Dr. Joseph Latipo is the former Surgeon general of the state of Florida and author of Transcend Fear, a new book about public health in America. In this episode of Stay Free With Russell Brand, Dr. Ladepeau talks about his time as a public health official, his views on public health restrictions, home care, and vaccines, and why he thinks Dr. Anthony Fauci might be the new epitome for public health leadership in America, and the lessons he could teach us about what a good public official looks like versus a bad one. Stay Free with Russell Brand is a production of Awakened Wonder, a podcast that explores the intersection of science, technology, and politics. Produced in Los Angeles, CA and New York City, NY. Visit awakenedwonder.ca/podcast for tickets to our upcoming live show on "Keep Calm and Carry On" on October 31st at 7 PM Eastern on October 30th, 2019. Tickets go on sale Friday, November 1st at 9/8th at 8 PM Eastern. To find a list of our sponsors and show-related promo codes, go to awakendewonder.org/OurAdvertisers. If you like what you hear, HIT SUBSCRIBE and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts! or wherever else you re listening to podcasts are available. You can also become a supporter of Awakening Wonder by becoming a patron of AWakenedWonder by clicking the link below. Subscribe to our new podcast on iTunes and leaving us a rating and review on your favorite podcasting platform, Rate/streaming platform Subscribe, review, and subscribe to our podcast! You'll get 10% off your favorite streaming service! Subscribe, rate and review starting next week, and get 20% off a new episode on Audible, too! We'll be giving you a chance to win a new ad-free version of the show next week on the newest episode on the App Store and Vimeo, too? Subscribe & review the show! Thank you for listening to Awakening Wonder? Subscribe and Share the show? You get 7 days of this show for a chance at $1, $5, $10, $15, $20, and $50, and so you can win a FREE PRACTICALLY get a copy of the latest issue of the new issue of AWAKEDUCATION WEEKEND, and more!
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00:01:57.000Now Dr. Joseph Latipo, author of Transcend Fear, was the and is the Surgeon General of Florida.
00:02:02.000His book Transcend Fear describes his views on public health restrictions, Early home treatment and COVID-19 vaccines along with how Florida officials made public health decisions that set Florida apart from other states.
00:02:17.000We spoke about a variety of subjects and you are gonna love hearing about them.
00:02:21.000You would have seen it a week earlier if you were in Awakened Wonder on Locals.
00:02:25.000If you're watching us on YouTube, You're gonna be here with us for about 15 minutes and you gotta suck up on them words as if it were the sweet titty milk of a wolf and you were Romulus or maybe Remus.
00:02:36.000As you know, only one twin can survive.
00:02:39.000Now, get ready for the conversation with Dr. Latipo who shows you what a public official should look like.
00:02:45.000Honest, authentic, open-minded, exciting and illuminating.
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00:03:06.000It's lovely to meet you directly, if not in person, because during the pandemic period I remember feeling, as I'm sure many people did, that yours was a sane and trustworthy voice during a period where people were losing a great deal of faith in public officials.
00:03:22.000We spend a lot of time on this channel talking about Dr. Anthony Fauci as the epitome of this phenomenon, someone that was heralded and held up As the face of the reliable bureaucracies of America, but over time has come to be seen as a figure of, and again I'll be careful here because we're still for the first 15 minutes streaming on multiple platforms including YouTube where we face considerable censorship, has been come to be seen as someone whose involvement historically in complex research, the way that he's received royalties,
00:03:56.000A potential direct involvement in the Wuhan Institute of Virology and their projects have all meant that the trust in him as an individual and public health more broadly has waned significantly.
00:04:10.000You've written a new book, Transcend Fear, a blueprint for mindful leadership in public health.
00:04:15.000Would it be fair to say that you might be a new epitome for public health in America and Dr.
00:04:23.000Anthony Fauci has taught us many lessons. If that analysis is true, could you tell us
00:04:28.000what the lessons we could learn from the figure of Anthony Fauci?
00:04:35.000I mean, maybe lesson number one is to really examine the deliverer of your information.
00:04:42.000You know, I think a lot of people early on just completely were snowed by Dr. Fauci, but there were a few voices that could see him for who he is.
00:04:52.000And who he is, is a dishonest, self-serving political animal who happens to have scientific training.
00:05:01.000And we saw him and he misled people in so many ways.
00:05:05.000I mean, the whole mask thing was just epic.
00:05:08.000You know, he was sitting in that 60 Minutes interview saying, no one really needs to wear one, which actually was consistent with the science because the science hasn't been supportive.
00:05:17.000And then he flipped the script and we were up to maybe two or three masks, I think, by the time the pandemic was actually starting to cool down.
00:05:25.000So, you know, You've got to look at the sources of information and really feel whether they resonate with you in terms of your connection with what feels true.
00:05:38.000I don't have anything against him, actually, but you can look at him.
00:05:43.000He's obviously a very dishonest, untrustworthy person.
00:05:49.000What you said there about trusting your own instincts and intuition when it comes to appraising, personally appraising public information, that in itself has become quite controversial in your country.
00:06:03.000It seems that we are more and more inclined towards, certainly in terms of legislation, legitimising the state as a kind of Uber parent to us all.
00:06:15.000Determining which information we should even have access to.
00:06:19.000There seems to be some fear and loathing of ordinary Americans.
00:06:23.000Beyond the fear and loathing I might offer, a kind of contempt.
00:06:26.000A sense that we, and I mean the people of the world here because I'm plainly not American, are not capable of ourselves looking at some data on, for example, Vitamin D or other proposed measures and of course we're going to get into discussing the vaccine later and making a choice for our family.
00:06:46.000There was an appetite for authoritarianism.
00:06:50.000Sometimes mandate was executed, blessedly not as much as I get the sense the state would have liked to have mandated it.
00:06:57.000So this idea That we are actually, as individuals, as communities and as families, able to, for ourselves, as sovereign, determine what our medical and indeed cultural choices are to be, seems to be something that's under threat.
