Stay Free - Russel Brand - Dave Smith (War, What Is It Good For?)

00:00:00.000 Hello there, you Awakening Wonders.

00:00:01.000 Thanks for joining me for Stay Free with Russell Brand.

00:00:04.000 If you're watching this on Rumble, you can see the whole show.

00:00:06.000 If you're watching it anywhere else, just the first 15 or 20 minutes is accessible till we have to yield to our pangs for free speech and be exclusively available on a platform that champions it.

00:00:18.000 In the news today, the US actively don't want a ceasefire.

00:00:23.000 All we're saying is give war a chance.

00:00:24.000 Does anyone Advocated for war.

00:00:27.000 Couldn't war be the answer? 0.95

00:00:29.000 And then we'll be talking later exclusively on Rumble about... No wonder they don't want to talk about that lab leak theory. 0.98

00:00:34.000 Perhaps because they carried on doing gain-of-function research during the pandemic.

00:00:39.000 Did you know that?

00:00:40.000 Let me know in the chat whether or not you were aware.

00:00:42.000 That during the pandemic, in London, where I live, where I take deep inhalations, where I could easily be infected, they were combining Covid variants.

00:00:52.000 We'll be talking about that in detail exclusively on Rumble in a minute.

00:00:55.000 That's why you should click on the link in the description.

00:00:57.000 Here's the news.

00:00:59.000 No, here's the effing news.

00:01:00.000 We'll be talking about how Tucker Carlson extraordinarily is the only person that openly admits to regretting the way that the war was reported on from a personal perspective, a bit of a mere culper, and is also one of the only mainstream media broadcasters that will house Julian Assange.

00:01:15.000 So even if you see Tucker Carlson At his worst, even if you have a very negative perspective of him, like say, I've heard people say he's racist and that he's unsympathetic towards vulnerable people.

00:01:28.000 How do we square that with, you know, you ain't getting any other mainstream show saying, what are we going to do about Julian Assange?

00:01:34.000 Or maybe I'm wrong.

00:01:35.000 Let me know because I'll watch those shows if there are any.

00:01:38.000 But firstly, Hunter Biden is suing the repair shop owner who worked on his laptop.

00:01:45.000 Accused him of trying to invade his privacy.

00:01:48.000 That's really interesting that that's what Hunter Biden has deduced.

00:01:52.000 Yeah, that's the solution.

00:01:53.000 That's my private laptop on there.

00:01:55.000 What was on there?

00:01:56.000 Just that, I don't know, we were accepting payments from Ukrainian energy firms, Chinese energy firms, some stuff about my private life, which I actually don't... I agree with him there.

00:02:04.000 That's no one else's business.

00:02:05.000 The big guy.

00:02:07.000 The big guy?

00:02:07.000 Who is that big guy?

00:02:08.000 Who knows?

00:02:09.000 And who's this little fella? 0.99

00:02:10.000 There's a whole host of characters on Hunter Biden's laptop and Hunter wants to keep them to himself.

00:02:15.000 Also, how much is he going to sue him for?

00:02:17.000 It's like a guy in a repair shop.

00:02:19.000 It's not like taking on Apple, is it?

00:02:20.000 Mr Biden, please.

00:02:22.000 We're just trying to make ends meet. 0.99

00:02:24.000 How often do people get their fucking laptop repaired? 0.99

00:02:28.000 Excuse my language. 0.99

00:02:29.000 Just generally speaking, people just get another one.

00:02:32.000 Maybe you replace a screen on your iPhone, you go to that place.

00:02:36.000 I know.

00:02:37.000 Could you replace the screen on my iPhone?

00:02:39.000 Yeah, of course.

00:02:40.000 What the hell's this?

00:02:42.000 Nothing!

00:02:42.000 Give that back!

00:02:43.000 I'll see you in court, my man!

00:02:45.000 With the money that he was making, allegedly is it?

00:02:48.000 I don't even think it is, from Burisma and those other companies, that he could have afforded multiple laptops.

00:02:55.000 The real problem here is not the man in the Delaware laptop shop.

00:02:59.000 It's a corrupt political system and it's keeping that story out of the news while it could potentially sway the outcome of an election. 0.99

00:03:07.000 A charge for which Donald Trump, I don't know, we don't know, is he being pursued in a white bronco even now?

00:03:13.000 Is Donald Trump in chains even as we speak?

00:03:15.000 We'll get regular updates on the status of Donald Trump but it is, you know, using campaign funds And how that might pertain to the outcome of an election is what turns it from a misdemeanor into a felony.

00:03:28.000 I'm an investigative journalist.

00:03:29.000 I know you are.

00:03:30.000 And a legal one.

00:03:32.000 I journal on all sorts of subjects.

00:03:33.000 Let's have a look at Hunter Biden.

00:03:35.000 He's saying that he don't have to open his kimono.

00:03:39.000 One thing that I don't have to do is sit here and open my kimono as it relates to how much money I make or make or did or didn't.

00:03:45.000 But it's all been reported.

00:03:46.000 I like the way that he says that.

00:03:48.000 A phrase that we all know.

00:03:49.000 Don't open your kimono.

00:03:52.000 Because the kimono is already only is halfway up the thigh.

00:03:55.000 Yes.

00:03:56.000 It's already alluding to something, isn't it?

00:03:58.000 It's a sexy garment.

00:04:00.000 Like with some of the things on that fella's laptop, the kimono is not the house coat he should have put himself in.

00:04:06.000 He should wear something, a onesie.

00:04:07.000 I don't have to unzip my onesie. 0.96

00:04:10.000 I don't have to flip open that hatch that they have on in cowboy films when they say you varmint and then they jump into their asses on fire for some reason and they get into the horse trough. 0.96

00:04:18.000 That bit? 0.94

00:04:19.000 Thank you, yeah.

00:04:19.000 I kind of know what you mean.

00:04:21.000 And they've got poppers on their ass. 1.00

00:04:22.000 Oh, yes. 1.00

00:04:23.000 You know that.

00:04:25.000 We know also that war is a good thing. 1.00

00:04:29.000 This is a literal Orwellian story where the US are preventing China from brokering a peace deal with Putin.

00:04:39.000 And also, it's not unprecedented because China are actually quite good, it turns out, at brokering peace deals.

00:04:45.000 Here it says, look, the White House says it opposes a ceasefire in Ukraine.

00:04:49.000 Even though Zelensky would be up for it because peace is surely that's the ultimate goal.

00:04:53.000 Peace rather than victory.

00:04:54.000 Victory feels like a real 20th century outcome to a 21st century situation.

00:05:00.000 But look at this.

00:05:01.000 Antony Blinken said the world must not be fooled by China's peace plan.

00:05:07.000 Yeah, you can't trust them or their crazy talk of peace.

00:05:10.000 Do you see now how advocating for peace is being framed as somehow duplicitous and potentially injurious?

00:05:18.000 How can that happen?

00:05:20.000 I was unaware until Gareth mentioned it as a result of his own research that China have precedent for brokering complex peace deals in the Middle East.

00:05:28.000 Not that one, sadly, but this one.

00:05:30.000 Have a listen.

