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00:01:33.000You know in much the same way do you remember when he picked his defence secretary and there were certain ties to more or Okay, if you're going to be Defence Secretary, I want to know that when it comes to matters of the military-industrial complex, weapons manufacturers, you've not had anything that might compromise you?
00:01:52.000I used to work for them, I work for them still.
00:01:55.000We've got a lot of information for you.
00:01:57.000As well as telling you the truth about the way that the power functions, the way that these systems operate, we're going to have a little bit of fun.
00:02:03.000Because you know what the devil don't like?
00:04:06.000It had something to do with things that you shouldn't be taking, doesn't it?
00:04:09.000The previous day I had been taking things.
00:04:12.000I just remember that I'd been out and then when I woke up I was in a room with everyone.
00:04:16.000You know when Indiana Jones gets chased by people because he's been stealing, actually, their sacred artifacts, which he shouldn't have been doing, should he?
00:05:07.000We can handle the bit where it says stuff like, hmm, that's convenient that they introduced all those regulations and all that was quite a profitable measure.
00:05:13.000That's an interesting wealth transfer that took place in the last couple of years.
00:05:17.000When it starts going, the military... Allegedly.
00:05:21.000The whole thing, the whole, the RFK interview is available on Rumble right now.
00:06:09.000How are we going to bring people together?
00:06:11.000How are we going to change the world if I don't go to Machiavelli's Tuscan palace?
00:06:16.000I was doing a talk, anyway, and this scholar of the Vedas, like the Vedic literature that founds the faith that is broadly referred to as Hinduism, said, which aspect of Durga, because this is Durga the goddess, which aspect of Durga is that Menabee, she said.
00:08:04.000Yeah, well, this is amazing because this is like based upon the Durham Report.
00:08:07.000Obviously, we've touched on this and we kind of know about the collusion.
00:08:12.000We know the broad strokes of it, but it seems that more people were involved than we... One person has said no, but they've said just to see if we counted it.
00:08:29.000The FBI said that they investigated Russiagate, as we've told you already, without any evidence.
00:08:35.000There was no evidence, it was unrequired, they dragged on that time.
00:08:38.000But what's the proof that Clinton and even Obama are somehow involved in this?
00:08:42.000It literally is contained within the report.
00:08:44.000According to the Dung Report, the plan by Hillary Clinton to create a false story linking Donald Trump to Russia was briefed in August 2016 by CIA Director John Brennan to President Obama, VP Biden, AG Loretta Lynch and FBI Director Comey.
00:08:59.000So that is, I mean you're talking there, Obama, Biden, Clinton, CIA, FBI all involved in this.
00:09:15.000This is why someone like RFK, man, that guy's going to disrupt stuff because he's talking about changing things for real with the MIC, changing things for real with social media and big tech, investigating what's happened in the last couple of years.
00:09:58.000The fact is you can't just lie to undermine someone's presidency and then complain when that person uses comparable tactics and rejects the result of that election.
00:11:22.000And he dedicated his life to throwing off a colonial power, an evil empire, that had taken over and oppressed his nation.
00:11:31.000Of course, it was the British Empire now, I would say, and with all due respect to you beautiful beloved brothers and sisters over there in America, It's American imperialism that dominates the world through their unipolar hegemony that is threatened even by attempts by China to bring about world peace.
00:11:45.000You know, and I know China have their own agenda.
00:11:48.000But when it comes to we, the people, the real people, we have to look to heroes and philosophies such as Gandhi's to understand the possibility for real change.
00:11:56.000Let's have a look at a bit of old news footage introducing this great man.
