Stay Free - Russel Brand - March 11, 2024


Dr Pierre Kory - On New Excess Death Data


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In this episode, Russell Brand sits down with Pierre de la Motte to discuss the phenomenon of rising death rates among young people, and why the government is doing nothing to stop it. This episode is sponsored by Awakening Wonders, a non-profit organization dedicated to educating and elevating consciousness. To find a list of our sponsors and show-related promo codes, go to gimlet.fm/sponsorships/awakeningwonderings and enter promo code: AWAKINGWonderings to receive 10% off your first purchase when you enter the invite code AWAKeningWonders. To learn more about our sponsorships and how you can support Awakening Wonders, visit awakenings.org/support and click here to get 10% all-inclusive when you sign up for our 5-Day Trial! You'll get access to all of our special offers, including early Bird pricing, early Bird Pricing, and Early Bird Pricing. We'll be delivering a detailed breakdown of current topics that the mainstream media should be covering, but if they are covering, they're amplifying establishment messages and not telling you the truth. Once a week, we bring you in-depth conversations with guests like Jordan Peterson, RFK Jr., Sam Harris, Veena Shiva, Vandana Shiva, Gabor Mate, and many more. Stay Free with Russell Brand. Stay Free! - Remember, there's an episode every single day to educate and elevate our consciousness together. - Stay Free, to elevate consciousness together, stay free! and elevate your consciousness together! . - The Awakening Wonders by Russell Brand and much more. . . . by Gaboror. by , by Jordan Peterson & much more! by Sam Harris And many more . , and in this episode of Awakening Wonders is a podcast by The Root, by The New York Times Magazine, The Root's newest podcast, The Root s new book, The Other Way by JANE FRIENDS by JUICY VANESTERRUPTAKE by VERNAND RYAN MARTINEKUCHER, , and by GORGARDEN WEBBER, and more! . . , and more? (featuring the late, JANE KELLY PODCAST, THE PORTAL)


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00:00:50.000 Thanks, Russell.
00:00:51.000 It's an honour.
00:00:52.000 I first want to talk about excess deaths and the peculiar quirk that it is insurance companies that have contributed to the revelation of the extent of excess deaths because they needed to adjust their premiums to account for unexpected and unusual deaths.
00:01:09.000 Why is this, first of all, significant, Pierre?
00:01:12.000 Well, I think, you know, the actuarial industry, that's data that really, there's no incentive to corrupt.
00:01:19.000 I mean, that's how they make their money, right?
00:01:21.000 So that's as accurate a data as it's possible.
00:01:23.000 They have to know what the death rates are, right, in order to price their products.
00:01:28.000 And they started talking about how they saw unprecedented rates of dying.
00:01:33.000 In fact, they said historically unprecedented.
00:01:36.000 They've never seen rates of death like this amongst young people.
00:01:40.000 Largely starting in 2021, and in particular that third quarter.
00:01:44.000 And if I don't know if you were aware of what was going on in the US in the third quarter of 21, but that's when all of the mandates proliferated.
00:01:50.000 So university, health care, colleges, corporations.
00:01:55.000 And the most telling data comes out of the group life health insurance industry, because in the United States, those who have group life health insurance policies is essentially Fortune 500 companies.
00:02:05.000 Those are corporate employees.
00:02:07.000 They're historically the healthiest members of society.
00:02:11.000 Far and away the healthiest members, dying at the lowest rates, and suddenly they started dying at rates higher than the general U.S.
00:02:18.000 population, particularly young people.
00:02:21.000 That's extraordinary.
00:02:22.000 It's also peculiar to me that a revelation would come out of an institution or industry such as the one you have described because one imagines that what we would loosely call establishment interests or the preservation of the interests of the system would prevail against those kind of revelations.
00:02:45.000 But as you have explained previously in your many op-eds on this subject, often with incredible caution, That they haven't advertised or even sought to demonstrate what the cause of these excess deaths might be, simply that there are unprecedented excess deaths.
00:03:02.000 Now what's striking to people that operate in our space, that's independent media space, that's anti-establishment space, is that these kind of ideas, that we would see unprecedented and unusual excess deaths as a result of these medications, that was regarded as an outlandish, peripheral, and is still not yet It's not empirically demonstrable.
00:03:23.000 It's not demonstrably true that what's behind this is vaccine injury or vaccine related deaths or heart disease or a variety of other conditions.
00:03:33.000 But isn't it extraordinary to see information moving from the periphery, from what you would loosely call conspiracy theory, becoming verified either in the field of medicine or in this case the field of finance.
00:03:44.000 And if If something as significant and as obvious as the adjustment of insurance premiums to account for, oh we can't insure you because you might die in your 30s or 40s in a way that's completely unanticipated or at least couldn't be anticipated 10 years ago, why would the FDA or a comparable organisation not be conducting a serious investigation into the phenomena of excess deaths?
00:04:09.000 I think that would open the door to admitting immense responsibility and liability for what we're talking about, Russell, which is that this is a humanitarian catastrophe.