00:07:12.000Does that seem like a fair assessment to you, Doctor?
00:07:17.000Now, before Dr. Ladipo answers that question, I've got to let you know on YouTube, as you can see, the countdown's already begun.
00:07:51.000I know that's something, a theme that you've talked about, and I'm really appreciative of you talking about it because I think there are a lot of people out there who they can sense that there's something wrong, but they're not sure You know, what exactly is wrong?
00:08:04.000And when you hear a voice like yours that is laying it out very clearly, because no doubt, absolutely, bet your life, that's what we're up against, right?
00:08:13.000It's literally, it's the individual, it's the individual sovereignty, it's the individual and the power of the individual with his or her relationship with God and the universe and everything that is out there that makes us special and perfect.
00:08:27.000Versus these people and these forces that want to uphold institutions above the individual.
00:08:36.000I mean, the individual means really almost nothing to them.
00:08:41.000The institution and their conception of what the world should be and ought to be is all that matters to them.
00:08:48.000So, that is absolutely, positively what we're up against.
00:08:53.000You are the Surgeon General of Florida.
00:08:57.000You were the Surgeon General of Florida during the pandemic.
00:09:00.000It transpires that Florida is the state that many others aspire to.
00:09:05.000It seems subsequent to the pandemic that Florida's stance, minimal regulation, minimum hysteria and panic, maximum individual freedom, With regard, let's just take this single issue of Covid, given that you're the Surgeon General and that's the area of cultural, social and political policy that you're most qualified to comment on.
00:09:29.000Seems that that was the right way to go.
00:09:31.000And oddly, the states in your country that pride themselves on liberalism, which of course is a synonym for freedom, were the most authoritarian.
00:09:48.000What's happening there when the states that are regarded as conservative, or at least states like Florida that seem to flip between, Are definitely more interested in individual freedom and the states that use liberalism as the sort of title for their dogma are more authoritarian.
00:10:08.000Is something happening around language?
00:10:10.000Is something important happening around how we're being taught to view authority?
00:10:19.000there is something. And when I feel into it, it feels like the, almost like a hypnotic effect.
00:10:28.000So, not that many years ago, I don't know, maybe 15 years ago or so, you have this movement in
00:10:35.000the United States, this Occupy Wall Street movement. And And at that time, and actually for many years before that, you had people who were more liberal, who just naturally were less trustful of government, less trustful of companies, less trustful of corporations, and with very good reason.
00:10:54.000You know, and over time, these same people in that camp, they've completely flipped.
00:11:02.000Now they are, they, you know, listen to the authorities, listen to the health officials, you know, the Facebook and these Corporations are on our side, and they should be having more power to restrict speech and things like that.
00:11:16.000And now you've got really people who are now considered conservative.
00:11:22.000They're the people who are less trustful of government.
00:11:24.000They're the people who are less trustful of corporations, and they're the people who want more speech.
00:12:05.000assuming there are channels for funding that connect to the political aspect of your medical
00:12:12.000work that involve having nuanced, shall we say, and possibly even compromised relationship with
00:12:18.000pharmaceutical entities. It's not saying I know for a fact, I'm just guessing. But like in the
00:12:22.000five years leading up to the pandemic, we had this period where the pharmaceutical companies were
00:12:28.000beyond negligent, perhaps even criminal. I know many of these things were settled out of court
00:12:33.000when it came to the issue, policy and messaging around opioids. And it does seem odd that after
00:12:40.000that period, people were willing to embrace companies like Pfizer as saviors.
00:12:48.000And now, as you said just then, Doctor, to look at Facebook and their parent company Meta as like friendly entities seems surprising to me.
00:12:59.000It's just recently that Meta, without any Fanfare at all.
00:13:04.000Changed their settings so that what was deemed to be political content could be monitored, controlled, censored is another word for what it seems they're facilitating without anyone knowing it.
00:13:45.000Or is it surprising to you that medicine and the typical boundaries of medicine, i.e.
00:13:51.000make people better using whatever methods, techniques, expertise, experience, pharmacology is necessary or pertinent, has become about identifying with causes that are plainly ideological?
00:14:08.000You know, Russell, all these forces have always been at play.
00:14:11.000And frankly, I was one of their little puppets as a medical student and as a trainee.
00:14:17.000It was really my wife's help and the pandemic and some work that I do that I describe in my books and spiritual work that helped me shake a lot of the shackles.
00:14:28.000that I had locked myself in unknowingly over the years.
00:14:32.000Well, I would say what's really happened, Russell, is that stuff that was in the background has now moved to the forefront.
00:14:39.000So, all of these corrupt forces, they were always at play.
00:14:42.000You know, I mean, certainly you mentioned some of these lawsuits, for example, and some of them criminal, that pharmaceutical companies have settled and have lost cases.
00:14:53.000You know, you can talk about Vioxx, you can talk about I think Durant was another one.
00:14:58.000Many medications where consumers have not received the accurate information that was already available to help them and their doctors make good decisions because companies were being dishonest.
00:15:13.000I mean, this has been going on for, you You know, for a long time.
00:15:19.000But what's special, although horrific in terms of how we had to get here, but what's special about this time that we're in now is that all this stuff that was in the background, it's like coming out in the foreground.
00:15:32.000People are getting to see how ugly it is.
00:15:35.000You know, you see all this cover that our organizations like the FDA in this country and the CDC are doing for a terrible vaccine.
00:15:44.000I mean, something that shouldn't even be on the market.
00:15:47.000You see all the mandates that have happened with firing nurses.
00:15:56.000People don't care if someone can't feed their family anymore because they choose to make a different decision about a new experimental product and putting that in their bodies.
00:16:06.000So, this stuff that's been in the background is just coming out into the foreground and people can finally see it and it's important and it's special because many people are waking up.
00:16:18.000Yes, it has been a revelatory period indeed.
