In this episode of Stay Free With Russell Brand, host Russell Brand sits down with Steve Kirsch, founder of the COVID19 Early Treatment Fund and inventor of the Optical Mouse, to talk about his vaccine activism, his encounters with censorship, and what could prove to be the Pandemic s Edward Snowden. If Barry Young's revelations are true, then this could be a game changer because there s been a significant beta cap in the UK, among others, with Andrew Bridgen, who's become a very significant voice in the pandemic truth movement, shall we call it that? In this episode, we discuss: Why did Steve get involved in this subject? How did he deal with censorship? What is the role of the pharmaceutical industry in this matter? And why is it so important that we have a vaccine that s safe and effective? Why is it important to have access to the information we need to make informed decisions about whether or not to get vaccinated? How can we trust the CDC and the FDA to make sense of the data they produce on pandemic epidemics? Should we trust them? Is it possible that vaccines are safe? Can they be trusted? If so, should we be given the proper care? and is it a good idea to get them into the hands of the public? This episode is brought to you by Pfizer and Pfizer? Subscribe to Stay Free with Russell Brand to learn more about vaccines, privacy, and more. Stay Free! Stay free! Subscribe and spread the word to your friends about this podcast! Subscribe, share it on social media, and share it with your friends! To find out more like this podcast, click here: stay free with your fellow podcasting buddies! and let us know what you're listening to this podcast on your favourite podcasting platform! Thank you for listening and sharing it with a friend! Cheers, your host, you're going to see the future! in the future, you're gonna see The Future! - R.Breezy, R.R.B. - E.V. and R.E. by R.D. in this episode is a good thing? - P.B., R.S. ( ) - A.K. & W.A. (sic) - S.M. (?)
00:00:29.000Thank you for joining me today for Stay Free with Russell Brand for a very special conversation with Steve Kirsch, the entrepreneur and founder of the COVID-19 Early Treatment Fund, as well as the inventor of the optical mouse.
00:00:42.000We're talking about his vaccine activism, we're talking about his encounters with censorship, and in particular, We are talking about what could prove to be the pandemic's Edward Snowden.
00:00:53.000If Barry Young's revelations prove to be true, then this is gonna be a game changer because there's been a significant beta cap He's been in the UK talking to Parliament, among others with Andrew Bridgen, who's become a very significant voice in the pandemic truth movement, shall we call it that?
00:01:14.000So yeah, this is a conversation that if you are open-minded and you're interested in hearing some varied perspectives from an entrepreneur and someone who's done incredible research into this subject, then you should join us.
00:01:26.000But let me tell you, we're going to some places that are pretty extraordinary, but I know you guys are open-minded.
00:01:33.000Steve, thank you so much for joining us today.
00:02:02.000I have a unique perspective, which we'll talk about shortly.
00:02:07.000And so I came to the UK to speak with Parliament.
00:02:14.000There were over 20 members of Parliament present for that session, which actually surprised me, because I expected to see only Andrew Bridgen as the only member of Parliament, because normally when Andrew talks, everybody leaves the chamber.
00:02:30.000You know, there are 650 members of Parliament, and when he goes in, 649 leave, and they don't want to hear what he had to say.
00:02:41.000I was expecting maybe one member of Parliament, but we got 20.
00:02:46.000And they thanked us afterwards, and they said they had no idea about what was going on, and they wanted copies of the presentation, and they wanted follow-up, and they wanted to know what questions they needed to ask the regulators.
00:03:00.000And so I thought it was just marvelous.
00:03:03.000I was shocked, because I expected only to have Andrew as the only MP in the room.
00:03:12.000It was completely unexpected, and it just shows you how far we've come.
00:03:16.000Yeah, I'm pretty surprised to learn that as well, Steve.
00:03:19.000That's, I suppose, three or four percent, you know, and it's a global issue and it's a significant issue and I know by your reckoning it's an epochal and defining issue.
00:03:27.000The way that the pandemic unfolded, the way it affected democracy, the way it affected the pharmaceutical industry, the way it affected Personal liberty.