00:04:17.000 I mean, in my most recent op-ed, we have data show that in the first nine months of 2023,
00:04:24.000 158,000 Americans died more than predicted, more than would be expected by stable rates
00:04:31.000 of death.
00:04:33.000 That's more than all the combat losses, including Vietnam and beyond, ever since.
00:04:38.000 And so this is a massive amount of Americans dying.
00:04:41.000 Our life expectancy dropped from 79 to 76 in the span of three years.
00:04:47.000 Who has to die for that to happen?
00:04:48.000 It's nothing but young people.
00:04:50.000 The rates, the most alarming rates are the 35 to 44 and 44 to 55.
00:04:55.000 There were incredible sudden spikes in death, really centered in the third quarter and fourth
00:05:01.000 quarter of 2021.
00:05:02.000 You have to ask yourself what major societal event occurred at that time that could possibly
00:05:09.000 explain those deaths.
00:05:11.000 It was not all COVID deaths.
00:05:12.000 We have the data.
00:05:13.000 You can't explain it with COVID.
00:05:15.000 I've not seen anyone with a credible alternative explanation for a sudden spike in the healthiest
00:05:21.000 members of the society.
00:05:22.000 And the other interesting thing about the data is, when you look at who is dying, it's essentially the white-collar workers died more than gray-collar that died more than blue-collar.
00:05:33.000 So you have to ask yourself, what happened in the workplace, in the American workplace, in the third quarter of 21?
00:05:39.000 And that's the only answer I can come up with.
00:05:42.000 Well, that's extraordinary.
00:05:43.000 So it prevails more among the class of people that will have been mandated or at least compelled to take those medications, at least that is a conclusion that could be drawn.
00:05:56.000 One of the things that's fascinated me, Pierre, has been the number of times that an evident pre-bunking took place. The idea that it was
00:06:06.000 conspiratorial to query the indemnity that the vaccine manufacturers were granted, that many people
00:06:14.000 that operate again in these kind of spaces pointed out was peculiar and cause for concern. The Pfizer
00:06:21.000 and Moderna being granted indemnity.
00:06:24.000 Now of course in the UK we're seeing now some legal actions against country, companies, excuse
00:06:29.000 me, I sometimes get country and company mixed up. I can see why that error Freudian though it may be
00:06:35.000 occurs like the AstraZeneca.
00:06:38.000 You know I've been found potential or at least being pursued legally because of blood clots and heart conditions There's been acknowledgement of myocarditis of course, but when you piece together even from a position of punditry rather than expertise which is of course the position that you're assessing this from is It seems that when you look at the indemnity that was granted, the significance of the propaganda, the astonishing trope that people take vaccinations in order to protect the vulnerable and elderly prior to the revelation that there were no clinical trials against transmission.
00:07:13.000 So that was an entirely bogus argument from the beginning.
00:07:17.000 One of the things that some people, sociologists, pundits, epidemiologists said is that we could potentially In order to, at least the argument was, preserve and protect older people, be exposing young people to incredible risk.
00:07:32.000 And this data suggests that that's exactly what's happened.
00:07:36.000 Absolutely.
00:07:37.000 I mean, we know...
00:07:39.000 Even without the data on transmission, we already knew the severity of the illness, how young people fared, how really no young people were dying from COVID, yet we had experimental therapy rolled out in which exploded the VAERS database from day one.
00:07:55.000 I mean, I was first made aware of problems with, not problems with VAERS, but signals from VAERS.
00:08:00.000 The third week of January 2020, we already had several hundred deaths reported, which far exceeded the stopping point of any novel product.
00:08:08.000 And what has been happening since then?
00:08:10.000 Nothing but dismissal, distortion, and ignoring of all that data.
00:08:13.000 And it continues, as we're talking about today with this life insurance data.
00:08:16.000 Who's talking about it?
00:08:17.000 Who's investigating this?
00:08:18.000 That's what these op-eds are trying to call out.
00:08:21.000 We're trying to get the political class to understand.
00:08:23.000 That our society is sick.
00:08:25.000 We're seeing more dying of young people than we've ever seen before.
00:08:29.000 And there's no concerted look into this.
00:08:32.000 There's no public investigation.
00:08:33.000 I know in this country, MP Andrew Bridgen had a hearing about excess mortality.
00:08:38.000 I'm sure that was censored and debunked, like you said, pre-bunked or debunked.
00:08:41.000 And it's shocking.
00:08:43.000 And, you know, the last thing I want to say about this, Russell, is you mentioned kind of like some information coming from the world of conspiracy theorists and then more into kind of maybe mainstream.
00:08:52.000 The way in which I've learned to articulate it is, I think of it as my goal throughout COVID has been bringing the private knowledge that us experts have gained and bringing it into common knowledge.
00:09:04.000 And that process, without people like you and other independent media prospects, is nearly impossible.
00:09:10.000 Because that dome of censorship around mass media, which is controlled by pharma, you can't bring inconvenient science around these products into general knowledge.
00:09:21.000 I really think that's what we have to do.
