Stay Free - Russel Brand - March 30, 2023


Chris Best (Defending Independent Journalism)


Episode Stats

Length

29 minutes

Words per Minute

195.0

Word Count

5,811

Sentence Count

520

Misogynist Sentences

12

Hate Speech Sentences

5


Summary

On the 100th episode of Stay Free With Russell Brand, we celebrate a century of the show by celebrating the passing of a great man. We're joined by Chris Best, co-founder of Substack, to talk about the dangers of Big Pharma's monopoly grip on the media and the need for free speech. Plus, we take a deep dive into the TikTok hearing and ask, and indeed answer, the question: what exactly is this hearing about, and why is it so important that it should be broadcast on mainstream media outlets? And, of course, we talk about vaccines and cancer. Stay Free with Russell Brand is available on all good podcasting platforms, including Apple Podcasts, Podchaser, and Stitcher, wherever you get your favourite podchips. If you're watching this on YouTube, the whole show will be available on Rumble, where you can watch the whole thing for free. Join us over there for the first part of this episode for free, where we'll be talking about the vaccine crisis in America, and how Big Pharma should pay for your vaccines. Stay Free! Stay free! Subscribe to stay free on Stitcher and leave us a star rating and review on iTunes, where more tips, tricks, and tips are available for you to help keep us on the road to freedom. Stay free and keep spreading the word about this podcast. . Thank you for listening, you're awesome! - Your continued support is so appreciated, we really appreciate it. - thank you, thank you so much, stay free, and thank you for being loud and clear, and stay free. XOXO, your support is much appreciated! - stay free! - Eternally, always free, always, forever, always grateful, always safe, always brave, always beautiful, always caring, always Thank you, your wholeheartedly, always thinking, always on the journey, always listening, always - xoxo - - your support, your continued support will be appreciated, always your feedback is so much more than you can do, you'll be heard, always in the coming days, you can have it, you know that you're beautiful, you get it? - MRS. xo - P. - P.S. - A.B. - Thank you. - E. - PRAISE ME, KEVIN M. BECAUSE THAT'S THE BEST!


