In the news today: the US actively don t want a ceasefire. Hunter Biden is suing the repair shop owner who worked on his laptop. Tucker Carlson admits to regretting the way the War was reported on from a personal perspective, and is also one of the only mainstream media outlets that will house Julian Assange. We'll be talking about that in detail on Rumble in a minute, exclusively on RUMBLE, where you can watch the whole show on the platform that champions free speech. And then we ll be talking later exclusively on Rumble about... no wonder they don't want to talk about that lab leak theory, perhaps because they carried on doing gain-of-function research during the Pandemic. Did you know that during the pandemic, in London where I live, where I take deep inhalations where I could easily be infected, there was a cocktail of Covid variants that during a pandemic where I was taking deep inhales. We will be talking all about that and much more on Rumble. Stay free and spread the word about this on your socials! - Russell Brand And don t forget to like, subscribe and subscribe to Stay Free with Russell Brand on Apple Podcasts and subscribe on your favourite streaming platform so you don't miss out on the next episode! If you're watching this on Rumble, you can see the entire show on Rumble where the first 15 minutes of the show is available for free. . You can also catch up on the full-length episodes of Stay Free With Russell Brand wherever you get your freebie of the day. Stay Free! - stay free, you're not getting a discount on the show. Stay Free, you won't get a discount anywhere else! You'll get access to the full show, and you'll get a chance to watch the full version of the whole thing on Rumble on Rumble and all the rest of the best streaming options available anywhere else in the world. Stay free, no ad-free, no matter where you go. You won't have to pay for it, no credit card is required, no more than $99, and no more ads, no longer gets that option, just RRP, no less than $5, no extra than $19, no fiddled than that will get that, and there's no longer works that'll get you anywhere else than that, no F&C, and I'm not even getting a credit card will be able to watch it anywhere else.
00:00:01.000Thanks for joining me for Stay Free with Russell Brand.
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00:00:18.000In the news today, the US actively don't want a ceasefire.
00:00:23.000All we're saying is give war a chance.
00:00:40.000Let me know in the chat whether or not you were aware.
00:00:42.000That during the pandemic, in London, where I live, where I take deep inhalations, where I could easily be infected, they were combining Covid variants.
00:00:52.000We'll be talking about that in detail exclusively on Rumble in a minute.
00:00:55.000That's why you should click on the link in the description.
00:01:00.000We'll be talking about how Tucker Carlson extraordinarily is the only person that openly admits to regretting the way that the war was reported on from a personal perspective, a bit of a mere culper, and is also one of the only mainstream media broadcasters that will house Julian Assange.
00:01:15.000So even if you see Tucker Carlson At his worst, even if you have a very negative perspective of him, like say, I've heard people say he's racist and that he's unsympathetic towards vulnerable people.
00:01:28.000How do we square that with, you know, you ain't getting any other mainstream show saying, what are we going to do about Julian Assange?
00:01:56.000Just that, I don't know, we were accepting payments from Ukrainian energy firms, Chinese energy firms, some stuff about my private life, which I actually don't... I agree with him there.
00:02:45.000With the money that he was making, allegedly is it?
00:02:48.000I don't even think it is, from Burisma and those other companies, that he could have afforded multiple laptops.
00:02:55.000The real problem here is not the man in the Delaware laptop shop.
00:02:59.000It's a corrupt political system and it's keeping that story out of the news while it could potentially sway the outcome of an election.
00:03:07.000A charge for which Donald Trump, I don't know, we don't know, is he being pursued in a white bronco even now?
00:03:13.000Is Donald Trump in chains even as we speak?
00:03:15.000We'll get regular updates on the status of Donald Trump but it is, you know, using campaign funds And how that might pertain to the outcome of an election is what turns it from a misdemeanor into a felony.
00:04:10.000I don't have to flip open that hatch that they have on in cowboy films when they say you varmint and then they jump into their asses on fire for some reason and they get into the horse trough.
00:05:20.000I was unaware until Gareth mentioned it as a result of his own research that China have precedent for brokering complex peace deals in the Middle East.
00:06:08.000Of course you didn't, because you've not spent time studying Christianity in the way that I have.
