00:02:16.000And I don't want to make that spurious claim if it can't be demonstrated, but I feel that both these young men were on numerous sites that indicated they may have some connection with the sex industry.
00:02:24.000Now, there's not necessarily a connection, and I'm certainly not alleging that there is one, but people have speculated online that there is a connection between these young men, some of the sites they appear on, and the fact that they burned incorrectly and inaccurately, actually, some of Keir Starmer's property and some other people's property.
00:02:43.000But the allegation is, and now the conviction, that they were attempting to burn Keir Starmer's property.
00:02:48.000So let's get Into this story and pay attention to this as well.0.75
00:02:53.000The unofficial rape gang inquiry, headed up by Rupert Lowe, the political candidate and head of the Restore Britain party, has revealed that 250,000 mostly women and girls have been abused or raped, primarily by Pakistani or Muslim rape gangs in the UK.
00:03:12.000This has got a lot of attention online, but barely any attention in mainstream media.
00:03:17.000It seems that there are resources available to Generate, create, suggest, imply, infer, insinuate that certain activity is taking place, but no resources when it comes to other matters.
00:03:29.000So, what's going on in the UK with these rape gangs?
00:03:32.000What's going on with this peculiar Keir Starmer, rent boy, KGB scenario?
00:03:39.000And why is it that certain stories are reported, certain cases are pursued, and others ignored?
00:03:51.000Of conspiring to carry out arson attacks that were targeting the property and a car that was connected to the UK's Prime Minister, Secure Starmer.
00:03:59.000The three men who were on trial were three Ukrainian men.
00:04:02.000And just in the last few minutes, two of them have been convicted of conspiracy to commit arson.
00:04:07.000Uh, one of them commit, convicted or further arson offensive because he was the person that actually, uh, set light to the properties.
00:04:34.000There was no information in the troll about who this mystery Russian speaker was, and the jury were told it wasn't part of their considerations.
00:04:43.000It's interesting how the jury were directed.
00:04:47.000I suppose anything that happens to a political leader might have a political dimension or it could have a personal dimension.
00:04:57.000Why did they set fire to Keir Starmer's car?0.80
00:05:00.000Who is this mysterious Russian speaker on the phone?0.92
00:05:05.000And remember, that while this is happening, there's a rape gang inquiry because hundreds of thousands, literally, it seems like, it's one of those stories that's so big, the rape gang in the UK story, that you almost can't hold it in your head.
00:05:17.000You can't really even take on board all that it connotes.
00:05:20.000But it seems that there is a sort of kind of institutional cover up going on around sex crimes in the UK that requires a great deal of distraction.
00:05:31.000And I'm not suggesting that these things are all connected in a direct way, but what Does appear to be the case is that certain matters are being pursued, certain information is being concealed, some information is being amplified.
00:05:45.000Who determines how these levers are dialed up or dialed down?
00:05:49.000Who decides where our attention falls?
00:05:52.000And can we pretend or imagine, even for a moment longer, that it's directed by real principles like truth or justice rather than expedience for the powerful?
00:06:04.000But let me know what you think in the comments and chat.
00:06:06.000But later today, the BBC will be broadcasting an investigation into the background to this case.
00:06:12.000So that will be across the BBC later today.
00:06:15.000Here are some of the comments it generated on X, though.0.97
00:06:17.000This arsehole is so desperate to blame Russia for everything, Keir Starmer being the arsehole, I suppose, that to get us into this war with Ukraine.0.98
00:06:25.000Another reason this arsehole, gosh, is trying to silence us on the web is because he knows we can see the truth and he doesn't like it.0.99
00:06:31.000Putin, leader of a whole army of spies and KGB agents, and he sends three red boys to do it.0.99
00:07:08.000Often, these types of stories fascinate us because they allude to or reveal something significant that we can't quite articulate.
00:07:17.000In this instance, it's as is often the case hypocrisy and corruption.
00:07:20.000Remember that right now, bills are being introduced ostensibly to protect children that grant the convenient ability to monitor all use of the internet.
00:07:29.000When they were just trying to push a bill to get monitoring of digital ID, it was a bill they had to abandon because it was so unpopular.
