Stay Free - Russel Brand - BREAK BREAD EP. 11 - NATHAN FINOCHIO

00:00:00.000 Does that thing give any heat up?

00:00:03.000 They can, but it's just...

00:00:05.000 Yeah, they're muted.

00:00:07.000 I knew that if I got a cut from the clubhouse that it would look like that.

00:00:19.000 I know.

00:00:21.000 Totally.

00:00:23.000 It looks like it was used once thrown.

00:00:25.000 Yeah.

00:00:27.000 Which is appropriate.

00:00:28.000 Entirely. Entirely. Entirely. Entirely. Entirely.

00:00:38.000 Entirely.

00:00:40.000 Thank you.

00:01:10.000 Is that the start?

00:01:14.000 How do you feel about him in general?

00:01:16.000 Like, this wasn't the first time, was it?

00:01:18.000 This is, like, kind of a straw that breaks the camel's back, kind of.

00:01:22.000 Is that a start or a ultra-back thing?

00:01:25.000 Yes, sir.

00:01:26.000 Well, on screen is the logo, guys.

00:01:31.000 Thank you very much.

00:01:33.000 And also, give me cues, cos otherwise I, like, sort of, like, yo, Russell, and just chat to me, like, normally, cos otherwise I'm, like, I feel like I'm...

00:01:42.000 Adrift.

00:01:43.000 Thanks.

00:01:44.000 Cool.

00:01:45.000 Hello.

00:01:46.000 Thanks for joining us, Nathan.

00:01:50.000 The pleasure is all mine, Russell.

00:01:53.000 Nathan, I've just come back from Washington, D.C. It's very interesting.

00:02:01.000 I want to talk to you about it.

00:02:03.000 I want to say hello first of all to everyone that's watching us on Rumble Premium.

00:02:08.000 And like that, you're going to have to turn your cans down, guys, or have your cans on your ears because I can hear other stuff.

00:02:15.000 Thanks.

00:02:16.000 And it's, yeah, hello to everyone watching me on Rumble Premium.

00:02:23.000 Hello all of you watching on Locals.

00:02:27.000 It's a really weird time in your country, Nathan.

00:02:30.000 Let me just tell people so that we have an intro for you.

00:02:34.000 You know, in case people don't know who you are, Nathan Finocchio is a Canadian-born theologian, author, and teaching pastor.

00:02:40.000 He's the founder of Theo, Theo, how do I say that?

00:02:45.000 Theosho. 0.73

00:02:46.000 Greek is a dead language, but you do whatever you want.

00:02:52.000 Yeah.

00:02:53.000 That's pretty good.

00:02:54.000 Theosu, because there's so many conversations about semantics at the moment, and it's only really mouth noises, but mouth noises could be an expression of the Holy Spirit.

00:03:03.000 Oh, we'll get into it.

00:03:05.000 Theoseminary institution...

00:03:07.000 Wow, hold on, look at all these things!

00:03:09.000 Founder of Theosu and Theoseminary institutions dedicated to providing accessible, theologically sound biblical education.

00:03:18.000 So if there's one conversation I need to have this morning, it's with you, because I do need accessible.

00:03:23.000 There's no point in being esoteric and confusing and designed to obfuscate and keep people on the outside.

00:03:30.000 I don't need that.

00:03:30.000 But I also need it to be theologically sound.

00:03:32.000 So, Nathan, I can see why you have...

00:03:35.000 We've accrued so much success reaching people that otherwise might not have the benefit of learning the deep truths that are available to us in the Holy Book.

00:03:45.000 But before we get into it, I've still got a bit more of the introduction.

00:03:47.000 This is still the introduction phase, Nathan.

00:03:49.000 Nathan has offered several books.

00:03:52.000 Hearing God eliminate myths, encounter meaning.

00:03:57.000 Oh, you've got good titles.

00:03:59.000 And killer church, why some just survive and others thrive in the presence of God.

