Stay Free - Russel Brand - Calley Means (They’re Making Us Sick!)

00:00:00.000 Hello there, you Awakening Wonders.

00:00:00.000 Hey, hey, hey.

00:00:02.000 Thanks for joining us on this voyage towards truth and freedom.

00:00:04.000 Wherever you're watching this right now, the whole show will only be available on Rumble because there's a point where the truth flows through us so fast that the only way to stop it will be to bomb that pipeline from the Lord directly to thine ears.

00:00:18.000 A little bit like the Nord Stream pipeline.

00:00:21.000 Who Could have done it.

00:00:22.000 Hmm.

00:00:23.000 A Pulitzer Prize winning journalist has written an account.

00:00:26.000 He's perhaps the greatest investigative journalist in American history.

00:00:29.000 The conspiracy theorist nuts, I bet.

00:00:31.000 We'll be talking about his article and these breakthroughs and we'll be piecing together a new narrative about who blew up that Nord Stream pipeline.

00:00:40.000 Also, this will only be visible on Rumble because we'll have clicked right off of YouTube, Twitter, etc.

00:00:45.000 by then.

00:00:46.000 We're talking about Ukrainian corruption and one of the oligarchs who's been booted off the scene had interesting connections to a certain slovenly laptop owner.

00:00:56.000 We'll also have Callie Means on the show talking to us about Big Food and Big Pharma organizing systemic biases and corruption in order to, well, get us all tubby and unwell and such like, in order to keep some sort of, I suppose, conveyor belt of ill health. 0.99

00:01:11.000 First low, Ukrainian leader Zelensky, Vladimir, or as Justin Trudeau would have it, Vladimir Zelensky is in the UK potentially getting every single fighter jet we've got to not fight in a proxy war.

00:01:26.000 That was Boris Johnson.

00:01:27.000 That's what he wants.

00:01:29.000 How can something not be a proxy war if you give someone every single one of your jets Yeah, well, that's the question, isn't it?

00:01:36.000 It's a tricky one.

00:01:37.000 One of the ones we were asking.

00:01:38.000 Rishi Sunak.

00:01:39.000 What's Boris even doing talking about it anymore?

00:01:41.000 He's not going on about this stuff, mate.

00:01:44.000 If you don't know this, in our country, we won't let him be Prime Minister anymore because he keeps decorating his house on the sly, charging us for it.

00:01:50.000 Holding parties throughout the lockdown, which Rishi Sunak went to.

00:01:53.000 It's extraordinary, these people, the way that they're allowed to be charged.

00:01:56.000 It's also a bit weird that he's calling for all these typhoon jets, which I think Zelensky's calling wings of freedom.

00:02:01.000 Last time I understood a bit about fighter jets is they contain

00:02:06.000 EXPLOSIVES but yeah Boris as we know by

00:02:12.000 that Israeli former Prime Minister Naftali Bennett the other week about

00:02:18.000 Boris literally stopped peace talks so it's a strange thing now

00:02:21.000 that he's going we'll give you these jets He disrupted those peace talks for reasons that we cannot

00:02:27.000 yet explain. Some might imagine it's because there were still profits to be extracted from

00:02:33.000 the situation. There were still military industrial complex profits to...

00:02:37.000 be made there's still potential for big tech and surveillance advantages to be

00:02:42.000 exacted and enacted upon a potentially 100% digital Ukraine after the war. One

00:02:49.000 thing for sure is that Boris Johnson will be fuming that he ain't Prime Minister

00:02:53.000 no more because he's lost the opportunity to go on a series of like

00:02:57.000 peculiar PR photo ops with the Prime Minister and now of course is Rishi

00:03:02.000 Sunak. He doesn't look comfortable in the role I think he looks preppy and

00:03:05.000 awkward. I think a lot of other leaders are turned on by and intimidated by Zelensky because

00:03:11.000 he's a wartime leader. Look at for example Look at his Boots, both in those Star Wars

00:03:16.000 type helmets, that neither of them look good in, let's look at the next image, look at

00:03:20.000 him grinning there doing selfies in that. All the while through these images, why don't

00:03:25.000 you say to yourself mentally, there's a war on!

00:03:30.000 Why are you grinning and enjoying yourself so much while discussing this stuff?

00:03:34.000 There's a war on, there's a war on, there's a war on, there's a war on.

00:03:36.000 Also, of course, Zelensky is currently afforded unique status and I'm in no position to say that he's anything other than a heroic leader while being attacked by a foreign aggressor that's doubtlessly a much more powerful nation, although there are alternative narratives available for what exacerbated tensions between Russia and the West and the

00:03:55.000 NATO infringement arguments and we'll be talking about the Nord Stream pipeline in some

00:03:59.000 detail later and how that plays into the relationships between Russia and Europe and how America

00:04:04.000 have long wanted to intercede in those relationships.

00:04:07.000 This is all fascinating stuff.

00:04:09.000 But for now, let's just focus on Zelensky's unique positioning in the media as a solely

00:04:15.000 heroic figure.