00:07:39.000It's ignoring issues that the British people are really interested in.
00:07:43.000It's ignoring issues that British people are really interested in and ignoring matters that are extremely significant.
00:07:49.000This story here, though, what I think it focuses on, what this story, this story here, though, it seems to indicate something ain't quite right with Keir Starmer.
00:07:59.000Obviously, it was a bad attack, and all the details have now come out in court, and justice has been done.
00:08:09.000So I'm pleased in that respect, particularly for my family who were affected by it.
00:08:18.000I think it has to be seen in its broader context.
00:08:27.000Here we are at the G7, we've just had the Ukraine.
00:08:42.000So the story we're being told is that this is a sort of a Russian operation, but Russia is a pretty significant world power and it does seem a little tin pot for a What is it, an attempted assassination, just troubling someone?
00:08:57.000Why are Russia involved in like sort of street crime and skullduggery?
00:09:02.000I've been covering the Starmer arson trial for over 21 days.
00:09:05.000I'm really, really pissed off because Panorama has come out with this half an hour program as a BBC massive headline.
00:09:09.000The main headline is that Russia is behind the arson attacks.
00:09:12.000And if you actually look at their evidence, it's pretty threadbare.
00:09:14.000One of the bases of this trial is that Roman Levinovich, the main arsonist, was skint and intellectually incapable.
00:10:00.000The allegation of them being all this information about being rent boys, well, if three people have grinder accounts that are removed while they're in prison, what does that, what's all that about?
00:10:07.000Secondly, one of the three who was convicted today, Stanislav Karpiuk, he, in the court, his own barrister said to him, I'm going to show you an embarrassing picture now.
00:10:14.000I thought it was going to be some really horrible sort of rent boy thing.
00:10:16.000It was actually a picture of him modelling, right?
00:10:18.000So his barrister said, Tell us what's going on there.
00:10:24.000No one else examined what he's doing with his modelling.
00:10:26.000The judge didn't mention it as one of his jobs when he summed up.
00:10:28.000He said he was doing hotel work and in construction.
00:10:30.000So why was the modelling mentioned in court other than to make us think, oh We know about the sort of rent boy modelling thing, but, you know, thank you for mentioning it in court, but obviously it's not relevant.
00:10:37.000Well, actually, it is relevant because it was said in court.
00:10:43.000And I suppose it shows you that the judicial system appears to be malleable.
00:10:50.000In the UK at the moment, with that rape gang inquiry, with everything else that's going on in that country, with the control of information, the surveillance, people getting arrested for Facebook posts, this is just one more thing that makes you recognise something.
00:11:04.000Extraordinary is going on, something peculiar and insidious.
00:11:06.000I wouldn't be surprised if this was one of those subjects where, in five years or ten years, a different truth emerges.
00:11:15.000Our investigation found the arson attack, which is one part of an extensive campaign of sabotage, provocation, and lies, leading all the way to the Russian state.0.65
00:11:22.000The handler EL, who directed Laronovich, offered Russian citizenship in return for other attacks and glorified President Vladimir Putin.
00:11:39.000Which is a flagship BBC TV show, made an entire documentary alleging precisely that this was part of a staged campaign by the Russian deep state machine.
00:11:57.000Arson attacks targeting the Prime Minister, Keir Starmer.
00:12:51.000Is it more likely that the superficial and readily available information about these guys' private lives might be playing a part in what went on here?
00:13:04.000Extraordinary how this machine operates and interlocks and works in cohesion.
00:13:08.000You have the judiciary, you have law enforcement, you have the establishment in the form of Keir Starmer, and you have the media all working together.
00:13:17.000Whilst this might be somewhat salacious and somewhat trivial, certainly compared to the ghouling information of 250,000 people abused, women and girls, in that rape inquiry that's taken place.
00:13:28.000Yes, in comparison to that, it's trivial and irrelevant.
00:13:31.000But as an example of how various institutions can create an image of reality, invite us to live in it, and pretend that there's no alternative perspective, it's a perfect, perfect example.
00:13:44.000I predict that now he's resigned and is no longer relevant to the establishment.
00:13:48.000There will be revelations that will make a clearer narrative much more discernible.
