Stay Free - Russel Brand - Dr Rhonda Patrick (Dealing With Depression)

00:00:00.000 Hello there, you 1 million Awakening Wonders.

00:00:03.000 1 million on Rumble now, Gareth.

00:00:05.000 Can you believe it?

00:00:06.000 1 million Awakening Wonders here on Rumble.

00:00:08.000 Thank you for joining us.

00:00:09.000 And if you're one of the 6.3 million on YouTube, the whole show will only be available on Rumble.

00:00:14.000 And populism is one of the things we are discussing today.

00:00:17.000 How come every time a popular movement emerges, it is discredited?

00:00:23.000 What is this tendency towards divide and conquer?

00:00:27.000 The whole show will be available on Rumble for the first 15-20 minutes or so.

00:00:30.000 We'll be there on YouTube.

00:00:31.000 Give you a little taste.

00:00:33.000 See if you like it.

00:00:34.000 See if you want to join the Rumble revolution.

00:00:36.000 Well, that's right.

00:00:36.000 Tease, aren't you?

00:00:38.000 We tease you with restricted speech and then we reward you with the sweet taste of free speech.

00:00:45.000 Talking about Trump, talking about populism, anti-populism.

00:00:48.000 We're talking to Stella Assange.

00:00:50.000 She's coming in on here to talk about Julian Assange and why everyone is talking about Julian Assange again.

00:00:55.000 And when I say everyone, I mean independent thinkers, independent journalists, people that are interested in freedom, freedom of speech, freedom of information.

00:01:03.000 Why has Julian Assange's name suddenly returned to the lips of people interested in freedom, and why won't the mainstream discuss him?

00:01:09.000 Also, we've got Dr... Well... What?

00:01:11.000 One person will.

00:01:12.000 Who's that? 0.98

00:01:13.000 Oh, Tucker, the old racist. 0.98

00:01:13.000 Tucker. 0.98

00:01:15.000 Dr... That's a joke.

00:01:17.000 Dr Rhonda Patrick will be on the show as well, and she's talking about the benefits of heat, sweet heat, and cold.

00:01:26.000 On our deep dive look at the news, we will be talking about Raccoon Dog.

00:01:30.000 Raccoon Dog, was it you?

00:01:32.000 Did you pandemic us so hard we couldn't go out of our houses?

00:01:36.000 Did you pandemic us right in the small business?

00:01:39.000 Did you pandemic us, Raccoon Dog, right in the wealth transfer?

00:01:43.000 We're also going to look at that fantastic meet and greet moment where you see what happens when the highest paid public servant in the world meets the public.

00:01:54.000 It don't go well.

00:01:56.000 And also, when an accredited scientist has a conversation about science with an ordinary member of the public, it's extraordinary to see.

00:02:03.000 This is one of my favourite things I've seen for a long while.

00:02:05.000 But we're going to start now with our other hero of the pandemic, Boris Johnson, who during the pandemic was partying like it was...

00:02:15.000 2019 still, the early part of it.

00:02:18.000 Of course, Boris Johnson famously claimed that he didn't go to any parties.

00:02:22.000 Then when pressed, he said he did go to some parties, but when he was at them, he didn't know that they were parties that he was at.

00:02:28.000 Now his most senior advisor has revealed that he must have known that he was at a party.

00:02:34.000 Johnson knew Garden Event was a party because I told him, said Dominic Cummings.

00:02:39.000 And if you can't relate to that because you're an American person, don't feel left out because Gavin Newsom was also caught without a mask, a maskless party, although you know those guys go to parties with masks as well.

00:02:51.000 Eyes wide shut.

00:02:52.000 The Illuminati, yo!

00:02:54.000 I'm joking while we're still on YouTube.

00:02:56.000 Once we get over to Rumble, we'll start talking about secret societies, won't we?

00:03:00.000 By Jove, we shall.

00:03:02.000 It's interesting because all of these members of elite organisations, old Etonians posing in government, Gavin Newsom partying without a mask while telling you that you have to do that, are still benefiting from their Inside Connections.

00:03:18.000 Gavin Newsom recently applauded the response to the Silicon Valley bank collapse, saying, you know, that's the right thing to do, without revealing the quarter of a million dollars in there.

00:03:30.000 Isn't that extraordinary?

00:03:31.000 Isn't that just like an establishment figure to praise the actions of the government, claiming he supports their ideals, in this case when he is literally Financially invested in the venture, at least three of the California governor's wine companies are held by SVB and a bank president sits on the board of his wife's charity.

00:03:50.000 California Governor Gavin Newsom praised the Biden administration's decision to intervene on behalf of Silicon Valley bank clients.

00:03:57.000 He didn't reveal that they held $250,000 in deposits in that same bank.

00:04:21.000 He likes the bathtub gin.

00:04:23.000 It's another case of do as I say, not as I do.

00:04:26.000 If you're not a member of our locals community yet, join it right now.

00:04:29.000 Then you can communicate and participate in this conversation because what we believe is that a new movement is being born before our very eyes.

00:04:38.000 As we all witness the end of the old order, as we witness the establishment floundering,

00:04:43.000 unable now to control our ability to communicate, doubling down on smearing dissenters, surveillance

00:04:49.000 and censorship, there is a new populism emerging.

00:04:53.000 Donald Trump, of course, is one of the figures of populism who many people disagree with

00:04:58.000 on many, many issues.

00:04:59.000 But I know loads of you love him and he's still awaiting arrest.

00:05:03.000 That goes on.

00:05:04.000 He represents a certain type of energy and an emergent new political force that may yet be part of the solution, not part of the problem.

00:05:13.000 Because if you look now for a moment, To politics in the Netherlands, the politics of Holland, the farm protest movement has just won parliamentary seats.

00:05:22.000 Like the farm protests that we've talked about a lot on this show with Vandana Shiva, we've talked about the farm protests in Sri Lanka, the farm protests in India.

00:05:30.000 The emergent soil movement, and the reason we're interested in this is precisely because it is a response to globalism that is truly global, that cannot be dismissed as racism, but that will not stop the mainstream media trying to condemn it as somehow right-wing and racist.

00:05:46.000 In fact, even with The Guardian reporting on this story, don't they say, yeah, has won the support of far-right populist parties?

00:05:54.000 Look, they attempt to smear it.

00:05:55.000 There's been, in the recent election, Let me just read from the Guardian's text.

00:06:00.000 A new populist party surfing a wave of rural anger.

00:06:03.000 A horrible wave.

00:06:04.000 There'll be manure, spit, there'll be all sorts of things in a wave of rural anger that you wouldn't want to surf on.

00:06:10.000 Government environmental policies has emerged as the big winner in Dutch provincial elections.

00:06:14.000 With almost 90% of the votes, the BBB is now the biggest bloc in the Senate.

00:06:19.000 Now, as well as reporting on it, the Guardian, mainstream media, of course, don't miss the opportunity to smear this populist movement because they think they're better than you.

00:06:27.000 Because they think they're cleverer than you, that they think that they need to parent you through politics, to guide you with instruction, haughtiness and condemnation, rather than be part of a conversation, which is what we believe.

00:06:38.000 We believe that you will teach us, that we'll tell you our version of the truth, you'll respond to it, and together we'll be in a dialogue with the possibility of redemption, forgiveness, With the possibility of altering our opinion, amending, adapting, finding new relationships.

00:06:52.000 But that's not the way they go in the mainstream.

00:06:54.000 The BBB, which has won the support of far right and populist parties internationally, claims the problem has been exaggerated.

00:07:00.000 So there you go.

00:07:01.000 I mean, it's just for me, it seems like what they do, first of all, is look for a reason to shut down populism and then bolt it on to any movement.

00:07:08.000 It's not as if it's come from nowhere, is it, Russ?

00:07:10.000 I mean, the Dutch government, this was in response to, and the catalyst for this was the Dutch government offering to buy up, and this was through forced buyouts, 3,000 farms.

00:07:19.000 And so obviously there's a big movement that's been spawned from this.

00:07:21.000 But even in the research that we've done, because obviously they're saying that these are big polluter problems, I think they call them peak polluter farms.

00:07:27.000 But just in the research from mainstream media, you find the richest 1% of the global population use two times as much carbon as the poorest 50% over the last 25 years.

00:07:36.000 In terms of the energy companies, recently they've all made record profits in 2022 and 2023.

00:07:41.000 ExxonMobil, Shell, BP and Chevron are all identified as among the highest emitting investor-owned companies since 1988.

00:07:47.000 And they still receive subsidies and they never come for elite interest.

00:07:52.000 They always come for popular interest.

00:07:54.000 Populare interest.

00:07:56.000 The interests of the people.