00:04:16.000 This is a mainstream media article from the 3rd of October 2021, obviously prior to the war, where Zelensky was talked of as just another Ukrainian leader.

00:04:27.000 Look at this.

00:04:27.000 Zelensky is rather similar to his predecessors because he had an undisclosed stake or has previously had an undisclosed stake in an offshore And when you sort of ally that with all of the oligarchs that are being booted out and sort of concealed and shut down, one of whom has some unique relationships with a certain someone whose laptops all get mended in private, it suggests to me that there's a degree of complexity in this case.

00:04:51.000 And let me know in the chat, let me know in the stream.

00:04:53.000 And if you're a member of Locals, you can talk to us directly right now.

00:04:56.000 They tried to make him a Messiah figure, says Morris Cat.

00:04:58.000 Here on Locals.

00:04:59.000 You can join us there if you want to.

00:05:01.000 It seems to me that what we really want, Gareth, is more honest and rigorous reporting and biased reporting.

00:05:07.000 Well, exactly.

00:05:08.000 It's not to say that world leaders aren't corrupt in general.

00:05:12.000 He's maybe not that different from anyone we could mention.

00:05:15.000 We've just literally named Boris Johnson.

00:05:17.000 We know all the stuff that's going on around with Joe Biden at the moment.

00:05:20.000 So it's not to say that there aren't other corrupt world leaders, but it is to say that there's more complexity than someone just appearing at the Golden Globes and casting in the way that like Sean Penn gave him an Oscar, that he was some kind of heroic.

00:05:33.000 I mean, I guess he's lucky he's still heroic.

00:05:35.000 It's not as simple.

00:05:36.000 It is a unique.

00:05:37.000 Situation when you're not an actor or anything or even like a sound technician or a makeup artist and you get given an Oscar for being in a war.

00:05:45.000 That's unusual.

00:05:46.000 That's not even what the Oscars are normally about.

00:05:49.000 So it's an extraordinary presentation and I would say an attempt to reduce the complexity of the argument to simple psychological notions, philosophical, theological ideas of good and evil, denying the complexity of this situation, a complexity that we'll be examining while looking at the Nord Stream Pipeline case.

00:06:07.000 We're going to be slipping off just onto Rumble in a minute, particularly when we talk about the oligarchical connection between the most powerful family.

00:06:13.000 Is it the most powerful family in America?

00:06:15.000 Who do you think is the most powerful family in America?

00:06:16.000 Let me know in the chat, let me know in the comments.

00:06:18.000 And a corrupt Ukrainian oligarch.

00:06:21.000 A lot of questions come to the forefront.

00:06:23.000 There's been a new article about the Nord Stream Pipeline leaks and who benefits from it.

00:06:29.000 Allegations have been levelled by the US, Russia, Poland and other players in the region on who is behind the leak.

00:06:34.000 Let's see if we Can like the greatest British detective in history, Sherlock Holmes, deduce who could have blown up that Nord Stream pipeline?

00:06:43.000 Who had a motive?

00:06:44.000 Who benefits?

00:06:45.000 I understand that Russia get 45% of their annual treasury.

00:06:50.000 That would have been the case from Nord Stream 2.

00:06:52.000 It was going to be extremely profitable because of the deals that they were going to do with Germany.

00:06:56.000 In a sense, Nord Stream 2 was their avatar too.

00:06:59.000 Right.

00:06:59.000 It was a sequel to their earlier pipeline, but it was still going to be highly profitable.

00:07:04.000 So if Russia can't have blown up that pipeline, because not only was it financially necessary for them, it was also strategically necessary to maintain good relationships with Europe, who were getting their natural gas supplies from Russia, potentially for a considerable amount of time.

00:07:19.000 Let's have a look at who else could have blown up that pipeline.

00:07:22.000 Let's put together some clues.

00:07:23.000 You up for this, Gary?

00:07:24.000 Yeah.

00:07:25.000 Let us know in the comments if you're over on YouTube or on Twitter who you think's blown up that pipeline.

00:07:25.000 Play along at home.

00:07:30.000 Let's have a look at our first piece of evidence.

00:07:33.000 I call to the stand Joe Biden.

00:07:36.000 If Russia invades, that means tanks or troops crossing the border of Ukraine.

00:07:44.000 We know what invasions are at this point in history.

00:07:46.000 Thanks for explaining that, Joe.

00:07:47.000 What do you mean, invade?

00:07:49.000 Oh, you know, tanks, armies and that.

00:07:50.000 Trains, things like that.

00:07:53.000 We did say trains.

00:07:54.000 We did at one point.

00:07:54.000 It was trains.

00:07:55.000 That's not going to happen.

00:07:56.000 That's an unreliable method.

00:07:57.000 What if there's no tracks?

00:07:59.000 Again, then there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2.

00:08:05.000 We will bring an end to it.

00:08:07.000 Hmm, we will bring an end to Nord Stream 2.

00:08:10.000 I think I'm going to put that in my plan.