00:15:01.000Here's a quick package Ryan Miller is a Christian content creator, podcaster, and author, founder of the Jesus People Ministry, and host of the Jesus People Podcast, where he speaks with pastors, missionaries, authors, and believers about faith and spiritual life.
00:15:14.000His new book, Meek as a Mustang, explores the idea of meekness as strength surrendered to God, drawing on his experiences working with wild Mustangs and young men in rehabilitation settings.
00:15:30.000I was saying this to Nikki at dinner last night, and I was telling you a little bit about it, but I was telling her, I'm like, how do you enjoy working with Russell?
00:15:39.000I'm like, because I think there's a significant ministry assignment there.
00:15:43.000I wrote you in your card this as well, but one thing I'd say is the last eight years, the Lord has brought me through this shedding of my identity.
00:15:57.000And the word he kept giving me was meekness.
00:15:59.000I'd be on my face, panic attacks, asking the Lord, like, Lord, what are you doing right now?
00:16:03.000Like, why has everything that I thought was going to be successful in my life crumbled?
00:16:14.000And I'd be on my face on this pink yoga mat, having panic attacks for the first time in my life, not knowing who I was anymore.
00:16:21.000Didn't become the Major League Baseball player.
00:16:40.000And the word he kept giving me was meekness.
00:16:43.000Now, I'm a 27 year old kid at this point.
00:16:45.000I had started writing a book called Taming Mustangs, which was a pretty bad book because a 27 year old kid wrote it.
00:16:51.000But I had a chapter in there called The Meekness Paradox how meekness isn't weakness, it's strength under control, which is not a bad definition.
00:16:59.000But I'm on my face and I'm asking the Lord, Lord, what are you doing right now?
00:17:25.000The word is praus, which means to tame a wild mustang.
00:17:30.000The project I had just finished was a project where we took four boys out of gangs, prison, foster care, paired them with wild Mustangs to tame and train over 40 days.
00:17:39.000There's no one on the planet, maybe, that understands the picture that has a biblical studies degree and just tamed wild Mustangs for the last two months.
00:17:49.000And so the Lord dropped this virtue in my lap.
00:17:55.000And I knew what the assignment was the assignment was I'm doing meekness in you first.
00:18:00.000And I didn't know how painful that was going to be.
00:18:02.000I didn't know what the wilderness looked like at that point.
00:18:04.000But he then took me through failure after failure, humiliation.
00:18:12.000It was the most painful and the most joy filled season of my life.
00:18:15.000I look back on it, and now, you know, millions of followers later, and people stopping me in the store and all this stuff, my character would have freaking crumbled if I didn't have the Lord take me through the wilderness and prune me.
00:18:27.000That's what I think is happening with you.
00:18:28.000I was telling you yesterday, I'll get into meekness a little bit more, but.
00:18:32.000My spirit, because I went on this journey where I started, I hit up all my buddies.
00:19:10.000There's a lot of those stories in there.
00:19:11.000And I can tell you some of those stories now because there's some crazy stories.
00:19:15.000So, I start meeting with missionaries in Africa who are seeing these warriors who are adopting children and turning them into soldiers saved for Christ and then go back to their village and share with the whole village.
00:19:44.000That know him so deeply and walk with him so deeply.
00:19:48.000It is the pursuit of my lifetime to become surrendered to my master, to become meek.
00:19:54.000And so, to do that, part of what I need to do is I need to surround myself with those people.
00:19:59.000When I was sitting with you yesterday, I felt the same presence.
00:20:04.000And I'm not taught, like, I've got a podcast now, the Jesus People podcast.
00:20:07.000I interview Jesus people all around the world.
00:20:09.000I'm talking like maybe three I felt it with.
00:20:12.000I felt it so strongly with you yesterday.
00:20:16.000And I feel like the Lord gave me a glimpse into that because you have so much attack right now.
00:20:21.000You have so many people coming and calling you a grifter and slinging mud, just like they did to Paul, just like they did to Jesus, just like they did to David, who was singing and dancing.
00:20:30.000And they're like, Isn't that the king?
00:20:31.000And he's like, I'll be even more embarrassed than this.
00:21:02.000That's a brilliant and amazing compliment.
