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00:00:31.000Unlike the dear and forever tumbling President of the United States who requires naught but love and support, if you ask me, but perhaps more urgently, replacement by an intellectual giant.
00:00:42.000We've had RFK on the show talking about his candidacy and the vision for America that he'd like to bring to the world.
00:00:48.000Today we have Cornel West, Dr Cornel West, joining us for an exclusive announcement.
00:00:56.000He's one of the most Credible, radical, philosophical voices in American politics who's able to effortlessly infuse emotion, vision, spirit, and pragmatism.
00:01:28.000Yeah, there's my dog just to legitimize that.
00:01:31.000We're talking about a new bill that's being passed to remove any potential limitations to expenditure in the Ukraine.
00:01:38.000We're talking about that not because we don't support the efforts, the humanitarian effort to help Ukrainian people, but because we're a little bit worried that all that money ends up in the hands of the military-industrial complex on a basis of Research!
00:01:51.000We're going to be going exclusively on Rumble.
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00:02:20.000Whether or not the medications were beneficial or... Actually worse!
00:03:09.000Because Elon, he done Ron DeSantis the day like, we had a date in the diary, I swear to you, I'm not lying about Elon, let us know if you believe me, right?
00:03:16.000We had Elon locked down, but then he done... DeSantis.
00:06:01.000At the end of the remarks, President Biden fell as you see.
00:06:04.000Oh, he took a real tumble, I don't like that.
00:06:06.000It's weird that she said 900 or so graduates, like that makes a difference.
00:06:10.000I guess maybe, I think the fact is he apparently shook all of their hands and they go to great lengths to tell us that he did that as well.
00:06:16.000Before you judge Joe Biden, President of the United States, who refuses to vote, sorry, debate Marianne Williamson or RFK, won't have a debate with him.
00:07:29.000My brother, you know, I want to salute you, your brilliance, the fact that you are such a genuine force for good and have the courage to be yourself.
00:07:43.000And Brother James, you all make a magnificent team.
00:07:47.000And there's no doubt that when I decided to make my announcement and talked it over with my beloved wife, Anahita, I said, if I have a choice, I want to say it on a show that I watch regularly, religiously.
00:08:07.000Because you're a truth teller and you are a justice seeker, my brother.
00:08:13.000Dr Cornel West, thank you very much for that flattery and praise, although in the case of Gareth and James, it was misjudged and misdirected.
00:08:22.000Dr Cornel West, you have a very important announcement.
00:08:25.000We are honoured that you've chosen our platform to make this announcement.
00:08:28.000Please, tell us why you are here talking to us today.
00:08:33.000Well, you know, my dear brother, that I have been fighting for truth and justice for 55 years, beginning when I was 15 years old there in the chocolate side of Sacramento, Shiloh Baptist Church, and working with the Black Panther Party.
00:08:48.000Was deeply, deeply committed to their fundamental concern for poor and working people.
00:08:54.000And now, 55 years later, I've decided to continue that fight for truth and justice by running for the president of the USA on the People's Party.
00:09:08.000To ensure that we can reintroduce to America the best of itself, and the best of America is Martin Luther King Jr., Ella Baker, Fannie Lou Hamer, Rabbi Abraham Joshua Heschel, it's Edward Zaid, it's Grace Lee Boggs, it's Chief Joseph, It's Louisa Moreno.
00:09:31.000All of these different peoples of different colors and genders and sexual orientations of James Bond and Audre Lorde doing what?
00:09:38.000Telling America the truth about itself and the condition of truth is always to allow the suffering of precious, poor, and priceless working people to be And yes, you're right, it is about love, because justice is what love looks like in public.
00:09:52.000But by love, what we're talking about is looking at the world through the lens of those Frantz Fanon called the wretched of the earth, of poor and working people, not just in America, in the American empire, and this very fragile democratic experiment in the midst of that empire, but around the world.
00:10:09.000That was another reason why I wanted to be on your show.
00:10:14.000I wanted to be Concerned about human beings no matter where they are, no matter what color, no matter what gender, no matter what sexual orientation, no matter what national identity.
00:10:25.000And that's why we're calling for a paradigm shift, brother.
00:10:28.000We need a spiritual awakening and a moral reckoning in the face of institutionalized greed.
