Stay Free - Russel Brand - Dr. Jay Bhattacharya (The Covid Dam Is Breaking!)

00:00:01.000 You have to listen!

00:00:02.000 Russell Brand is here in the U.S.

00:00:03.000 A voice that echoes across the land.

00:00:06.000 A beacon of hope in a world of chaos.

00:00:09.000 across the land.

00:00:10.000 The systemic change is required.

00:00:12.000 Money has to be taken out of politics.

00:00:15.000 We need new political systems that genuinely represent ordinary Americans so that we can

00:00:20.000 overcome cultural differences.

00:00:21.000 A beacon of hope in a world of chaos.

00:00:25.000 We sat down yesterday with Russell Brand.

00:00:28.000 Fresh off the Joe Rogan podcast.

00:00:30.000 How can you have energy companies that profit when there's an energy crisis, military industrial complex that profits when it's a war, pharmaceutical companies that profit when there's a pandemic?

00:00:38.000 You're creating the necessity for ongoing crisis.

00:00:41.000 Decentralization and meaningful attacks of systemic power are the only way that America and the world can progress.

00:00:41.000 Yes.

00:00:48.000 And did he bring systemic change?

00:00:50.000 Uh, no.

00:00:51.000 Not yet.

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00:01:15.000 Hello, you awakening wonders.

00:01:22.000 Hello, you awakening wonders.

00:01:25.000 Wherever you're watching this, you might be watching it on YouTube.

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00:01:44.000 An interesting look at the last couple of years of craziness.

00:01:47.000 I'm looking at the comments right now.

00:01:49.000 Look at what people are saying.

00:01:50.000 It's been a crazy time.

00:01:51.000 We've just got back from a tour of your country, America, if indeed you're in America.

00:01:56.000 to It's been insane.

00:02:16.000 We appeared on all sorts of media outlets, and obviously some of them caused a stir.

00:02:21.000 In particular, that Bill Maher appearance seems to have stirred up some conversation, which we're very, very grateful for.

00:02:27.000 We'll talk to you about that a little bit in a minute.

00:02:30.000 Let us know what you thought of it in the comments.

00:02:31.000 Remember, I can only take praise.

00:02:33.000 Just praise.

00:02:34.000 I still regret the fact that I didn't say Russiagate.

00:02:37.000 That's what I should have said.

00:02:38.000 Yeah, that was the big one.

00:02:39.000 Go on, Gareth, try and tell me something now about yourself or anything at all in life.

00:02:43.000 About me?

00:02:43.000 Yeah, go on.

00:02:44.000 Oh, well, I just have dreams sometimes.

00:02:45.000 Non-responsive!

00:02:46.000 Non-responsive!

00:02:48.000 That's what that guy says.

00:02:49.000 He did, yeah.

00:02:49.000 Non-responsive.

00:02:50.000 What does that even mean, non-responsive?

00:02:52.000 I don't even know what non-responsive is.

00:02:54.000 Hey, listen, after about 10, 20 minutes, in fact, I think we're going to stream for 30 minutes on YouTube today, but after that, we're going to be giving you some new information around the pandemic.

00:03:04.000 Chris Witte, he was the head.

00:03:05.000 He was our Fauci.

00:03:07.000 Apparently, at the beginning, he had some interesting questions about medication that Matt Hancock's leaked WhatsApp messages reveal were not communicated to the general public.

00:03:18.000 If you're an American, you won't know who Matt Hancock is, and you're bloody lucky not to know, frankly.

00:03:22.000 In our country, he was the head of the health.

00:03:24.000 He was the health minister, and he, in conjunction with Chris Witte, organized such as it was.

00:03:29.000 The response of the UK.

00:03:30.000 Well, his WhatsApp messages have been leaked and they reveal all sorts of extraordinary stuff.

00:03:34.000 We're going to be talking to Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, an open critic of lockdowns who called for herd immunity from the start.

00:03:40.000 We'll be talking to him.

00:03:41.000 So that will be when we click only onto Rumble.

00:03:45.000 But Let's have a look now at Chinese democracy.

00:03:48.000 Is it Chinese democracy?

00:03:49.000 Because Xi Jinping has been re-elected in his campaign to win an election against nobody at all.

00:03:57.000 That's who he was being.

00:03:58.000 You could vote for him or you could not vote at all.

00:04:01.000 I think that's in his own party.

00:04:03.000 Yeah.

00:04:03.000 Right.

00:04:03.000 I don't think that's of everyone.

00:04:04.000 I think that's within his own party.

00:04:06.000 He won unanimously though Gal.

00:04:07.000 He did win unanimously.

00:04:09.000 He beat No one at all, unanimously.

00:04:11.000 Correct.

00:04:12.000 I feel like that you wouldn't want to abstain or vote no against Xi Jinping.

00:04:16.000 No.

00:04:16.000 Because I feel like, I think he's strict.

00:04:19.000 Yeah, I reckon so.

00:04:20.000 That's the impression I'm getting.

00:04:21.000 And of almost 3,000 votes, he got them all.

00:04:24.000 Every single one of them.

00:04:25.000 Every single person.

00:04:26.000 Even, what if one person had gone, I don't like Xi Jinping.

00:04:29.000 I'm not afraid to say it.

00:04:31.000 And like, of course, many of us think that that's ridiculous and shows up up Chinese totalitarianism for the unipolar power system 0.91

00:04:39.000 that it is.

00:04:40.000 But consider the democracy so-called in our countries.

00:04:43.000 Is it meaningfully different or is it marginally different?

00:04:46.000 Is it just a better illusion?

00:04:48.000 Have a look at this moment where Joe Biden's, I mean, animatronic waxwork was revealed.

00:04:54.000 Better version of?

00:04:56.000 Yeah, I mean, obviously, if you have a look at Joe Biden's animatronic presidential representative, perhaps the first

00:05:02.000 thing you'll notice it's somewhat more cogent than the actual person in the

00:05:06.000 White House.

00:05:07.000 And with chatbot GPT advancing at the rate that it is, all you really would have to do is attach that to this animatronic presidential mannequin and improve democracy significantly.

00:05:18.000 But nevertheless, have a look at the animatronic Joe Biden.

00:05:21.000 and check him out.

00:05:29.000 Because he's got that, his chest is out.

00:05:31.000 His body language, in the primate world, you'd be attracted to that mannequin. 0.96

00:05:35.000 You could put that with Dian Fossey in the middle of one of them forests with a lot of silverback apes. 1.00

00:05:42.000 I think they'd respect that, Joe Biden.

00:05:43.000 Yeah, I see, yeah.

00:05:44.000 Do you think?

00:05:44.000 I think maybe, yeah.

00:05:46.000 Also, with all the sterm and drang around progressivism and American democracy, do you notice that sort of everyone, all of them waxworks, just looks basically the same?

00:05:56.000 I mean, you couldn't change any of them, couldn't you?

00:05:58.000 I mean, that's the result of like hundreds of years of democracy, is all of these guys.

00:05:58.000 Yeah.

00:06:03.000 None of them look that happy about it, do they?

00:06:04.000 No, the concept of suits has hardly changed as well.

00:06:07.000 They've barely changed it.

00:06:08.000 All that's happened is we've become a little more conservative around bow ties.

00:06:11.000 Neckwear has been tempered, hasn't it?

00:06:14.000 Like, no, a dress is only different.

00:06:16.000 Everyone's basically the same colour. 0.51

00:06:18.000 I mean, it's just, frankly, not enough.

00:06:20.000 No.

00:06:21.000 For hundreds of years of democracy.

00:06:22.000 Like, unless the Xi Jinping were to emerge... Xi Jinping, he wouldn't want any other animatronics, would he?

00:06:29.000 The Xi Jinping one would, like, chop them others away, wouldn't it?

00:06:34.000 Biden Jr. do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States

00:06:42.000 and I will to the best of my ability preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

00:06:51.000 So help me God.

00:06:53.000 Reality though, there's no way Trump's letting Biden speak for that long is it?

00:06:57.000 No way, and he wouldn't stand up the back like that.

00:06:59.000 He'd be clambering over that geyser in front of him.

00:07:01.000 He'd be in jail.

00:07:02.000 He'd be in jail.

00:07:04.000 Show us your kid's laptop.

00:07:06.000 Let's have a look at Jill Biden answering... Is she animatronic as well? 0.90

00:07:11.000 This is real Jill.

00:07:12.000 Oh, OK.

00:07:12.000 This is the real Jill, baby.

00:07:14.000 She's responding to questions about a potential cognitive test for the elderly.

00:07:21.000 I also think that's not... Like, you should...

00:07:23.000 Skip through a cognitive test if you're in office, shouldn't you?

00:07:27.000 You shouldn't fear it.

00:07:28.000 Sure.

00:07:28.000 But even if it was for, like, people... Yeah, it shouldn't be that thing that trips you up, is it?

00:07:32.000 No!

00:07:32.000 There shouldn't be a cognitive test.