00:06:14.000Generally speaking, even if China have their own worldview, their own agenda, which undoubtedly they do, if part of that agenda is brokering a peace deal, surely that's something that has to be considered.
00:06:23.000Let us know in the chat and the comments if you agree with that.
00:06:26.000The other worrying aspect of this, I suppose, is that if Zelensky has expressed openness to China's proposal, but it's been rejected by President Biden, Who is in charge of Ukraine and who is this war between?
00:06:38.000I mean, we've said proxy war for a long time, but if it's got to the situation where Zelensky's like, yeah, I'm kind of up for this and Biden says no, what is going on?
00:06:48.000Given that we've been continually told that this is not a proxy war, President Biden rejecting the peace deal is Is that what's happened? Can we look into this further? It
00:06:58.000doesn't seem right. Is Biden in a position to reject peace deals for a war that he's not in,
00:07:03.000that he's not involved in? The US involvement is measurable. It's something that we can
00:07:09.000observe. Of course it can be financially observed because we know that there is aid continually
00:07:15.000coming out of the United States in the form of packages from Raytheon, Lockheed Martin, etc.
00:07:20.000And we'll get into that in a moment, because this peace deal may have a few obstacles before it's realised.
00:07:26.000Because, you know, firstly, Biden is opposed to the peace deal, even though America are not involved in the world, other than just cheering from the sidelines.
00:07:35.000But also, it seems that Putin is not a person who finds handshakes that easy.
00:07:39.000I didn't know this right up until today.
00:07:42.000I always saw Putin as a self-assured, empowered man, as an alpha leader, as testosterone-fueled.
00:07:50.000Sure, I've seen the propaganda that he can't help crapping himself every half hour.
00:07:54.000Of course, I would agree that the devastation wreaked upon Ukraine is disgusting, and particularly after we read that list of war crimes the other day, and the degree of suffering is...
00:08:05.000Incomprehensible, actually, what's been going on.
00:08:07.000Those war crimes that the US has equally committed.
00:08:09.000The sad news is that every single war crime that Russia has committed in Ukraine, the United States have committed elsewhere since 1998.
00:08:17.000We were disgusted to find that out and concerned, and that's why they can't cooperate with the ICC attempt to arrest Putin for war crimes.
00:08:25.000But one thing that would make Putin Teflon in any attempt to arrest him is if the arrest Commenced with a handshake.
00:08:33.000Sir, on good faith, I'd like to arrest you.
00:09:39.000Don't speak out of turn about our meeting with the Carlsons for our attempt to bring together new alliances because we're politically astute people and we realise that you can't use the labels of left and right anymore.
00:09:50.000You have to look at it as centre and periphery, as I learned from Martin Gury, a man who I reference more often than my actual children.
00:09:57.000Let's have a look at Putin failing to shake hands again and again and again to a level that's I don't know, he's worrying really.
00:10:04.000I think they might actually be setting up with him.
00:11:49.000I don't want to reveal that my Jordan Peterson impression comes from a Kermit impression, so I'm going to stop right there and have a look at Putin bungling social norms.
00:13:18.000My mate said that the other people there all did that one, letting Eminem lead the way, but then he forced Eminem out of that one into that one.
00:13:25.000He wasn't saying that like he was on IARD.
00:13:28.000He was saying... I don't know why he did it.
00:13:30.000He forced a British handshake on Eminem.
00:13:52.000There's so many powerful, these people.
00:13:53.000These are the world's most powerful people.
00:13:55.000They're either atrophying, cadaverous presidents of the United States who can't remember the sentence they started by the time they're six words in.
00:14:02.000They're Putin, who can't carry out a normal social interaction like a handshake.
00:14:05.000There's Kim Jong-un, who, like, what I will credit him with is he's switched off from reality, isn't he?
00:15:23.000It would be better, like we're disgusted aren't we by that, but it would be better that they did that if world leaders were put in a room and said make love with each other until you come up with a viable solution to this endless war.
00:15:50.000If you're watching this on YouTube we're going to click over in a minute.
00:15:52.000Remember we're going to talk about how gain of function, not actually gain of function, how amalgamations of variants within the coronavirus We're being irresponsibly amalgamated in City of London, right in the very midst of the pandemic.
