This week on Thursday Roundup: Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg try to convince the public that they re better than each other, a hacked crosswalk in California plays fake messages from Musk and Zuckerberg, a man shouts "Come on England" at a pro-Palestine march in England, and Russell Brand explains why he thinks the police should be allowed to chant "Come On England" in public.
00:05:13.000I fully agree that you should be able to have a pro-Palestine march.
00:05:17.000If you're concerned about what's going on in Gaza and the West Bank and the numerous ways that that issue could be resolved and the violence and murder and madness to cease, I really support the rights of people in that conflict to have their voices heard and supported.
00:05:35.000I also think that in England you should be able to say, come on England.
00:07:30.000As headed in a serpentine direction, man.
00:07:33.000If you live in a country where you can protest and have free speech, which has obviously got to be the aim and the ideal, you can't persecute and punish the indigenous population for expressing old-school patriotism.
00:07:44.000Can you have the kind of patriotism that not so long ago was an absolute necessity if you needed people to die on battlefields across Europe in order to stand up for a thing called a nation?
00:07:53.000What we're witnessing is the spasming, I reckon, of the end of national identity.
00:08:00.000Globalism has pushed so hard, broken so many people.
00:08:03.000We learned that in the pandemic period.
00:08:12.000I hope these are conversations we're going to be able to have.
00:08:15.000Let me know in the comments and chat what you think about it.
00:08:18.000Thanks very much, Mug Club and Timcast, for the raid.
00:08:22.000We'll be with you wherever you're watching this, YouTube, X or whatever, for another 20 minutes as we talk about important issues like, indeed, this one.
00:08:30.000Like, you know, if you're a parent, you know that your kids are basically addicted to screens.
00:11:11.000I'm about to board my flight for San Salvador.
00:11:14.000The goal of this mission is to let the Trump administration, to let the government of El Salvador know that we are going to keep fighting to bring Albrego Garcia home until he returns to his family.
00:11:29.000I hope to meet with representatives of the government.
00:11:32.000I hope to have the chance to actually see Kilmar and see what his condition is.
00:11:37.000But we are going to keep fighting because this is a miscarriage of justice.
00:11:42.000The Supreme Court has ruled nine to zero, nine to zero, that he was illegally taken out of the country and put in a prison in El Salvador.
00:11:58.000What bullies do is they begin by picking on the most vulnerable.
00:12:02.000But if we get rid of the rule of law, due process, the United States, it's a short road from there to tyranny.
00:12:09.000It's really interesting to maneuver between platitudinous observations like bullies pick on the most vulnerable into complex legislation around deportation, when in general it seems that the American population elected Donald Trump in part to control.
00:12:23.000Borders and that there was a deep concern that some of the people that were illegally in America, illegally in America, might have criminal records.
00:12:30.000It's extraordinary that this case is being taken up.
00:12:33.000What I feel sometimes is that if you were to live by the principles you're espousing when taking a position like our man's taken there, which is, I can see the morality and the ethics in that.
00:12:42.000He's saying that absolutely you have to stick up for people.
00:12:54.000It seems to me, as a foreigner in your land, with a green card, that America's in a lot of trouble, that there's a lot of division, that there's a lot of doubt, there's a lot of concern, consternation, and I feel like as a citizen of the world, there are so many crises that are not being addressed.
00:13:09.000What is it about this particular case and this particular individual that's captured the imagination of the world?
00:13:13.000You know, like when there's some sort of particular and individual story, whether it's the death of George Floyd or the arrest of Carl Rittenhouse, that sort of captures the public imagination.
00:13:22.000It's obviously because somehow packed into that issue is a story, a myth, a logos, an image that the nation is wrestling with.
00:13:54.000He's governing and he's governing, generally speaking, in a way that he said he would.
00:13:58.000I don't know if you would say that's absolutely true when it comes to ending the Ukraine war, actions and ongoing war in the Middle East, whether or not enough's been done at the HHS around stuff like vaccines.
00:14:07.000There are loads and loads and loads of questions.
00:14:10.000But in a way, for me, all of these symptoms are indicators that there needs to be radical, deep change.
00:14:15.000An incredibly resourceful, intrepid and deep review of what America means as a nation.
00:14:21.000And the same is obviously true of my country, the United Kingdom, that appears to be in despondency and despair and falling apart, arresting people for essentially being English on the street.
