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00:00:01.000Thanks for joining me for Stay Free with Russell Brand today.
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00:00:14.000Surely now, as close as we're likely to get on this channel to a returning messiah, is our next guest.
00:00:21.000NHS Doctor, that in our country means the National Health Service in the UK, that means a general family doctor, but now public health activist, enlightened and awakened by events during the pandemic, Dr Bob Gill has become a prominent voice and ally for those of us, excuse me, that are questioning the way that the narrative unfolded during the pandemic.
00:00:48.000So one of the stories that would be a great place for us to start would be this seemingly peculiar and surely not true claim that the version of the Pfizer vaccine that was initially tested, and as I understand, given to Pfizer employees, was different from the initial round of vaccines released in the UK.
00:01:16.000There were two processes used to produce the mRNA vaccine.
00:01:21.000One was a quite expensive, but a clean process, which was using our DNA to sequence RNA.
00:01:29.000And the second process, process two, which was used to mass produce the vaccine, was using E. coli and putting into E. coli plasmids and getting the E. coli to reproduce the mRNA.
00:01:45.000So it's a cheaper form of producing the vaccine, but the problem with that is you can get contamination.
00:01:51.000So you can get genetic material from the E. coli into your vaccine vial.
00:01:58.000Now, there's a very low threshold of tolerating contamination within vaccines.
00:02:04.000However, you know, researchers looked into this matter and found very high levels of contamination with DNA.
00:02:13.000Now the problem with DNA is it can potentially get incorporated into your own genome and also the presence of DNA can actually spark anaphylaxis.
00:02:25.000That's when you get a severe allergic reaction.
00:02:29.000I don't know if you remember but once the Pfizer vaccine came out Later on, a week or two later, they started telling practitioners to keep the patients with you for 15 minutes, keep an eye on them for 15 minutes after the vaccine.
00:02:44.000Now, that was related to the potential reaction to the endotoxin from the E. coli contamination.
00:02:53.000And, you know, this research initially done by Dr. Kevin McKernan, who's a very highly qualified, respected academic whose whole life is devoted to, you know, researching these matters.
00:03:07.000He was part of the Human Genome Project, a highly credentialed person.
00:03:13.000Now, his work has been replicated in Japan, in Europe, in other units in the US and they've all found very worrying high
00:04:00.000For example, I remember hearing very early in the pandemic period posts that would definitely have been censored that the The problem with this vaccine is it has the potential to alter your DNA.
00:04:11.000I feel like that was one of the kind of stories where I thought, oh, even for me, a person that's open to almost any anti-authoritarian narrative, that has no trust in the legacy media, that has very little trust in Big Pharma at all, no trust in the state, surely it doesn't have the potential to alter your genetics.
00:04:29.000I thought that was sort of highfalutin, but you're saying that that actually is one of those conspiracy theories that's kind of true.
00:04:48.000And at some level, it can promote cancerous transformation.
00:04:52.000Now, if you have, you know, some of this DNA being entered into your own cell's DNA, it can actually turn on the process of cancer.
00:05:01.000And if you add that in with immune dysfunction, then the risk becomes real.
00:05:06.000And that risk has been documented elsewhere.
00:05:09.000So, you know, this is coming from highly respected sources.
00:05:12.000If people want to look into this further, I suggest they look on the World Health Council's Twitter and they've got a three-hour lecture going into the detail of all of this most recent revelation and analysing the implications.
00:05:26.000You're talking, I suppose, about SV40 DNA.
00:05:29.000That's specifically the name, is it, of the aspect of this malformant component that can induce, can be carcinogenic?
00:06:14.000What do you mean they can't identify what the function of that is?
00:06:20.000You can't explain why that was in the vaccine, you know, why that specific coding, which is recognised to be potentially dangerous, how did that end up in the vaccine?
00:06:30.000It wasn't required for the production of the vaccine.
00:06:35.000So between the testing and, you know, Albert Baller turning up on TV shows saying it's 98% effective, Claiming it was a kind of wonder drug, that it was a moonshot.
00:06:47.000They started using plasma out of E. coli that they hadn't previously been doing.
00:06:52.000And there's the odd introduction of SV40 DNA that promotes cancer.
00:06:58.000Are you saying that both of those things happened between trial-in and release?
00:07:04.000Yeah, they used a different, cleaner process for the trial and a cheaper mass production process for the vaccine that was rolled out to the public.
00:07:14.000Now, to use E. coli to produce mRNA in this way is not uncommon.
00:07:19.000The problem is the contamination issue.
00:07:21.000If your quality control isn't good enough, if you outsource the production to labs you've got no control over, that's where the problems arise.