00:10:36.000That greed can be in Wall Street, it can be in Silicon Valley, it can be in the Pentagon.
00:10:42.000And I believe, of course, we've got greed inside of all of us.
00:10:45.000But I'm talking about institutionalized greed with predatory capitalist tendencies that tend to suck everything up for money and for profit.
00:10:55.000And then we've got the neo-fascism escalating, especially in the Republican Party.
00:11:42.000You got to bring vision and passion to convince person, not people, not to follow neo-fascist pied pipers, but actually let them know that there are persons on the so-called left, which is simply say persons of integrity, honesty, and decency, looking at the world through the lens of poor and working people.
00:13:13.000Catastrophe transfigured by compassion and community.
00:13:18.000I come from a blues people, the catastrophe of slavery, of Jim Crow, of Jane Crow, of mass incarceration, of being taught to hate ourselves, and yet here comes Ma Rainey, here come Bessie Smith, here come Muddy Waters.
00:14:04.000Those are catastrophes visited upon precious human beings in every life in Iran, in Tel Aviv, In West Bank, in Gaza, in Afghanistan, in Lithuania, in Ethiopia, each precious life there has the same value as a life in London or a life in California.
00:16:23.000Expressions of very polarized spaces where no one wants to listen and lift their own voices, think critically for themselves in such a way that you can improvise.
00:16:35.000Improvisation is not Simply an artistic skill.
00:16:38.000It's a species of phronesis, what the Greeks call practical wisdom.
00:16:42.000You have to be able to judge, to get your timing right.
00:16:45.000So you tell the truth about catastrophe on the one hand, you authorize a different future in light of a different conception of time in the present, and then you improvise.
00:17:05.000And it's not a function of skin pigmentation, because there's a whole lot of black gangsters and black thugs.
00:17:10.000I got a lot of gangster and thug in me.
00:17:13.000But it's people who choose to be creative, people who choose dignity, people who choose defiance, people who are willing to live and die for something bigger than them.
00:17:28.000And that's very much what we're talking about.
00:17:30.000And that's why we're going to run this campaign in such a way.
00:17:34.000It's going to be so unique and singular and different and distinctive from what America is used to.
00:17:43.000That is a beautiful, incredible and inspiring soliloquy.
00:17:48.000How I enjoyed the litany of great heroes that you shared with us and precisely this spirit is the spirit that we need to have unleashed on ossifying American politics right now.
00:18:02.000Why I feel that your voice is so important Is because many of the radical critiques that are attacking institutional corruption at this time appear at least to be coming from conventionally regarded as right-wing places, right-wing spaces.
00:18:19.000I believe deeply in unity and revolution and a need for a different type of discourse and for
00:18:26.000new ideas to be introduced into a very restrictive and suffocated political space.
00:18:32.000I recognize too that you can't achieve anything with hate.
00:18:37.000Love needs to be reintroduced into the conversation around American politics and American
00:18:42.000power. Indeed, the period of American isolationism and American imperialism must be brought to an
00:18:50.000That America needs to come to the world with open arms and an open heart if we're to ever change this current economic dynamic that appears to be predicated on perpetual war.
00:19:01.000It's one of the things we're reporting on today.
00:19:03.000One of the things we're repeatedly, continually reporting on.
00:19:06.000The use of humanitarianism to underwrite yet more exploitation and ongoing war.
00:19:13.000And I feel that even the timbre of your speech, the references of jazz, of which Gareth will be most grateful, for he himself is a jazz musician, a French horn player, and a blue note slayer.
00:19:28.000He'll be overjoyed to hear that kind of rhetoric.
00:19:33.000I want to ask you, Doctor, you've been Although I can't begin to contemplate the amount of prejudice you must have endured to get to where you are as a much admired and decorated philosophical figure teaching at some of the most respected institutions in the world.
00:19:51.000I recognize that must have been a very difficult journey.
00:19:54.000Latterly, though, you are held in high esteem by the establishment.
00:19:59.000I'm speaking, for example, of the fact that you speak on that sort of high-profile mentorship course, you know, that online place.
00:20:08.000You're kind of adored and a darling of the legacy media.