00:04:04.000 His latest book, 30 Day Shred, this feels like departure, is a devotional reading for the entire Bible in a month.

00:04:13.000 It can't be done.

00:04:16.000 Nathan, you can't do the Bible in a month.

00:04:21.000 Can you?

00:04:22.000 It's being done.

00:04:24.000 Thousands of people do it every January with me.

00:04:28.000 Hold on a minute.

00:04:29.000 I'm doing it in a year and it's actually quite taxing.

00:04:33.000 I know.

00:04:34.000 And I think that the devil designed the yearly, the annual Bible reading plan. 0.83

00:04:40.000 You know, to heed contemplation on Christians, you can't show up. 1.00

00:04:43.000 And I don't think that we were designed for, like, a year-long season.

00:04:46.000 I think we're designed for a sprint.

00:04:47.000 Personally, I think reading the Bible in 30 days is way easier than reading in a year.

00:04:52.000 Hold on.

00:04:53.000 So, you're saying that the cycle of a year is, by its nature, pagan.

00:04:58.000 Like, it's a kind of cosmological reference to...

00:05:01.000 To go around the sun.

00:05:03.000 So why do you think it's sort of satanic and satanine?

00:05:08.000 But reading in a month, I'd have to do, but I'm just going to use maths here, I'd have to do 12 times as much reading per day, and I'd have to do it every day.

00:05:19.000 So how does the course work?

00:05:23.000 It's about two hours of reading, one to two hours of reading a day.

00:05:27.000 And, I mean, like, if you, like, stop doomscrolling, And, you know, quit Fortnite for 30 days.

00:05:38.000 Like, we can get it done.

00:05:40.000 It can be done.

00:05:42.000 You're right about that.

00:05:43.000 I mean, what are you actually doing?

00:05:44.000 I mean, it wouldn't hurt me to read the Bible for two hours a day.

00:05:48.000 But is that included, including embedded commentary and guidance?

00:05:54.000 Or is that two hours of pure scripture and then your stuff?

00:05:59.000 Yeah, so here's my take.

00:06:01.000 My take is that typically when we're reading devotionally, it's kind of like examining the leaves of Scripture.

00:06:07.000 And I think that one of the things that many people lack is context.

00:06:11.000 And so when you take in the Bible in 30 days, you're not mining for gold necessarily.

00:06:17.000 You're looking for hitting a vein.

00:06:20.000 So rather than looking at the leaf of the tree, you're looking at the shape of the tree.

00:06:27.000 And that will then inform the rest of your devotional reading.

00:06:32.000 So when you take it all in that quickly, it is more of a bus tour.

00:06:37.000 But you're going to see major themes in Scripture.

00:06:41.000 And I think that those...

00:06:44.000 Chesterton once said that a couple big ideas are way better than a lot of little ideas.

00:06:49.000 And I think that context is what is many times lacking in a believer.

00:06:56.000 So, those are my thoughts.

00:06:58.000 I suppose, Nathan, there are many ways that you could contextualize something, even contextualization itself, which feels like a general appeal to find objectivity, like context, like this is it as an object in context.

00:07:12.000 But see how something like the bishop, I can't remember her name, but the bishop that gave the sermon the other day, I reckon, I've not looked.

00:07:24.000 Although I have looked at some internet, but I've not looked at so much internet as to overwhelm me.

00:07:30.000 I bet there's some people saying that scripturally what she did was spot on and correct, and other people saying that it was sort of heretical or disrespectful or something.

00:07:44.000 And I feel like...

00:07:46.000 The only way that I would be able to travel through such a subject would be, as you've just described, and using the Chesterton example.

00:07:57.000 Jeff Cavins said to me, I think on this show, the plain things are the main things, and the main things are the plain things.

00:08:06.000 So, and also experientially when I'm encountering scripture, like if I sort of go, if I like word by word, break it down, not that I don't enjoy that when people tell you the Greek root and the various ways that could have been translated.