00:03:34.000And I suppose, yes, particularly while this COVID inquiry is taking place in our country, which many people believe to be, if not a staged event, many people believe it's certainly rather shallow when it comes to the depth of the inquiry, the type of questions that are being asked, and more significantly, the questions that are not being asked.
00:03:55.000Before we get into numerous subjects, notably and including Barry Young's data revelations from New Zealand and the terrifying
00:06:09.000Don't you know if you get two vaccinations, you don't have to wear a mask anymore?"
00:06:13.000And he said, well, I only got one, and I had a heart attack two minutes after I got the shot, and I had to spend the night in the hospital, and I've never felt the same since.
00:06:22.000And so when that happened, that was the other shoe to drop, and I started looking at the data, And I started investigating Taveras, and I basically put my job on hold because what I found was very troubling.
00:06:39.000So this anecdote that started it was impossible.
00:06:43.000If the shots only killed one in a million people, that anecdote is impossible.
00:06:50.000And the fact that the United States government could be lying to its people about the safety of a vaccine, for me, was unbelievable. And so, everything that I looked at in the
00:07:06.000data showed that these vaccines were killing massive numbers of people. So I wrote a 150-page
00:07:14.000article for Trial Site News on May 25th.
00:07:17.000And after I did that, I had a scientific advisory board that was focused on early treatments and
00:07:25.000approving grants, proposals for early treatments.
00:07:29.000They all resigned within a week after I published that article.
00:07:32.000They said I was a danger to society and that I should never talk to them again, and I asked Okay, so I wrote a 150-page article.
00:07:40.000Was there anything wrong in the article?
00:07:42.000They said, we don't want to talk to you.
00:08:21.000And that's what happened then and the same thing is happening now with what Barry Young did.
00:08:28.000It did seem in so many ways under scrutiny to be a unique event.
00:08:34.000Of course the emergence of a truly global pandemic was in itself significant and we'd not experienced anything like that.
00:08:46.000At the beginning of it, I think there was a good deal of trust.
00:08:49.000Then there was initially, and I think this is where independent media becomes significant, a round of questions that I became peripherally aware of, just perhaps because of the kind of space I work in, even though the pandemic period has changed my role in public life, to tell you the truth, as it evidently has done yours.
00:09:06.000Yeah, like I was always regarded as a somewhat kind of anti-establishment voice, but I've been part of the Hollywood establishment.
00:09:15.000I've sort of existed in those spheres and within media, but it's only since I've been speaking openly around these subjects that I've felt threatened in ways that, you know, were unconscionable prior to this.
00:09:26.000Because I think without independent media, I would not have, say someone like Joe Rogan, I wouldn't have heard the views of Jay Bhattacharya or David Martin or Peter McCulloch.
00:09:40.000And initially what they were saying, kind of like what you said about your 150 page account or essay, was It's a relatively circumspect inquiry.
00:09:53.000Is a lockdown the most effective way to handle this?
00:09:56.000Is it wise to vaccinate a population during a pandemic?
00:10:00.000Should a shielding policy be deployed?
00:10:05.000Is the best use of mRNA technology application and is it even really a vaccine as we've Typically understood vaccines questions were being asked right at the beginning that were regarded as you describe in your own account as hysteria and I suppose heresy that you were it was regarded as a kind of anti-orthodox position to even inquire and
00:10:29.000Certainly there was a lot of misinformation and doubt cast around any data that was detrimental to the advance of the vaccine program and that seems to have been your experience.
00:10:42.000Other than these anecdotal encounters from some people online and people that you've encountered, when did you first start to Acquire what you would regard as evidence that we were not being given accurate information when it comes to the adverse injuries and potential negative side effects of the vaccine.
00:11:03.000What were the significant data that you encountered?
00:11:06.000Well, I think the first significant data that was very clear was the VAERS database.
00:11:14.000So VAERS is the Vaccine Adversity Event Reporting System.
00:11:17.000It's equivalent to the Yellow Card System.