00:21:04.000And it's good that we're starting around meekness because it's a really misunderstood term and I don't like it.
00:21:11.000And I've always, I think that meekness might be, if I was to hang my reluctance to follow Christ on a single term or Single molecule of Christian language.
00:21:25.000I love Monty Python and I love that film Life of Brian.
00:21:29.000And in that opening scene where some of the characters are in attendance at the sermon on the mount, and they go, Oh, what did he just say?
00:21:37.000Oh, it's good they're getting something because they have a hell of a time.
00:21:41.000But I recently as well learned because someone sent me some etymological analysis, and that when he used the word meek in the Beatitude, he was referencing a psalm.
00:21:51.000I can't remember which psalm, but in that psalm.
00:21:54.000So, they now know the Septuagint Greek word and they know the Hebrew word.
00:21:59.000And as you've correctly indicated in your book, Meek as Mustangs, find the strength to surrender your wild heart to Jesus.
00:22:32.000Also, though, I was sort of disgusted by it and appalled by it and dissatisfied by it.
00:22:37.000Like we were discussing on your podcast yesterday, when you're trying to get famous, you're trying to work things out using the tools of the world, you're trying to resolve a spiritual problem using earthly tools.
00:22:49.000And the idea, like meek, there ain't a perfect English word for it unless we retrain ourselves using the actual word meek.
00:22:57.000But as I understand it, it's like it fits very nicely with ideas like yoking yourself to him, like walking, abiding in him, fitting yourself to him.
00:23:07.000And that kind of submission, it's so extraordinary that the technique the culture uses is don't let anybody put you down, girl.
00:23:17.000Like they get you to worship things that are just superficial or irrelevant, i.e., there is no man and woman in heaven, and your skin is literally very shallow.
00:23:25.000Not to suggest that different cultural groups haven't had different historical experiences directly because of the color of their skin.0.99
00:23:30.000That's, of course, obviously demonstrably true.
00:23:32.000But from a spiritual perspective, it's absolutely and literally irrelevant.
00:23:36.000And my journey that what's happening to me when you said something a minute ago, What's happening is, like, there are so many things, so many, as you say, attacks and provocations, and there's so overwhelming actually, and sometimes such a neat partner to my shame that I could almost just go along with it.
00:23:56.000I could almost go, actually, you're right.
00:24:11.000Of course, there are such things as, you know, when it comes to a criminal and legal situation, there are certain Terms that we kind of understand.
00:24:17.000We understand what violence and violation and coercion are.
00:24:20.000These are things that have got clear descriptors.
00:24:23.000But bringing oneself, making oneself, I noticed after I had started to understand this idea of identity, as Jamie Winship explains so well, or no independent self, as Norman Grubb describes so well, where he says, you know, we are going to the church with this proposition there is no independent self.
00:24:42.000Human beings are expressors of a deity nature, either the spirit of error of the fallen one or the Nature of the I am Yahweh in Exodus 3 14 or the 45 5 Isaiah, I am God.
00:24:57.000So I reckon, mate, that what's happening to me is such a sort of a crushing of who I thought I was and what I thought it was about and what it was for.
00:25:08.000And even though there feels like there's an invitation to go into this space and start fighting, I'm really not at that point yet.
00:25:14.000I'm collapsing, collapsing, collapsing into whatever it is he wants.
00:25:46.000The difference between being collapsed into my fallen identity and presumably yours, Ryan, and you've described having.
00:25:52.000Felt a good deal of pain and weakness and despair.
00:25:55.000And I didn't know about you that you were going to be, wanted to be at least a major league baseball player or a Hollywood star, both Jake's dream and my dream, in a single combined set of ambitions there.
00:26:08.000But what you're becoming is actually quite unique.
00:26:10.000And not so long ago, there weren't even the possibilities, as we talked about before, it's driven by technology.
00:26:17.000The technology now permits this rather unique position you found yourself in.
00:26:23.000Being a content creator for the Lord, for the Lord to spread his message, to find ways to reach young people using more traditional means of communication, like the written word, as in meek as a Mustang, but also through content creation.
00:26:37.000Now, to me, you look like I'd say a Charlie Kirk Superman.