00:19:23.000Here's some terrifying facts about the Iraq War before presenting to you Julian Assange's long-cherished edict that the function of war is to funnel money from you, the taxpayer, and us, the public, to private interests.
00:19:39.000So, during the Iraq War, in the last 20 years, money spent on weapons has doubled to nearly $2 trillion a year.
00:19:57.000If you're English, you'd know that Northrop Grumman sounds like a Yorkshireman who's, like, selling weapons as part of... He's a bit part clown or creatures great and small.
00:20:06.000It sounds like a place I would have worked as a teenager.
00:21:09.000You have to acknowledge also that the Iraq war was not a popular war at the time.
00:21:14.000It was a war in all good, on a lie, on a deception.
00:21:18.000The deception being, of course, that there were weapons of mass destruction.
00:21:21.000Millions of people protested in the street.
00:21:23.000It was a pivotal moment in our history.
00:21:25.000You should look at our conversation with Glenn Greenwald that we had a couple of days ago.
00:21:29.000He gives a beautiful description how the events of 2003 and the events of 2008 still define the world that we are living in.
00:21:37.000Perhaps, you know, like I suppose since 9-11 it's been a surveillance state.
00:21:43.000Only thanks to figures like Julian Assange and his bravery are we even aware of many of the atrocities that took place in that war and that's of course why he's in Belmarsh prison to this day without Ever having had a trial.
00:21:56.000It doesn't seem right that someone's in a maximum security prison without a trial.
00:22:11.000And I remember reading about Clinton, Hillary Clinton, this was and in terms of that quote that we saw of her recently post Iraq, where she spoke about Iraq as a business opportunity for American interests.
00:22:23.000She did literally a speech where she was talking about it as a business interest.
00:22:26.000And then you discovered the people who made a lot of money out of it.
00:22:29.000Some were, you know, weapons manufacturers, others were energy companies, all incredibly donated to the Hillary Clinton Foundation.
00:22:38.000If you're watching this on YouTube, we're going to tell you about Landon Tan and their ludicrous experimentations that went on even at the height of the coronavirus pandemic.
00:22:48.000And we are going to give you some unique insights into the life of Hillary Clinton directly from Alex Jones.
00:22:55.000So click over, right now, if you want to hear them.
00:24:25.000Now that you've joined us over here and we're unable to feed you any Alex Jones-style information about the private business of Hillary Clinton, which, frankly, I don't mind about.
00:24:33.000In fact, I have no personal dislike of any member of Any family, anywhere.
00:24:40.000Just what I feel like they are good at helping us understand is how politics functions, how there's sort of aristocracies within various political parties in the United States of America, that they're undemocratic, that it's pretty well understood now that within the Democratic Party they scuppered the campaign of Bernie Sanders because they wouldn't be able to stay true to their paymasters if Bernie got elected.
00:25:02.000And I know loads of you don't like Bernie because you think he's got too many houses or stuff like that.
00:25:06.000And I did hear when I was on Bill Maher the other day, there was a bit where he goes, you know, no, you've got to have centralised forces.
00:25:12.000And I thought, hang on, what's that all about?
00:25:16.000I mean, could that be a centralised response that is positive and democratic rather than unelected bodies like the WHO, WEF, all that kind of stuff.
00:25:24.000All I think about Bernie Sanders, he's got a hell of a lot better policies than, for example, Hillary Clinton.
00:25:30.000You wouldn't argue with that, would you?
00:25:33.000And while you're thinking about, you know, moving around deck chairs on the Titanic with different political figures within established political movements that are funded in exactly the same way, we'll tell you this.
00:25:48.000Right in the middle of that pandemic, when we were concerned about how it came about, how it was going to end, what the proper response was, whether people were being honest about vaccine medications and the consequences of them, In London, where the Queen was living at that time.
00:26:43.000That's what I'd feel if I found out Her Majesty the Queen was compromised because of these experiments.
00:26:48.000Well, look, while they were naysaying the potential for that lab leak coming out of Wuhan, Quibbling that it would be of natural origin regardless if it went via a bloody lab with the newly emergent raccoon dog magic bullet theory, courtesy of Anthony Fauci.
00:27:08.000Did you know that they were carrying on with what I'm going to refer to obliquely as scientific skullduggery in London?