00:12:00.000It will encourage and inspire you. Now you iconoclasts out there, I bet you're
00:12:04.000already frantically typing in the chat and you can press that red button to join us in locals. Oh, he's
00:12:08.000done a lot of crazy stuff. Of course he done crazy stuff. Of course he trained as a lawyer. Of
00:12:12.000course he was a person that was, that there's some weird stuff in his autobiography about sleeping in the
00:12:17.000same bed as his nieces or some sort of weird test. And I guess you just have to recognize
00:12:22.000that even the greatest people in the world are sort of a bit flawed and maybe focus on these
00:12:39.000Well, here we are at Folkestone, with the Biarritz coming alongside, and as Gandhi said, in proper English weather, pouring rain and bitterly cold, Miss Slade was the first ashore to tend to the luggage, that is, the goat's milk, etc.
00:13:02.000She was followed by Gandhi's son, and then came the little man, still scantily clad, but with an extremely wet blanket around his tiny frame.
00:13:13.000It's not like he's scantily clad and he's only got a tiny frozen rib, talking about his body and all.
00:13:31.000He picked his way through the... I mean it's still sort of propaganda, it's still inviting you to take a particular perspective on a great man.
00:13:37.000As Albert Einstein said of Gandhi, we will scarce believe that one such as this was incarnated in flesh and blood.
00:13:43.000That his life is so improbable, his self-sacrifice so astonishing, his achievement so remarkable that in just a generation or two Einstein postulated he'd be regarded almost as a prophet.
00:13:54.000But I feel that our culture likes to destroy and deny us figures such as Gandhi because the function of a hero is, I believe, to help us move from egoic thinking, individualistic, selfish thinking, to compassionate, higher, self-motivated thought.
00:14:11.000That the journey of the hero is always to move from primal, primary motivation to, I would say, a higher motivation.
00:14:18.000Now, I understand a word like higher has certain connotations.
00:14:20.000What I mean is selflessness and service.
00:14:23.000He had 11 vows, Gandhi, among them truth, control of the palate, non-stealing, just a sort of a simple set of principles, I guess.
00:14:30.000But earlier today, I was looking at Gandhi's 11th principle of Swadeshi.
00:14:35.000Listen to this, and listen to how this invites us to have personal autonomy, community control, But to a degree, global harmony.
00:14:44.000Gandhi was against, above all else, corrupt, centralized power and exploitation.
00:14:49.000I'm not saying Gandhi was a man without flaws.
00:14:51.000What's the point of advancing such an argument?
00:14:53.000What I'm saying is that in Gandhi and his philosophy, we have clues, codes, examples that can help us to change the world.
00:14:59.000It's not a coincidence that one of the most effective civil rights leaders of the last 50 years, Martin Luther King, was greatly inspired by Gandhi.
00:15:08.000There's a lot that all of us can learn from Gandhi, because do we not similarly toil under an empire much more insidious, much more invasive, much more powerful due to its invisibility and due to the fact that it doesn't let us know it's there?
00:15:52.000All of these are valuable and significant and important causes.
00:15:55.000But if you, in your conduct, Gandhi is saying, are not being nice to the people that are around you, your family, your colleagues, your literal neighbours, did not our Lord Jesus Christ similarly say, love thy neighbour.
00:16:06.000And this word neighbour is significant because it means who is with you?
00:16:10.000Who is it that you can actually impact and affect?
00:16:13.000It's the people that are with you now.
00:16:14.000As we live in increasingly atomized worlds, detached from reality, living embalmed in formaldehyde screens, unable to have organic connection with another, Gandhi reminds us that morality and principles are things we can practice every day.
00:16:34.000On the other hand, a man who allows himself to be lured by the distant scene and runs to the ends of the earth for service is not only foiled in his ambition, but also fails in his duty towards his neighbours.
00:16:46.000One must, as far as possible, purchase one's requirements locally, and do not buy things imported from foreign lands, which can easily be manufactured in the country.
00:16:56.000So, he is implying an economic policy in addition.
00:17:01.000Think about how people now talk about the problems that are inherent in outsourced labour, the problems of people not having work to do, the incoming AI revolution.
00:17:12.000Elsewhere, Gandhi talked about the dangers of technology in trinkets.