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello there, you Awakening Wonders!
00:00:01.000 Thank you for joining me for Stay Free with Russell Brand episode 101.
00:00:08.000 We couldn't celebrate the 100th episode because it was a terrible national tragedy in your country, America.
00:00:13.000 Today, on show 101, we are celebrating having done this a century of times.
00:00:17.000 If you're watching this on YouTube, the whole show will be available on Rumble.
00:00:21.000 We're going to give you this first part for free.
00:00:24.000 To let you know what free speech sounds like, baby, but we can only give you an inkling, we can only give you a tickle, the full thing will be over exclusively on Rumble and what a crescendo it promises to be.
00:00:34.000 We're going to be talking to Chris Best, the co-founder of Substack, an online media organisation that hosts many so-called journalists like Matt Taibbi and Michael Schellenberger, many friends of the show.
00:00:46.000 I suppose we're going to talk to him about independent journalism and how because of Substack, counter-narratives that centralised authority would prefer to suppress Get out there into the world.
00:00:55.000 Written version of Rumble, in a way.
00:00:57.000 Written Rumble.
00:00:58.000 Written Rumble.
00:00:59.000 They write Rumble.
00:01:00.000 That's what they do over there on Substack.
00:01:00.000 They write it.
00:01:02.000 So we're excited to talk to Chris Best about that.
00:01:04.000 And I suppose the success of Substack demonstrates your appetite, your ongoing appetite for truth in a climate of fiction and falsehood.
00:01:13.000 We do a deep dive into the TikTok hearing and ask, and indeed answer, because it's a rhetorical device, What exactly is this Congressional hearing about when so many of the accusations levelled at TikTok could equally be levelled at US-based social media companies where there is obvious deep state infiltration?
00:01:33.000 One of the things that Matt Taibbi and Barry Weiss and Michael Schellenberger's revelations showed us.
00:01:40.000 When we click over to being exclusively available on Rumble, we'll be talking about You know it's it's I mean it's plain it's often it's obvious and frequently we cover this subject because it's still something that's censored because it's become a pivotal and revelatory cathartic moment we're going to be talking about vaccine injury compensation cases in my country the UK we can't talk about it on YouTube and I think we should be able to it's been reported elsewhere in mainstream media and what
00:02:10.000 infuriates me about this.
00:02:12.000 And I'm going to use the word infuriate.
00:02:13.000 This is show 101.
00:02:14.000 I'm off the hook.
00:02:15.000 Oh, wow.
00:02:16.000 That's right.
00:02:17.000 If you're watching this on YouTube, get ready because like this, I'm really going to express myself.
00:02:21.000 Like this is what bothers me about that entire period of the pandemic.
00:02:25.000 And in particular, the suggested medical solutions.
00:02:28.000 We paid for the development of those products.
00:02:32.000 You overpay to buy it from Big Pharma.
00:02:35.000 Moderna currently charging a 4,000% increase.
00:02:40.000 A drug that they could sell for like $2.65, they're selling for hundreds of dollars.
00:02:43.000 It's just ridiculous.
00:02:46.000 And then when it all goes wrong and there are vaccine injuries, allegedly, it's still on YouTube, you pay for the compensation.
00:02:54.000 That's out of control.
00:02:55.000 Let me know in the chat and the comments, particularly if you're a member of our Locals community, where you have the opportunity to directly communicate with us.
00:03:01.000 We, on Stay Free, we're on there with you.
00:03:03.000 So post us questions.
00:03:04.000 All the questions will get to me.
00:03:06.000 You'll be able to talk to us directly.
00:03:07.000 You'll see our little Stay Free avatar on there.
00:03:09.000 We're chatting away to you on Locals.
00:03:10.000 Join us.
00:03:11.000 Join us over there.
00:03:13.000 Well, it's business as usual.
00:03:16.000 It's as if Joe Biden don't know that we're celebrating Show 101, because the adorable devil he is, he's dithering about the great Vivified cadaver from place to place, all bewildered and delirious.
00:03:28.000 And so are you at the point now, Joe Biden, that even if you're appalled in particular by his recent sanctimonious grandstanding around Big Pharma, the new bill that doesn't do enough to cap Big Pharma prices is super diluted?
00:03:43.000 We'll be talking about that in more depth over the course of the coming days.
00:03:48.000 Even evoking the phantom of his father to say, you know, like, I know what it's like
00:03:52.000 to worry about a family member getting cancer, when there is a piece of legislation already
00:03:56.000 in place that would mean that they could prevent people profiting from cancer drugs by rescinding
00:04:03.000 their patents and ensuring that there would be, well, actually capitalism, free market
00:04:07.000 capitalism, and those drugs could be made at competitive prices.
00:04:11.000 Capitalism in development, capitalism in the profits, very, very interesting modality.
00:04:15.000 Nevertheless, I...
00:04:17.000 I, as a compassionate person on a path of individual awakening, on a journey like you, just a fallible, flawed person like you, not as bad as Gareth, worse than some people, adorable Dan on DanCam, he's a person that's on the path as well, I, on some level, I still feel sad.
00:04:33.000 about Joe Biden it's gone beyond the just condemnation of him you know because I feel like it ain't right dragging him around like this anymore like when you see him on some sort of like construction site.