00:27:52.000And that the next day, I went to a wedding, my cousin's wedding, and I crushed 25 beers because I was medicating with a different substance, what I'd been medicating with glory my whole life.
00:29:41.000You get this horse that's never been touched.
00:29:43.000And by the way, the federal government's rounding up tens of thousands of wild Mustangs every single year and putting them behind bars and holding facilities.
00:29:50.000They put a big brand on the side of their necks because they're federally protected.
00:30:17.000But if you can tame a wild Mustang, it becomes the most prized horse you can have.
00:30:21.000Because that time when you get it into this round pen and this thing's kicking, bucking, snorting, kicking up dust, running away from you, because we're predators.
00:30:29.000So you get in that wild or in that round pen with that wild Mustang, we have eyes on the front of our heads.
00:31:22.000It turns and gets curious enough to when you start leaving, you release the pressure and you walk away, it starts to follow you.
00:31:27.000And the biblical principle there is Romans chapter 2, verse 4.
00:31:30.000It is the kindness of the Lord that leads us to repentance.
00:31:33.000Because when that horse sees that you're for it, not against it, It stops running from you and it begins to follow you.
00:31:40.000And then you do this day after day after day, and you get just close enough to it, and then you release the pressure.
00:31:46.000You're still pursuing this horse, but you're doing it in a way like Jesus does with his disciples, who James and John were so crazy they wanted to genocide the Samaritans.
00:32:24.000He took a group of ragtag teenage fishermen, foul mouthed teenage fishermen, I imagine, a terrorist and a tax collector, and said, let's go change the world.
00:32:33.000They were teenagers, with the exception of Peter.
00:32:36.000And that created a movement because he's proving the point that.
00:32:41.000Jesus would rather tame a Mustang than inspire a mule.0.77
00:32:44.000He didn't want the stubborn Pharisees.
00:32:46.000He wanted the wild ones whose heart would turn around and follow him.0.97
00:32:50.000And then when you get close enough, when your master gets close enough and puts a hand on you, when you experience a touch from the Holy Spirit for the first time, like you have, these wild Mustangs had never been touched.0.51
00:34:02.000They might be worshiping a demon, but they're more meek than you are because they have fully lost the ownership of their lives.
00:34:07.000They haven't just surrendered, they have lost the entire ownership of everything that they have because they're anticipating the virgins that they'll get from their God in heaven.0.82
00:34:19.000And yet, as Christians, we see more mice than Mustangs in the church right now.
00:34:25.000We need more wild men who, like James and John, will say the wrong thing, like Peter will pull the sword and will become meek slowly because Peter learned meekness.
00:34:36.000Because meekness means having the sword and not pulling it.
00:34:39.000It's the mighty river that stays between the banks.
00:34:41.000It's the wild Mustang that everyone discards, that everyone says is a throwaway horse that becomes the warhorse for the king.
00:34:49.000That becomes so attuned to his master that he puts the bit in his mouth and gives the bridle to the master and says, When the horn blows, I'll do whatever you tell me to do.
00:34:58.000And I will run 35 miles an hour into battle, unfazed by the flaming arrows, because I'm so in love with you, because I'm so attuned to what you're saying.
00:35:06.000You use a lot of words that I struggle to understand sometimes because your vocabulary is so crazy.
00:35:11.000You use simulation, consciousness, all these things.
00:35:14.000But I think what Jesus is trying to get us to is that John 17 union.
00:35:19.000We become one as me and you, Father, are one.0.97
00:35:23.000And I think meekness is the call of every Christian.0.97
00:35:26.000It's the only time Jesus says, This is my heart.1.00
00:35:46.000How can I be so unfazed by the flaming arrows and the lawsuits and the derision and all the podcast guests that come on and slander me and all these people that are saying things and the interviews that I do?
00:35:56.000How can I be so in tune with you that those flaming arrows don't phase me at all?
00:36:02.000I'm just doing what you tell me to do, Lord.
00:36:04.000And when you found that, when you found the treasure in the field, you sell everything.
00:36:10.000And so I think what I was feeling with you yesterday is a man who is having all of it stripped and who is selling in the process of selling everything for the treasure in the field.
00:36:21.000And I don't think there's many men on the planet like you right now, which is why I'm so fascinated by you.