00:14:31.000Once being English is a crime, then we're all criminals.
00:14:34.000Certainly that's one of the markers of authoritarianism, to make vague and opaque the laws around what crimes are.
00:14:41.000And what constitutes criminality in order that particular individuals and particular cases can be pursued.
00:14:48.000What we're living in is a crisis of authority.
00:14:51.000So many people in the UK hate their government.
00:14:53.000But then look, in America, so many people in the United States hate their current government.
00:14:56.000I'm talking to the few people watching this now that are not MAGA, MAHA supporters.
00:15:04.000We're going to live continually in this tension, ignoring that there might be a way through this that might enhance all of our experience, that might somehow be in alignment with something deeper and more truthful than the mad and giddy fluctuations of a culture that seems to be controlled by forces that,
00:15:55.000What arguments can be made for the return of your man there if the president of El Salvador, the country that he's from, and Donald Trump, the country that he was illegally in, agree with what the solution is?
00:16:07.000It's a really interesting moral dilemma.
00:16:25.000Two courts, an immigration court and an appellate immigration court, ruled that he was a member of MS-13 and he was illegally in our country.
00:16:35.000Right now, it was additional paperwork that needed to be done.
00:16:40.000That's up to El Salvador if they want to return him.
00:16:45.000The Supreme Court ruled, President, that if, as El Salvador wants to return him, this is international matters, foreign affairs, if they wanted to return him, We would facilitate it, meaning provide a plane.
00:17:02.000Thank you Also respond to that question because you know it's asked by CNN and they always ask it with a slant Because they're totally slant because they don't know what's happening That's why nobody's watching them, but would you answer that question
00:17:17.000also? Yes, gladly so this pan mentioned there's a legal alien from
00:17:24.000So, with respect to you, he's a citizen of El Salvador.
00:17:28.000So, it's very arrogant even for American media to suggest that we would even tell El Salvador how to handle their own citizens as a starting point.
00:17:37.000Two immigration courts found that he was a member of MS-13.
00:17:41.000When President Trump declared MS-13 to be a foreign terrorist organization, That meant that he was no longer eligible under federal law, which I'm sure you know, you're very familiar with the INA, that he was no longer eligible for any form of immigration relief in the United States.
00:17:56.000So he had a deportation order that was valid, which meant that under our law, he's not even allowed to be present in the United States and had to be returned because of the foreign terrorist designation.
00:18:08.000This issue was then, by a district court judge, Completely inverted.
00:18:13.000And a district court judge tried to tell the administration that they had to kidnap a citizen of El Salvador and fly him back here.
00:18:20.000That issue was raised to the Supreme Court.
00:18:22.000And the Supreme Court said the district court order was unlawful and its main components were reversed 9-0 unanimously, stating clearly that neither...
00:18:32.000Secretary of State, nor the President could be compelled by anybody to forcibly retrieve a citizen of El Salvador from El Salvador, who, again, is a member of MS-13, which, as I'm sure you understand, rapes little girls, murders women, murders children,
00:18:48.000is engaged in the most barbaric activities in the world, and I can promise you, if he was your neighbor, you would move right away.
00:18:53.000So you don't plan to ask for any help to get him back?
00:18:56.000And what was the ruling in the Supreme Court, Steve?
00:19:02.000In our favor, against the district court ruling, saying that no district court has the power to compel the foreign policy function of the United States.
00:19:10.000As Pam said, the ruling solely stated that if this individual at El Salvador's sole discretion was sent back to our country, that we could deport him a second time.
00:19:20.000No version of this legally ends up with him ever living here because he is a citizen of El Salvador.
00:19:35.000We're all picking moral positions based on our previous biases, prejudices, and the coaching of whatever media alliances we've joined, sometimes unconsciously, and however we've been coached to think.
00:19:52.000And before we leave you guys on X and you don't want to go yet because we're going to review Minecraft and talk about the chicken jockey sensation and that sort of phenomena and the madness of crowds, the madness of crowds, man, when we get exterior in us, we can cause all
00:20:08.000It's weird that we do tend to do that in order to celebrate sort of weird sort of memes rather than political ideas but we'll be doing that in a minute but first here's a message.
00:21:17.000Even those who haven't been vaccinated are suffering symptoms due to exposure through shedding and mRNA being injected into our livestock, even USDA-certified organic meats.