00:08:12.000 What does he mean by that?

00:08:12.000 What does he mean?

00:08:13.000 What does he mean though?

00:08:14.000 Don't jump to conclusions.

00:08:15.000 Unless you're a conspiracy theorist, then you will jump to conclusions.

00:08:17.000 I know what you guys are like.

00:08:18.000 Like Seymour Hersh.

00:08:20.000 Seymour Hersh, one of the great Pulitzer Prize winning conspiracy theorists.

00:08:23.000 One of his conspiracy theories is that Abu Ghraib were torturing prisoners during the Iraq War.

00:08:28.000 Another of his conspiracy theories is that civilians were killed during Vietnam, for which I believe that reporting was what won him that. 1.00

00:08:35.000 Conspiracy theorist gone.

00:08:37.000 They are going to have to start renaming that.

00:08:41.000 First Chris Hedges, now Seymour Hersh.

00:08:43.000 Greenwald, conspiracy theorist.

00:08:47.000 They're all Pulitzer Prize winning conspiracy theorists.

00:08:51.000 Okay, so Joe Biden, you saw that didn't you?

00:08:53.000 You heard it.

00:08:53.000 We're not sharing in a mass delusion induced by a globalist system.

00:08:58.000 That wants us all dumb and distracted, are we? 0.97

00:09:00.000 Hypnotised by centralist interests. 0.98

00:09:03.000 We all heard Joe Biden say, we will end that Nord Stream pipeline.

00:09:06.000 But that's not motive enough, or it's certainly not evidence enough.

00:09:09.000 Let's see if way back in 2014, Secretaries of State were talking about the energy relationships between the United States and Europe and potential competition with Russia.

00:09:19.000 Have a look.

00:09:20.000 You want to depend more on the North American energy platform, the tremendous bounty of oil and gas that we're finding in North America.

00:09:28.000 You want to have pipelines that don't go through Ukraine and Russia.

00:09:33.000 For years we've tried to get the Europeans to be interested in different pipeline routes.

00:09:37.000 Hmm, different pipeline routes.

00:09:40.000 Now these are all interesting pieces of evidence.

00:09:42.000 That's evidence that America had an imperative to form relationships between Europe and the States when it comes to the purchase of national energy.

00:09:50.000 Joe Biden said that he will end the Nord Stream pipeline too, particularly in the event of war.

00:09:56.000 But we've saved the best of the investigative journalists to last.

00:10:00.000 A man who's not yet won a Pulitzer Prize but Surely, if these conspiracy theories keep flowing, it's only a matter of time.

00:10:05.000 This is from my interview with former Navy SEAL Jocko Willink, where I asked him outright, is it possible to blow up a pipeline under the water if you're a Navy SEAL?

00:10:15.000 Have a look.

00:10:16.000 One of the things they said around the Nord Stream 2 pipeline is it wouldn't be possible that, like, America don't have the submersive capacity.

00:10:23.000 In the Baltic Sea, at a level of 200 feet, purely hypothetically, would it be possible for a special forces team to undertake the sabotage of a pipeline.

00:10:34.000 Yeah, I mean, absolutely.

00:10:36.000 Yeah, seemed almost offended by the question.

00:10:41.000 Draco Willink, that great big testosterone comet, that great blazing mighty meteorite of testosterone, was offended by the question.

00:10:52.000 Here is the article that's provoked this interest by Seymour Hersh.

00:10:56.000 Last June the Navy divers Operating under the cover of a widely publicised mid-summer NATO exercise known as Battletops 22, planted the remotely triggered explosives that three months later destroyed three of the four Nord Stream pipelines, according to a source with direct knowledge of the operational planning.

00:11:12.000 OK, what's next?

00:11:14.000 Biden and Nuland's indiscretion, if that's what it was.

00:11:17.000 And that's, of course, a reference to both that Victoria Nuland who's been in successive administrations and she says, oh, well, we'd do it, we'd blow it up.

00:11:24.000 There's a real cool story behind this, isn't there?

00:11:27.000 Would you explain it?

00:11:28.000 Which one's this one, mate?

00:11:29.000 Well, like, if they publicly say, if Biden publicly says, we're going to blow up that pipeline, they don't have to go via Congress for a covert operation.

00:11:39.000 That's mental, isn't it?

00:11:40.000 So it wasn't a mistake for Biden to go, yeah, we'll blow it up.

00:11:42.000 And for Victoria Nuland to say, yeah, well, we will end that pipeline. 0.69

00:11:45.000 We'll kick them right up the pipeline. 1.00

00:11:47.000 By doing that, that means that it has to be secret to a degree that it don't even have to get congressional support, which it normally would if it it was a co-op isn't it? Exactly that. Yeah, covert. Yes,

00:11:57.000 correct. A covert operation.