00:36:25.000And I'm so excited to become friends more with you because you've got a special calling, bro.
00:36:31.000This light momentary affliction is not worth comparing to the glory that's in store for you, not just in heaven.
00:36:38.000With the labor that he has for you on this earth.
00:36:40.000That's really kind of you to explain that with such diligent correspondence with scripture to me.
00:37:08.000Like that ain't as sexy as a Mustang and the kind of retention of the wildness.
00:37:14.000Our Lord, like, as again from the Narnia Chronicles, like Aslan is wild, he is not tame.
00:37:21.000And I think there's an aspect of this word meekness that is that your wildness has not been civilized by mankind, it hasn't fallen into the parameters and conditioning of civilization, which, by my reckoning, is the very definition of the fallen empire, Satan's counterfeit kingdom.
00:37:43.000And now we have the technology to make it absolute.
00:37:47.000I mean, absolute in the sense that it could be global and the point where every moment of conscious attention could be directed and controlled and manipulated.
00:37:58.000It's clear that the various utensils, the tiles to make that mosaic, to make that collage that would entirely cover the sphere, the intimate sphere that one might share with Christ, we're close to realizing that, at least the.
00:38:45.000Therefore, all things are the living water, whether they are fallen and separate, as in again in Jeremiah when it says separate systems, like when it's like when I want to hold that, it's very clear that not only is Eve's disobedience in my desire to know, I think I'll be in charge, I'll be like a little God, I'll make my own decisions, I'll become a separate self.
00:39:05.000Yes, there's Eve's disobedience, but also there is Lucifer's desire for separate sovereignty.
00:39:13.000This meekness, as you describe it so beautifully, Ryan.
00:39:17.000Sounds like the kind of harmony that can be achieved when nature recognizes its righteous posture as an expressor of the divine.
00:39:26.000When one considers the sun, there is its burning, unknowable core made of untenable, unknowable, and unending nuclear explosions that we could not hold.
00:39:41.000We cannot know the Father, but we may know his light, we may know his rays.
00:39:47.000We may know the illumination and the luminosity by which we see all other things.
00:39:53.000I think you were saying yesterday without the sun, you don't have life.
00:40:08.000So, in these sort of solar faiths, in these cosmological worship, pagan faiths, there is truth.
00:40:17.000But what we lack without Christ is the present truth.
00:40:22.000And we are unable, therefore, to give him his due authority.
00:40:28.000I think it's important to recognize that, as they say, or as Herman Melville said in Moby Dick, Noah's flood is still upon the earth.
00:40:37.000We think of like Noah's flood as some historic event, but the waters that form the oceans and seas, that's what, that's the remnants of that flood.
00:40:46.000When you think of the exploit, the way they can address that 13.8 billion years ago, there was some kind of event where, you know, the Big Bang, as they call it, is because the Radiation continues at a measurable rate that if you were to reverse it, you would be able to make it a molecule, a sort of a small sub molecular particle that contained all of reality.
00:41:07.000So I say this in so much as Christ's mission continues yet.
00:41:13.000He, the apostle that never knew the living Christ, but only on the Damascene Epiphany encountered him in unknowable light, invisible to his accompaniments, he that became immediately obedient, if plainly a somewhat truculent.
00:41:35.000One of the shifts that happened for me, and it always interests me with like, you know, because now I hang with people that are lifelong Christians, that are church Christians, and I can see that, me, my personal opinion is that it's very difficult not to, you know, fall into righteous gemstones.
00:41:51.000It's very difficult not to turn, like you said, Christian famous.
00:41:56.000It looks to me like that even at quite low levels, institutions can be challenging for, The problem of the church, it seems, of churches is if they are nested within the culture that surrounds them, then that will inevitably corrupt them.
00:42:11.000And probably that's the drive of Paul's letters.
00:42:15.000Anyway, my point, mate, is that we are required to deliver the apologetics to this generation.
00:42:24.000We're required to understand their vocabulary.
00:42:26.000We're required to understand their suffering.
00:42:29.000Some of that suffering will be universal.0.88
00:42:31.000And when I stepped down from My ludicrous, ridiculous, untenable dream to actually be Jesus and accepted we don't need anyone else to be Jesus because Jesus is real.
