Stay Free - Russel Brand - Dr Shanna Swan (Plastic Crisis: How Chemicals are Affecting Human Fertility)

00:00:00.000 Hello there, you Awakening Wonders.

00:00:01.000 Thanks for joining me live on the internet for Stay Free with Russell Brand.

00:00:05.000 We've got a hell of a lot to talk to you about.

00:00:07.000 Of course we have.

00:00:08.000 We're living in a crazy world.

00:00:09.000 We're living in crazy times.

00:00:11.000 If you want to join the conversation, you can get on Locals right now.

00:00:14.000 That's our membership community.

00:00:16.000 People are saying stuff like, actually, I'm here for the beginning live.

00:00:18.000 People are excited.

00:00:19.000 People are feeling the energy.

00:00:21.000 People sense that real change is about to happen, that the institutions are crumbling, that the media is falling apart, that their funding models don't work, that their advertising is collapsing, that they don't know how to cope with this degree of dissent, and it's all because of you and the great power within you.

00:00:37.000 Trust that power.

00:00:39.000 Don't trust their lies.

00:00:40.000 Trust your instinct and intuition.

00:00:42.000 Sure, you might be fallible, but we're approaching this situation in good faith, ain't we?

00:00:46.000 And when you are, You hear some of the revelations we're making today?

00:00:50.000 You're gonna double down on that self-trust and that loathing of authoritarianism that's got you this far because we are talking about...

00:00:58.000 The mother of all conspiracy theories.

00:01:01.000 I'd say so.

00:01:01.000 Is it the mother?

00:01:02.000 If JFK's the father of all conspiracy theories, then the mother... Stop there.

00:01:06.000 9-11.

00:01:07.000 That great scar on the American psyche.

00:01:10.000 We cannot talk about this on YouTube, but there's a new revelation, and if this is true, and the reporting suggests it is, this is groundbreaking.

00:01:17.000 This is earth-shattering.

00:01:19.000 This shows disdain for the American people.

00:01:21.000 and lies at the heart of government and we will be talking to you about that in

00:01:25.000 10 minutes time. It involves the CIA and 9-11. I can't say more otherwise I'll be

00:01:31.000 called a conspiracy theorist but what are they called? Too late for that, I'm afraid.

00:01:35.000 Yeah, that horse has bolted. And it's become a term, as you know, as you taught us that

00:01:40.000 they use to shut down debate.

00:01:41.000 It's interesting that conspiracy theorists often talk about ideas that are not amenable to the interests of powerful elites that Joe Biden governs for.

00:01:50.000 When Joe Biden told those donors Nothing will fundamentally change.

00:01:54.000 That is a direct quote.

00:01:56.000 What was he saying?

00:01:57.000 We will act as stewards for your elite institutional interests and we will control the American people.

00:02:04.000 The American people are our enemies. 0.76

00:02:07.000 That's why we need surveillance.

00:02:09.000 That's why we need control.

00:02:10.000 That's why we look for opportunities to legislate and regulate.

00:02:13.000 We're certainly not trying to help people.

00:02:16.000 So we're going to be looking at some pretty interesting stories actually about Joe Biden.

00:02:21.000 We are going to look in depth at the relationship between almost the entire Biden family and Burisma.

00:02:28.000 A lot of them.

00:02:29.000 yeah there's a the biden family the biden family there's every single member of the biden family seems to have some sort of relationship with ukrainian uh gas firm barisma barisma best in the business Oh, you want gas?

00:02:48.000 Come get it here.

00:02:49.000 We're also going to be talking to Shania Twain.

00:02:51.000 That don't impress me much.

00:02:53.000 No, it isn't.

00:02:53.000 We're not talking to Shania Twain.

00:02:54.000 We're talking to Dr. Shanna Swan, whose name, when written down, looks a bit like Shania Twain, but you're going to get a very different interview.

00:03:02.000 Right.

00:03:02.000 Well, who knows?

00:03:03.000 Have you ever tried interviewing Shania Twain?

00:03:06.000 No.

00:03:06.000 Right.

00:03:07.000 But I'll tell you, I'll tell you, even though we're talking to Shanna Swan, not Shanna Twain, I'll tell you what don't impress me much.

00:03:13.000 Go on.

00:03:14.000 The deterioration of sperms.

00:03:17.000 Your own?

00:03:18.000 Mine are fine.

00:03:19.000 I've looked at those guys under a microscope.

00:03:21.000 Oh, that's what that was for.

00:03:22.000 And the instrument that delivered them.

00:03:24.000 I wonder why it was all greasy.

00:03:27.000 You stay away from that.

00:03:28.000 You don't need a microscope.

00:03:30.000 Use that.

00:03:31.000 God's microscope.

00:03:32.000 The mind.