00:05:30.000 Yeah, Saudi Arabia and Iran.

00:05:31.000 This was brokered earlier this month.

00:05:33.000 I actually didn't know they weren't getting on.

00:05:34.000 I've got to pay more attention to the news.

00:05:36.000 for seven years I think it's been going on and China has stepped in.

00:05:40.000 There's an agreement that's been signed in Beijing to re-establish diplomatic

00:05:45.000 relations. So it's not like China, I mean it does seem like they're doing stuff

00:05:49.000 and being effective about it. Of course we're not naive enough just about to

00:05:53.000 just assume that China are benevolent pacifiers traveling around the world 0.97

00:05:57.000 with no intention other than spreading the light of the Lord Buddha and Jesus

00:06:02.000 Christ's twinkling wonder because there'll be more Christians in China 1.00

00:06:05.000 than anywhere else in the world in a couple of years.

00:06:07.000 Did you know that?

00:06:08.000 Of course you didn't, because you've not spent time studying Christianity in the way that I have.

00:06:14.000 Generally speaking, even if China have their own worldview, their own agenda, which undoubtedly they do, if part of that agenda is brokering a peace deal, surely that's something that has to be considered.

00:06:23.000 Let us know in the chat and the comments if you agree with that.

00:06:26.000 The other worrying aspect of this, I suppose, is that if Zelensky has expressed openness to China's proposal, but it's been rejected by President Biden, Who is in charge of Ukraine and who is this war between?

00:06:38.000 I mean, we've said proxy war for a long time, but if it's got to the situation where Zelensky's like, yeah, I'm kind of up for this and Biden says no, what is going on?

00:06:48.000 Given that we've been continually told that this is not a proxy war, President Biden rejecting the peace deal is Is that what's happened? Can we look into this further? It

00:06:58.000 doesn't seem right. Is Biden in a position to reject peace deals for a war that he's not in,

00:07:03.000 that he's not involved in? The US involvement is measurable. It's something that we can

00:07:09.000 observe. Of course it can be financially observed because we know that there is aid continually

00:07:15.000 coming out of the United States in the form of packages from Raytheon, Lockheed Martin, etc.

00:07:20.000 And we'll get into that in a moment, because this peace deal may have a few obstacles before it's realised.

00:07:26.000 Because, you know, firstly, Biden is opposed to the peace deal, even though America are not involved in the world, other than just cheering from the sidelines.

00:07:35.000 But also, it seems that Putin is not a person who finds handshakes that easy.

00:07:39.000 I didn't know this right up until today.

00:07:42.000 I always saw Putin as a self-assured, empowered man, as an alpha leader, as testosterone-fueled. 0.83

00:07:50.000 Sure, I've seen the propaganda that he can't help crapping himself every half hour.

00:07:54.000 Of course, I would agree that the devastation wreaked upon Ukraine is disgusting, and particularly after we read that list of war crimes the other day, and the degree of suffering is...

00:08:05.000 Incomprehensible, actually, what's been going on.

00:08:07.000 Those war crimes that the US has equally committed.

00:08:09.000 The sad news is that every single war crime that Russia has committed in Ukraine, the United States have committed elsewhere since 1998.

00:08:17.000 We were disgusted to find that out and concerned, and that's why they can't cooperate with the ICC attempt to arrest Putin for war crimes.

00:08:25.000 But one thing that would make Putin Teflon in any attempt to arrest him is if the arrest Commenced with a handshake.

00:08:33.000 Sir, on good faith, I'd like to arrest you.

00:08:36.000 Put it there, my man!

00:08:37.000 Because Putin is a man who simply can't shake hands.

00:08:40.000 I've always been, myself, concerned about whether to go for the high five, the fist bump, the conventional handshake, that handshake.

00:08:47.000 I'm never really certain.

00:08:48.000 And then it's to what degree you shake a hand as well.

00:08:51.000 Whether to do it for a long while, whether to do a squeeze.

00:08:53.000 Exactly, a squeeze.

00:08:55.000 How hard you go in on it.

00:08:56.000 It should feel loving.

00:08:57.000 Do you remember when we met Tucker Carlson's brother?

00:09:00.000 Oh, how did he go?

00:09:01.000 He had the hardest handshake ever.

00:09:02.000 Buckley!

00:09:03.000 Buckley Carlson!

00:09:04.000 Unbelievable.

00:09:05.000 Buckley Carlson with his sort of piratical tan.

00:09:09.000 Buckley Carlson with a smuggler's glint in his eye.

00:09:12.000 Wasn't he?

00:09:13.000 Buckley Carlson!

00:09:15.000 He's the naughtier of the Carlson brothers.

00:09:17.000 The people that don't like Tucker Carlson...

00:09:19.000 God help them if they meet Buckley.

00:09:21.000 That cad, he's a rapscallion, isn't he?

00:09:23.000 Absolutely.

00:09:24.000 Sort of like wavy hair, he looks like he's from another time altogether.

00:09:28.000 I think within seconds of meeting us, he's like, you got a gun?

00:09:30.000 No, are we going to need one?

00:09:33.000 You sure are, buddy.

00:09:35.000 Buckley Carlson, Buckley Carlson.

00:09:37.000 Actually, lovely man.

00:09:37.000 Lovely man.

00:09:38.000 Lovely.

00:09:39.000 Don't speak out of turn about our meeting with the Carlsons for our attempt to bring together new alliances because we're politically astute people and we realise that you can't use the labels of left and right anymore.

00:09:50.000 You have to look at it as centre and periphery, as I learned from Martin Gury, a man who I reference more often than my actual children.

00:09:57.000 Let's have a look at Putin failing to shake hands again and again and again to a level that's I don't know, he's worrying really.

00:10:04.000 I think they might actually be setting up with him.

00:10:06.000 Let's have a look.

00:10:11.000 That's all right, that could easily happen.

00:10:13.000 I think what his problem is mostly is he don't time handshakes well.

00:10:16.000 Try and look at this.

00:10:17.000 Is it a lack of confidence?

00:10:18.000 Is it simply the issue of timing?

00:10:20.000 I've never thought of Putin as being an impeachable guy, like as in nervous.

00:10:26.000 Whenever you see him and he's like practicing doing missile launches and that, or like in that helicopter.

00:10:31.000 He always looks pretty like, I don't care.

00:10:31.000 That's right.

00:10:34.000 You know that he's in the KGB.

00:10:35.000 My assumption is that he's actually literally therefore killed people himself.

00:10:39.000 I don't know, cause I'm sure within the KGB, they're probably job sweepers.

00:10:41.000 I don't think it's a wild speculation.

00:10:43.000 Not wild.

00:10:44.000 Certainly he's, I mean, he's a war criminal.

00:10:47.000 Like at least that's what the ICC is saying.

00:10:48.000 Certainly he's like making choices that lead to the death of children.

00:10:51.000 But maybe even with those hands that he can't seem to shake on cue,

00:10:56.000 he might've actually throttled.

00:10:58.000 I don't know how the KGB do their murders.