00:07:33.000 You shouldn't be tested.

00:07:34.000 People should take a good faith that as you enter your decline and dotage, that you're sharp as a tack, even if there's strong evidence to the contrary.

00:07:41.000 So here, this CNN broadcaster puts it to Jill Biden that her husband should be subject to cognition tests as he enters the winter chill of later life.

00:07:50.000 Have a look.

00:07:51.000 Haley, one of the Republican candidates, is calling for mental competency tests for those politicians over the age of 75.

00:07:59.000 What do you think about that? 0.98

00:08:00.000 It's ridiculous. 0.89

00:08:03.000 It's not ridiculous. 0.86

00:08:04.000 It's not like, oh, don't do that.

00:08:06.000 I don't want to test people's cognizance.

00:08:09.000 You do want to, don't you?

00:08:10.000 I guess so, but I thought she might have more to say than just that.

00:08:13.000 What did she say anyway?

00:08:14.000 I should give her seven more seconds. 0.99

00:08:16.000 Would your husband ever take one of those?

00:08:19.000 I mean, we haven't even discussed, we would never even discuss something like that.

00:08:23.000 He's bloody well sure, because almost every time he crops up on the TV, he can't get to the stand of his own animatronic doppelganger.

00:08:31.000 This is his latest blunder behind a podium.

00:08:34.000 Check it.

00:08:35.000 If they have to pay out $159,000 billion.

00:08:36.000 150,000, 159,000 billion.

00:08:39.000 If the animatronic one done that, you'd go, "Glads, he's full stop again, he's glitching,

00:08:44.000 he's glitching." 0.70

00:08:45.000 And the animatronic would go, "14 years and four score,"

00:08:48.000 all that thing they always say about dreams and whatever.

00:08:50.000 If they did that, you'd lop its bonce off, wouldn't you?

00:08:52.000 Yeah, they would, mate.

00:08:53.000 You'd shut down Westworld on the basis of that.

00:08:55.000 If the animatronic one had He's able to lean into the errors now.

00:09:05.000 It's sort of become part of the shtick.

00:09:09.000 It's like a cue now isn't it?

00:09:11.000 It's a cue for people to laugh at that.

00:09:14.000 We all make mistakes and there's none of us that's perfect and in a sense I am sensitive to Joe Biden as an individual and as a human being, and it's not like he should be condemned and criticized for mental decline.

00:09:25.000 It's merely an obvious emblem of the atrophying system of which he is a symbol.

00:09:31.000 Just want to talk to you guys a little bit about the tour of America.

00:09:35.000 I went on Joe Rogan.

00:09:36.000 That was a laugh.

00:09:37.000 Went on Bill Maher.

00:09:38.000 You probably saw the bit where I talked about MSNBC and all that kind of stuff.

00:09:43.000 And in Florida, which I like, it's so bloody warm and lovely there.

00:09:47.000 Isn't it?

00:09:47.000 That's where the Rumble headquarters are.

00:09:49.000 I went to the Rumble headquarters.

00:09:50.000 That was an amazing moment.

00:09:51.000 I know, I was right with you.

00:09:52.000 What about the first bit though?

00:09:54.000 I wasn't there.

00:09:55.000 That's the bit where we went to a party and there was a sort of a wall with people passing champagne through holes in a wall at us.

00:10:00.000 Yeah, I've heard about this.

00:10:01.000 That was incredible.

00:10:01.000 I'm a bit jealous.

00:10:02.000 Yeah, it was a good bit.

00:10:03.000 Donald Trump Jr.

00:10:04.000 and Kimberly, that lady. 1.00

00:10:06.000 From Fox News.

00:10:07.000 Fox News, one of the Fox Five, who's really overtly criticised me in the past.

00:10:10.000 Yeah.

00:10:11.000 So nice.

00:10:12.000 Like all of the people, like Tucker Carlson, Greg Gutfield.

00:10:17.000 Friendly.

00:10:18.000 So friendly.

00:10:19.000 The main thing that's come from this visit to America and appearing in what are known as right-wing spaces, places it would have been inconceivable for me to have visited even a few years ago.

00:10:29.000 Check out the video of me outside Fox News just a few years ago, baiting the security there, baiting them.

00:10:36.000 Don't put that out, that's not helping me.

00:10:38.000 Thank you.

00:10:38.000 Thank you very much for the distraction.

00:10:40.000 Thanks guys.

00:10:43.000 You wouldn't have been able to imagine that I would go on to shows like that, but now I've gone in there and had conversations that I think are... I don't know if they're significant culturally, but I reckon they're the type of conversation that we need to have.

00:10:55.000 Essentially, the alliances can be formed by people on the periphery, regardless of what their political allegiance is.

00:11:03.000 For example, you might be super into progressivism, identity

00:11:06.000 politics, social justice, BLM.

00:11:09.000 Or you might be ultra-traditional, conservative, religious.

00:11:12.000 And you've got more in common with other people on the periphery of the cultural debate

00:11:17.000 than you do with centralized authoritarianism as represented by media power and current congressional

00:11:23.000 political power and financial power.

00:11:25.000 These kind of alliances, I believe, can meaningfully change the political discourse.

00:11:30.000 And people that say that we should remain separated from one another in ossified camps, in communicative,

00:11:36.000 are those that take advantage of the lack of communication and the lack of potential alliance.

00:11:43.000 I'm pretty different from someone like Ben Shapiro, and chatting to Ben Shapiro, I got the, well I didn't get the idea, I literally put it to him.

00:11:50.000 Ben, would you stand on a platform with people that were into like trans issues and like were literally pro-choice and stuff that Ben Shapiro, I think it's safe to say, pretty avowedly disagrees with.

00:12:03.000 If it meant that you would have the authority to run your community school system, health education independently as a part of an autonomous community, they could run their communities autonomously.

00:12:13.000 Essentially what we're talking about is the necessity for decentralisation, and I think this is the big idea that I'm interested in, and I'm largely informed if you're a regular viewer of this show, you'll know, by Martin Gurry's ideas from the book The Revolt of the Public, where he argues that since the information age utterly annihilated the pre-existing centralised media and power systems, It became necessary either to have more centralised authoritarianism or a different set of publics coagulating around different issues and ultimately creating more democracies, i.e.

00:12:45.000 devolve power wherever possible.

00:12:47.000 Of course there's complexity in that, you're not going to just wave a magic wand and suddenly create new confederacies all over the world.

00:12:54.000 It's going to be a challenging idea, but I think that ordinary people by and large

00:12:58.000 will benefit regardless of how you identify whether a traditional or progressive person.

00:13:02.000 And that's the conversation that I was trying to advance.

00:13:04.000 And that's what interests me because you can apparently have those conversations in right wing spaces,

00:13:09.000 presumably because they're anti-authoritarian, but you can't have them in neoliberal spaces.

00:13:14.000 That interests me, that does.

00:13:16.000 It fascinates me that that's where you can have the conversation.

00:13:19.000 I was also fascinated to find out that people on the avowed, committed, and determined

00:13:24.000 right were equally critical of centralized authority and centralized power.

00:13:29.000 Like Tucker Carlson said, I don't have no alliance to the Republican Party no more.

00:13:34.000 Like Steven Crowder that we spoke to to help him launch his new show on Rumble.

00:13:40.000 He was saying, I don't have no alliance.

00:13:43.000 These people are overtly and explicitly right wing.

00:13:46.000 And all of these conversations were couched in, I don't agree with you on a bunch of issues.

00:13:49.000 a bunch, it's a long, long list. But ultimately, where we are now is we're at a point where if we're

00:13:55.000 not willing to allow other people to have different views from us, then we're going to remain entrenched

00:14:00.000 and intransigent in a static situation that benefits people that are already running the system.

00:14:07.000 That was, I guess, the main take-home of that trip. Yeah, it was. And I think a lot of the

00:14:11.000 publicity around this and the kind of hit pieces that were coming out were really

00:14:16.000 misrepresenting what you were doing.

00:14:19.000 And overtly your point about going on all of these shows was to say we have things that we disagree on, points where we disagree, but through communication, through conversing, through coming up and talking through these ideas, talking through the complexity and the nuance, which obviously people don't enjoy in the public sphere anymore, certainly not in the media sphere, That we can reach conclusions, we can reach ways in which we do agree in forming alliances through this and that was present throughout all these interviews.

00:14:47.000 Wasn't it, isn't it also an issue that comes up, let me know if you agree with us, let me know in the chat right now, with what's happening with the Jan Sixth stuff and Tucker Carlson and what's happening to Matt Taibbi and Schellenberger with these congressional hearings.

00:14:58.000 Ultimately centralised power is making this claim, You, ordinary people, the public, all of us I'm putting in that category of ordinary people, i.e.

00:15:07.000 human beings with eyes and faces and feet and stuff, are unable to discern the truth for ourselves and information needs to be centrally controlled and censored in order for us to make decisions.