00:16:21.000We have a question here from a member of our Awakened Wonder community on Locals which anyone can join and support us and at the moment we are doing an offer where you get one month free trial so if you don't like it you can leave.
00:16:33.000That's how confident we are that you'll like it.
00:16:36.000NJ Britt asks, is there any hope of reversing the effects of the mRNA vaccine or is the only option to have early screening for myocarditis?
00:16:45.000Now we're still on YouTube so run the counter Now, before we answer that, because I've got a question to ask you as well, Doctor.
00:16:52.000Do COVID vaccines really change your body's DNA or is this just a conspiracy theory?
00:16:57.000As you will appreciate, these are not questions that can be answered on a platform that uses the WHO's guidelines to monitor its community.
00:17:08.000Click the link in the description if you're watching us on YouTube to hear how the great Doctor and writer of Transcend Fear, a blueprint for mindful leadership in public health, Answers that question!
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00:17:23.000So the two questions were, Doc, is there any hope?
00:17:26.000Britt from our community asked for reversing the effects of the mRNA vaccine and do they really change your DNA or is it just a conspiracy theory?
00:17:39.000Yeah, so for the first question, can you think of a time in history where so many people have been regretful of putting something in their body?
00:18:00.000You hear there's a doctor here, for example, Dr. Peter McCullough, and he has some ideas about what people can do to counter some of the effects of the vaccine.
00:18:14.000I mean, there are other conversations that I've had with people about spiritual approaches to undo some of the energetic effects of the vaccine since it was conceived in a frequency that you would not want to put in your body.
00:18:32.000So, that's what I would say about that.
00:18:34.000And then, in terms of this DNA issue, So, you know, we've raised this concern that there is contaminating DNA, which normally is not a big deal necessarily.
00:18:47.000But the problem is that with the mRNA COVID-19 vaccines, they have this thing called lipid nanoparticles that transport mRNA and almost certainly DNA into people's cells, which is just a completely new risk that has not been accounted for with these vaccines, but it's something that the FDA specifically has discussed in terms of the risk that DNA can pose to human DNA in our cells.
00:19:26.000I'll tell you that intuitively, I actually do think that it happens to some degree.
00:19:30.000I think that ultimately, that's what we're going to find just because honestly, these vaccines are just products from hell.
00:19:39.000So, I actually do suspect that that's what we're going to probably find.
00:19:44.000And it's just unfortunate, in my opinion, that so many people who were trying to do the right thing or trying to help their neighbor have had their good intentions completely taken advantage of.
00:19:57.000That's just another horrific product of the last few years.
00:20:00.000Yes, it is a pity that our general good will to one another, our willingness to undertake medical measures in order to help more vulnerable people in society, a set of ideals that are not elsewhere practiced by the state, I note, when it comes perhaps to the care of veterans or to the care of street sleepers or economic
00:20:20.000inequality more broadly or rampant corporatism and globalism that is marauding across the
00:20:27.000world. It's interesting to see that these type of altruism, philanthropy, fairness and
00:20:32.000justice do not generally seem to be applied but they came suddenly applicable with regard
00:20:37.000to this singular and as you've suggested revealing issue. I also want to ask you, Doctor,
00:20:42.000about at the beginning there you said that there are potentially spiritual and energetic
00:20:48.000types of healing that you might endorse or consider when it comes to people that have
00:20:54.000concerns about vaccine injury or even perhaps subtler effects and I mean difficult to diagnose and corroborate
00:21:05.000I have a friend that I work with Dr Jerome Poubelle who is a very brilliant chiropractor and healer And he spoke for a long time at the very early phases of the pandemic of potential threats and risks of the therapies that we're currently discussing, or the injections, I don't know what to call them anymore.
00:21:24.000And I feel that I don't hear many medical professionals talk in terms of Energetic healing or frequencies.
00:21:35.000But many of us know that there's more to healing than that which can be directly physically observed.
00:21:42.000We are after all in the human body dealing with an entity that has an inbuilt tendency, inclination and program to heal itself under many conditions, sometimes spontaneously and surprisingly.
00:21:55.000In spite of your position as a sanctioned political physician, You still remain open to the idea that there is much about healing that we don't understand.
00:22:06.000Can you help me to understand what you mean by that a little more, please?
00:22:39.000And I personally have had my own journey that relates to a lot of trauma that I had as a child.
00:22:49.000I actually was sexually molested by a babysitter and I thought it didn't affect me, but in fact, it profoundly affected me and I didn't find out how much it affected me.
00:22:58.000I didn't really become conscious to it until I fell in love with my wife, you know, I don't know, 18 years ago or so.
00:23:05.000And that process of falling in love with her really brought my problems, my problems in terms of the effects that that trauma and other stressors it had on my soul and my being, you know, that soul that lives in all of us and is the thing that connects us to God and makes each and every one of us special in our own special way.
00:23:28.000You know, I had a lot, you know, really profound problems.
00:23:33.000And the journey that my wife and I took, and my wife fortunately is gifted with just natural healing talent and gifts from God, directed me eventually to work with a guy named Christopher Mayher.
00:23:49.000He lives out in Southern California, and he's had his own journey.
00:23:54.000And I worked with him, and he has a lot of training and insights in things like Chinese medicine theory and meridians and other healing modalities.
00:24:21.000And I'll tell you that at the end of our five days working together, I would, without a drop of hesitation, have traded every money, every dollar I had, everything I owned.
00:24:34.000I would have traded the clothes on my back, everything, to have the experience that I ended up having with him.
00:24:43.000It was a completely new lease on life or experience of life.
00:24:48.000And we did things during that week that I did not believe were even a thing or possible, but absolutely.
00:24:57.000And it relates to frequencies, it relates to meridians, it relates to energy, it relates even to ancestral affects ancestral trauma and it relates to our DNA and how
00:25:09.000our DNA stores and our tissues store this information, the information of
00:25:15.000stress, the information of ancestral trauma, the information of our own trauma and how
00:25:21.000that affects absolutely how we show up in the world.