00:07:58.000 Even when condemning in particular the type of fertilizer and stuff that these Dutch farmers are using, which may be environmentally harmful, Bill Gates, who's a king of climate change as well as international king of medicine, I believe elsewhere in his format and within his portfolio, literally uses the same fertilizers that the Dutch farmers are being penalized for using.

00:08:23.000 Is that true?

00:08:23.000 Yeah, so this is from U.S.

00:08:24.000 Right to Know.

00:08:25.000 We've actually spoken to them.

00:08:26.000 They're brilliant, do amazing investigations.

00:08:28.000 So in his book, How to Avoid a Climate Disaster, Gates discussed his plans to model African food system upon India's Green Revolution, which moves farmers towards ever larger and less diverse farming operations that rely on pesticides and climate-harming chemical fertilizers.

00:08:42.000 This is something he's been promoting in Africa for the last 15 years, which has not gone down too well with a lot of the people in Africa.

00:08:48.000 But, you know, it's one rule for one and one rule for, evidently, these farmers in Netherlands.

00:08:52.000 When Bill Gates uses that fertilizer, it knows that Bill Gates is behind it, and it immediately causes a lot less climate change.

00:08:59.000 But when it's a Dutch farmer, or a Sri Lankan farmer, or an Indian farmer, or a farmer somewhere on the continent of Africa, they bungle it.

00:09:08.000 Do you see what I mean?

00:09:09.000 The reason is they think they're better than us.

00:09:11.000 They think they're cleverer.

00:09:12.000 They think that we don't understand.

00:09:14.000 They think our traditions, our heritage, our new alliances, our ability to accept difference, our ability to come together with new alliances is an impossibility.

00:09:22.000 You're not like them.

00:09:24.000 You're not clever like they are.

00:09:25.000 Hit me up right now in the comments with examples from your own life of this haughtiness, this superciliousness, this ongoing patronising condemnation that rains down from on high.

00:09:36.000 We've got so many examples of this.

00:09:40.000 An example that I'm just longing to share is the clip that's gone viral.

00:09:43.000 I just want to have a look at the first bit of it.

00:09:45.000 You've already seen by now, because let's face it, it's mostly you that educate us on this stuff.

00:09:48.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:09:50.000 It's mostly you that educates us on this stuff.

00:09:52.000 Like the moment where Fauci confronts an ordinary family about the facts of the pandemic.

00:10:00.000 And this is so heartening for me to watch.

00:10:02.000 To see an ordinary person convey their concerns, which have subsequently proven to be legitimate and demonstrable.

00:10:11.000 Provable!

00:10:12.000 We'll go into greater depth on this story when we're no longer on YouTube.

00:10:15.000 In a few minutes, I mean.

00:10:17.000 Because there are some things that we're going to say that are now empirically demonstrable that are still against, unbelievably, against the guidelines.

00:10:24.000 But you're going to love watching this.

00:10:26.000 Let's have a look at that clip right now.

00:10:28.000 I heard that it doesn't cure it and it doesn't stop you from getting it.

00:10:37.000 Already, if you think of the narrative, remember for a moment Don Lemon saying you should shame the unvaccinated, you should shame them. 1.00

00:10:48.000 Leave them behind is Leave them behind.

00:10:51.000 It's astonishing, isn't it?

00:10:53.000 And Fauci's about to say, on the very rare occasions, we now know... On YouTube.

00:10:57.000 YouTube.

00:10:59.000 Can't say it yet.

00:11:00.000 Yes, that's why you've got to join us on Rumble.

00:11:01.000 The link's in the description, because what we've got... Do you know, you're going to love this.

00:11:05.000 Every single moment in this exchange, our team, our diligent, hard-working and brilliant team back there, have found a scientific study from legit sources, like the British Medical Journal, those Conspiracy theorists over at the Lancet and Johns Hopkins University that prove that everything that that woman and her partner or whoever the other person in the house was, I don't want to make any assumptions what goes on in that household, everything they say is scientifically true.

00:11:32.000 Everything Fauci says is wrong.

00:11:34.000 That's not me saying that.

00:11:36.000 It's follow the science, but inconveniently, science that supports the rights of the people, not science that can be used to double down on establishment centralised power.

00:11:46.000 Let's give Fauci another few moments in the sun, though.

00:11:49.000 Although he would never admit that the sun's good for you because they can't sell you that.

00:11:53.000 Yeah, let us know in the comments!

00:12:04.000 He's busking at that point, isn't he?

00:12:05.000 You know, there's some vaccine, you won't even know you've taken it, except there'll be a spring in your step and you might feel a fluttering in your heart.

00:12:12.000 30% more like, hey, join us on Rumble in a moment or so.

00:12:18.000 Because I suppose what we're talking about more broadly, the theme of this show, before we get to Stella Assange, partner of Julian Assange, of course, is why is it that there's so much divide and conquer?

00:12:27.000 Why is it that there's so much condemnation?

00:12:30.000 I mean, you've got to see how the Dutch news reported on the victory of this Dutch farmer movement.

00:12:36.000 Even though when they're talking about unbridled joy, listen to the level of enthusiasm mustered up by the mainstream media reporter.

00:12:44.000 Have a listen now.

00:12:46.000 Unbridled joy for Caroline van der Plas.

00:12:50.000 Unbridled joy.

00:12:52.000 Like when I was making love last night.

00:12:55.000 Do it more, do it more.

00:12:57.000 I'm on the brink.

00:12:58.000 Not yet, not yet.

00:13:00.000 Relax, don't do it.

00:13:02.000 As her party shook up the Dutch political landscape on Wednesday evening.

00:13:06.000 Founded just four years ago, the BBB is now projected to be the largest party in the Senate.

00:13:12.000 Obviously, this issue has to be drained of all enthusiasm because issues like this, a movement like this, is precisely what can change the world.

00:13:23.000 Don't let them tell you it's not possible to change the world.

00:13:25.000 Don't let them tell you it's not possible to change your own life.

00:13:27.000 Don't let them tell you new systems ain't possible.

00:13:29.000 They rely on us losing our ability to imagine new worlds.

00:13:33.000 They rely on us losing our spirit, darkening us down.

00:13:36.000 That's why they're promoting bad food. 0.98

00:13:38.000 That's why they're promoting dumb stuff on your screen. 0.99

00:13:41.000 Yeah, he resents it, doesn't he? 0.98

00:13:43.000 Resents having to deliver that.

00:13:44.000 I don't like having to give you this news, but it turns out that ordinary people won't just do as they're told.

00:13:50.000 Look at her nail varnish, it's garish and vulgar. 1.00

00:13:53.000 She shouldn't be wearing green.

00:13:55.000 Green fingers and thumbs in the agricultural world.

00:13:58.000 Not like this, not on your Nelly.

00:14:01.000 I'm going now, home to my house to make love.

00:14:05.000 I'm now going to move elegantly from that quote and that rather puerile bit of tomfoolery to a quote from Immanuel Kant on the idea of divide and conquer.

00:14:17.000 In Perpetual Peace, a philosophical sketch by Kant, Appendix One, divide et impera, is the third of three political maxims, the others being fac et excusa, act now, make excuses later, we see that in the political realm, and si fascisti nega, if you commit a crime, deny it.

00:14:33.000 Kant refers to this tactic in Appendix One of his Perpetual Peace when describing the traits of political moralists, divide and conquer, keep people divided, promote difference in the culture, promote the idea that we're different from one another, that we have different interests, That you could never get on with a person who's wearing a baseball cap like that.

00:14:50.000 You could never get on with a person who's using a pronoun like that. 1.00

00:14:53.000 When ultimately you have more in common, we have more in common, with one another than we could ever have in common with the rarefied small group of elite institutions and individuals that ultimately determine the global agenda.

00:15:06.000 Some Indian historians, this is how it is in practice, such as politician, I hope I'm saying this right, Shashi Tharoor, assert that the British Raj frequently used this tactic.

00:15:16.000 of Divide and Conquer to consolidate their rule and prevent the emergence of the Indian independence movement, citing Lord Elphinstone, who said that the Dividate Empire was the old Roman maxim and it should be ours.

00:15:28.000 And of course, we mention this now to show our largely American audience that we, the British, acknowledge that many of the bad ideas that are currently being used by the American corporatist regime were invented by the British corporatist colonial imperialist regime.

00:15:45.000 It's interesting with the farmers and like coming back to where we just came from with this, the kind of dismissive attitude of populist parties.

00:15:52.000 And I know even in The Guardian, the kind of reporting of it saying that how fickle it is, the kind of support of populist parties.

00:15:59.000 But when it relates to farmers and food, I mean, what could be more popular than food?

00:16:04.000 Like we all eat it.

00:16:05.000 Like if we if we lose these farmers and we lose these farms and abilities to, you know, eat food, I think that is worthy of being a populist movement.

00:16:14.000 Food is popular, because if you don't eat none, you're gonna die.