00:11:59.000And, you know, with the realization that there were more COVID shots given than a typical vaccine shot, and there are some issues with, you know, older people got the COVID vaccine versus other vaccines and so forth.
00:12:11.000So you had a You know, take that into account.
00:12:14.000But I was seeing like a thousand times higher incidence rate per dose of vaccine given with COVID shots for some things like, you know, pulmonary embolism, for example, was completely off the charts.
00:12:27.000And so it was amazing to me that the CDC wasn't seeing these safety signals because they were fairly obvious.
00:12:35.000And there is a I looked to see why the CDC wasn't seeing the safety signals.
00:12:40.000So I researched and found out what the formula was that they use to generate safety signals and discovered that there's a huge error in the formula that results in masking of these safety signals.
00:12:55.000And so I pointed out the error to the CDC, but they never responded.
00:12:59.000They basically said, we don't want to hear from you.
00:13:02.000You must submit it using the public comments.
00:13:06.000And of course, nobody reads the public comments, and so they basically black hole any input.
00:13:12.000And any attempts to reach out to members of the CDC outside committee are met with, you cannot talk to us this way, you must do it through submitting comments into the portal, and that we never read.
00:13:25.000And so there's this, again, this run from the data.
00:13:33.000It doesn't work if the vaccine is creating huge numbers of adverse events.
00:13:38.000It masks the ability to generate a safety signal.
00:13:42.000But it turns out that even though they have a bad formula, this vaccine is so bad,
00:13:50.000it generated 770 different safety signals.
00:13:54.000So it generated a safety signal for pulmonary embolism.
00:13:57.000It generates a safety signal for cardiac arrest.
00:14:00.000It generates a safety signal for menstrual hemorrhaging.
00:14:03.000It generated 770 different safety signals.
00:14:07.000And what's more important is that the CDC said nothing.
00:14:11.000They said nothing to the American public.
00:14:13.000So this is like a 770 alarm going off.
00:14:18.000You know, like, yeah, but one alarm fire, two alarm fire, three alarm fire.
00:14:22.000This is a 770 Alarm fire going off at the CDC, and they decided to say nothing to the public.
00:14:29.000The only way we actually found out about the 770 different safety signals is because someone sent a Freedom of Information Act request saying, hey, could we see the analysis that you did with your safety signal analysis?
00:14:43.000And they sent it, and lo and behold, 770 safety signals.
00:14:48.000And even after it was publicly released, the CDC continued to say nothing to the American public.
00:14:55.000I mean, the level of corruption here is, you know, I would never have believed it if you had told me this.
00:15:04.000It's a watershed event, I think, in the relationship between the public and the institutions of government and their relationships with, in particular, Big Pharma.
00:15:15.000So your initial forays into understanding the counter-narrative came from your own analysis and study of adverse reactions or yellow card events.
00:15:25.000And on that basis, which already, of course, is impeded by the fact that not every single person who experiences an adverse event is going to report it.
00:15:33.000even that is a sort of a subset, you were able to ascertain that the metrics that were being used to
00:15:39.000diagnose adverse events were impaired, perhaps deliberately, potentially not in a way that would
00:15:46.000mean it was very, very difficult to understand whether or not they were causing negative side
00:15:51.000effects. But even with that error, it was unignorably loud.
00:15:55.000And I'm having that experience that I have frequently, Steve, when I talk to people that
00:15:59.000are better informed than me on this subject, that have sort of a kind of rising tide of disbelief
00:16:07.000that this has become so significant that it's difficult to countenance because we have to, as
00:16:14.000we've already mentioned, incorporate into what you're telling us our understanding around
00:16:20.000censorship that was taking place, the campaigns to promote these vaccines.
00:16:25.000The effort that was undertaken to promote the idea that they prohibited transmission when there was never any clinical trials undertaken to undergird that claim.
00:16:39.000And I start to sort of feel a little overwhelmed by what has taken place.
00:16:44.000This is before we get into excess deaths.
00:16:47.000This is before we get into the effectiveness of the vaccine.