00:27:15.000British experiments risk making the COVID pandemic more lethal.
00:27:19.000You shouldn't be doing any experiments where there's even the slightest risk Of making it more lethal.
00:28:06.000It's a dystopian, centralised, authoritarian nightmare.
00:28:10.000And another thing that came out of the conversation with Glenn Greenwald is that oligarchs just a century ago Greenwald charmingly described would toss dollar bills from their passing limousine in an attempt to curry favour with the great unwashed in post-Dust Bowl America.
00:28:39.000Yeah, we've got connections with the government, we've got connections with social media companies, we can basically rewrite the narrative.
00:29:22.000I'm trying to just shine love out of my heart into your hearts.
00:29:25.000Now, Julian Assange, we told you about Julian Assange believes that the function of government is to filter public money into the hands of private organisations.
00:29:34.000We're going to have a look at Julian saying that, and then we're going to talk to our guest Dave Smith, who's an advocate for anti-war and host of the Part of the Problem podcast, who will, I believe, strongly agree with that metric, because he believes in as little government as possible, being, as I understand, a libertarian.
00:29:51.000Because the goal is not to completely subjugate Afghanistan.
00:29:55.000The goal is to use Afghanistan to wash money out of the tax bases of the United States, out of the tax bases of European countries, through Afghanistan, and back into the hands of a transnational security alliance.
00:30:30.000And one year now of the ongoing conflict between Ukraine and Russia, all the terrible deaths incurred, particularly, you know, Ukraine, who are obviously under attack.
00:31:19.000I don't know if that's the only motivating factor. I think sometimes they also wanted, you
00:31:25.000know, they might also want to say tank Donald Trump's chances of getting re-elected, but
00:31:30.000their pharmaceutical companies are also raking in profits. I think they did want to overthrow Saddam
00:31:35.000Hussein for other reasons, but that's definitely part of it. Dave, with the ICC
00:31:40.000announcing that it is their bizarre intention to arrest Vladimir Putin, a man who I don't
00:31:45.000imagine would cooperate with an ordinary arrest. Although having seen him attempt to shake hands, I
00:31:51.000can see that if you were to approach him from the front, he could be vulnerable.
00:31:54.000What do you feel about the war in Syria and the bombing of Yemen, which indicts Biden, Trump and Obama all as war criminals to the same standard of Putin, the same standard by which Putin is being charged?
00:32:13.000I mean, I think it far exceeds it if we're just being objective.
00:32:17.000I mean, Ukraine is a catastrophe and Putin has a lot of responsibility for that, so he doesn't have all the responsibility.
00:32:25.000But the humanitarian crisis in Yemen is objectively, if that's a catastrophe, this is a catastrophe times ten.
00:32:33.000And it wasn't soldiers dying over the last eight years in Yemen, it was like babies starving to death and dying of cholera and stuff.
00:32:41.000Yeah, look, there's a great video, I don't know if you've ever seen, where Noam Chomsky just breaks down the war crimes of every post-World War II president of the United States of America.
00:32:50.000So, like, I'm fine if we want to indict war criminals, but let's get them all, you know?
00:32:55.000And you see something like, if you look at Yemen particularly, you just see how much Like, the whole military-industrial complex, American empire establishment, they care about humanitarian issues when it's convenient.
00:33:10.000You don't see every day in the corporate press people talking about the humanitarian crisis in Yemen, or in Palestine, or in Syria, or in Somalia.
00:33:21.000But we do see the one on Russia's border that we can blame on Russia.
00:33:26.000That's the one that they hyper-focus on.
00:33:31.000And even when we raise these points, we are often smeared.
00:33:35.000And it's difficult not to assume, even though it seems reductive, even when I'm saying it, that the financial benefits of these conflicts are the determining factor.
00:33:45.000and the alliances between the military-industrial complex and the media and the government
00:33:50.000are what determine the way these stories are presented, because you're right.
00:33:53.000If that were not the case, you would hear as much about Yemen,
00:33:57.000you would hear as much about other conflicts.
