Stay Free - Russel Brand - 🚨 BREAKING: Keir Starmer Officially Resigns! - SF733

00:00:07.000 Ladies and gentlemen, Russell Brand, Russian conspiracy theorist, trying to bring real journalism to the American people.

00:00:17.000 Hello there, you awakening wonders.

00:00:19.000 In my country, the Prime Minister, Keir Starmer, has resigned.

00:00:23.000 A lot of people predicted it was coming.

00:00:25.000 In fact, late last night, Trump put this out.

00:00:28.000 Keir Starmer will resign as Prime Minister of the United Kingdom.

00:00:32.000 He failed badly on two very important subjects immigration and energy.

00:00:37.000 The question my party is asking now.

00:00:40.000 Is whether I am best placed to lead us into the next general election.

00:00:48.000 I have heard the answer of my parliamentary party to that question, and I accept that answer with good grace.

00:01:00.000 Every decision I've taken has been about putting the country I love first.

00:01:06.000 That is why I will resign as leader of the Labour Party.

00:01:10.000 This comes a few days.

00:01:12.000 After the conclusion of an embarrassing story for Starmer, a while back, Starmer had his car attacked by arsonists. 0.98

00:01:19.000 There's a sort of a level of smutty humour in the first syllable of that definition, that word, that term, because, well, arse. 0.98

00:01:28.000 That's why. 0.96

00:01:29.000 Because there's been a lot of rumours and gossip around Keir Starmer.

00:01:31.000 That doesn't necessarily mean anything's true.

00:01:34.000 I'm a person that's been subject to quite a lot of gossip that's been consequential in my own life that happens to be entirely untrue.

00:01:41.000 But what's fascinating is he is the Prime Minister.

00:01:45.000 Or at least he was at the time.

00:01:47.000 These two guys have been convicted of arson.

00:01:51.000 And the mainstream media claim is that these guys were arsonists working for Putin, for the KGB.

00:02:00.000 Now, I don't know much about Russian deep state power, but my sense is that they're a pretty serious bunch of people.

00:02:07.000 I wouldn't want to mess with the KGB.

00:02:09.000 And I reckon if I did mess with the KGB, they probably wouldn't send a couple of. 0.62

00:02:14.000 Rent boys.

00:02:16.000 And I don't want to make that spurious claim if it can't be demonstrated, but I feel that both these young men were on numerous sites that indicated they may have some connection with the sex industry.

00:02:24.000 Now, there's not necessarily a connection, and I'm certainly not alleging that there is one, but people have speculated online that there is a connection between these young men, some of the sites they appear on, and the fact that they burned incorrectly and inaccurately, actually, some of Keir Starmer's property and some other people's property.

00:02:43.000 But the allegation is, and now the conviction, that they were attempting to burn Keir Starmer's property.

00:02:48.000 So let's get Into this story and pay attention to this as well. 0.75

00:02:53.000 The unofficial rape gang inquiry, headed up by Rupert Lowe, the political candidate and head of the Restore Britain party, has revealed that 250,000 mostly women and girls have been abused or raped, primarily by Pakistani or Muslim rape gangs in the UK.

00:03:12.000 This has got a lot of attention online, but barely any attention in mainstream media.

00:03:17.000 It seems that there are resources available to Generate, create, suggest, imply, infer, insinuate that certain activity is taking place, but no resources when it comes to other matters.

00:03:29.000 So, what's going on in the UK with these rape gangs?

00:03:32.000 What's going on with this peculiar Keir Starmer, rent boy, KGB scenario?

00:03:39.000 And why is it that certain stories are reported, certain cases are pursued, and others ignored?

00:03:46.000 What's happening in the UK?

00:03:47.000 Is it rotten to its very core?

00:03:50.000 Two men have been convicted.

00:03:51.000 Of conspiring to carry out arson attacks that were targeting the property and a car that was connected to the UK's Prime Minister, Secure Starmer.

00:03:59.000 The three men who were on trial were three Ukrainian men.

00:04:02.000 And just in the last few minutes, two of them have been convicted of conspiracy to commit arson.

00:04:07.000 Uh, one of them commit, convicted or further arson offensive because he was the person that actually, uh, set light to the properties.

00:04:13.000 Another man was acquitted.

00:04:16.000 What the court heard during the trial is that, uh, the recruitment was online by a Russian speaker who used the alias EL.

00:04:23.000 And he asked the main defendant, Roman Lavrinovich, to carry out the arsons.

00:04:28.000 He gave him the addresses, told him what he wanted targeted.

00:04:31.000 And offered him money in return.

00:04:34.000 There was no information in the troll about who this mystery Russian speaker was, and the jury were told it wasn't part of their considerations.

00:04:43.000 It's interesting how the jury were directed.

00:04:47.000 I suppose anything that happens to a political leader might have a political dimension or it could have a personal dimension.

00:04:55.000 Who are these young men?

00:04:57.000 Why did they set fire to Keir Starmer's car? 0.80

00:05:00.000 Who is this mysterious Russian speaker on the phone? 0.92

00:05:05.000 And remember, that while this is happening, there's a rape gang inquiry because hundreds of thousands, literally, it seems like, it's one of those stories that's so big, the rape gang in the UK story, that you almost can't hold it in your head.

00:05:17.000 You can't really even take on board all that it connotes.

00:05:20.000 But it seems that there is a sort of kind of institutional cover up going on around sex crimes in the UK that requires a great deal of distraction.

00:05:31.000 And I'm not suggesting that these things are all connected in a direct way, but what Does appear to be the case is that certain matters are being pursued, certain information is being concealed, some information is being amplified.

00:05:45.000 Who determines how these levers are dialed up or dialed down?

00:05:49.000 Who decides where our attention falls?

00:05:52.000 And can we pretend or imagine, even for a moment longer, that it's directed by real principles like truth or justice rather than expedience for the powerful?

00:06:01.000 Look here, don't look there.

00:06:03.000 That's what it seems like to me.

00:06:04.000 But let me know what you think in the comments and chat.

00:06:06.000 But later today, the BBC will be broadcasting an investigation into the background to this case.

00:06:12.000 So that will be across the BBC later today.

00:06:15.000 Here are some of the comments it generated on X, though. 0.97

00:06:17.000 This arsehole is so desperate to blame Russia for everything, Keir Starmer being the arsehole, I suppose, that to get us into this war with Ukraine. 0.98

00:06:25.000 Another reason this arsehole, gosh, is trying to silence us on the web is because he knows we can see the truth and he doesn't like it. 0.99

00:06:31.000 Putin, leader of a whole army of spies and KGB agents, and he sends three red boys to do it. 0.99

00:06:35.000 I don't think so, mate. 1.00

00:06:36.000 Who's he trying to kid here?

00:06:38.000 There's a picture there of their little Britain double act. 0.99

00:06:40.000 And the Ukrainian rent boys were Russians. 0.98

00:06:43.000 Yeah, Russia is hiring dodgy rent boys now. 1.00

00:06:45.000 Yeah, for fuck's sake, FFS. 0.99

00:06:48.000 But it wasn't two men, it was the Russian state. 0.99

00:06:50.000 Surely that requires ambassadors to be summoned and sent home.

00:06:52.000 Some indication that it's not acceptable to try and incinerate a PM.

00:06:55.000 If we only see this soon, we'll start to think this is a convenient story.

00:06:59.000 This convenient story may not be entirely accurate.

00:07:04.000 So is there something unusual going on here?

00:07:06.000 And does it really matter?

00:07:08.000 Often, these types of stories fascinate us because they allude to or reveal something significant that we can't quite articulate.

00:07:17.000 In this instance, it's as is often the case hypocrisy and corruption.

00:07:20.000 Remember that right now, bills are being introduced ostensibly to protect children that grant the convenient ability to monitor all use of the internet.

00:07:29.000 When they were just trying to push a bill to get monitoring of digital ID, it was a bill they had to abandon because it was so unpopular.

00:07:38.000 Is extraordinary.

00:07:39.000 It's ignoring issues that the British people are really interested in.

00:07:43.000 It's ignoring issues that British people are really interested in and ignoring matters that are extremely significant.

00:07:49.000 This story here, though, what I think it focuses on, what this story, this story here, though, it seems to indicate something ain't quite right with Keir Starmer.

00:07:59.000 Obviously, it was a bad attack, and all the details have now come out in court, and justice has been done.

00:08:09.000 So I'm pleased in that respect, particularly for my family who were affected by it.

00:08:18.000 I think it has to be seen in its broader context.

00:08:27.000 Here we are at the G7, we've just had the Ukraine.

00:08:42.000 So the story we're being told is that this is a sort of a Russian operation, but Russia is a pretty significant world power and it does seem a little tin pot for a What is it, an attempted assassination, just troubling someone?

00:08:57.000 Why are Russia involved in like sort of street crime and skullduggery?

00:09:02.000 I've been covering the Starmer arson trial for over 21 days.