00:15:20.000 with the January 6th stuff, whether you like Tucker Carlson or agree with Tucker Carlson or not, and I told him when we're in that conversation, he goes, Have you found yourself having conversations with people that you wouldn't agree with?

00:15:20.000 i.e.

00:15:31.000 And I went, yeah, you.

00:15:32.000 And I told him that I didn't agree with his stance on, for example, homelessness.

00:15:36.000 And he said that he regretted some of the things that he said about homelessness.

00:15:40.000 But obviously, the information that Fox News or the footage that Fox News are releasing around January the 6th has been edited.

00:15:48.000 But the fact that that shaman dude didn't get access to it for his own legal defense is interesting.

00:15:55.000 And it's pretty clear that it's a story that's being used without endorsing any, whether you want to call it an insurrection or a protest or however you want to understand it, whatever suits you.

00:16:05.000 You know, I don't know what's best for you to describe it.

00:16:08.000 How is it being used?

00:16:09.000 Because what we're seeing again and again are crisis situations utilised to centralise power.

00:16:16.000 9-11, which obviously I acknowledge was a tragedy, was used to legitimise more surveillance.

00:16:21.000 The pandemic was used to legitimise more regulation and lockdowns.

00:16:25.000 And it seems, if Matt Hancock's WhatsApp leaks are to be believed, that even scientists, the scientists upon whose opinion we were most reliant, were being curtailed, directed and controlled.

00:16:38.000 We'll talk more about that exclusively on Rumble when we click over, because indeed, our raison d'etre For joining Rumble, it's specifically so we can have these conversations directly with you, because I think you can understand nuance.

00:16:50.000 I think you can discern for yourself what the truth is.

00:16:52.000 That you can look at me and say, oh, Russell Brand's got his own biases.

00:16:55.000 He's going to make mistakes sometimes, plainly.

00:16:57.000 Look at how he dresses.

00:16:57.000 Look at him.

00:16:58.000 He's not making a claim to know everything, and I probably know even less than I think that I know.

00:17:03.000 The amount I know about reality is negligible.

00:17:06.000 The sum total of human knowledge is negligible in the limitless expanse of all potential realities.

00:17:11.000 So the fact that different people see the world differently is something that's going to have to be understood and embraced.

00:17:15.000 On the subject of January the 6th, I think it was Daily Wire that published this, who I also had conversations with and very much enjoyed them.

00:17:22.000 January 6th was, according to White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre, the worst attack on our democracy since the Civil War.

00:17:28.000 Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer explained that the riot of Jan 6th was a violent insurrection And in order to preserve democracy, Schumer stated Fox News should take Tucker Carlson off the air.

00:17:37.000 I think as a general rule, those that are advocating for censorship and more centralized control ought be regarded skeptically.

00:17:45.000 Skeptically.

00:17:47.000 And note how that story relates to this headline.

00:17:50.000 Congress approves a $2.1 billion emergency funding bill for Capitol Police.

00:17:53.000 So does it seem like... Let's take this line.

00:17:56.000 January 6th was completely wrong.

00:17:57.000 Let's describe it in the worst possible terms.

00:17:59.000 It was an insurrection.

00:18:00.000 It was an attempt to overthrow the brilliant and well-functioning democracy of America that doesn't need any change.

00:18:06.000 Let's take that line.

00:18:08.000 Do you feel like they have amplified its significance in order to legitimise this $2.1 billion emergency bill?

00:18:15.000 Let me know in the chat.

00:18:16.000 Let me know in the comments.

00:18:17.000 Do you think you can handle nuanced information, a diverse range of POVs on a subject like this, so that you can make your own mind up about it? 1.00

00:18:26.000 Or would you prefer that the government and the media censored it for you because you're too stupid? 0.99

00:18:30.000 I mean, it seems like a rhetorical trick to even say that because it's so bloody obvious what the answer is, isn't it? 1.00

00:18:36.000 Yeah, I think that's what it is.

00:18:37.000 I think it's the lack of nuance, isn't it?

00:18:39.000 I mean, you can think whatever you want about Tucker and Fox's reporting of the Jansic stuff recently.

00:18:45.000 You can say that they're cherry-picking information and editing stuff, and I'm sure that's true.

00:18:50.000 In the same way that maybe on the other side things were cherry-picked or, I don't know, exaggerated to paint a certain narrative in one way.

00:18:57.000 But either way you look at it, if the end result is what you get to, is an increase in laws around protest, which is definitely happening.

00:19:06.000 As Branko Markicic writes in the Jacobin from last year, I don't know if we'll get to this here, but he says, what we've got instead is one thing, the only thing that the Washington establishment and depressingly many rank and file liberals clearly still believe the country is capable of doing.

00:19:22.000 Ramping up the national security state, In response to the Capitol riot, the Capitol Police have become a national, unfoilable anti-terrorism squad.

00:19:29.000 The FBI has doubled the number of its domestic counterterror agents, and consequently its domestic terrorism caseload, an explosion of anti-protest laws, and there's talk of more security state expansion to come.

00:19:41.000 And so this is, you could argue, what they wanted to happen anyway.

00:19:45.000 A lot like we talk about the pandemic and things that occurred in the pandemic.

00:19:48.000 Did they want this to happen anyway?

00:19:51.000 Did they want the police state to increase?

00:19:53.000 Did they want more militarisation of the police?

00:19:55.000 Did they want to crack down on protest?

00:19:57.000 Is that a legitimate question?

00:19:58.000 Let us know in the chat and the comments where you fall on that issue.

00:20:02.000 Now, what I would say we have to do to be discerning and to be responsible is not go to the right extreme, particularly the I think that if you say that and you can't prove that, that plays into their hands.

00:20:12.000 What you can say is that these things advantage establishment power.

00:20:14.000 the January 6th was entirely constructed by deep state agencies. I think that if

00:20:17.000 you say that and you can't prove that, that plays into their hands. What you can

00:20:21.000 say is that these things advantage establishment power.

00:20:26.000 They legitimize extra expenditure, they legitimize extra regulation.

00:20:31.000 Now, before we click over to being exclusively on Rumble, where we'll be talking in depth about some of the revelations that Matt Hancock's text messages reveal, not to mention Robert Redfield and his eerily close to Robert Redford name, like that dude's got a bunch of revelations that are pretty fascinating as well.

00:20:48.000 I want to have a look for a moment at Matt Taibbi's Congressional hearing, because similarly, there's that air of piety and condescension and the assumption that we, the people, to quote your congressional or

00:20:58.000 constitutional document, you know, we the people, that's the three great words, we

00:21:02.000 the people, we have one common interest ultimately, we're all born, we're all gonna

00:21:06.000 die. If you have a look at that, this Congress folk person, Debbie Wasserman 0.55

00:21:10.000 Schultz, her attitude to Matt Taibbi and Michael Schellenberger, both of

00:21:16.000 whom have been guests on the show, along with Barry Weiss, another of the

00:21:18.000 Twitterphile journalists, excellent journalists, people that, you know,

00:21:21.000 I'm sure we wouldn't agree with on everything, but that doubtlessly have incredible

00:21:24.000 integrity, work incredibly hard, the approach of this Congresswoman is so...

00:21:29.000 So reductive, so condemnatory, critical, personal.

00:21:32.000 Are you making money out of this?

00:21:34.000 What are you doing here, you so-called journalists?

00:21:36.000 So critical, so rude.

00:21:37.000 And yet, of course, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, in 2016, was forced to step aside after a leak of internal Democratic Party emails showed officials actively favouring Hillary Clinton during the presidential primary and plotting against Clinton's rival Bernie Sanders.

00:21:51.000 Plotting against?

00:21:52.000 We were just simply plotting against him.

00:21:55.000 Very democratic.

00:21:57.000 These plots don't seem particularly democratic, do they?

00:22:00.000 What's interesting to me is any peripheral figure, whether they are of the left or of the right, are against centralised authoritarian agenda.

00:22:10.000 Let's have a little look at Debbie Wasserman Schultz in particular. 1.00

00:22:14.000 Talking to Matt Tybee and just note the attitude and manner and after this of course we're going to be clicking over to being exclusively on Rumble where you can watch us freely and without fear of intervention or censorship.

00:22:28.000 God knows that's why we're there and we'll be talking a little more about some of the you know the fast track vaccine stuff and all sorts of interesting things that we wouldn't talk about on this platform because of well respect for this platform's regulations and because we need to continue to broadcast on the platform.

00:22:42.000 Let's have a look at Debbie Wesserman Schultz now. 1.00

00:22:45.000 Mr. Taibbi, I want to ask about journalistic ethics and information sources.

00:22:49.000 The Society of Professional Journalists' Code of Ethics asserts that journalists should avoid political activities

00:22:54.000 that can compromise integrity or credibility.

00:22:57.000 Being a Republican witness today certainly casts a cloud over your objectivity.

00:23:02.000 Also, what's that condemnation about--

00:23:05.000 it's a two-party country, and they're trying to denounce one of the parties in a two party system.