00:21:26.000Protect yourself and do that by strengthening the balance of good and bad bacteria in your gut.
00:21:30.000It's got to be a balance between good and evil, yeah?
00:23:11.000And the news clip that I provided for you to play and we'll watch, people were not only, like, throwing popcorn and destroying the place, but people are bringing bottles of lotion.
00:23:20.000I don't know why the hell they're bringing lotion.
00:26:39.000A child zombie who rides a chicken, of course.
00:26:42.000This morning, that craze around chicken jockeys causing one movie theater in New Jersey to take matters into its own hands, instituting a new policy.
00:26:51.000Minors will now have to have a parent or responsible adult with them if they want The township theater in Bergen County writing in a statement that a group of boys engaged in completely unacceptable behavior, including vandalism.
00:27:06.000They also received multiple complaints from other moviegoers who were trying to enjoy the film with their families.
00:27:12.000It's so mental, isn't it, that we're so on the edge of chaos continually that it just takes, like, chicken jockey, which you explain to me, Luke, it's just like it's a niche thing in Minecraft world that you'd only know about if you really cared about Minecraft, which I don't, because of the age I am and everything.
00:27:45.000The hype of a group of people freaking out for something niche, and it gets on video, and then they put it on TikTok.
00:27:51.000Then another group wants to do it, and then another group wants to do it.
00:27:53.000I mean, I even remember with, I think it was Despicable Me, some people would show up in theaters to watch it all wearing suits, and then it became this thing where everybody started doing that.
00:28:02.000And so I think this is just another example of group hype, essentially.
00:28:06.000Do you know like in our country, Britain, in like the 19th century, there was some craze for like running into pubs and going like...
00:28:16.000Like your thumb, like thumb your nose at people.
00:28:18.000And it got so out of hand that people had...
00:28:26.000I think it's like that all of us are so restricted and constrained and overwhelmed and sort of like pissed off and like, oh, I don't know how many genders are there again.
00:30:17.000Even watching that British guy, say, in England, in that crowd, it reminded me of when I used to go to anarchist protests in the UK that were very left-wing, a union one in support of dockers, various black bloc movements that would reclaim the streets.
00:30:44.000Anyway, like, during that, there was, like, one kid, like, a lot of them were very idealistic, like, people wearing black masks and sort of all covered up, like, very much the beginnings of, like...
00:31:12.000That's the energy that can sort of change the world.
00:31:15.000If the energy that's generated by that Minecraft chicken jockey moment was directed towards, for example, truly new systems of organising community, and I know it's hard because that's not a chaotic idea, it's a pretty boring and bureaucratic one,
00:31:33.000And it is interesting to sort of note that whether it's something like you said, Massey, that feels like idealistically significant, like racial equality or gender equality or whatever from across the spectrum, you know, pro-life, pro-choice,
00:31:49.000people can get worked up about like Minecraft, man.
00:31:53.000I think young people are meant to rally around each other and get fired up about things.
00:32:01.000We've got a bunch of young men who are sitting around masturbating, getting high, playing PS5 all day instead of spearfishing.
00:32:10.000The reason we've got young people that are getting fired up about Minecraft movie and putting all their energy into something like that is because that is what they do all day.
00:32:17.000They spend their time in front of a screen, masturbating, playing PS5 all day.
00:32:21.000And that's just a result of that mentality, I think.
00:32:23.000Yeah, that's their mindset and that's their world.
00:32:27.000That's what they're spending their time staring at and therefore investing in.
00:32:31.000And when I did do that, you know, and that's what I was doing when I was equivalent ages, jerking off, smoking weed, all that stuff.
00:32:44.000I don't know if I'd have been able to resist it if they were as good as they are now.
00:32:47.000But when I did something like spearfishing, I want to be clear, I never even got to the point where I could handle the harpoon because I found it too hard to put the mask on.
00:32:56.000But the bits that I did, I was like, man, if you had competence in something like this, the discipline required to keep the boat in the right...
00:33:04.000Order, to get the wetsuit on, to get the stuff on, to get your mask on, then to swim down vertically 50 feet and shoot a fish.
00:33:11.000You would be living a life that had meaning.
00:33:21.000And like Jordan Peterson said, if everything is God, then anything is God.
00:33:25.000If anything can be exciting, like if everything is exciting, then anything.