00:11:58.000 Listen, we're only going to be, if you're watching us on Twitter or YouTube, we can

00:12:00.000 only stay with you for another minute because we're going to do our hero

00:12:03.000 presentation. Here's the news, no, here's the effing news and in that we dive pretty

00:12:07.000 deep into Ukrainian corruption. Again, we could not be more sympathetic to the 1.00

00:12:11.000 suffering of Ukrainian people. We are advocating for peace.

00:12:13.000 We support the anti-war marches that are happening around the world,

00:12:16.000 thankfully, right now.

00:12:18.000 And anything humanitarian that can be done to aid Ukrainian people ought to be done. 0.90

00:12:22.000 But if you have a sneaking suspicion that the war machine is being fed, if you think that Zelensky has been elevated to this position of prominence just because temporarily his goals and aims converge with the aims of the globalist, centralist politicians like Rishi Sunak, Like Joe Biden, the new establishment that want to continue to fuel the military-industrial complex, that want to participate in Black Rock's reconstruction of Ukraine, then you have to let us know in the chat, in the comments, and you have to stay and watch our investigative reporting, which hasn't won a Pulitzer Prize yet, but it's only a matter... We've done it the other way around.

00:12:53.000 We start as conspiracy theorists, then we move into the Pulitzer.

00:12:57.000 Sure.

00:12:58.000 It's the old Texas switcheroo.

00:13:00.000 It's how we do it.

00:13:01.000 It's the old switcheroo, isn't it?

00:13:02.000 Watch out, what do we do?

00:13:02.000 Switcheroo!

00:13:03.000 Switcheroo, switcheroo. 0.99

00:13:05.000 So according to the source, some of the senior officials of the CIA determined that blowing up the pipeline no longer could be considered a covert option because the President just announced that we knew how to do it.

00:13:16.000 So that meant, even that, it's tactical.

00:13:18.000 Amazing.

00:13:19.000 Because Joe, there's so much potential for Joe Biden to mess that up with all of his forgetfulness and he's like, big farmer this year and make no mistake, I'll be a bit of gumbo and all that stuff. 0.99

00:13:28.000 Maybe he's not as daft as we think he might be. 0.98

00:13:29.000 He's the whole thing. 0.99

00:13:30.000 Right.

00:13:31.000 He's like, he's duping us.

00:13:33.000 Right. 0.99

00:13:33.000 He's like a hustler. 0.99

00:13:35.000 He's like a pool hustler. 0.94

00:13:36.000 He's pretending to be all like that and then he gets home and he goes, now listen to me, son.

00:13:40.000 Hunter, go take another laptop to Delaware.

00:13:43.000 It's all, the whole thing's a master plan.

00:13:46.000 The plan to blow up Nord Stream 2 and 1 was suddenly downgraded from a covert op requiring that Congress be informed to one that was deemed as highly classified with U.S.

00:13:55.000 Under the law, the source explained, is no longer a legal requirement.

00:13:55.000 military support.

00:13:58.000 What's the next bit of information?

00:14:00.000 The next bit is this.

00:14:02.000 Is this the bit I really like?

00:14:04.000 Because this contextualises the blowing up of the Nord Stream pipeline as advantageous, not only economically, but strategically.

00:14:11.000 Because if you think about this rationally for a moment, Russia is like a serious country with a real history, hundreds of millions of people.

00:14:19.000 Europe and Russia I've got to have a convivial, congenial relationship, whether that's based on trade, military pacts or whatever.

00:14:26.000 For all of us, for them, for us, peace has to be brought about.

00:14:30.000 But the whole Nord Stream, Pipe Stream scheme allows a number of advantages.

00:14:37.000 Firstly, is what we would call in British football, a six pointer.

00:14:41.000 Money that Russia loses, revenue that Russia loses, America gains. 0.56

00:14:45.000 That's fantastic.

00:14:46.000 Also, it creates military disruption.

00:14:48.000 Listen to this.

00:14:49.000 The Nord Stream 2, whose construction was completed in September 2021, would, if approved by German regulators, double the amount of cheap gas that would be available to Germany and Western Europe.

00:14:58.000 Twin agenda, really, isn't it?

00:14:58.000 would also provide enough gas for more than 50% of Germany's annual consumption.

00:15:03.000 As long as Europe remained dependent on the pipelines for cheap natural gas,

00:15:06.000 Washington was afraid that countries like Germany would be reluctant to supply

00:15:09.000 Ukraine with the money and weapons it needed to defeat Russia.

00:15:13.000 It's a twin agenda really, isn't it?

00:15:15.000 Twin agenda?

00:15:15.000 It's a twin agenda!

00:15:17.000 And I think also the United States, I think it was recently announced, they have become the biggest suppliers or exporters of liquid natural gas now.

00:15:23.000 Certainly to the UK.

00:15:25.000 It has worked.

00:15:26.000 As a strategy, it's been brilliant.

00:15:29.000 As a display of moral and ethical diplomacy, it's not been great.

00:15:34.000 Particularly when the whole framing of this, remember, is Russia as aggressor and Ukrainian civilians and their protection and safety as the aim and the goal.