00:09:05.000 I'm really, really pissed off because Panorama has come out with this half an hour program as a BBC massive headline.

00:09:09.000 The main headline is that Russia is behind the arson attacks.

00:09:12.000 And if you actually look at their evidence, it's pretty threadbare.

00:09:14.000 One of the bases of this trial is that Roman Levinovich, the main arsonist, was skint and intellectually incapable.

00:09:19.000 I mean, had an IQ of 70. 0.99

00:09:20.000 That's what they're trying to say is this guy was desperate and stupid and he'd do anything he was asked. 1.00

00:09:24.000 There's a lot. 1.00

00:09:25.000 That was said in the trial that indicates that isn't the case.

00:09:27.000 Firstly, he sent two cars to Ukraine worth £7,000 shipped to Ukraine.

00:09:31.000 And he did that in the few months before he committed these crimes. 0.86

00:09:33.000 If he was skinned, why would he be sending cars? 0.85

00:09:35.000 There was some problem with his dad's health. 0.67

00:09:36.000 It wasn't like a really fatal illness, it was a minor illness.

00:09:39.000 And he was trying to get some support to his dad.

00:09:40.000 But £7,000 worth of two cars he's already sent a few months before.

00:09:42.000 Secondly, he set up a company that had six bank accounts.

00:09:45.000 Six bank accounts before he was arrested.

00:09:47.000 He'd already set this company up.

00:09:48.000 If he's really sick, how do we have six bank accounts for a company?

00:09:48.000 Why do you have six bank accounts?

00:09:50.000 And also, what was that for?

00:09:52.000 What was that all about?

00:09:53.000 His barrister didn't ask him any questions about why do you have six bank accounts.

00:09:55.000 None of the other barristers asked him that question.

00:09:56.000 No one showed any interest in why someone so thick.

00:09:59.000 Could set up six bank accounts.

00:10:00.000 The allegation of them being all this information about being rent boys, well, if three people have grinder accounts that are removed while they're in prison, what does that, what's all that about?

00:10:07.000 Secondly, one of the three who was convicted today, Stanislav Karpiuk, he, in the court, his own barrister said to him, I'm going to show you an embarrassing picture now.

00:10:14.000 I thought it was going to be some really horrible sort of rent boy thing.

00:10:16.000 It was actually a picture of him modelling, right?

00:10:18.000 So his barrister said, Tell us what's going on there.

00:10:19.000 He said, Oh, I did some modelling.

00:10:21.000 I tried to do modelling, but it didn't work out.

00:10:22.000 End of conversation.

00:10:23.000 Nothing else.

00:10:23.000 End of conversation.

00:10:24.000 No one else examined what he's doing with his modelling.

00:10:26.000 The judge didn't mention it as one of his jobs when he summed up.

00:10:28.000 He said he was doing hotel work and in construction.

00:10:30.000 So why was the modelling mentioned in court other than to make us think, oh We know about the sort of rent boy modelling thing, but, you know, thank you for mentioning it in court, but obviously it's not relevant.

00:10:37.000 Well, actually, it is relevant because it was said in court.

00:10:40.000 How much was he making from that?

00:10:40.000 So, what was the modelling about?

00:10:42.000 Yeah, that's pretty interesting, isn't it?

00:10:43.000 And I suppose it shows you that the judicial system appears to be malleable.

00:10:50.000 In the UK at the moment, with that rape gang inquiry, with everything else that's going on in that country, with the control of information, the surveillance, people getting arrested for Facebook posts, this is just one more thing that makes you recognise something.

00:11:04.000 Extraordinary is going on, something peculiar and insidious.

00:11:06.000 I wouldn't be surprised if this was one of those subjects where, in five years or ten years, a different truth emerges.

00:11:12.000 A different truth, the truth. 0.74

00:11:15.000 Our investigation found the arson attack, which is one part of an extensive campaign of sabotage, provocation, and lies, leading all the way to the Russian state. 0.65

00:11:22.000 The handler EL, who directed Laronovich, offered Russian citizenship in return for other attacks and glorified President Vladimir Putin.

00:11:30.000 It doesn't seem right, does it? 0.65

00:11:31.000 It doesn't seem plausible that part of the Russian war machine will be directed at these rather trivial activities.

00:11:37.000 Nevertheless, Panorama.

00:11:39.000 Which is a flagship BBC TV show, made an entire documentary alleging precisely that this was part of a staged campaign by the Russian deep state machine.

00:11:57.000 Arson attacks targeting the Prime Minister, Keir Starmer.

00:12:01.000 A car and two houses set on fire.

00:12:05.000 It's a very deliberate and definite escalation against the British state.

00:12:10.000 We've been investigating who did it and why.

00:12:13.000 It's like a puzzle which is being put together.

00:12:18.000 There are links to shadowy figures orchestrating racist hate campaigns.

00:12:22.000 Yeah, that's what it'll be. 0.74

00:12:23.000 It's racists.

00:12:24.000 These racists have always hated Keir Starmer because of his Afro Caribbean. 0.93

00:12:31.000 Racist hate campaigns.

00:12:33.000 We.

00:12:33.000 It's amazing, actually.

00:12:35.000 The agenda is so sort of rigid and the attempt to condemn ordinary people so severe and ardent that even when it would seem like.

00:12:45.000 Okay, it's kind of.

00:12:47.000 Is it plausible that it's a Russian deep state attack?

00:12:50.000 Not really, but if you want.

00:12:51.000 Is it more likely that the superficial and readily available information about these guys' private lives might be playing a part in what went on here?

00:13:02.000 Let's not investigate that.

00:13:04.000 Extraordinary how this machine operates and interlocks and works in cohesion.

00:13:08.000 You have the judiciary, you have law enforcement, you have the establishment in the form of Keir Starmer, and you have the media all working together.

00:13:16.000 To control information.

00:13:17.000 Whilst this might be somewhat salacious and somewhat trivial, certainly compared to the ghouling information of 250,000 people abused, women and girls, in that rape inquiry that's taken place.

00:13:28.000 Yes, in comparison to that, it's trivial and irrelevant.

00:13:31.000 But as an example of how various institutions can create an image of reality, invite us to live in it, and pretend that there's no alternative perspective, it's a perfect, perfect example.

00:13:44.000 I predict that now he's resigned and is no longer relevant to the establishment.

00:13:48.000 There will be revelations that will make a clearer narrative much more discernible.

00:13:54.000 But that's just what I think.

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00:14:59.000 Today's guest is Ryan Miller.

00:15:01.000 Here's a quick package Ryan Miller is a Christian content creator, podcaster, and author, founder of the Jesus People Ministry, and host of the Jesus People Podcast, where he speaks with pastors, missionaries, authors, and believers about faith and spiritual life.

00:15:14.000 His new book, Meek as a Mustang, explores the idea of meekness as strength surrendered to God, drawing on his experiences working with wild Mustangs and young men in rehabilitation settings.

00:15:30.000 I was saying this to Nikki at dinner last night, and I was telling you a little bit about it, but I was telling her, I'm like, how do you enjoy working with Russell?

00:15:39.000 I'm like, because I think there's a significant ministry assignment there.

00:15:43.000 I wrote you in your card this as well, but one thing I'd say is the last eight years, the Lord has brought me through this shedding of my identity.

00:15:57.000 And the word he kept giving me was meekness.

00:15:59.000 I'd be on my face, panic attacks, asking the Lord, like, Lord, what are you doing right now?

00:16:03.000 Like, why has everything that I thought was going to be successful in my life crumbled?

00:16:14.000 And I'd be on my face on this pink yoga mat, having panic attacks for the first time in my life, not knowing who I was anymore.

00:16:21.000 Didn't become the Major League Baseball player.

00:16:23.000 Didn't become the Hollywood producer.

00:16:25.000 I didn't become the pastor.

00:16:27.000 All the things.

00:16:28.000 Like shed, the Lord ripped, like in the Chronicles of Narnia, the dragon skin ripped off.

00:16:35.000 And I'm on my face and I'm asking the Lord, What are you doing?

00:16:39.000 What are you doing, Lord?

00:16:40.000 And the word he kept giving me was meekness.

00:16:43.000 Now, I'm a 27 year old kid at this point.

00:16:45.000 I had started writing a book called Taming Mustangs, which was a pretty bad book because a 27 year old kid wrote it.

00:16:51.000 But I had a chapter in there called The Meekness Paradox how meekness isn't weakness, it's strength under control, which is not a bad definition.

00:16:59.000 But I'm on my face and I'm asking the Lord, Lord, what are you doing right now?

00:17:03.000 And he says, meekness.

00:17:05.000 And I thought he was talking about the book because I had that chapter in there.

00:17:08.000 So I'm like, is that where you're telling me the book's about?

00:17:11.000 That's such a boring book.

00:17:12.000 Like, who writes about meekness?

00:17:13.000 You know, I want to write something poignant.