00:08:17.000 If I was trying to do that on my own every day, I think I would freak out.

00:08:21.000 But when all of a sudden after sort of just reading and trying my best to sort of go, okay, this is just narrative.

00:08:26.000 Say if it's Matthew or if it's something like demanding from the Old Testament where it could, say when it just suddenly does a lot of lineage and sort of history.

00:08:38.000 I'm like, oh, this is pretty demanding.

00:08:40.000 And then out of nowhere, I'll get hit with something that's like, oh, you're speaking to me deeply now.

00:08:47.000 Like, even today, in today's, I mean, Bible in a year, which you're now suggesting might be satanic worship, Nathan.

00:08:56.000 Like, when I was reading that this morning, it was like, he's saying, our Lord, he's saying...

00:09:05.000 Let me just get it right.

00:09:07.000 Like he's saying, the blind follow the blind.

00:09:10.000 It's that bit.

00:09:11.000 If you're following the blind, you both end up in a pit.

00:09:14.000 And Peter goes, can you break that down a bit?

00:09:17.000 And he goes, oh, come on!

00:09:20.000 Like, he says something like, are you so dull in my translation?

00:09:23.000 But I really felt, like, when I was reading it, I felt like Jesus is mucking around a little bit.

00:09:27.000 Like, he's going, how many times have I explained this to you? 0.99

00:09:30.000 Because then he goes on to say, what goes into your mouth comes out of your butt, more or less. 1.00

00:09:35.000 And then he goes, but what goes into your mouth comes out of your butt. 1.00

00:09:38.000 But what comes out of your mouth is coming from your heart. 0.99

00:09:42.000 And I really sort of felt the humour.

00:09:44.000 And grace in him.

00:09:46.000 And I really felt like permission to be who I am from him.

00:09:49.000 And it's not like all, you know, like then the next bit, like because he's doing Old Testament as well, it was a bit of, it was a little bit where Joseph, Joseph's brothers have come to see him and he's like...

00:10:01.000 I would say messing with their heads a bit.

00:10:04.000 Oh, there's silver in your backpack.

00:10:06.000 How'd that silver get in there?

00:10:07.000 How'd that goblet get in there?

00:10:09.000 Now that, I'm a bit more perplexed by and reflecting on.

00:10:14.000 I'm like, why is there this...

00:10:15.000 Aspect of Joseph that is, you know, I understand narratively why that might be because of their actions, but biblically, scripturally and spiritually didn't entirely get hit by it.

00:10:25.000 So I can see, Nathan, the validity of that approach, even with this new book.

00:10:29.000 Now, would you take us through the Eucharist or communion or break bread with us?

00:10:35.000 And will you lead it?

00:10:37.000 Because, hold on a minute, like, theologically sound biblical education.

00:10:41.000 And accessibility is exactly how I'd like to break bread and drink the blood today, if that's okay.

00:10:48.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:10:52.000 So I like this.

00:10:55.000 I went sacramental in my 20s, meaning like I was raised in the Pentecostal tradition where the elements were sort of reduced to mere Symbolism.

00:11:13.000 You know, brought my own bread.

00:11:16.000 Thank you.

00:11:17.000 There's quite a lot of bread.

00:11:18.000 Are you not going to eat all of that, are you?

00:11:21.000 Well, I'm going to have to.

00:11:22.000 I mean, I can't do that.

00:11:27.000 So, I believe that there's power in communion.

00:11:35.000 And when, you know, the scriptures say that when Judas...

00:11:42.000 When did that happen?

00:11:47.000 this happens at the last supper yeah and so there's every time you eat a bit something's going to happen um in first corinthians 11 uh you know you got people that are dying in this church spiritually physically because they're not eating at the table of the lord in a in a worthy manner but rather in an unworthy manner And I remember that really messing with me.