00:09:23.000 When you put it in those terms, Pierre, it's sort of comparable to the kind of hold that institutions such as the church held over the population in medieval times, when esoteric information, in particular scriptural analysis, was kept from the general population in order to prevent their enlightenment and their awakening.
00:09:39.000 Perhaps we're seeing something comparable now.
00:09:42.000 We were discussing that it's interesting that the media, who of course in certain areas are very vigorous in their investigation and pursuit of certain targets, often dissenting voices. Not
00:09:52.000 only are they not interested in amplifying this type of story or investigating this type of
00:09:57.000 story, these sorts of stories are being actively censored. We know that Moderna spent a
00:10:02.000 good deal of money, time, and resources tracking our action. We know that the
00:10:07.000 Department of Culture and Media in this country spent significant money supporting a group
00:10:12.000 called Logically AI that de-amplify and censor information in particular around the pandemic
00:10:19.000 period, the social regulations around it, and of course the medical mandates and
00:10:25.000 suggestions, if not mandates, around that So not only are these stories not being covered, they're being
00:10:33.000 Actively controlled and censored.
00:10:36.000 That I suppose further suggests that there is something significant at play.
00:10:41.000 Something potentially epochal and indeed that's why the conversation can't take place because if the conversation did take place what that conversation would lead to is a considerable reckoning.
00:10:51.000 Do you think that's true, Pierre?
00:10:52.000 100%.
00:10:52.000 I mean, I consider COVID to have been a war of information.
00:10:57.000 And it's really been a war against propaganda.
00:10:59.000 And, you know, I always have to remind myself and others, my favorite definition of propaganda, which comes from Professor Mark Crispin Miller, is he says propaganda is a story or a message.
00:11:11.000 To get you to think or act in a certain way.
00:11:14.000 And if you look at COVID, it's been nothing but these mass disseminated stories and messages that the vaccines are safe and effective, that you need to save grandma, so much of this behavioral psychology that's been practiced on us, to get us to do things that have really been directly opposed to our interests.
00:11:31.000 And that's why I'm here talking about it, because we're seeing death result.
00:11:35.000 This war of information, being fed bad information, essentially lies to propel the vaccine campaign, the competing pricey pharmaceutical products, the immense profits that they've gained, has been on the backs of scientific lies.
00:11:48.000 And also, like, lack of logic.
00:11:51.000 You know, to me, the thing that I think everyone needs to remind themselves is they, meaning the FDA, those in power, They disappeared natural immunity overnight.
00:12:01.000 Yeah.
00:12:01.000 Which is a bedrock of science.
00:12:03.000 We literally had countries around the world vaccinating people who just recovered from COVID.
00:12:09.000 And in many cases, they were being vaccinated with a spike protein from a variant that's two years old.
00:12:16.000 And so they're using old vaccines for people to recover.
00:12:19.000 Nothing made sense.
00:12:21.000 And I think people have to understand the corrupt control of our agencies, our medical journals, and the insane medical propaganda that was disseminated in order to support these campaigns and the immense profits that they realized.
00:12:36.000 You're right, we are engaged in an information war because I recall, Pierre, that another of the tropes that I was aware of, again just because of outspoken experts who at that point perhaps weren't even aware of the risks they were taking, who pontificated, well beyond pontificated, That you do not vaccinate during a pandemic.
00:12:58.000 Why can't we discuss natural immunity?
00:13:00.000 Of course, either Mectin, we'll discuss in more detail.
00:13:03.000 But what's extraordinary is that not only are the lessons of this period not being learned, the mistakes are being doubled down on.
00:13:11.000 This country has just passed the UK online safety bill that facilitates unprecedented censorship, of course, on the basis of protecting the vulnerable.
00:13:18.000 That's always how new tyrannies legitimize their Further centralisation of authoritarianism.
00:13:24.000 Canada has introduced comparable legislation.
00:13:26.000 Ireland is trying to introduce unprecedented measures.
00:13:30.000 And France has just made it illegal to criticise certain recommended medical measures.
00:13:39.000 But it's clearly, and it has indeed been dubbed, the article Pfizer.
00:13:43.000 Designed to prevent people from discussing or criticizing vaccines under threat of imprisonment of up to three years.
00:13:52.000 What does this tell us about the relationship between the pharmaceutical industry and the state?
00:13:58.000 And what appears to be taking place?
00:14:01.000 You must have speculated.
00:14:02.000 I mean, I know that you are a doctor, a scientist and a medical expert, but sociologically and in terms of power dynamics, something unprecedented appears to be taking place.
00:14:13.000 I'm not an expert in those areas, but I've sort of had to become one, because after discovering certain scientific truths by looking at the totality of the evidence around numerous topics with COVID, I've had to be faced with regular lies being issued from medical journals, media, newspapers, and out of the mouth of health care agencies.
00:14:13.000 Well, you're right.
00:14:33.000 And so you're left asking yourself, what is going on here?
00:14:37.000 And like you said, it's a war of information.
00:14:40.000 But I mean, these are just abject lies and we have to call them out.