00:16:51.000And indeed the threat of coronavirus particularly in its later mutations and the average age of people that were you know sadly albeit expiring as a result of coronavirus itself.
00:17:04.000So there's no question that from your vantage point the vaccine was more dangerous Not only than coronavirus, but exponentially more dangerous.
00:17:17.000And according to even what we've discussed so far, this information cannot have been, the NIH say, or the numerous other agencies involved in the recommendation of these measures cannot have been oblivious to that fact.
00:17:34.000So already we're in some extraordinary territory.
00:17:37.000Yeah, well, you know, I think that there's this inability to, or there's this desire not to look at the data.
00:17:46.000And I talked to Janet Woodcock, who was at the time, she was the acting head of the FDA, And I said, Janet, you know, we have a big problem here in the VAERS database.
00:17:58.000And she said, well, that's just because you don't understand how to interpret the VAERS data.
00:18:16.000I kept pressing her and I said, well, you know, maybe you can correct me.
00:18:20.000Maybe you can connect me with one of your experts and we can have a on the record discussion about what's in the database because there's no way that this vaccine is safe.
00:18:33.000Between me and any of the people that worked for her on telling me, showing me how I got it wrong.
00:18:41.000So they're basically not willing to engage, and that's been the whole thing.
00:18:46.000You know, with this record-level data that we're going to talk about from Barry Young that was released from the New Zealand Ministry of Health, You know, that signal is crystal clear.
00:19:00.000And I contacted the CDC and the FDA, and I offered this data to them, and I also had a journalist in the medical field do the same thing, so that it wouldn't be, you know, me coming.
00:19:13.000But this person I disclosed it to, he agreed that there was a huge safety signal that the FDA and the CDC should be looking at this.
00:19:22.000It was offered to the CDC, to the FDA, to the California Department of Public Health, to Moderna and to Pfizer.
00:19:30.000All of them didn't want to look at the data.
00:19:33.000And the reason they don't want to look at the data, Russell, is very, very simple.
00:19:37.000If they look at the data, they have to agree that there's a safety signal and they have a responsibility to stop the shots.
00:19:46.000The whole deal is run from the data, make sure you don't see the data, because then you have plausible deniability.
00:19:53.000And so the CDC's response was, you know, it's safe and effective, and we're not interested in seeing any information that would be counter to what we know, because it must be wrong.
00:20:04.000And so they basically put blinders on and they refuse to see it.
00:20:09.000Now, the interesting thing is that the CDC never has any vaccination records.
00:20:15.000They only have the death records and they only have summary stats on how many people have been vaccinated.
00:20:21.000So they can't do the kind of analysis that is required in order to find a safety signal.
00:20:28.000Because they don't have the data to actually know.
00:20:31.000And so they tell the states, hey, it's safe and effective.
00:20:35.000And the states who have the data and could actually do the analysis don't even bother to do the analysis because the CDC tells them it's safe.
00:21:23.000And they responded and we said, we have no analysis whatsoever.
00:21:26.000We have no records responsive to your request.
00:21:29.000So in other words, California has never done a safety analysis of this vaccine.
00:21:34.000And the CDC is incapable of doing a safety analysis because they don't have the record level data.
00:21:40.000And so, again, it's the blind leading the blind, and so I contact California Department of Public Health.
00:21:45.000I said, hey, you know, we see this huge signal in the New Zealand data.
00:21:50.000It has to be in your data, too, because it's not only in the New Zealand data, it is also in the UK data, it's in the Israeli data, it's in the Maldives data, and it's got to be in your data, too.
00:22:04.000The answer is no, we don't want to see the data and we don't want to talk about it.
00:22:07.000Extraordinary because it seems to go beyond myopia into willfully turning the other way, although blindness may yet be an adverse side effect.
00:22:19.000It's possible that blindness is one of the things we'll have to look into in more detail.
00:22:22.000So from Initial intrepid personal interest, you quickly reach the point where it became plain that there was a lack of data available, that the interpretation of data was willfully inadequate, as you've not implied deliberately so, but rather that there's a kind of institutional recalcitrance when it comes to countenancing difficult facts, particularly if those facts are counterintuitive or counter-profitable or whatever.