00:17:29.000Elon Musk, literally, we're talking about Elon Musk and warning about the dangers of AI when he was talking about technology there.
00:17:35.000You know, he was onto something, you could say.
00:17:37.000It's like a kind of profit, because Gandhi's activism doesn't come from a kind of a secular perspective on simply organising resources, although he touches, of course, on these things.
00:17:47.000It comes from a deep spiritual set of values, the enshrines here in this book.
00:17:54.000One must, as far as possible, purchase one's requirements locally.
00:17:56.000Do not buy things imported from foreign lands, which can easily be manufactured in your country.
00:18:01.000There is no place for self-interest in Swadeshi, which enjoins the sacrifice of oneself for the family, of the family for the village, of the village for the country, and of the country for humanity.
00:18:12.000That there are ever increasing circles of obligation to one another.
00:18:30.000Held within a superstructure of complex bureaucracies governed by unelected organizations, supported by apparently philanthropic organizations that have billions that were hard won and difficult to explain.
00:18:45.000Peculiar billions come from relationships in big tech and the military.
00:18:50.000I'm speaking, of course, of organizations like the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
00:18:53.000I'm talking, of course, of organizations like the Clinton Foundation.
00:18:56.000I'm saying that what Gandhi was fundamentally interested in was Personal freedom, but a personal freedom that's not about indulgence, that's not about glorification of the personal identity, but a kind of disavowing of that.
00:19:09.000An awakening to who you could be and how you can change and empower the world.
00:20:05.000You can join the comments there by joining us on Locals.
00:20:07.000Now, when we were over on YouTube, we promised you a conversation with a brilliant medical man, a physician who cares, a man who puts his healing first, a man who's willing to confront institutional corruption.
00:20:19.000He's a family doctor and health activist.
00:21:11.000You give yourself a heart attack, mate.
00:21:13.000You want to watch out, you give yourself a connery.
00:21:16.000Dr. Bob, thank you so much for joining us.
00:21:18.000The first thing we wanted to talk to you about was Monica Bertagnoli, aka the new Fauci.
00:21:23.000She previously received $290 million in funding from Pfizer.
00:21:27.000Is she an appropriate person to be working in the position that she is?
00:21:31.000When many people suspect that Anthony Fauci's ties to the pharmaceutical industry led to his mismanagement, some people are saying, of the pandemic and possibly, you know, a lot of people talk about how Fauci handled the AIDS crisis 20 years earlier or so.
00:21:46.000What do you think about these kind of figures that have had financial ties to Big Pharma being in government positions?
00:22:19.000They hold power through political contributions.
00:22:21.000They hold power through regulatory capture.
00:22:25.000And the NIH should be acting in the public interest.
00:22:27.000But when you have people heavily sponsored or funded by private business and drug companies, well, that raises the obvious question of conflicts of interest.
00:22:37.000You know, what are these people going to get in return for their investment?
00:22:42.000You know, in America, their health care system from the 1970s has drifted more and more into corporate control and away from providing cheap, effective health care for the population.
00:22:54.000And this seems to me a continue along that trajectory.
00:22:59.000We have just found out that the United States spends more on health care than any other country, but life expectancy is going down.
00:23:08.000We've got a graph that demonstrates that.
00:23:09.000Can you talk us through why you imagine that this peculiar ascendancy is occurring?
00:23:17.000Well, you can see the graph which compares the United States to Western developed countries.
00:23:23.000They started to drift away to the right and downwards.
00:23:27.000That means more expensive, lower life expectancy.
00:23:31.000And what they did back in the 70s was to adopt what's called a managed care model.
00:23:36.000And this was revealed via the Nixon tapes where the person advocating this shift expressed very clearly that it was all about making more money.
00:23:47.000In fact, to quote from what was on the tapes, the less care you provide, the more money you make.
00:23:56.000So this was a starting point of a drift away from rational health care.
00:24:01.000But the other discrepancy, the American system is extremely bureaucratic.