00:23:12.000 You have to be a witness for one of them.

00:23:14.000 What have you got to be, an orb of pure consciousness speaking on behalf of the limitless love that underwrites all potential realities?

00:23:21.000 Calling now to the stand God, although God, I don't like the way that you're using the English language, that shows a whole set of biases.

00:23:28.000 deeper concern that I have relates to the ethics of how journalists receive and present certain information.

00:23:33.000 Journalists should avoid accepting spoon-fed, cherry-picked information if it's likely to be slanted, incomplete, or

00:23:39.000 designed to reach a foregone easily disputed or invalid conclusion. Would you agree with

00:23:44.000 that?

00:23:45.000 I think it depends.

00:23:50.000 Really?

00:23:51.000 You wouldn't agree that a journalist should avoid spoon-fed, cherry-picked information if it's likely to be slanted?

00:23:56.000 He's the one that's advocating for more censorship.

00:23:59.000 Let's not forget what this hearing is about.

00:24:02.000 It's about not allowing Twitter to censor information to prevent us receiving information and discerning for ourselves what we want to believe.

00:24:12.000 The Twitter files revealed the depth of Organisation, conversation and liaison between government agencies such as the FBI and CIA and social media platforms.

00:24:23.000 That wasn't declared.

00:24:24.000 That's not explicit.

00:24:25.000 They're supposed to be the new public spheres to use the parlance or nomenclature that most people use to describe it.

00:24:32.000 Also the condescending tone of her.

00:24:35.000 Yeah, you can't imagine us speaking to someone from the mainstream media in the same way.

00:24:40.000 And the way that they're described also as, like, so-called journalists by another congressperson.

00:24:44.000 You know, it's so... We're talking down to them and demeaning for someone who's had, like, such a long career.

00:24:51.000 I mean, both of them, they're very credible journalists.

00:24:54.000 And you can't help but think that this is a war at the same time as being a war on information.

00:25:00.000 It's a war on independent journalism at the same time.

00:25:02.000 Absolutely.

00:25:03.000 Again, referring to Martin Gurry's book, The Revolt of the Public, there is now the ability to convey counter narratives.

00:25:09.000 It's happening right now.

00:25:11.000 That's literally what we're doing.

00:25:12.000 That's literally why they are looking for new ways to censor and control emergent social media spaces, because they've already co-opted the mainstream media.

00:25:21.000 The mainstream media, who get the majority of their revenue through sponsorship and data capture, are not in a position to communicate openly with the public in the same way that democracy is unable to meaningfully represent and demonstrate the will of ordinary people because of the manner of their funding, because of the efficacy of lobbying, All of these centralised tenants of established power have been co-opted.

00:25:42.000 You know that.

00:25:43.000 You don't need me to tell you that.

00:25:44.000 This is just part of a conversation we're having.

00:25:46.000 Let me know if you agree in the chat, in the comments.

00:25:48.000 We're going to click over to rumble at 30 minutes as discussed and agreed.

00:25:52.000 So we'll go over to that.

00:25:54.000 I'll stick to time.

00:25:56.000 Absolutely.

00:25:57.000 Meanwhile I just want to run through some of the information that we were conveying when we were appearing on some of these shows.

00:26:02.000 This is some stuff that I think is valuable and in fact if you watch me on Tucker you'll see that I read it there.

00:26:08.000 In fact maybe like you know I The continual claim that I oughtn't be appearing on right-wing, allegedly right-wing spaces, I think is undermined by some of the things that I was able to say.

00:26:21.000 Can you imagine, let me know in the chat and the comments, if you think I would have been able to say this sort of stuff on CNN or MSNBC.

00:26:27.000 This is, when I was on Tucker, I read out a bunch of stats that demonstrate that both the Republican Party and the Democrat Party receive their funding in similar ways, tend to have particular voting patterns and are ultimately operating at

00:26:41.000 the behest of a one centralised system. Have a look.

00:26:44.000 Hello America. In the world of energy, you know energy, that we require to do stuff to

00:26:52.000 move things about to warm our homes, at least 100 members of Congress own fossil fuel stocks

00:26:56.000 of which 59 are Republicans and 41 are Democrats. 0.70

00:27:00.000 Oh, look, the Republicans are a bit worse.

00:27:02.000 Pharma, of the $263 million of the pharmaceutical industry spent on lobbying in 2021, it gave 61% to the Democrat Party and 39% to the Republicans.

00:27:11.000 Oh, no, the Democrat Party is a bit worse.

00:27:13.000 Wall Street.

00:27:15.000 In 2022, commercial banks spent over $30 million lobbying Congress.

00:27:18.000 61% to the Republicans and 39% to the Democrats.

00:27:22.000 Oh no, look, the Republicans are a bit worse.

00:27:23.000 Let's see what's coming next.

00:27:25.000 Nearly 20% of Congress members, 49 Democrats and 44 Republicans have been trading shares of companies in industries they are supposed to be overseeing as part of their committee assignment.

00:27:35.000 Each one of these facts indicates a potential solution to the problem that it describes.

00:27:40.000 Don't let members of Congress own stocks at all.

00:27:45.000 Pharma, do not accept lobbying money from the pharmaceutical industry.

00:27:50.000 It's a health industry.

00:27:52.000 The interest should be, as the Hippocratic Oath declares, to do no harm and, get this, maybe even help people.

00:27:59.000 And if you remove the gargantuan motivation for profit, and I'm not talking about ending trade and profit

00:28:06.000 and all of those kind of extremist arguments, I'm simply saying this is a behemoth.

00:28:10.000 This is corporate gigantism.

00:28:12.000 This is an outgrowth.

00:28:13.000 This is a tumour.

00:28:15.000 This has gone too far.

00:28:16.000 And it is possible to change it.

00:28:18.000 And people that say it's not possible to change it are invested in it staying the same.

00:28:22.000 I feel like that's an important point.

00:28:23.000 God, you've changed your tune, haven't you? 1.00

00:28:25.000 You mad fascist. 0.99

00:28:26.000 You really have changed your tune. 1.00

00:28:28.000 That's advocating for real democracy, isn't it?

00:28:31.000 It's exactly the same things that you were saying five, six, seven years ago.

00:28:35.000 Yeah, it is, isn't it?

00:28:36.000 Exactly the same.

00:28:37.000 We've been saying this stuff for ages.

00:28:39.000 Well done ignoring us.

00:28:40.000 You've made a sensible decision.

00:28:42.000 Have a look at this moment on Greg Gutfield, where Greg Gutfield talked about the tumbling IQ of the nation and it was an opportunity to talk about the research that Gareth and I did.

00:28:55.000 Well, Gareth did the research, let me be clear.

00:28:57.000 About the funding of education.

00:28:59.000 This isn't, I would say, an avowedly, using conventional terminology, left-wing point.

00:29:05.000 But again, these kind of terms, as you're saying in the comments, they're not valuable terms anymore.

00:29:11.000 These systems are falling apart.

00:29:12.000 We need a new language.

00:29:14.000 We need a new lingua franca, new axioms, a new vernacular, a new way of speaking about this stuff.

00:29:21.000 Because otherwise, if we stay in entrenched, ossified, oppositional camps, That tension allows centralised authority to continue operating in the way it is.

00:29:30.000 And just I think the general atmosphere on this show is pretty friendly.

00:29:34.000 I think it was.

00:29:35.000 I mean, you know, I guess the point of this about IQ and education was potentially to lead us into kind of culture war territory.

00:29:41.000 And what you did, or what we did, especially was to drag out of that and take it into like the fundamentals of Poverty and like how Americans are living and how American children are living and being educated and they totally allowed you to do that.

00:29:55.000 They totally did.

00:29:56.000 Actually they applauded at the end.

00:29:58.000 That's pretty good because that's a thing if I can make anything clear to you now is that you oughtn't allow them to frame the argument.

00:30:05.000 You can reject the framing.

00:30:07.000 For example if you find yourself in a contentious area Like immigration or gun control.

00:30:12.000 You can continually move the focus back to centralised authority, transnational corporations, unelected bodies able to mandate policy.

00:30:21.000 If you continue to focus on that, then these things, while very significant and important, needn't divide us.

00:30:27.000 This is what I truly believe in.

00:30:29.000 Is it possible for people that stand on traditional orthodox platforms to stand with people on progressive social justice platforms and agree to have a truce in order To change the world meaningfully.

00:30:40.000 Let's have a look at me on Greg Garfield.

00:30:41.000 And we both agree that he's using the Garfield logo.

00:30:45.000 He must be.

00:30:46.000 Let us know in the chat.

00:30:47.000 Is that a Garfield logo?

00:30:48.000 Is that what he's doing?

00:30:49.000 By the way, super friendly, super friendly guy.

00:30:51.000 Very kind.

00:30:52.000 Lovely.

00:30:52.000 Very nice.

00:30:53.000 Couldn't be kinder.

00:30:53.000 Let's have a look.