00:25:25.000So, yes, there's way more to healing than the wonderful things that we've learned in Western medicine.
00:25:33.000Thank goodness for what we can do for people, but there's so much more to healing.
00:25:38.000It's extraordinary to hear someone in your exalted position speak with such humility and open-mindedness about the potential and power of systems of healing that are less easy to concretize I'm very interested to learn more about your experience with this Navy SEAL therapist.
00:26:08.000And that's in your book, Transcend Fear.
00:26:12.000I know that the foreword is by Bobby Kennedy and afterward by the great Gavin DeBecca, two men that I count among my friends who are great mentors and very wise people.
00:26:25.000So I suppose on the basis of their inclusion in your book, I wouldn't be surprised that as well as having a good deal of reverence for science and science used correctly, i.e.
00:26:38.000To explore knowledge, explore the known, recognize the unknown, the necessity for ongoing debate and inclusivity of oppositional views when achieving consensus, even though I suppose those things are obvious, but also that you are open to systems and ideas of healing that go beyond what is prescribed and what is afforded to us in the public conversation.
00:27:07.000Doctor, one of the areas that's been subject to a good deal of scrutiny, debate and it seems censure is the topic of excess deaths.
00:27:14.000Here in our country, in the UK, the Office for Statistics, as recently as six months ago, changed the way that they calculate excess deaths.
00:27:24.000And the result of the change in this calculation was to bring excess deaths in the UK during the pandemic period, or at least I think late in 2022, down from an excess number of 30,000 down to 10,000.
00:27:39.000So whatever it is they did to the way they calculate, they said that you know it needed updating, the result was it appeared like there were less excess deaths.
00:27:48.000That's not the first time I've heard that the subject of excess deaths is being controlled, censored, that people are trying to
00:27:56.000mitigate what we understand and know about this topic. And one of the most compelling pieces of
00:28:02.000evidence that I heard came to me via Dr Pierre Corrie, with whom I'm sure you're familiar, who
00:28:07.000pointed out that it was insurance companies re-evaluating the way they established their
00:28:13.000premiums that revealed people were dying younger than would be anticipated and they just had to
00:28:23.000I wonder what you feel in particular about excess deaths both in your country and across the world and whether or not we will ever have A concrete indicator or evidence, I suppose, that there's a connection between the medications of the last few years and this strange new data.
00:28:48.000It is very hard to prove with the scientific methods, the statistical methods that we have currently that the mRNA COVID-19 vaccines have contributed or to quantify that.
00:29:07.000And, you know, and part of the reason it's hard to prove is also reflects the tragedy of how the vaccines were tested.
00:29:18.000You know, with a randomized clinical trial, which we had early on in the pandemic, and they were, you know, they were reasonably well designed, at least for COVID, not so much for what they were ultimately marketed for, which is hospitalization and death from COVID.
00:29:31.000They were not designed to evaluate that.
00:29:33.000They were really just designed to evaluate symptomatic COVID.
00:29:37.000We had an opportunity to really compare the groups and people should be very clear that during the randomized part of the trial where you can look at these things without bias and compare things like overall survival between people who received the placebo and people who received the mRNA COVID-19 vaccines, There was no overall benefit in terms of overall life.
00:30:01.000And in fact, in the vaccine group in the Pfizer trial, believe it or not, more people died.
00:30:08.000More people died in the vaccine arm overall than in the placebo arm.
00:30:16.000And, you know, it's just a shame that the trials were so short and that they weren't even larger in terms of the number of people that were enrolled.
00:30:25.000My sense from evaluating everything that we've seen, all the evidence during the trial, I mean, the fact that these things very clearly eventually cause you these mRNA boosters, eventually cause you to have an increased risk of contracting COVID.
00:30:41.000I mean, it's so obvious and CDC and FDA pretend like these data aren't out there, but it's very clearly the case.
00:30:48.000It's multiple studies from multiple countries find the same thing with the boosters.
00:30:53.000My sense is that, in fact, I would make a very confident bet that they have totally contributed to what is factual, as you said, from health insurance actuarial reports with life insurance, that they've contributed to excess debts.
00:31:18.000Certainly, the lockdowns Also contributed.
00:31:20.000There's just no doubt that it's just a terribly inhumane policy, and many people have died as a result.
00:31:27.000But my sense is that these mRNA COVID-19 vaccines have also contributed to the excess deaths, and it's so hard to prove.
00:31:34.000But what we should be doing, and fortunately, we have a governor, I've got, you know, and a friend, Governor Ron DeSantis, who's really, I mean, he's, his courage meter is like off the charts.
00:31:45.000He's, he's He's willing to do whatever it takes.
00:31:55.000Here in Florida, we're working on doing some autopsy stuff.
00:31:58.000What you need, because you don't have the clinical trials anymore, is you need studies where you learn more about the pathological effects of these vaccines.
00:32:08.000Studies that show abnormalities that are consistent with vaccine mRNA-associated death.
00:32:14.000And I think if you have enough of that, then it becomes harder to deny that overall, these are harmful products.
00:32:21.000I mean, yeah, early on, did they protect older people, very vulnerable people from dying from COVID-19?
00:32:28.000Yeah, I think the evidence was pretty good for that.
00:32:31.000But overall, in the general population, and now on booster number 12, or whatever number we're at, are they harming people?
00:32:42.000My sense is yes and again you just you need the autopsy studies you need that type of pathological evidence just to show that these are these are very harmful products.
00:32:51.000From the beginning there was a sense that this evidence is if perhaps the word manipulated is a contentious term.
00:33:03.000There's, you know, you don't count the first two weeks or so after the vaccine.
00:33:07.000So, there are definitely ways that the clinical trials are stacked against the, you know, sort of weighted to make the vaccines look better.
00:33:17.000But, I mean, I don't want to, you know, Dr. Christine Stableben is someone who I admire, a vaccine researcher closer to you than me.
