundation are eager to provide free meditation to people who can't afford it.
00:37:08.000 It's a beautiful organization.
00:37:10.000 Hey, we've got a lovely show for everyone tomorrow.
00:37:13.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:37:14.000 Did you know that?
00:37:15.000 No, no, I was just thinking when you're talking then.
00:37:17.000 What were you thinking about?
00:37:18.000 I guess, you know, we get told a lot, don't we?
00:37:20.000 You're asked a lot.
00:37:20.000 What can we do?
00:37:21.000 What are the solutions?
00:37:23.000 How can we challenge power?
00:37:24.000 That's right.
00:37:25.000 And I guess meditation maybe is one of those ways that it doesn't seem like you're directly changing power.
00:37:31.000 But if you're changing yourself, if you're kind of creating a strength in yourself, That then multiple people and communities are doing it at the same time.
00:37:40.000 I guess maybe what Bob's saying is we'll be more ready to affect change.
00:37:44.000 I thought that's where it can be a really useful tool.
00:37:47.000 I often think about that.
00:37:49.000 I'm ignoring the glasses.
00:37:50.000 Thank you.
00:37:51.000 I often think about... You're too kind.
00:37:54.000 I'm thinking about the example of the tulips.
00:37:58.000 The tulips temporarily became central to Dutch economics and then people instantaneously lost interest and they became almost without value.
00:38:07.000 Tulips were changing hands for thousands of pounds.
00:38:10.000 People talk about it as an example of inflated value quite a lot.
00:38:15.000 I'm also thinking recently about remember that story that we covered about that game store that was going to get shut down and people started to artificially inflate its price which is probably as I understand it common practice in the financial industry and a fundamental aspect of like global finance.
00:38:31.000 But it makes me recognize that all systems are a reflection of human consciousness and our facilities, our humors, our Tendencies for good or bad, jealousy, greed, kindness, love, and the technique of meditation, I suppose, if it changes your individual consciousness, and it changes the individual consciousness of enough people, they, oh man, we could have talked about him, but if we'd have talked to him longer, they conducted experiments, you can look this up, in Chicago, where they had people in their hundreds meditating, it affected the crime figures, you can look at this stuff, it's like, that consciousness is a continuum.
00:39:06.000 Bob sometimes, I guess, is reluctant to get into the, mystical aspects of it, because I feel like they popularize it as is perhaps necessary in this climate, with some of the more easily rationally explained functional aspects of meditation, you will feel better, you will feel more effective.
00:39:24.000 And I guess what I'm always pushing for, what I want is real change, probably because I want real change in myself, but certainly I want it in the world.
00:39:30.000 But I can see that if you don't have people focused on Just what's right in front of them, or what they're kind of angry about necessarily, or what they want, or what they desire.
00:39:44.000 All the distractions that we're offered to stop us thinking about how you're going to create change.
00:39:49.000 Actually, just think about this.
00:39:51.000 Worry about the culture war.
00:39:53.000 Buy some stuff from Amazon.
00:39:54.000 Think about some celebrities on Instagram.
00:39:57.000 Rather than actually, what Bob's saying is, focus on what's real, what's inside you, and therefore you will create the focus to actually make real change, rather than being distracted by all the bullshit.
00:40:09.000 You know that I'm using this as part of an underlying campaign to make meditation mandatory here?
00:40:17.000 I'll be into it.
00:40:17.000 And then doing it on locals and stuff, do just 20 minute meditations.
00:40:20.000 What is good is no one gets to talk.
00:40:23.000 It wouldn't be me talking.
00:40:24.000 Yeah.
00:40:24.000 Silent.
00:40:26.000 Unlike this show, join us tomorrow.
00:40:29.000 Stacey Malkin, who exposes corporate wrongdoing, oh yes she does, and government failures in public health will be joining us for a conversation on Friday.
00:40:36.000 An amazing conversation with Tim Pool.
00:40:38.000 He's talking about global destabilization and the collapse of faith in institutions.
00:40:42.000 Also, join up to Locals.
00:40:44.000 That's our community.
00:40:45.000 If you join Locals, I do a weekly meditation.
00:40:48.000 In that one I do talk, because I get someone, right?
00:40:50.000 You'll love this gal.
00:40:51.000 And I talk to them about their problems.
00:40:53.000 Is it heartbreak?
00:40:54.000 Is it grief?
00:40:55.000 What is it?
00:40:55.000 And then we do a guided meditation.
00:40:57.000 Can't be me every week.
00:41:00.000 You again.
00:41:00.000 What is it this week?
00:41:01.000 It's heartbreak again.
00:41:02.000 Oh, God.
00:41:04.000 Oh, hello.
00:41:04.000 Grief this week.
00:41:05.000 Oh, for God's sake.
00:41:07.000 Do your job.
00:41:09.000 Yeah, we do that once a week.
00:41:11.000 If you join us on Locals, I might pick you and we'll do a meditation together.
00:41:16.000 Plus, we've got a stand up special that we've made.
00:41:18.000 It's fantastic.
00:41:19.000 It's ever so funny.
00:41:20.000 We'll be putting some clips out soon and you'll get that and you'll own it.
00:41:23.000 It's the only place you'll be able to access it at first.
00:41:25.000 You can download the podcast.
00:41:26.000 There's a beautiful exclusive with a conversation we had with Seymour Hersh, the Pulitzer Prize winning journalist who finally had the nuts to say that the Nord Stream pipeline had been blown up by America.
00:41:38.000 Allegedly!
00:41:39.000 Yeah, got anything to add?
00:41:41.000 No, no, he did.
00:41:42.000 And he was also very complimentary of your work, wasn't he?
00:41:44.000 Yeah, he was.
00:41:44.000 Our work, I would go so far as to say.
00:41:46.000 But it was good conversation, actually.
00:41:48.000 He was taking the piss at first, wasn't he?
00:41:50.000 Yeah, he was.
00:41:51.000 Did you get the feeling he was on one of those reclining chairs?
00:41:54.000 Yeah.
00:41:54.000 And he had the laptop literally on his lap.
00:41:57.000 On his lap?
00:41:58.000 Yeah.
00:41:58.000 Well, that's where I put this newfangled thing.
00:42:01.000 Put it on the old lap, I suppose.
00:42:02.000 That's not comfortable.
00:42:03.000 Rocking back in my chair.
00:42:04.000 He had, like, literally the chair of the dad in Fraser.
00:42:08.000 Like, had them green and yellow lines on it.
00:42:10.000 He was a curmudgeonly, wasn't he?
00:42:11.000 He was, yeah.
00:42:13.000 But over time, as people eventually will be, he came round to the charm of the show.
00:42:18.000 He did, he softened.
00:42:19.000 Yeah, he was making jokes and that by the end, took the piss out of my hat.
00:42:22.000 It was cute.
00:42:22.000 I'd like to go sit round his house.
00:42:24.000 I loved him.
00:42:24.000 I bet he's got a matching sofa.
00:42:26.000 You were like a... I don't know, there's a word for people that chase after granddads.
00:42:32.000 And you're one of them.
00:42:32.000 Gilf!
00:42:33.000 Hello sir, I sense a gilf before me, blimey!
00:42:39.000 Kendra, I hope that chair goes all the way back!
00:42:43.000 Sorry about that.
00:42:45.000 Join me tomorrow, not for more of the same, I hope, because some of that was highly inappropriate, but for more of the different.