00:16:18.000 And they always attempt to ally these ideas with, I think, notions and schematics that we all acknowledge are wrong.

00:16:27.000 Misogyny is wrong, antisemitism is wrong, racism is Wrong.

00:16:31.000 We should be looking to forge alliances that are not based on our cultural identity.

00:16:35.000 We should accept people's right to identify culturally in diverse and wonderful ways, whether that's traditional, old school, Christian, 2.4 kids or progressive.

00:16:46.000 We should say, that's up to you.

00:16:47.000 These are the conversations I'm interested in having.

00:16:49.000 We've got to move beyond them.

00:16:50.000 Like in our conversation with Glenn Greenwald the other day, once we've established a meaningful system of actual democracy, once we've got systems where we can control our resources and be individually free, then we can have a conversation about, hey, how do you prefer this?

00:17:03.000 And are we going to leave each other alone?

00:17:06.000 We don't want a centralised authority, corporate or state, involved in these aspects of our life.

00:17:12.000 We want as much freedom as possible, not as little.

00:17:16.000 Gareth, do you think it's time for us to Skip over to being exclusively available.

00:17:20.000 I would say so.

00:17:21.000 I'm really determined to show because as well as everything else, as well as being almost a kind of new Rosetta Stone for many of the deceptive tactics deployed during the pandemic period, many of the errors made, much of the misreporting, the censorship, the opportunity to surveil, it demonstrates in real time too the Attitude that undergirded it, one of supremacy, one of domination, one of condescending, of speaking down to people parentally and it entirely backfires because the family being addressed to a conveniently a family of colour are able to sort of intuitively, instinctively or as a result of education, plainly in some of the arguments, rebut everything that Fauci is saying to in the end Fauci and his crew just walk off

00:18:08.000 Weary and exhausted.

00:18:10.000 I don't know why they're so tired.

00:18:11.000 I mean, I don't know what could have contributed to that.

00:18:13.000 We're going to come off YouTube now.

00:18:15.000 We're going to be exclusively on Rumble.

00:18:16.000 There's a link in the description.

00:18:17.000 Remember, we're talking to Stella Assange in a minute as well.

00:18:19.000 So join us on the other side, on the side of righteousness, inclusivity, absolute acceptance of diversity, end of all hatred, inclusivity and love.

00:18:28.000 Love!

00:18:29.000 Let love be our rule.

00:18:30.000 See you on the other side.

00:18:31.000 Let's have a look at this clip together now.

00:18:34.000 This is a brilliant piece of research because every single word, starting from the get-go, we have rebutted and refuted with actual facts.

00:18:42.000 Let's go.

00:18:43.000 You're going to enjoy this.

00:18:44.000 This is the Fauci versus the public follow the science breakdown.

00:18:49.000 Let's go.

00:18:49.000 What are we going to do about those other states?

00:18:52.000 Oh my god.

00:18:53.000 They're going to keep the outbreak smouldering in the country.

00:18:57.000 It's so crazy.

00:18:58.000 I mean, they're not doing it because they say they don't want to do it.

00:19:02.000 They're Republicans, they don't like to be told what to do.

00:19:06.000 Okay, so you heard that.

00:19:08.000 Anthony Fauci wants to put Covid's politicisation behind him.

00:19:11.000 That's Politico in 2022.

00:19:13.000 As if the politicisation was being done by someone else.

00:19:16.000 Not him, then, on camera.

00:19:19.000 And we've got to break that, you know, unpack that.

00:19:22.000 How you guys doing with vaccine?

00:19:23.000 Oh, I haven't gotten it yet.

00:19:25.000 I'm waiting for them to be able to.

00:19:27.000 Oh, you should get it.

00:19:29.000 Remember Don Lemon saying, leave them behind.

00:19:31.000 They should be ashamed.

00:19:32.000 Just remember that.

00:19:34.000 First.

00:19:35.000 There they are.

00:19:36.000 That's them.

00:19:36.000 That's the them they want to leave behind.

00:19:39.000 Okay, that way you won't give it to them.

00:19:41.000 Oh, I thought I would give it to them if I get it.

00:19:44.000 No, no, not at all.

00:19:46.000 In fact, we got to get you vaccinated so that if you were to get infected, you could pass it on to them.

00:19:51.000 So you're actually protecting your family by getting them vaccinated.

00:19:55.000 Jabs do not reduce the risk of passing COVID within households. 1.00

00:19:59.000 Studies suggest research reveals fully vaccinated people are just as likely to pass the virus on to those they share a home with as unvaccinated people.

00:20:07.000 And that's from those conspiracy theorists over at The Guardian.

00:20:11.000 Well, I heard that it doesn't cure it and it doesn't stop you from getting it.

00:20:11.000 No, dear.

00:20:19.000 No.

00:20:20.000 This point is empirically demonstrably correct before we let Fauci...

00:20:27.000 On the very, very, very rare chance that you do get it, even if you're vaccinated, it's a very... you don't even feel sick.

00:20:32.000 their tax dollars. That's true. There's no evidence that any of the current COVID-19

00:20:38.000 vaccines can stop people from being infected. That's from those conspiracy theorists over

00:20:43.000 at the BBC in 2021. Too little, too late. On the very, very, very rare chance that you

00:20:51.000 do get it, even if you're vaccinated, it's a very, you don't even feel sick. It's like

00:20:55.000 you don't even. 27,673 vaccinated people died from COVID in England between

00:21:02.000 January the 22nd and December the 22nd.

00:21:04.000 That's from the Office for National Statistics and you know they got skin in the game.

00:21:08.000 I know you got infected.

00:21:11.000 Okay and now for our second clip, yeah we can roll right over to that guys.

00:21:16.000 People in America are not settled with the information that's been given to us right now.

00:21:21.000 So I'm not going to be lining up taking a shot on a vaccination for something that wasn't clear in the first place and then you all create a shot Well let's check that.

00:21:39.000 A typical vaccine development timeline takes 5-10 years and sometimes longer to assess whether the vaccine is safe and efficacious in clinical trials.

00:21:47.000 That's from those fringe lunatics at Infowars, no sorry not Infowars, John Hopkins University in 2021.

00:21:54.000 Well it used to take years.

00:21:58.000 You know how many years we've invested in this approach?

00:22:02.000 About 20 years.

00:22:03.000 Fauci's even rubbing his arm there, the sight of vaccine.

00:22:07.000 Sorry, it seems like the spike protein might be migrating to my... Oh no, here it goes!

00:22:13.000 Okay, let's check that one.

00:22:15.000 Fully vaccinated individuals with breakthrough infections have peak viral loads similar to unvaccinated cases.

00:22:21.000 That's from the Lancet in 2021.

00:22:22.000 with. The only reason I'm talking to you right now as close as we are is that I've been vaccinated.

00:22:27.000 Right. Okay let's check that one. Fully vaccinated individuals with breakthrough infections have

00:22:31.000 peak viral loads similar to unvaccinated cases. That's from the Lancet in 2021. In other words,

00:22:37.000 doesn't make very much difference. But if it allowed thousands of people like you don't

00:22:41.000 get vaccinated, you're going to let this virus continue to percolate in this country and in this

00:22:46.000 Something like the common flu then, right?

00:22:49.000 Who is this guy, by the way, who accidentally knocks her?

00:22:52.000 Okay, let's go do some propaganda.

00:22:55.000 Oh no!

00:22:56.000 Who's door have they knocked on?

00:22:57.000 This geezer understands, like, overstating of deaths.

00:23:00.000 He seems to understand myocarditis, the comparison to the flu that later becomes popularized.

00:23:06.000 He's, like, inadvertently knocked on the wrong door.

00:23:10.000 Okay, let's go knock on the next door.

00:23:12.000 Hello, I'm Dr. Robert Malone.

00:23:14.000 Oh no!

00:23:15.000 What about the next door?

00:23:16.000 Hello, I produce the Joe Rogan Show.

00:23:19.000 Oh no!

00:23:20.000 What is this street?

00:23:22.000 It's much more serious than the flu.

00:23:24.000 Well the flu killed a lot of people.

00:23:25.000 You know how many people died of... Essentially what's heartening about this is it reassures you that ordinary people have a reasonable understanding of the world.

00:23:35.000 Of course we're not saying that there isn't such a thing as expertise, ingenuity, study.

00:23:39.000 What we're saying now and have always said is that this issue was revealing because it shows that when there is a convergence of interests and a particular momentum An agenda almost automatically appeared.

00:23:50.000 Where facts were denied, certain voices were cut out of the conversation, people were condemned and then not really apologized to.

00:23:57.000 The counterpoint to all of this, and the bright side of all of this, is that ordinary people ain't stupid.

00:24:03.000 That's good because, to a degree, we're all ordinary people.

00:24:07.000 We can make decisions for ourselves, informed decisions.