00:17:15.000 I want a bestseller.

00:17:16.000 He kept saying it so much to me that I just looked up every verse on meekness.

00:17:20.000 Like, okay, Lord, now what?

00:17:22.000 And he says, go to the Greek.

00:17:24.000 And I look right there in the Greek.

00:17:25.000 The word is praus, which means to tame a wild mustang.

00:17:30.000 The project I had just finished was a project where we took four boys out of gangs, prison, foster care, paired them with wild Mustangs to tame and train over 40 days.

00:17:39.000 There's no one on the planet, maybe, that understands the picture that has a biblical studies degree and just tamed wild Mustangs for the last two months.

00:17:48.000 That's me.

00:17:49.000 And so the Lord dropped this virtue in my lap.

00:17:55.000 And I knew what the assignment was the assignment was I'm doing meekness in you first.

00:18:00.000 And I didn't know how painful that was going to be.

00:18:02.000 I didn't know what the wilderness looked like at that point.

00:18:04.000 But he then took me through failure after failure, humiliation.

00:18:12.000 It was the most painful and the most joy filled season of my life.

00:18:15.000 I look back on it, and now, you know, millions of followers later, and people stopping me in the store and all this stuff, my character would have freaking crumbled if I didn't have the Lord take me through the wilderness and prune me.

00:18:27.000 That's what I think is happening with you.

00:18:28.000 I was telling you yesterday, I'll get into meekness a little bit more, but.

00:18:32.000 My spirit, because I went on this journey where I started, I hit up all my buddies.

00:18:38.000 I'm talking like high agency guys.

00:18:40.000 I'm talking like everybody.

00:18:42.000 Who's the meekest person you know?

00:18:43.000 I want to meet them.

00:18:44.000 So I'm meeting with like four star generals.

00:18:46.000 I'm meeting with CIA agents who get dropped in the field.

00:18:49.000 You die, we don't know you.

00:18:51.000 And I'm meeting with these women who were imprisoned in Iran for sharing the gospel, passing out Bibles, smuggling Bibles.

00:18:57.000 Who's a good man?

00:18:58.000 Who's organized all that?

00:18:59.000 Oh, man.

00:19:00.000 I just started going after connection after connection after connection.

00:19:03.000 I became obsessed.

00:19:05.000 I wanted to find the hidden heroes of the faith in the world.

00:19:08.000 Is that what this is about?

00:19:10.000 There's a lot of those stories in there.

00:19:11.000 And I can tell you some of those stories now because there's some crazy stories.

00:19:15.000 So, I start meeting with missionaries in Africa who are seeing these warriors who are adopting children and turning them into soldiers saved for Christ and then go back to their village and share with the whole village.

00:19:28.000 I'm hearing all these stories.

00:19:30.000 I say that to tell you, Russell, I have sat with the meekest people on the planet.

00:19:35.000 I have become a connoisseur of the presence of Jesus because I'm addicted to it.

00:19:42.000 I just want to be around people.

00:19:44.000 That know him so deeply and walk with him so deeply.

00:19:48.000 It is the pursuit of my lifetime to become surrendered to my master, to become meek.

00:19:54.000 And so, to do that, part of what I need to do is I need to surround myself with those people.

00:19:59.000 When I was sitting with you yesterday, I felt the same presence.

00:20:04.000 And I'm not taught, like, I've got a podcast now, the Jesus People podcast.

00:20:07.000 I interview Jesus people all around the world.

00:20:09.000 I'm talking like maybe three I felt it with.

00:20:12.000 I felt it so strongly with you yesterday.

00:20:16.000 And I feel like the Lord gave me a glimpse into that because you have so much attack right now.

00:20:21.000 You have so many people coming and calling you a grifter and slinging mud, just like they did to Paul, just like they did to Jesus, just like they did to David, who was singing and dancing.

00:20:30.000 And they're like, Isn't that the king?

00:20:31.000 And he's like, I'll be even more embarrassed than this.

00:20:33.000 You think this is all I got?

00:20:35.000 Like, I will be even more undignified than this.

00:20:38.000 That's the anointing.

00:20:39.000 And I think that's what the Lord is doing in you right now because I felt it.

00:20:43.000 I felt the same thing I felt with Carol Ward.

00:20:45.000 I felt the same thing I felt with Mariam and Marzi.

00:20:48.000 We were imprisoned in Iran.

00:20:49.000 I felt the same thing with these CIA agents that I can't name that were dropped in Afghanistan. 0.98

00:20:54.000 If you die, see you later.

00:20:55.000 We don't know you, you never existed.

00:20:58.000 Those type of dudes have to be so attuned to the voice of the Holy Spirit.

00:21:01.000 I felt that with you.

00:21:02.000 That's a brilliant and amazing compliment.

00:21:04.000 And it's good that we're starting around meekness because it's a really misunderstood term and I don't like it.

00:21:11.000 And I've always, I think that meekness might be, if I was to hang my reluctance to follow Christ on a single term or Single molecule of Christian language.

00:21:23.000 It might be the word meek.

00:21:25.000 I love Monty Python and I love that film Life of Brian.

00:21:29.000 And in that opening scene where some of the characters are in attendance at the sermon on the mount, and they go, Oh, what did he just say?

00:21:36.000 Blessed are the meek.

00:21:37.000 Oh, it's good they're getting something because they have a hell of a time.

00:21:41.000 But I recently as well learned because someone sent me some etymological analysis, and that when he used the word meek in the Beatitude, he was referencing a psalm.

00:21:51.000 I can't remember which psalm, but in that psalm.

00:21:54.000 So, they now know the Septuagint Greek word and they know the Hebrew word.

00:21:59.000 And as you've correctly indicated in your book, Meek as Mustangs, find the strength to surrender your wild heart to Jesus.

00:22:07.000 That's really beautiful.

00:22:08.000 That's a very, very, very smart way to put that.

00:22:11.000 Ryan's done a good job there.

00:22:12.000 Like, my experience is what's happening to me is that I had a big identity in the world.

00:22:20.000 Like, I suppose that's all fame is you've got an identity in the world.

00:22:25.000 And my identity, I didn't know this, but I worshipped it.

00:22:30.000 I spent a lot of time on it.

00:22:32.000 Also, though, I was sort of disgusted by it and appalled by it and dissatisfied by it.

00:22:37.000 Like we were discussing on your podcast yesterday, when you're trying to get famous, you're trying to work things out using the tools of the world, you're trying to resolve a spiritual problem using earthly tools.

00:22:49.000 And the idea, like meek, there ain't a perfect English word for it unless we retrain ourselves using the actual word meek.

00:22:57.000 But as I understand it, it's like it fits very nicely with ideas like yoking yourself to him, like walking, abiding in him, fitting yourself to him.

00:23:07.000 And that kind of submission, it's so extraordinary that the technique the culture uses is don't let anybody put you down, girl.

00:23:14.000 You are a proud black woman.

00:23:17.000 Like they get you to worship things that are just superficial or irrelevant, i.e., there is no man and woman in heaven, and your skin is literally very shallow.

00:23:25.000 Not to suggest that different cultural groups haven't had different historical experiences directly because of the color of their skin. 0.99

00:23:30.000 That's, of course, obviously demonstrably true.

00:23:32.000 But from a spiritual perspective, it's absolutely and literally irrelevant.

00:23:36.000 And my journey that what's happening to me when you said something a minute ago, What's happening is, like, there are so many things, so many, as you say, attacks and provocations, and there's so overwhelming actually, and sometimes such a neat partner to my shame that I could almost just go along with it.

00:23:56.000 I could almost go, actually, you're right.

00:23:58.000 I'm a terrible guy.

00:23:59.000 I'm a terrible guy.

00:24:00.000 Let's just go with what you're saying.

00:24:02.000 Were it not for what has been revealed to me, that it's sort of not really, none of it's relevant.

00:24:10.000 None of it is relevant.

00:24:11.000 Of course, there are such things as, you know, when it comes to a criminal and legal situation, there are certain Terms that we kind of understand.

00:24:17.000 We understand what violence and violation and coercion are.

00:24:20.000 These are things that have got clear descriptors.

00:24:23.000 But bringing oneself, making oneself, I noticed after I had started to understand this idea of identity, as Jamie Winship explains so well, or no independent self, as Norman Grubb describes so well, where he says, you know, we are going to the church with this proposition there is no independent self.

00:24:39.000 There is no self separate from God.

00:24:41.000 There is no distinct human nature.

00:24:42.000 Human beings are expressors of a deity nature, either the spirit of error of the fallen one or the Nature of the I am Yahweh in Exodus 3 14 or the 45 5 Isaiah, I am God.

00:24:57.000 So I reckon, mate, that what's happening to me is such a sort of a crushing of who I thought I was and what I thought it was about and what it was for.

00:25:08.000 And even though there feels like there's an invitation to go into this space and start fighting, I'm really not at that point yet.