00:11:00.000 There was that umbrella murder they did over in our country in Salisbury of all places, little poison murder. 0.98

00:11:05.000 And you know, they do proper spy murders. 0.97

00:11:07.000 Yeah, they were very sneaky those ones.

00:11:09.000 Sneaky murders.

00:11:10.000 You could imagine him doing it like he's wrestling a bear or something. 0.99

00:11:12.000 He would take his top off and he'd murder you. 0.98

00:11:15.000 Like you'd be asleep in your bed. 0.99

00:11:16.000 You'd get nudged like that on the shoulder.

00:11:18.000 You know, huh, what's this?

00:11:19.000 And then it's Putin, focus out. 1.00

00:11:21.000 I've come to kill you. 1.00

00:11:22.000 But then just grab the pillow, start throttling. 1.00

00:11:26.000 That's my wife! 1.00

00:11:27.000 That's not a woman, that's my wife! 1.00

00:11:29.000 Oh, sorry, you! 0.99

00:11:30.000 No!

00:11:31.000 No!

00:11:32.000 That's my special orthopedic neck pillow!

00:11:36.000 That's why he probably had to leave the KGB.

00:11:37.000 Right.

00:11:38.000 Them shaky hands of him.

00:11:40.000 He is not a man that could work for Jim Henson.

00:11:43.000 You can't have Putin operating Kermit.

00:11:45.000 Putin's puppets?

00:11:46.000 Putin's puppets?

00:11:46.000 No.

00:11:47.000 Hey, come on, man!

00:11:49.000 I don't want to reveal that my Jordan Peterson impression comes from a Kermit impression, so I'm going to stop right there and have a look at Putin bungling social norms.

00:12:00.000 What's he doing there?

00:12:01.000 He's really keen to get back into that, isn't he?

00:12:03.000 Because there was a bit where he seems to suggest maybe we'll just do a thumbs up instead.

00:12:03.000 Yeah.

00:12:07.000 Take it back a bit.

00:12:08.000 Go back a little bit, because he did do that.

00:12:09.000 He tries to... He starts off, handshake.

00:12:12.000 Then I think I see fist bump.

00:12:14.000 Then I see thumbs up.

00:12:15.000 Back to handshake.

00:12:16.000 It's like he's rock, paper, scissor in this poor guy.

00:12:18.000 Okay, so let's have a look.

00:12:20.000 Who is this dude?

00:12:27.000 And then he just tries to pretend he's going in.

00:12:28.000 Oh, I just went in there.

00:12:30.000 Say someone, say you're, look, I don't know how good your eyesight is, Gareth, I've never asked.

00:12:34.000 It's not that great.

00:12:35.000 So, you're arriving at something, and there's some people, maybe someone goes like that, but they're across a room.

00:12:40.000 Right.

00:12:41.000 Like, do you double check it's you?

00:12:43.000 Yeah, no, I tend to just whisper.

00:12:45.000 You just respond.

00:12:46.000 Yeah, I'm just happy.

00:12:47.000 I can't take the shame.

00:12:48.000 I'm happy someone may be communicating with me.

00:12:51.000 Like, if I go like that.

00:12:52.000 Yeah.

00:12:53.000 And then I sort of look over my shoulder, and it's someone else.

00:12:55.000 I just think, oh no, I've really just wasted this wave.

00:12:58.000 No, I just, I commit to the wave.

00:13:00.000 Just wait.

00:13:00.000 There's a beaming smile.

00:13:03.000 You and Putin are a disaster waiting to happen. 0.88

00:13:06.000 We are, absolutely. 0.97

00:13:07.000 Like when my mate shook hands with Eminem, he said that I've told you this before, that other people did that.

00:13:13.000 Eminem wants that handshake.

00:13:15.000 He wants that one, you know?

00:13:16.000 Obviously.

00:13:18.000 My mate said that the other people there all did that one, letting Eminem lead the way, but then he forced Eminem out of that one into that one.

00:13:25.000 He wasn't saying that like he was on IARD.

00:13:28.000 He was saying... I don't know why he did it.

00:13:30.000 He forced a British handshake on Eminem.

00:13:32.000 Yeah sure.

00:13:33.000 It was a very English way of handling it.

00:13:34.000 Let's see, now this one is just bad timing.

00:13:38.000 Here Putin goes for, well the problem is, was he Kim Jong Il?

00:13:44.000 Kim Jong Un, as we've already established, he does not focus on what he's doing, in my part.

00:13:50.000 Limited facial expressions as well.

00:13:52.000 There's so many powerful, these people.

00:13:53.000 These are the world's most powerful people.

00:13:55.000 They're either atrophying, cadaverous presidents of the United States who can't remember the sentence they started by the time they're six words in.

00:14:02.000 They're Putin, who can't carry out a normal social interaction like a handshake.

00:14:05.000 There's Kim Jong-un, who, like, what I will credit him with is he's switched off from reality, isn't he?

00:14:11.000 Like, he's in bliss.

00:14:12.000 This is Kim Jong-un.

00:14:13.000 I don't even know if I can do that face.

00:14:17.000 I've never been that relaxed in my life.

00:14:23.000 You're jealous of him, aren't you? 0.93

00:14:24.000 There's a point, somewhere in an orgasm, or somewhere at the absolute high point of a poo, where I'd like... 0.95

00:14:33.000 Oh, it's worth staying alive for a split second!

00:14:36.000 If this could last forever! 1.00

00:14:38.000 I could do a couple more years of this crap. 0.99

00:14:40.000 But mostly, I'm agitated with just the grind of reality. 0.99

00:14:45.000 I mean, have we ruled out that he needs a poo a lot?

00:14:49.000 He looks constipated in his own way.

00:14:51.000 He looks like he's given into it, doesn't he?

00:14:53.000 I mean, I hope these are not cultural issues that North Koreans have.

00:14:56.000 I mean, we'll look weird.

00:14:56.000 No, let's hope not.

00:14:57.000 Anyway, let's see.

00:14:58.000 So this is when an immovable object meets an irresistible force or whatever the hell it is.

00:15:02.000 Because Putin and Kim Jong... I mean, God knows what happens if they try to make love.

00:15:07.000 If this is a handshake, imagine the complexity of inverted oral activity, for example.

00:15:14.000 Shall we imagine it?

00:15:15.000 Yes.

00:15:15.000 Let's all do that as a society together.

00:15:19.000 Have you ever felt happier than holding that image in your mind?

00:15:22.000 Why not do that?

00:15:23.000 It would be better, like we're disgusted aren't we by that, but it would be better that they did that if world leaders were put in a room and said make love with each other until you come up with a viable solution to this endless war.

00:15:34.000 Biden, go on, you had it in the day.

00:15:37.000 You get in a room with Putin and the pair of yours says now you should click over and watch on Rumble.

00:15:43.000 We haven't got any images of this stuff.

00:15:45.000 I forgot we're on YouTube!

00:15:46.000 Is that alright so far?

00:15:47.000 How bad has it been?

00:15:50.000 If you're watching this on YouTube we're going to click over in a minute.

00:15:52.000 Remember we're going to talk about how gain of function, not actually gain of function, how amalgamations of variants within the coronavirus We're being irresponsibly amalgamated in City of London, right in the very midst of the pandemic.