00:30:54.000 Worried about the IQ decline?

00:30:56.000 Yes I am and actually I've got a series of good points to make because education is fundamentally affected by poverty and here are some facts to help us understand this.

00:31:05.000 It won't take very long and I'm doing this because I respect you and I love you.

00:31:09.000 I'm really reading out some actual facts, okay?

00:31:11.000 I love you, if it gets boring you can obviously stop me and we could perhaps wrestle, that would be a brief...

00:31:17.000 Gotta beat her first. 0.99

00:31:20.000 I would prefer that order, Tyrus.

00:31:23.000 Work the room.

00:31:24.000 If I began wrestling with Emily, I might not get round to you.

00:31:26.000 Could we prolong this for just another couple of decades?

00:31:32.000 You are running out of time for your match.

00:31:34.000 Tyrus is waiting!

00:31:36.000 Okay, so listen to this.

00:31:37.000 According to Global Citizen, poverty is the main barrier to education in the United States.

00:31:42.000 I want to draw your collective attention to the pandemic.

00:31:45.000 I think we all understand that during the pandemic, education declined.

00:31:48.000 Now I can see that Greg's only got a one minute break, a one minute to a commercial, so I've got to wrap this up.

00:31:51.000 I have other panellists, Russell.

00:31:53.000 Huh?

00:31:54.000 I have other panellists.

00:31:55.000 Oh, thanks for coming!

00:32:00.000 Now listen, during that pandemic period, billionaires added five trillion to their fortunes.

00:32:04.000 That means that during the pandemic, a new billionaire was created every single day, while extreme poverty increased everywhere, while small businesses closed everywhere.

00:32:14.000 Now I'm going to say something on Fox News that until recently would not have been possible.

00:32:17.000 As President, Donald Trump's tax cuts helped billionaires pay less taxes than the working class in 2018.

00:32:23.000 For the first time in American history, the 400 wealthiest people paid a lower tax rate than any other group.

00:32:28.000 But check this out, Fox News viewers, because you're going to like this bit.

00:32:31.000 In October 2021, Democrats scaled back plans for a crackdown on tax cheating.

00:32:36.000 Bowing to an aggressive lobbying campaign by the banking industry, while Joe Biden told rich donors on the campaign trail that nothing would fundamentally change if he were elected president.

00:32:45.000 So like some of the great points in your monologue, other than that reference that I was a bit like Rasputin, although he was a pretty crazy sexy guy.

00:32:53.000 Yeah, so I think that those are good points, although I know the main thing you're looking at is how good your hair looked and beard.

00:32:59.000 I'm so happy with my beard on that show.

00:33:01.000 Cam, who did my hair and makeup, well done.

00:33:03.000 What a great job was done by her there.

00:33:06.000 I feel like it'd be able to go on Fox News and say that Donald Trump's policies were negative.

00:33:11.000 Yeah, look, that's the Garfield logo, by the way, guys.

00:33:14.000 I'd like to say that Donald Trump impecuniated or impugned or was negative for ordinary working people.

00:33:21.000 I think it's a pretty positive thing.

00:33:22.000 Let me know in the chat and the comments.

00:33:24.000 And also, that fact about a billionaire being created, not every day, it's actually every 30 hours.

00:33:29.000 30 hours.

00:33:29.000 I noticed you did that.

00:33:30.000 A day and a bit.

00:33:31.000 It sounded better.

00:33:32.000 Sounds better.

00:33:32.000 A billionaire a day.

00:33:33.000 It's more effective.

00:33:34.000 Now listen, we've got to leave YouTube now because we are exclusively on Rumble.

00:33:39.000 Why?

00:33:40.000 Because we can speak freely on Rumble and we've got a story that we've got to tell you.

00:33:45.000 Fauci has got this sort of magic lab leak theory about how how like it could have come from that market.

00:33:52.000 It's like they're determined to believe that that market...

00:33:55.000 Are you anti-wet markets or something?

00:33:57.000 Is that what this is really about?

00:33:59.000 But we can't do it here on YouTube if you're watching this.

00:34:02.000 There's a link in the description.

00:34:03.000 Click over to Rumble.

00:34:05.000 Join us there.

00:34:05.000 You'll be okay.

00:34:07.000 We love you there.

00:34:08.000 We welcome everybody.

00:34:09.000 You couldn't have an identity that I wouldn't love because I recognize that there's a unitary force

00:34:14.000 underneath all reality that is bringing us back together.

00:34:16.000 The separation is an illusion.

00:34:18.000 That's why conversations have to be had in a spirit of love.

00:34:22.000 Let's see what ex-CDC chief Dr. Robert Redfield claims.

00:34:25.000 We're going to leave you now on YouTube.

00:34:26.000 Join us exclusively on Rumble for the rest of this chat.

00:34:29.000 Let me know in the comments what you think of it.

00:34:30.000 Thank you.

00:34:31.000 Okay, former Centers for Disease Control and Prevention director Dr. Robert Redfield told Lawmakers Wednesday that Fauci sidelined him from internal debates about the origin of COVID-19 at the start of the pandemic, saying the former White House chief medical advisor did not appreciate Redfield support for the so-called lab leak theory.

00:34:49.000 What do you think?

00:34:50.000 This is a high up member of the CDC.

00:34:53.000 You know, it's if you're not then taking.

00:34:55.000 So we already understood from those documents and those leaked emails that were, you know, heavily redacted, that there was a conversation around the origins at the time.

00:35:04.000 And they went with only one of those, which was the most convenient.

00:35:09.000 And we know that, but now we're also finding out that people within Insight, so the scientists that we supposedly are meant to follow, did already share these opinions, but obviously weren't allowed to have them.

00:35:19.000 So they were saying follow the science, but they themselves were not following the science, they were ignoring and sidelining the science, not just in your country, the United States of America.

00:35:28.000 But also in ours.

00:35:30.000 Have a look, though, first, before we get into Chris Whitty, who was saying that he had concerns about vaccines, that vaccinating a population in the middle of a pandemic, particularly when it has a low fatality rate, was not sensible.

00:35:40.000 He was sidelined.

00:35:41.000 The WhatsApp messages leaked by from our former health secretary, Matt Hancock, reveal this.

00:35:46.000 So whether it's your country or ours, and I suspect wherever you are in the world, Centralised financial globalist forces were able to conspire, collaborate at very least, in order to get the required outcome.

00:35:59.000 And remember, as Karlyn says, you don't need a conspiracy where interests converge.

00:36:03.000 This is about nothing other than dominion and economic interests and systemic thinking.

00:36:06.000 It ain't about individuals within it.

00:36:08.000 It's not worth condemning individuals.

00:36:10.000 It won't get you in here.

00:36:11.000 But I'd love to see this thing where Fauci has a magic lab theory.

00:36:15.000 You know, just to like give, I suppose, a little counterbalance to it, like I still think it might have, they still might have been thinking we ultimately, even though there's all these other opinions, we still think collectively that this is the best way to go.

00:36:28.000 The problem with it all is that the conversations aren't allowed to happen. 0.99

00:36:31.000 That's so stupid! 1.00

00:36:32.000 People are too stupid to understand. 1.00

00:36:34.000 Do you see how often that comes up again and again? 1.00

00:36:36.000 There's an underlying belief that you're too stupid to discern information for yourself. 1.00

00:36:39.000 And I know you don't like that. 1.00

00:36:41.000 I know that the success of figures like Joe Rogan in this space is because there are conversations that people can listen.

00:36:46.000 People can make mistakes.

00:36:47.000 People make mistakes all the time.

00:36:48.000 Apologise for it, move on.

00:36:49.000 Not this ongoing piety and certainty, particularly when they're coming up with crackpot theories like the magic leak theory.

00:36:55.000 Let's have a look at Fauci espousing that.

00:36:58.000 A lab leak could be that someone was out in the wild, maybe looking for different types of viruses in bats.

00:37:07.000 You're having a day off from the lab.

00:37:11.000 What do you do to relax?

00:37:13.000 You go out into the wilds.

00:37:15.000 You're looking in a bat cave. 1.00

00:37:17.000 All of a sudden, some son of a bitch bat coughs on you. 1.00

00:37:20.000 Now, instead of becoming Batman, you get back to the lab like that song, The Monster Mash. 0.99

00:37:25.000 I was working in the lab one night.

00:37:28.000 If you're working there, he's still trying to cling on to the idea that it's the wild, blaming nature and the wet market rather than, it's clearly come from meddling in bat coronaviruses, isn't it?

00:37:41.000 Yeah, I think those scientists tend to be pretty busy.

00:37:44.000 I don't think they're like doing science one day and then going off to the jungle for like an Indiana Jones exploration the next, are they?

00:37:51.000 It's not Tarzan the Ape Man, like, working in that lab, now back to the jungle with Cheetah and Jane and stuff. 0.96

00:37:58.000 You're down that lab, you're working long shifts, that's probably why they're so knackered, spilling back coronaviruses.