00:07:30.000Yeah, I suppose you're alluding to the many stories about the lack of standards in many of the labs where clinical trials took place.
00:07:39.000They're almost too difficult to number and they're certainly difficult to locate due to the clandestine shrouding of these issues.
00:07:47.000Another thing that seems pertinent to talk about, you and I both being in the UK right now, is the British politician Andrew Bridgen last night, or earlier this week, a couple of days ago I think, Raising the question of excess deaths in British Parliament.
00:08:02.000There's a few things I want to point out.
00:08:04.000Like this phenomena of excess deaths is one of the things that's been masked.
00:08:08.000Many people that were in this space questioning the way that COVID was being reported on noted that there appeared to be an attempt to attribute to coronavirus itself Adverse side effects that could potentially have been caused by the vaccine.
00:08:26.000This 60,000 additional deaths that took place in the United States, I think I'm right in saying between 21 and 23, as was pointed out in, tell me the name of that author when you get a minute, James, was pointed out in the book about excess deaths, was, you know, a Vietnam War worth of casualties.
00:08:44.000America lost as many young people in the Vietnam War over a 12 year period as it did in that Two year period to excess deaths.
00:08:53.000How come excess deaths is still a difficult subject to talk about?
00:08:57.000How come there was hardly anyone in Parliament, that's our form of Congress, when Andrew Bridgen raised the matter?
00:09:06.000Is this going to be another of the strands around this period of time that's going to disclose important information to us?
00:09:14.000Well, I think that the politicians, unfortunately, have a vested interest in covering all of this up, don't they?
00:09:20.000Because they've followed the narrative of the drug companies.
00:09:24.000They've allowed us to do what amounts to a mass experiment, vaccinating the whole population against a virus which a lot of us had developed natural immunity to.
00:09:36.000So they were pushing this vaccine down our throat.
00:09:40.000And now that the Chickens are coming home to roost.
00:09:44.000They don't want the impact of their decisions to be known widely amongst the public, so they might share some of these concerns.
00:09:52.000You know, Andrew Brigden and others have done a lot to try and bring this to the attention of politicians, and they're willfully being blind about what's going on here.
00:10:01.000Yeah, it does seem like that because of the many concerns, shall we call them, that sprung up around this period after the initial explosion of euphoria and excitement that accompanied the advent of the vaccine, which many media institutions try to artificially maintain, When inquiry did begin, it was, I suppose, focused on the potential that the vaccine could have consequences that are worse than the problem that it was invented to solve.
00:10:36.000Now, As time goes on it seems that we're moving closer to that conclusion rather than further away from it.
00:10:45.000It did seem that there were a number of sudden unexplained deaths.
00:10:49.000It's another one of those subjects that people were discouraged from discussing even though it became almost anecdotally observable.
00:10:57.000The evidence of your own eyes when people were dropping dead on sports fields, young famous people dying and therefore being reported on, the number of You know, the number of morticians and people working in various funeral services saying that they were seeing stuff that didn't make sense.
00:11:15.000People in our country, the health service, pointing out that deaths were being reported inaccurately.
00:11:21.000At this point, we've arrived now It seems to me a point where there needs to be a kind of reckoning.
00:11:32.000That even if you were to take this subject in isolation, away from the concerns around the military industrial complex, the nature of legacy media, the obvious hypocrisy and corruption of the years leading up to coronavirus, but that period is simply revealed rather than created.
00:11:50.000So it seems that there's a necessity for a kind of a pandemic reckoning.
00:11:56.000But that's unlikely to take place, isn't it?
00:11:59.000When in this country and in America, broadly speaking, both political parties have a general alliance and very little appetite to hold to account the powerful interests that contributed to, if not caused, many of these problems.
00:12:14.000Yeah, I think you get to the heart of the matter.
00:12:17.000There is a distinct lack of accountability.
00:13:22.000But these people keep making the same decision, time and time again, and you can only conclude this is deliberate, this is part of the system.
00:13:29.000Yeah, another of the components of this has been the changing nature of reporting around myocarditis and pericarditis.
00:13:39.000That's another one of the subjects that just couldn't be discussed, that was regarded as a conspiracy theory.
00:13:45.000You know, when initial adverse events were reported or when anecdotes Totally.
00:14:06.000And at what point do these shifts become tantamount to admission of a failure of the whole project?
00:14:13.000Yeah, they've been dragged kicking and screaming to this point.
00:14:17.000You know, people like Peter McCullough have done a lot of work, you know, the famous cardiologist, done a lot of work raising the awareness about myocarditis with the vaccine.
00:14:27.000At the beginning, you know, people were conflating having the illness with the vaccine, but actually you can do specific tests which show that what was present on post-mortem examination, special stains can identify that the protein within the heart The genetic material within the heart was spike protein produced by the vaccine.