00:22:56.000But I want to talk now more specifically about Barry Young and New Zealand.
00:23:00.000Now, my limited understanding of this issue is that Barry Young is under investigation, is in fact currently on trial for stealing or inappropriately misusing that data.
00:23:09.000Now, is it true that that data reveals that the vaccine is far more likely to cause fatality than has ever previously been suggested?
00:23:20.000And from your previous answer, I can understand that your supported Barry Young in these revelations and perhaps
00:25:16.000This is what we've been denied all this time, is access to the data that would show the truth.
00:25:23.000And nobody, nobody, nobody who is supporting the pro-vaccine narrative has ever called for any data transparency of the public health data.
00:25:34.000There is not a single person calling for data transparency.
00:25:38.000But, you know, there's not a paper that's published in the peer-reviewed literature, and I've checked, They're saying that, hey, if you withhold the data from the public, it leads to better health outcomes.
00:25:51.000You know, so if you want better health outcomes, you need to publish the data.
00:26:15.000I'll get into that, but here's the important thing.
00:26:19.000He proved that you could publish the data And nobody's privacy would be violated, but there's still statistical fidelity in the data.
00:26:31.000So we can obfuscate the data, but still have the statistical fidelity so we can do the analysis without violating anyone's privacy.
00:26:39.000This was thought to be impossible, and Barry has proved that it is possible to do, and not even the New Zealand Ministry of Health, or Health New Zealand, was able to figure out Whose records were published?
00:26:53.000They know it's their records, but we obfuscated it so there's no privacy violation, and this frustrates the hell out of them.
00:27:01.000Because the privacy violation would be the defense against revealing the information.
00:27:56.000And if you don't have a control group, we can't tell anything.
00:27:59.000And these are, you know, they call themselves scientists and they say, well, we have to have a control because, you know, how can you see a signal if you don't have control?
00:28:08.000You know, so if there's a mass shooting, for example, and 25 people are gunned down and they're all dead, police arrive.
00:28:17.000Do you think they're going to say, well, let's do a comorbidity analysis and we really need to look at the medical records because they could have died right before the shot?
00:28:26.000You know, you know, there are some things that are pretty obvious.
00:28:29.000If you give people the shot and six months later, half of them are dead, you don't need a control group on that one.
00:28:37.000You know, if it's for all age groups and so forth.
00:28:39.000Now, I'm not saying the signal is that large, but the point is that you don't need a control group.
00:28:45.000You know, scientists have been trained like, oh, well, you can't tell causality unless you have a double blind randomized control trial.
00:28:53.000You know, People are noticing this themselves.
00:28:56.000They've never seen so many unexpected deaths, right?
00:29:01.000And they're putting two and two together, and they didn't need a control group for that.
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00:30:42.000I know that there are extraordinary narratives emerging around such subjects like low-risk
00:30:45.000Long Covid and even with myocarditis and pericarditis, there was an attempt to sort of imply that these could be conditions emerging from coronavirus itself to mitigate the stories that have subsequently been verified and accepted by Pfizer.
00:31:03.000That is concomitant with the vaccination process.
00:31:06.000In addition to the AstraZeneca story here in this country, where for a while they tried to mitigate and control that story, but eventually became unavoidable.
00:31:16.000But Barry Young's revelation, if what you're saying is true, then Barry Young is a kind of Edward Snowden of the pandemic era, finally giving us data that just cannot be countenanced without new and extraordinary levels of propaganda.
00:31:32.000And, you know, just like Snowden, they're criminalizing the guy who's trying to expose the criminal.
00:31:57.000So the lot analysis is for lot number one, who was it given to, how many people died, what percentage of the people died, and it's confounded because of things like what was the average age of the people who got it and when was it given.
00:32:09.000So if you have a lot that was given to very old people at the very beginning of the vaccination period versus a lot that was given to very young people very late in the pandemic.