00:03:32.000 Got it.

00:03:33.000 The mind.

00:03:34.000 Shanna Swan, a world-renowned reproductive health professor who believes the modern world is threatening sperm counts and imperiling the future of the human race.

00:03:42.000 Sometimes, do you think that the human race is worth saving?

00:03:44.000 Do you ever get into a state of despair and think, it's humanity itself?

00:03:47.000 But then you think of Christ.

00:03:48.000 Then you think of Gandhi.

00:03:50.000 And then you think of this great suffering that we've been through.

00:03:52.000 And you think of the love that you feel for the people in your lives.

00:03:54.000 And you think, no, this is worth fighting for.

00:03:56.000 Christ didn't have to deal with phthalates though, did he?

00:03:58.000 He wasn't around in his day.

00:04:00.000 Christ may not have had to deal with phthalates, which are the sort of, it's a toxin in food that's getting down into what I call the sperm duct and messing with your testy juices.

00:04:09.000 We're still on YouTube and I'll tell you what, if YouTube regulators, and you know that the WHO set their policy around healthcare for example, If the YouTube regulators have any idea of what we're about to say, you know, like when they put a warning at the top of all our videos, or like, you know, if you look at Joe Rogan's podcasts on Spotify down the menu, COVID advice, COVID advice, COVID advice, like, you know, like also 9-11, it's one of those subjects, isn't it?

00:04:34.000 And I, out of respect for the victims of 9-11, I would never convey irresponsible Theories about what went on that day.

00:04:45.000 But these revelations seems to me that they're demonstrably true.

00:04:49.000 But we'll investigate it together.

00:04:50.000 We'll tell you.

00:04:51.000 You'll tell us whether you think it's true.

00:04:53.000 It's been reported elsewhere.

00:04:54.000 We're going to be discussing it exclusively on Rumble though.

00:04:57.000 There's a link in the description whether you're watching this on Elon Musk's Citadel of Wonder.

00:05:02.000 That's Twitter or over there at YouTube.

00:05:05.000 Subset of Alphabet, subset of Google.

00:05:07.000 Fantastic there.

00:05:09.000 6.4 million awakening wonders can hardly be wrong.

00:05:11.000 Can they, Gal?

00:05:12.000 Can they?

00:05:13.000 I've got here, I have in my hand.

00:05:14.000 Is that, what is it?

00:05:15.000 It's a tick device.

00:05:16.000 Oh yeah.

00:05:17.000 For, um, not for, uh, wounded sperms.

00:05:20.000 I thought that's how you got it out.

00:05:21.000 Boop, out you come! 1.00

00:05:22.000 Beep, beep! 0.99

00:05:23.000 No, it's for, uh, it's for my beautiful dog, Bear.

00:05:25.000 Will it come free with the microscope?

00:05:28.000 This is something you would get in cereal, you know, like Rice Krispies or Frosties or something like that.

00:05:28.000 No!

00:05:32.000 Anyway, let's not get bogged down in that.

00:05:35.000 There's my beautiful dog, Bear.

00:05:35.000 It's for Bear.

00:05:37.000 See him?

00:05:37.000 God, I love that guy.

00:05:38.000 You a good boy?

00:05:39.000 Yes, you are.

00:05:40.000 Yes, you are.

00:05:41.000 And we're going to bring down the government using only truth as our weapon.

00:05:44.000 Yes, we are.

00:05:45.000 Only truth and a tick remover. 0.99

00:05:47.000 The parasites that sup upon the human spirit must be removed. 0.66

00:05:51.000 Truth is our weapon. 0.81

00:05:53.000 You know where Joe Biden's announced that he's gonna be running again?

00:05:57.000 Through a beautiful piece of propaganda that we have analyzed, scrutinized, and debunked, essentially, because we've offered a rebuttal for many of his points about freedom.

00:06:07.000 Sweet lady freedom.

00:06:08.000 Freedom that we all adore, that we all love, that perhaps isn't being delivered.

00:06:12.000 Searching for the soundbite.

00:06:14.000 Oh, where are we gonna get it?

00:06:16.000 Is it gonna be the...

00:06:17.000 No, it's the wrong one.

00:06:19.000 There it is.

00:06:21.000 Freedom, you will let us down though, Joe Biden, because you will make all sorts of claims, whether it's sick days for workers.

00:06:28.000 Well, once you've said nothing's going to fundamentally change, what you've essentially said is, I am going to manage this nation for the elites, right?

00:06:38.000 One person who's been making his own... I mean, is Donald Trump some sort of YouTube maestro?

00:06:45.000 His latest video, his response to Biden's news that he's running, it's like a YouTube video.

00:06:53.000 There's cutaways that are the same as when we do, say if we do an advert for golden things.