00:33:26.000And one of the things she's shown and others have shown with their research is that it is completely, totally possible to have a vaccine that protects against a certain disease, but still causes a higher risk of overall death because the immune system is magnificent.
00:33:46.000And unfortunately, it's almost impossible to tinker with one thing.
00:33:50.000So, in this case, protection against COVID-19 and not affect Myriad other parts of the system that affect our whole bodies.
00:34:00.000So, even if they help with severe illness from COVID-19, just like having prior infection does, that's fine.
00:34:20.000At the very beginning, when you were trying to evaluate what was happening, and perhaps you can fold into your response the answer to the question from a member of our community, this is live on Locals, that's where we do many of our Premier guest, so that there's an opportunity for our community to ask questions.
00:34:44.000KM Hoag said, please ask Dr. Ladipo what it's like to work with Dr. DeSantis.
00:34:52.000And I'd like to add to that, how did both of you strategize and adjust from the beginning part of the pandemic, where I feel like, I'll just speak personally, most people initially were like, this is Pretty crazy.
00:35:05.000We're going to have to take unusual measures individually and collectively in order to respond to recognizing that the available information was changing and yet the opportunity for authority regulation and profit was not subsiding in alignment with a burgeoning sense that
00:35:25.000this is something where perhaps vulnerable communities should be protected, where
00:35:29.000individual freedom should be respected above mandate when it came to the medications, that there
00:35:35.000are certain groups and communities that should totally be free to determine for themselves
00:35:40.000whether or not to take the medication, that it had become politicised.
00:35:43.000Can you tell me what that was like for, you know, as well as responding to our community member there about Ron DeSantis, what it was like for the two of you to strategize and adjust as this live and volatile situation evolved?
00:36:37.000So, So, for someone like that in a time like this, it's really gratifying to work with someone who, whatever the truth is, that's what he wants to hear and I don't have to tiptoe around it.
00:36:52.000So, it's been a lot of fun working with Working with him, and he's a great guy.
00:38:02.000So it's you know, it's been it's been really great.
00:38:05.000You were subject, I think, to some pretty personal media attacks, vilified and ridiculed.
00:38:10.000Were you surprised by the level of coordination and ability and appetite to dismiss your free speech as well as your professional expertise when it came to this subject, Doctor?
00:38:27.000I mean, just most recently, we had some measles cases in South Florida, and the lockdowners were hungry for us to lock the kids out of school who didn't have a history of prior measles or a vaccine.
00:39:32.000They do their damage, they dust off their hands and they're on to the next little area
00:39:38.000where they're gonna do some more damage.
00:39:40.000So it's been a surprise to me, even sometimes, even this late in the game,
00:39:44.000how both vicious and irresponsible and manipulative they can be.
00:39:49.000But thanks to guys like you, I think more and more people are... I know more and more people are becoming aware of how it's not... Increasingly, they're not a tool for information.
00:40:04.000Most people don't want to participate in that.
00:40:06.000Yeah, what's good news, Doc, and thanks for the compliment, is that there is growing mistrust in public health precisely because of, I feel, the figure we discussed at the beginning of our conversation, Anthony Fauci, there.
00:40:20.000And yet many of the comments now in our live community are talking about how You are the very type of person that people would trust as a Surgeon General for an entire nation.
00:40:33.000Indeed, there does need to be radical change in the type of appointments that are made, in the type of rhetoric that we hear, in the type of manner that the conversation with the public and community at large is conducted.
00:40:45.000What I mean specifically by that is, you know, like you said with the measles outbreak in your state, If you don't want to take your kids to school, then they're your kids.
00:41:00.000You know, like I feel that that's the sort of approach to governing that many of us want.
00:41:05.000Here are a few pieces of information that are interesting, that indicate where the trust in public health, and perhaps one might argue the media more generally, is going with it.
00:41:15.000Being recently announced that it's not legal to refer to ivermectin as animal medicine now, horse paste specifically, which was, you know, in When Attacking Joe Rogan, that's the course that the entire legacy media with one voice parroted that claim.
00:41:34.000A few things, CDC have reported the highest childhood vaccine exemption rate ever in the U.S.
00:41:40.000A few of, in our country, only one-fifth of National Health Service staff, that's like nurses, key workers, doctors, etc, have had cold and flu jabs this winter.
00:41:49.000now only 15% of US adults have received boosters, a huge drop from 80% in 2022. So the ability to
00:41:59.000implement policy or to control public behavior has been, it seems, adversely affected during this
00:42:07.000time, which I suppose shows why the medical policy and the policies around communication
00:42:13.000and censorship had to be aligned. Because to me it wouldn't be obvious at all that if you were
00:42:18.000just presenting a beneficial medicine to a needy public, why censorship and the shutting down of
00:42:52.000These last few years, it's just made it so obviously clear to me that, unfortunately, We have a system in this country and in this world, including your country and every country that they touch, that is designed to maximize profits for corporations, not designed to maximize our health.
00:43:19.000It is a profit-intended system that we operate in, and it masquerades as a health system.
00:43:30.000And this is not an attack by any means on life-saving surgeries and medications and therapies.
00:44:18.000For the folks who are promulgating these technologies, these new meds, these new whatever it is, what's promulgating it is a desire to accumulate more, more money, perhaps more power, just more, not more health.
00:44:36.000You know, with a system like that, it's important that people recognize what we're up against.
00:45:42.000NJBrit in our community asked, "If Trump is elected, would you be interested in the Surgeon
00:45:48.000General's position if it were offered?"
00:45:50.000And I'd like to add to that, would you...
00:45:54.000And I don't know if this is something that's encompassed within that role, but would you
00:45:58.000be advocating for a kind of money out of health position?
00:46:03.000An FDA that wasn't funded to the tune of 70% of its revenue by the companies that it's supposed to be regulating?
00:46:11.000Do we need to get lobbying out of politics?