00:32:26.000Those are going to have completely different percentages of people who died.
00:32:30.000And so you have to take all of that into account and you can be fooled very easily if you don't do a careful analysis of that.
00:32:36.000And so I just focused on the big picture.
00:32:38.000There's a standardized way to do this.
00:32:40.000It's called a time series cohort analysis.
00:32:44.000We have a tool that does it as soon as we got the data.
00:32:47.000It took us two hours to run through a program.
00:32:49.000It took us five minutes of effort to format the data.
00:32:54.000And then we waited two hours, and out pops this file, which we bring into an Excel spreadsheet, and then we can do these data visualizations.
00:33:02.000There are four different independent variables, and we have graphs of all four.
00:33:09.000So there's this little dashboard, so to speak, and then you can move the knobs.
00:33:13.000There are four different knobs you can move, and you say, oh, what if I move this knob
00:33:40.000And those numbers, they correspond with other analyses that other people have done.
00:33:44.000So Dennis Rancourt did an analysis, he found very similar numbers,
00:33:49.000one death per 800 people in large populations, very close to our number of one per thousand.
00:33:56.000And so his estimates of 17 million people killed worldwide, very similar to 13 million people worldwide.
00:34:03.000But at this point, we're rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic here, because that thing has killed over 10 million people worldwide, and nobody's paying attention.
00:34:13.000And nobody wants to have a little debate with me.
00:34:17.000Like, before the show, I sent an email to the UK ONS, the Office of National Statistics, and I sent it to Sarah Call, and I sent it to the data people, you know, just to make sure everybody got it, and there's no response.
00:34:36.000I called Sarah on her phone, I sent her direct email to her direct email address, I heard
00:35:01.000And nobody wants to go on camera in a recorded discussion where we can have a discussion like we're having now, and let's talk about what the data shows.
00:35:12.000That is a sign of a very corrupt Yes, the total lack of transparency and an unwillingness to debate and the censoring of your opponents and the smearing of opponents, as happened to Robert Malone Bachari and all the names that I usually list, is an indication that there is some malfeasance rather than ineptitude potentially at play.
00:35:34.000And I imagine that the legacy media, other than regional or Antipodean or New Zealand news, are not covering this in detail, except to say that there's been sort of a criminal act Committed by Barry Young.
00:35:46.000And one thing just to clear up on this please, Steve.
00:35:50.000Is it then that whilst Barry Young didn't publish the data of the personal identities or ages, that the data set that you have initially included the information on the ages?
00:36:03.000Did it include at what point they received the medication as well?
00:36:08.000Wow, so it's a pretty complete data set and the New Zealand government must have
00:36:13.000had it and like unlike in California where they don't track how many people
00:36:16.000are being vaccinated in New Zealand they do so in New Zealand they
00:36:20.000would have at some point surely been exposed to the reality wait a second it
00:36:24.000looks like a significant unprecedented number of people are dying as a
00:36:28.000result of this vaccine. Right but you see they never looked that's the
00:37:21.000And if they put me in jail for seven years, I will not see my family for seven years.
00:37:26.000And he was willing to sacrifice himself for to save lives, and I have the utmost respect for him doing that.
00:37:37.000And before he went public with this, I advised him, hey, you need to send an email to your supervisors and let them know that you found a safety signal that's the right thing to do before you go and release this data.
00:37:57.000I said, you should send them my analysis, and he didn't do that.
00:38:02.000Because, you know, he could be mocked as saying, well, he's not a statistical expert.
00:38:06.000But if he sends the analysis that we did with the time series cohort analysis, they shouldn't be able to have a response saying, well, he didn't consult with anyone.
00:39:31.000They took my data down and they said, well, we're going to do an investigation.
00:39:35.000But they never even called me to hear my side of the story.
00:39:38.000It's almost like the news media nowadays, where they only want to hear one side of the story.
00:39:42.000What's even worse is that Kevin McKernan, I was asking, hey, I need bulletproof hosting, you know, they nuked my data.
00:39:48.000And Kevin McKernan, who is the guy who exposed the DNA contamination, he has tons of data.