00:06:58.000 You think he's copying you?

00:06:59.000 I think he's copying me.

00:07:00.000 Right.

00:07:00.000 I think he's copycatting us.

00:07:02.000 A sincerest form of flattery.

00:07:04.000 Yeah.

00:07:05.000 Let's know in the chat.

00:07:05.000 I think so.

00:07:06.000 Wait till you see this video.

00:07:07.000 I would say this is Donald Trump on Stay Free.

00:07:10.000 And if you're watching Donald Trump, because we know Don Trump Jr.

00:07:12.000 is on Rumble, and we've been trying to organize an interview with Donald Trump for a little while, I bet you'd love to see that, would you?

00:07:18.000 Would you love to see Donald Trump on Stay Free?

00:07:19.000 We'd take the trip to Mar-a-Lago for that.

00:07:22.000 Imagine that, Gal.

00:07:23.000 You and I on the sunbeds at Mar-O-Lago.

00:07:27.000 I'd be up for that.

00:07:28.000 You would too?

00:07:29.000 Yeah.

00:07:29.000 What do you think?

00:07:30.000 Would you get bothered?

00:07:31.000 Because it's a busy place, Mar-O-Lago, these days.

00:07:32.000 Busy?

00:07:33.000 What's going on there?

00:07:34.000 Well, it's booked out.

00:07:35.000 Fully booked.

00:07:36.000 Is it actually a holiday resort?

00:07:37.000 You'd have to talk to the big man.

00:07:38.000 I don't know what it is.

00:07:39.000 I thought he'd just live there.

00:07:40.000 I thought he'd start going to his house.

00:07:41.000 I thought it was like Hugh Hefner's mansion or Graceland.

00:07:45.000 Like, I like it when someone's so famous that their house is famous.

00:07:49.000 Yes.

00:07:50.000 Michael Jackson, never land.

00:07:52.000 Or as we call it now, sometimes land.

00:07:55.000 And Graceland, that's for the King.

00:07:58.000 Mar-a-Lago, anyone else?

00:08:00.000 King Arthur, Camelot.

00:08:02.000 That's your next example.

00:08:03.000 Emu's Pink Windmill.

00:08:04.000 That's it.

00:08:05.000 That's all I've got.

00:08:07.000 Emu's a British TV show where Rod Hull manipulated an Emu puppet, memorably once, irritating Snoop Dogg.

00:08:16.000 Who didn't enter into the spirit of it. It was like a puppet thing, like Rod Hull who managed Emu.

00:08:20.000 Oh no, Emu, Emu! And like Emu was naughty and that and bothered people.

00:08:25.000 But Snoop Dogg, he was the early incarnation of Snoop, still crip-walking Snoop, I'm thinking.

00:08:31.000 Like, he was like, I don't agree with this.

00:08:35.000 Like, he sort of treated it like this is just this guy's hand.

00:08:38.000 Yeah, well, it was his guy's hand, yeah.

00:08:39.000 And he treated it as such.

00:08:40.000 Maybe we can have a look at that later, because it's a pretty good clip.

00:08:42.000 It's Rod Hull appearing on The Word with Snoop Dogg.

00:08:46.000 Stay free with Russell Brand.

00:08:48.000 See it first on Rumble.

00:08:49.000 The comments in Locals is blowing up, baby, blowing up.

00:08:54.000 Why can't we be more like France? 0.98

00:08:57.000 I mean, it's moving so quick, I can hardly believe...

00:09:01.000 Can it be more like France? 0.91

00:09:02.000 Eat some French food, speak a bit like them.

00:09:04.000 I mean, there are ways.

00:09:05.000 Onions.

00:09:06.000 Onions around the neck.

00:09:08.000 Those bicycles that the British police force occasionally use in a motorcade.

00:09:12.000 You can be more like France, but can we rise up? 0.97

00:09:14.000 That's Venus siren, venue siren, Venice siren.

00:09:18.000 It is Taiwan, the new Ukraine, says Cordalis.

00:09:21.000 Yeah, the globalists are trying to reshift world powers.

00:09:23.000 Firegirl 2020, our mate.

00:09:25.000 Hello there, Firegirl. 1.00

00:09:26.000 I am so not on board with a new proxy war in Taiwan or anywhere, but too bad.

00:09:31.000 Who cares what I think?

00:09:33.000 My brain, my choice.

00:09:34.000 Democrat slogan for 2024.

00:09:36.000 Feed the people, S-H-I-T, which is a type of swear word.

00:09:39.000 Allegedly.

00:09:40.000 And keep them in the dark.

00:09:41.000 Billbooth369, there's nothing intelligent about the CIA.

00:09:44.000 Alex Oberton, we need one of those for golf.