00:24:06.000Up to one dollar in every three goes out in administration, management, And, you know, shareholder dividend and CEO pay.
00:24:20.000The way Big Pharma is regulated or lack of regulation means that they can profiteer and charge very high prices for drugs that we get a lot cheaper in this country.
00:24:31.000And there's also a perverse incentive.
00:24:33.000The more privatized the health care system is, potentially, the more unnecessary interventions you get.
00:24:40.000And the more waste there is due to fragmentation.
00:24:42.000So, you know, in the States they have a very poorly developed primary care or family physician system and they're dealing with problems downstream.
00:24:54.000They wait until the problems arise and then they come up with very expensive solutions.
00:24:59.000I'm minded of the conversation we had with Callie Means, a whistleblower against the food industries for whom he previously worked, who's joining us at the Community Festival in July.
00:25:10.000There's a link in the chat if you want to join us there.
00:25:12.000There are still some tickets available and I'd love you to come actually, Dr. Bob.
00:25:16.000He pointed out to us and made it sort of evident and clear that the food industry is irresponsible in the type of food that is promoted that they with their knowledge and understanding of like seed oils and processed food and It seems sometimes like these companies are using human beings as a kind of chattel, sort of moving them from one market to another market, filling us up with bad food, giving us bad advice, and health insurance companies are incentivized to make patients appear more ill than they
00:26:03.000It feels like systemically there are such serious problems, Doctor, that was nothing less than a radical re-evaluation and even the abolition of some of these systems is what's required.
00:26:14.000Tell us a little more about the way that health insurance companies function, if you would.
00:26:18.000Yeah, so what you've referenced there is a type of fraud.
00:26:22.000It's a fraud called upcoding, whereby if you present a patient as being sicker than they really are, you can attract a greater fee when the government is paying.
00:26:32.000And what the private insurers are doing, they are increasing their expansion into the American healthcare by taking over the control of government-funded healthcare.
00:26:43.000So that includes Medicare, And Medicaid.
00:26:47.000So these are two systems that the taxpayer funds.
00:26:51.000And the reason they have them is because the insurance industry wasn't interested in unprofitable patients.
00:26:58.000But now they've realized if we can get our hands on government funding as well, all the more profit for our shareholders.
00:27:05.000So they are expanding rather than their control being limited, which is what we were promised by Bernie Sanders and others.
00:27:12.000We were going to rein in the power of these companies, but exactly the opposite is taking place.
00:27:18.000Do you think then a candidate like RFK, certainly based on what he's saying, could make a significant difference in this field?
00:27:25.000Do you need someone that's willing to go up against corporations?
00:27:28.000Do you need someone that's willing to confront the deep state to meaningfully make a difference in this area?
00:27:33.000I know Gareth's got points on this subject.
00:27:35.000It's obviously an area that we're continually looking at, but what do you think about the possibility of change being induced by apparently radical candidates, although all they seem to me to be is authentic, honest and willing to go up against Big power.
00:27:46.000You know, I'm talking about the likes of Marianne Williamson and RFK.
00:27:49.000Have you heard anything encouraging from those candidates?
00:28:17.000has a track record of looking after and advocating as a lawyer for environmental causes.
00:28:23.000And if you look at the root cause of ill health, well, it comes down to environment.
00:28:27.000It comes down to food, comes down to pollution.
00:28:30.000It comes down to stress, and we are living in a neoliberal economic structure which makes all those problems worse.
00:28:38.000You know, if you have a polluting company pouring poison into rivers, Affecting the sea life, what we end up consuming, well, that's going to have a health effect.
00:28:50.000But at the moment, our economic model allows corporations to walk away from the environmental impact and the public pick up the tab.
00:29:01.000So the profits are theirs and the downside we have to pick up.
00:29:05.000Dr. Bob, I'm sure you will be aware of the Stanford designed PCR type test that was able to diagnose whether non-symptomatic COVID patients were uninfectious, were not infectious.