00:39:56.000He has almost a terabyte of data on Mega, which is a platform hosted in New Zealand.
00:40:01.000And what happened is after he mirrored my database on his server, Mega basically nuked his entire Everything that Kevin had put up there, a terabyte of data, and he didn't have it backed up.
00:40:17.000They nuked it and they said, we're not going to give you access to the data because you have a gross violation of our terms of service, which is preposterous because this is data that I created.
00:40:30.000This is derivative work from the New Zealand data.
00:40:58.000Like, if they can do this to Kevin's data, they can do it to anyone's data.
00:41:02.000And, you know, their terms of service, their agreement says, oh, and by the way, our liability is, you know, only to how much you paid and maybe we'll refund your money if you win.
00:41:12.000So Kevin lost hundreds of thousands of dollars and years of research work when MEGA Improperly took him down because the New Zealand Ministry of Health said take it down.
00:41:25.000I mean, Kevin was certainly outraged and I'm outraged they did that to Kevin's work because Kevin's work is extremely important for the safety of the vaccines and these, you know, the SV40 promoter sequence, that's all Kevin's work.
00:41:39.000The DNA adulteration in these vaccines, that's all Kevin's work.
00:41:44.000All that data was removed, deleted, At this point, Steve, doesn't it seem difficult to accept that it's a combination of ineptitude and negligence when we pursue, just off the top of my head, the incredible expenditure on propagandizing those measures, the incredible efforts to infiltrate social media, as revealed in the Twitter files, the censoring of legitimate voices, the amplification of pro-vaccination voices, the attempts
00:42:19.000To discredit anyone that was inquiring or questioning the effectiveness of vaccines, the ongoing censoring and smearing of anybody that speaks out on these issues.
00:42:31.000It seems to me to be a matter of such scale that it's, and indeed just if we were to take in isolation Barry Young's revelations, if we take this data and you say it's somewhat corroborated by independent studies...
00:42:53.000And then, of course, what you've just said, again, about the deletion of the data.
00:43:00.000But what we're dealing with is almost an unconscionable, maybe indefatigable force.
00:43:08.000That we'll go to any lengths to ensure that these kind of stories aren't promoted.
00:43:14.000I mean, if you think of some of the pivotal moments during the pandemic, whether they're sort of things that are broadly expected, like people learning, or maybe subsequent waves, even if we say that the initial wave was impactful, the subsequent waves of coronavirus were not as impactful as was assumed and as was promoted, that lockdowns didn't work, that the medications are not effective all the
00:43:38.000way up to now the medications to a significant degree are lethal, that we're
00:43:43.000censoring true information, that we're promoting untrue information, that if that is almost
00:43:48.000something that can't be reckoned with, because how would what kind of judicial process would be
00:43:58.000What kind of interests would have to be opposed?
00:44:01.000We're talking about something at this point that, you know, take the COVID inquiry.
00:44:04.000What's interesting about the COVID inquiry in the UK?
00:44:08.000is again it's a lack of latitude and it's lack of depth. It seems in fact organized simply to
00:44:15.000conclude that there was some just a couple of individuals that were a bit laissez-faire and a
00:44:23.000few poor choices. Matt Hancock, the health minister's a bit of a fool and this but you
00:44:28.000know like they don't even look at sort of information that's I would say we're not in the
00:44:33.000you know the periphery of the dark net to observe that Jonathan Van Tam who is a notable public
00:44:39.000voice in this country now works for Moderna. That Rishi Sunak invested in Moderna before
00:44:45.000becoming chancellor and then prime minister. That I myself have been subject to an investigation by
00:44:52.000Moderna and subsequently Beans experienced an incredible series of media attacks that have had unbelievable consequences and it seems to me that to address this issue would take like what kind of machine other than mass popular uprising could ever bring about the reckoning that's required if what you are saying is true Steve?
00:45:23.000How are you maintaining your optimism?
00:45:25.000What are your next steps and what are your personal fears and what resources do you have to continue to operate at this level when it's likely that the consequences will be quite serious?