00:25:14.000 I'm collapsing, collapsing, collapsing into whatever it is he wants.

00:25:18.000 And do you know?

00:25:19.000 That in the prayer of St. Francis, isn't it beautiful?

00:25:23.000 Lord, make me a channel of thy peace.

00:25:25.000 That's the first thing that you want to be an instrument of a peace that already exists.

00:25:29.000 The peace is going to flow through you.

00:25:30.000 You're not creating it.

00:25:31.000 Then these pairs of opposites the weather is hatred, I may bring love.

00:25:36.000 The weather is wrong, I may bring the spirit of forgiveness.

00:25:39.000 The weather is discord, harmony, error, truth, doubt, faith, despair, hope, shadows, light, sadness, joy.

00:25:46.000 The difference between being collapsed into my fallen identity and presumably yours, Ryan, and you've described having.

00:25:52.000 Felt a good deal of pain and weakness and despair.

00:25:55.000 And I didn't know about you that you were going to be, wanted to be at least a major league baseball player or a Hollywood star, both Jake's dream and my dream, in a single combined set of ambitions there.

00:26:08.000 But what you're becoming is actually quite unique.

00:26:10.000 And not so long ago, there weren't even the possibilities, as we talked about before, it's driven by technology.

00:26:17.000 The technology now permits this rather unique position you found yourself in.

00:26:23.000 Being a content creator for the Lord, for the Lord to spread his message, to find ways to reach young people using more traditional means of communication, like the written word, as in meek as a Mustang, but also through content creation.

00:26:37.000 Now, to me, you look like I'd say a Charlie Kirk Superman.

00:26:40.000 Yeah.

00:26:41.000 That's how I describe you. 0.72

00:26:42.000 Part Charlie Kirk, part Dean Kane, all man, all Christian.

00:26:46.000 I love it. 0.95

00:26:47.000 I love it.

00:26:47.000 That's how I'm describing you.

00:26:48.000 Well, I grew up.

00:26:50.000 So, very successful family.

00:26:52.000 I'm the only person in my generation without a PhD.

00:26:54.000 I'm talking like Mayo Clinic brain surgeon, my brother, top 40 scientists under 40 in the world.

00:26:59.000 So very performative.

00:27:01.000 I grew up as kind of the black sheep Christian.

00:27:03.000 I found the Lord very early.

00:27:05.000 So then, when I go from baseball, baseball didn't work.

00:27:08.000 Hollywood didn't work.

00:27:10.000 Now I'm a puddle on the floor on this pink yoga mat having panic attacks, wondering who I am.

00:27:14.000 I want a bit more detail on the baseball didn't work.

00:27:17.000 We were at college.

00:27:18.000 How far did you get with the baseball?

00:27:19.000 Low level minor league.

00:27:20.000 Yeah.

00:27:21.000 What I, a pitcher, what is your shortstop?

00:27:23.000 I can't tell from bodies.

00:27:24.000 Can you tell from bodies?

00:27:25.000 I've gained a little weight.

00:27:26.000 I was a shortstop.

00:27:27.000 Now.

00:27:28.000 Yeah.

00:27:29.000 What does that mean?

00:27:31.000 You're near the mound.

00:27:34.000 You've got to be near the ball.

00:27:36.000 Mm hmm.

00:27:39.000 Oh, so that means you're catching it when it's flying.

00:27:41.000 Yeah.

00:27:42.000 Is that what shortstop is?

00:27:43.000 Am I doing it right?

00:27:44.000 Yeah.

00:27:45.000 Yep.

00:27:45.000 That was my attempt at that.

00:27:47.000 So, that baseball dream, minor league, but not working.

00:27:50.000 No, I got cut.

00:27:51.000 I got cut.

00:27:52.000 And that the next day, I went to a wedding, my cousin's wedding, and I crushed 25 beers because I was medicating with a different substance, what I'd been medicating with glory my whole life.

00:28:04.000 I'd been chasing glory.

00:28:05.000 I'd been chasing who is Ryan?

00:28:07.000 Well, Ryan's going to be that underdog story who makes it to the big leagues.

00:28:11.000 And now that was done.

00:28:13.000 And I knew it. 0.99

00:28:14.000 I knew the 18 year old Dominicans were better than I was. 1.00

00:28:16.000 I knew I didn't have a shot, right? 1.00

00:28:18.000 And so here I am.

00:28:21.000 I then start doing crazy workouts.

00:28:22.000 I'm like, maybe I'm a fitness guy.

00:28:24.000 And so I start doing fitness.

00:28:25.000 Then I go into the church.

00:28:26.000 Maybe I'm the pastor.

00:28:27.000 Maybe I'm going to be Christian famous.

00:28:29.000 Maybe I'm the filmmaker.

00:28:30.000 So then I create the film.

00:28:31.000 And then the Lord was like, we're going to chop all of that.

00:28:35.000 And you're going to fail for enough time so that your operating system is completely rewired.

00:28:42.000 And so I'm on the floor, pink yoga mat.

00:28:44.000 The Lord says meekness.

00:28:45.000 Why don't you talk about this pink yoga mat?

00:28:48.000 Because this is where I heard the Lord say meekness for the first time.

00:28:51.000 I heard the, I'm clear as day.

00:28:53.000 I heard the Lord say meekness.

00:28:54.000 And I go and I look up every verse.

00:28:57.000 I look up the Greek word, which is praus.

00:28:59.000 I, right there in front of me, praus, to tame a wild Mustang.

00:29:03.000 I almost fall off the couch. 0.56

00:29:04.000 I call my wife down. 0.61

00:29:05.000 She's shook.

00:29:07.000 And I go, this is what the Lord's saying to me.

00:29:09.000 So then I go on this journey to figure out what meekness is.

00:29:11.000 And here's what I learned, Russell.

00:29:13.000 The world will tell you meekness means meek as a mouse.

00:29:16.000 When you understand the Greek word in the Bible, the word is praus.

00:29:19.000 It means to gentle a wild animal, specifically a wild Mustang.

00:29:23.000 The Greeks would go into the mountains, they would find wild horses, and they would meek them, gentle them, tame them into war horses.

00:29:32.000 And the process of taming a wild Mustang is fascinating.

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00:29:41.000 You get this horse that's never been touched.

00:29:43.000 And by the way, the federal government's rounding up tens of thousands of wild Mustangs every single year and putting them behind bars and holding facilities.

00:29:50.000 They put a big brand on the side of their necks because they're federally protected.

00:29:53.000 You can't kill them.

00:29:54.000 You can't eat them. 0.99

00:29:55.000 You can't ship them to Mexico.

00:29:56.000 So what do you do with something that's a little too wild that you can't control?

00:29:59.000 Cage it.

00:30:00.000 They're eating all the grazing land. 1.00

00:30:01.000 So they're a nuisance to farmers.

00:30:03.000 So you got the farmers that are mad at the Mustangs.

00:30:04.000 You got the government that can't control the Mustangs.

00:30:07.000 What do you do with something you can't control?

00:30:08.000 Let's just contain it.

00:30:09.000 Let's put it in a holding facility.

00:30:11.000 So if you wanted to, you could drive a few hours and pick up a wild Mustang for $199.

00:30:16.000 They're worthless.

00:30:17.000 But if you can tame a wild Mustang, it becomes the most prized horse you can have.

00:30:21.000 Because that time when you get it into this round pen and this thing's kicking, bucking, snorting, kicking up dust, running away from you, because we're predators.

00:30:29.000 So you get in that wild or in that round pen with that wild Mustang, we have eyes on the front of our heads.

00:30:35.000 We're predators.

00:30:35.000 They have eyes on the side of their heads scanning for predators.

00:30:37.000 Oh, that's cool.

00:30:38.000 I didn't know that, right?

00:30:39.000 They're prey animals.

00:30:40.000 So it runs from you.

00:30:41.000 So then the question becomes how do you get this prey animal to trust you?

00:30:48.000 This thing that thinks you're going to kill it, how do you get it to fall in love with you?

00:30:51.000 And the first step is called acknowledgement.

00:30:53.000 You pursue this wild mustang around this round pin, and it's going crazy, right?

00:30:57.000 It's doing everything it can to get the heck away from you.

00:30:59.000 But the moment it stops and gets curious and looks at you, it's called releasing the pressure.

00:31:04.000 You relax your shoulders and you walk away.

00:31:06.000 And the thing starts to realize after days of doing this, huh?

00:31:09.000 The way I get this thing that I think is a predator to get the heck away from me is I look at it.

00:31:14.000 So it just gets addicted to looking at you.

00:31:17.000 And eventually, the craziest thing happens.

00:31:19.000 I've seen this happen.

00:31:22.000 It turns and gets curious enough to when you start leaving, you release the pressure and you walk away, it starts to follow you.

00:31:27.000 And the biblical principle there is Romans chapter 2, verse 4.

00:31:30.000 It is the kindness of the Lord that leads us to repentance.