00:14:44.000 And you mentioned briefly the suspicion and sense that there were financial motivations behind some
00:14:54.000 of the policies, discussions and amplified messaging.
00:14:59.000 We have your book here, The War on Ivermectin.
00:15:01.000 For a while, Ivermectin was censored as a term.
00:15:06.000 Along with natural immunity, vitamin D, exercise, fresh air, and good honest praise of nature and the Lord, Ivermectin became foreboding in and of itself.
00:15:19.000 It seems that whilst we were told that the orthodoxy that was under attack was science itself, Fauci of course famously said, I am science.
00:15:29.000 And as is often the case, ordinary people were cast as idiots of It isn't science that's being questioned, it's the corporatisation of science.
00:15:43.000 It's science as a subset of other imperatives.
00:15:46.000 Of course, true science would be an open analysis and examination of all of the data, including conflicting data, so that a proper conclusion might be reached.
00:15:54.000 How is the story of Ivermectin a good metric for understanding the corporatisation of science, the co-opting of science, Yeah, and I think it is the example.
00:16:07.000 It's sort of like what I was just saying, is that by becoming this expert, I understood, I had to look at what was wrong with society, because I knew what the truth was around Ivermectin.
00:16:15.000 But, you know, I wrote the book The War on Ivermectin, but one of my colleagues could have written the book The War on Hydroxychloroquine.
00:16:21.000 I mean, that was the first war.
00:16:22.000 Right.
00:16:23.000 And so there was a concerted effort to suppress and distort the evidence of efficacy for safe, available, repurposed drugs that are inexpensive and highly effective.
00:16:33.000 And so you saw this concerted campaign to attack it in order to preserve those corporate interests.
00:16:41.000 Let me just tell you kind of the inspiration I had for the book.
00:16:45.000 Actually, when I first had the inspiration, I didn't have a book in mind, I had a lecture in mind.
00:16:49.000 But what happened to me is, you may know this, I gave a testimony in the U.S.
00:16:54.000 Senate on the critical need for ivermectin.
00:16:56.000 Actually, I saw that.
00:16:58.000 That was right near the beginning of it.
00:17:00.000 Oh yeah, that's all just come making sense now.
00:17:02.000 And you know, that kind of went viral.
00:17:04.000 It kind of brought ivermectin as a topic around therapeutics.
00:17:07.000 Yeah!
00:17:09.000 Very soon after that, my life and those of my colleagues in my organization started to go sideways.
00:17:14.000 No, why?
00:17:14.000 What do you mean?
00:17:15.000 What happened?
00:17:16.000 Oh, I lost a job pretty immediately, my papers started getting retracted, that I'd passed peer review by expert scientists, four rounds of peer review, and we just got retracted from the journal.
00:17:27.000 Oh my God.
00:17:27.000 Yeah, a hit job started appearing in the media, fringe quack, radical anti-vaxxer.
00:17:33.000 Oh no.
00:17:34.000 And so I wasn't sure what was going on.
00:17:36.000 But here's my story, is that in March of 21, about four months later, I got an email from a researcher, actually an expert on vitamin D, his name's Professor William B. Grant.
00:17:46.000 Didn't know who he was, saw the email, it was two lines, it said, Dear Dr. Corey, what they're doing to ivermectin they've been doing to vitamin D for decades, and included a link to an article called The Disinformation Playbook.
00:17:59.000 I think if you haven't seen the article, it's a very quick read.
00:18:02.000 I think your listeners and viewers would love to read that, because I read it Where would we find this?
00:18:08.000 Disinformation playbook?
00:18:09.000 Oddly, if you put that in Google, it gets you right to the article.
00:18:12.000 It's written by an organization called the Union of Concerned Scientists, and it's published in 2017, but it outlines these five tactics.
00:18:26.000 That industries deploy when science emerges that's inconvenient to their interests.
00:18:32.000 Wow.
00:18:32.000 And they're named after American football plays, so it's the fake, the fix, the blitz, the screen, the diversion.
00:18:37.000 Cool.
00:18:38.000 And then they give you these examples, and I started to read it, and I suddenly... it's like I got the teacher's edition to the modern world, because suddenly everything made sense.
00:18:47.000 And I realized when I read that article... Did you give yourself chills?
00:18:50.000 A little bit.
00:18:51.000 Like more chills and light bulbs.
00:18:53.000 Like end of Usual Suspects.
00:18:55.000 Oh my god!
00:18:56.000 Shit!
00:18:57.000 Oh no!
00:18:57.000 It's Kevin Spacey!
00:18:58.000 You know, it's something on that, because it literally was a formative moment for me and in COVID.
00:19:04.000 Because I saw the descriptions of the tactics and I said, They've done that three times.
00:19:09.000 They did that yesterday.
00:19:10.000 They're doing that now.
00:19:12.000 And, for instance, one of them is called The Blitz.
00:19:14.000 It's where they go after researchers who are producing the inconvenient science.
00:19:19.000 And, for instance, one of the examples in that article about The Blitz, it's actually about the movie with Will Smith where he plays the pathologist who first described the disease that happened to retired American football players.