00:16:10.000 What are you going for?

00:16:11.000 Are you going to Jack the Ripper?

00:16:13.000 I thought you were going to go into Jack the Ripper territory.

00:16:15.000 Alright, me staff!

00:16:16.000 That sort of stuff.

00:16:17.000 Fetish and pathogens! 1.00

00:16:20.000 Here, come this way, Pearly Pole! 1.00

00:16:23.000 In Old White Chettle! 0.96

00:16:28.000 He shouldn't be trivialised, he was a murderer. 1.00

00:16:30.000 A murderer and a sex criminal. 0.99

00:16:30.000 Absolutely. 0.99

00:16:32.000 Yeah, they do tours for him.

00:16:34.000 I know!

00:16:34.000 Little tours around East London.

00:16:35.000 It's scary, I used to live in East London, I'd see those tours going by.

00:16:38.000 Very unnerving.

00:16:39.000 That's where he done those murders of innocent women.

00:16:39.000 Yes.

00:16:42.000 That shouldn't really be celebrated, but there you go.

00:16:44.000 The British have always been a strange breed. 1.00

00:16:46.000 Well, we gave Obama a Peace Prize, so...

00:16:49.000 You could have a peace prize and you could have a musical!

00:16:53.000 Like Sweeney Todd.

00:16:55.000 I think Sweeney Todd was real.

00:16:56.000 Right.

00:16:57.000 Let's not get too bogged down in it because I'm still chomping to see... I wasn't suggesting Obama did those kind of things, by the way.

00:16:57.000 I don't know.

00:17:04.000 No, you said he's a war criminal.

00:17:05.000 Right.

00:17:05.000 In fact, you didn't even say that.

00:17:07.000 The facts say that because he participated in the bombing in the Yemen that's led to 400,000 civilian deaths.

00:17:07.000 No.

00:17:14.000 Right.

00:17:14.000 Let's have a look at this handshake.

00:17:16.000 It's just a game.

00:17:18.000 Come on.

00:17:20.000 Now look at his face. He's ready.

00:17:22.000 Look at this, he's ready.

00:17:23.000 Now, that's out of order.

00:17:26.000 Is Putin not regarded with much respect in Russia?

00:17:29.000 Have we just got it all wrong?

00:17:30.000 Is their propaganda that good that actually the rest of the world?

00:17:33.000 Oh no, oh no.

00:17:35.000 Here it comes.

00:17:36.000 This is your big moment, Vladimir.

00:17:38.000 Why don't we go for the fist bump?

00:17:41.000 Oh man.

00:17:42.000 Maybe I'll try a thumb wrestle with this fella. 0.95

00:17:45.000 He's like Frank Spencer.

00:17:47.000 No, I'm not doing that.

00:17:50.000 But anyway, Biden, who's nothing to do with that war as far as we can understand, blocking a peace deal surely is not connected to this.

00:17:59.000 The US has announced a $350 million weapons package For Ukraine.

00:18:04.000 Again, obviously, Ukraine will have the right to protect themselves and all of that.

00:18:09.000 But a peace deal would be better, I think.

00:18:13.000 $350 million including ammunition for the HIMARS rocket launchers, artillery rounds, high speed.

00:18:19.000 It just looks like a bunch of dangerous stuff.

00:18:21.000 Anyway, it's profitable stuff.

00:18:22.000 And they're being pulled from the $45 billion aid bill Congress passed in December.

00:18:27.000 And aren't we hearing that they want more and they don't think it's enough?

00:18:30.000 I think Hillary Clinton said it recently as well.

00:18:30.000 Yes.

00:18:33.000 She wants to pipe down.

00:18:34.000 Don't you?

00:18:35.000 Every time she says anything, you think, oh, come on, mate.

00:18:37.000 Well, you know, she's still in Congress.

00:18:39.000 Oh, no, she's not.

00:18:40.000 It's just a hobby.

00:18:41.000 It's just a simple hobby of hers to get stuck in and get involved.

00:18:45.000 Like good old Tony Blair as well.

00:18:48.000 What I'd like to know is, it's 20 years since the Iraq War.

00:18:52.000 Yeah, speaking of Tony Blair.

00:18:53.000 Let's celebrate that, the Iraq War, right? 1.00

00:18:56.000 It's weird now that wars have anniversaries, don't you think?

00:18:58.000 It is a bit.

00:19:00.000 Like, you know, is it, you know how, like, you maybe get paper or wood or ruby or diamond or those type of ones.

00:19:05.000 Like, now wars have anniversaries.

00:19:07.000 We all saw Joe Biden have a lovely celebration of one year.

00:19:10.000 He did that night in Pol- One night only!

00:19:12.000 Joe Biden in Poland.

00:19:14.000 Ooh, one night in Poland!

00:19:18.000 Too much?

00:19:19.000 I don't know, it's about the right amount.

00:19:21.000 But it's 20 years since the Iraq War.

00:19:23.000 Here's some terrifying facts about the Iraq War before presenting to you Julian Assange's long-cherished edict that the function of war is to funnel money from you, the taxpayer, and us, the public, to private interests.

00:19:39.000 So, during the Iraq War, in the last 20 years, money spent on weapons has doubled to nearly $2 trillion a year.

00:19:45.000 Blimey.

00:19:47.000 In 2020 alone, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, General Dynamics, Raytheon and Northrop Grumman... Ay-up!

00:19:53.000 ...accounted for nearly a third... Ay-up!

00:19:55.000 We're in a weapons game!

00:19:57.000 If you're English, you'd know that Northrop Grumman sounds like a Yorkshireman who's, like, selling weapons as part of... He's a bit part clown or creatures great and small.

00:20:06.000 It sounds like a place I would have worked as a teenager.

00:20:08.000 Right, come here.

00:20:09.000 You're an apprenticeship at Northrup Grumman.

00:20:11.000 Get in, son.

00:20:12.000 Right, we're selling these telescope lenses.

00:20:15.000 They're perfectly ethical.

00:20:17.000 But tell you what, where we turn a pretty penny, and you know how a Yorkshireman likes to earn a pound-notch, is these missiles.

00:20:24.000 Now, if we can sustain war here at Northrup Grumman, well, I'll get thee, Raytheon.

00:20:30.000 I'll get thee, Bowen.

00:20:32.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:20:33.000 Yorkshire people use thee and thou.

00:20:35.000 They kept hold of that pronoun for reasons that none of us, not even them, fully understand.

00:20:40.000 And you are them, aren't you?

00:20:41.000 I am.

00:20:42.000 I don't understand.

00:20:42.000 Why thee?

00:20:43.000 Why thou?

00:20:44.000 Why?

00:20:45.000 Why indeed?

00:20:46.000 Anyway, look, Northrop Grumman accounted for nearly a third of the $480 billion obligated by the Pentagon to defence contractors.

00:20:52.000 It's estimated nearly, well he just made loads of money, you know that already.

00:20:55.000 Halliburton, Halliburton were the black rock of their day.

00:20:58.000 See, obviously, the reason we're talking about Iraq is we're saying that these wars are still happening.