00:04:44.000 Also I think like we're aware of like what Biden used to be whether you agreed with his politics or not like the earlier versions of Biden in Congress and he had such a kind of demeanor about him it was actually pretty impressive.
00:04:55.000 I'd say he was like an erection with a comb over.
00:04:57.000 Can I say that?
00:04:58.000 Is that okay?
00:04:59.000 I guess... An erection with a comb over.
00:05:00.000 Maybe.
00:05:01.000 That's what it was like.
00:05:01.000 You'd see him in Congress.
00:05:02.000 He was sort of like... He was like... Billy Big... Billy Big Bollocks!
00:05:06.000 Wasn't he?
00:05:09.000 He was hot for Trump, though, wasn't he?
00:05:10.000 He was, he was indeed.
00:05:11.000 Wasn't he, Joe Biden?
00:05:12.000 He had some oomph.
00:05:13.000 He certainly did.
00:05:14.000 I'll see where Hunter gets him from.
00:05:15.000 Gets what from?
00:05:17.000 He had some lead in his pencil.
00:05:18.000 Oh, I see.
00:05:19.000 Didn't he?
00:05:22.000 Joe Biden, back in the day.
00:05:23.000 I mean, you know, don't mind if I do.
00:05:29.000 Anyway, listen, you can talk.
00:05:30.000 You're the one that dreamt of Joe Biden, ain't ya?
00:05:32.000 Tell us about... Martin Luther King had a dream.
00:05:32.000 I did, yeah.
00:05:35.000 It was a dream that we'd all learn to get beyond our cultural differences and fight against centralised power, build a better world for the oppressed minorities, recognising that ultimately we all have the same interest, to rise up and confront centralised authority.
00:05:48.000 Gareth had a dream.
00:05:49.000 It was that he was looking after Joe Biden in an old folks home.
00:05:52.000 Did you wash his bottom?
00:05:55.000 No, I didn't.
00:05:56.000 What happened in the dream?
00:05:57.000 No, I don't think we're in the focus.
00:05:58.000 I think because I saw this clip last night when we were Twitter scrolling, as we do around here, and I think it just got into my head.
00:06:05.000 And then I had this dream where Joe Biden was a bit like his ear and he was sat next to me and he leaned on me and he put his head on my shoulder.
00:06:13.000 And I turned to my right and Jill Biden was there.
00:06:17.000 Of course she's there.
00:06:18.000 She's always in a six yard.
00:06:20.000 It's like in London.
00:06:21.000 You're never more than six yards from a rat.
00:06:24.000 You're never more than six yards from Jill Biden.
00:06:27.000 Have a look around you now.
00:06:27.000 She'll be there somewhere.
00:06:29.000 Anyway, like I just remember in my head thinking, surely I've got to say to Jill, it would be so bad if Joe ran again, wouldn't it?
00:06:36.000 Don't make him run.
00:06:37.000 And I never got to voice that to Jill.
00:06:39.000 I don't know.
00:06:40.000 I woke up before it happened.
00:06:41.000 Let us know what you think Gareth's unconscious mind is wrestling with in that dream.
00:06:45.000 And also let us know if we should be getting one of those blue ticks on Twitter.
00:06:49.000 Maybe I am the personification of the Democrat Party.
00:06:52.000 Is that what you are?
00:06:53.000 Because apparently they don't... You're its lost ideals.
00:06:55.000 They don't want him to run, but no one's going to tell him.
00:06:57.000 But I'm an emerging independent!
00:06:58.000 Am I that?
00:06:59.000 What unconscious forces... Well, I didn't dream about you, so I don't know.
00:07:02.000 Why aren't I in a dream?
00:07:03.000 What archetypal forces are being expressed through us?
00:07:06.000 What diffuse, divergent, powerful energies are embodied temporarily in human form?
00:07:11.000 These are all questions we'll answer over the course of the show, as well as, shall we get blue ticks on Twitter?
00:07:16.000 Well, there's a poll.
00:07:16.000 Do you want to get a blue tick on Twitter?
00:07:17.000 Is it worth it?
00:07:18.000 10 quid a month, is it?
00:07:20.000 I don't know.
00:07:21.000 We'll let the public decide.
00:07:22.000 You decide.
00:07:22.000 Let us know in the chat and the comments.
00:07:24.000 Join us over on Rumble in a minute when we start talking about vaccine injuries.
00:07:27.000 Before that, though, we've got a lot to talk about.
00:07:29.000 We're talking about gangster globalism, how we've forgotten now that there's a lot of ongoing international racketeering happening, whether it's Bloody the Shakedown The TikTok are experiencing because ultimately all the things that are coming up in the congressional hearing could be leveled at American social media organizations.
00:07:49.000 It's racketeering, I tells you.
00:07:51.000 Also, Matt Taibbi, he's going to be on the show soon.
00:07:55.000 Matt Taibbi is like all of a sudden a subject to an IRS investigation.
00:07:58.000 It's just weird that these things are happening.
00:08:01.000 It's gangster globalism.
00:08:02.000 That's what I call it.
00:08:04.000 It's got to be intimidating.
00:08:05.000 It's not a coincidence, is it, that he goes to Congress and then on the same day someone from the IRS turns up at his door and leaves a note on his door.
00:08:12.000 That's apparently what happened.
00:08:13.000 I mean, that is gangster, isn't it?
00:08:15.000 That's creepy.
00:08:16.000 They could have put a poo through his letterbox.
00:08:18.000 Yes, they didn't do that.
00:08:19.000 That's their version of it, the IRS.
00:08:21.000 The IRS say that we don't do that.
00:08:22.000 That's unhygienic and it's just not tax efficient.
00:08:25.000 But what we do is a simple note on the door.
00:08:27.000 Let's have a look at Joe Biden being gingerly read around a construction site with an ongoing commentary that's required to ensure he doesn't misplace a single Tootsie and end up in one of Gareth's sweet little dreams.