00:19:31.000 It's called chronic traumatic encephalopathy.
00:19:34.000 That pathologist wrote a paper, published a paper, His life went sideways, because he threatened the industry of the NFL.
00:19:40.000 By the way, the NFL industry is $9 billion.
00:19:43.000 Pharmaceutical industry, $1 trillion.
00:19:46.000 Oh, wow.
00:19:47.000 So basically, myself and my colleagues, Professor Paul Merrick, who founded the organization that we run together, we've all lost our jobs, our careers.
00:19:59.000 This is what happens.
00:20:01.000 We get blitzed.
00:20:01.000 What's pretty fascinating is that one gets the sense that scientists are approaching these subjects apolitically.
00:20:11.000 And like, oh listen, we've got this information you might be interested in.
00:20:14.000 Ivermectin as an antiparasitic could be useful in the...
00:20:17.000 You better shut the fuck up!
00:20:20.000 Then you realise that you've been living in a kind of illusion.
00:20:24.000 And it's astonishing, isn't it?
00:20:26.000 Because whether it's, say, the famous influence of the Sackler family over art institutions and their cultural influence and impact, for many years, surely the world of art Relished and reveled in the patronage, the long historic tradition of patronage between wealthy individuals and wealthy organizations and the arts, and suddenly we are forced to recognize that, oh, the amount of investment the big pharma makes in academia, the buildings, the studies, the clinical trials that are funded, and perhaps more significantly the clinical trials that are not funded, has always suggested control.
00:21:07.000 Control of the information.
00:21:09.000 These are the studies.
00:21:10.000 No one is conducting expensive trials into the efficacy of ivermectin because it's a generic and therefore not profitable drug.
00:21:19.000 I just did that thing where I tell experts the thing that they're experts on.
00:21:23.000 I do that as part of my job.
00:21:24.000 I go up to an expert and go, you know that thing you know a lot about?
00:21:27.000 I think you're pretty deeply studied, Russell.
00:21:29.000 I've listened to you before, so you're allowed.
00:21:31.000 Cheers, mate.
00:21:33.000 No one's going to be doing studies into vitamin D. Remember, this is interesting because, in a sense, we saw that Joe Rogan exploded into a global figure even more than he had already during this period.
00:21:45.000 Because I suppose just conversationally, like any autodidact with the forum he has, we're saying, well, shouldn't we all be going outside and exercising and eating healthy?
00:21:55.000 And like with the kind of enthusiasm that you've described with some of your own papers, hey, I took ivermectin and antimonoclomals or whatever that word was, you know, and it seems to have worked a treat and was, you know, experienced the the
00:22:24.000 insurance industry's revelations that can't be ignored.
00:22:28.000 They've got to the point where they go, listen, we can't keep insuring people at the same rate because they're dying at an unprecedented rate.
00:22:33.000 So the information... So now what has to happen is somehow that has to be either nullified or ameliorated.
00:22:40.000 Uh-oh!
00:22:40.000 The truth's out there.
00:22:41.000 Excess deaths is not a conspiracy theory.
00:22:43.000 It's real.
00:22:44.000 158,000.
00:22:44.000 That's more like... If that had been a single event, If that had been caused by a group of people with accents and turbans, this would be a big story.
00:22:55.000 But when it's caused by Big Pharma, let's just pretend this isn't happening.
00:23:00.000 You kind of articulated a few moments ago about that kind of deep, corrupt control of the pharmaceutical industry.
00:23:08.000 I have to tell you, before COVID, I don't know what your knowledge was before COVID.
00:23:11.000 I was not aware of the scope and the scale of the corruption.
00:23:15.000 Before COVID, I venerated the high-impact medical journals like New England Journal
00:23:18.000 of Medicine and Journal of American Medical Association, The Lancet, BMJ.
00:23:22.000 I mean, if it was published in those journals, I mean, that's the best science and the best
00:23:27.000 scientist.
00:23:28.000 I mean, that is scientific truth.
00:23:29.000 To get into those high-impact journals, I really admit that when this started, you're
00:23:35.000 going to be shocked at this, Russell, but I thought Fauci was like a sympathetic guy
00:23:39.000 in a tough spot with a lot of critics.
00:23:40.000 I kind of almost felt bad for him.
00:23:41.000 I was like, oh, he's doing the best he can.
00:23:43.000 This is what I thought.
00:23:46.000 I've said this before.
00:23:47.000 I've thought the New York Times was the paper of record, the arbiter of truth.
00:23:50.000 You really want to know what's going on, you read the New York Times.
00:23:53.000 The evidence that I have amassed over these last few years is none of those things are true.
00:23:58.000 Those journals are so completely run by the pharmaceutical industry, as are the agencies and its leaders.
00:24:04.000 I mean, everyone is working, as well as the media, they're all working in the interests of a massive, rapacious criminal industry.
00:24:12.000 And it's transformed our world.
00:24:14.000 And I call our country the United States of Pharma.