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00:10:05.000 Surely you're aware of what Ryan Reynolds and the fella out of Always Sunny in Philadelphia are doing down in Wrexham.

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00:10:24.000 This is a real deal, what we're doing now.

00:10:26.000 Now, we have to have a macro perspective of what's going on, as well as scrutinising and analysing the minutiae of American political life, as well as trying to vivify debate with good humour and good grace.

00:10:38.000 We have to understand the science of the macro narratives.

00:10:41.000 We have to understand if we are a species in decline.

00:10:44.000 We have to understand the molecular and the cosmic simultaneously.

00:10:49.000 I'm joined now by Dr Shanna Swan, Professor of Environmental Medicine and Public Health under the world's leading environmental and reproductive Epidemiologist, author of, and we're going to post a link to this, Countdown!

00:11:01.000 How our modern world is threatening sperm counts, altering male and female reproductive development, and imperiling the future of the human race.

00:11:09.000 Could there be a more important ontological subject than the future of our species itself?

00:11:15.000 Dr. Shanna, thank you for joining us for this conversation, and I apologize in advance for some of the things that have happened in the last hour.

00:11:22.000 I, for example, am mentally ill.

00:11:29.000 Hi Russell, it's wonderful to listen to you.

00:11:32.000 I've enjoyed the last hour, actually, and I'm happy to be here and talk to you.

00:11:37.000 What the hell's... Don't take this the wrong way, Doctor.

00:11:40.000 What the hell's going on with the sperms?

00:11:44.000 Well, I don't know about your sperms in particular, but sperms in general, actually all over the world, are not doing very well.

00:11:54.000 The count is down about 50% or more and it's getting worse.

00:12:02.000 50% in what time frame and to what do you attribute this radical, sudden and worrying decline?

00:12:11.000 So we don't really know where it started.

00:12:14.000 But in our studies, we've been looking at this for 50-57 years, other people have looked farther back.

00:12:23.000 But it is Going on for a long time, and I would say very dramatically since post-World War II, with the rise of the love of science, the love of modern technology, which I believe is playing a role.

00:12:45.000 So when you say, what is it due to?

00:12:48.000 Not one thing, of course.

00:12:53.000 But I like to kind of dismiss the things that I'm not going to focus on, right?

00:12:58.000 So it's not going to be genetics, it's not going to be evolution, because it's too fast.

00:13:03.000 That's two generations, it's not going to happen that much.

00:13:06.000 Okay, and then there are very important things about how we live How we live.

00:13:12.000 So our smoking, our alcohol use, our marijuana use, our stress, our obesity, and so on and so forth.

00:13:20.000 These are all really important things.

00:13:22.000 They're, I call them lifestyle factors, and they're going to, you know, they do play a role for sure.

00:13:29.000 But there's a whole other category of things, which are chemicals in our environment.

00:13:36.000 And that's where I focus my attention, although I have published on these other lifestyle factors as well.

00:13:42.000 The lifestyle factors, I suppose, ultimately come down to individual freedom of choice.

00:13:49.000 But if there is an epidemic toxicity within our food sources, for example, phthalates in fast foods, then that seems to me to be an immersive and corporatized, if not deliberate, then It's still a detrimental and incredibly destructive and avoidable problem that literally threatens the future of our species.

00:14:14.000 The more conspiratorially inclined members of our viewership might think that this is part of a process of diminishing our potency.

00:14:24.000 But approaching this from a data-oriented conversation, what do you think is the problem with our food and toxicity within our food?

00:14:35.000 So, food is definitely a major source of the chemicals I worry about.

00:14:41.000 One of the things that's really serious in our food is plastics.

00:14:48.000 Believe it or not, plastics, chemicals in plastics, and now we're hearing more and more about micro and nanoplastics, which can be measured in food.

00:14:59.000 Here's a little example.

00:15:00.000 Okay, you milk a cow by hand.

00:15:04.000 Old-fashioned way.

00:15:06.000 No phthalates.

00:15:08.000 You milk a cow with a milking machine.

00:15:11.000 Plastic tubing contains phthalates.

00:15:13.000 Phthalates are in the milk.

00:15:15.000 Okay?

00:15:16.000 So you can blow that up and talk about that in all kinds of food.

00:15:21.000 And then you can talk about phthalates that come in when you wrap the food, when you ship the food, when you store the food, when you cook the food.

00:15:32.000 And it's not just phthalates.

00:15:34.000 There are things in our, you know, hands.

00:15:37.000 Teflon was not doing us any good.

00:15:40.000 And these things can, what we call, interact with the phthalates and make the problem worse. 0.52

00:15:46.000 So it's phthalates plus, I would say.

00:15:48.000 It's not just sperm, which is a problem enough in itself, I would contest, but also testosterone is being diminished.