00:08:40.000 Check it out.
00:08:42.000 Down here?
00:08:43.000 Down the ramp.
00:08:43.000 Yes, sir.
00:08:46.000 And we have people lined up on the left over here.
00:08:49.000 some union leaders and working with them.
00:08:51.000 But the director's commentary of that visit.
00:08:55.000 Yeah. Also, like, we've got some people lined up here.
00:08:57.000 He should be able to work that out, shouldn't he?
00:08:59.000 I think that guy's just gone into the rhythm of explaining everything.
00:09:02.000 Do you imagine that?
00:09:03.000 I don't want to speculate as to Joe Biden's conjugal activities,
00:09:08.000 presumably with Jill Biden, but do you reckon there's a running commentary there?
00:09:11.000 Do you reckon there's ongoing?
00:09:13.000 That's it, Joe.
00:09:15.000 That's his private life!
00:09:17.000 Exactly.
00:09:17.000 We're not interested in people's private business, are we?
00:09:20.000 Are we?
00:09:21.000 But we don't gratify that.
00:09:23.000 We're trying to elevate ourselves onto a higher plane.
00:09:26.000 We're trying to find a divinity in all people.
00:09:28.000 Even corrupt people that are avatars of state corruption.
00:09:32.000 Even them, we try to look upon with deep, deep love.
00:09:35.000 Should we have a look at, no let's just see the rest of it because I like this.
00:09:38.000 Thomas Beard on the chat saying uh Kama Sutra for the elderly. Oh saucy.
00:09:50.000 Your mark is going to be the blue one to the left.
00:09:52.000 How y'all doing?
00:09:53.000 He's not listening, is he?
00:09:56.000 He's not listening to instructions.
00:09:57.000 He's just been told his mark's going to be the one on the left and he's just gone into how y'all doing.
00:10:03.000 You've got a blue mark and that's okay.
00:10:05.000 I'll say my blue mark and then I'm going to say low D20.
00:10:09.000 Joe Biden get a blue tick on Twitter.
00:10:10.000 I can imagine they will.
00:10:13.000 I guess the thing with this is just that there's nothing actually extraordinary that occurs here.
00:10:18.000 I guess what's got to people is that this president who is in charge of essentially whether or not we go to World War Three or not, has to be guided around in this manner.
00:10:29.000 Told that your mark's there, told that some people are over there that you need to talk to.
00:10:32.000 It seems too much manhandling for someone who's with that amount of power.
00:10:36.000 Keep gloving.
00:10:37.000 Right.
00:10:38.000 Stay free with Russell Brand.
00:10:40.000 See it first on Rumble.
00:10:42.000 Illuminated Soul, enjoying our content.
00:10:45.000 Look at this, a Einstein University drug company using lawless, unregulated... Oh, the comments are coming thick and fast.
00:10:53.000 I want to focus on the people analysing Gareth's dreams, like Tamara Spencer.
00:10:57.000 Gareth's dream could be expressing his feelings about Biden running again, and that no one seems interested in talking about if that's what's best for him.
00:11:04.000 At his age, I'd want to be enjoying my retirement.
00:11:07.000 Also, Gareth might fancy Joe Biden.
00:11:10.000 You added that bit, didn't you?
00:11:10.000 Is that what it is?
00:11:11.000 How do you even know and how can you prove it?
00:11:13.000 What are you going to do, haul me up before a congressional hearing?
00:11:16.000 I just might.
00:11:17.000 Get Rand Paul to question me, like look at me over his glasses, like that?
00:11:21.000 Is that what you're going to do?
00:11:22.000 I'm going to get that Debbie Wasserman Smith.
00:11:24.000 You wouldn't get a word in edgeways.
00:11:26.000 That's my time!
00:11:27.000 For a change.
00:11:28.000 This is my... Let's get Debbie Wasserman Smith.
00:11:32.000 Schultz Smith.
00:11:32.000 Schultz.
00:11:33.000 She'd be really annoyed that you didn't remember her name, I tell you that.
00:11:36.000 Oh, gosh, she would.
00:11:37.000 We've been asking you as well whether or not you thought I should get a blue tick, you know, on Twitter.
00:11:42.000 Yes, is the answer.
00:11:44.000 As a player.
00:11:44.000 We'll get one then.
00:11:45.000 Democracy is as simple as that.
00:11:47.000 You tell us what to do and we do it, whether we agree with you or not, because we trust your judgment.
00:11:53.000 We'll persuade you as best we can, but then we'll hand over to democracy, trusting independent journalism, free and independent voices to guide us.
00:12:01.000 How excited we are on that basis to be talking right now to Chris Best, the CEO and co-founder of Substack.
00:12:09.000 Chris, thanks so much for joining us today.
00:12:11.000 We're very grateful.
00:12:13.000 Thank you for having me.
00:12:14.000 Are you at Substack now?
00:12:17.000 Yes.
00:12:18.000 It's the place?
00:12:20.000 It's a building.
00:12:20.000 It's a place.
00:12:21.000 It's in San Francisco.
00:12:22.000 It's a rainy day.
00:12:23.000 You're doing well, aren't you, over old Substack?
00:12:26.000 And I've got a few questions.
00:12:27.000 These have been sent to me by Debbie Wasserman Schultz.
00:12:30.000 How much money have you got now compared to when you were a little boy?
00:12:34.000 You're rich, aren't you?
00:12:36.000 How many people are using Substack, whatever the hell that is?
00:12:39.000 What did you think about that congressional hearing, Chris?
00:12:43.000 The TikTok one or the one where they were asking Matt Taibbi about what Substack is?
00:12:47.000 They were both quite funny.
00:12:48.000 Matt Taibbi first, but you can do whatever you want while you're here.
00:12:53.000 Yeah, we love the one where they were asking, is it a website?
00:12:55.000 Is it a Substack?
00:12:56.000 What is that thing?
00:12:57.000 We had a good laugh about that.
00:12:59.000 It was all right, wasn't it?