00:33:29.000You can find yourself hysterical about a bloody little Frankenstein thing on a chicken just because, as you said, Luke, all their attention is getting pointed out.
00:33:42.000It makes me think, here we are, we're trying to talk about political and cultural ideas, and actually people would be just as interested if we played Minecraft or got our bums out, I mean butts in American.
00:33:53.000Massey, maybe that's what we should do for the next episode.
00:33:57.000I think it's pretty interesting that, like, what else could you get kids to do in a movie theatre?
00:34:02.000Maybe this is some, like, psy-op from China or something.
00:34:05.000If you can get them to go crazy and smash up a movie theatre just by showing something on screen.
00:34:09.000What could they do with TikTok one day?
00:34:11.000They just do something, a bunch of kids are together, and they start actually smashing shit up.
00:34:14.000Maybe we'll look back at this moment in history.
00:34:17.000You know how people always say, oh, they'll look back and say, World War III was started when they took the Donbass region, or it was on October 7th.
00:34:26.000Maybe they'll look back at this and go, oh, the big revolution started during that Minecraft movie thing.
00:34:30.000That was the first one of those things that happened.
00:34:34.000It's an MKUltra plot to see if you can implant, like, hypnotic signals, at which point everyone rises up.
00:34:40.000You know when you read those things where they say all of the illegal immigrants are actually, they're all fighting aged males.
00:34:45.000They're all actually members of an army.
00:34:47.000At some point, there's going to be just some image that's going to flash up, and they're all going to go, right, you're all under arrest!
00:34:53.000Native populations of Anglophonic countries!
00:34:56.000All of you round them up into some sort of convenient Minecraft prison.
00:35:00.000It's not a bad theory, it's a pretty good one.
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00:37:12.000I keep belching and not feeling very well.
00:37:14.000Perhaps that's because I simply don't have enough Korean kimchi down in my belly.
00:37:17.000We've all noticed now that the subjects of diet, wellness, health, and nutrition are very flexible, amorphous topics indeed.
00:37:24.000Is Bobby Kennedy going to be able to curtail the excesses of the pharmaceutical industry?
00:37:28.000Are we going to be able to just eat healthy?
00:37:30.000Or are we going to turn into a welfare state where people are using food, coke, coupons, just to drink sugary drinks, staring dumbly at a screen till a chicken jockey appears?
00:37:40.000Next guest for whom I'm going to change my costume, Kim Bright, is hopeful that a blend of Christianity and fermented foods are going to bring us to a healthier America.
00:37:55.000Kim, I understand that you feel that we're at a pivotal moment when it comes to Bobby Kennedy's power and implementation of that power, that we're in a significant moment for...
00:38:09.000Where potentially changes could take place at the level of government, but there is still opposition to it, even though you would argue, perhaps anyone would argue, that Trump's the most powerful man in the world now.
00:38:19.000He's in office with an incredible mandate.
00:38:53.000I mean, it's the SNL skit they did on Donald Jesus Trump, and it's Easter week.
00:39:00.000It infuriated me that they're going to that length.
00:39:04.000And it's just terrible how they're attacking people that are truth-tellers, that want to put in godly moral codes and live right and eat right, and they're attacking that.
00:40:38.000Christianity is where, you know, most Christians would believe it belongs, at the forefront of people's mind, particularly at such a significant moment in the calendar, the week leading into Easter, Holy Week.
00:40:50.000And I would say that, in a way, fine, SNL are going to be, you know, critical or blasphemous.
00:40:58.000Me, as a sort of a believer in free speech, I would say...
00:41:01.000I would never blaspheme myself, unless by accident, but I reckon that SNL should be allowed to if they want to, although I haven't seen the sketch myself yet.
00:41:11.000Yeah, well, I believe in free speech too, but to me, when you do those kind of things, you're tearing the country apart.
00:41:21.000And we have to really look at the intentions of people, you know, if they really, you know, what the actual intention is and what will be the outcome.
00:41:29.000And I think with RFK Jr., his intention is to expose all the poisons that have been put in our food.
00:41:36.000He's being attacked for, you know, telling the truth.
00:41:45.000All of the dangers of the vaccinations of the MNRA, you know, nobody's, you know, they're still being ignored.
00:41:51.000And, you know, just because if you didn't get vaccinated doesn't mean you're avoiding, you know, getting the shedding and everything else there.
00:41:59.000And he's, you know, I think that he really is going to change things.