00:20:12.000How do you feel that even beginning to have these kind of conversations attacking institutional power, which have oddly now are issues that have migrated to the right, how do you think it's going to affect your standing?
00:20:23.000And how do you think you're going to make a significant impact in a political and media landscape that is locked up in financial interest and is most intransigent and unwilling to allow genuinely radical voices into the space?
00:20:41.000And this is much more radical than that.
00:20:42.000So what kind of attacks do you anticipate?
00:20:46.000Oh, I mean, I wouldn't be surprised at a variety of different kinds of attacks and assaults coming at one, but I'm not preoccupied with those attacks and assaults at all.
00:20:55.000Anytime you embark on a fallible pursuit of truth and justice, you focus on what you can do, how you can cultivate your own gifts and work with others in community in order to be a force for good.
00:21:10.000That you're always going to be misunderstood, misconstrued.
00:21:22.000It's not so much about what's coming at you.
00:21:24.000It's how you respond to what is coming at you.
00:21:27.000And most importantly, you recognize, at least for me, you see, as a black man in America for 70 years now, That I've been on borrowed time for a good while.
00:21:37.000I probably should have been dead a long time ago in terms of the vicious kind of attacks I've had to deal with.
00:21:42.000So that for me, it's a matter of being true to myself, being true to my calling, and not being surprised by evil or paralyzed by despair.
00:21:51.000And at the same time, I'll never allow anybody to drag me so low that I will hate them.
00:21:58.000And completely foreclose their possibilities.
00:22:11.000They choose to be gangsters, they choose to be gangsters.
00:22:13.000If they were gangsters and choose to overcome gangster activity in terms of egoism and narcissism and cruelty and manipulation and subjugation of others, they can change.
00:22:23.000And that's a beautiful thing about we human beings.
00:22:25.000We're so wretched On the one hand, and yet we're wonderful on the other, that we can change.
00:22:31.000And so, the future's open-ended, my brother.
00:22:42.000So, you can't foretell the future in that way, but you have to be committed to your call, and you have to attempt to live a life of integrity.
00:22:51.000And integrity is not about popularity.
00:22:54.000And anytime you challenge establishment or status quo, you're going to get strong backlash.
00:23:00.000Dr. Cornel West, here at least, you're receiving a great deal of love over on Locals.
00:23:04.000Press the red button, you can join us on Locals.
00:23:06.000People are very excited by your announcement.
00:23:09.000What a beautiful man says it's being, and lots of people are excited to just hear this kind of language and these kind of ideas being introduced to the political space.
00:23:18.000What are the key pledges, doctor, that you'll be running under?
00:23:22.000In fact, we have them to put on the screen now, but if you could talk us through them in some detail, it would be helpful.
00:23:29.000Well, one, I am a thoroughgoing abolitionist when it comes to poverty and homelessness.
00:23:36.000In fact, I told my beloved wife that when I win, and I intend to win, my attitude is I don't want to even go into the White House until every fellow citizen has a house.
00:23:48.000She said, oh, that might not be too practical.
00:23:50.000Well, that's the spirit that I proceed.
00:23:57.000That office is simply a vehicle to pursue truth and justice that begins with abolishing, completely eliminating poverty and homelessness.
00:24:09.000It has to do with a commitment to a strong support of trade unions.
00:24:13.000So that living wages becomes a reality for every worker, no matter what color, no matter what gender, no matter what sexual orientation, no matter what region.
00:24:22.000It has to do with access to health care, Medicare for all, the very thing that my dear brother Bernie Sanders made so much of, and rightly so.
00:24:30.000It has to do with a tremendous indictment of the greed of the 1% at the top in ways in which we can get some accountability.
00:24:40.000I love your talk, Brother Russell, about decentralization.
00:24:44.000I think you're absolutely right that the state has become captured by corporate power.
00:24:50.000And I know my dear brother RF Kennedy talks about that, Junior, and he's right as well.
00:24:55.000We resonate with the ways in which the state has been captured by corporate wealth.
00:25:00.000But the question becomes, how do you empower everyday people and working people in such a way that it doesn't reproduce centralization that tends to reproduce domination?
00:25:11.000And here we need to bring together some of the best minds.
00:25:14.000I'm not in any way suggesting that I have definitive answers.