00:13:00.000 The very fact that they don't know.
00:13:02.000 I mean, that is very telling, isn't it?
00:13:05.000 They're doing a hearing, a congressional hearing.
00:13:07.000 They don't know what Substack is.
00:13:09.000 We're talking to Matt.
00:13:09.000 He's coming on tomorrow.
00:13:11.000 And I know that what he feels is like the whole tone of it.
00:13:15.000 It was like really aggressive and condemnatory.
00:13:17.000 It wasn't an investigation.
00:13:18.000 Like they were smearing him and slandering him live.
00:13:22.000 It was appalling really.
00:13:24.000 I suppose that Substack is to a degree about protecting independent voices.
00:13:28.000 You've got Tybee on there, Seymour Hersh the Pulitzer Prize winner, Alex Berenson.
00:13:33.000 What stories are you most proud of?
00:13:35.000 Some of the Twitter file stuff that actually Matt Tybee shouldn't have put on there.
00:13:38.000 You got in trouble for that.
00:13:39.000 No, that was Berenson.
00:13:40.000 Was that Berenson?
00:13:41.000 Berenson!
00:13:42.000 Or the Nord Stream Pipeline story that old Seymour Hersh, who loves us, he uses our content, Seymour Hersh does, he came on here, he loves our, he watched some of our videos, didn't he, Gal?
00:13:51.000 Didn't he?
00:13:52.000 He did, he liked the Condoleezza Rice video.
00:13:54.000 He sat there like the dad in Frasier, having it like, sort of going, Hey you, what you wearing that hat for, you son of a bitch?
00:14:00.000 And then by the end of it, he loved us.
00:14:02.000 So tell us what stuff you're most proud of, Chris.
00:14:06.000 I'm proud of the work that people get to do on the platform.
00:14:09.000 We don't get to take any credit for it, right?
00:14:11.000 We don't get to take the credit for Seymour Hersh breaking world-changing stories.
00:14:15.000 We don't get to take the credit for Barry Weiss building a new media institution in the free press.
00:14:20.000 She's covering everything from J.K.
00:14:22.000 Rowling to, you know, she did an interview with Benjamin Netanyahu.
00:14:26.000 It's just crazy sort of world-changing stuff.
00:14:29.000 And it's very diverse, right?
00:14:31.000 You get Matt Iglesias, who writes Slow Boring, who's sort of like center-left establishment on the spectrum.
00:14:37.000 You know, he's exactly in the mainstream politically, but he's challenging the orthodoxies.
00:14:43.000 He's coming out early against Defund the Police, all this stuff.
00:14:46.000 You get people saying what they believe on Substack, and I think that matters.
00:14:50.000 I suppose, yeah, we've often said that one of the indicators of the kind of cultural shifts we've experienced is that journalists like Chris Hedges used to be at the New York Times, and indeed Seymour Hersh, and now they are migrating to these kind of spaces as centralised authoritarian institutions increasingly censor and smear dissenting voices.
00:15:09.000 I suppose organisations like ours, Rumble, and like yours, Substack, are gonna, we're gonna have to form alliances of some kind, aren't we?
00:15:19.000 I think this is the right answer.
00:15:20.000 I mean, you talk a lot about the government stepping in and regulating everyone.
00:15:23.000 I say build something better.
00:15:24.000 That's what we can do.
00:15:26.000 Build something better.
00:15:27.000 It's a bit like build back better.
00:15:29.000 It's a bit like build a bird group.
00:15:30.000 It's a bit like build a bear, but it's actually cool.
00:15:34.000 Build something better.
00:15:35.000 Yeah.
00:15:36.000 A lot of people, in fact, Daniel Pinchbeck, who writes on Substack, he always cites, I think it's like Buckminster Fuller.
00:15:42.000 Who said, like, you shouldn't compete with the atrophying institutions.
00:15:47.000 Simply build new systems and people will migrate organically to them, as is hopefully happening.
00:15:53.000 Although, sort of, centralised authority will continually condemn them.
00:15:56.000 That's what tends to happen, isn't it, Gareth?
00:15:58.000 I mean, I just had a quick thought when you were talking about that.
00:15:58.000 Yeah, I guess it is.
00:16:00.000 Was it about Joe Biden kissing him?
00:16:02.000 It wasn't that.
00:16:03.000 Him wearing a baby's bonnet and sitting on your lap.
00:16:05.000 Gareth's been dreaming about Joe Biden, but he's also a journalist and he's got some questions.
00:16:09.000 Well, no, I wouldn't claim to be at all.
00:16:10.000 But I was just wondering, like, do those hearings make you in any way worry about the power of those hearings and Congress and government in its ability to potentially censor Substat, in its potential to Make a difference to your business platform and all of that.
00:16:28.000 Does it worry you in any way?
00:16:30.000 This is my favorite joke about that, them not knowing Substack on Twitter.
00:16:34.000 Somebody said, just give them two years and they'll be trying to ban it.
00:16:37.000 And I think that's true.
00:16:38.000 I mean, I think you get these moral panics where people freak out about whatever the cause du jour is.
00:16:43.000 And the answer is always the same.
00:16:45.000 The answer is always, we need more power.
00:16:47.000 We need to, you know, have the right to regulate and control these things.
00:16:51.000 And I think we have to have a robust idea of free speech and a free press as like a default norm to protect against that.
00:17:00.000 What kind of regulation do you have that would be considered sensible?
00:17:04.000 For even like, you know, Rumble, they do have like guidelines.
00:17:07.000 Don't be racist.
00:17:08.000 Don't commit crime.
00:17:09.000 No hate speech.
00:17:10.000 Don't be anti-semitic, which is just a form of racism.
00:17:13.000 You know, like there is regulation.