00:31:33.000 Because when that horse sees that you're for it, not against it, It stops running from you and it begins to follow you.

00:31:40.000 And then you do this day after day after day, and you get just close enough to it, and then you release the pressure.

00:31:46.000 You're still pursuing this horse, but you're doing it in a way like Jesus does with his disciples, who James and John were so crazy they wanted to genocide the Samaritans.

00:31:55.000 And what does he do? 0.63

00:31:56.000 He's like, let's pull an Elijah, Jesus. 1.00

00:31:58.000 Let's rain down fire on these stupid Samaritans that rejected you. 1.00

00:32:02.000 And he goes, You sons of thunder. 1.00

00:32:04.000 He gives them a nickname.

00:32:06.000 He calls them the sons of thunder.

00:32:08.000 I'm going to use your unique identity as wild men.

00:32:11.000 And I'm going to redirect it and harness it.

00:32:13.000 That's what you do for these Mustangs.

00:32:14.000 I imagine he rebuked them.

00:32:16.000 They went on their way.

00:32:17.000 He gave them the nickname.

00:32:18.000 And I think so oftentimes these wild spirited people think Jesus is against them.

00:32:23.000 Look at who he chose.

00:32:24.000 He took a group of ragtag teenage fishermen, foul mouthed teenage fishermen, I imagine, a terrorist and a tax collector, and said, let's go change the world.

00:32:32.000 12 of them.

00:32:33.000 They were teenagers, with the exception of Peter.

00:32:36.000 And that created a movement because he's proving the point that.

00:32:41.000 Jesus would rather tame a Mustang than inspire a mule. 0.77

00:32:44.000 He didn't want the stubborn Pharisees.

00:32:46.000 He wanted the wild ones whose heart would turn around and follow him. 0.97

00:32:50.000 And then when you get close enough, when your master gets close enough and puts a hand on you, when you experience a touch from the Holy Spirit for the first time, like you have, these wild Mustangs had never been touched. 0.51

00:33:01.000 They've got hooves, not hands.

00:33:03.000 So they experience someone rubbing their back for the first time.

00:33:06.000 You go, Where's this been my whole life?

00:33:09.000 Where was this in Hollywood?

00:33:11.000 Where was this in all the sex? 0.67

00:33:12.000 Where was this in the drugs?

00:33:14.000 I've never felt this before.

00:33:15.000 And your entire operating system changes. 0.83

00:33:18.000 I'll tell one more story and then I'll shut up.

00:33:20.000 There's one of those men that I met with who, on my pursuit of meek people, he was a CIA agent who had been dropped in Afghanistan.

00:33:29.000 This was in the 90s. 0.99

00:33:32.000 And we were training the Taliban at this time to fight the Russians.

00:33:35.000 He gets dropped.

00:33:36.000 He's supposed to train these Taliban fighters and he's trying to train them.

00:33:39.000 But every time they would hear a helicopter, a Russian helicopter buzz, these Taliban fighters would run outside.

00:33:46.000 And they would start popping off shots at this helicopter as if that was going to do anything. 0.95

00:33:51.000 And so this dude is like, get behind a freaking rock. 0.70

00:33:53.000 What are you guys doing? 1.00

00:33:54.000 You guys are idiots. 1.00

00:33:56.000 And eventually the Lord tapped him on the shoulder and he said, They might be idiots. 1.00

00:34:00.000 They might be misguided. 1.00

00:34:02.000 They might be worshiping a demon, but they're more meek than you are because they have fully lost the ownership of their lives.

00:34:07.000 They haven't just surrendered, they have lost the entire ownership of everything that they have because they're anticipating the virgins that they'll get from their God in heaven. 0.82

00:34:19.000 And yet, as Christians, we see more mice than Mustangs in the church right now.

00:34:22.000 And that's a problem.

00:34:24.000 We need more Russell Brands.

00:34:25.000 We need more wild men who, like James and John, will say the wrong thing, like Peter will pull the sword and will become meek slowly because Peter learned meekness.

00:34:36.000 Because meekness means having the sword and not pulling it.

00:34:38.000 It's the sword in the sheath.

00:34:39.000 It's the mighty river that stays between the banks.

00:34:41.000 It's the wild Mustang that everyone discards, that everyone says is a throwaway horse that becomes the warhorse for the king.

00:34:49.000 That becomes so attuned to his master that he puts the bit in his mouth and gives the bridle to the master and says, When the horn blows, I'll do whatever you tell me to do.

00:34:57.000 I'll say whatever you tell me to say.

00:34:58.000 And I will run 35 miles an hour into battle, unfazed by the flaming arrows, because I'm so in love with you, because I'm so attuned to what you're saying.

00:35:06.000 You use a lot of words that I struggle to understand sometimes because your vocabulary is so crazy.

00:35:11.000 You use simulation, consciousness, all these things.

00:35:14.000 But I think what Jesus is trying to get us to is that John 17 union.

00:35:19.000 We become one as me and you, Father, are one. 0.97

00:35:23.000 And I think meekness is the call of every Christian. 0.97

00:35:26.000 It's the only time Jesus says, This is my heart. 1.00

00:35:28.000 I'm meek.

00:35:29.000 And I'm lonely.

00:35:30.000 It's the only thing that Jesus says we can do to inherit the earth.

00:35:35.000 And yet we've misunderstood it.

00:35:36.000 And at the core of meekness is a completely lost life and attunement to your father and saying, make us one, Lord.

00:35:44.000 How can I be so intimate with you?

00:35:45.000 How can I be so in love with you?

00:35:46.000 How can I be so unfazed by the flaming arrows and the lawsuits and the derision and all the podcast guests that come on and slander me and all these people that are saying things and the interviews that I do?

00:35:56.000 How can I be so in tune with you that those flaming arrows don't phase me at all?

00:36:00.000 I've got the blinders on.

00:36:02.000 I'm just doing what you tell me to do, Lord.

00:36:04.000 And when you found that, when you found the treasure in the field, you sell everything.

00:36:10.000 And so I think what I was feeling with you yesterday is a man who is having all of it stripped and who is selling in the process of selling everything for the treasure in the field.

00:36:21.000 And I don't think there's many men on the planet like you right now, which is why I'm so fascinated by you.

00:36:25.000 And I'm so excited to become friends more with you because you've got a special calling, bro.

00:36:31.000 This light momentary affliction is not worth comparing to the glory that's in store for you, not just in heaven.

00:36:38.000 With the labor that he has for you on this earth.

00:36:40.000 That's really kind of you to explain that with such diligent correspondence with scripture to me.

00:36:51.000 Thank you.

00:36:51.000 I really, really appreciate that and receive it and I understand it.

00:36:57.000 And what it feels like the other day in church, I heard of Ishmael, you'll be a wild donkey of a man.

00:37:06.000 Like that's kind of the.

00:37:08.000 Like that ain't as sexy as a Mustang and the kind of retention of the wildness.

00:37:14.000 Our Lord, like, as again from the Narnia Chronicles, like Aslan is wild, he is not tame.

00:37:21.000 And I think there's an aspect of this word meekness that is that your wildness has not been civilized by mankind, it hasn't fallen into the parameters and conditioning of civilization, which, by my reckoning, is the very definition of the fallen empire, Satan's counterfeit kingdom.

00:37:42.000 Is civilization.

00:37:43.000 And now we have the technology to make it absolute.

00:37:47.000 I mean, absolute in the sense that it could be global and the point where every moment of conscious attention could be directed and controlled and manipulated.

00:37:56.000 We're sort of quite close to that.

00:37:58.000 It's clear that the various utensils, the tiles to make that mosaic, to make that collage that would entirely cover the sphere, the intimate sphere that one might share with Christ, we're close to realizing that, at least the.

00:38:14.000 The agents of the empire are.

00:38:17.000 And what it feels like on the inside is, which you are kindly describing, is the resource, the living water is always the same.

00:38:29.000 You know, he made Lucifer, he made that old ancient serpent.

00:38:36.000 He's peerless, he's the Alpha, the Omega.

00:38:39.000 So it's not like there are sets of peer deities that are competing with God.

00:38:44.000 Yes.

00:38:45.000 Therefore, all things are the living water, whether they are fallen and separate, as in again in Jeremiah when it says separate systems, like when it's like when I want to hold that, it's very clear that not only is Eve's disobedience in my desire to know, I think I'll be in charge, I'll be like a little God, I'll make my own decisions, I'll become a separate self.

00:39:05.000 Yes, there's Eve's disobedience, but also there is Lucifer's desire for separate sovereignty.

00:39:13.000 This meekness, as you describe it so beautifully, Ryan.

00:39:17.000 Sounds like the kind of harmony that can be achieved when nature recognizes its righteous posture as an expressor of the divine.

00:39:26.000 When one considers the sun, there is its burning, unknowable core made of untenable, unknowable, and unending nuclear explosions that we could not hold.