00:25:18.000As a jazz man in politics, I know, just like Mary Lou Williams or Duke Ellington or Count Basie, I need a band.
00:25:26.000I got to have a variety of different voices and they come in all colors.
00:27:32.000The kind of things, again, Brother Bernie talked about now we're following through in a much more substantive way.
00:27:40.000And because we're free of the corruption of the neofascist Republican Party and the neoliberal Democratic Party, we're able to fundamentally speak the truth.
00:28:05.000You don't have to fit into the narrowness.
00:28:10.000Of a mainstream that tells you you've got to somehow contain yourself.
00:28:14.000That's what it is to be a part of the People's Party.
00:28:16.000That's what it is to be a part of the people's movement.
00:28:19.000That's why we are going to not just constitute a major challenge and threat to the status quo.
00:28:27.000We want to give concrete, fleshified hope in action to people who are losing hope.
00:28:35.000The people who are feeling helpless, people feeling as if there's no way out of this corporate duopoly.
00:28:44.000And I think in the end, it's still very much about style and the smile, though, man.
00:28:50.000We're going to preserve our style no matter what.
00:28:53.000And we're going to have a smile because we're coming together.
00:28:56.000Solidarity is about sustaining that kind of strong spine where you straighten your back up.
00:29:05.000And you speak what's on your mind and you fight for poor and working people wherever they are.
00:29:11.000Dr. Cornel West, I feel that it's possible to detect in the political conversation over the last 20 years and perhaps even beyond that an appetite for real change.
00:29:22.000Indeed, that's perhaps the word that defined Obama's campaign and eventual election.
00:29:29.000In the disdain that became apparent through Trump's candidature and eventual election for institutional corruption and perhaps best embodied in the easy maxim, drain the swamp, which we've already brought up today.
00:29:44.000The kind of despair that I feel people are beginning to feel around the presidency of Joe Biden.
00:29:51.000So many of the pledges made during his candidacy reneged on now and the sense that in his atrophy and visible decay he somehow is the perfect avatar for a system in decline, an unwillingness for a fragile, aging career
00:30:11.000politician to wield power well or yield it when necessary. To hear your vivacity, your
00:30:22.000passion, your intensity, your integrity and easy wisdom, I think is exciting for a lot of people. I
00:30:28.000feel for a long time there's been a real appetite and need for significant change.
00:30:35.000The figures that I've just listed all in their way representing it.
00:30:38.000You worked with Bernie Sanders, who I know a lot of people feel was sold out having voted along with militaristic policies since the election of Biden.
00:30:48.000And perhaps Bernie would have been better off remaining an independent.
00:30:53.000Do you feel that with the media operating in the way that it does, you will be given the sufficient opportunity to convey these points and indeed to build the band and make the alliances necessary for an undertaking like this?
00:31:07.000For if institutional or centralist politics means anything at all, it is the ability for these systems to represent the needs of those who most need it And to regard as important the individuality and freedom of people from across the cultural spectrum of America.
00:31:23.000People that have traditional perspectives around their religion and the way they want to organise their individual societies.
00:31:29.000People that have very progressive views.
00:31:33.000And indeed, for those kind of policies to be implemented, it seems, as you've just alluded to, that decentralisation would have to be a significant part of it.
00:31:42.000Are you willing to be the voice and carriage of an ideology that to a degree would be dismantling many of the corrupt deep state institutions that have bought America low, to break down some of the relationships between corporate interests and the democratic institutions that have meant that it's almost impossible for the voice of ordinary people to be heard?
00:32:06.000It seems like, like you said in your answer earlier, these are the kind of ideas and words that get people killed and that require, I think, a great deal of support.
00:32:19.000Well, one, I mean, the good news is that we have shows like your own.
00:32:31.000You got Brother Tavish, you got Brother Roland, you got a whole, you got a network of people that are trying to allow certain voices to have impact without being completely devoured by the corporate media.
00:32:48.000And the corporate media now is experiencing a level of legitimation crises, very much like the Republican Party's establishment that went under as neofascist Trump moved in, and the establishment of the Democratic Party that we almost pulled off with Brother Bernie.
00:33:40.000He missed that moment, and that's just my own view about this thing, but he still plays a very important role.