00:38:04.000 We had colds at the time, we know that.

00:38:06.000 We don't feel very well, we feel weary, we're achy, we're knackered.

00:38:09.000 If only there was some immersive, mandated solution to all of this that wouldn't give

00:38:14.000 us any choice as to whether or not we take it.

00:38:17.000 Got infected, went into a lab, and was being studied in a lab, and then came out of the

00:38:22.000 lab.

00:38:23.000 But if that's the definition of a lab leak, Jim, then that still is a natural occurrence.

00:38:28.000 Oh my God!

00:38:30.000 It's the lab!

00:38:31.000 Could it be the lab?

00:38:32.000 Is it possible for it to be?

00:38:34.000 He really determined.

00:38:35.000 He's talking about that lab like it was a lab for, I don't know, something completely unrelated.

00:38:40.000 Food colouring, hair products, something like that.

00:38:42.000 They are working on bat coronaviruses, isn't it? 1.00

00:38:45.000 OK, let's have a look at this story about Chris Whitty.

00:38:48.000 He's the UK dude.

00:38:50.000 Check out these leaks from Matt Hancock's Tech Messages.

00:38:53.000 The Chief Medical Officer said, this is Chris Whitty, a Covid vaccine could not be fast-tracked because the virus had a low mortality rate in the early days of the pandemic.

00:39:02.000 Okay, so Professor Sir, how many times does this guy have to ask before Matt Hancock will listen to him?

00:39:07.000 Professor Sir Chris Witty, Professor Sir, my beautiful darling, Chris Witty told Matt

00:39:14.000 Hancock and others the disease with a mortality rate in the range of 1% would need a very

00:39:19.000 safe vaccine and that the necessary clinical trials would be a rate limiting step.

00:39:24.000 Or would it?

00:39:25.000 Or should we just roar straight ahead with that stuff?

00:39:29.000 So there you go.

00:39:30.000 All the time they were saying follow the science, they were ignoring the scientists.

00:39:34.000 Unless those scientists agreed with the broader perspectives that allowed government more

00:39:39.000 ability to regulate and lockdown, big pharma more ability to make profit.

00:39:43.000 I don't know that that looks so much like a conspiracy theory at this point.

00:39:47.000 Let me know in the chat and the comments if you agree.

00:39:49.000 Do you think it's time to bring our guest on?

00:39:51.000 We're 40 minutes into the show.

00:39:52.000 It's gotta be, hasn't it?

00:39:53.000 Let's get Dr. J. Bhattacharya onto the call.

00:39:58.000 Joining me now is Dr. J. Bhattacharya.

00:40:00.000 I hope I did your name right, mate.

00:40:02.000 Professor of Medicine Economics and Health Research Policy at Stanford University, which, last time I checked, was a hive of conspiracy theorists mostly getting together to talk about, I don't know, the reptilians and stuff like that.

00:40:16.000 But the professor has been critical of lockdowns from the start and says that the COVID dam is beginning to break.

00:40:22.000 Lord, let it burst upon us right now.

00:40:24.000 Thanks for joining us, Professor.

00:40:26.000 It's great to have you here.

00:40:29.000 Oh, I've not got his audio here in the room with me.

00:40:32.000 Oh, thank you for having me.

00:40:34.000 Although I am a fringe epidemiologist, Russell, I don't know if you know, I was called that by the head of the National Institute of Health because of my ideas to, you know, get kids into school.

00:40:46.000 Weird.

00:40:46.000 Fringe idea.

00:40:48.000 Crackpot.

00:40:48.000 Conspiracy theorist.

00:40:50.000 Hey, have you been following the Matt Hancock revelations and if so, can you tell me, do you feel vindicated somewhat by the revelations and could you explain them to our audience, please?

00:41:01.000 I have been following them very, very closely.

00:41:03.000 I think they're an incredibly important story.

00:41:06.000 And, you know, the first thing about them is that, you know, we would never have known but for a journalist who decided that her obligations to the public were more important than anything else.

00:41:19.000 And, you know, it kind of reminds me of Julian Assange.

00:41:22.000 The revelations themselves, substantively, are so important.

00:41:27.000 So, for instance, one of the things that Matt Honcock said, In December 2020, was that when the variants first started coming up, was we need to use the variants to spread fear in the public.

00:41:43.000 In fact, that's a theme that runs all through the story.

00:41:47.000 Matt Hancock, of course, was the health minister of the UK.

00:41:50.000 He was advising Boris Johnson about what to do.

00:41:53.000 And the thing he emphasizes over and over again, let's use propaganda It terrifies me beyond even the details of this story that a part of the modus operandi of government is to terrify people, although it is obvious that centralized power does benefit from a terrified or at least anxious public.

00:42:23.000 What else do you think about the revelations?

00:42:25.000 The idea that Chris Whitty's observations were ignored?

00:42:27.000 Is that significant?

00:42:29.000 Yeah, so in the early days of the pandemic, it became clear, actually from some studies that I did, and others like Johnny and Edie's here at Stanford, that the mortality risk was, you know, 0.2%, 99.8% survival with, you know, of course, with older people at very high risk of dying, you know, 3, 4, 5% if they get sick, for children very, very low.

00:42:50.000 He made the reasonable observation that you have a low Mortality disease, you really should be doing studies on like high risk people.

00:42:59.000 You shouldn't be fast tracking it to force everyone to take a vaccine that, you know, in January 2020, we didn't even have.

00:43:08.000 So I think Witte was sensible.

00:43:10.000 The issue is like, why did he get sidelined?

00:43:12.000 And part of it is this fear mongering.

00:43:14.000 The idea that we're all equally at risk, even though the data show that, really, it's older people that were at highest risk from getting sick and dying from this thing.

00:43:22.000 In fact, that's the theme that runs through.

00:43:25.000 I listed a few things, Russell, if you could give me a couple seconds.

00:43:28.000 One is that, like, the public... So, if you look, the files reveal that Boris Johnson used public opinion instead of science to decide lockdown policy.

00:43:40.000 So, for instance, the second lockdown, he did because he thought public opinion was important.

00:43:45.000 What did he expect after the government spent all this time scaring the living daylights out of the public?

00:43:53.000 I mean, it's so irresponsible.

00:43:55.000 I mean, and it undermines both the government and public health authorities that went along with this.

00:44:04.000 Now, remember, I told you that's older people that are really at highest risk.

00:44:07.000 People in like, you know, care homes, for instance.

00:44:11.000 Well, Hancock was advised to test care home residents early in the pandemic because that's who's at highest risk, and he refused to do it.

00:44:20.000 They weren't following the science.

00:44:22.000 As a result, a lot of older people in the UK died that may have survived the pandemic.

00:44:30.000 Boris Johnson essentially admits that the data that led to the second lockdown are wrong.

00:44:34.000 You know, remember all those curves that they were projecting? 0.93

00:44:37.000 Say, oh yeah, if you don't lock down, millions of people will die.

00:44:40.000 That was proven false almost immediately.

00:44:46.000 Again, the theme is, let's not follow the science.

00:44:49.000 Let's have some pre-existing notion about how dangerous the disease is and adopt whatever policies we want, whether it's backed by science or not.

00:45:01.000 There's another revelation.

00:45:02.000 Nicola Sturgeon, I guess, is the Chief Minister of Scotland, right?

00:45:08.000 Nicola Sturgeon, you crackpot fringe academic over there at Stanford University. 0.99

00:45:15.000 Well, apparently, you all in England were required to mask because the folks in England didn't want to risk an argument with Nicola Sturgeon.

00:45:26.000 Not because of any scientific data, just simply to make Nicola Sturgeon happy.

00:45:31.000 Kids in the UK, this happened in the US too by the way, I'm not just simply criticizing the UK, this is a universal problem, kids in the UK were kept six feet apart from each other, not on the basis of any science at all, just because, I don't know, kids are biohazards or something? 0.58

00:45:48.000 I'm not sure what the reasoning was.

00:45:51.000 And then the key thing is that they used media to push this propaganda campaign, to push the fear.

00:45:59.000 And all of this comes out in the context of these files.

00:46:02.000 These files are like a Rosetta Stone for what went wrong during the pandemic.

00:46:08.000 It seems that Fauci is becoming more open to the potential lab leak theory.

00:46:14.000 It seems that the narrative is shifting.

00:46:17.000 It appears that overall, perhaps what happened is that centralized governmental interests and corporate pharmacological or pharmaceutical interests converged and where they arrived at was the most authoritarian and the most profitable solution.

00:46:34.000 That needn't mean that there was a conspiracy, just that there was a momentum heading in the direction of those types of outcomes.

00:46:43.000 If indeed we can regard science as a subset of corporate interest due to the type of experimentation that takes place and the kind of conclusions that are avoided, In this instance, I might point to natural immunity, vitamin D, and again, pushing the vaccines at a point where even Chris Whitty says that with that fatality rate and with highly vulnerable people ought to have been prioritised, it doesn't seem like it was a sensible solution.