00:46:14.000Do we need to control the way that big pharma companies are able to fund legacy media and the obvious financial ties and leverage
00:46:22.000that that gives them. What are the kind of changes, given that you've just offered the
00:46:26.000diagnosis that the problem is that avarice is what motivates the medical profession, what
00:46:31.000policies could be introduced in this, in the event that you found yourself in a, again,
00:46:38.000a vaulted position at the national and federal level? Would you, what kind of policies would
00:46:44.000you, and changes would you you advocate for Dr. Latipo? - Yeah.
00:46:50.000Well, I think I definitely want to have as much influence as possible with these issues because I feel obligated to.
00:47:01.000I feel very strongly that I'm correct in terms of the things that I say and feel.
00:47:09.000And so, you know, I think I'd be open to exploring anything, any way of achieving that, you know, along with my wife and the kids to make sure everyone's on the same page with it.
00:47:20.000You know, it can be tough to be in these positions with a family.
00:47:25.000And, you know, it's interesting because the answer actually isn't going to come from policy.
00:47:30.000The answer doesn't come from policy because It's a common dynamic, as you know, Russell, that when you change the goalpost, or you make something nearer, or you push people this way, those things will change what people do.
00:47:48.000But when the folks who are involved When they care about something different than your objective, they will constantly and forever be looking for little holes, little ways to get around those new goalposts and those new barriers.
00:48:06.000And they will do that You know, for eternity, right?
00:48:12.000I mean, that stuff doesn't work as well as you want.
00:48:18.000So, where the change needs to happen is where it's happening right now, which is with the people.
00:48:24.000When you change the vibration of the people, when you change our orientation to ourselves and to the truth and to information and to our goals and what we want in our lives, these systems that are only about profit and not about health, they will not survive.
00:48:48.000And that type of change is sustainable and can last forever and will direct itself as the circumstances of the world change to meet whatever the needs are at that time.
00:48:59.000So, what I would do would be to focus on the people and access to the type of programs, of interventions, of technology that can help people raise their vibration, shed stress, shed trauma, Connect with God.
00:49:19.000Connect with their connection with the universe.
00:50:31.000In a sense, We're all victims of MKUltra now, which, by the way, if you're an AwakendWonder, you'll get a special video on only available to our AwakendWonder community because all of our consciousness is being managed and manipulated.
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00:50:51.000Now, to present the news to you in a way you will never see in the mainstream media.
00:51:10.000With the amount of censorship that surrounds the issue of Covid, are we ever likely to get the truth about white clots?
00:51:20.000Let's have a look first of all at a conversation between Dr. John Campbell and the brilliant Neil Oliver so that we can understand what these white clots are.
00:51:32.000Then we'll look at John Campbell talking to an expert on the subject and then we'll look at some medical data and medical analysis so we can understand whether this is something we have to continue to be concerned about and why we're not discussing it more plainly and broadly.
00:51:44.000It really is like something out of a low-grade novel, Neil, isn't it?
00:51:47.000You've got this new, or apparently completely new, pathology being found in dead bodies around the world.
00:51:54.000And we know that these have been found, these strange, mysterious, long, Rubbery white clots have been found in bodies in the United Kingdom, the United States, Canada, New Zealand, Australia.
00:52:13.000Now, I've actually heard about these some time ago, but I didn't realise how abundant they were.
00:52:18.000And then I was interviewing Major Tom Haviland, who's a data analyst in the States.
00:52:23.000And he's actually reached out to 269 embalmers with an average of 15 years experience each, embalming about 100 bodies a year on average per person.
00:52:33.000And in the year 2023, 73% of these embalmers have observed these strange white stringy rubbery clots.
00:52:58.000I don't like the phrase rubbery clots being said again and again and again, but I suppose even more disgusting than the language and the image is the idea that there are emergent phenomena that aren't being plainly discussed.
00:53:09.000If you consider the amount of propaganda that surrounded the Covid period, how you were informed of all the potential Threats, and the images of spores, and the propaganda films of people coughing out their laughs, and the hospitals that were erected, and the internment camps, and the medications, and the comms were pretty hot, weren't they?
00:53:33.000And all of a sudden, like something, as Dr. John observed, quite sci-fi and simultaneously lo-fi and revolting has emerged, and You're not really hearing it discussed to the degree that it perhaps ought, if it is as prevalent as is suggested.
00:53:47.000That can be an inch long or can be up to 30 inches long are there, and have been pulled out of the arterial systems and the venous systems of dead bodies.
00:53:58.000And there's some anecdotal reports of them being pulled out of living bodies by surgeons as well, but we know for sure in about 20% of dead bodies.
00:54:12.000Before we get into Dr. Jones' conversation with a well-informed expert on the subject, let's read you a little text.
00:54:17.000In a world gripped by the relentless march of a pandemic, the discovery of white clots in the deceased has ignited a firestorm of controversy, drawing attention from healthcare professionals, conspiracy theorists, and concerned public alike.
00:54:29.000I'm all of those, except I'm not a healthcare professional.
00:54:32.000At the heart of this debate lies a critical question.
00:54:34.000Is there a link between these unusual clots and mRNA COVID-19 vaccines?
00:54:39.000When Thai neurologist Dr Thiruvath, referencing the insights of English YouTuber and retired nurse educator Campbell, took to Facebook to discuss the presence of white clots in the carotid arteries of the deceased, the online community took notice.
00:54:52.000Particularly concerning was Thiruvath's suggestion that these clots found in individuals with a history of mRNA COVID vaccinations might be connected to sudden deaths.
00:55:01.000I can't see that it would be good to have a 30-inch rubbery white blood clot in your arterial system.
00:55:09.000I can't imagine that it would be advantageous.
00:55:11.000And it does seem extraordinary that excess deaths are widely being underreported and mismanaged mathematically by offices of statisticians.
00:55:22.000That heart disease appears to have significantly risen, that certain types of cancer appear to have risen, that these medications were patented in an unusual way at an unusual time, that the lab leak itself is potentially a result of dual purpose research.