00:33:45.000So, I always like to begin with the good news, though, brother.
00:33:49.000The fact that you've got all of these men and people around the world listening to your powerful voice and vision and calling for the enabling virtue, which is courage.
00:33:59.000Because without courage, all the other virtues are empty.
00:34:03.000In my courage, we're not talking about self-righteousness.
00:34:05.000This is not a self-righteous campaign.
00:34:08.000You can't be a self-righteous jazz person.
00:34:14.000You got to listen to other voices, listen to other arguments, no matter where they are.
00:34:21.000The neo-fascists don't remain neo-fascists forever, just like we know a whole lot of leftists who become right-wing.
00:34:27.000People change, and you have to be open to their change, but We don't put up for one moment with forms of xenophobia against the most vulnerable trans precious folk, gay brothers, lesbian sisters, Arabs, Muslims, Jews, Palestinians, Uyghurs in China, the Dalit in India, the Roma in Europe.
00:34:55.000Landless peasants in Brazil, my own black folk catching so much indescribable hell in the American empire for 200 and some years up to this very moment.
00:35:28.000You know, Malcolm Little was a gangster before the Honorable Elijah Muhammad loved him.
00:35:32.000And the next thing you know, he becomes one of the greatest voices of the 20th century, such that he even has to call into question the Honorable Elijah Muhammad himself.
00:35:40.000He's growing, but there's still no Malcolm without Elijah.
00:35:43.000So that sense of acknowledging we're all in process.
00:35:48.000And that's true for empires as well, as well as people.
00:35:51.000Doctor, I think I've got a good question for you from our chat.
00:35:53.000You can join us on Locals by pressing the red button.
00:35:55.000This is from Bucky's Gal, who I'm guessing would be a kind of a person that would vote
00:36:01.000You tell me, if you're still there, Bucky's Gal.
00:36:05.000She says, or he says, "Doctor West, everything you're saying sounds nice in theory, but how
00:36:10.000can we care for other nations where we can't take care of our own?"
00:36:13.000When the government gets money from taxing the people, how do you plan to fund your endeavors without it coming out of our paychecks?
00:36:20.000Now I think Bucky's Gal there speaks for a lot of people who have concerns that Ideas that are supportive of people that are dispossessed.
00:36:28.000We've got an interesting statistic about inequality in American politics.
00:36:32.000You can flash that up when you get a chance, guys.
00:36:35.000That it somehow is going to be punitive on ordinary Americans.
00:36:38.000I feel like that the emerging libertarian movement gets a lot of juice from these kind of arguments.
00:36:45.000Doctor, how would you answer that question?
00:36:48.000Well, one, I appreciate the question, because we're here for conversation and dialogue.
00:36:53.000There is no doubt that what I'm talking about, in terms of satisfying the basic needs of the masses of folk in the country, and I'm concerned about the masses in the world, but poor and working people, requires a massive redistribution of wealth downward.
00:37:09.000In the last 40 years, we've seen a massive redistribution of wealth upwards.
00:37:17.000Working people making roughly the same wages 30 years later, but CEOs, those part of the well-to-do, moneyed elite, heading to the bank daily with millions of dollars.
00:37:34.000See, people don't like to raise that question.
00:37:36.000There has been a redistribution of wealth.
00:37:43.000Well, first, It has to do with a serious cutback in the millions and millions of dollars tied to the military-industrial complex.
00:37:56.000Secondly, it has to do with subsidies for corporate America.
00:38:00.000There has been, and this is where Brother Ralph Nader is absolutely right, there's been corporate welfare.
00:38:06.000For the last 45 years of free money, if one slice of that could have gone to poor people for education and housing, we'd have a different situation.
00:38:16.000If one slice of that had gone to dealing with our precious homeless brothers and sisters on the block, on the corner, in our cities.
00:39:29.000And to my Jewish brothers and sisters who would immediately come at me and say, oh, Brother West, you seem to be so preoccupied with the Palestinian brothers and sisters.
00:39:43.000And if there was a Palestinian occupation of Jewish brothers and sisters, I would be saying exactly the same thing in solidarity with Jewish brothers and sisters that I'm saying of a vicious Israeli occupation of Palestinians for Palestinian brothers and sisters, because A Jewish baby has exactly the same value as a Palestinian baby, and a Palestinian baby has the same value as a Jewish baby.