00:15:44.000 Throughout history, how many times have you seen a humanitarian disaster or crisis of some kind presented to you as something that necessarily had to be dealt with only for some of the most powerful interests in the world to benefit?

00:15:54.000 So I think we have to learn to look for that template, not to become cynical and bankrupt or extremist, and certainly not to become conspiracy theorists, but we have to certainly stay aware of that possibility, to stay awake to that potential.

00:16:06.000 Stay free with Russell Brand.

00:16:08.000 See it first on Rumble.

00:16:09.000 Nugente369 says, I hate to agree, but I thought when I saw Zelensky on the news this morning, he looked like he'd just stepped out of Gucci military wear.

00:16:18.000 Then Halua, where are the voices of Ukrainian citizens?

00:16:21.000 Yeah, where are those voices?

00:16:23.000 Then some people say, I've got a lovely shirt.

00:16:24.000 Some people wonder where my hat is.

00:16:26.000 There's lots of inquiries.

00:16:29.000 It takes all sorts to make a crazy world.

00:16:32.000 But one thing that we all require is sweet lady food. 1.00

00:16:36.000 Without nutrition, Gareth, without healthy diets, without good information about the food we eat, we are lost.

00:16:42.000 Callie Means is an activist who used to work in the food and farm industry before leaving to become a whistleblower on companies like Coca-Cola, where he actually was involved in lobbying.

00:16:51.000 For example, did you know that once they blagged it so that Coca-Cola got recommended to children, Kids can drink Coca-Cola.

00:16:58.000 It's good for you.

00:16:59.000 He now highlights the ways in which Big Food and Big Pharma rig the system to maintain profits and keep us unhealthy.

00:17:05.000 Your obesity is their profit.

00:17:07.000 Callie, thanks for joining us, mate.

00:17:09.000 Oh, great to be here, Russell.

00:17:11.000 Now, we've just come out of a crisis where there's been some controversy around injecting children, perhaps needlessly.

00:17:20.000 What is this new obesity drug, Azempic, and what's the story behind it, and why is it dangerous, Callie?

00:17:26.000 Well, this is a scandal that I think is the biggest story in the country right now.

00:17:31.000 The American Academy of Pediatrics, which is what sets the guidelines for pediatrics in this country, is actually a wholly owned subsidiary of Pharma.

00:17:40.000 The majority of their funding comes from Pharma, but they set the agenda.

00:17:44.000 And just last week, they recommended that every obese and overweight person in this country over 12 It's an obesity drug and this is a lifetime injection.

00:17:55.000 It says on the label for this drug that there are serious and unknown metabolic effects if you go off this drug.

00:18:01.000 So we have seen teenagers particularly during COVID now 45% obese or overweight.

00:18:07.000 It's obviously because of a rigged food system.

00:18:09.000 Early in my career, I actually helped Koch rig this system.

00:18:11.000 They pay the American Academy of Pediatrics directly.

00:18:14.000 They pay the American Diabetes Association.

00:18:17.000 Those associations, the medical establishment, has been silent that the fact that the cells and the metabolism of our children have been decimated by our food companies.

00:18:25.000 But now that 45% of children are overweight or obese, we are getting a full-court press to have this obesity drug injected into a large percentage of American teens, making them lifetime patients.

00:18:38.000 What's so dangerous about this, Russell, and honestly heartbreaking, you know, having a new son, is that obesity isn't the problem.

00:18:45.000 The problem is that children systematically through a rigged system are putting, you know, poisonous Processed food into their system.

00:18:53.000 And even if this obesity drug worked perfectly, which it doesn't and has massive side effects, if you're eating 25% less poison, you're still eating poison.

00:19:01.000 You're still feeding yourselves bad things.

00:19:02.000 You're still going to have a lot of diseases and not an optimal life.

00:19:05.000 So once again, it's a distraction.

00:19:07.000 It's a pharma distraction, making lifetime patients.

00:19:10.000 And I think the most important thing here, or one of them, is that this is projected to be the most expensive drug in American history.

00:19:17.000 We're spending, we're literally, we're on track to spend trillions On this drug, it would be much cheaper to just have healthy food for kids.

00:19:25.000 It's extraordinary.

00:19:27.000 Through lobbying and through expenditure on dubious trialling methods, through controlling the stories around food, through controlling the stories of nutrition, it seems that an industry is devoted to creating new clients, new patients, new consumers for their products.

00:19:45.000 Is it fair to say that the undue influence that Big Food is able to exert on organisations that research subjects like diabetes, heart conditions and heart disease, Oncology and cancer, that we're simply not getting the real picture of how we ought to eat and what's healthy.

00:20:01.000 And imagine if overnight processed foods were banned, annihilated, and people just ate healthy.

00:20:07.000 What would the difference be to diseases like heart disease, diabetes, cancer?

00:20:11.000 Yeah, so working for Coke 10 years ago, and now I'm working to change these incentives, we had a strategy.

00:20:16.000 Now, processed food companies contribute 11 times more money to nutritional research in the United States than the NIH.