00:14:48.000So you can do very clever tests to find out, was it the virus or was it the vaccine?
00:14:53.000And it was work done by, I think it was a team in Germany that looked at post-mortems of people with sudden death.
00:15:00.000to look unexplained sudden death, to look was there myocarditis and what was the source of
00:15:04.000that myocarditis. So the hard work has been done and I think Pfizer's, you know, eventual admission
00:15:10.000of the problem is, I think, their way of managing their corporate image and corporate trust.
00:15:18.000If you give a little bit, you may come across as having an ounce of integrity.
00:15:24.000Yeah, and they're obvious and it's hardly necessary to state that the financial, institutional, corporate and global structures that undergird these types of issues and these types of organizations are Never able to be fully interrogated and investigated, because if you were to, you would no longer be able to sustain this model.
00:15:53.000With Black Rock's Larry Fink showing support, or I think vocalising support, for the Labour leader Keir Starmer, who's the Leader of the Opposition, equivalent I suppose to the Democrats in this country.
00:16:04.000Does that further Demonstrate the impossibility of ever addressing these issues for established democracy.
00:16:12.000If you put together Andrew Brigdon talking to an empty parliament with Keir Starmer essentially being verified by the, you know, global financial interests, should we say, for the sake of simplicity.
00:16:25.000How, through parliament, through congress, through conventional democracy, a democracy that many people believe to have been entirely corrupted, are we ever Able to have the reckoning that appears to be necessary.
00:17:11.000And the politicians are looking for big backers because in due course, no doubt, after they leave politics, they want to cash up for their compliance with corporate power.
00:17:22.000So this is the belly of the beast, I'm afraid.
00:17:26.000And, you know, unless we get a critical mass of informed public, awakened public, There can be no reckoning.
00:17:33.000There can be no change to the system that is endemically putting money above the environment, above human life, above everything else.
00:17:51.000Yeah, and it's difficult to address that kind of pandemic without spiritual measures, without personal awakening, without a set of cultural values that very much are at odds with the current momentum.
00:18:03.000As well, I would say, Bob, with a culture that seems very fractured, where a lot of energy seems to be spent through the legacy media crushing the scenting of voices and discrediting them.
00:18:15.000And ensuring that there is ongoing cultural conflict between people who in alliance, the kind of alliance that might be achieved if power were wherever possible decentralised and people able to run their lives culturally however they want to.
00:18:31.000It seems Very difficult to imagine that kind of awakening take place.
00:18:36.000So can you just for a moment talk on the importance of independent media?
00:18:41.000Talk for a moment on the kind of spiritual principles that appear to be somewhat lacking and need to be promoted and how you have gone from being like a family doctor to someone who, like when you're talking and you're sort of quoting Mussolini, not favourably, not as a hero, but as a warning from history, Where do you see this journey going for you?
00:19:14.000So, you know, independent media are clearly a threat to the narrative that corporate media generates.
00:19:21.000And that's why they're trying to shut people down.
00:19:24.000People as yourself, you know, other important voices out there are a real problem for them.
00:19:30.000So, you know, if you're getting attacked, you clearly you're doing something right.
00:19:36.000The spiritual point you make is important because the values we all share are to be able to look after ourselves, our families, and live a reasonably happy life.
00:19:48.000These are not unreasonable demands, but that is not allowed to happen.
00:19:56.000We don't have a welfare state or a social security system which is up to the needs that are out there.
00:20:04.000In order for us to not look up, not look at the people controlling this system, but to spend our time fighting each other, you need to generate these divide and rule narratives, be it on cultural issues, be it on trans rights, be it whatever.
00:20:23.000Every one of those narratives is used to divide the people at the bottom, so they don't have time or headspace to look up.
00:20:34.000When everybody, when all media are pushing a certain line, you need to smell a rat.
00:20:40.000When you have the CIA pushing out memes about trans rights, you have to suspect what they're really up to, right?
00:20:49.000You know, we pay lip service to respecting the rights of women and children in Afghanistan, yet we're quite happy to bomb women and children in Gaza at the moment.
00:21:01.000And where, you know, where there is no consistency in the application of stated principles, we need to be suspicious and start looking more critically into that matter.
00:21:14.000Because it seems like it's going to be very difficult for you to sit in a surgery and just, you know, as a doctor, say, well, here's your fifth booster shot.
00:21:22.000I mean, what are you saying to patients at this point?
00:21:25.000And how is the conflation of your roles as a doctor and as an activist balancing out now?