00:15:56.000 Now, without wishing to overtly signal to a portion of our beloved viewership, Does the ideological attack on masculinity extend to a kind of chemical warfare against sperm and testosterone if we're seeing decline of this degree in such a short time frame?

00:16:17.000 Does it amount to a kind of chemical castration of the portion of the A population most likely to become radicalized and rebel against institutional corruption.

00:16:27.000 Now this is wild conjecture, and of course beyond the remit of your study.

00:16:30.000 But it's curious, isn't it, to ponder, Doctor, that we are being denied the biochemical impetus for the kind of priapism that could lead to revolutionary change.

00:16:44.000 That we're becoming neutered at the same time as the culture appears to be diminishing the Disobedient traits that likely might lead to meaningful change.

00:16:56.000 What do you reckon to all of that then?

00:16:58.000 So testosterone is also declining.

00:17:03.000 We have less evidence on that, but we have quite a bit and we see not only measured in studies, you know, showing testosterone declining, but also reports and data from physician's offices where more and more younger men are coming in for testosterone replacement therapy.

00:17:22.000 More and more men are being seen for erectile dysfunction.

00:17:27.000 These are, Of course, related to testosterone.

00:17:31.000 And let me tell you, it's not just the men.

00:17:35.000 It's also affecting women. 0.74

00:17:37.000 So women also have testosterone, right? 0.99

00:17:40.000 And in our study, we got the urine of pregnant women. 0.98

00:17:46.000 Why?

00:17:46.000 Because you can't know what's in a pregnant woman's body by asking her.

00:17:52.000 I can ask you, how much thalates in your body right now, Russell?

00:17:57.000 No, you don't know that, right?

00:17:58.000 But we asked the women, we asked the women, give us our urine. 1.00

00:18:03.000 We tested the urine and the women who had higher levels of phthalates had less successful sex lives. 0.99

00:18:13.000 Okay, so that's just it.

00:18:14.000 I don't want to say a lot about the women. 0.95

00:18:16.000 They're very important in here.

00:18:17.000 I don't know how much you want to talk about them, but the book is... Countdown emphasizes sperm, and I've been emphasizing sperm, and I've been studying sperm primarily, but I've also studied the female side.

00:18:29.000 So it's not just a male problem, and it's not just a human problem, by the way.

00:18:34.000 Oh, what do you mean?

00:18:35.000 The animals, their sperm and testosterone is being diminished also.

00:18:38.000 Look, let's not worry about them just yet, although I do love my dog.

00:18:41.000 His sperm is another matter. 0.88

00:18:43.000 I want to ask you this as plain as day, dear Dr. Shanna.

00:18:47.000 What the hell are we going to do to reverse this decline in testosterone and sperm?

00:18:50.000 I need every last cell.

00:18:52.000 Every last endocrinal advantage I can get needs to be undergirded by sheer science.

00:19:00.000 How am I going to boost those boys back to the good times?

00:19:02.000 Build back better like Biden?

00:19:04.000 What are we going to do to get our sperm and testosterone riding high once more? 0.75

00:19:12.000 So what we can do as individuals is kind of limited because we don't have the information we need to make healthy choices.

00:19:21.000 And because the chemicals that are in our products are not regulated.

00:19:24.000 That's just the fact.

00:19:26.000 They're mostly not regulated.

00:19:28.000 And to make it worse, the damage has already been done when we're adults.

00:19:36.000 Okay, so the worst hit is the fetus in the womb, because there's the rapid, very rapid cell division that's going on, that's extremely sensitive and will govern how that organism develops.

00:19:53.000 So if you mess that up, you cause damage, which is not fixable.

00:19:59.000 Okay?

00:20:01.000 Doctor, it sounds to me like we need to go to war with these corporations that are polluting our food sources.

00:20:07.000 Gareth, I can see that you've got an inquiry.

00:20:09.000 Yeah.

00:20:10.000 Hello, Doctor.

00:20:11.000 Nice to meet you.

00:20:12.000 I just had a question about the kind of, I guess, the political environment around all of these things, because I guess one of the big issues is when you're talking about the...

00:20:25.000 Sorry about that.

00:20:27.000 One of the big issues around this is that, for example, with the FDA, I mean, these are an organization that's meant to regulate these things.

00:20:36.000 And when you have a big food industry that gives so much money to the government to kind of keep these, I'm guessing, profitable endeavors when it comes to plastics in food packaging going, Is that a massive issue that we're going to have moving forward?

00:20:50.000 The kind of developments we need to make and the changes in packaging and things and the way that we're going to change this in the future won't be able to occur because of the huge amount of lobbying that goes on within the government.

00:21:01.000 Of course, people like, for example, people who work for the FDA are obviously extremely compromised by the kind of money that they receive.