00:20:23.000 They're basically processed food companies that are funding research, and the direct strategy was to fund thousands and thousands of studies to complicate the issue.

00:20:29.000 Still, to this day, elite research institutions are putting out studies questioning whether sugar causes obesity, right?

00:20:36.000 So it's mass confusion.

00:20:38.000 And then, as you mentioned, the medical system is totally silent on that, right?

00:20:42.000 The medical system is not ringing an alarm bell about childhood diabetes, obesity.

00:20:47.000 They're profiting from it.

00:20:49.000 And I think the key thing to understand is that we've siloed health in every institution, from pharma to med schools to your hospital.

00:20:56.000 They make money on interventions of people that are sick.

00:20:58.000 And as you said, we've siloed diseases into these things, right?

00:21:01.000 We spend $250 billion on cancer.

00:21:03.000 We spend over a trillion dollars on diabetes care, the most prescribed drug in the country.

00:21:07.000 25% of the United States is on a mental health medication.

00:21:11.000 We have 40% of men over 40 in the US are on a statin to prevent heart disease.

00:21:17.000 The problem is, Russell, all of the conditions I just mentioned are going up.

00:21:22.000 As we're treating them, as we're spending trillions of dollars

00:21:25.000 to treat these conditions in silos, they're all getting worse.

00:21:28.000 Rates of everything is going up.

00:21:30.000 It's because the foundational reason for all of the diseases you mentioned, Russell, it's very simple, and we're being gaslighted.

00:21:38.000 It's because of food.

00:21:39.000 Right?

00:21:40.000 If you are metabolically healthy, if you're eating healthy food, if you're at a normal weight, you're very unlikely to die from COVID.

00:21:46.000 You have almost 0% chance of getting diabetes, heart disease, even Alzheimer's, which is now called type 3 diabetes and is highly tied to metabolism.

00:21:54.000 So we are ignoring the actually simple root cause and this is by design, right?

00:22:00.000 People getting sicker and sicker and us kind of confused about why that is.

00:22:05.000 Helps the medical industry profit.

00:22:06.000 And I'll just close with this story.

00:22:09.000 I was actually debating a leading Harvard doctor this week who is a big proponent for Ozempic.

00:22:16.000 There's this big push.

00:22:17.000 She's saying that obesity is actually a genetic disease, not tied, quote, to food or lifestyle.

00:22:23.000 They're literally arguing that at Harvard.

00:22:26.000 And when pushed, she said she does not know why there's a crisis of childhood obesity.

00:22:32.000 And it's, quote, complicated. This is not complicated.

00:22:35.000 We are being poisoned from a rigged food system and the medical system is profiting.

00:22:40.000 That is disgusting that the Food and Drug Administration agency, the FDA, that they regulate both Big Pharma and

00:22:48.000 they regulate Big Food.

00:22:49.000 And they take 45 percent of their funding from the pharmaceutical industry.

00:22:52.000 And we can see now how what you correctly adjudicate to be a process of delicious poisoning through sugary, fatty,

00:23:01.000 salty processed foods is a win win for them.

00:23:05.000 I get the sort of ...symbol, the metaphor, talking to you Callie, that the agricultural models that meant that we were able to detach ourselves from nature, plus industrialization and our corrupt systems, has meant that the food that we are fed are the most profitable foods.

00:23:23.000 Not the most nutritious foods.

00:23:24.000 That was bad enough when it was carbohydrate-based diets, you know, peasants in whatever country eating potatoes or pasta or rice or bread, whatever was the appropriate food for peasants in that time.

00:23:35.000 But now, the appropriate food is poison.

00:23:38.000 I see us as if we were latched with tubes, siphoning off our energy, pumping poisons into us, but we're like blobs of commodity now.

00:23:47.000 And that when you say that our finest educational and academic institutions have been co-opted, that there is no credibility that is normal for a top Harvard professional to be so apparently credulous about how Childhood obesity could increase when sugar and fat are increasing in diets.

00:24:04.000 And when there is so much money spent on lobbying by the food industry.

00:24:08.000 So, mate, what was your personal epiphany?

00:24:11.000 When did you realise that you were working in a deeply corrupted industry?

00:24:15.000 And what can we do now, systemically and individually?

00:24:20.000 So my sister was the pride of the family.

00:24:23.000 We both went to Stanford.

00:24:24.000 She was much smarter than me.

00:24:25.000 She was president of her undergrad class, was top of her class at Stanford Med School, and then was an elite surgeon.

00:24:31.000 And she, you know, after training for 13 years, had an out-of-body experience where she was doing her third surgery of the day, looking down at a patient, and they had inflammation.

00:24:41.000 She was doing a sinusitis, cutting out their sinus. 1.00

00:24:44.000 And she did not know why that person had inflammation.

00:24:48.000 She was only trained in medical school how to cut that out, how to prescribe a drug. 0.96

00:24:52.000 And what she realized is that Stanford Med School, Harvard Med School, all the elite med schools in the United States, 80% in total, do not teach one nutrition class to doctors.