00:42:42.000You don't need to imitate him unless it's through following him and emulating and modeling after and following and pursuing and becoming smaller so that he's greater.
00:42:53.000But he will always be, you're always his accomplice.
00:42:56.000He's the groom, and we're the best man, fingers crossed.
00:43:00.000You know, what I. Collectively, indeed.
00:43:33.000But like, I recognize that, you know, that there's Paul, Sylvan, like, you know, they're all hanging at various points with various errors and problems.
00:44:25.000If you're raising money for the Democrat Party or the Republican Party or whatever, it doesn't matter.
00:44:29.000No one cares because as long as that's a controlled explosion, in there, you're not doing anything relevant.
00:44:36.000The people that have the institutions and elites and maybe even satanic entities and dark spiritual powers that have real control do not care about which group you have running their institutions.
00:45:47.000So, it, yeah, so the whole thing's weird.
00:45:50.000Um, and he'll explain to you that there's different types of Satanism, there's theistic Satanism, or I don't even know how to describe it, where they worship Satan, and there's Satanism, where they just worship themselves and they call themselves Satanists.
00:46:03.000Either way, there's gnarly stuff that happens.
00:47:13.000He said, Instantly, I was flooded with love.
00:47:15.000He's like, And the only reason I knew it was love, because I went to a radio station two weeks earlier and I was talking about my Satanism thing.
00:47:23.000And there was this woman who I knew was a Christian that worked at the radio station.
00:47:26.000She came up to me and looked me in the eyes and then hugged me.
00:47:29.000And she's like, And he goes, The same feeling that I had from her is what I experienced a million X from Yeshua in this room.
00:47:52.000And he said, he goes to the beach and he realizes that he's been on the wrong side.
00:47:58.000And he said, the Holy Spirit floods him.
00:48:00.000He has to go through this whole demonic deliverance over the next two months.
00:48:03.000He leaves the Church of Satan, which was a whole other ball of wax.
00:48:06.000It's not very easy to leave the Church of Satan.
00:48:08.000It's like, Leaving gangster disciples or MS 13, like they're not going to let you go easily, but eventually they let him go because he was kind of like a public, more high profile person and he has to carry a gun on him all the time.
00:48:18.000There's attacks, all this crazy stuff.
00:50:19.000I need to ask him, like, what does that even mean that the snakes are on the same frequency as us?
00:50:22.000So he starts telling me, like, all this stuff that's happening because he's got members, he's got friends that are still in Satanism that are texting him these pictures and they're trying to get out.
00:50:31.000Like, it's really hard to get out of Satanism.
00:50:33.000And so, because they do dissociative identity disorder from the time you're six years old.
00:50:37.000I mean, it's really gnarly stuff that's happening in the satanic church.
00:50:41.000Like, again, I've had to get an education on this stuff now because this was the world I started going into.
00:50:46.000Like, here I am trying to start the nice little Jesus People podcast.
00:50:49.000I've once satanized on, and now the Lord starts sending me all these other satanists and all these other witches and stuff.
00:50:53.000And so I'm like, oh my gosh, all right, here we go.
00:50:58.000I had to learn how to fight spiritually.
00:50:59.000Because if you would have told me, if I would have been on the other side of this podcast two years ago, I would have been like, this guy's a quack.0.53
00:51:37.000Like the spiritual fog, as I would call it, just the weight.
00:51:41.000It was this heaviness for two months, didn't break until I put out a post on Instagram.
00:51:46.000And I just, I think I just said, Miller home in shambles, please pray.
00:51:50.000And then when I had tens of thousands of, you know, I think of like the lasers from Star Wars all coming together and converging to take out the Death Star, you know, now I got air support.
00:51:59.000Now I got tens of thousands of prayers.
00:52:20.000Because like I know that this is actually, no, you did the whole thing, didn't you?
00:52:24.000You set up your man there, the Satanist.
00:52:26.000Then you did the story of how you had satanic attacks as a result of having him on there and then you being passed around on message boards like a tray of biscuits that are.0.99
00:53:41.000I don't necessarily mean all of the Catholic Church, but I mean like my mate Joe, who I consider to be the main representative of Catholicism, not Pope Leo, not Peter.