00:21:10.000 Definitely.

00:21:11.000 I think that's actually correct.

00:21:13.000 I also would like to say it's not just our food.

00:21:16.000 Okay, so these chemicals are in our food.

00:21:19.000 Yes, they're in our water.

00:21:20.000 Yes.

00:21:21.000 But they're also in our products.

00:21:23.000 If you walk around your kitchen, if you walk around your house, and just take a little inventory of what's made of plastic, or what has what we call barrier chemicals, these PFOAs in them, it's everywhere.

00:21:35.000 And we're not We don't know where they are.

00:21:38.000 We, individuals, consumers, should not have to figure this out.

00:21:45.000 Right?

00:21:46.000 So, so, I mean, I would challenge you, you know, to ask, you know, how much have you touched plastic?

00:21:54.000 How much have you eaten plastic today?

00:21:56.000 Just think about your, your day.

00:21:58.000 Maybe Russell, you would like to do a little inventory of your walk through your house or your car.

00:22:05.000 You know, that little, um, I don't know if you hang this in your car, a little pine cone, right?

00:22:09.000 I get that right out.

00:22:10.000 They put that into the car wash.

00:22:12.000 I whip it out.

00:22:13.000 I dispose of it sensibly.

00:22:16.000 I hate that little guy.

00:22:17.000 What does it do?

00:22:18.000 I've always mistrusted it.

00:22:19.000 What does it do?

00:22:20.000 Sometimes the one that's like a Christmas tree, that's the worst one.

00:22:23.000 What's it doing?

00:22:24.000 What's it doing to the downstairs magic factory?

00:22:30.000 So I actually had a hard time hearing all of that, to tell you the truth.

00:22:33.000 Probably for the best, Doc.

00:22:34.000 Probably for the best.

00:22:37.000 You know those sort of little Christmas trees that you hang up on your rear view mirror?

00:22:41.000 Are you saying that they cause problems to sperm and testosterone?

00:22:45.000 That's a more sensible way of framing what was, frankly, a very silly question, but it was the same general gist.

00:22:52.000 Yeah.

00:22:53.000 And let me just add that it's It's more.

00:23:01.000 I want to just mention a couple of other things that are hurting our sperm.

00:23:08.000 How about cosmetics?

00:23:09.000 How about personal care products?

00:23:11.000 How about what you put on your face this morning?

00:23:13.000 Here's an example.

00:23:14.000 If you put on a face cream or something, you know, aftershave, that gets absorbed into your skin.

00:23:20.000 And one of the things that helps that get absorbed is phthalates.

00:23:23.000 Phthalates not only make plastic soft and flexible, they also increase absorption.

00:23:28.000 When you put something with a nice scent, That's going to contain phthalates because phthalates hold, help a product hold its scent.

00:23:37.000 And if your partner puts on lipstick or nail polish, that's going to contain plastic phthalates because phthalates add, you know, make the thing hold the scent and the color.

00:23:50.000 So those are just, you know, wherever we look in every phase of our life, we're getting this stuff in and we haven't agreed to this.

00:23:59.000 Right?

00:24:00.000 Nobody asked us to test these chemicals, but we really are the lab rats on this.

00:24:07.000 Because they have not been tested.

00:24:09.000 So what has to happen?

00:24:10.000 It goes into the product.

00:24:11.000 Somebody might, like me, does a study.

00:24:13.000 We say, ah, there's an association between an exposure and this bad outcome, and then eventually it goes maybe to the regulatory branch, and then they consider whether they should change the regulations, and then they have to retool the industry and make a new product.

00:24:31.000 You can see that this takes a very, very, very long time, right?

00:24:35.000 And so meanwhile we're all exposed and our sperm count is going down and our fertility is going down.

00:24:41.000 Oh man, this isn't good news that you've given us there, because a lot of that stuff's unavoidable.

00:24:46.000 We're gonna have to just use glass, we're gonna have to get into organic farming.

00:24:51.000 In a sense, God, isn't it?

00:24:52.000 How many times do we have to be reminded that we ought remain within the remit of our anthropology?

00:24:57.000 That, in a sense, the miracle that plasticity provided in terms of our ability to generate consumer goods has been immediately countered by a You know, medical consequences.

00:25:12.000 It's something that has to be not only addressed, but plainly reversed, it would seem.

00:25:18.000 Yeah, reversal is possible, Russell.

00:25:21.000 It actually is possible, but it will take, based on animal experiments, take three generations.

00:25:27.000 So that's good for the animal, because a rat has a two-year lifespan, so three generations, six years, right?

00:25:35.000 But for humans, it's going to be A much longer time.