00:55:37.000There are too many intersecting factors for there now to be an odd HG Wells arterial triffid-like
00:55:43.000story to emerge without it being cause for concern.
00:55:47.000Despite his advocacy for vaccination, Thierervat's call for further investigation into these
00:55:51.000clots stirred a blend of support, scepticism and outright fear.
00:55:55.000I don't like when people go "Stop looking into these!"
00:55:57.000Perhaps it's my own fault that I haven't seen anyone offer a reasonable explanation.
00:56:03.000And that's what I think censorship obviously fosters.
00:56:06.000Like, if you saw someone senior and plausible come out and go, look, you're all talking about these rubbery, disgusting white blood clots.
00:56:12.000Well, it's perfectly natural to have them.
00:56:14.000What it is, is as a result of this, in fact, there have always been rubbery white blood clots.
00:56:19.000You know, there's so little trust, isn't there, these days?
00:56:21.000So much concern, so much censorship, and also a lack of the kind of discourse that I'm suggesting would be helpful.
00:56:27.000The debate over the white clots and their potential linkage to COVID-19 vaccines has not unfolded in a vacuum.
00:56:33.000It reflects broader societal tensions around vaccine safety, efficacy, and trust in scientific institutions in the face of conflicting opinions, the call for rigorous, transparent, and accessible research has never been louder.
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00:57:50.000The crux of the matter lies in distinguishing between correlation and causation.
00:57:54.000A task that requires meticulous scientific investigation.
00:57:57.000Yeah, and the ability to listen to a host of diverse experts.
00:58:00.000What it doesn't need is scientism and censorship, which is what's been going on for the last five years.
00:58:05.000Amid the fervor, Theravath's decision to cease public discussions on the topic underscores a challenging reality for those advocating vaccine awareness.
00:58:12.000His ongoing commitment to vaccine safety, without outright opposition to vaccination, highlighted the nuanced positions individuals may find themselves in when confronting potential public health issues.
00:58:22.000You can actually take this a lot further than even the issues outlined by this article that health has become A corrupted industry.
00:58:30.000That was evident even if you take coronavirus out of it and you look at the opioid crisis that preceded it and the numerous times big pharma companies have settled out of court to repress embarrassing information.
00:58:40.000If you observe the fact that the FDA is largely funded by pharmaceutical companies and that drugs are often, if not rushed through, then ushered through in order to facilitate profit.
00:58:49.000When you observe that what would always be a matter for individual choice became a matter of mandate in some instances and compulsion in others, you realise that we've travelled a long way, perhaps without the proper papers to facilitate a journey into the type of trust that was undertaken.
00:59:06.000In short, I suppose the whole idea of vaccination, even prior to the controversial period that we're now living in, Is that they may be good for populations, but when it comes to individuals, you have to ask a question.
00:59:17.000And when you have a pharmaceutical industry that's incentivized to release products, to have products regulated as lightly as possible, but as regular as conceivable, i.e.
00:59:27.000the normalization of COVID shots, it's flu season, it's COVID season, take these things all the time.
00:59:32.000You have an extraordinary culture of mistrust.
00:59:34.000During the time of the pandemic, they became so sort of zealous about the efficacy of vaccines and the absolute need to take them without question that I think they created this odd climate where people that were sort of sceptical or concerned, like Dr J Bhattacharya or this Dr Thiruvath, Who are actually not anti-vaxxers at all, that are like doctors.
00:59:54.000And people like Robert Malone, who I think invented vaccines, they were sort of cast as anti-vaxxers because they were dissenting voices.
01:00:01.000Now you have this extraordinary climate where people say, oh actually I think vaccines are a good thing on the whole for society and I am a scientist and I'm dedicated to pharmacology and this is the world I live in.
01:00:08.000However, there may be a corollary between these medications and these odd, disgusting, white blood clot things.
01:00:14.000There's this odd Veil of secrecy and inability to openly discuss it, which is the sort of thing that often surrounds, if I may say, corporate crime outside of this context.
01:00:23.000So, you can't claim that we're all supposed to be following the science, and then when scientists happen to be dissenting, right, you're not the sort of scientist, then what's the argument now?
01:00:53.000That's what power does, to ensure its power is not challenged.
01:00:56.000So I think that the discipline of science was exploited during this period, and that's why you can't have clear, open conversations around these subjects.
01:01:03.000I suppose that when it comes to medical matters, even in the event of it being a contagious condition, it has to remain a matter of personal responsibility.
01:01:10.000Because otherwise, when you have compelled medications, you're making some extraordinary claims about society.
01:01:14.000You can't all of a sudden, not now, not in this climate, say, we all have to take these vaccines because we're all in it together.
01:01:19.000Well, um, economic inequality, constant war, Gaza, the Ukraine, I mean, it just doesn't make sense in this context.
01:01:27.000So I suppose, yeah, the idea now that something sort of disgusting and visually evocative, like white rubbery sinew appearing in arteries and the conversation about it being somewhat censored, dampened down, controlled, not fully illuminated and explored, is a further indication that indeed we are living in unusual times where a real reckoning and appraisal of what the role of public health is, what the role of vaccines are, and what our individual freedom ought look like.
01:01:54.000As society navigates these turbulent waters, the importance of critical thinking, open dialogue and reliance on credible sources of information becomes ever more apparent.
01:02:02.000The quest for truth in this case is not just about white clots or vaccines, it's about how we as a collective address fear, uncertainty and the hunger for answers in an age of information overload.
01:02:11.000The resolution to the debate over white clots It may just be a piece of a much larger puzzle in understanding and combating the COVID-19 pandemic.
01:02:34.000Yeah, well, we think it's growing, right?
01:02:35.000So at some point it's smaller, right, and blood's still able to flow around, but then at some point it completely blocks off a vessel, or your embolism breaks off and goes to a critical juncture, and that's when you get your stroke or heart attack.
01:02:48.000So, you know, it may be a process where it takes maybe six months, maybe 12 or 18 months for these to grow to the size that they become dangerous to a living person.