00:17:15.000 This is a free speech platform.
00:17:16.000 And we use that free speech, of course, to attack centralized authority.
00:17:20.000 And to provide counter-narratives where necessary, support great journalism, for many of the people that are on your platform, what kind of things, what kind of guidelines do you have so people know that Substack's not just some sort of Wild West gangnam lunatic hole?
00:17:36.000 Wild West Gangland Lunatic Hole.
00:17:39.000 We should make that our new tagline.
00:17:40.000 I mean, we have rules too.
00:17:42.000 We have a content policy.
00:17:43.000 We don't allow spam.
00:17:44.000 We don't allow porn.
00:17:45.000 We don't allow illegal things.
00:17:48.000 But I think the central ethos of Substack is that the writers and the readers need to be in charge.
00:17:53.000 You're deciding who you want to follow.
00:17:55.000 You're deciding who you want to trust.
00:17:56.000 People should choose their own heroes.
00:17:58.000 And we trust people to make those decisions.
00:18:01.000 We think people should make those decisions by their own lights.
00:18:03.000 And if they make them as their best selves, then we're happy.
00:18:07.000 Hey, you know those trusted flaggers?
00:18:11.000 Matt Taibbi's talking about them.
00:18:12.000 Trusted flaggers, do you know about them?
00:18:14.000 They're going to be trusted to flag stuff.
00:18:16.000 Don't be alarmed by trusted flaggers.
00:18:19.000 They're trusted after all.
00:18:21.000 But I think that these trusted...
00:18:24.000 Yeah, that's right.
00:18:25.000 They're only flagging things.
00:18:26.000 It's not like some untrusted flagger.
00:18:28.000 God knows where they'd stick that flagpole.
00:18:31.000 I suppose that ultimately that's the kind of creep that might lead to regulation and censorship of platforms like ours, because we've actually saw an article about how the EU do have plans to regulate online spaces like Rumble, and I imagine that will ultimately affect Substack.
00:18:47.000 So I guess we're going to need to form alliances, aren't we, to fight against trusted flaggers?
00:18:53.000 Yeah, I think it's not a new thing.
00:18:54.000 I mean, this has always been, you know, the idea of a free press, free speech has always been under assault.
00:18:59.000 Each new generation gets to fight this battle again, learn it the hard way.
00:19:03.000 It's our time.
00:19:04.000 You know, it's exciting.
00:19:06.000 Thank you, Chris Best, for joining us on the show.
00:19:09.000 Chris Best is the CEO of Substack.
00:19:12.000 You can go to Substack whenever you want.
00:19:15.000 Unless you're a Congress person carrying out an investigation, you probably know that already.
00:19:21.000 Chris, thanks for joining us, mate.
00:19:23.000 Thank you for having me.
00:19:24.000 Lovely to meet you.
00:19:25.000 You look right handsome.
00:19:27.000 Hey, we've got Matt Taibbi coming up on the show tomorrow.
00:19:30.000 He gets called a journalist in some spaces, but he's a tax criminal and a pervert.
00:19:36.000 He didn't know how to respond to you calling him handsome.
00:19:39.000 Yeah, I know.
00:19:39.000 Sometimes I say that to people.
00:19:41.000 Like, fry them off guard, right at the end of a chat.
00:19:43.000 What's wrong with that?
00:19:44.000 To tell people they're handsome.
00:19:45.000 I think it's fine, but he had no comeback for that.
00:19:48.000 He doesn't need a comeback.
00:19:49.000 You embarrassed poor Chris.
00:19:51.000 I didn't.
00:19:51.000 It's not like I went, Chris.
00:19:53.000 Chris best.
00:19:54.000 Best in show.
00:19:56.000 Chris best.
00:19:56.000 Kissy, kissy.
00:19:58.000 I'd like to stack you on my sub, you son of a gun!
00:20:01.000 Right, well, you just have done that.
00:20:03.000 That was hypothetical.
00:20:05.000 No, it certainly was.
00:20:05.000 Wasn't it?
00:20:06.000 It wasn't a real thing that actually happened in reality.
00:20:08.000 You wouldn't write that on Substack, would you?
00:20:11.000 I'm joined Substack right now.
00:20:11.000 Would I?
00:20:13.000 I have my own account and I'll use it simply to write fan fiction about Chris Best.
00:20:18.000 Chris and I were meeting at the office in front of that plant, that beautifully kept money plant in the background.
00:20:24.000 How are we going to water it today, Chris Best?
00:20:27.000 What's wrong with that?
00:20:27.000 Oh my word.
00:20:29.000 That's just a man expressing himself.
00:20:31.000 That's one of the lines in the story, actually.
00:20:33.000 Hey!
00:20:34.000 Oh, he's still there!
00:20:37.000 Sorry about that, Chris.
00:20:38.000 We got carried away.
00:20:39.000 I don't know if you know this about me.
00:20:41.000 I'm quite seriously mentally ill and have managed to turn my mental illness into a type of job.
00:20:47.000 Luckily, occasionally, I channel some home truths to those in power, don't I?
00:20:52.000 Certainly do.
00:20:53.000 It's good, but often though I also channel untrue, mad things at Chris Best, an innocent guest.
00:21:00.000 Chris Best, he's just an innocent guest, I've got a few things to get off of my chest, but Chris Best, I've been blessed with a stack and it's under the water, a submarine, smarter than it ought to be, oh baby!
00:21:14.000 Staring at me through those porthole eyes.
00:21:17.000 Look at those octopi, look at those squid.
00:21:20.000 I'll join you for a couple of quid.
00:21:23.000 On Substack, it's unregulated.
00:21:26.000 Substack, it's fan-generated.
00:21:29.000 If you don't subscribe, how can you complain?
00:21:32.000 I don't prescribe anything for pain.
00:21:34.000 I just face that pain with meditation.
00:21:38.000 We're gonna create a brand new nation, a glorious flag.
00:21:47.000 This is show 101.