00:21:02.000 And while you might say, no, no, no, it's a necessary war. 0.99

00:21:04.000 Putin's a monster. 0.94

00:21:05.000 Have you seen that guy try and shake hands? 0.99

00:21:07.000 All of that stuff valid and true.

00:21:09.000 You have to acknowledge also that the Iraq war was not a popular war at the time.

00:21:14.000 It was a war in all good, on a lie, on a deception.

00:21:18.000 The deception being, of course, that there were weapons of mass destruction.

00:21:21.000 Millions of people protested in the street.

00:21:23.000 It was a pivotal moment in our history.

00:21:25.000 You should look at our conversation with Glenn Greenwald that we had a couple of days ago.

00:21:29.000 He gives a beautiful description how the events of 2003 and the events of 2008 still define the world that we are living in.

00:21:37.000 Perhaps, you know, like I suppose since 9-11 it's been a surveillance state.

00:21:43.000 Only thanks to figures like Julian Assange and his bravery are we even aware of many of the atrocities that took place in that war and that's of course why he's in Belmarsh prison to this day without Ever having had a trial.

00:21:56.000 It doesn't seem right that someone's in a maximum security prison without a trial.

00:22:00.000 Is that how we do business?

00:22:01.000 Apparently it is.

00:22:02.000 Halliburton in 2009, it was the world's second largest oilfield service company.

00:22:07.000 What's all this?

00:22:08.000 You know, they've made a lot of money.

00:22:10.000 Halliburton made a lot of money.

00:22:11.000 And I remember reading about Clinton, Hillary Clinton, this was and in terms of that quote that we saw of her recently post Iraq, where she spoke about Iraq as a business opportunity for American interests.

00:22:23.000 She did literally a speech where she was talking about it as a business interest.

00:22:26.000 And then you discovered the people who made a lot of money out of it.

00:22:29.000 Some were, you know, weapons manufacturers, others were energy companies, all incredibly donated to the Hillary Clinton Foundation.

00:22:36.000 So there you go.

00:22:37.000 Click over right now.

00:22:38.000 If you're watching this on YouTube, we're going to tell you about Landon Tan and their ludicrous experimentations that went on even at the height of the coronavirus pandemic.

00:22:48.000 And we are going to give you some unique insights into the life of Hillary Clinton directly from Alex Jones.

00:22:55.000 So click over, right now, if you want to hear them.

00:22:58.000 I've just been talking to Alex Jones.

00:22:59.000 Click over!

00:23:00.000 You won't hear them on YouTube.

00:23:01.000 I won't say them there.

00:23:02.000 All right. 0.98

00:23:03.000 Join us on Rumble, where we can speak freely, damn it. 0.98

00:23:07.000 So, listen, I'm not going to say that, Alex Jones. 0.98

00:23:09.000 No, I'm not actually doing that.

00:23:10.000 That's just a joke.

00:23:11.000 I was mucking around.

00:23:12.000 Like, we've not spoke to Alex Jones for a long time.

00:23:14.000 That was clickbait is what you just did there.

00:23:16.000 I baited you there to click that.

00:23:17.000 But we are going to tell you some stuff about gain of function.

00:23:20.000 And the other thing I want to talk about on the anniversary of the Iraq war, Gareth.

00:23:23.000 Yes.

00:23:24.000 It's like that Tony Blair, who sort of grinned his way through that Iraq war.

00:23:28.000 Certainly did.

00:23:29.000 He's wringing his hands, smiling his artist.

00:23:31.000 Yeah, I remember seeing him and George Bush with their hands in their little jackets, walking up the, you know, when he went to see.

00:23:36.000 War jackets, like camo.

00:23:37.000 Yeah, like that.

00:23:38.000 Do you know, I don't think politicians should be allowed to do that, unless they have been in the army, like Churchill.

00:23:42.000 Right, like we saw Rishi Sunak recently.

00:23:45.000 They love it!

00:23:49.000 They got such little stiffies for Zelensky in his khaki jumper, don't they?

00:23:54.000 Look at Zelensky!

00:23:56.000 Vladimir!

00:23:57.000 You know, like Trudeau.

00:23:58.000 Oh Vladimir, can you borrow me that Cub Scout hoodie?

00:24:03.000 They're so into it, aren't they?

00:24:04.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:24:07.000 Blair is worth $60 million now.

00:24:09.000 That does not surprise me.

00:24:10.000 I'll give you all of that posturing.

00:24:11.000 And the rest.

00:24:12.000 Yeah, probably more.

00:24:13.000 He's got one of those bloody philanthropic associations that doesn't pay taxes and accumulates money.

00:24:18.000 That's allegedly.

00:24:19.000 I'm just making it up.

00:24:20.000 It really is.

00:24:20.000 You do the... Come on, it's plain as day that he will have.

00:24:24.000 Shall we have a look now?

00:24:25.000 Now that you've joined us over here and we're unable to feed you any Alex Jones-style information about the private business of Hillary Clinton, which, frankly, I don't mind about.

00:24:33.000 In fact, I have no personal dislike of any member of Any family, anywhere.

00:24:40.000 Just what I feel like they are good at helping us understand is how politics functions, how there's sort of aristocracies within various political parties in the United States of America, that they're undemocratic, that it's pretty well understood now that within the Democratic Party they scuppered the campaign of Bernie Sanders because they wouldn't be able to stay true to their paymasters if Bernie got elected.

00:25:02.000 And I know loads of you don't like Bernie because you think he's got too many houses or stuff like that.

00:25:06.000 And I did hear when I was on Bill Maher the other day, there was a bit where he goes, you know, no, you've got to have centralised forces.

00:25:12.000 And I thought, hang on, what's that all about?

00:25:14.000 Yeah, I think.

00:25:15.000 Yeah.

00:25:16.000 I mean, could that be a centralised response that is positive and democratic rather than unelected bodies like the WHO, WEF, all that kind of stuff.

00:25:24.000 All I think about Bernie Sanders, he's got a hell of a lot better policies than, for example, Hillary Clinton.

00:25:30.000 You wouldn't argue with that, would you?

00:25:31.000 Let us know in the chat.

00:25:32.000 Let us know in the comments.

00:25:33.000 And while you're thinking about, you know, moving around deck chairs on the Titanic with different political figures within established political movements that are funded in exactly the same way, we'll tell you this.

00:25:46.000 I can't believe this is true.

00:25:47.000 And tell me if you can believe it.

00:25:48.000 Right in the middle of that pandemic, when we were concerned about how it came about, how it was going to end, what the proper response was, whether people were being honest about vaccine medications and the consequences of them, In London, where the Queen was living at that time.

00:26:03.000 It's not what took her, is it?

00:26:05.000 What's that?

00:26:05.000 It's not what took her from us.

00:26:07.000 We cannot know for certain!

00:26:09.000 Risky research, down the road.

00:26:11.000 Allegedly.

00:26:12.000 Risky research while there's a vulnerable old lady, rich, absolutely minted, her face all over the cash, poor cow. 1.00

00:26:21.000 Allegedly.

00:26:22.000 It's out of order.