01:03:02.000I like old Dr. John Campbell style, because when he said, oh, they could be growing for some months, because Dr. John Campbell has to be careful of YouTube restrictions.
01:03:09.000So when he does things like, oh, really, what he means is, so what time were the vaccines administered?
01:03:16.000We're not sure, but the data that I've collected seems to indicate that's a possibility.
01:03:20.000Some of the embalmers didn't start seeing the white fibrous cloths until the middle of 2021.
01:03:30.000After a certain event happened earlier that year.
01:03:33.000Look at everyone in the wonderful world of euphemism tiptoeing their way around guidelines that exist actually precisely to stop this conversation happening.
01:03:48.000There was a lot of people getting the Wuhan version of the SARS coronavirus 2 and then into the Alpha.
01:03:56.000Were, and that's before the vaccine rollout of course, when this disease was presumably rampant, because there was no vaccination, were you getting any reports of these white things, whatever we call them, happening in 2020?
01:04:18.000I did indeed, John, to a lesser extent.
01:04:20.000In our first survey, 44 of the embalmers, we got 179 responses from embalmers in our first survey that we did last year, and 44 of those embalmers did see the white fibrous clots Um and that makes sense because like I said there's a spike protein on the surface of the virus itself and we believe that spike protein on the virus on the virus itself can lead to the formation of these amyloid proteins.
01:04:44.000That's interesting because obviously what a lot of people say no it's coronavirus that's causing these clots so it's not the fault of vaccines and therefore science but then you might think for a few seconds longer about the origins of coronavirus and why it's got that spike
01:04:59.000protein and you will be forced to conclude that it emerged from the Wuhan Institute
01:05:03.000of Virology where they were doing dual-purpose research and you're back to
01:05:18.000So many more embalmers saw the phenomenon in 2021.
01:05:22.000And as we know, there's a rationale for that, right?
01:05:25.000Because the medical intervention was supposed to stay in your deltoid muscle.
01:05:31.000And produce just enough of the spike protein to elicit an immune response, and do that for just a couple of days or a week, and then it's job is done.
01:05:39.000It's got you ready for COVID when it came.
01:05:41.000But we know now that that's not what happened at all.
01:05:45.000The medical intervention goes all over your body, turning your whole body into a spike protein factory, and it can do that for months at a time.
01:05:52.000So the scientists that I've talked to, John, believe that it's exacerbated or supercharged the effect of the formation of these white fibrous clots.
01:05:59.000I just have to take a breath, Tom, to pause so I don't get cross.
01:06:03.000You know, we were told exactly what you said.
01:06:17.000And, uh... We're just starting to learn some of the consequences of that.
01:06:22.000Misinformation, lie, whatever, propaganda, or whatever you want to call it, but...
01:06:28.000We'll stick with, we'll just stick with it.
01:06:31.000So 2021-2022, did the amount that we're seeing remain constant 2021-2022-2023?
01:06:32.000We just checked this year, the percentage of corpses that contain the white fibrous clots went down from an average of about 30% down to 20%.
01:07:05.000And you'll note that the response to excess deaths has been to change the way that deaths are recorded.
01:07:10.000I feel like it's difficult not to correlate this information and conclude that something unusual is happening.
01:07:18.000Even when you see Dr. John Campbell sort of rather articulately describe the disparity between what we were initially told the vaccines, you know, they won't even call them that anymore, medications, whatever you want to call them, Supposed to do, remain on site and elicit a small manufacture or response of the creation of spike proteins but actually no, they distribute throughout the whole body.
01:07:39.000You know how it all sort of starts to make sense because you've heard it all now and all of us that don't have the kind of medical understanding that Dr. John does and his partner in this video are beginning to understand through this sort of couple of years of education that really you can't trust what you're told in the first place and you have to be very aware about what you put into your body and the motives of the people that might want to put it there.
01:08:06.000And that's not necessarily an indication of the medical intervention.
01:08:09.000Because if you remember, here in America, about 80% of adults over the age of 18 had at least the first two medical interventions way back in 2021.
01:08:17.000But only about 20% of Americans took the VA-4, VA-5, Bi-Van-O-Prom booster in the fall of 2022.
01:08:28.000And even less Americans, about 15%, John, took the XBB-1.5 booster that came out last fall of 2023.
01:08:35.000So as you get further and further away from the medical interventions, you might expect to see less of these white fibrous clots, which is indeed what Embalmers said in 2023.
01:08:45.000All of these inquiries that are taking place, like, can you imagine?
01:08:47.000In a sensible world, that would be included in an inquiry, wouldn't it?
01:08:51.000I remember the first time I heard, embalmers are finding weird stuff.
01:09:06.000During this period there was a huge wave and then it subsided during this period.
01:09:11.000And avoiding the conclusions that appear to suggest themselves feels like a level of obedience that I just can't personally live with anymore.
01:09:20.000Basically I think we've identified a temporal correlation and a quantitative temporal correlation there.
01:09:28.000Well, you know, we can't necessarily say... Correlation's not necessarily causation, Jon.
01:09:32.000People say that a lot lately, don't they?
01:09:34.000Because it's become a convenient phrase.
01:09:58.000It's an extraordinary time we're living in and these hideous, ghouling, gruesome, gory, white blood clot things seem to be a kind of remnant emblem, a souvenir of a rather disgusting time that we've all lived through.
01:10:12.000An inconvenient piece of detritus that will have to be addressed at some point, probably by us and responsible physicians like those we've just seen communicating, because it's unlikely to crop up in the COVID inquiry in our country, the various inquiries in your country and throughout the world.
01:10:29.000It'll be one of those things that's just parceled off into indefinite delay, which is what's happening in the COVID inquiry in our country, specifically with reference to vaccines.
01:10:37.000And I wonder why That might be in an election year, perhaps, so that the globalist agenda can continue.
01:10:43.000But that actually isn't based on scientific data.
01:10:46.000That's based on what I call common sense.
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