00:25:41.000 So, meanwhile, before these things are totally cleared up, we have to limit their invasion, I call it, invasion of these chemicals into our bodies by educating ourselves and educating our friends and our neighbors, like talking on this show, which is what I'm trying to do.

00:26:02.000 And, you know, Turning to, I have to say, alternative means of conception.

00:26:16.000 Oh, no.

00:26:17.000 Alternative, even conception.

00:26:18.000 Listen, we're watching the chat right now, Doctor.

00:26:23.000 People, whilst they are not plainly enjoying being informed that there is immersive toxicity being absorbed through our skin, through numerous products, through everything that we touch, and that it's having such an evident and observable, detrimental, deleterious effect on our productivity and procreative capacity, there's a lot of love for your communication skills and for your message.

00:26:47.000 Imaginary Coffee, for example, saying simply, she's brilliant.

00:26:50.000 And people, Commending you for popularizing the idea that that which we absorb for our skin is being absorbed more broadly into our systems and people are sending you love and people are sick and tired of the regulations.

00:27:06.000 A lot of people think Gareth's question was childish and ineffective.

00:27:10.000 And they're very happy that I pressed that button that played the French horn sound.

00:27:15.000 Dr Shanna Swan, thank you so much for joining us.

00:27:19.000 Thank you for giving us this important information.

00:27:21.000 I'm going to take that laptop right off of my lap.

00:27:24.000 Shouldn't have the word lap in it.

00:27:25.000 I bet that's doing all sorts of downstairs damage, even as it sits there.

00:27:29.000 Thank you for joining us.

00:27:30.000 Thank you for the polite and appropriate way you've conveyed these difficult messages.

00:27:36.000 It's clear that there's a political component to this, a consumer component to this.

00:27:40.000 Ultimately, it will become about being conscious about what we're doing to our bodies and the way that we're consuming products and probably challenging the ideology that sees our roles primarily as consumers is going to be a big part of this.

00:27:52.000 Thank you, Doctor.

00:27:55.000 Thanks for having me.

00:27:56.000 Such a lovely person, thank you.

00:27:58.000 You can read more about Dr. Shanna's book, actually by getting it, and then read the book.

00:28:05.000 Read that, get it, and read it, and then do what it says in there.

00:28:08.000 It's called Countdown, How Our Modern World Is Threatening Sperm Counts, Altering Male and Female Reproductive Development, and Imperiling the Future of the Human Race, or as an acronym, I've reduced it to an acronym.

00:28:22.000 Okay.

00:28:22.000 Why not?

00:28:24.000 Also, though, well, what should we do now?

00:28:27.000 I mean, I think we've finished the show.

00:28:28.000 Yeah, that seems to... yep.

00:28:29.000 I mean, time has passed, hasn't it?

00:28:31.000 Time has passed.

00:28:32.000 Master of us all.

00:28:34.000 Time, you've got us in your arms once more!

00:28:38.000 Like Charles Grodin used to say in the film Beethoven.

00:28:41.000 BEETHOVEN! 1.00

00:28:43.000 You little motherfucker! 1.00

00:28:45.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

00:28:46.000 Didn't have phthalates to deal with in those days.

00:28:48.000 Well, they did, but they didn't know they did.

00:28:50.000 They were filling up little Beethoven's nutbag with phthalates. 0.51

00:28:53.000 That was probably the dawn of them, wasn't it?

00:28:55.000 The 80s? 0.99

00:28:55.000 Grodin sounds like the decay of the balls. 0.99

00:28:59.000 Right. 1.00

00:28:59.000 Oh no, I've got Grodin in me testes because of these phthalates. 1.00

00:29:03.000 You little motherfucker! 1.00

00:29:05.000 No, Gareth, I gave myself such joy when I... when I... 1.00

00:29:10.000 Because I'd forgotten what that button did, it just says Gareth's question.

00:29:13.000 When I pressed that while you were asking a really insightful, brilliant and on-message question for the type of framing that we like to offer on our show.

00:29:23.000 Yeah, that's what I was trying to do, yeah.

00:29:24.000 Well you did do that, and then when I heard this.

00:29:26.000 Right underneath it.

00:29:30.000 And like, also with Dr Shadder Swan, who's obviously such a good sport, but plainly Like anyone doesn't understand what the hell's going on.

00:29:39.000 I think it's only you that does, to be honest.

00:29:41.000 I've got a master plan.

00:29:42.000 I hope so.

00:29:43.000 It's all going extremely well.

00:29:45.000 It's actually what we're supposed to be doing, so no one needs to worry at all about anything, really.

00:29:50.000 I like panela for sugar.

00:29:52.000 It's very unprocessed and dark and tastes wonderful in coffee, says Little Renegade.

00:29:56.000 No aftertaste, I'll try.

00:29:58.000 Then there's people talking about BO.