00:26:23.000 You shouldn't, if you love her... Was the allegedly for poor cow? 0.97

00:26:26.000 Just in case.

00:26:27.000 Allegedly.

00:26:28.000 People don't maybe think it's rude.

00:26:30.000 Look at this, how brash... I should just say sorry.

00:26:34.000 Sorry about that, mate.

00:26:37.000 Don't lie! 1.00

00:26:38.000 F**k it! 1.00

00:26:39.000 There's a whole host of things on here. 1.00

00:26:40.000 Chainer.

00:26:41.000 Okay.

00:26:41.000 I would feel physically sick.

00:26:43.000 That's what I'd feel if I found out Her Majesty the Queen was compromised because of these experiments.

00:26:48.000 Well, look, while they were naysaying the potential for that lab leak coming out of Wuhan, Quibbling that it would be of natural origin regardless if it went via a bloody lab with the newly emergent raccoon dog magic bullet theory, courtesy of Anthony Fauci.

00:27:08.000 Did you know that they were carrying on with what I'm going to refer to obliquely as scientific skullduggery in London?

00:27:15.000 British experiments risk making the COVID pandemic more lethal.

00:27:19.000 You shouldn't be doing any experiments where there's even the slightest risk Of making it more lethal.

00:27:23.000 You wouldn't think so.

00:27:24.000 We're in the throes of the pandemic.

00:27:27.000 We're in the throes of one.

00:27:28.000 Right?

00:27:28.000 We're all taking it so serious.

00:27:30.000 Do you remember that?

00:27:30.000 Can't go out, gotta wear a mask, all of that stuff.

00:27:32.000 It was so annoying.

00:27:33.000 Because also, like, gain of function is controversial and always has been.

00:27:38.000 Like, scientifically, it has been controversial and divided opinion.

00:27:42.000 You think the one time where you might go, do you know what?

00:27:44.000 We probably don't need any more of the kind of controversy at the moment.

00:27:47.000 Should we just stop doing gain of function, especially on this, during this time? 0.99

00:27:51.000 You coward! 0.99

00:27:52.000 Come on! 1.00

00:27:53.000 Why did you get into the Covid game?

00:27:56.000 What is their trouble, even?

00:27:58.000 What's the best possible outcome?

00:28:01.000 Sometimes I don't understand where it is we're progressing to at such pace.

00:28:05.000 I do.

00:28:06.000 It's a dystopian, centralised, authoritarian nightmare.

00:28:10.000 And another thing that came out of the conversation with Glenn Greenwald is that oligarchs just a century ago Greenwald charmingly described would toss dollar bills from their passing limousine in an attempt to curry favour with the great unwashed in post-Dust Bowl America.

00:28:27.000 But now you're oligarchs! 0.85

00:28:29.000 My God, the way they carry on!

00:28:30.000 It's like they've doubled down.

00:28:32.000 They've realised we don't have to appease these people.

00:28:34.000 We've got robots now. 1.00

00:28:36.000 We can kill them if we want to. 0.98

00:28:39.000 Yeah, we've got connections with the government, we've got connections with social media companies, we can basically rewrite the narrative. 0.99

00:28:45.000 Stay free with Russell Brand.

00:28:47.000 See it first on Rumble.

00:28:49.000 Thank you for those comments.

00:28:50.000 Whipsnade says, Russell, I don't know how you do it, how you've ever done it, how you continue to do it, but just carry on doing it.

00:28:59.000 Whereas Brentford Safari says, I've had enough of you, son.

00:29:03.000 You're starting to wind me up now.

00:29:05.000 And then look at this, little old gypsy boy. 1.00

00:29:07.000 Gareth Roy, what's going on with you, son?

00:29:10.000 I've had just about enough of it.

00:29:12.000 You made me taste sick in my mouth.

00:29:14.000 What's going on with these comments?

00:29:15.000 Who knows?

00:29:16.000 Who knows who these people are, how they operate?

00:29:18.000 You let me know in the chat and the comments.

00:29:20.000 Sometimes I worry about you guys.

00:29:22.000 I'm trying to just shine love out of my heart into your hearts.

00:29:25.000 Now, Julian Assange, we told you about Julian Assange believes that the function of government is to filter public money into the hands of private organisations.

00:29:34.000 We're going to have a look at Julian saying that, and then we're going to talk to our guest Dave Smith, who's an advocate for anti-war and host of the Part of the Problem podcast, who will, I believe, strongly agree with that metric, because he believes in as little government as possible, being, as I understand, a libertarian.

00:29:49.000 Check out Assange saying that.

00:29:51.000 Because the goal is not to completely subjugate Afghanistan.

00:29:55.000 The goal is to use Afghanistan to wash money out of the tax bases of the United States, out of the tax bases of European countries, through Afghanistan, and back into the hands of a transnational security alliance.

00:30:10.000 That is the goal, i.e.

00:30:12.000 the goal is to have an endless war, not a successful war.

00:30:17.000 Endless war.

00:30:18.000 Julian Assange, you can see why he's banged up in Belmarsh, because what he's doing is spitting facts and providing evidence.

00:30:24.000 Today, we've been talking about war a lot because it's the anniversary of the Iraq War.

00:30:27.000 Happy anniversary, Iraq War! 1.00

00:30:29.000 How do you do it?

00:30:30.000 And one year now of the ongoing conflict between Ukraine and Russia, all the terrible deaths incurred, particularly, you know, Ukraine, who are obviously under attack.

00:30:39.000 And there is an ongoing war in Syria.

00:30:41.000 We're talking to Dave Smith today on the subject of war.

00:30:44.000 Dave, thank you so much for joining us.

00:30:47.000 Thank you so much for having me.

00:30:48.000 I'm a huge fan.

00:30:49.000 Oh, that's so kind of you to say.

00:30:50.000 Dave, what do you think about Julian Assange's maxim there and how applicable it continues to be even in conflicts like this current one?

00:30:58.000 Well, I mean, there's no, it's not really debatable that he's correct.

00:31:01.000 I mean, factually, that's what happens.

00:31:03.000 I mean, people like so many special interests have been enriched over the last just 20 years of say the war on terrorism.

00:31:09.000 Every one of those bills to arm Ukraine ends up just being cash in the pockets of weapons manufacturers or the CIA budget increasing.

00:31:18.000 It's like with the COVID stuff.

00:31:18.000 I don't know.

00:31:19.000 I don't know if that's the only motivating factor. I think sometimes they also wanted, you

00:31:25.000 know, they might also want to say tank Donald Trump's chances of getting re-elected, but

00:31:30.000 their pharmaceutical companies are also raking in profits. I think they did want to overthrow Saddam

00:31:35.000 Hussein for other reasons, but that's definitely part of it. Dave, with the ICC

00:31:40.000 announcing that it is their bizarre intention to arrest Vladimir Putin, a man who I don't

00:31:45.000 imagine would cooperate with an ordinary arrest. Although having seen him attempt to shake hands, I

00:31:51.000 can see that if you were to approach him from the front, he could be vulnerable.

00:31:54.000 What do you feel about the war in Syria and the bombing of Yemen, which indicts Biden, Trump and Obama all as war criminals to the same standard of Putin, the same standard by which Putin is being charged?