00:21:57.000 101 in the mind of Orwell was your worst fears.
00:21:59.000 The worst fear that any of us should have is tyranny, endless surveillance, lack of true freedom.
00:22:06.000 But together, We can fight it, baby!
00:22:09.000 We've been fighting it for a hundred shows now, and we're gonna keep fighting it!
00:22:13.000 We will fight till they nail that fucking lid down on me, baby!
00:22:17.000 Have a look at those hundred shows!
00:22:20.000 Actually, you can see that I'm mentally ill.
00:22:23.000 Just from the short sequence, right?
00:22:25.000 We really worked hard on the set, haven't we?
00:22:28.000 Oh, the set's surely at its best.
00:22:30.000 It's good now.
00:22:30.000 Do you like the set best?
00:22:31.000 Tell us in the chat.
00:22:32.000 Do you like it?
00:22:33.000 Let's not change the colour again.
00:22:34.000 I can't go through with it.
00:22:36.000 It's too much pressure.
00:22:37.000 It is, isn't it?
00:22:38.000 New signs.
00:22:39.000 No.
00:22:41.000 Yeah, a lot of us liked it when James O'Keefe came on, did you know that?
00:22:44.000 Is that why you just burst out into song?
00:22:47.000 To challenge old O'Keefe?
00:22:48.000 Was that what it was?
00:22:50.000 That's what it was.
00:22:51.000 Ever since he came in, Project Veritas, James O'Keefe.
00:22:55.000 I'm thinking, if he can be in a musical, why can't I?
00:22:58.000 I want to thank some of the regulars over here.
00:23:00.000 Ash Ella, Alex Overton, Human Fly, Dear Sensitive Heart 25, all of these people that support us.
00:23:07.000 Bonnie Boo.
00:23:08.000 Bonnie Boo, I said, I can't believe how good looking they are.
00:23:11.000 I don't know yet if she means me and you or Joe and Jill Biden.
00:23:16.000 It could be either.
00:23:19.000 Primal Collin says he prefers the blue.
00:23:21.000 Peace Love Light.
00:23:22.000 Wowee!
00:23:23.000 Simply.
00:23:24.000 There's no one commented at all on what just happened before we did that VT then.
00:23:28.000 Encore!
00:23:28.000 $2 tip from Toker Pro.
00:23:31.000 There we go.
00:23:32.000 It's been a great show, Sir Simon Fly.
00:23:33.000 Yeah, let's make him sing the clap, says Ellen Sophia.
00:23:37.000 Jesus Harold Christ, that was amazing, says CRCAE.
00:23:41.000 Yeah, and another people are clapping at that.
00:23:45.000 Someone says, I answer the universe, poor Katie lol.
00:23:48.000 I think she might mean Katy Perry, but like she's surely fully recovered.
00:23:52.000 Ah, CRA, you're a genius.
00:23:53.000 That's good.
00:23:54.000 We need a brand new society nation.
00:23:56.000 Yeah.
00:23:57.000 I know people.
00:23:57.000 Bravo.
00:23:58.000 I'm getting back to that bit now.
00:23:59.000 They're happy about that.
00:24:00.000 They're happy that happened.
00:24:01.000 Yeah.
00:24:02.000 Yeah, they must be right.
00:24:02.000 Are they?
00:24:04.000 Why not?
00:24:04.000 Because that's good to be able to do that.
00:24:06.000 No, I think it's very skillful.
00:24:08.000 It's not bad to be able to do that.
00:24:10.000 No, it was great.
00:24:11.000 I enjoyed it.
00:24:12.000 But it's a type of illness?
00:24:13.000 What type?
00:24:13.000 Yes.
00:24:15.000 Well, you know, the mental type.
00:24:16.000 Manic depression?
00:24:17.000 I don't know, we'll work it out, won't we?
00:24:20.000 But I won't take tablets for it, Gal, I won't.
00:24:22.000 I won't have my light dimmed by the pharmaceutical industry.
00:24:24.000 No, God no.
00:24:25.000 Not again.
00:24:26.000 Not them.
00:24:27.000 No, thank you.
00:24:28.000 We do not trust them.
00:24:30.000 Hey, listen, if you want to join the locals community and be able to comment directly on the sort of things that go on on this show, if you want to come and join us when we do live recordings, see people like Graham Hancock and Vandana Shiva in live conversation, If you want to come and see our community event, we give away free tickets to join us at Community in the middle of July.
00:24:47.000 We'll post all of this information in the chat.
00:24:50.000 Teams, stay free.
00:24:50.000 That's us in the chat.
00:24:52.000 I think it's Lara that's running it, one of the people that works here.
00:24:52.000 That's us.
00:24:55.000 You can just chat to them.
00:24:56.000 If you want meditations for me to do a guided meditation for you, unbelievably, they're quite good.
00:25:01.000 I did one the other week with a woman who was bereaved.
00:25:04.000 Well, she was by the time I finished with her.
00:25:05.000 No, I mean, she was suffering from a bereavement.
00:25:07.000 Sure.
00:25:08.000 She'd lost her husband.
00:25:09.000 She lived in Denmark.
00:25:09.000 She was called Judy.
00:25:10.000 Her husband, Paul, sadly died.
00:25:12.000 She needed a guided meditation.
00:25:13.000 I'm here to help people with their spiritual development.
00:25:16.000 That's what I do.
00:25:16.000 Yeah.
00:25:17.000 You didn't do the song then, did you?
00:25:17.000 I know.
00:25:19.000 Yeah, she said it was inappropriate.
00:25:21.000 She said I ruined her evening with what she called Claptrap.
00:25:26.000 Claptrap.
00:25:27.000 Rhyming Claptrap.
00:25:28.000 Rhyming Claptrap.
00:25:29.000 Come over here, Dan, and do some different shots.
00:25:31.000 Wander about a bit.
00:25:32.000 Express yourself.
00:25:33.000 Look at the... We've got a new camera in here now.
00:25:34.000 It's operated by Dan Camp.
00:25:35.000 Look at that bloody hell.
00:25:37.000 Look at the freedom.
00:25:39.000 Look at me.
00:25:39.000 Hey, how's it going?
00:25:41.000 All right, that's show 101.
00:25:42.000 Nearly done.
00:25:44.000 And the most bizarre show yet, I would offer.
00:25:46.000 Is it?
00:25:46.000 What do you think it is?
00:25:47.000 I reckon it's up there.
00:25:48.000 Why?