00:29:22.000We were told, of course, that during the pandemic that even if you weren't showing symptoms, you were likely still able to spread infection.
00:29:29.000There was a test that proved that this was not the case.
00:29:31.000That test was available as early as May 2020.
00:29:34.000Doesn't this seem to be yet another piece of evidence, Doctor, that the pandemic was handled in order to direct policy in a particular direction?
00:29:45.000Yeah, there were lots of perverse incentives to be doing things that didn't really make sense.
00:29:50.000The PCR test in particular, you know, if you repeat the cycle, then you amplify the signal so many times, then you're going to increase the false positive rate.
00:30:02.000And some of these companies were rewarded on the number of positive tests.
00:30:06.000So it increased the incentive for them to produce positive tests.
00:30:11.000And the private companies that were outsourced to do this work, there wasn't much checking and regulation.
00:30:16.000So, you know, these positive tests on asymptomatic people was scientifically flawed.
00:30:22.000The PCR test itself was never meant as a screening tool.
00:30:26.000It was meant as a scientific tool to be used in research.
00:30:30.000So, you know, we were, Fauci and co, managed to have a very expensive and unsuccessful management of a pandemic, which just happened to enrich a lot of corporations.
00:31:02.000A quick question about just returning to what you were saying about drug prices.
00:31:07.000There was a new report that's come out that's saying American families are spending 40 billion extra a year when pharmaceutical companies are making a legal decision.
00:31:18.000So these are illegal anti-competitive schemes that pharmaceutical companies deploy to basically boost their profits.
00:31:23.000This is a way of keeping generic medicines, which would be far cheaper for the American
00:31:29.000public, for things like cancer drugs, blood pressure drugs, things like that.
00:31:33.000When it's been reported that these are now illegal anti-competitive schemes, and we're
00:31:38.000hearing that the new head of the NIH is receiving almost $300 million from Pfizer, are these
00:31:44.000the kind of, when you're talking about what are they getting in return, is it things like
00:31:48.000you won't be taken to court or you won't go to prison for illegal activities?
00:31:53.000Like, are these some of the kind of bargains that you're, that you're kind of alluding to?
00:31:58.000Yeah, well, you have a charade of regulation in the States.
00:32:03.000Let's say a company like, who produced OxyContin, the Sackler family, you know, half a million people died as a result of Opiate addiction and the consequence of opiate addiction but nobody goes to prison.
00:32:17.000The fine is often a fraction of the profit that they've earned.
00:32:21.000And then we've moved on to the next tragedy, right?
00:32:24.000So this is a pattern of regulation that does not effectively deter, does not effectively punish, and no CEO is held accountable.
00:32:33.000And similarly, if you're sponsoring politicians and you fund the regulators, well, you're not going to get effective legislation.
00:32:43.000So you have a bar on legislation that protects the public, and that's what the companies buy with their influence.
00:32:50.000Wow, what an incredible piece of information.
00:32:52.000Dr. Bob, quite understandably and justifiably, you are getting a lot of love in our chat over on Locals.
00:32:58.000You can join that by pressing the red button.
00:33:00.000Not you, doctor, you're too busy for any of that.
00:33:03.000But people here are just saying that they're enjoying your own truth bombs.
00:33:06.000They're commenting on the incredible revelations that you've provided in this conversation.
00:33:10.000And I'd like to add to that my personal gratitude For the great work you do and restoring some faith and helping me to believe that there that in the main physicians and medics care about people and even institutions of research are about prolonging and improving human life and it's just that somehow we found ourselves co-opted by corrupt and maligned systems but together there is a hope because if we have new voices of leadership and change such as yours we can all rally behind you so thanks a great deal Dr. Bob.
00:35:46.000How people that were asymptomatic, oh, you better wear a mask, you better never go out your house, you better take all these expensive experimental medicines because otherwise you killed your nan.