00:12:13.000 And so, you know, in 1 Corinthians 10, yeah, you read this and you're like, okay, I'll never eat communion again.

00:12:19.000 1 Corinthians 10, Paul calls it the cup of blessing.

00:12:23.000 But then in 1 Corinthians 11, it becomes the opposite.

00:12:27.000 So for Judas...

00:12:29.000 You know, he eats, the devil enters into him, but then on the road to Emmaus, people eat and Christ is revealed.

00:12:35.000 And so, like, the first worship service in the Bible ever, people died.

00:12:44.000 Cain and Abel, you know, somebody died.

00:12:47.000 Nadab and Abi, who was the first priest in the Bible at the, you know, worship service, they die.

00:12:56.000 Uzzah. 1.00

00:12:58.000 David's bringing the ark of the Lord into Jerusalem, and Uzziah doesn't follow the order properly. 1.00

00:13:04.000 He dies.

00:13:05.000 Uzziah is a priest. 0.95

00:13:06.000 He's a king.

00:13:07.000 He tries to do priestly things.

00:13:09.000 He goes into the temple.

00:13:10.000 He dies.

00:13:11.000 And that's the Old Testament.

00:13:13.000 And some people would be like, well, I'm not an Old Testament Christian.

00:13:17.000 I don't need to worry about that because I'm on the other side of the cross.

00:13:20.000 It's kind of like there's Old Testament God, there's New Testament God, and Old Testament God is beating you with a phone book.

00:13:26.000 You know, in the interrogation room and then Jesus comes in and he's like, you know, hauling the father off of you and he gives you a cigarette and you're just like, thank you for saving me from that guy.

00:13:36.000 And that is sort of the dichotomy that many have with the Old Testament, New Testament.

00:13:39.000 But then if you continue to read the New Testament.

00:13:42.000 People keep dying at worship services.

00:13:44.000 Ananias and Sapphira.

00:13:46.000 And then you have the Corinthians.

00:13:48.000 And so I remember that kind of like messing with me.

00:13:51.000 And, you know, I believe in grace.

00:13:53.000 I believe in the grace of God.

00:13:54.000 But there's a way to eat and there's a way not to eat.

00:13:57.000 And the way to eat of the table of the Lord is to be, I'm a sinner.

00:14:01.000 I'm a mess.

00:14:02.000 I need you, God.

00:14:04.000 That's the appropriate way.

00:14:05.000 The way not to eat is to go, this is all about me.

00:14:11.000 Contextually, in 1 Corinthians 11, when people are eating at the table of the Lord in an unworthy manner, rich people were eating all the food, they're getting drunk, they're leaving nothing for other people, and they were making essentially Christianity or church, spirituality, all about themselves, about manifestation, rather than coming in and going, I'm a hot mess, I need God.

00:14:32.000 And I think that when we come to the table of the Lord and we break bread, And we eat the bread and we drink the wine and we go, God, in the Catholic Mass, there's this scripture that they read together and they say, they recite it before they take the Eucharist.

00:14:52.000 Lord, I'm not worthy that you should enter my home.

00:14:54.000 Only say the word and my soul will be healed.

00:14:57.000 And if we have that posture, then taking communion isn't just remembering Christ's death.

00:15:03.000 It's eating and drinking grace and power into your life that literally changes you.

00:15:08.000 And that's what sacramental means.

00:15:11.000 It means that this isn't just remembrance.

00:15:14.000 Somehow this mystically turns into grace when I eat it, and I desperately need grace.

00:15:21.000 Like, the table of the Lord is for sinners.

00:15:23.000 It's for people who need God and confess their need for Him.

00:15:26.000 And as we do that and we eat, somehow we're eating and drinking power into our life.

00:15:32.000 And that's what I mean by sacramental.

00:15:33.000 And once you go sac, you never go back.

00:15:38.000 Let's go.

00:15:39.000 Thanks, mate.