00:25:01.000 And then when you trace the money, more than 50% of medical school funding touches pharma.

00:25:05.000 Doctors spend almost every moment in medical school learning pharmacology.

00:25:09.000 They actually do not have any awe, as you talk about, Russell, or understanding or curiosity about the interconnectivity of our body and the miraculousness of life.

00:25:19.000 They stand, you know, our medical system is incentivized to stand and wait for people to get sick.

00:25:24.000 She quit and has been on a warpath.

00:25:27.000 Her name is Dr. Casey Means and has inspired me a lot.

00:25:30.000 And then that ties recently to our beloved, our best friend, our mom, A dying of pancreatic cancer.

00:25:37.000 She got that diagnosis in 2021, died 13 days later, was perfectly healthy.

00:25:42.000 And tying that back, pancreatic cancer is highly tied to metabolic dysfunction to food.

00:25:48.000 You know, cancers, dementia, kidney disease, COVID deaths, all these things when you trace it are actually tied to food.

00:25:54.000 So, Russell, it's really convinced me some of these personal experiences like You know, you did really take it to a spiritual level.

00:26:01.000 Like, we are decimating our human capital when 25% of kids now have pre-diabetes.

00:26:07.000 Diabetes is cellular dysregulation in their brains, throughout their precious bodies.

00:26:13.000 You know, this is the first order issue and I think we're really being just distracted from it and we need to get back to just awe and curiosity about the interconnectivity of what's happening in our body.

00:26:23.000 I think it's the most important issue we face in the world.

00:26:25.000 Yes, I think you're right.

00:26:27.000 I think that what we require are systems that revere our nature and support our nature rather than enhance the evident corruption and mapped-on systems that are built for profit.

00:26:40.000 It's interesting what you say about awe and that lack of curiosity.

00:26:46.000 Of course it seems that when you have a poisoned, bewildered, distracted population, you can profit from their illness, you can profit from every aspect of their life.

00:26:55.000 You profit from fattening them up, you profit from healing them.

00:26:58.000 And obviously a drug where pharmaceutical companies can go to their shareholders and say, this is a drug they have to take for the rest of their lives.

00:27:07.000 That's incredible.

00:27:09.000 Also, it's a problem of inequality, of course, isn't it?

00:27:11.000 Because now, people that are affluent, and I'd have to say I include myself in this, you replicate the kind of diet that you would have if you were living naturally.

00:27:21.000 Like, I recognize that I should be eating organic food, I should probably eat food that's available in the place that I'm at in the season that I'm in.

00:27:32.000 The ordinary conditions of our evolution are now a privilege because we are tied to economic systems and institutions of profit that will not afford us access to nature, even when it comes to sustenance, let alone nutrition.

00:27:49.000 I'm a free market guy, but I think the free market's been totally rigged.

00:27:53.000 I think it's incumbent.

00:27:55.000 I am optimistic because we're calling this out.

00:27:57.000 I do think people are waking up.

00:27:59.000 I want to put one point, though, on this class issue, because I think that debate's really weaponized.

00:28:06.000 I've talked about this on other programs, but working for Koch,

00:28:09.000 one of the first things we did is pay the NAACP and other civil rights groups.

00:28:12.000 And I think that's part of the playbook.

00:28:14.000 It's to racialize and make the debate a class issue.

00:28:17.000 Of course, it was total gaslighting because what was at stake here is that Koch wanted

00:28:21.000 more funding to keep lower income children on Koch, which is giving them diabetes.

00:28:26.000 But I really wanna make this point.

00:28:28.000 If you came down as an alien to earth, to the United States and saw what was going on,

00:28:34.000 80% of adults obese or overweight, metabolic dysfunction, eight of the 10 top killers tied to food,

00:28:39.000 just getting away from our evolution, right?

00:28:42.000 You'd have a clear policy recommendation.

00:28:44.000 Let's really focus on food.

00:28:45.000 Let's focus on teaching kids how to exercise, how to meditate to get control of their mind, how to eat healthy.

00:28:52.000 Anyone, 100% of the time, would say that's the policy recommendation.

00:28:56.000 That's not what we do.

00:28:57.000 We wait for everyone to get sick and then drug them, and it's much more expensive.

00:29:01.000 In the United States, and this is an important point going back to Ozempic, the obesity drug, because the system is so rigged, because pharma spends three times more than any other industry on lobbying, the United States is not even able to negotiate the drug price, even though they're the largest payer.

00:29:15.000 So, Ozympic, you know, prices don't go down when volume goes up.

00:29:18.000 Prices are going up in healthcare and quality is getting worse.

00:29:21.000 So, Ozympic is $2,500 a year.

00:29:23.000 It's not going down.

00:29:24.000 There's a full court press for government subsidization taxpayer funding.

00:29:28.000 It literally, this sounds hyperbolic, but this is the case.

00:29:33.000 If that is prescribed how it's projected, that will be trillions of dollars over the next 10 years.