00:47:13.000 What kind of changes Need to take place in the governance of the pharmaceutical industry to prevent something like this happening again, because I'm sure you're aware that there are a lot of people that feel that this situation will be used to establish a precedent not only for future pandemics, but for future policy.

00:47:29.000 Indeed, the WHO are lobbying, aren't they, for a pandemic response treaty.

00:47:34.000 That would enable them to set the terms of response for every nation on earth in the event of another pandemic.

00:47:40.000 What do you think needs to change about the regulation of the science industry or the pharmaceutical industry?

00:47:45.000 And what do you believe, Doctor, needs to change about the unelected globalist organisations like the WHO in order that people aren't needlessly subjected to this kind of thing again?

00:47:58.000 I mean, you raise a lot of good points, so let me just take a couple of them in order.

00:48:02.000 So one is the lab leak.

00:48:03.000 You know, I heard what you said about Fauci and his excuse for the lab leak.

00:48:09.000 You know, Fauci and the United States NIH sponsored projects to go into those bat caves to bring the viruses out of the bat caves and then bring them into laboratories.

00:48:23.000 So even if he's right, this was the result of a United States-sponsored project that Fauci himself signed off on.

00:48:31.000 The whole idea then, now I get to your second point about the pharmaceutical interest, the whole point of this gain-of-function kind of exercise was to identify viruses in the wild and then make vaccines that can They can protect against these, these potential pathogens.

00:48:52.000 It's very closely aligned with pharma interest.

00:48:54.000 Absolutely closely, because who makes those vaccines, who benefits from those vaccines?

00:48:59.000 Now, I have to say, I have mixed feelings.

00:49:01.000 On one hand, you kind of want to have investments in research.

00:49:06.000 And pharma can do that.

00:49:07.000 That's fine.

00:49:08.000 But it's the job of government to make sure that that is done ethically, and it doesn't become this sort of like, you know, create a billionaire a day kind of thing, as you pointed out.

00:49:21.000 It needed to be something where there's some adversarial relationship between the government and the pharmaceutical companies.

00:49:29.000 I don't think that they're all bad, the pharmaceutical companies, but the government's job is to make sure that the products that they're putting are actually safe, are actually effective.

00:49:38.000 And they did not do their job very effectively during the pandemic.

00:49:41.000 In fact, quite the opposite.

00:49:43.000 It looked to me like a lot of the decisions that the governments made were at the behest of pharmaceutical companies.

00:49:49.000 They were captured by the pharmaceutical companies rather than the other way around.

00:49:52.000 It is deeply, it's a deep problem.

00:49:55.000 And as far as the World Health Organization, they failed during this pandemic.

00:49:59.000 Russell, 100 million poor people around the world were thrown into dire poverty, less than $2 a day or less in income.

00:50:07.000 100 million people were thrown into food insecurity, starving, because of decisions made by the WHO.

00:50:15.000 They made decisions essentially that pushed lockdowns that were adopted around the world.

00:50:18.000 In Uganda, they closed schools for two years.

00:50:21.000 And as a result, You know, four and a half million Ugandan kids never came back to school.

00:50:29.000 A lot of them actually were sold into sexual slavery because their parents were so poor that they had no choice.

00:50:34.000 The WHO failed the poor people of the world, and they're going around now asking for more power in the context of another pandemic?

00:50:43.000 No, there first needs to be deep reforms.

00:50:45.000 And absolutely, there needs to be some sort of guarantee that they're going to respect human rights the next time there's a pandemic, because they sure as heck didn't this time.

00:50:54.000 I can see why you've been blacklisted by Twitter prior to Elon.

00:50:58.000 You're spitting facts all over the place.

00:51:00.000 Who knows what viruses could be entangled in the various spores of truth conveyed by you, Doctor.

00:51:07.000 Thank you so much for joining us for this show.

00:51:10.000 I hope you will join us again.

00:51:12.000 I hope that you'll keep up this truthful crusade that you appear to have embarked upon.

00:51:16.000 Has it been personally damaging, exhausting, upsetting, distressing?

00:51:21.000 It's been exhilarating, for sure.

00:51:23.000 I mean, it's been very stressful.

00:51:25.000 But on the other hand, I never would have been able to talk to you otherwise, so there are some upsides.

00:51:29.000 It's a small price to pay for a bit of a chat with a bloke in a hat.

00:51:33.000 Thank you, Doctor.

00:51:34.000 Thank you so much for joining us.

00:51:35.000 Thank you for your diligence.

00:51:36.000 Thank you for being a true servant of science and truth because Lord alone knows that is what the world needs.

00:51:42.000 I really appreciate you.

00:51:43.000 You can follow Dr Bhattacharya on Twitter for his regular updates on COVID, the pandemic and science more broadly.

00:51:51.000 I think we can all agree it's a perspective worth having and a reminder that there are valuable voices in the field of science that Or be heard.

00:52:00.000 What do you think, Gal?

00:52:01.000 That was terrifying, wasn't it?

00:52:02.000 What he said about the WHO.

00:52:03.000 I didn't like all those children having to go into the sex industry. 0.90

00:52:06.000 Well, no, that was... That's suboptimal!

00:52:09.000 Yeah, that's not exactly what you want, is it?

00:52:11.000 Why is that not?

00:52:11.000 Why have we not been told that on the mainstream news?

00:52:14.000 I know.

00:52:14.000 When you think about, like, how them Congress folk are chatting to Matt Taubi and Michael Schellenberg, a legit journalist.

00:52:19.000 When you think about how Dr Bhattacharya there, a legit scientist, is being blacklisted and kicked off of Twitter.

00:52:26.000 Think about the stuff that gets focused on.

00:52:27.000 He's starting to sort of see a bloody trend.

00:52:30.000 And their kind of point in that, that we were watching the video earlier, their point is that Ataibi and Schellenberger were cherry picking the information to kind of suit their narrative.

00:52:39.000 And they were also kind of suggesting that Elon Musk did it for them.

00:52:42.000 But I mean, cherry picking is literally like picking out... I mean... Cherries!

00:52:46.000 Delicious cherries!

00:52:47.000 The Telegraph have done... I love cherries!

00:52:49.000 They've gone through, I think it was 40,000 messages of Matt Hancock.

00:52:54.000 To reveal the kind of things that have just been revealed about the way in which, first of all, the fact that everyone seemed to communicate via WhatsApp in some kind of chatty forum between like government ministers and health ministers deciding on what should be done during lockdown.

00:53:09.000 Just chilling, just chilling with my deadly diseases.

00:53:12.000 Matt Hancock was using emojis at certain points.

00:53:14.000 You shouldn't be using emojis, Matt.

00:53:16.000 It sounds ridiculous, but it just shows the kind of cavalier attitude of people who are just making decisions for the rest of the country, not based on science.

00:53:24.000 And when they say about cherry picking, it's like, well, that's exactly what the journalists at The Telegraph have done.

00:53:29.000 That's what journalism is.

00:53:31.000 That's how you find facts out of 40,000 texts.

00:53:33.000 You need to discern the truth from the fiction.

00:53:36.000 And of course, there is a process of narrativisation.

00:53:39.000 I wouldn't be so disingenuous to claim that I am some conduit for the pure Truth of the Lord, that would be madness.

00:53:45.000 No, I don't think you should do that.

00:53:46.000 Don't make that claim.

00:53:47.000 A couple more years?

00:53:48.000 It wouldn't be true.

00:53:49.000 Come on, Gal! 0.99

00:53:51.000 Hey, you know I do stand-up comedy, did you know that?

00:53:53.000 Yes, I was aware of that.

00:53:54.000 I'm one of the stand-up comics that there is.

00:53:56.000 Yes.

00:53:57.000 My new stand-up special, Brandemic, is out today.

00:54:00.000 If you're already a member of our locals community, you already get free access, as well as the behind-the-scenes shows that me and Gal do, as well as ad-free content over on Rumble.

00:54:10.000 If you think you might be interested in a bit of my stand-up, Made some pretty interesting observations about that whip market, as a matter of fact.

00:54:17.000 Have a look at me in my stand-up special, Brandemic, which you get for free if you join up for a yearly subscription, but you can also buy it as a one-off commodity should you choose.

00:54:26.000 Have a look!

00:54:27.000 Yeah.

00:54:27.000 You know where this coronavirus come from, didn't ya?

00:54:31.000 Down the fucking wet market. 0.99

00:54:32.000 Now that's what's caused it. 1.00

00:54:33.000 No, they're down the wet market.