00:24:16.000 The influence of the pharmaceutical industry in the United States is unparalleled compared to any other industry at the level of legislation, media, like I said, science.
00:24:25.000 I used to think pharmaceutical corruption was like the free pens and trips and the attractive drug reps who come into the offices and buy lunch for the doctors.
00:24:36.000 I thought it was a kind of marketing corruption.
00:24:38.000 Marketing.
00:24:38.000 You know, that's what I thought.
00:24:39.000 This is before COVID.
00:24:41.000 Now I go a lot, lot deeper.
00:24:43.000 That's what it seemed like.
00:24:44.000 I mean, even my references to the Sackler family, of course, then, I'm a recovering drug addict myself, but the people that were dying because of the various ultra fentanyls and opioids, Well, these are just sort of drug addicts.
00:25:00.000 These are the kind of people we don't mind if they die.
00:25:02.000 Those sort of people, they're supposed to die.
00:25:03.000 This is almost population control.
00:25:05.000 It's convenient.
00:25:07.000 And like you say, the kind of somewhat innocuous presence of an attractive rep or a free bit of merch and a tidy pen has actually We've been exposed now as a veneer that concealed or at least distracted us from extraordinary control over the media, extraordinary control over the state, extraordinary control over our health and lives, unignorable corruption that amounts to an inversion of the stated purpose of such an industry, the wellness and well-being and health of Americans or the citizens indeed of the world.
00:25:45.000 I can't Envisage a more pronounced corruption than making people sick in order to make money Rather than getting people healthy In alignment with I don't know the Hippocratic Oath.
00:25:57.000 Yeah, I you know you that's the other realization some of my awakening evolution is I now have to be I now have to accept that there are literal sociopaths at the tops of many different industries and corporations who betray, show very little empathy for the common man.
00:26:17.000 You can show this immense data and see the death and destruction wrought by these policies and products.
00:26:22.000 They do not care.
00:26:24.000 And then, you know, your other point about this model of wanting to keep people ill.
00:26:29.000 Let's go back to that email about the disinformation playbook.
00:26:32.000 I've come to learn, looking at vitamin D science, they have been attacking vitamin D with the same tactics they use for ivermectin.
00:26:39.000 Because the book, Ivermectin, was inspired by that article.
00:26:43.000 And I kind of show, I decided that day I was going to document exactly what they're doing to ivermectin.
00:26:49.000 And I documented a wealth of references, citations for each one of those tactics.
00:26:54.000 uh... but they've been doing these tactics for years vitamin d especially
00:27:00.000 vitamin d they have been doing studies for decades in numbers of disease models
00:27:05.000 where pharmaceutical industry consistently gives the wrong form of vitamin d
00:27:10.000 too low a dose for vitamin d too late in the disease model and then they'll do it in
00:27:15.000 patients who aren't vitamin d deficient
00:27:18.000 So they never really test the importance of vitamin D, and then it gets as absurd as the normal reference levels for vitamin D is atrocious.
00:27:25.000 I think in our country it's 30 to 70.
00:27:28.000 I would never allow a patient of mine to have a vitamin D level of 35.
00:27:31.000 Minimum would be 50, and preferably much higher, but they have Artificially reduced vitamin D levels, because I gotta tell you, vitamin D is the symphony of the orchestra of our immune system, as well as surveillance for cancer.
00:27:45.000 You probably wouldn't get cancer if your vitamin D level was over 100.
00:27:47.000 Oh my god!
00:27:48.000 This is as threatening as knowledge as you can be, and actually, when you look to see, does vitamin D make a difference in rheumatoid arthritis, in cancer, in any disease, and you know what you'll conclude?
00:27:58.000 That it doesn't, because you look at all the studies, they all cancel each other out.
00:28:02.000 For every positive study, they come up with a negative study.
00:28:05.000 And so, that is disinformation in science, and that's one of the tactics which is called the fake.
00:28:11.000 Yeah, that's the fake, is it?
00:28:12.000 I'm gonna study this playbook thing, it sounds bloody brilliant.
00:28:17.000 I suppose, in a way, if your business model and its success is entirely contingent on people being sick and, for example, regularly getting cancer, and there is a cheap and effective way to prevent people getting cancer, you do not want that getting out there.
00:28:33.000 And something as sort of simple And as sort of almost flatly platitudinous as that is a kind of key that you can just unlock the corpus of this disgusting, cadaverous, parasitic, vampiric entity.
00:28:48.000 No wonder they're parasites.
00:28:49.000 No wonder they're anti-ivomectin, man.
00:28:51.000 Like, it just shows you the degree of corruption that we are confronted with.
00:28:56.000 Do you think, Pierre, That damage in science, excuse me, damage in the trust in science as a result of the behavior of bad actors using science as a kind of weapon has suffered.
00:29:13.000 Do you think people don't trust science in a way that's sort of more broad now?
00:29:16.000 100%, but I actually think that is a positive.
00:29:19.000 I think there's a huge portion of society now who realize the capacity for these authorities and these institutions of science to lie to us.
00:29:29.000 And I think that skepticism and that lack of trust is good, because it's going to protect people.