00:32:13.000 I mean, I think it far exceeds it if we're just being objective.

00:32:17.000 I mean, Ukraine is a catastrophe and Putin has a lot of responsibility for that, so he doesn't have all the responsibility.

00:32:25.000 But the humanitarian crisis in Yemen is objectively, if that's a catastrophe, this is a catastrophe times ten.

00:32:31.000 There's just way more people dying.

00:32:33.000 And it wasn't soldiers dying over the last eight years in Yemen, it was like babies starving to death and dying of cholera and stuff.

00:32:41.000 Yeah, look, there's a great video, I don't know if you've ever seen, where Noam Chomsky just breaks down the war crimes of every post-World War II president of the United States of America.

00:32:50.000 So, like, I'm fine if we want to indict war criminals, but let's get them all, you know? 0.99

00:32:55.000 And you see something like, if you look at Yemen particularly, you just see how much Like, the whole military-industrial complex, American empire establishment, they care about humanitarian issues when it's convenient.

00:33:10.000 You don't see every day in the corporate press people talking about the humanitarian crisis in Yemen, or in Palestine, or in Syria, or in Somalia.

00:33:21.000 But we do see the one on Russia's border that we can blame on Russia.

00:33:26.000 That's the one that they hyper-focus on.

00:33:28.000 Yeah, that does concern me.

00:33:31.000 And even when we raise these points, we are often smeared.

00:33:35.000 And it's difficult not to assume, even though it seems reductive, even when I'm saying it, that the financial benefits of these conflicts are the determining factor.

00:33:45.000 and the alliances between the military-industrial complex and the media and the government

00:33:50.000 are what determine the way these stories are presented, because you're right.

00:33:53.000 If that were not the case, you would hear as much about Yemen,

00:33:57.000 you would hear as much about other conflicts.

00:33:58.000 If the metric by which we measured catastrophe was deaths and destruction,

00:34:04.000 and nobody's saying that those things are not present in the tragedy in Ukraine

00:34:08.000 and that it oughtn't be stopped as quickly as possible, but other criminals would be brought to the forefront as

00:34:15.000 well.

00:34:15.000 In our recent show we talked about the lack of moral authority for any agency that would Seek to arrest Trump.

00:34:23.000 That's not saying that Trump isn't guilty of wrongdoing.

00:34:25.000 In fact, we're ignoring that altogether, because if Trump is guilty, then, you know, the Clinton campaign will be guilty by the same measure.

00:34:32.000 But what we're saying is that the lack of faith in institutions that we are currently experiencing means that we clearly need systemic change.

00:34:42.000 Am I right in understanding, Dave, that that's precisely your personal perspective And if you are a libertarian, and I know you are, I'm just using this rhetorically, what is the role of government?

00:34:54.000 How minimal can government involvement in the lives of ordinary Americans, ordinary people of all persuasions, be?

00:35:02.000 And do you not agree that the role of the government and the function of the government is supposed to be to, in a sense, provide some kind of edifice against corporate corruption, even if it Obviously doesn't do that now.

00:35:14.000 It does the bloody opposite.

00:35:16.000 It'd just be good for you to unpack some of those ideas for us, please.

00:35:19.000 Yeah, sure.

00:35:20.000 I mean, well, I think I'd like the government to be about as small as we could possibly get it.

00:35:24.000 And I think from my perspective, the idea that the government was ever supposed to be a shield for the people against big corporate interests, as always, there might be some people who really believe that.

00:35:35.000 I think in reality it has never been that and it's always been, you know, much more a tool for big money interests than anything that was ever working against them.

00:35:46.000 And if you ever see, anytime that you ever saw the government working against big business, it was almost always on behalf of some other big business who wanted their competition stomped out.

00:35:55.000 That's just the way of the world.

00:35:56.000 It's like power corrupts and there's nothing more powerful than a government.

00:36:00.000 And so if you're saying that you need the government To check the power of a corporation.

00:36:05.000 Well, in order to do that, it's going to have to be more powerful than that corporation.

00:36:08.000 And so now, once you have this power center, it's going to become a race to see who can buy it off and, and who's going to have a better shot of doing that than the biggest businesses.

00:36:18.000 So I think the whole paradigm, like you talked earlier about like the left, right paradigm being all kind of like, it doesn't really apply anymore.

00:36:25.000 I think that basically it's not a question of like, are you anti big business or anti big government?

00:36:31.000 I think if you oppose one, you have to oppose the other because they're all in bed together.

00:36:35.000 And, you know, just to touch on what you said there about the kind of like getting called all the names because you oppose the war, you know, on this anniversary of Iraq, just remember that the people who were opposed to this war, the war in Iraq, the line back then was, you're either with us or you're with the terrorists.

00:36:52.000 They basically said, if you don't want to overthrow Saddam Hussein, then you're happy that 9-11 happened.

00:36:57.000 You're on their side of that.

00:36:59.000 And now, years later, even John McCain, on his deathbed in his memoir, wrote that he acknowledged the war was a mistake.

00:37:06.000 Everyone now acknowledges that those people were right to oppose the war.

00:37:09.000 So just to keep that in mind with all the people, they'll call you a Putin-apologist or something like that now if you oppose the West's involvement in the war in Ukraine.

00:37:19.000 But yeah, the whole thing is a racket, and it's all big business interests that control the governments.

00:37:25.000 That's really interesting that you say that, mate.

00:37:29.000 That it plainly was a transgressive war and the way, and I didn't remember that, that they said, yeah, that they equated it with terror, made it unpatriotic and made it like you were dishonoring those that died on 9-11.

00:37:44.000 And now, even if you're non-compliant around coronavirus, remember there was the same kind of shaming narrative that, like as if you were a friend of coronavirus, like you're its little mate carrying it about and stuff.

00:37:57.000 It's weird, the role, the palette that it's drawn from.

00:38:01.000 Even though sometimes we think of these systems as sophisticated, secular and of course by their nature political, the game they're playing is emotional.

00:38:08.000 They're dealing with things like shame and fear and sort of destroying your personal ability to live life, you know?

00:38:17.000 So I can understand I appreciate libertarianism from that perspective.

00:38:21.000 I think a lot of attacks that I hear on libertarianism is that it's somehow disavowing communal responsibility and collective power.

00:38:30.000 But I don't believe that those things should be imposed by some centralized agency anyway.

00:38:34.000 I think they should be voluntary.

00:38:36.000 I am a libertarian in so much as I do not like being told what to do.

00:38:39.000 And when someone tells me what to do, I think, where are you getting that authority from?

00:38:42.000 And when it's like we're the government or we're the police, I mean, well, I don't agree with either of those things.

00:38:47.000 So spiritually, I agree with it.

00:38:49.000 But how do you square it with the idea that we're here to take care of and love one another?

00:38:54.000 Yeah, so from my perspective, it's like the complete opposite of that criticism of libertarianism.

00:38:59.000 I think we're empowering the community.

00:39:01.000 I mean, the idea that, like, libertarians aren't arguing that people shouldn't join groups and help each other and do things as a community.