00:24:10.000 We can make choices.

00:24:11.000 And I think this reveals to us the degree to which propaganda and authoritarianism has taken hold of our culture that you're not allowed to question.

00:24:19.000 The presumptuousness of Fauci knocking on that door, assuming that he's just going to blast people to the wall with facts when the facts aren't on his side at all.

00:24:30.000 Yeah, no, I think it's really important.

00:24:32.000 And just to kind of come back to like Don Lemon's point and a lot of the kind of attitude of the mainstream media, and of course, like comments from Biden and the pandemic of them vaccinated.

00:24:39.000 But this poll from the Kaiser Family Foundation in 2021 said unvaccinated adults cite a variety of reasons why they've not gotten a COVID-19 vaccine, with half citing worries about side effects and 38% saying that the reasons include not trusting the government.

00:24:56.000 And in the situation where, you know, we're watching Fauci interacting with members of the public, you can well see why people wouldn't trust the government, why they might have had historical reasons for not trusting the government.

00:25:06.000 And then when it gets to something like this, where they're told, if you don't take this, you are letting down half the population.

00:25:11.000 You are the reason why this pandemic continues.

00:25:13.000 And then you find out, oh, that wasn't the truth.

00:25:16.000 Then where's that trust going to go?

00:25:18.000 It's not going to get better, is it?

00:25:19.000 And astonishingly, we've not seen any kind of mea culpa, any kind of apology, any kind of amendment.

00:25:25.000 We've not seen Biden or Fauci or any meaningful public figures say, oh, we were wrong about that.

00:25:31.000 We better amend it.

00:25:32.000 We're so sorry about that condemnation.

00:25:33.000 I don't know what happened to them 34,000 nurses booed out of their jobs in New York City. 1.00

00:25:38.000 And in fact, part of the reason that we're willing to form new relationships with people

00:25:42.000 from different traditional political backgrounds, speaking for myself, like Tucker Carlson,

00:25:47.000 is because Tucker Carlson's turning up on podcasts right now saying, I was wrong about

00:25:51.000 how I reported on the Iraq war.

00:25:54.000 I feel ashamed that I participated in that propaganda.

00:25:57.000 CNN ain't doing that.

00:25:58.000 MSNBC ain't doing that. 1.00

00:26:00.000 And Tucker Carlson, off Fox News, for now, who knows where that guy's going, will at

00:26:05.000 least own his own errors.

00:26:08.000 This is what, you know, I'd like to see Fauci go back around now and say, sorry, you were

00:26:12.000 right, I was wrong.

00:26:13.000 Do you want to make a documentary about me?

00:26:15.000 And in fact, do you want my job?

00:26:17.000 There's some interesting royalty schematics you might be interested in, my man.

00:26:21.000 Let's have a look at the rest of this and decry it point by point for as long as you're

00:26:26.000 Okay, Fauci's obviously about, say, 600,000.

00:26:28.000 But Dr. Liana Nguyen writes in the Washington Post that the medical communities overcount in the amount of COVID deaths and hospitalizations.

00:26:33.000 People have died from COVID-19 in the United States.

00:26:36.000 Okay, Fauci's obviously about say 600,000, but Dr. Liana Nguyen writes in the Washington Post

00:26:41.000 that the medical communities overcount in the amount of COVID deaths and hospitalizations.

00:26:45.000 She writes, are these Americans dying from COVID or with COVID? Which if you've been part of this

00:26:50.000 conversation for a while, if you've been part of our audience for a while, is a distinction

00:26:54.000 that you're more familiar with.

00:26:55.000 In fact, it's a distinction that you taught us.

00:26:58.000 You explained to us here.

00:26:59.000 We took it on board.

00:27:00.000 We included it in our reporting.

00:27:02.000 And that's how media should behave.

00:27:05.000 That's the kind of authority that we should have.

00:27:07.000 Mutual, shared, democratic authority.

00:27:10.000 consensus achieved through conversation, dialogue, taking on diverse perspectives,

00:27:15.000 respecting individual freedom, and recognizing that the people themselves

00:27:18.000 ultimately have to have control over their own communities and lives.

00:27:22.000 I mean, throughout this video, and I won't penalize you with it,

00:27:25.000 but numerous points are made, and like every single point is either,

00:27:29.000 you can undergird what the fella on the doorstep is saying with a fact, or what Fauci is saying,

00:27:35.000 but with a complete rebuttal.

00:27:37.000 The man said, you're given the number that died, that's your number.

00:27:40.000 The National Centre for Health Statistics uses incoming data to produce provisional COVID-19 death counts.

00:27:46.000 When you start talking about paying people to get vaccinated, when you talk about incentivising people to get vaccinated, there's something going on with that.

00:27:51.000 The incentives, of course, as you remember, included free donuts, fries, entering a lottery.

00:27:56.000 I think there was a strip club involved at some point.

00:27:58.000 Do you remember that?

00:27:59.000 I do not.

00:28:00.000 Sorry, that was just me.

00:28:03.000 Why are you in the strip club?

00:28:05.000 To get a vaccine!

00:28:06.000 That's not a vaccine you're getting in there.

00:28:08.000 Get out of there! 0.65

00:28:10.000 Offering people $25.

00:28:11.000 Anyway, listen, one of the things that is worth mentioning is our health minister at the time, like the person in our country, the UK, charged with that, subsequently went on to be on reality TV and all kinds of crazy stuff after he got busted on CCTV, adjusting what I can only describe as His erection while he was having an affair with someone from another household when we were told that we weren't meant to communicate with anybody else.

00:28:34.000 Some of these WhatsApp messages got leaked and he said stuff like, Matt Hancock's leaked messages suggest plan to frighten the public.

00:28:42.000 Yeah, and that man's part in shot was you're trying to keep people in a state of fear, division, fear, shame, odd emotional tactics to use.

00:28:53.000 If you think about it, controlling your consciousness, controlling your freedom means engaging with your emotional palate.

00:29:00.000 It means reaching deep into your psyche.

00:29:03.000 That is why it's so vital that we have a free press.

00:29:06.000 That is why it's so vital that we are able to be stringently critical of power.

00:29:11.000 That is so Why it is so vital that the case of Julian Assange is looked at in detail.

00:29:16.000 Why is Julian Assange in Belmarsh Prison now, without trial, a maximum security prison, when the stuff that he reported has not been proven to endanger the life of a single American service person, and that's the reason that it's being, that's what legitimizes it currently, while the facts that he reported were simultaneously reported by organizations like the New York Times, The Guardian, The Spiegel, all that top brass, neoliberal propaganda mouthpieces.

00:29:46.000 Why did this happen?

00:29:48.000 Well, we've got Stella Assange, the lawyer and wife of Julian Assange, on the line now to talk about exactly that.

00:29:55.000 Thanks for joining us, Stella.

00:29:56.000 Alright, mate.

00:29:57.000 Hi Russell, how are you doing?

00:29:59.000 Today we feel pretty upbeat and one of the things that I've noticed lately, Stella, is that people are talking about Julian again more.

00:30:06.000 Not in the mainstream media necessarily, but certainly within independent media.

00:30:12.000 Somehow, instinctively, it was the name I reached for when I was on a mainstream media show recently, and I felt like I had to defend having an alternative perspective to the mainstream.

00:30:25.000 Julian Assange's name is a symbol of mainstream media denial of facts and negligence of morality.

00:30:34.000 Why do you think that we're talking about Julian Assange more now?

00:30:37.000 Do you feel more optimistic about his campaign for freedom?

00:30:42.000 I definitely feel more optimistic.

00:30:44.000 I think that people have come to recognise that Julian is a symbol.

00:30:49.000 I don't like the term martyr because no one should be a martyr, right, in a society that calls itself democratic and there are all these rights that we're supposed to uphold and so on.

00:31:01.000 But they understand, they kind of see him mirror themselves, mirrored in him in the way the those in power are treating

00:31:10.000 him with contempt, as if his rights don't matter, as if the truth doesn't

00:31:14.000 matter.

00:31:15.000 And in fact, Julian represents exactly what we should uphold, which is truth,

00:31:20.000 which is treating people with respect, precisely the opposite of propagandizing them, giving them

00:31:30.000 true information so that they can use that information and deploy it as they

00:31:35.000 With WikiLeaks, he brought a kind of democratization of knowledge.

00:31:35.000 want.

00:31:39.000 He put out information that was verified, that was correct, that was official, and that was suppressed.

00:31:46.000 And with suppressed information, you can go to court, you can rebut, as you have just done extensively.

00:31:55.000 The truth is, in the end, all we have.

00:31:57.000 That's the final defence of the powerless.

00:32:04.000 And that's why they're trying to silence him so badly.

00:32:10.000 So much documentation that was revealed, but some headline points include the U.S.