00:40:09.000I learned that in Shiloh Baptist Church on the chocolate side of Sacramento, California, and I will be faithful unto death to have that kind of moral and spiritual stance.
00:40:21.000So you can call me anti-Semitic, call me any name you want, but I'm not selling out.
00:40:28.000Oppress people no matter what color they are, no matter where they are.
00:40:34.000Dr. Cornel West, you're taking some incredibly important risks and explaining some really complex issues in beautiful languages.
00:40:42.000A lot of people already asking in the chat how they can contribute to your campaign.
00:40:46.000Go to cornellwest24.com to support Dr. West's campaign to become President of the United States of America.
00:40:53.000And I guess you're going to need a lot of grassroots support as well as all of the independent media support that you can muster.
00:41:05.000I feel like by bringing these complex issues to the forefront you do give us an opportunity to look differently at the divisive issue of race, the divisive issue of class.
00:41:15.000It seems that we're living in a very divisive time where ordinary people, and in a sense we're all ordinary, magnificent though we may be, are We are unable to address where power is centralising and how power is operating because we are focusing instead on other vulnerable people just like us, give or take a few superficial differences, the kind of differences that ought not be points of conflict but points of mutual learning and opportunity for new unity.
00:41:48.000Doctor, thank you so much for joining us.
00:41:49.000We'll do everything we can to support your campaign, Spread your message to facilitate conversations between you and Marianne Williamson and Robert F. Kennedy and voices that emerge elsewhere on the political spectrum, because I think what is important is the ability for people to have intelligent conversations about the nature of power, the nature of corruption and how meaningful change will be brought about.
00:42:10.000And I think no one has contributed more to that in recent years.
00:42:14.000In fact, in the last 25 minutes than you.
00:42:50.000It's lovely to have Dr. Cornel West on.
00:42:51.000When I was listening to him what I felt was It's amazing that he's entered the conversation and he sees as the target the same people that are regularly identified on our show and our channel because Dr. Cornel West in common with Vandana Shiva cannot be written off in the way that many people would be of like, oh, you're a right-wing fascist.
00:43:11.000You're a conspiracy theorist, you're a racist, the kind of things that are normally levelled
00:43:17.000at people that are really interested in attacking establishment power.
00:43:20.000Of course there's such things as racism, of course there's such things as conspiracy theorists,
00:43:24.000but what's really important is that there are centralised, corrupt, authoritarian institutions
00:43:30.000that we are not able to openly discuss anywhere other than on Rumble.
00:43:34.000That's why we're grateful to you for joining us.
00:43:36.000And I think the radical and powerful voices such as his and the names that you've mentioned in RFK recently are kind of growing in numbers and mentioning the same things over and over again.
00:43:47.000The things that we talk about, I mean it's fascinating how much he mentioned the military-industrial complex there.
00:43:53.000Things that across the board we're talking about and also these other people are talking about.
00:43:59.000You know, literally we just spoke about it earlier today.
00:44:01.000He's talking about censorship, he's talking about surveillance, he's talking about wealth transfers.
00:44:07.000All these things that we talk about and consistently get bundled in with your, you know, conspiracy theorists and this.
00:44:14.000And it's feeling to me much more like, as I say, the kind of voices are growing in these areas that we've been talking about for a while.
00:44:22.000I think we're talking about the right stuff and if you look at the various censorship laws that are being passed around the world we talked about it before on the show we've done a video on it and we were talking about it earlier today then you you have to question are all No.
00:44:36.000centralised authoritarian structures preparing to shut down this type of
00:44:41.000discourse wherever it's coming from. If it's coming from an avowedly and
00:44:45.000identifiably right-wing figure or a pretty plainly left-wing figure like
00:44:49.000Cornel West, they don't want people saying "hey the deep states corrupt, it's
00:44:53.000been totally corporatised but the bi-party system can't be relied on". I've had enough!
00:44:58.000Okay, so we'll be back tomorrow with Sir Dickie Dawkins himself, Richard Dawkins, talking about atheism and the light of the Lord in studio, in this very studio.