00:33:58.000If the metric by which we measured catastrophe was deaths and destruction,
00:34:04.000and nobody's saying that those things are not present in the tragedy in Ukraine
00:34:08.000and that it oughtn't be stopped as quickly as possible, but other criminals would be brought to the forefront as
00:34:15.000In our recent show we talked about the lack of moral authority for any agency that would Seek to arrest Trump.
00:34:23.000That's not saying that Trump isn't guilty of wrongdoing.
00:34:25.000In fact, we're ignoring that altogether, because if Trump is guilty, then, you know, the Clinton campaign will be guilty by the same measure.
00:34:32.000But what we're saying is that the lack of faith in institutions that we are currently experiencing means that we clearly need systemic change.
00:34:42.000Am I right in understanding, Dave, that that's precisely your personal perspective And if you are a libertarian, and I know you are, I'm just using this rhetorically, what is the role of government?
00:34:54.000How minimal can government involvement in the lives of ordinary Americans, ordinary people of all persuasions, be?
00:35:02.000And do you not agree that the role of the government and the function of the government is supposed to be to, in a sense, provide some kind of edifice against corporate corruption, even if it Obviously doesn't do that now.
00:35:20.000I mean, well, I think I'd like the government to be about as small as we could possibly get it.
00:35:24.000And I think from my perspective, the idea that the government was ever supposed to be a shield for the people against big corporate interests, as always, there might be some people who really believe that.
00:35:35.000I think in reality it has never been that and it's always been, you know, much more a tool for big money interests than anything that was ever working against them.
00:35:46.000And if you ever see, anytime that you ever saw the government working against big business, it was almost always on behalf of some other big business who wanted their competition stomped out.
00:35:56.000It's like power corrupts and there's nothing more powerful than a government.
00:36:00.000And so if you're saying that you need the government To check the power of a corporation.
00:36:05.000Well, in order to do that, it's going to have to be more powerful than that corporation.
00:36:08.000And so now, once you have this power center, it's going to become a race to see who can buy it off and, and who's going to have a better shot of doing that than the biggest businesses.
00:36:18.000So I think the whole paradigm, like you talked earlier about like the left, right paradigm being all kind of like, it doesn't really apply anymore.
00:36:25.000I think that basically it's not a question of like, are you anti big business or anti big government?
00:36:31.000I think if you oppose one, you have to oppose the other because they're all in bed together.
00:36:35.000And, you know, just to touch on what you said there about the kind of like getting called all the names because you oppose the war, you know, on this anniversary of Iraq, just remember that the people who were opposed to this war, the war in Iraq, the line back then was, you're either with us or you're with the terrorists.
00:36:52.000They basically said, if you don't want to overthrow Saddam Hussein, then you're happy that 9-11 happened.
00:36:59.000And now, years later, even John McCain, on his deathbed in his memoir, wrote that he acknowledged the war was a mistake.
00:37:06.000Everyone now acknowledges that those people were right to oppose the war.
00:37:09.000So just to keep that in mind with all the people, they'll call you a Putin-apologist or something like that now if you oppose the West's involvement in the war in Ukraine.
00:37:19.000But yeah, the whole thing is a racket, and it's all big business interests that control the governments.
00:37:25.000That's really interesting that you say that, mate.
00:37:29.000That it plainly was a transgressive war and the way, and I didn't remember that, that they said, yeah, that they equated it with terror, made it unpatriotic and made it like you were dishonoring those that died on 9-11.
00:37:44.000And now, even if you're non-compliant around coronavirus, remember there was the same kind of shaming narrative that, like as if you were a friend of coronavirus, like you're its little mate carrying it about and stuff.
00:37:57.000It's weird, the role, the palette that it's drawn from.
00:38:01.000Even though sometimes we think of these systems as sophisticated, secular and of course by their nature political, the game they're playing is emotional.
00:38:08.000They're dealing with things like shame and fear and sort of destroying your personal ability to live life, you know?
00:38:17.000So I can understand I appreciate libertarianism from that perspective.
00:38:21.000I think a lot of attacks that I hear on libertarianism is that it's somehow disavowing communal responsibility and collective power.
00:38:30.000But I don't believe that those things should be imposed by some centralized agency anyway.
00:38:49.000But how do you square it with the idea that we're here to take care of and love one another?