00:32:15.000 Army's manual for Guantanamo prison camp, literally how to run a torture camp that was revealed, including information within the document itself, which said, don't let this fall into the wrong hands.

00:32:25.000 We don't want anyone knowing we're doing this.

00:32:28.000 500,000 messages sent on 9-11, video footage of a U.S.

00:32:31.000 Apache helicopter killing civilians.

00:32:35.000 And I think one of them was a Reuters journalist.

00:32:40.000 Given that these are so evidently stories that are in the public interest, that demonstrate that American foreign policy was violent, egregious, unethical, illegal.

00:32:54.000 What is the argument for keeping Julian Assange in Belmarsh prison right now?

00:33:02.000 What is the argument?

00:33:04.000 Well, in reality, it's just a show of force.

00:33:07.000 Because even when you look at the legal argumentation by the U.S.

00:33:12.000 Department of Justice.

00:33:14.000 It's a farce.

00:33:15.000 Basically, what they're saying is that to receive information from a source, to possess it and to communicate it to the public, even if that information involves evidence of war crimes, evidence of crimes against humanity, as is the case here, then the U.S.

00:33:32.000 government doesn't like it, then they can put you in prison.

00:33:35.000 It's completely absurd, especially coming from the country that prides itself in being 1.00

00:33:40.000 a defender and promoter of press freedom, right?

00:33:44.000 How do they...

00:33:45.000 So what did...

00:33:46.000 Sorry.

00:33:47.000 Oh, excuse me, interrupting you, Stella.

00:33:48.000 I wanted to say, how do they square that with the fact that the revelations were simultaneously

00:33:52.000 made by more established and still operate in mainstream media outlets, such as those

00:33:57.000 I listed, Nobley, New York Times, Guardian, et cetera?

00:33:59.000 How is that distinction legally drawn?

00:34:01.000 Why Julian Assange?

00:34:02.000 Why not anyone from any of those other organizations?

00:34:05.000 Well, they don't.

00:34:06.000 They don't draw any distinction.

00:34:08.000 And that's why, actually, The Washington Post and The New York Times and The Guardian, who have historically seen Julian and WikiLeaks as a rival in the press landscape, they've actually come out to defend him.

00:34:23.000 I mean, obviously, they could do so with more energy and commitment.

00:34:29.000 But, so far, they've basically put their editorials out to be on the right side of history and said that this case is a danger to press freedom, that it sets a terrible precedent, because they have done the analysis, and they understand that what the U.S.

00:34:44.000 government is arguing here is that journalism is a crime, and especially journalism that denounces the state committing crimes.

00:34:53.000 So, naturally, when you think about it, you know, They invoke this kind of secrecy, this almost sacred secrecy.

00:35:08.000 But what is secrecy?

00:35:09.000 When you think about it, secrecy and war, these documents were secret.

00:35:13.000 And what they were, were cover-ups.

00:35:15.000 Because, obviously, if you have a war crime and you decide to cover it up, then you have to stamp it. 0.53

00:35:21.000 A secret stamp on it, and therefore journalists who do serious journalism about national security issues have to have the right to be able to publish the truth, even when that truth is so-called classified, because obviously cover-ups are going to be classified.

00:35:39.000 This Friday, there's a WikiLeaks art exhibition in London that you can attend if you want to, that shows diplomatic cables leaked by Julian.

00:35:50.000 Tell us a bit more about that, Stella, would you?

00:35:53.000 Yes, here in London we're opening, Wikileaks is co-curating an art exhibition with an organization called Apolitical and it's a very exciting project.

00:36:03.000 It has huge artists like Ai Weiwei, the Chinese dissident artist.

00:36:09.000 It has a posthumous piece by Vivienne Westwood.

00:36:12.000 And the piece you're referring to of the U.S.

00:36:16.000 State Department cables, it's part of Cablegate.

00:36:19.000 So Julian faces 175 years in a U.S.

00:36:22.000 prison for publishing true information, right?

00:36:25.000 And 50 of those years concern the State Department cables.

00:36:29.000 And what this exhibition does is it publishes the secret cables out of those.

00:36:36.000 There are 75 volumes.

00:36:37.000 I don't know how many thousands, tens of thousands of cables.

00:36:40.000 physically printed on paper.

00:36:43.000 And so, theoretically, I mean, if you take the U.S.

00:36:47.000 case seriously, which no one should do, I mean, you should take it seriously because it criminalizes the free flow of information and your right to know.

00:36:57.000 But what I'm saying is that there's no legitimacy to their argument that if you read the information, you are, in fact, violating the Espionage Act.

00:37:07.000 And this is a point that this piece is trying to make.

00:37:09.000 In fact, when you read the news, when you read Seymour Hersh or when you read the Snowden documents or reporting about the Snowden documents, what you're doing, in effect, is violating the U.S.

00:37:20.000 Espionage Act, because that is information that the U.S.

00:37:23.000 government says is classified and you're not allowed to know, even when it violates your rights.

00:37:29.000 So that's one piece.

00:37:30.000 There's also going to be a music event on the 8th of April, which has been organized by the Shangri-La group behind the Glastonbury.

00:37:42.000 And then in the United States, we're showing the film Ithaca.

00:37:47.000 Which is about our family's fight to free Julian.

00:37:51.000 Julian's father is the main character, and I'm the other main character.

00:37:56.000 And this documentary is going around the United States.

00:38:01.000 At the moment, it's in Massachusetts.

00:38:03.000 It's going to New York, New Hampshire.

00:38:04.000 It's going to Toronto hot docks.

00:38:07.000 So if you're in the United States, look at Ithaca.movie.

00:38:11.000 That's Ithaca with a K. And it might be coming near you, so don't miss it. 0.95

00:38:16.000 Fantastic.

00:38:17.000 Estella, thanks for coming on and explaining how we can violate the Espionage Act and look at some art simultaneously and enjoy that documentary.

00:38:25.000 We'll put the link to that in the description for you now.

00:38:29.000 Estella, thank you so much for carrying the burden that you undoubtedly carry, for continuing to campaign for Julian's freedom, So for continuing to highlight that many people do not want a paternal relationship with the state where truthful information is censored in order apparently to protect us and those of you that have been following the Twitter files case will see that similarly truthful information is being censored presumably because you and I'm talking to you

00:38:59.000 Don't know how to look after yourself or make decisions for yourself and for your family?

00:39:03.000 Julian Assange is in prison because of that mentality.

00:39:06.000 Hopefully not for too much longer.

00:39:08.000 Thanks for joining us, Stella.

00:39:10.000 Thanks, Russell.

00:39:11.000 Stay free with Russell Brand.

00:39:13.000 See it first on Rumble. 0.84

00:39:15.000 Hey, you raccoon dogs! 0.99

00:39:18.000 Look at this one.

00:39:19.000 It's one of my favourites, Gareth.

00:39:20.000 It's from someone called Nigel Green91.

00:39:23.000 Raccoon dogs hibernating winter.

00:39:25.000 That's true!

00:39:28.000 Like they were all snuggled up somewhere.

00:39:29.000 They can't have been involved.

00:39:30.000 They was innocent.

00:39:31.000 They got an alibi.

00:39:32.000 A lot of love for Stella Assange.

00:39:34.000 Bakofsky.

00:39:35.000 Let's break him out.

00:39:36.000 My brain, my choice.

00:39:37.000 Government wants to keep us from knowing the truth, man.

00:39:39.000 Yeah, I agree with you.

00:39:40.000 Mio Lazarus.

00:39:41.000 Love you, Stella.

00:39:42.000 And lots of love coming in Stella's direction.

00:39:45.000 Then, what I might call a passive-aggressive comment from the Rugby Druid.

00:39:49.000 When Brandt was this fast-talking tosser on Big Brother's Little Brother, it was Big Brother's Big Mouth, thanks, I wanted nothing more than to see him stranded on a remote island with savage beasts.

00:39:58.000 But the new Russell has won me over.

00:40:00.000 The beasts don't have to be that savage.

00:40:02.000 That's a joke, I did that last bit for a bit of a... Oh, nothing more than.

00:40:06.000 Nothing more than that.

00:40:07.000 I was a complex guy with needs, with wants, with love in my heart.

00:40:13.000 But potentially with not a long enough lifespan.

00:40:15.000 Why?

00:40:15.000 Because I didn't know the glory that is heat and cold.

00:40:19.000 Because I was locked into a modality that made me believe that health I only could be purchased by pharmaceutical companies.

00:40:27.000 I didn't know about Dr. Help Me Rhonda Patrick.

00:40:31.000 She's a biomedical scientist and the host of Found My Fitness podcast, and she's here now to talk to us about the limitless power within us that can be unlocked by subjecting ourselves, I think, to extreme temperatures.

00:40:46.000 Thanks for joining us, Dr. Rhonda.