00:21:33.000So, you know, when Asim Malhotra, who you had on your show, I believe it was last week, he produced a paper looking at Pfizer's own research evidence and actually sent it to me before he published it.
00:21:47.000He said, what do you think about this?
00:21:48.000And once I read that, he said, can you give me a quote before we get it published, put it out in the media?
00:21:55.000Reading that, I cannot in any good conscience give anybody an mRNA shot.
00:22:03.000I would be a total hypocrite if I came on here pointing out the problems and concerns out there about myocarditis and the contamination, and then to carry on giving them, although there is a significant financial incentive to keep doing so.
00:22:19.000There are perverse incentives for us to act against our conscience, for us to be selectively and willfully blind about what's going on around us.
00:22:28.000And you know, I've reached the stage of my career that I don't.
00:22:34.000If they come for me, I'm taking that risk.
00:22:51.000And if that means losing my job, well, so be it.
00:22:55.000It's frightening though, isn't it Bob?
00:22:58.000It seems that in the United States, Biden's given a green light to corporate control in healthcare.
00:23:06.000UnitedHealth Group's enrolment growth over the past decade is solely from Medicare and Medicaid, with taxpayers significantly contributing to the company's profits.
00:23:14.000The Medicare programme has transformed into the insurance industry's primary revenue source.
00:23:19.000Tell me how Biden's posturing around Medicare and Medicaid is actually just another form of profiteering, corporatism and monetisation of the health industry.
00:23:37.000Yeah, so, you know, Medicare and Medicaid are state-funded health provision for those people who are left out of the insurance-based system because they're too sick or they're too poor.
00:23:49.000They can't make money out of those people.
00:23:51.000So the state has had to step in as a last resort.
00:23:55.000Now, when the state was providing that care itself, There wasn't money being siphoned away.
00:24:02.000But what's happened over recent years is they've actually appointed people from UnitedHealth and other healthcare companies to run the federally funded service.
00:24:12.000So the revolving door, we have the revolving door again.
00:24:16.000That's allowed them to bring in, to loosen regulation and to allow the insurance companies to come in and run what is paid by the taxpayer.
00:24:25.000So they can siphon yet more money into their own coffers.
00:24:45.000So the plan is whatever money is spent, be it through taxpayer or be it through the individual buying private insurance, these companies want a slice of the action.
00:25:36.000I feel like you're covering in the film, The Great NHS Heist, how the corporatisation of our still nominally state-run welfare-oriented health service has been co-opted and almost that's not something that's been voted on or even explained.
00:25:54.000What is the subject of your documentary, Bob?
00:25:58.000Yes, it's really to highlight, you know, what the NHS to corporations are a series of assets, which are to be stripped or to be mined for the recurrent, you know, taxpayer funded money that comes in.
00:26:16.000And, you know, what the government should be doing is protecting the public's interest with our taxes, but what it's actually doing is selling us out.
00:26:24.000So, you know, healthcare can be divided up into three assets.
00:26:27.000You've got the real estate, you've got the patient data, which is an increasingly commercialisable asset, and you've got the funding.
00:26:36.000But the control of those assets now is very much transferred into the private sector.
00:26:43.000And in order for them to maximise profit, they do it through the denial of care.
00:26:47.000And what the film tries to do is to not make a humanitarian case, to not make an ethical case.
00:26:54.000We make an economic case for why this is a disaster, not only for the sick people, but for the economy in general.
00:27:02.000Because the more you waste on healthcare, the less you can do For, you know, investment in infrastructure or whatever it might be, because there's an opportunity cost.
00:27:12.000If you're wasting 30% on overheads and CEO bonuses, well, you're not spending it on delivering health care.
00:27:23.000And it tries to merge the US experience with what's happening here to have a wider appeal.
00:27:30.000And, you know, in my dreams, I thought we'd be inundated with calls from Americans telling us, what the hell are you guys doing copying our crazy system?
00:28:20.000Dr. Bob's documentary, The Great NHS Heist, is available now.
00:28:23.000We'll post a link right away and you can follow him on X, at DrBobGill.
00:28:28.000He's worth following because he's a doctor who's willing to confront authority and willing to say to him personally expensive and risky truth.
00:28:39.000On the show tomorrow, we've got Neil Oliver, who you might know from GB News, you might know as a public commentator.
00:28:45.000He's someone who appears to have really captured a lot of attention through his ability to analyse and explain many of the events in recent years and also I feel like I look a bit like him.
00:29:20.000Awaken everybody that you possibly can.
00:29:23.000Find people in positions of authority and experience that are interested in living in a new way.
00:29:29.000Accumulate a new system adjacent to this current corrupt one and vivify it with our powerful spiritual energy and be willing to engage in this spiritual war like these people.
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