00:39:10.000 We're arguing that it should be done voluntarily, that it shouldn't be done through force, that you shouldn't... Every inch of government is there with the threat of a gun to your head.

00:39:20.000 It's like you pay your taxes or you go to jail.

00:39:23.000 Every law has a gun behind it saying you violate this and we will throw you in a cage. 0.95

00:39:28.000 It's really insane when you think about it, how advanced modern human civilization is, and that we still will throw human beings in a cage like an animal for ridiculous crimes. 0.97

00:39:41.000 No, I mean, okay, I'm, you know, yeah, if you if you murder someone or rape someone or, you know, stab someone or, you know, upset someone's house on fire, okay, fine. 0.95

00:39:48.000 Maybe that's the best we can do. 0.92

00:39:50.000 You kind of think still we could find something better.

00:39:52.000 But regardless of that, the idea of like, funding this monopoly on violence at the threat of will ruin your life.

00:40:00.000 And it's such a binary to say, oh, if we didn't do it that way, Then there'd be no community, then no one would care about taking care of the sick, or no one would think about like, oh, there's someone who's hard on their luck, we have to help them out.

00:40:11.000 I just don't believe it.

00:40:12.000 I don't believe that these people, these genocidal maniacs, these blood-soaked monsters, are like, the only way we would make sure grandma had a sandwich is if they're funded. 0.77

00:40:24.000 That's good.

00:40:26.000 Because actually, that sort of misanthropic assumption is what underwrites centralised and legal authority anyway.

00:40:34.000 The assumption that if you leave people alone, you know what they're going to do? 0.99

00:40:36.000 They're going to run into the streets and start masturbating and killing each other. 1.00

00:40:39.000 That's like the idea that legitimises the state power. 0.99

00:40:42.000 I suppose early sovereign power was underwritten by the idea of protection.

00:40:46.000 There are bandits, there are threats, there are dangers.

00:40:49.000 If you give the king your taxes, the king will protect you from those threats.

00:40:54.000 But it's mutated into something extraordinary.

00:40:56.000 And it's pretty obvious that even the most unquestioned version of democracy is laughable in 2023, that you need a representative to go 400 miles or whatever on horseback to tell the central authority this is what this parish believes it's antiquated and it's irrelevant and it's only being kept alive because it's beneficial to the kind of state and corporate interest that you rightly diagnose as being a kind of hybrid hydra and as you said very eloquently Dave a blood-soaked monster

00:41:27.000 Dave, thank you so much for joining us for this conversation.

00:41:30.000 I hope we get to have many more like it.

00:41:32.000 Dave Smith is an advocate for anti-war and clearly an advocate for freedom, host of Part of the Problem podcast, which you can find wherever you find podcasts.

00:41:41.000 Thanks again for joining us, Dave.

00:41:43.000 Thank you so much, man, and keep doing what you're doing.

00:41:45.000 It's incredible.

00:41:46.000 You too.

00:41:46.000 Thank you, man.

00:41:46.000 We'll see you soon.

00:41:47.000 Thank you very much.

00:41:48.000 Well, wasn't that a fantastic show?

00:41:51.000 Are you glad you joined us?

00:41:52.000 I enjoyed it.

00:41:52.000 Did you have a nice time?

00:41:54.000 Nice watching you guys.

00:41:55.000 There I was, just chatting away.

00:41:56.000 Nice conversation.

00:41:57.000 Perfectly, perfectly friendly, amiable conversation between Dave Smith and I. Libertarianism, you know, gets a lot of bad rap, doesn't it?

00:42:04.000 I thought it made it sound alright.

00:42:06.000 What I think, mate, is the same way that anarchism would be attacked and libertarianism is attacked, same way that socialism is attacked, they all are subject to smear campaigns from the existing system.

00:42:20.000 But I reckon probably what's also true is there's the potential for unquestioned utopianism as well.

00:42:27.000 Hold on, how are these things going to work?

00:42:29.000 If we're serious about changing the world, we probably have to have conversations about how we're going to reorganise it.

00:42:33.000 I do agree, keep governments small, keep communities small, keep them autonomous, keep them democratic, leave people alone has got to be one of the first principles.

00:42:43.000 Like I say to my kids, either be nice to each other or leave each other alone!

00:42:47.000 One of those options!

00:42:48.000 Stop fighting, for God's sake!

00:42:51.000 All right, well, listen, we've got plenty more time.

00:42:53.000 We've got the rest of our lives to come to some conclusions, which might not be long because it seems that people are advocating for a global holy war.

00:42:59.000 So that would get in the way, of course.

00:43:01.000 Tomorrow's show is promising to be a banger because we got Graham Hancock from the hit Netflix series Ancient Apocalypse He's coming on to talk about arcane civilizations, psychedelics.

00:43:15.000 If you entered our competition, you could be here at Stay Free HQ.

00:43:19.000 If you're a member of our locals community, you can be online while we're having the conversation, sticking your oar in, you know, asking Graham questions.

00:43:26.000 Well, you said they could touch him.

00:43:27.000 I actually got a bit out of hand and said that you could make love to Graham.

00:43:31.000 You did.

00:43:32.000 Even though I've not asked Graham whether or not he's available to make love to strangers as a prize in an online competition.

00:43:40.000 He's not winning the prize, just to be clear.

00:43:44.000 Dave, I've done you... Graham Hancock, I've done you a tremendous service here.

00:43:49.000 You will be having... First prize!

00:43:52.000 Your first prize in a sex competition I organised on the internet!

00:43:56.000 Well, I don't know about that, although the Mayans predicted something very much of this nature.

00:44:01.000 One could have happened.

00:44:03.000 Yes, yes, come on, come in.

00:44:04.000 Yeah, don't mind that.

00:44:05.000 A bit less chat chat and a bit more that that from you Graham, my man.

00:44:10.000 A bit less comic could have hit the earth and called a cataclysmic event and there's water erosion on the pyramid and a bit more noshy noshy.

00:44:18.000 No.

00:44:18.000 No?

00:44:19.000 Yes.

00:44:20.000 Sign up to our locals community where you get more things like that.

00:44:24.000 Why wouldn't you want that?

00:44:25.000 Why wouldn't you?

00:44:26.000 For example, you could see a little bit of my stand-up special Brandemic.

00:44:30.000 $20 for a one-off hit.

00:44:32.000 Or join our community.

00:44:33.000 It's there all the time.

00:44:34.000 It's only available for a limited time if you vote for $20.

00:44:37.000 Gone just like that.

00:44:37.000 Gone in a couple of weeks.

00:44:38.000 Hey, you also get access to Stay Connected, weekly meditations that I do with people.

00:44:42.000 I did a meditation with a guy called Chris.

00:44:44.000 He's got imposter syndrome.

00:44:45.000 I don't even know if it was the real Chris.

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00:44:51.000 See you tomorrow.

00:44:52.000 Not for more of the same.

00:44:53.000 That wouldn't be good enough, would it Gav? 1.00

00:44:54.000 Certainly wouldn't.

00:44:55.000 But for more of the different.

Stay Free - Russel Brand - March 23, 2023

Dave Smith (War, What Is It Good For?)

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