00:40:48.000 Well, it's a pleasure to be here, Russell.

00:40:50.000 Thanks for having me on the show.

00:40:52.000 We're so grateful that you came here.

00:40:53.000 Thanks very much.

00:40:54.000 Hey, is it true that in every single conceivable, measurable metric, if you have, like, saunas, it's good for you?

00:41:00.000 Like heart disease, it's good for respiratory conditions, it's good for cancer.

00:41:04.000 Is that true or is that fake news?

00:41:08.000 It's almost true.

00:41:09.000 With the exception of cancer, that hasn't been shown yet.

00:41:12.000 But as you mentioned, you know, thermal stress, the sauna is a type of thermal stress.

00:41:17.000 You're elevating your core body temperature, much like exercise.

00:41:20.000 When you exercise, you elevate your core body temperature.

00:41:23.000 You sweat to try to cool yourself down.

00:41:25.000 Well, saunas, you know, they're a type of stress.

00:41:29.000 They're called intermittent stress.

00:41:31.000 And this is the same type of stress that exercise is.

00:41:34.000 It's a good type of stress where you're stressing your body, but your body has evolved these stress responses that are beneficial to that stress.

00:41:43.000 I mean, humans were, you know, throughout evolution, we were exposed to intermittent stress.

00:41:48.000 We were, you know, hunting, gathering, you're running fast to get prey.

00:41:52.000 You know, that we went through periods of food scarcity, right?

00:41:55.000 Like we, these are, these are types of intermittent stress.

00:41:59.000 And our bodies have evolved pathways, genes that are turned on that sort of respond to that, that are not only beneficial in that moment, but they have a net beneficial effect.

00:42:10.000 Anti-inflammatory responses, antioxidant responses that are active much longer than the intermittent type of, you know, stress period that we sort of engaged in.

00:42:21.000 And so yes, sauna use has been and it's, you know, it's a Um, a modality, another modality, I argue another modality of basically healthful types of behaviors like exercise, like meditation, like good sleep, all these things that good diet, you know, these, these are lifestyle factors that are known to improve health.

00:42:43.000 And I think sauna should be one of those factors because there is just mounting evidence that the sauna is associated with a 50% lower cardiovascular related mortality.

00:42:54.000 It's associated with a 40% lower, what's called all cause mortality, basically dying from all non-accidental causes.

00:43:01.000 As you mentioned, respiratory disease as well.

00:43:03.000 It affects the lungs.

00:43:05.000 Alzheimer's disease, the 66% lower chance of getting Alzheimer's disease.

00:43:09.000 So many different benefits that have been sort of Over the years now, we're getting more evidence that the sauna is beneficial.

00:43:17.000 It's extraordinary, it seems to me, Doctor, that by replicating the conditions by which

00:43:23.000 we long lived deep in our forgotten history, we can engage dormant forces.

00:43:31.000 And that one of the hallmarks of our time appears to be this disembodying way of life,

00:43:39.000 that we increasingly stare sedentary at screens, glazed and lost and not connected to our bodies.

00:43:47.000 Unable to have healthy sex, eat healthy food, move nimbly through trees.

00:43:54.000 It's like we've forgotten who we are.

00:43:57.000 Do you believe that that's part of what it is?

00:44:00.000 That it replicates the conditions for which we are evolved?

00:44:03.000 And indeed, is that why it even, like exercise, sauna, and can I ask, cold therapy, is that why they affect your mental health positively too?

00:44:15.000 I do think so.

00:44:16.000 I think that because we have been able to measure, you know, genetic pathways, molecular pathways, molecules that are increasing in our body in response to sauna use, in response to exercise, in response to cold exposure, we're able to measure those molecules and genes and go, look, These are beneficial molecules.

00:44:38.000 They're anti-inflammatory molecules.

00:44:39.000 They're things that are blunting chronic inflammation, which is a byproduct of being sedentary, of being overweight, obese, of eating a refined, you know, carbohydrate, processed food, rich diet.

00:44:52.000 And we're able to then also look at these genes.

00:44:55.000 These are genes that are, you know, heat shock proteins for one.

00:44:59.000 They respond to heat, but they also respond to just stress in general.

00:45:03.000 So you can actually activate heat shock proteins, obviously from sauna,

00:45:07.000 which would increase, you know, your core body temperature and exercise,

00:45:10.000 but cold exposure also increases those.

00:45:12.000 And they're basically, they have a beneficial effect in your brain, also in muscle mass.

00:45:18.000 They're preserving muscle mass, preventing atrophy.

00:45:22.000 And so, yes, I do think that actually the intermittent type of stress, you have to kind of be uncomfortable for a little bit.

00:45:29.000 And that uncomfortable feeling is essential for the response, which is beneficial.

00:45:35.000 And this term is somewhat Sometimes it's called referred to as what's called hormesis.

00:45:41.000 So essentially, you expose your body to a little bit of stress.

00:45:45.000 And sometimes that stress could be in the form of physical activity or temperature stress, or it can be plant polyphenols.

00:45:51.000 You can, you know, turmeric for one, you know, these are bioactive compounds that are found in plants that they're a little bit toxic.

00:45:59.000 But only when they're like in a really, really, really, really high dose.

00:46:02.000 So like, for example, they're toxic to insects or fungus.

00:46:05.000 And that's kind of how why plants evolve these compounds is to sort of ward them off.

00:46:10.000 But when humans ingest them, it has the same a similar response.

00:46:14.000 It activates these beneficial anti-inflammatory, anti-oxidant pathways.

00:46:19.000 And in our brain and in our body that are that are improving the way we age

00:46:23.000 and improving the way we feel, the way we think.

00:46:26.000 And it's interesting because I actually became so interested in this sauna when I was a graduate student getting my PhD, I was in the lab, failed experiment after failed experiment.

00:46:35.000 I mean, let me tell you, there's like 10, More failed experiments than successful ones.

00:46:39.000 As a scientist, I was very stressed out.

00:46:41.000 I mean, it was very overwhelming.

00:46:43.000 And I started using the sauna every morning before I went into the lab to do my experiments.

00:46:48.000 And it was like night and day difference.

00:46:50.000 I knew something was happening in my brain.

00:46:52.000 I was able to handle stress better.

00:46:54.000 I was able to handle the anxiety of, you know, graduate school better.

00:46:59.000 And so I started looking into this research and like there's something going on in the brain.

00:47:03.000 Like people usually think about sauna, they think about sweating out toxins, which is true.

00:47:07.000 But I was very interested in the profound effects that it was having on my mental health.

00:47:13.000 And that was sort of the start of my interest in saunas.

00:47:15.000 This was back in like 2010.

00:47:18.000 And since then, there has been quite a bit of literature showing that sauna is beneficial on the brain.

00:47:25.000 So work by Dr. Charles Raison, you know, this was back in about 2016, he published a paper with people that have major depressive disorder, and they were sort of resistant to typical treatment.

00:47:39.000 So like SSRI, serotonin reuptake inhibitors is a very common one.

00:47:43.000 And so he took these individuals and separated them into two groups.

00:47:47.000 One group got what's called whole body hyperthermia, which is kind of like a sauna.

00:47:52.000 So there's a machine, it's an infrared type of sauna where you basically, you know, are warming the person up via infrared radiation.

00:48:01.000 And so they were, they were getting that active treatment.

00:48:04.000 And then there was a placebo group that was getting just a little bit warmer, like enough to think they were getting the treatment, but it wasn't.

00:48:12.000 And the people that were getting the actual treatment, they actually were in a feverish state.

00:48:16.000 So their, their core body temperature, I mean, they were at about 101.3 degrees Fahrenheit, which is a little, a little bit feverish.

00:48:22.000 So they were really getting hot.

00:48:24.000 And after just one treatment, they had an antidepressant effect that was not found in the placebo group that lasted six weeks.

00:48:33.000 And this was sort of the instigation of now what is a, you know, a field of research that I'm involved in.

00:48:42.000 Dr. Ashley Mason at UCSF is now taking that, she's taken that study.

00:48:47.000 And she said, okay, well, that was one session.

00:48:50.000 What if we take depressed people and give them like four or eight sessions?

00:48:54.000 What kind of effect will that have?

00:48:56.000 And so the data is very promising.

00:49:00.000 It's not published yet.

00:49:01.000 I can't talk too many details about it, but it's extremely promising.

00:49:05.000 And it's so exciting because what we have here is a potential modality for you know, mood disorders, anxiety, much more work needs to be done.

00:49:17.000 But the reality is, is that, you know, sauna does mimic in many ways, moderate cardiovascular intensity, a lot of the physiological response is similar.

00:49:25.000 And, you know, it takes a certain amount of commitment to go for a run, to get on a bike, you know, get on your peloton, you know, whatever, whatever it is, that's going to get your heart rate, you know, up and you're you're you're sweating, you know, and a lot of times people that are depressed, it is it is challenging for them to try to take that initial step.