00:42:03.000And I think that we've got to change things in the food.
00:42:11.000In our meats, in our poultry, they're inserting it into the food supply because they think that's the good thing to do.
00:42:19.000But really what it is, is let's, you know, let the cattle, the chickens and everything, have more room to roam and fix their guts.
00:42:27.000I mean, just recently, they're starting to use seaweed, which is loaded with minerals, to help with cow flatulation, where they thought all the methane was coming from, when it's actually from their burping.
00:42:39.000So the answers are really back in nature, what God put on the planet, not in, you know, all these chemicals and vaccinations.
00:42:50.000I believe that if we eat as God intended and we eat organically and we clean up our skies and our water and our food supply, which I think RFK Jr. is really going to do, we are going to have much better health all the way around.
00:43:20.000Shedding is when you're near somebody that has had the vaccination and they cough on you or they cough near you or they speak and it actually comes out and you have sex with them.
00:43:43.000Possibly people should wear masks as well.
00:43:45.000Hopefully those masks will protect people.
00:43:48.000What a delicious irony and what a journey we're going on.
00:43:50.000I've heard people talk before about the potential that the vaccines might have a reach even beyond those that, you know, volunteered, and I use that word loosely, to take them.
00:44:00.000Look, I would have thought that the fact that, even though I know that Bobby Kennedy is subject to a pretty vicious attack, and even though that Trump is criticised, I don't know that there's probably anyone in history that's been better suited to absorb attack than Donald Trump.
00:44:18.000He's an extraordinary individual in just that measure alone.
00:44:52.000But also, we have to understand there are other forces at work.
00:44:55.000And I believe that Trump has the hand of God on him.
00:44:58.000So I think ultimately, things will work out in that direction.
00:45:02.000But I think it's not going to be an easy road to hoe because you're talking about the other people that what's important to them is power and money.
00:45:10.000They're not concerned about people's health.
00:45:12.000They're not concerned about what the end result is with our health.
00:45:39.000And when you hear something over and over and over again, it goes in as truth.
00:45:43.000And so people have to disabuse themselves of those ideas that we've heard over generations and really understand that true health is, you know, it all starts in your gut.
00:45:54.00070 to 80% of your immune system is in your gut.
00:45:58.000And we have that microbiome in our gut that needs to stay healthy.
00:46:02.000We've got to have a good balance there of good guys and bad guys, just like the soil.
00:46:07.000But with pouring all the poisons in the soil, herbicides, pesticides, those destroy the microbiome in the soil.
00:46:15.000So if we raise plants out of sick soil, we don't get healthy.
00:46:21.000And so we need to have a way to grow organically and have the plants have a very...
00:46:28.000Diverse microbiome in their soil so we can get that diverse microbiome in us, which is the good guys outweigh the bad guys, the fungus, the molds, the yeast, the parasites.
00:46:40.000So paying attention to our gut is very important to our health because the gut is where everything starts.
00:47:09.000That thing you said about microbiome being in the soil sounds like really close to ecological and permacultural arguments that used to sort of, for a minute, be sort of a left-wing position.
00:47:21.000Because when I think about big agriculture and industrial agriculture and how big agriculture intersects obviously with big food and the crises that farmers across the world, your country, my country, feel like they're facing usually because of top...
00:47:34.000I know that isn't the same agency that...
00:47:48.000Makes me realise that, in a sense, we need an ideology that's transcendent of the typical taxonomies of politics.
00:47:54.000It's gone way beyond left and right, and it's interesting to hear that by your reckoning there's some analogy that could be made between the health of soil and the health of the human gut.
00:48:05.000friends and have been for a long while with Vandana Shiva, who's an Indian scholar and activist who's opposed pretty vociferously and aggressively Bill Gates and his impact on agricultural practices in India, his attempts to patent and control seeds over there.
00:48:31.000And can you tell me how the broader agricultural arguments impact you, particularly because your capacity is a representative of kimchi 1, which I guess is a supplement that's derived from fermented foods.
00:48:48.000I've started taking this kimchi 1. What is the analogy and connection between what you just said about the soil and what you said about the gut?
00:49:01.000Because it sounds to me like the kind of thing that would be pretty difficult to reverse.
00:49:06.000Well, yes, it's going to be difficult to reverse because it's been going on for so long, but we have to start somewhere.