00:39:41.000 We cannot know the Father, but we may know his light, we may know his rays.

00:39:47.000 We may know the illumination and the luminosity by which we see all other things.

00:39:53.000 I think you were saying yesterday without the sun, you don't have life.

00:39:57.000 You don't have photosynthesis.

00:39:58.000 You don't have the creatures called forth from the swamp.

00:40:01.000 You don't have day and night.

00:40:02.000 You don't have separation of the waters into vapors, into flowing waters.

00:40:06.000 We require it.

00:40:08.000 So, in these sort of solar faiths, in these cosmological worship, pagan faiths, there is truth.

00:40:17.000 But what we lack without Christ is the present truth.

00:40:22.000 And we are unable, therefore, to give him his due authority.

00:40:28.000 I think it's important to recognize that, as they say, or as Herman Melville said in Moby Dick, Noah's flood is still upon the earth.

00:40:37.000 We think of like Noah's flood as some historic event, but the waters that form the oceans and seas, that's what, that's the remnants of that flood.

00:40:46.000 When you think of the exploit, the way they can address that 13.8 billion years ago, there was some kind of event where, you know, the Big Bang, as they call it, is because the Radiation continues at a measurable rate that if you were to reverse it, you would be able to make it a molecule, a sort of a small sub molecular particle that contained all of reality.

00:41:07.000 So I say this in so much as Christ's mission continues yet.

00:41:13.000 He, the apostle that never knew the living Christ, but only on the Damascene Epiphany encountered him in unknowable light, invisible to his accompaniments, he that became immediately obedient, if plainly a somewhat truculent.

00:41:30.000 And tenacious individual.

00:41:33.000 We are him.

00:41:35.000 One of the shifts that happened for me, and it always interests me with like, you know, because now I hang with people that are lifelong Christians, that are church Christians, and I can see that, me, my personal opinion is that it's very difficult not to, you know, fall into righteous gemstones.

00:41:51.000 It's very difficult not to turn, like you said, Christian famous.

00:41:55.000 It's very difficult.

00:41:56.000 It looks to me like that even at quite low levels, institutions can be challenging for, The problem of the church, it seems, of churches is if they are nested within the culture that surrounds them, then that will inevitably corrupt them.

00:42:11.000 And probably that's the drive of Paul's letters.

00:42:14.000 I wonder if it is.

00:42:15.000 Anyway, my point, mate, is that we are required to deliver the apologetics to this generation.

00:42:24.000 We're required to understand their vocabulary.

00:42:26.000 We're required to understand their suffering.

00:42:29.000 Some of that suffering will be universal. 0.88

00:42:31.000 And when I stepped down from My ludicrous, ridiculous, untenable dream to actually be Jesus and accepted we don't need anyone else to be Jesus because Jesus is real.

00:42:42.000 You don't need to imitate him unless it's through following him and emulating and modeling after and following and pursuing and becoming smaller so that he's greater.

00:42:53.000 But he will always be, you're always his accomplice.

00:42:56.000 He's the groom, and we're the best man, fingers crossed.

00:43:00.000 You know, what I. Collectively, indeed.

00:43:04.000 I'm just thinking of John.

00:43:05.000 I'm thinking of the Baptist, like that, you know, like I'm thinking of John the Baptist.

00:43:09.000 And yeah, I'm happy to be just a member of a church, of an assembly.

00:43:14.000 But.

00:43:15.000 What I think changes then, and what changed for me is this is important.

00:43:21.000 It took me out of competitiveness with men, and it continues to because I still twitch like a dead fish on the dock.

00:43:28.000 You know, I still feel the old.

00:43:30.000 I want to compete, I want to control.

00:43:33.000 But like, I recognize that, you know, that there's Paul, Sylvan, like, you know, they're all hanging at various points with various errors and problems.

00:43:46.000 Like, that's what we got to do now.

00:43:49.000 We got to become, we got to recognize that we have different roles in him and for him.

00:43:56.000 And we've got to likely, as probably all of them listed did, emulate him, like to drink the cup he drank.

00:44:03.000 And I would say, probably an indication of it working and not working might be how close you get to that situation.

00:44:10.000 Like, if you're not, I nearly said it to that guy yesterday.

00:44:13.000 Like, I was doing it just before I chatted to you, mate.

00:44:16.000 Like, I was on with this bloke who's like a Democrat, and I think he's a sincere person.

00:44:20.000 But I sort of wanted to say, look, the reason you're still in that world is because nothing you're doing is relevant.

00:44:24.000 No one cares.

00:44:25.000 If you're raising money for the Democrat Party or the Republican Party or whatever, it doesn't matter.

00:44:29.000 No one cares because as long as that's a controlled explosion, in there, you're not doing anything relevant.

00:44:36.000 The people that have the institutions and elites and maybe even satanic entities and dark spiritual powers that have real control do not care about which group you have running their institutions.

00:44:49.000 They don't care.

00:44:51.000 So, an indication that you're moving into territory.

00:44:54.000 That is relevant, is you'll start getting attacked.

00:44:57.000 And that might not be, that's not necessary.

00:44:59.000 I'm not claiming that me being attacked is a demonstration of heroism.

00:45:02.000 It's not.

00:45:03.000 I'm clumsy, actually.

00:45:04.000 I'm quite clumsy.

00:45:06.000 But if we continue, I'm talking about you, would you believe?

00:45:08.000 Like, if you carry on going, you know, uncharacteristically, I'm not talking about myself.

00:45:13.000 Like, if you carry on, it's going to get heavy.

00:45:18.000 Dude, this last year, I've never experienced demonic attacks like I did this last year.

00:45:25.000 It's what are they like?

00:45:27.000 What are they?

00:45:27.000 So, so I sometimes when someone says demonic attacks, I sometimes go, Have you, do you know who Rion Swihalar is?

00:45:32.000 No, I'm gonna shut up.

00:45:33.000 Tell me everything.

00:45:34.000 Rion is the former head of the Church of Satan in South Africa.

00:45:38.000 So, I have it's not very satanic to have like infrastructure like that.

00:45:41.000 I feel like, you know, hello, welcome to the church, welcome to the Church of Satan, Johannesburg, the vision.

00:45:46.000 No, no, no.

00:45:46.000 Come on in.

00:45:47.000 So, it, yeah, so the whole thing's weird.

00:45:50.000 Um, and he'll explain to you that there's different types of Satanism, there's theistic Satanism, or I don't even know how to describe it, where they worship Satan, and there's Satanism, where they just worship themselves and they call themselves Satanists.

00:46:03.000 Either way, there's gnarly stuff that happens.

00:46:04.000 There's sacrifice.

00:46:05.000 There's mutilation of the body.

00:46:07.000 There's really crazy stuff, right?

00:46:09.000 Like shocker, right?

00:46:10.000 Church of Satan's doing weird stuff.

00:46:13.000 So I have the former head of the Church of Satan on my podcast.

00:46:15.000 Great podcast.

00:46:16.000 Fascinating.

00:46:17.000 This dude.

00:46:17.000 Former head.

00:46:19.000 Former head of the Church of Satan.

00:46:20.000 Is that a good thing?

00:46:21.000 Like, oh, it didn't work out.

00:46:23.000 Yeah, no, no, no.

00:46:24.000 Well, here's the story.

00:46:25.000 So he was going to do a ritual.

00:46:29.000 I'll tell this story and then I'll get to the attacks.

00:46:31.000 So.

00:46:32.000 Rion, former head of the church, Satan is going to do a ritual.

00:46:35.000 They wanted to find out if the Antichrist had been born yet. 0.73

00:46:37.000 So, Satanism, it's like Christianity in reverse. 0.90

00:46:40.000 So, in the same way that we're awaiting the Messiah, they're awaiting the Antichrist. 0.97

00:46:44.000 So, they will summon demons. 0.54

00:46:45.000 They'll go into this back dark room and no lights in this room.

00:46:49.000 They just light candles in a pentagram stuff.

00:46:51.000 They do all the creepy stuff, the blood, all that stuff in this room.

00:46:53.000 I don't know exactly.

00:46:54.000 He's like, I don't want to make people better Satanists, so I'm not going to tell you all the things that we did.

00:46:57.000 So, he's like, I'm in this room.

00:46:59.000 I got the candles.

00:47:00.000 I'm lighting the candles.

00:47:01.000 Floodlights come on the room.

00:47:02.000 Oh, there's no artificial lighting in this room.

00:47:05.000 He turns around.

00:47:05.000 He said, I see a Middle Eastern man.

00:47:07.000 And he.

00:47:08.000 He says, Who are you?

00:47:09.000 He says, I'm Yeshua of Nazareth.

00:47:11.000 And he said, I'm getting chills.

00:47:13.000 He said, Instantly, I was flooded with love.

00:47:15.000 He's like, And the only reason I knew it was love, because I went to a radio station two weeks earlier and I was talking about my Satanism thing.