00:45:36.000Yeah, so I think that what's going on is most people are believing the so-called experts.
00:45:45.000And like, you know, our friends, for example, I'd say we lost 98% of our friends because
00:45:52.000they think I'm mistaken, I don't know what I'm talking about, I'm not qualified and so
00:46:00.000And so anybody who opposes this narrative is put in the same sort of situation I am.
00:46:05.000And, you know, I talked to a Silicon Valley chief executive that I know, and I said, hey,
00:46:14.000And I told him what I was doing nowadays.
00:46:15.000And I said, do you want to talk about it?
00:46:17.000And he said, no, it'd be like if you were to come to me and said the moon is made of Swiss cheese, I wouldn't want to talk to you about it.
00:46:23.000And so that's what we're dealing with.
00:46:25.000We're dealing with people who believe that anybody who opposes what the Harvard professors say or what the CDC says and what the FDA says, is wrong, and that's just not the case.
00:46:38.000People need to hear both sides, and they're not hearing both sides.
00:46:41.000The media is only covering one side of the story.
00:46:43.000They never allow any kind of dissent to come out, and of course the censorship, you know, is just huge.
00:46:53.000But what gives me hope is things like the Andrew Bridgen meeting in Parliament, because Parliament now has a way Now that the—see, the genie is out of the bottle.
00:47:05.000Barry basically exposed the—you know, the genie's out of the bottle.
00:47:10.000Everybody knows now what the data shows, and there's only one way to interpret that data correctly.
00:47:15.000Now, a lot of people don't know how to analyze the data, but if you do it correctly, There's only one result, which is massive deaths.
00:47:25.000And so we now have over 20 members of parliament who have now said, hmm, this isn't looking good.
00:47:38.000There's only one way to interpret it, and this vaccine is going down.
00:47:42.000Now, they have to say, no, so which side of the narrative do I want to be on?
00:47:46.000Do I want to be on the right side of history or the wrong side of history?
00:47:49.000And so They're starting to come to grips with that, and they're wondering, like, hey, if we announce this to the public and let them know, we're going to have mass panic.
00:47:57.000And I said, no, you're going to have mass relief.
00:47:59.000You're going to have mass relief that people finally are waking up to what's going on.
00:48:04.000Because, look, in America, 42% of the people want to bring a class action against, would join a class action against the drug, the vaccine companies.
00:48:14.00042% of Americans They don't want to join a class action.
00:48:19.000That would be the largest class action in history.
00:48:24.000So the public knows it, but the legislators are pretending like the public doesn't know it because they're like, you know, we can't believe that survey.
00:48:34.000But it's from Rasmussen Reports, which is one of the top pollsters in the country.
00:48:40.000And they've been very accurate historically on their polls.
00:48:44.000Nobody's running a poll that shows anything different.
00:48:47.000Russell, they won't even ask the question.
00:48:50.000And 25% of Americans know someone who died from the vaccine.
00:48:55.000In fact, my chauffeur here who brought me today, I asked him, hey, do you know anyone who died from the vaccine?
00:50:33.000No polling organization will try to replicate that poll.
00:50:36.000But, it's happening, and it's moving, and, you know, what's going to happen is that the Members of Parliament are going to require that the UK ONS release the record-level data, because they're going to say, hey look, look what happened, Barry released it, nobody died!
00:50:55.000Nobody died, you know, because the information was released.
00:51:17.000Where they ask the ONS people that question in a hearing in Parliament.
00:51:24.000And when that happens, Russell, that will bring the house down because the UK data will show the same thing that the New Zealand data shows.
00:51:35.000And it will show that the ONS is incompetent To be able to spot safety signals in the data and they will be embarrassed beyond all recognition.
00:51:46.000It will show just how naive, stupid, and inept these public health agencies are that they can't even properly analyze their own data.
00:51:58.000I think perhaps Barry Young may be the turning point.
00:54:06.000I know you've made a lot of personal sacrifices to tell the truth and we really appreciate what you've done.
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