00:49:12.000And kimchi is a food that's been used for centuries in Korea, and it's a fermented food.
00:49:19.000And I've been helping people with their health for almost 50 years, Russell.
00:49:23.000And so this is very important to understand that one of the most important foods that you can eat, like you take kombucha, that's fermented.
00:49:31.000So we're supplying our gut with beneficial bacterias when we eat fermented foods.
00:49:37.000But kimchi has over 900 different probiotics, and it has these unique strains that aren't found in sauerkraut or kombucha or any other fermented foods.
00:49:48.000And so kimchi is the king of fermented foods, and we were able to take that.
00:49:54.000And put it in a capsule because Americans have very different palates and they smell things differently than the Koreans do.
00:50:02.000They're not used to eating kimchi every day to help their gut.
00:50:05.000And so by taking it in a capsule, it's convenient.
00:50:09.000And by taking it in a capsule, you don't smell or taste it.
00:50:12.000It has different chilies and garlics and gingers and shrimp paste and fermented cabbage and all these things in it that people aren't used to that smell in America, but yet they want the results from it.
00:51:08.000This is very good for obesity because they did studies on obesity and BMI and also on the actual gut microbiome because they took...
00:51:21.000And they saw that their waist circumference and their BMI went down significantly.
00:51:29.000This food is so vital and important to have on an everyday basis.
00:51:33.000It's going to boost your immune system, boost your metabolism, your energy levels, your blood sugar levels are changed.
00:51:41.000And people that have post-syndrome from taking the COVID shots, we've got some people that called us in and said that after they made the decision to take the COVID vaccine, they had strange lingering symptoms and they couldn't sleep.
00:52:54.000Do you feel like with Jay Bhattacharya now at the NIH and Marty Makari at the FDA and Dr. Oz running the CMS and Bobby Kennedy running the HHS, that different methods and measures and modalities like this will get a fair chance?
00:53:11.000Have you got anything that amounts to scientific evidence, particularly with pretty audacious claims like, you know, ending male pattern boredness, reducing, like helping people lose weight, reversing the impact of a vaccine?
00:54:50.000Yeah, I actually could feel something coming out of it that I weren't that sure of.
00:54:58.000You know, I'm interested in the results and I feel like, you know, I'm a person that won't take antibiotics now and this is a pretty serious situation.
00:55:12.000Not that I don't believe in the medical establishment, and I don't know loads and loads of brilliant doctors, like the doctors who saved my son's life through surgery, or the brilliant doctors that worked on my mum the many times that she had cancer, but that don't mean I foreclose on the possibility that my mum's cancer was likely caused by a combination of bad diet,
00:55:31.000bad media, and living in a very, very stressful environment.
00:55:35.000I feel like the kind of studies that don't get done, don't get done for a reason.
00:55:41.000Mate, earlier you talked about the fact that, in a sense, we've fallen to Luciferianism, and one of the passages from Scripture that you'll be familiar with that's often cited when discussing that is Ephesians, out of Ephesians 6 and Ephesians 6.12 specifically,
00:55:58.000for we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness.
00:56:08.000That's before St. Paul advocates for us wearing the full armor of God, as well as that sort of chapter, or at least verse, that seems to be saying that there are dark powers that control reality.
00:56:22.000I've heard some people say that descriptions of demonic and parasitic forces sound a lot like biological parasites.
00:56:33.000When there's talk of demonic forces, they have a physical component that they're not entirely spiritual and could be regarded as, you know, vampiric little entities, sucking awareness.
00:56:42.000I've burped a couple of times there, but that might be the kimchi.
00:57:02.000Do you think sometimes that there are scriptural verses that are describing biochemical realities that at that point they didn't have the ability to discern or observe?
00:57:51.000I can tell you now that it's made me burp some, but I hope that my gut biome is rearing up with the power of an archangel, even as we speak.
00:58:01.000Kim, it's good that your name's Kim, isn't it?
00:59:53.000Now, 4chan, you know, for me, is one of the sort of foundational online spaces from which emerged things like Keck and even, like, the Proud Boys and sort of right-wing thinking and ideals that have actually permeated all the way to the White House, some people would say.
01:00:12.000So, for instance, one of the things that was brought up was apparently some of the emails that were leaked according to the moderators belong to.gov accounts.
01:00:23.000And obviously, this I wanted to really get into.