00:54:47.000But for myself, early in my walk with our Lord, I like to have the access that comes directly, although I can see why people would like tradition.
00:54:57.000Anyway, though, my point about Jesus calling, sorry for this long interjection, was because the device it uses.
00:55:04.000If you're not familiar, it's Christ talking in the first person, which is a device also used by the famous and fantastic Course in Miracles.
00:55:16.000And some people would say, isn't that a little presumptuous to talk directly in the first person as the Son of God, the living God, Jesus Christ?
00:55:24.000And the answer is yes, it is, isn't it?
00:55:27.000But when I read the introduction to Jesus' Call in, the sincerity of Sarah Young is so sort of heartwarming and incredible that I just have no questions about her.
00:56:05.000We're in a small space trying to fit into this frame.
00:56:08.000And I find that obviously you've got very long legs, and I find that you're Kind of clashing and budging me out with your long knees.
00:56:15.000It's almost like under the table, up here in what's visible, I'm all kind and saintly, but under the table, like a sort of some dark, evil swan, I'm thrashing around with my femur in a territorial war.
00:56:53.000So, my mate Joe, he doesn't like this because he doesn't like the presumption.
00:56:56.000He doesn't, and indeed, isn't that a wonderful example?
00:56:59.000He doesn't like the idea of the intercession of this voice as being first person Christ.
00:57:05.000But I suppose part, you know, the establishment of the Protestant church has got numerous and interesting roots, but part of it is about certainly Lutheranism.
00:57:15.000Hey, we don't need all of these various institutions.
00:57:19.000Now, of course, you know, as avid fans of the righteous gemstones.
00:58:00.000Ecumenism, correct me in the comments, would you?
00:58:02.000Is, well, the Roman Catholic Church, glorious, but there's certainly, it seems to me, problems that emerged when it alloyed to the Roman Empire.
00:58:11.000The Orthodox Church doesn't know enough about it to criticise it.
00:58:14.000Protestantism, it can become little fiefdoms of corruption as beautifully parodied in the actually more loving and affectionate than it first seems.0.94
00:58:25.000Righteous Gemstones, which is an excellent Danny McBride show.
00:58:29.000About a mega church and the corruption that goes on, but also the goodwill and sincerity.
00:58:51.000Pastoral guidance, because I don't think this is all coming just from comedy writers.
00:58:56.000But yeah, we've had, we initially had conflict, didn't we, Russell?
00:58:59.000Because we watched the first episode and it does have this.
00:59:02.000Amazing sea where they're baptizing people in a wave pool and they're like clashing against these waves.
00:59:09.000And it's really, really, we did cry with laughter over and we still are watching it, some of the things, but we've had the conflict of saying, Gosh, is it blasphemous to be watching and laughing at this?
00:59:20.000But actually, it's when I went into it a bit further, it's what does it make you feel?
00:59:26.000And because we can see and point out the things like they are sort of respectful of.
00:59:31.000Like that little thing where they accidentally throw a Jesus, a wobbling Jesus that you'd have on a dashboard.
00:59:38.000And then they spend, they're like, that was Jesus.
00:59:42.000And then Eli Dempsey says, I think, oh, no, it wasn't.
01:00:16.000The intention of God is for us to live in love and love one another and be in him and he in us.
01:00:22.000What is the intention of Danny McBride?
01:00:23.000I don't know Danny McBride, but I think he's a very, very great comedian.
01:00:28.000And at the moment, I would say he is a man of the South out of Georgia that's going to be familiar with those megachurches and stuff.
01:00:36.000And of course, we can just research this and find out for sure.
01:00:38.000But has made his money and name and living in Hollywood.
01:00:41.000And probably there are critiques of both of those institutions available in Righteous Gemstones, i.e., the church will be corrupted.
01:00:50.000Even if you look at the book of Acts, there's weird stuff going on as they try to grapple with the holy power of God.
01:00:57.000Or those that have known him and walked with him try to bring about his kingdom, practice his ways while still living in human fallibility.
01:01:04.000At one point, Jesse Gemstone, one of the oldest brothers or son of the main.