00:29:33.000 They're going to ask more questions.
00:29:35.000 They're not just going to blindly accept... Did you see this thing where we had CEOs of pharmaceutical companies getting national prime time?
00:29:42.000 and interviews on news that I've never seen that before.
00:29:45.000 And I'm an old lefty, by the way, not anymore.
00:29:47.000 But I mean, we used to hate big pharma.
00:29:50.000 And now we're giving them megaphones.
00:29:52.000 And so here's what I see.
00:29:55.000 In a lot of places I travel and lecture, I go to a lot of kind of medical freedom conferences.
00:29:59.000 So many people come up to me.
00:30:01.000 They are terrified of going to their doctor.
00:30:03.000 They don't want to go back to their primary care provider who's literally going to tell them to get the latest
00:30:07.000 booster, which has no scientific or safety evidence for that.
00:30:12.000 And so they don't trust physicians.
00:30:14.000 And I would say I feel bad for them, because I think they're very scared.
00:30:18.000 They feel like they can't get to those physicians who are--
00:30:20.000 awake and aware and is going to do fully informed consent and support them by educating them,
00:30:26.000 having that mutual collaborative debate or exchange about things instead of these monolithic
00:30:30.000 – passing on these recommendations from these corrupt agencies.
00:30:36.000 I don't think that's bad.
00:30:37.000 I think that's a start of something new.
00:30:38.000 The more people are awake and aware that the system is rotten and has been captured, the
00:30:43.000 more I think we have an ability to start building a new one or a parallel one.
00:30:47.000 I will say that's what my organization, the FLCC, is trying to do.
00:30:51.000 We're trying to be a source for a… Objective, conflict of interest-free guidance on any number of areas of health.
00:30:58.000 We're not just, you know, addressing COVID.
00:31:00.000 We're actually addressing treatments for cancer, repurposed drugs for cancer, depression, diabetes, health.
00:31:07.000 And so we're hoping that that's going to start a movement towards people getting better information and taking better care of themselves.
00:31:16.000 In a real free society people will be able to appoint your board as the board that guides their medical well-being as opposed to corrupt organizations that are proven to take money whether in the form of royalties or donations or funding like the FDA or NIH.
00:31:37.000 We'd be able to say oh I don't like as if it would be a football team or something you just go I'll go with these dudes because I trust them and I don't think that they are ultimately working for I'll tell you our organization has had incredible amount of support from all around the world.
00:31:51.000 Our protocols, remember that's what we came together as five pulmonary and critical care specialists.
00:31:57.000 We saw the onset of a pulmonary and critical care disease enveloping the world and we built our first protocol in March of 2020 addressing the hospital.
00:32:06.000 Is pulmonary a relationship between heart and lungs?
00:32:08.000 Is that what that means?
00:32:08.000 It's the lungs.
00:32:10.000 Cardiology is hard, and pulmonary is... maybe it's respirology, maybe in the UK.
00:32:17.000 I think that's what they call it in Canada.
00:32:18.000 But pulmonary is what we call it.
00:32:20.000 And critical care is ICU medicine.
00:32:22.000 I'm an expert at dealing with life-threatening illness in the intensive care unit, and both of those were true with COVID.
00:32:29.000 And we came together, and all we sought to do is put together the most effective treatment protocols.
00:32:34.000 And I'll tell you, our first protocol did great in the ICU.
00:32:37.000 What was it?
00:32:39.000 We called it Math Plus.
00:32:40.000 It was centered around the use of methylprednisolone, which was a corticosteroid, which, by the way, I also testified in the Senate in May of 2020 about the critical need for corticosteroids.
00:32:51.000 And I did that at a time when every national and international health care organization was saying not to use it.
00:32:56.000 And after I gave that recommendation in a Senate hearing, I was harassed by my university.
00:33:01.000 They did not want me to talk to the press anymore.
00:33:03.000 I was accused of malpractice, of killing people.
00:33:05.000 And just want to record reflect, two months later, it became the standard of care worldwide.
00:33:10.000 So our early identification for the need of corticosteroids was correct, as was ivermectin.
00:33:17.000 But at that time, we also had ascorbic acid, which is vitamin C. So we had high dose IV vitamin C.
00:33:22.000 We had another important vitamin called thiamine, which we gave intravenously, and then heparin, which is a blood thinner.
00:33:27.000 So we had the anti-inflammatory components and the anti-cladding components very early on, and we saw patients do very well if they were treated early enough.
00:33:36.000 And we tried to put that out in media, but everywhere we went, nobody wanted to talk about a protocol unless we did a randomized controlled trial first.
00:33:44.000 That's science today.
00:33:45.000 The culture must have somehow been thirsty for the edicts that were so blindly accepted.
00:33:54.000 There must have been some open wound for people to so willingly accept the mandates, I don't mean just in terms of vaccine mandates, but the sort of mandated ideology.
00:34:08.000 It was extraordinary that people were so willing to foreclose on simple discourse and simple discussion to apply what would previously have been regarded as evangelical and religious mindsets to the antithetical subject of science, which is meant to be, this is not conjecture, this is not belief, This is empiricism.