00:25:48.000 What's so bizarre about it?
00:25:49.000 It's up there.
00:25:50.000 That bit where I spoke to Substack?
00:25:52.000 Little bit.
00:25:52.000 Oh, I thought I was nice to Substack.
00:25:54.000 No, you were nice.
00:25:55.000 Do you think I was nice to Substack?
00:25:56.000 Couple of questions, give him a compliment, do a weird song, end of show.
00:26:00.000 What do people want for their subscription fee?
00:26:03.000 Mm-mm.
00:26:04.000 Eh?
00:26:05.000 Hey, so I suppose, what's happening now?
00:26:07.000 Go and talk to Matt Taibbi tomorrow, talk to Callie Means the next day.
00:26:11.000 Yep.
00:26:12.000 Go to 12-step meetings.
00:26:13.000 Yes.
00:26:15.000 Deal with things.
00:26:16.000 Just deal with reality, I suppose.
00:26:17.000 Go home.
00:26:18.000 Go home.
00:26:19.000 All right, then.
00:26:20.000 Shall we wrap up the show?
00:26:21.000 Are you enjoying yourself?
00:26:23.000 This person, Thomas Beard, just says Dalmatians.
00:26:25.000 There's no context for that.
00:26:27.000 Oh, Dalmatians.
00:26:27.000 101, 101, 101.
00:26:28.000 I thought he was saying it.
00:26:31.000 He's free to say it if he wants.
00:26:33.000 That's what Rumble's about.
00:26:34.000 You wanted to say Dalmatians out of context?
00:26:37.000 Yeah, Thursday, Matt Taibbi.
00:26:38.000 Free Matt Taibbi.
00:26:39.000 Although he's already free in a way.
00:26:41.000 Why do people keep asking for Liam and Noel Gallagher?
00:26:43.000 Imagine the commission on that reunion, getting Oasis back together.
00:26:47.000 It'd be good, wouldn't it?
00:26:49.000 Why have I got to do it?
00:26:50.000 And can I do it?
00:26:52.000 Although I did think that I could achieve a Middle East peace deal.
00:26:55.000 At one point.
00:26:55.000 If I was trusted to.
00:26:56.000 Someone's just written 101 Dalmatians on the screen.
00:27:00.000 I really feel like, you know when dreams and reality all merge into one thing?
00:27:03.000 That's happening to me now.
00:27:05.000 Dalmatians, 101 Dalmatians.
00:27:07.000 This might be still part of my Joe Biden dream.
00:27:10.000 All of this.
00:27:11.000 If in a dream, and I ask you this at home as well, if in the middle of a dream you were running away from, I don't know, 101 Dalmatians, say, and someone came up to you in the dream, not Cruella de Vil, you're not going to trust her after what she's done, someone came up to you and went, stop running, it's just a dream, it's just a dream, you in the dream would be unable to respond to that.
00:27:28.000 You know, because it becomes an immersive and total reality, even though it's entirely within your own consciousness.
00:27:33.000 Some people believe that that's what we're experiencing now.
00:27:36.000 And in fact, when you think about it, it's more unlikely that this is the deepest and ultimate level of reality.
00:27:42.000 That would be ridiculous.
00:27:44.000 We know already there are things called dreams and then things called reality.
00:27:47.000 The idea that this is the apex and nadir of reality simultaneously is ludicrous.
00:27:53.000 It's plain that there are other dimensions of reality.
00:27:55.000 It's plain that we access them through things like love, solidarity, kindness, these emotions that are difficult to
00:28:00.000 discern and understand.
00:28:01.000 So, um...
00:28:02.000 We're not doing a chat about...
00:28:03.000 Why not?
00:28:04.000 Alternate realities now.
00:28:05.000 Alternate realities!
00:28:07.000 That's what I'm talking about, baby.
00:28:09.000 Yeah, it's sad news about Paul O'Grady, Primal Colin.
00:28:12.000 He's a British entertainer in drag.
00:28:15.000 He played Lily Savage.
00:28:16.000 He was pretty funny.
00:28:17.000 I went on that show a couple of times.
00:28:18.000 He was a pretty beautiful person.
00:28:19.000 It's a shame that he's died.
00:28:22.000 He was a pretty beautiful guy.
00:28:23.000 Yeah, brilliant.
00:28:24.000 He was funny.
00:28:24.000 Yeah, he was well funny.
00:28:25.000 He really was.
00:28:26.000 Scouser and that.
00:28:26.000 Yeah.
00:28:27.000 Let's remember him with love for a moment.
00:28:30.000 All right.
00:28:31.000 So should we wrap up the show then?
00:28:31.000 Let's do that.
00:28:33.000 Thanks for joining us for our 101st show that appropriately had a beautiful sprinkling of insanity throughout it.
00:28:41.000 But remember, we spoke about independent journalism, we talked about government corruption, we talked about propaganda.
00:28:47.000 These are the themes and ideas that define Stay Free.
00:28:51.000 A belief that individually there is a greatness and a glory within us.
00:28:54.000 That if we access the deeply personal, we will find the universal.
00:28:58.000 That from this deep resource within us all, We can form new systems.
00:29:02.000 Perhaps it's true that we should just create our own institutions, our own democracies.
00:29:07.000 Perhaps we should, as one, reject the systems of the state, reject the systems of corporatism and form new nations now.
00:29:17.000 New democracies, new alliances, accepting, tolerant, loving, Yet defiant against corruption.
00:29:23.000 That's just one of the things I've learned over the last hundred episodes.
00:29:27.000 Thank you so much for joining us.
00:29:28.000 Do stay with us.
00:29:29.000 Do join us on this great voyage towards truth and freedom.
00:29:33.000 Join us tomorrow when it's show 102.
00:29:35.000 We can't keep celebrating all of them, can we?
00:29:38.000 There ain't 102 Dalmatians, are there?
00:29:40.000 No.
00:29:41.000 Are there?
00:29:41.000 No, there aren't.
00:29:42.000 I don't think so, if there's no film about them.
00:29:44.000 All right, join us tomorrow, not for more of the same, but for more of the different.
00:29:47.000 Until then, stay free.