00:47:23.000 And there was this woman who I knew was a Christian that worked at the radio station.

00:47:26.000 She came up to me and looked me in the eyes and then hugged me.

00:47:29.000 And she's like, And he goes, The same feeling that I had from her is what I experienced a million X from Yeshua in this room.

00:47:39.000 Leaves this room shook, right?

00:47:41.000 He doesn't do the ritual, obviously.

00:47:43.000 He leaves.

00:47:45.000 The other satanic church members have no idea what happened to this guy.

00:47:48.000 No, they're not there.

00:47:50.000 He was all alone.

00:47:52.000 And he said, he goes to the beach and he realizes that he's been on the wrong side.

00:47:58.000 And he said, the Holy Spirit floods him.

00:48:00.000 He has to go through this whole demonic deliverance over the next two months.

00:48:03.000 He leaves the Church of Satan, which was a whole other ball of wax.

00:48:06.000 It's not very easy to leave the Church of Satan.

00:48:08.000 It's like, Leaving gangster disciples or MS 13, like they're not going to let you go easily, but eventually they let him go because he was kind of like a public, more high profile person and he has to carry a gun on him all the time.

00:48:18.000 There's attacks, all this crazy stuff.

00:48:21.000 Anyway, I have him on my podcast.

00:48:23.000 Lovely man, amazing man of God.

00:48:26.000 And that night, I wasn't scared or anything.

00:48:29.000 I'm just like, that was a sick podcast.

00:48:31.000 Go to sleep.

00:48:32.000 My wife and I are up the entire night looking at each other like we're not anxious.

00:48:35.000 There's no anxiety.

00:48:36.000 There's nothing weird.

00:48:37.000 We're just looking at each other like, what is happening?

00:48:39.000 Like 4 a.m., 5 a.m., 6 a.m., finally the kids wake up.

00:48:43.000 We didn't sleep a wink.

00:48:44.000 The next night, the same thing happens.

00:48:46.000 So we're going on 48 hours now, zero sleep.

00:48:49.000 I mean, I'm talking like, like we just chugged five Red Bulls.

00:48:52.000 Like, what is happening?

00:48:53.000 And then it clicks, uh oh, I think this is an attack.

00:48:58.000 The next night, all of our kids start projectile vomiting at the same time.

00:49:02.000 I had three kids at the time, I got four now.

00:49:04.000 Three kids start puking everywhere to the point where we lost all of our towels, all of our sheets, everything gone.

00:49:09.000 We're like doing laundry the whole night.

00:49:11.000 So now, Three nights in a row, no sleep.

00:49:14.000 I wake up that day with my eye completely red.

00:49:18.000 My eye goes completely red. 0.52

00:49:19.000 My wife starts puking now.

00:49:21.000 So now I'm only seeing pretty much out of one eye.

00:49:23.000 This one's blown up.

00:49:25.000 That night, my throat blows up.

00:49:26.000 I get canker sores all in the back of my throat.

00:49:29.000 The next day, I'm just like walking through the neighborhood, like praying, like, what is happening, Lord?

00:49:33.000 This is crazy.

00:49:34.000 Snakes start, I'm talking literal snakes start coming out.

00:49:38.000 I'm not just talking one or two.

00:49:39.000 I'm talking multiple snakes start slithering right in front of me.

00:49:43.000 This went on for two months.

00:49:45.000 Of snakes, like pretty much every time I'd go out and walk, snakes.

00:49:48.000 So I'm, I'm calling in my prayer support.

00:49:51.000 I'm calling my prayer people.

00:49:52.000 Finally, I call Rion.

00:49:53.000 I'm like, what the frick is happening?

00:49:55.000 This is, this is crazy.

00:49:56.000 I've never been attacked like this in my life.

00:49:58.000 He goes, Oh, yeah, dude.

00:49:59.000 He's like, I've been meaning to tell you, you're all over the message boards.

00:50:03.000 I'm like, what are the message boards?

00:50:04.000 He's like, Yeah, in South Africa and in America, there are these satanic message boards and our podcast has been circling.

00:50:11.000 They're cursing you.

00:50:12.000 You've got curses against your family.

00:50:14.000 He's like, Oh, it makes sense.

00:50:15.000 The snakes are on the same frequency as us.

00:50:17.000 I'm like, I still to this day don't.

00:50:19.000 I need to ask him, like, what does that even mean that the snakes are on the same frequency as us?

00:50:22.000 So he starts telling me, like, all this stuff that's happening because he's got members, he's got friends that are still in Satanism that are texting him these pictures and they're trying to get out.

00:50:31.000 Like, it's really hard to get out of Satanism.

00:50:33.000 And so, because they do dissociative identity disorder from the time you're six years old.

00:50:37.000 I mean, it's really gnarly stuff that's happening in the satanic church.

00:50:41.000 Like, again, I've had to get an education on this stuff now because this was the world I started going into.

00:50:46.000 Like, here I am trying to start the nice little Jesus People podcast.

00:50:49.000 I've once satanized on, and now the Lord starts sending me all these other satanists and all these other witches and stuff.

00:50:53.000 And so I'm like, oh my gosh, all right, here we go.

00:50:55.000 But I had to learn how to fight.

00:50:58.000 I had to learn how to fight spiritually.

00:50:59.000 Because if you would have told me, if I would have been on the other side of this podcast two years ago, I would have been like, this guy's a quack. 0.53

00:51:05.000 Like, this is crazy town. 0.91

00:51:07.000 This is like charismatic, crazy town wacko ness, right?

00:51:10.000 I was a very skeptical, very conservative, five point Calvinist at Reformed Theological Seminary.

00:51:15.000 This is my background, where I came from.

00:51:17.000 Then I started seeing miracle after miracle. 0.79

00:51:19.000 Now I'm getting the Satanic Church sending snakes my way.

00:51:21.000 I'm like, what is happening to me?

00:51:23.000 So I had to learn.

00:51:26.000 Okay, I'm going to call my prayer people.

00:51:29.000 I'm going to, we're going to anoint the doors of our house.

00:51:31.000 We're going to do all the quote unquote charismatic stuff, right?

00:51:34.000 We're going to take communion.

00:51:36.000 This thing didn't break.

00:51:37.000 Like the spiritual fog, as I would call it, just the weight.

00:51:41.000 It was this heaviness for two months, didn't break until I put out a post on Instagram.

00:51:46.000 And I just, I think I just said, Miller home in shambles, please pray.

00:51:50.000 And then when I had tens of thousands of, you know, I think of like the lasers from Star Wars all coming together and converging to take out the Death Star, you know, now I got air support.

00:51:59.000 Now I got tens of thousands of prayers.

00:52:01.000 Boom.

00:52:01.000 I'm telling you within five minutes of putting out that post, something.

00:52:05.000 Physically broke.

00:52:07.000 It wasn't just like, oh, I feel, I don't feel as anxious anymore.

00:52:09.000 There was something that happened spiritually that broke off.

00:52:13.000 And then I had to learn how do you, how you go into battle?

00:52:17.000 How do you, how you arm up for battle?

00:52:18.000 You know, go on then.

00:52:20.000 Because like I know that this is actually, no, you did the whole thing, didn't you?

00:52:24.000 You set up your man there, the Satanist.

00:52:26.000 Then you did the story of how you had satanic attacks as a result of having him on there and then you being passed around on message boards like a tray of biscuits that are. 0.99

00:52:36.000 Brazilian orgy. 0.98

00:52:37.000 Well, now it's not just Satanists that don't like me. 0.99

00:52:40.000 Now the trans community doesn't like me. 0.81

00:52:42.000 Why aren't they getting involved? 0.96

00:52:45.000 They don't want to team up with it. 0.92

00:52:47.000 It can't be LGBTQ plus S. Satanists can't jump in. 0.99

00:52:52.000 Have your own thing. 0.96

00:52:53.000 You'd be surprised, man.

00:52:54.000 I'm not trying to dog the whole LGBTQ community and make it sound like they're all Satanists. 0.91

00:52:58.000 What I'm saying is there is a four headed death cult right now in America.

00:53:03.000 We will continue this conversation with Ryan Miller next week on Stay Free with Russell Brand.

00:53:10.000 Hey, every Sunday, me and my wife Laura do Sunday service where we talk about, well, have a look.

00:53:27.000 I would love to begin today with a reading from Jesus' Calling, Enjoying Peace in His Presence, which you read daily, don't you? 0.98

00:53:37.000 Yeah, the Catholics don't like it.

00:53:41.000 I don't necessarily mean all of the Catholic Church, but I mean like my mate Joe, who I consider to be the main representative of Catholicism, not Pope Leo, not Peter.

00:53:52.000 What about my dad?

00:53:54.000 Bernard Gallagher.

00:53:55.000 Did he like this?

00:53:56.000 I don't know. 1.00

00:53:58.000 Like, I mean, I muck around when I pray with Catholics. 1.00

00:54:00.000 Like, I was with my mate Preston yesterday, and I go, Should we pray? 1.00

00:54:04.000 I go, Or do you need some candelabras?