01:00:26.000Were there people from the government inside 4chan?
01:00:29.000Wouldn't be a shock to me, because obviously, FET posting and, you know, federal agents going into organizations like this, and again, like, posting around, basically being undercover is not something unknown, alright?
01:00:40.000It's something that has happened in the past, verifiably so.
01:00:43.000So I wanted to look at one of the sources for this claim, and I think the source for this claim ended up coming from a board known as Incels.is.
01:00:51.000So according to one of the users here, did you see that the mods Jannies had their email addresses leaked?
01:01:00.000No wonder I've been banned literally hundreds of times from blueboards for racism.
01:01:04.000By the way, Jannies admit in their banned reports that they target users for not breaking the rules.
01:01:09.000It's a whole different language in a whole different world where people sort of proudly wear the term incels as kind of like a badge of honor.
01:01:18.000And the use of language, it reminds me of a time that I once gave a talk, I think, about knife crime or something to some youth group in London, and I realised that I just spoke a different language from those kids.
01:01:36.000Inside what appeared to be some of the actual discords for 4chan, one of the actual moderators started going, Obviously, 4chan, there's been a hack.
01:01:44.000The site itself has been halted until we can determine the damages.
01:01:47.000It's likely that email addresses have been leaked.
01:01:59.000And if the Janies here were willing to use their actual work business emails, probably isn't going to look that good when people are doing a deep search of you down the road.
01:02:10.000But of course, over here, I think it's more important to worry about what your email address is connected to.
01:02:14.000So have you used it for LinkedIn or Facebook or GitHub or Google?
01:02:18.000You know, places where people do actual mainstream work from.
01:02:22.000Why do you think it's important, Isaac?
01:02:24.000Why is it relevant what happens on 4chan?
01:02:26.000And don't we just assume that the government is infiltrating every place where there might be conversations?
01:02:31.000Yeah, so the reason why I thought it was important was because if, in fact, there are the government email addresses in there, it kind of lends credence to the Tuesday show, Tucker Clip, where...
01:02:43.000Was it a congressman, was saying that the government has courses to make people into conspiracy theorists?
01:02:48.000So that would actually lend credence to what he's saying if they're going into these 4chan boards as.gov admins, essentially, and, you know, sowing these seeds of doubt in the community and hoping that something comes out of it.
01:03:02.000Yeah, you're talking about Kurt Walden's conversation with Tucker Carlson, where he says that propaganda is used, of course, to maneuver public opinion.
01:03:10.000It reminds me of some of the stories that emerged 10, 20 years ago about the FBI infiltrating groups and sometimes suggesting to them plots.
01:03:19.000Like, wouldn't it be a good idea if you blew up this thing?
01:03:21.000And then the people that they'd suggested it to, often destitutes and hopeless folks, would attempt to carry it out, with the FBI often supplying them with gelignite and equipment to carry it out and then arresting them.
01:03:33.000Meaning, it's no longer an investigation, it's actually incitation.
01:03:38.000In a way, the reason that language like red flag events has even emerged.
01:03:43.000And it seems to me pretty obvious that if you have the infiltration of the Jan 6 marchers, if you have infiltration into all protest groups and activist organisations, of course they're going to do that online as well.
01:03:57.000Of course, the vast new territories that have been opened up in online spaces To be monitored if what your ultimate aim is, is control.
01:04:06.000And continually we notice, particularly say with the UK government, that everything they do, no matter what they say, is in order to legitimise control.
01:04:15.000The kind of people that would arrest you for sort of speaking out of school when it comes to matters of race or civil rights will of course infiltrate chat sites.
01:04:25.000And they'll always claim that it's for your safety and it's counter-terrorism.
01:04:36.000The human spirit is a vast and chaotic thing, as we just witnessed there with that madness of chicken jockey and the Minecraft real-life memes that are emerging.
01:04:46.000The madness of crowds has always been something the authority has sought to control, measure, manipulate and direct.
01:04:53.000The fact is we need constant wars or bad food or bad information to control.
01:05:00.000The reason I advocate so strongly and so consistently for spiritual awakening is because if your own actual access point, your own portal to reality is well tended, it don't matter what they put in front of you.
01:05:11.000You will have the means and methods to navigate it.
01:05:27.000Like Thomas Petty, you know, he went back.
01:05:28.000Actually dead, but we're actually better than Tom Petty.
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