00:15:40.000 Will you talk us through it?

00:15:43.000 Yeah.

00:15:44.000 Thanks.

00:15:44.000 Yeah, so Jesus, he said, you know, take this in my body.

00:15:49.000 It's broken for you.

00:15:50.000 And so, you know, we break the bread and we just go, Lord, thank you for your broken body.

00:15:55.000 We desperately need your broken body.

00:15:57.000 And we thank you that, you know, your body.

00:16:00.000 He who knew no sin became sin so that we could become the righteousness of God.

00:16:06.000 So, Lord, we thank you for your broken body.

00:16:08.000 Russell and I, we need it, and we eat it today in faith, knowing that your power and your grace is coming into our life in Jesus' name.

00:16:21.000 Thank you, Father.

00:16:23.000 Thank you.

00:16:25.000 And then we take the cup.

00:16:27.000 Blessings.

00:16:29.000 And Jesus, we thank you that you tasted blood so that we could taste the wine of life.

00:16:39.000 And so we drink it today just thanking you.

00:16:45.000 By his stripes, we are healed.

00:16:47.000 Amen.

00:16:55.000 Thank you, Nathan.

00:16:57.000 Since coming to Christ, I've been experiencing...

00:16:59.000 I think my mic's too hot, guys, and I think you should bring it down 20%.

00:17:02.000 From where it is now, there's a lot of comments about hot mics, so just bring it down about 20%.

00:17:07.000 Isaac, give them notes on whether or not that's worked.

00:17:12.000 Cheers, thanks very much.

00:17:17.000 Since coming to Christ, or Christ coming to me, what I've been surprised by is the...

00:17:24.000 Because some people are saying, Russ was a noisy eater, my mic's too heavy.

00:17:27.000 You can't be objective about sound when you're receiving it via a conduit.

00:17:33.000 You can only be objective about sound when you are in the presence.

00:17:38.000 If you receive the message via even technological means, you don't know what amplification and interpretation has taken place.

00:17:46.000 I am not a noisy eater, and you must experience Jesus within you as flesh.

00:17:51.000 Those are the two points that can be made.

00:17:54.000 Right there.

00:17:56.000 Thanks, man.

00:17:58.000 And what's happened to me lately...

00:18:01.000 It's weird to say this.

00:18:04.000 I'll see if I can make sense of it.

00:18:06.000 I feel like I'm experiencing Christ in ways that are really astonishing and surprising me.

00:18:11.000 This is as best as I can understand it.

00:18:13.000 There was a day where I was in an airport in Nashville, Nashville Airport, a couple of weeks ago, and I felt like this is how it came in my mind.

00:18:21.000 I see them as he sees them.

00:18:24.000 Now, normally, that would be super narcissistic.

00:18:31.000 Super narcissistic thing, because I'm sort of saying I'm seeing how God sees.

00:18:35.000 But it didn't feel like that.

00:18:37.000 It didn't feel like...

00:18:37.000 Oh, blessed are my children.

00:18:40.000 It felt like, oh my God, everyone's beautiful.

00:18:44.000 Everyone's really trying their best.

00:18:45.000 And it just happened all of a sudden.

00:18:46.000 I was in an airport and these kids were off on a ski holiday.

00:18:50.000 And everyone I encountered, I saw the beauty.

00:18:52.000 Even the person as I was putting my shoes in the tray thing, who was overly authoritative.

00:18:57.000 I was just like, oh, and they're being how they're meant to be.

00:19:00.000 It didn't touch me.

00:19:01.000 It didn't touch me.

00:19:02.000 And there's other things happen where I'm seeing in people, in others, I'm pointing at Jake here, who I work with, who produces the show, where I sort of see the sort of valor and strength of Christ and feel like, oh, there's such beauty in people.

00:19:15.000 There's such beauty in people.

00:19:17.000 And it's, like, it's not, like, normally in the past, if anything happened to me, I felt it was kind of about me.