00:49:47.000 But when you tell them to get into a sauna, It kind of feels like, you know, well, I just have to step into this.

00:49:52.000 Yes, it's uncomfortable.

00:49:53.000 It gets uncomfortable when you get hot.

00:49:55.000 And you do have to sort of bear through that uncomfort.

00:49:58.000 But it's easier to step into a sauna than to start going for a jog, especially if you've never done that.

00:50:04.000 You've been sedentary.

00:50:05.000 And so not to mention people that are disabled.

00:50:08.000 There are a variety of people that Can't go for a run.

00:50:11.000 They can't get on a bike and cycle.

00:50:14.000 And so this is a potential new way to improve, not only improve mood and basically mental health, but the side effects are reduced cardiovascular disease, reduced respiratory disease, reduced Alzheimer's disease risk.

00:50:31.000 I mean, it's beneficial side effects.

00:50:34.000 So I'm so excited about this area of research.

00:50:37.000 And we have known for a while that exercise is also a potential treatment, not just, I wouldn't, I don't want to say potential.

00:50:44.000 I mean, it really is.

00:50:45.000 It could be a treatment for depression.

00:50:47.000 Study after study has come out.

00:50:49.000 In fact, a new one just came out comparing head to head comparison, people getting antidepressants versus people getting, getting, um, running therapy.

00:50:58.000 And it, it, you know, the running therapies is, is basically working just as good as the antidepressants.

00:51:05.000 Thank you, Doctor.

00:51:06.000 I mean, that was pretty amazing because I do saunas all the time and I'm actually still quite depressed.

00:51:15.000 I'm going to turn it up or something.

00:51:15.000 I don't know.

00:51:18.000 thing about the antidepressants because obviously that's kind of things that have been mentioned

00:51:21.000 there about combating depression and stress that's highly profitable is the medicines and

00:51:26.000 pharmaceutical drugs in that industry so I wonder if there's a kind of I don't know if there's a

00:51:30.000 suppression around this information or a lack of money going into the research for this but

00:51:35.000 obviously these are things that could make a huge difference to people without putting them on a

00:51:39.000 lifetime of of pharmaceutical drugs. I bet you're right Gareth and it's really good that you've

00:51:44.000 observed that noticed that while you're also having to edit a video for later on in the week.

00:51:49.000 That is how hard we work.

00:51:50.000 Gareth's literally working on other projects during this and I am personally an advocate for saunas and cold plunge therapy.

00:51:58.000 Love Wim Hof.

00:51:58.000 Have regular saunas.

00:52:00.000 I want to know more specific information about how hot I should be getting and how long I should be in there and I'm obviously gonna ask you that as well as reading you this comment from a member of our locals community which you can You can join.

00:52:09.000 Anyone can join.

00:52:10.000 It's a fantastic little community.

00:52:11.000 You get my stand-up special, Brandemic, as part of the package.

00:52:14.000 P. Kivvy says, I'm a Finn.

00:52:16.000 And, I mean, how dare you?

00:52:18.000 And wood-fueled sauna with a jump in the lake or snow bank in North MN is how I grew up.

00:52:24.000 See?

00:52:25.000 That's how the Finns have been doing it for a long time.

00:52:27.000 And you, Doctor, may be a scientist, but I will tell you plainly with my hand on my heart, it's pronounced tumeric.

00:52:36.000 Also, Doc, tell us a little more, would you, about the benefits of lactic acid and in particular within high-intensity workouts and perhaps pick up too on Gareth's point that there are Seems natural facilities for life giving benefits to our immune systems and respiratory systems that are not promoted or explored precisely because they're not profitable or not worthy of research.

00:53:00.000 These are the kind of questions that were raised during the pandemic and that we continue to discuss, not because we like hippie dippy lunatics, although in the case of me, I actually am a bit.

00:53:09.000 But because we believe that there are great powers that can be accessed and will only be supplemented through profitable medicines when necessary.

00:53:19.000 What do you think about all that, Doc?

00:53:21.000 Absolutely.

00:53:24.000 You nailed it on the head.

00:53:26.000 There's a lack of funding for alternative types of treatments and therapies, not only for mental health, but a variety of other age-related diseases as well.

00:53:37.000 It is extremely difficult to get funding.

00:53:39.000 And so you have to be creative and find other ways, which we have done.

00:53:43.000 And so, you know, there's always there's always people out there that that are philanthropic, that are willing and want to donate to research.

00:53:51.000 And so you just have to be creative and not just go for the same sort of, you know, government funded type of grants.

00:53:58.000 And, you know, there's not an incentive there, as you mentioned, the incentive You're not going to profit much from someone that can go for a run or from someone that can actually even take a hot bath.

00:54:08.000 To be honest, hot baths have also been shown you can do 20 minutes at 104 degrees Fahrenheit and you can activate heat shock proteins in the same way that being in a sauna.

00:54:20.000 163 degrees Fahrenheit for 30 minutes can do.

00:54:23.000 And so not everyone has access to a sauna.

00:54:27.000 As the commenter mentioned in Finland, they are pretty ubiquitous.

00:54:31.000 But a lot of people do have access to a hot bath.

00:54:33.000 And when I'm traveling, I actually do hot baths.

00:54:33.000 So I do.

00:54:35.000 If there's not a sauna in my hotel, I take a hot bath as well.

00:54:39.000 So it is something I think that people can do at home with respect to Temperature of the sauna, there are different types of saunas.

00:54:47.000 So most of the research out there has come out of Finland, by the way.

00:54:51.000 And the temperature, the sweet spot seems to be at least 174 degrees Fahrenheit.

00:54:58.000 You can convert that to Celsius.

00:55:00.000 And the duration in there is also important, at least 20 minutes.

00:55:04.000 And then also the frequency, how many times a week so to get the minimum effective benefits at least three times a week, but to really get the most robust for at least four.

00:55:14.000 So, four times a week, 20 minutes while you're in there at at least 174 degrees Fahrenheit.

00:55:19.000 Now, you mentioned high intensity exercise, vigorous exercise.

00:55:24.000 So, for a long time, It was thought when you work your muscles really hard, you're making what's called lactate or lactic acid.

00:55:32.000 It's constantly going between lactate, lactic acid.

00:55:34.000 It's just hydrogen ions moving.

00:55:36.000 And it was thought that this was like this waste product that was not beneficial at all.

00:55:40.000 In fact, it was thought it was Making your muscles sore and turns out the lactate itself is not making your muscles sore.

00:55:47.000 It's the it's the hydrogen ions, but it's so much more we have learned over the course of the past, you know, 30 years or so is that lactate when you force your muscles to work.

00:55:58.000 So too hard where they they basically can't make enough energy quick enough.

00:56:03.000 from the, you know, basically these energy producing little systems inside of your muscle called mitochondria, they use oxygen to make the energy, they have to adapt and they have to go, okay, I need to make energy quicker.

00:56:14.000 So they use glucose, they do this really quick type of metabolism where lactate is a byproduct.

00:56:20.000 And it turns out the muscles excrete it into circulation, and it gets into the brain, transported into the brain, where it's been shown to increase neurotransmitter production, glutamate, the major excitatory neurotransmitter, norepinephrine, involved in focus and attention.

00:56:37.000 And also it's important, it's been shown to be critical for what's called long-term potentiation.

00:56:42.000 Essentially, Long-term memory being able to remember things I'm learning being able to learn things and this is all being generated from your muscle It's also a little it acts as a little messenger that increases what's called brain drive neurotrophic factor in your brain It's making you smarter It's making you more your brain more plastic able to adapt to changing environments and it's increasing the production of new neurons in your brain all from exercise all from this

00:57:08.000 Quote unquote, what we thought metabolic waste product.

00:57:11.000 Our muscles are like little pharmaceutical factories.

00:57:13.000 They're making compounds that are beneficial, not only for cardiovascular health.

00:57:18.000 I think everyone agrees exercise has been known to be beneficial for cardiovascular health, but mental health as well.

00:57:24.000 It's producing compounds that are, you know, they're acting as little signaling molecules, increasing Neurotrophic factors in our brain.

00:57:31.000 I mean, it's unreal.

00:57:32.000 And not only that, they soak up harmful compounds.

00:57:35.000 Something called kynurenine.

00:57:37.000 Muscles literally, when we exercise, they soak up something called kynurenine, which is a byproduct of tryptophan metabolism.

00:57:44.000 Tryptophan is an essential amino acid we have to get from our diet.

00:57:47.000 it's converted into serotonin in the brain, but it's also converted into kinuronine,

00:57:51.000 which causes depression, you know, accelerates brain aging.

00:57:55.000 When we exercise, our muscle is soaking it up.