00:38:54.000Yeah, so from my perspective, it's like the complete opposite of that criticism of libertarianism.
00:38:59.000I think we're empowering the community.
00:39:01.000I mean, the idea that, like, libertarians aren't arguing that people shouldn't join groups and help each other and do things as a community.
00:39:10.000We're arguing that it should be done voluntarily, that it shouldn't be done through force, that you shouldn't... Every inch of government is there with the threat of a gun to your head.
00:39:20.000It's like you pay your taxes or you go to jail.
00:39:23.000Every law has a gun behind it saying you violate this and we will throw you in a cage.
00:39:28.000It's really insane when you think about it, how advanced modern human civilization is, and that we still will throw human beings in a cage like an animal for ridiculous crimes.
00:39:41.000No, I mean, okay, I'm, you know, yeah, if you if you murder someone or rape someone or, you know, stab someone or, you know, upset someone's house on fire, okay, fine.
00:39:50.000You kind of think still we could find something better.
00:39:52.000But regardless of that, the idea of like, funding this monopoly on violence at the threat of will ruin your life.
00:40:00.000And it's such a binary to say, oh, if we didn't do it that way, Then there'd be no community, then no one would care about taking care of the sick, or no one would think about like, oh, there's someone who's hard on their luck, we have to help them out.
00:40:12.000I don't believe that these people, these genocidal maniacs, these blood-soaked monsters, are like, the only way we would make sure grandma had a sandwich is if they're funded.
00:40:26.000Because actually, that sort of misanthropic assumption is what underwrites centralised and legal authority anyway.
00:40:34.000The assumption that if you leave people alone, you know what they're going to do?
00:40:36.000They're going to run into the streets and start masturbating and killing each other.
00:40:39.000That's like the idea that legitimises the state power.
00:40:42.000I suppose early sovereign power was underwritten by the idea of protection.
00:40:46.000There are bandits, there are threats, there are dangers.
00:40:49.000If you give the king your taxes, the king will protect you from those threats.
00:40:54.000But it's mutated into something extraordinary.
00:40:56.000And it's pretty obvious that even the most unquestioned version of democracy is laughable in 2023, that you need a representative to go 400 miles or whatever on horseback to tell the central authority this is what this parish believes it's antiquated and it's irrelevant and it's only being kept alive because it's beneficial to the kind of state and corporate interest that you rightly diagnose as being a kind of hybrid hydra and as you said very eloquently Dave a blood-soaked monster
00:41:27.000Dave, thank you so much for joining us for this conversation.
00:41:30.000I hope we get to have many more like it.
00:41:32.000Dave Smith is an advocate for anti-war and clearly an advocate for freedom, host of Part of the Problem podcast, which you can find wherever you find podcasts.
00:42:06.000What I think, mate, is the same way that anarchism would be attacked and libertarianism is attacked, same way that socialism is attacked, they all are subject to smear campaigns from the existing system.
00:42:20.000But I reckon probably what's also true is there's the potential for unquestioned utopianism as well.
00:42:27.000Hold on, how are these things going to work?
00:42:29.000If we're serious about changing the world, we probably have to have conversations about how we're going to reorganise it.
00:42:33.000I do agree, keep governments small, keep communities small, keep them autonomous, keep them democratic, leave people alone has got to be one of the first principles.
00:42:43.000Like I say to my kids, either be nice to each other or leave each other alone!
00:42:51.000All right, well, listen, we've got plenty more time.
00:42:53.000We've got the rest of our lives to come to some conclusions, which might not be long because it seems that people are advocating for a global holy war.
00:42:59.000So that would get in the way, of course.
00:43:01.000Tomorrow's show is promising to be a banger because we got Graham Hancock from the hit Netflix series Ancient Apocalypse He's coming on to talk about arcane civilizations, psychedelics.
00:43:15.000If you entered our competition, you could be here at Stay Free HQ.
00:43:19.000If you're a member of our locals community, you can be online while we're having the conversation, sticking your oar in, you know, asking Graham questions.
00:44:05.000A bit less chat chat and a bit more that that from you Graham, my man.
00:44:10.000A bit less comic could have hit the earth and called a cataclysmic event and there's water erosion on the pyramid and a bit more noshy noshy.