00:19:26.000 So it either elevated me or somehow degenerated or...

00:19:31.000 Forgive the word.

00:19:32.000 Desecrated me.

00:19:33.000 But now, I feel like it's nothing to do with me.

00:19:38.000 I'm just sort of at it.

00:19:40.000 I'm just a living sacrifice.

00:19:43.000 Continual renewal of the mind.

00:19:44.000 Like, I am a tabernacle.

00:19:46.000 So, like, when I'm at this thing in Washington, I've just been in Washington, D.C. It's so overstimulating and overwhelming.

00:19:55.000 The thing that most impacted me is that I was at an event called Helping a hero, right?

00:20:03.000 I think that's the name because I'm still not satisfied that whatever their name is, it doesn't land good as a name.

00:20:09.000 You should name their organization.

00:20:11.000 I mean, because Theos U and Theos Seminary, good, but the books in particular, Hearing Good, Eliminate Myths, Encounter Meaning and Killer Church, and 30 Day Shred, good names.

00:20:22.000 I'll remember 30 Day Shred. 0.56

00:20:24.000 Anyway, like, but...

00:20:26.000 Even though I might have my criticisms of the name, and what do I know?

00:20:30.000 Sorry, because they might watch this one and go, we've worked hard on that name!

00:20:34.000 Meredith, who runs that organization, that build adapted homes for war veterans, as well as the veterans I met there that day, Daniel, Amos, Jason, Ox, many others.

00:20:47.000 It was a beautiful and overwhelming experience that pulled together so many things.

00:20:57.000 Don't say to me I need a quiet day.

00:20:59.000 I'm actually trying my hardest.

00:21:00.000 I'm working.

00:21:01.000 I'm working.

00:21:02.000 As I was told by a very great director, what's his name?

00:21:07.000 Ian Rickson.

00:21:07.000 If you are tired, you bring your tiredness.

00:21:11.000 And he said that as a director.

00:21:12.000 Before, you know, the Lord, you give it all to him.

00:21:16.000 You give it all to him.

00:21:17.000 Now, I recognize that scripturally there is a day of rest, and there will be one.

00:21:21.000 But today, I have an appointment with Nathan, and I do my appointment with Nathan, because if you get a gas bill for $60, that's God's way of saying, pay a gas bill for $60.

00:21:32.000 Unless you've concluded that there's an evil government, you know, sort of controlled by Luciferian forces, in which case you might want to oppose them.

00:21:39.000 And you will determine...

00:21:42.000 Which side of government you would evaluate?

00:21:45.000 Unless you've surrendered to God absolutely, then you wouldn't even have an opinion on that, seeing it as somehow trivial.

00:21:51.000 Anyway, so at that event, they're helping a hero, home for a hero, help a hero, help a hero have a home, where they build adapted homes for war veterans.

00:22:00.000 I met double amputees and a man, Zero, with facial burns from an explosion. 0.94

00:22:08.000 But what...

00:22:09.000 What really was amazing is because their proximity to Christ was so vivid, Nathan, and real, quickly all melted away.

00:22:21.000 All melted away.

00:22:22.000 Like, I mean, the disabilities became...

00:22:25.000 Obviously irrelevant.

00:22:26.000 And because they were so robust in him and so powerful.

00:22:29.000 And it struck me that the warrior's life is more pronounced and concentrated and that's why in culture we're drawn to warriors and criminals and why their stories and narratives are so fascinating.

00:22:38.000 And to hear of such extreme and bizarre and awful suffering and then to see its results clarified in me what the nature of suffering is about and where suffering can take you.

00:22:54.000 And I felt so gifted and blessed to be with them.

00:22:58.000 And that thing happened, Nathan.

00:22:59.000 After, like, the lady Meredith who was running the event sort of went around the room pointing at, and this is Jason, and he's now sort of an athlete for the Warriors events, and this is Oz, and he lost his leg.