00:54:06.000 And should we get a deacon and a cardinal?

00:54:09.000 Is it all right if we just do it on our own?

00:54:11.000 Would you like some infrastructure?

00:54:13.000 He really laughed.

00:54:14.000 Okay, that's good.

00:54:16.000 Humour is important in religion.

00:54:19.000 We need it.

00:54:20.000 I think that's his present, his spontaneous, joyful spirit in us.

00:54:23.000 Let us know what you think about that in the comments and chat, if you would.

00:54:26.000 No, Bernard, your father, very sincere man of God, I would say.

00:54:30.000 Of course, and I love the Catholic Church and I love the Rosary and I loved it when I went on that show.

00:54:36.000 What's it called?

00:54:37.000 Pints with Aquinas and Maria, who sent me this wonderful book, Transformation in Christ by Dietrich von Hildebrand.

00:54:44.000 I'm finding this most informative.

00:54:47.000 But for myself, early in my walk with our Lord, I like to have the access that comes directly, although I can see why people would like tradition.

00:54:57.000 Anyway, though, my point about Jesus calling, sorry for this long interjection, was because the device it uses.

00:55:04.000 If you're not familiar, it's Christ talking in the first person, which is a device also used by the famous and fantastic Course in Miracles.

00:55:16.000 And some people would say, isn't that a little presumptuous to talk directly in the first person as the Son of God, the living God, Jesus Christ?

00:55:24.000 And the answer is yes, it is, isn't it?

00:55:27.000 But when I read the introduction to Jesus' Call in, the sincerity of Sarah Young is so sort of heartwarming and incredible that I just have no questions about her.

00:55:37.000 Yeah.

00:55:38.000 And could you say also that presumably when she's writing this book, she is presumably deep in prayer and channeling what's coming to her?

00:55:46.000 And you could say that what's coming to you is from God.

00:55:49.000 So, I mean, I don't know, but I completely see how that could be strange for some people.

00:55:56.000 Have you built up your chair so you're taller than me now?

00:55:58.000 Because something doesn't make sense.

00:56:00.000 I'll tell you what it doesn't.

00:56:00.000 Ain't right.

00:56:01.000 I'll tell you what it is.

00:56:02.000 Do you see?

00:56:03.000 It's the clash of the knees.

00:56:05.000 We're in a small space trying to fit into this frame.

00:56:08.000 And I find that obviously you've got very long legs, and I find that you're Kind of clashing and budging me out with your long knees.

00:56:15.000 It's almost like under the table, up here in what's visible, I'm all kind and saintly, but under the table, like a sort of some dark, evil swan, I'm thrashing around with my femur in a territorial war.

00:56:28.000 Well, it's simply.

00:56:30.000 Actually, if anyone's to blame here, it's you.

00:56:31.000 I know.

00:56:31.000 Your knees clanging.

00:56:32.000 That's why I've kept it that side of the leg.

00:56:34.000 So what it is is, I'm on my haunches.

00:56:36.000 Is that the word?

00:56:37.000 Haunches is.

00:56:37.000 I'm on my haunches.

00:56:40.000 Because every week I get.

00:56:43.000 Numb legs, you get numb legs because we're kneeling and we're sort of kneeling, but we're on the floor.

00:56:48.000 And yeah, I'm just trying to be more comfortable.

00:56:52.000 I'm not trying to be taller.

00:56:53.000 So, my mate Joe, he doesn't like this because he doesn't like the presumption.

00:56:56.000 He doesn't, and indeed, isn't that a wonderful example?

00:56:59.000 He doesn't like the idea of the intercession of this voice as being first person Christ.

00:57:05.000 But I suppose part, you know, the establishment of the Protestant church has got numerous and interesting roots, but part of it is about certainly Lutheranism.

00:57:15.000 Hey, we don't need all of these various institutions.

00:57:19.000 Now, of course, you know, as avid fans of the righteous gemstones.

00:57:23.000 You're bringing that up now, are you?

00:57:25.000 We haven't even opened the service.

00:57:27.000 Go on, go on, because humor is important, like we said early.

00:57:31.000 Go on.

00:57:31.000 Well, the glory of the Roman Catholic Church is the tradition, the beauty, you feel that something holy is being protected.

00:57:43.000 But of course, the Orthodox Church would make a comparable claim that they are the rightful harbingers and containers of the message.

00:57:51.000 Yeah. 0.95

00:57:52.000 And the tension seems to me to be to get into.

00:57:57.000 What do you want to call it?

00:57:58.000 Ecumenism.

00:58:00.000 Ecumenism, correct me in the comments, would you?

00:58:02.000 Is, well, the Roman Catholic Church, glorious, but there's certainly, it seems to me, problems that emerged when it alloyed to the Roman Empire.

00:58:11.000 The Orthodox Church doesn't know enough about it to criticise it.

00:58:14.000 Protestantism, it can become little fiefdoms of corruption as beautifully parodied in the actually more loving and affectionate than it first seems. 0.94

00:58:25.000 Righteous Gemstones, which is an excellent Danny McBride show.

00:58:29.000 About a mega church and the corruption that goes on, but also the goodwill and sincerity.

00:58:35.000 And redemption.

00:58:35.000 There's redemption.

00:58:36.000 I like the sermons too.

00:58:38.000 I've got to say, sometimes when Eli Gemstone's actually closing off and it's his voice over the top, I'm like, this is a good message.

00:58:46.000 So I actually was saying to Russell, do you think they have pastoral guidance?

00:58:49.000 What would the word be?

00:58:50.000 Pastoral guidance?

00:58:51.000 Pastoral guidance, because I don't think this is all coming just from comedy writers.

00:58:56.000 But yeah, we've had, we initially had conflict, didn't we, Russell?

00:58:59.000 Because we watched the first episode and it does have this.

00:59:02.000 Amazing sea where they're baptizing people in a wave pool and they're like clashing against these waves.

00:59:09.000 And it's really, really, we did cry with laughter over and we still are watching it, some of the things, but we've had the conflict of saying, Gosh, is it blasphemous to be watching and laughing at this?

00:59:20.000 But actually, it's when I went into it a bit further, it's what does it make you feel?

00:59:26.000 And because we can see and point out the things like they are sort of respectful of.

00:59:31.000 Like that little thing where they accidentally throw a Jesus, a wobbling Jesus that you'd have on a dashboard.

00:59:38.000 And then they spend, they're like, that was Jesus.

00:59:42.000 And then Eli Dempsey says, I think, oh, no, it wasn't.

00:59:46.000 I thought it was a karate man.

00:59:48.000 That's a karate man.

00:59:49.000 That's a karate man.

00:59:50.000 That's Jesus, daddy.

00:59:51.000 And then they spend eight, they glue it together, they glue it back together again.

00:59:56.000 And like, I think there's a lot of like the redemption is clear.

00:59:59.000 The sermons are like the talking over the narration is good in the sermons.

01:00:05.000 What do you feel about that?

01:00:06.000 I think that Danny McBride, in a sense, you would have to know the intention of the author.

01:00:11.000 Like, we are, what is the intention of our author?

01:00:14.000 What is the intention of God?

01:00:16.000 The intention of God is for us to live in love and love one another and be in him and he in us.

01:00:22.000 What is the intention of Danny McBride?

01:00:23.000 I don't know Danny McBride, but I think he's a very, very great comedian.

01:00:28.000 And at the moment, I would say he is a man of the South out of Georgia that's going to be familiar with those megachurches and stuff.

01:00:36.000 And of course, we can just research this and find out for sure.

01:00:38.000 But has made his money and name and living in Hollywood.

01:00:41.000 And probably there are critiques of both of those institutions available in Righteous Gemstones, i.e., the church will be corrupted.

01:00:50.000 Even if you look at the book of Acts, there's weird stuff going on as they try to grapple with the holy power of God.

01:00:57.000 Or those that have known him and walked with him try to bring about his kingdom, practice his ways while still living in human fallibility.

01:01:04.000 At one point, Jesse Gemstone, one of the oldest brothers or son of the main.

01:01:08.000 The main bride plays him.

01:01:10.000 Played by Danny McBride, says to his son, who wants to be a Hollywood stuntman, You go there, you're going to fail. 0.98

01:01:18.000 Hollywood hates Christians. 0.99

01:01:20.000 They hate Christians. 0.99

01:01:23.000 So it sort of knows itself. 0.96

01:01:25.000 And also, it's mocking or ridiculing that sort of Christian showbiz component. 0.93

01:01:31.000 It is. 1.00

01:01:32.000 It's pretty funny.

01:01:33.000 It is very funny.

01:01:44.000 Thanks for joining us today.

01:01:45.000 We will be back on Wednesday, not with more of the same, but more of the different.

01:01:48.000 Until then, if you can, stay free.

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