00:54:34.000 They're different than us over there. 1.00

00:54:36.000 They've got fucking wet markets. 0.99

00:54:38.000 What do you eat? 1.00

00:54:39.000 Domino's, Burger King, McDonald's, Fish and Chips, stuff like that? 1.00

00:54:42.000 Not these fuckers. 1.00

00:54:43.000 They're down the wet market. 1.00

00:54:45.000 Eating bats all covered in cum. 1.00

00:54:47.000 Guzzling it down. 1.00

00:54:48.000 Crunching up little bat heads with all cum coming down their neck, guzzling it, smoking a fag while squatting, eating a bat all covered. 1.00

00:54:54.000 It's going to cause a fucking pandemic, isn't it? 1.00

00:54:56.000 If you're eating a fucking bat, all smothered in cum, bat wing going in your mouth like that, down there, guzzling it down the wet market, all slop and gunk all over the floor, fucking little bat cum dribbling down you. 1.00

00:55:06.000 It's going to cause a fucking coronavirus pandemic. 1.00

00:55:09.000 That's where it's fucking come from, them dirty parts down the fucking wet market. 1.00

00:55:12.000 Yeah, but... What? 1.00

00:55:14.000 But...

00:55:15.000 What?! !

00:55:16.000 Well it's just over here the Wuhan Institute of Virology where they're doing gain-of-function research on bat coronaviruses!

00:55:28.000 Someone give that guy his own show on Rumble streaming daily. 0.82

00:55:33.000 Someone create a membership community where there's a show called Stay Connected where me and Gareth talk about how we make the show as well as fielding your questions.

00:55:40.000 Someone put on a weekly meditation where we directly address what it is you're feeling.

00:55:44.000 Is it heartbreak?

00:55:45.000 Is it loneliness?

00:55:45.000 Is it despair?

00:55:46.000 Is it Not knowing how to combine your spirituality with this oppressive, depressing world that doesn't allow your spirit to flourish and thrive.

00:55:54.000 Someone create a live podcast recording that you can attend and ask direct questions to whoever we have on Eckhart Tolle, Jordan Peterson, Vandana Shiva.

00:56:01.000 Those things already exist.

00:56:03.000 Join us.

00:56:04.000 We created it.

00:56:04.000 It's been done.

00:56:05.000 Get on it.

00:56:06.000 There's a little button somewhere on the page.

00:56:08.000 You can press that and then you can just join up and get all that stuff, including that stand-up show.

00:56:12.000 I hope you enjoy it.

00:56:14.000 Some of you will like it.

00:56:15.000 Look at this.

00:56:15.000 Becca D, she says it's bloody brilliant.

00:56:18.000 This person, Zash X, much love to me.

00:56:21.000 This person, Russell, stop promoting your content while we're already consuming your content.

00:56:26.000 I made that one up because I felt that it needed to be addressed.

00:56:28.000 Nice.

00:56:29.000 Yeah, I'm self aware.

00:56:29.000 I'm self aware that much I will offer you.

00:56:32.000 56 minutes.

00:56:33.000 Now we've got a few more minutes.

00:56:33.000 Let's do some of that other stuff that we've got.

00:56:36.000 Like all of those things.

00:56:37.000 Other stuff.

00:56:38.000 Yeah, we've got some other stuff.

00:56:39.000 Like for example, to help people that can't kiss each other.

00:56:43.000 Oh, yeah.

00:56:43.000 If they are separated by geography, there's this thing.

00:56:49.000 Now you might think that's somehow disgusting, but you haven't seen it move yet.

00:56:54.000 So let's have a look at it move.

00:56:57.000 Nobody is kissing the in-person kiss goodbye, but chances are nobody has ever kissed you this way through a lip-shaped device that plugs into your phone.

00:57:08.000 The idea is to send someone a kiss long distance.

00:57:12.000 Sensors transmit pressure, movement, and temperature data that's received by another pair of lips.

00:57:19.000 So your kiss is replicated on their lips!

00:57:22.000 Similar tech for remote kissing first surfaced less than a decade ago with a kiss- Sting.

00:57:28.000 Appalling.

00:57:29.000 Awful.

00:57:30.000 Not pleasant.

00:57:32.000 It reminds me of- Where can we get them?

00:57:33.000 Where do you buy those items?

00:57:35.000 No, it's reprehensible.

00:57:37.000 Where's the, uh, this thing?

00:57:40.000 Yeah.

00:57:40.000 Let's have a look at this, because if you were watching the show prior to our trip to America, you would have seen this terrifying orifice.

00:57:45.000 Let's have a look.

00:57:46.000 [Metal screeching]

00:57:47.000 [Metal screeching]

00:57:48.000 [Metal screeching]

00:57:49.000 [Metal screeching]

00:57:50.000 [Metal screeching]

00:57:51.000 [Metal screeching]

00:57:52.000 [Metal screeching]

00:57:53.000 [Metal screeching]

00:57:54.000 I think that, that, that's reality now.

00:57:58.000 Yeah.

00:57:58.000 When I see that, I think it's sort of like, for me, it's like a unifying symbol of all of the problems in the world.

00:58:05.000 Rampant technology, dehumanisation, over-sexualisation, nihilism, a sort of uncanny loss of our connection to the sublime, all contained in that thing.

00:58:17.000 They'll put that on the phone at some point.

00:58:19.000 I've already got the top bit of it.

00:58:21.000 Go back and watch the last time we did this because the tune was better.

00:58:25.000 The last time we did it, it had an amazing noise.

00:58:27.000 We should do it for next time because I'll be doing this all the time.

00:58:30.000 We'll find that again for next time.

00:58:32.000 And let's have a look at Donald Trump telling us how he's going to save the world.

00:58:36.000 What do you do to stop the war in Ukraine?

00:58:39.000 So I would literally start calling, not from the day I took over, but from the night I won.

00:58:48.000 And I'd call two people.

00:58:50.000 You know who the two people are?

00:58:51.000 Putin, right?

00:58:53.000 You know who Putin is?

00:58:54.000 And Zelensky.

00:58:56.000 And I'd say, we're gonna meet.

00:58:58.000 We're gonna meet.

00:58:59.000 And I guarantee I could work that out.

00:59:03.000 I guarantee.

00:59:04.000 I know exactly what I'd say, by the way.

00:59:05.000 I know exactly.

00:59:06.000 I'd tell one guy this, and I'd tell one guy that, and I'd say, you better make a deal.

00:59:11.000 We would have a deal made in 24 hours.

00:59:14.000 Maybe Trump's narcissism is our route to global peace because it is a powerful force.

00:59:20.000 That level of self-belief is sort of astonishing, isn't it?

00:59:24.000 I tell one guy this, one guy that.

00:59:26.000 Yeah, I've got less faith, if I'm totally honest.

00:59:29.000 I wonder what would happen.

00:59:30.000 It's almost worth making him president again to see how he handles it.

00:59:34.000 It's worth a try, isn't it?

00:59:35.000 We're not talking about world peace, after all.

00:59:39.000 I mean, given everything we've said about systemic corruption and the inherent inability of the system to deliver to ordinary people, we cannot actively endorse Trump for president.

00:59:49.000 Sure, but why, what about... Send him there now!

00:59:52.000 You know when you do like a guest week or something, Maybe in one of Biden's holidays or when he's caught between not being able to say something.

01:00:02.000 Just send Trump in for a week.

01:00:03.000 There must be a role for Donald Trump in this world and I think his role is that.

01:00:07.000 I'd like to see what happens.

01:00:09.000 If Donald Trump is truly a man of faith then he will, I believe, agree to negotiate world peace just for the sake of it.

01:00:17.000 And he needs literally a day.

01:00:19.000 He said he only needs a day.

01:00:20.000 Tomorrow it could all be solved.

01:00:21.000 Incredible.

01:00:21.000 Oh, wouldn't that be lovely to know more war, freedom, peace for everyone.

01:00:25.000 Fantastic stuff.

01:00:26.000 All right.

01:00:26.000 Well, listen, this is our first show back.

01:00:28.000 We've been on a giddy wild ride, haven't we together?

01:00:30.000 We certainly have, yeah.

01:00:31.000 I'm still jet-lagged.

01:00:32.000 I don't know about you.

01:00:32.000 We're jet-lagged out of our mind.

01:00:33.000 We don't know what time it is.

01:00:34.000 We don't know where we are.

01:00:35.000 I hope this was a good show because we wouldn't know, would we?

01:00:38.000 Not a clue.

01:00:39.000 We're delirious.

01:00:39.000 I've got my nude feet on some sort of grounding electromat, which I think... Is that what you call it?

01:00:45.000 It's a grounding electromat.

01:00:48.000 It's a vibrating orifice made of nothing but purest silicone that's responding to the lips of a Japanese boy far away in another land, kissing me to groundedness. 0.95

01:01:01.000 Remember, join us on our community.

01:01:02.000 You can get my stand up special there right now.

01:01:05.000 I'd love to know what you think of it.

01:01:06.000 Let me know.

01:01:07.000 Here on locals or elsewhere on social media.

01:01:09.000 I'd really love to get your feedback on that.

01:01:11.000 Join us tomorrow, not for more of the same, but for more of the different.

Stay Free - Russel Brand - March 14, 2023

Dr. Jay Bhattacharya (The Covid Dam Is Breaking!)

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