00:23:13.000 Like, you know, I'm not remembering the correct injuries to person, but I, like, was starting to get, like, emotional, right?

00:23:19.000 And then when it got to Amos, like...

00:23:22.000 She went like his father died, his brother died in service, and then he was injured in combat.

00:23:28.000 I looked at him, this young man, he was like 30, and he had both boy and man in him.

00:23:33.000 And he was sort of big and strong, but kind of boyish in the face.

00:23:38.000 And as soon as I looked at him and heard that, I nearly started crying immediately.

00:23:43.000 Immediately.

00:23:43.000 And obviously it's a pretty tragic thing that was being described, but it wasn't that.

00:23:46.000 It wasn't the data.

00:23:47.000 It was this feeling that I got from this young man.

00:23:52.000 I was at the stage, and I'd already been up on the stage.

00:23:54.000 I'm talking at an event, and I've been funny for five minutes, and I've been sort of wacky appropriately, and I've established rapport and intimacy well in the room, just so you know.

00:24:03.000 And then I recognised that this is about talk to people, talk to people, and hear this stuff.

00:24:08.000 And you know if you're in church, or for you, or at an event, I suppose also for you, Nathan, If you are touched, it can be kind of beautiful to show that, like to reveal that you are touched because what is that feeling?

00:24:23.000 That's some Holy Spirit gear right there, like something passed between us, something passed between us.

00:24:28.000 But there's a point where if you tip over the threshold, like it might become, well, frankly, unprofessional.

00:24:35.000 And I nearly moved from, oh my God, that's so beautiful, to my own sorrow being unlocked.

00:24:40.000 And when I was right on that edge of that, right, I'd sat back down again in my chair.

00:24:45.000 And this geezer, Amos, he was standing and I was sitting and he put his arms round me.

00:24:54.000 While I was still sitting.

00:24:56.000 And you know how that can be awkward?

00:24:57.000 Like if someone's giving you a ride and you might give them a hug to thank them for the ride and you're both sitting down, it's almost like you might as well have a French kiss.

00:25:06.000 Like the body language can be so terrible.

00:25:08.000 And a hug between people that are sitting and standing can be difficult.

00:25:11.000 But instead of letting it be awkward, he just sort of pulled me up.

00:25:15.000 He pulled me up and held me up like that.

00:25:18.000 And it wasn't sort of...

00:25:21.000 Disrespectful, like you might pull up a puppet or a sack of potatoes.

00:25:25.000 He raised me up.

00:25:27.000 Come on, we're standing up.

00:25:29.000 And it was beautiful.

00:25:31.000 It was beautiful.

00:25:31.000 Then he told his story, which I won't repeat here, but we filmed it, so you will see at some point.

00:25:38.000 By the end of his incredibly moving and gracious story, which was sort of laden with constellation and coordinates that...

00:25:45.000 Touched him and provide the channel for him to be in that room.

00:25:49.000 At the end, just as he said at the end of his story, like when he finally went through, he'd been through his hero's journey and despair.

00:25:55.000 He'd met the mentor and was being given the information.

00:25:59.000 He was given by the mentor this information.

00:26:02.000 Look up what your name means.

00:26:05.000 Because the Lord knew when he told your parents to call you Amos, like what you would be and who you would be.

00:26:11.000 And the guy says, and I looked in the book.

00:26:14.000 And it's Amos says, and his voice breaks, and he goes, able to carry.

00:26:20.000 And as he said that, he began to sort of weep, and I did back what he had done at the beginning.

00:26:28.000 And when we look around, there's a standing ovation.

00:26:30.000 It's only less than 100 people in the room.

00:26:32.000 This is not some big fancy event.

00:26:33.000 And I felt, oh, God is here.

00:26:37.000 God is here.

Stay Free - Russel Brand - January 22, 2025

BREAK BREAD EP. 11 - NATHAN FINOCHIO

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