00:57:57.000 All we have so many, I mean, we just have to know how to press the buttons,

00:58:02.000 the right buttons in our body.

00:58:04.000 And there's so much that can be done beneficially for mental health, for physical health,

00:58:08.000 for the way we age, for improving the way our loved, you know, our family members, our loved ones,

00:58:12.000 helping them feel better, helping the world, you know, feel better.

00:58:15.000 I think exercise is like the most important thing and particularly moderate to vigorous exercise,

00:58:22.000 but on top of that, heat stress is another modality as well.

00:58:25.000 And so I'm it's awesome to hear that you're doing this Russell and I do it as well.

00:58:30.000 And it's like one of those things you don't know until you know, you just you got to try it.

00:58:34.000 If this is true, and you're doing it, how come you are so lacklustre and lacking in passion in your own discourse?

00:58:42.000 How come you are so stymied and astringent and floppy and lacking in vitality?

00:58:51.000 Doctor, it's so fantastic to have you on the show and to have the opportunity to showcase your evident passion and knowledge, to hear you explain how many of the tools we require for wellness are accessible within us, even though of course we accept that, as you say, not everyone has access to a sauna, although if there are good facilities near you it's an absolute possibility.

00:59:10.000 It's interesting to know that we can take control of our personal wellness, that we can alter the trajectory of our health, that we don't We need to be sedentary zombies staring dimly at screens, pumping ourselves sort of SSRIs to remain just a little bit upbeat.

00:59:27.000 If you are yourself a symbol of these methods, then they seem to be working extremely well.

00:59:33.000 I hope that I get another opportunity to speak with you.

00:59:37.000 I'd love to have you on the show many, many more times.

00:59:39.000 You obviously have a great deal to say and so much of it is incredibly beneficial and informative.

00:59:44.000 Thank you, Doctor.

00:59:46.000 I thank you so much, Russell.

00:59:47.000 I'd love to chat with you again in the future.

00:59:49.000 Thanks.

00:59:50.000 Come on.

00:59:50.000 Come on the show.

00:59:51.000 Come round.

00:59:52.000 Totally.

00:59:53.000 I'm on it.

00:59:54.000 I know you will.

00:59:55.000 I know you don't muck about, do you, mate?

01:00:01.000 Get in now! 0.96

01:00:02.000 Dr Rhonda Patrick is the host of the Found My Fitness podcast, which I heartily recommend.

01:00:08.000 Thank you so much for joining us, Dr Rhonda Patrick.

01:00:11.000 Thanks, mate.

01:00:13.000 Is that meant to be you and Rhonda tomorrow?

01:00:15.000 Which one am I then?

01:00:17.000 Am I the little dog?

01:00:21.000 I found patient zero, said someone in our chat.

01:00:24.000 But Gareth, sarcastically and in a mean spirited way, saying that I'm that grinning hound and Rhonda Patrick is the dominant raccoon dog.

01:00:34.000 Hey, I'm in no position to complain about any dynamic.

01:00:37.000 Look at that.

01:00:38.000 I've never been on a... That's the tightrope that I walk.

01:00:42.000 It's a razor's edge, baby.

01:00:43.000 I'm going to get political, Ross, just to end the show.

01:00:45.000 Instead of giving us free burgers and fries, maybe we should have kept the gyms and the saunas open during the pandemic.

01:00:45.000 Go on.

01:00:52.000 Then we'd have all got healthier as a result and happier.

01:00:55.000 You are lucky we are on Rumble, because if you say anything like that at The Guardian, on MSNBC, or heaven forbid on YouTube, you'd be literally put in jail.

01:01:07.000 You'd be going, there's no saunas where you're going, my man.

01:01:10.000 Prison!

01:01:12.000 We've got a fantastic show for you tomorrow.

01:01:15.000 We've got a fantastic guest, anti-war advocate and personal friend, Dave Smith.

01:01:20.000 We'll also be taking a deeper look at Tucker's Iraq regrets, as well as having a bit of fun around that peace deal that they're trying to Bulls up.

01:01:29.000 Like, you know, China and Russia are looking for a peace deal.

01:01:31.000 And also we'll be looking at Vladimir.

01:01:33.000 Maybe the reason peace hasn't been achieved is because Vladimir Putin literally doesn't seem to know how to shake hands.

01:01:40.000 Except when there's, like, shaking.

01:01:41.000 There's a guy who could do with a sauna.

01:01:43.000 Maybe that's what's needed.

01:01:44.000 Get Putin and Biden in a sauna.

01:01:47.000 Lock the door.

01:01:48.000 See which one lives longest.

01:01:49.000 That one gets to run the world.

01:01:51.000 Would that work?

01:01:51.000 Are they wearing towels in there?

01:01:53.000 They're naked.

01:01:53.000 Oh, the towels are off.

01:01:54.000 Of course they're naked.

01:01:55.000 They've got to be naked in there, and they're right bunched up against each other, sweating on each other.

01:01:59.000 Do each other good, I think.

01:01:59.000 Right.

01:02:01.000 Do each other what?

01:02:02.000 Nothing.

01:02:03.000 I'm not prepared to say it twice.

01:02:04.000 I'm feeling baddest.

01:02:06.000 Hey, sign up to Locals.

01:02:07.000 You get my stand-up special, Brandemic, included in the deal.

01:02:11.000 You can buy it for a one-off price for a limited time for $20.

01:02:14.000 Here's a little look at it now.

01:02:16.000 What's going on at these parties?

01:02:19.000 Did you read about what went on at the parties?

01:02:21.000 Did you check it out?

01:02:23.000 Yeah, do you remember the main BLs that you picked up?

01:02:26.000 It's cheese and wine, innit?

01:02:28.000 Cheese.

01:02:29.000 And wine.

01:02:30.000 That's what our leaders think constitutes a good time.

01:02:34.000 Cheese.

01:02:38.000 More than the betrayal and the lying and the potential duplicity that's implied by the fact that they weren't abiding by rules that we had to abide by, presumably for safety reasons, if they weren't concerned about those safety reasons, why were those rules implemented?

01:02:49.000 Forget all that! 0.99

01:02:51.000 I think what really bothers me is how shit their parties were. 1.00

01:02:56.000 Hey, bit of cheese and wine! 1.00

01:02:58.000 Ooh, hello!

01:03:00.000 Mini Baby Bell, anybody? 0.89

01:03:04.000 Hey, up and down, look below, you're too slow, look at me, Derry Lee, hey!

01:03:11.000 Yeah, come on Janice. Have a triangle, have a slice, looks nice, 1.00

01:03:15.000 Brie, Edam, Guggenzola, crazy times, rock and roll, do do do, yeah!

01:03:21.000 LAUGHTER LAUGHTER

01:03:25.000 At least nearly die when you have a party! 1.00

01:03:28.000 Like a proper fucking British person! 1.00

01:03:31.000 Aren't you familiar with scenes like this? 1.00

01:03:35.000 Fucking hell mate, what's happened to your face? 1.00

01:03:37.000 Went to a party last night. 1.00

01:03:41.000 Jesus, there's blood coming out of your eye.

01:03:43.000 Yeah, it was my cousin's wedding yesterday. 0.99

01:03:45.000 There's a knife sticking out of your stomach! 0.58

01:03:49.000 It was a lovely christening. 0.99

01:03:52.000 Hey, there I go!

01:03:53.000 You can get that, you can watch it now if you're a member of the locals community, like Thomas Beard, who says exercise is almost always the answer, or Pride Fault, I know something that'll work for your depression, but you won't try it.

01:04:04.000 What is it?

01:04:05.000 What can she mean?

01:04:06.000 What do they all mean, these people?

01:04:08.000 Well, you beautiful folk in our community, well...

01:04:11.000 It's time for us to leave you now, unless you're a member of our locals community, where you can immediately watch Stay Connected, the weekly show Gareth and I do, where we answer your questions and show you behind the scenes, and by God, what crazy things go on.

01:04:22.000 Remember, we've got fantastic content coming up later this week, as well as the weekly meditations that are accessible.

01:04:28.000 There's one dropping on Sunday, where I deal with imposter syndrome.

01:04:31.000 Not personally, I know who I am, I believe in me.

01:04:34.000 You can access things like live podcast recordings like the one I've just done with Graham Hancock, which will be the show for everyone else on Friday.

01:04:42.000 You get to see fantastic content.

01:04:45.000 You'll be surrounded by it.

01:04:46.000 Freedom will flood through your veins like Dr. Rhonda Patrick's serotonin, which she's drowning in from the sound of her.

01:04:53.000 Join us tomorrow, not for more of the same, but for more of the different.

01:04:55.000 Until then, stay free.

Stay Free - Russel Brand - March 23, 2023

Dr Rhonda Patrick (Dealing With Depression)

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