00:34:33.000 We have measured.
00:34:35.000 We have trialled.
00:34:36.000 We have reviewed and analysed.
00:34:40.000 That process ought be uncorruptible.
00:34:43.000 Of course, as you have described in your Vitamin D example, if there are financial interests or interests of dominion, control and power behind this process of empiricism, what will be established is a method for conducting trials that have predetermined outcomes.
00:35:02.000 Wait a second, Russell, you didn't read the Disinformation Playbook yet, but the definition, one of the definitions of the fake is actually conducting trials with predetermined results, and they are expert at that, and I detail all of the ways in which they did that in Ivermectin.
00:35:17.000 Now, Ivermectin has a hundred controlled trials, but I have a chapter in my book called The Big Six.
00:35:22.000 It was really six trials that turned everything.
00:35:25.000 They were large trials funded by big national health agencies, And the brazenness with the misconduct and manipulations of those trials just to try to show that ivermectin didn't work.
00:35:38.000 They all succeeded at obtaining a non-statistically significant benefit.
00:35:42.000 They all concluded that ivermectin shouldn't be used.
00:35:45.000 But if you look at all the other trials besides those six, which are a hundred, and you mass all the data together, you find incredible large magnitude reductions in everything.
00:35:54.000 Death, hospitalization, time to recovery.
00:35:57.000 This whole thing of ivermectin, it was a disinformation tactic using trials with predetermined results published in the highest impact journals in the world.
00:36:08.000 The trials were so poorly conducted, there was so much fraud that was brazenly obvious from their methods, but yet they sailed to publication in those journals.
00:36:15.000 And that's really where I'm not the same physician anymore.
00:36:19.000 I'm completely estranged from medicine because now I'm aware of the deep level of corruption, We have been cast into a kind of desert, those of us that have experienced this, and you do not come out of that desert the same man.
00:36:38.000 A different man comes out.
00:36:39.000 After you've experienced these tactics, After you have been the subject of these powers, after you have awakened to the righteousness in not trusting corporatized science, not trusting legacy media, not trusting the co-opted state judiciary or any of its tools of power and control.
00:37:01.000 In a sense you have to call upon something else to support you.
00:37:04.000 What are your views?
00:37:07.000 It's my new network of colleagues and lay people that we've come together.
00:37:13.000 We understand these things that you just listed, and we're looking for a better way.
00:37:18.000 We want to stay positive, open, honest, transparent, debate, and I got to tell you, I love my life now.
00:37:24.000 I'd say the journey from my old life to this one was really rocky.
00:37:27.000 My academic career, which was a pretty celebrated career, ended and that was pretty rough for me.
00:37:31.000 But I like where I've landed.
00:37:33.000 I've landed with just the best group of people.
00:37:37.000 Awake, critical thinkers who are trying to do the right thing.
00:37:40.000 We're trying to help those that We've left behind.
00:37:43.000 I don't know if left behind is the right one, but those who are still, I think, a little too trusting of a lot of institutions that are lying to them, and I feel bad for them.
00:37:52.000 I want to protect them.
00:37:53.000 That's what I'm trying to do here.
00:37:54.000 I was a medical educator all my life.
00:37:56.000 I'm trying to do the same, but now I'm doing it in society rather than in the bowels of a hospital or in a lecture hall in a medical school.
00:38:05.000 Yeah, because this is what's necessary.
00:38:07.000 Perhaps we will see that amidst the obvious corruption of this pandemic period, there was a kind of avatar at work.
00:38:13.000 A force that needed various agents to act on its behalf, ensuring that precisely what you're describing takes place.
00:38:22.000 That which was esoteric becomes exoteric.
00:38:25.000 That which was inaccessible becomes plainly understood.
00:38:28.000 That which was concealed becomes revealed.
00:38:30.000 That sounds really like a mission.
00:38:33.000 I really think our numbers are growing, and you know, like my friend Del Bigtree says, we are winning.
00:38:38.000 He's been in this fight to bring out truth on various aspects of medicines and vaccines for many years, and he's never seen a time like this.
00:38:46.000 I mean, the amount of people who've come into the fold who are aware and are continuing to fight to get these truths out is truly remarkable, and I've got to tell you, it's inspiring.
00:38:54.000 Yeah, it's exciting.
00:38:55.000 Thank you so much for writing this book.
00:38:57.000 We want to learn more about the FLCCC Alliance.
00:39:01.000 Let's do a post about that so we can learn more about it.
00:39:04.000 I presume there's a sort of a website where people can... FLCCC.net.
00:39:09.000 Excellent.
00:39:09.000 We'll learn more about that.
00:39:10.000 Thank you so much for your fantastic work.
00:39:11.000 It's such a pleasure to meet you.
00:39:13.000 As you were talking, I was like, oh yeah, I see those hearings on the telly!
00:39:15.000 I'll start to get excited about it.
00:39:16.000 Visibly, you'll be able to spot the moment.