00:29:37.000 So, again, when we talk about these class, we talk about poor folks not being able to afford the food.

00:29:42.000 Again, you take one-fifth of the amount we're planning to spend on Ozempic, you could buy organic, pure, whole food for every obese child in this country.

00:29:51.000 So I think that economic debate we really need to understand.

00:29:53.000 We have a public policy that waits for people to get sick, which I think is evil.

00:29:57.000 I think you're right.

00:29:58.000 It seems that it should be the path of least resistance, the most obvious, evident and natural solutions.

00:30:06.000 Exercise, eat well, make food affordable for people, create different types of agriculture, take all... I've been thinking increasingly of the fact that the medical industry is so heavily undergirded by the pursuit of profit.

00:30:24.000 Denies and defies the possibility of even science.

00:30:27.000 Science is a subset of profit.

00:30:29.000 When you talk about, you know, the ability of Coca-Cola to influence the Diabetic Association and the Pediatric Association, where's follow the science then?

00:30:37.000 How are we meant to regard the last couple of years if this is the true nature of science?

00:30:43.000 But like, what you were just saying about exercise and, you know, healthy living, that message wasn't even pushed during the pandemic.

00:30:49.000 That wasn't even pushed at a time when it was going to save lives through this pandemic where Covid was apparently going to kill everyone.

00:30:55.000 How is it going to be pushed in normal everyday life outside of a pandemic? 0.99

00:30:58.000 At best it's a myopia, an ineptitude and at worst it's a conspiracy to keep people unhealthy, dumb and addicted. 0.89

00:31:05.000 Yeah, I mean, being in the room, I can say that, you know, there are some evil people, but I think most people, you know, they can go to sleep at night, right? 0.98

00:31:13.000 They're trying to get kids cheap calories. 0.99

00:31:15.000 They're developing, you know, drugs.

00:31:17.000 They're treating patients.

00:31:19.000 The beauty of the system, in a way, is that everyone has plausible deniability, but nobody's taking responsibility for the fact that everyone is getting sick.

00:31:27.000 I mean, you make an interesting point, Russell.

00:31:30.000 The patients in this country, both with COVID and really just the chronic disease crisis in general, which I link COVID to, you know, metabolic conditions, people dying from, they're being battered over the head to trust the science.

00:31:41.000 They're being battered over the head to trust the experts.

00:31:43.000 They're being battered over the head, you know, to not ask questions in the face of violence happening over the past 50 years.

00:31:50.000 What's happened in the past 50 years is we're getting sicker, fatter, more depressed, more infertile.

00:31:55.000 Male sperm count's down 50%.

00:31:57.000 Female infertility's skyrocketing. 1.00

00:32:00.000 25% of women have PCOS.

00:32:02.000 Diabetes, all these other conditions, autoimmune conditions, allergies, it's all happening, Russell, at the same time.

00:32:08.000 And we're being told to trust the science.

00:32:10.000 We're the only animal, Russell, humans, We're born with an innate understanding of what's right for our body.

00:32:20.000 A child born, you know, goes to natural food, right?

00:32:23.000 Goes to want to be outside in the sun, right?

00:32:26.000 We totally rob, systematically, people of that awe and that innate ability to know what's best for us.

00:32:33.000 And I think it's one of the biggest problems in the world.

00:32:35.000 Callie, thank you very much for describing the breadth, depth and extent of this problem.

00:32:41.000 When you hear that sperm counts are doubling, we, Gareth, are going to have to work twice as hard.

00:32:46.000 We're going to have to up our sperm manufacturing. 1.00

00:32:49.000 We're going to take it to the next level.

00:32:50.000 Callie, there's so much to talk about with you.

00:32:52.000 We'd love to have you come back on the show and do an entire episode with us.

00:32:55.000 And I'd love to invite you in mid-July to join us for Community.

00:32:59.000 I'd love for you to come and lecture.

00:33:01.000 We do a live event with Vandana Shiva, Wim Hof, where we talk about Different systems of health, different systems of politics, different systems of self-government, and indeed democracy, awareness and awakeness.

00:33:12.000 You can attend that ceremony.

00:33:13.000 Wow.

00:33:13.000 It'll be a ceremony.

00:33:14.000 It's happening live!

00:33:18.000 Oh no, that was Freudian.

00:33:21.000 You can join us at that new cathedral cult, I mean festival!

00:33:25.000 But yeah, I'd love you to come and lecture there, and your sister as well.

00:33:29.000 So we'll talk about that offline, mate.

00:33:31.000 Thank you.

00:33:31.000 You can find more out about Kali at TrueMed.com.

00:33:34.000 Follow him on Twitter, at Kali Means.

00:33:36.000 We'll be talking to him further.

00:33:37.000 He's absolutely fantastic.

00:33:39.000 Please join me tomorrow, not for more of the same, oh no, but for more of the different.

00:33:44.000 Until then, stay free.

Stay Free - Russel Brand - February 11, 2023

Calley Means (They’re Making Us Sick!)

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