00:29:59.000 Do you like burgers, BO?

00:30:00.000 I like mine too.

00:30:02.000 I still wear it so I don't smell in public, LOL.

00:30:04.000 You're BO.

00:30:05.000 Gone from latex to silicone for medical supplies.

00:30:08.000 Anyway, they're all chatting in here, this community.

00:30:11.000 They all love each other in here.

00:30:12.000 Did you know that?

00:30:13.000 You can join this community, by the way.

00:30:14.000 Press that red button on your screen and join a beautiful group of international folk who are interested in progress, tolerance, acceptance and love, innovative ideas.

00:30:22.000 Are you like that?

00:30:23.000 Well, you can join this community as well.

00:30:26.000 Have you had just about enough of the system?

00:30:28.000 Join this community, you'll love it.

00:30:29.000 Join us for Community, a live event on the borders between Wales and England.

00:30:35.000 A beautiful river, freshwater swimming.

00:30:37.000 Probably get a big bunch of phthalates up your nutbag. 1.00

00:30:40.000 Yeah.

00:30:40.000 Won't you, probably?

00:30:41.000 Maybe in the water, yeah.

00:30:43.000 But not in our community.

00:30:45.000 That's not something we promote, but it's something that seems immersive and environmental.

00:30:49.000 That's part of the issue.

00:30:51.000 It's raining phthalates now, you know.

00:30:53.000 It's raining phthalates?

00:30:54.000 It's raining phthalates, yeah.

00:30:55.000 I liked it when it was raining men! 1.00

00:30:57.000 Hallelujah, it's raining phthalates! 0.84

00:31:00.000 My nutbag is retracting!

00:31:02.000 Beethoven! 0.58

00:31:04.000 Okay.

00:31:06.000 That okay means it's the end of the show, isn't it?

00:31:09.000 All right, listen, we're going to go now, because it's time to.

00:31:12.000 And also it's Man City versus Arsenal tonight.

00:31:15.000 Oh, look at that.

00:31:16.000 David Sirota just appeared.

00:31:17.000 That look that he's got on his face was like, listen, guys, why do you keep talking about Snoop Dogg and Beethoven?

00:31:24.000 Come on, you can do better than this.

00:31:26.000 Look, I'm trying my very best over at the lever to create conversation, genuine conversation, if you will, around important subjects.

00:31:32.000 Anyway, we'll be talking to David Sirota tomorrow.

00:31:34.000 There he is.

00:31:35.000 Look, you can see him in his shirt, looking nice.

00:31:37.000 He's good, isn't he?

00:31:38.000 He's fantastic.

00:31:39.000 He's really good.

00:31:40.000 You'll enjoy it.

00:31:41.000 Join the locals community.

00:31:42.000 Press the red button on your screen now.

00:31:44.000 I think there's a version of it that's free then there's another bit we pay a bit of money and for that you can tell me what to do.

00:31:49.000 Right.

00:31:50.000 Like tell me to do a guided meditation and by God I'll do it.

00:31:53.000 Oh, anything?

00:31:54.000 Just the meditation.

00:31:55.000 I'll probably go further than you might imagine, because I'm edgy.

00:31:58.000 Tootsies out, will it?

00:32:00.000 The tootsies will come right out, but some people didn't like that.

00:32:02.000 They thought I was marked a low point in the trajectory of Stay Free with Russell Brand, I think, when they saw them.

00:32:07.000 Today I've got a little white tube sock on the feet, so people probably prefer that.

00:32:13.000 Do they?

00:32:14.000 I don't know.

00:32:14.000 Although Dan, over there operating that camera there, says that a sock is merely a condom for the foot.

00:32:19.000 But that makes me wonder, what exactly is he doing with his foot?

00:32:23.000 And where are all these phallets coming from, Dan? 1.00

00:32:27.000 How's it getting in my dinner?

00:32:30.000 What's that in my dinner?

00:32:31.000 A thought condom?

00:32:33.000 Oh dear.

00:32:33.000 Dan, what have you been doing to Russell's dinner?

00:32:35.000 Beethoven, you motherfucker! 1.00

00:32:37.000 You put phallics in my food! 1.00

00:32:41.000 You can get meditation from me.

00:32:43.000 In spite of appearances, I know how to access the innermost realms.

00:32:47.000 Sounds like it.

00:32:47.000 I do know how!

00:32:49.000 I do know how!

00:32:50.000 It's not by doing the Beethoven thing, is it?

00:32:53.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:32:54.000 Meditate, you little motherfucker! 1.00

00:32:56.000 I don't do that. 1.00

00:32:57.000 Right.

00:32:57.000 That's not how meditations are.

00:32:59.000 No.

00:32:59.000 They're not like that.

00:33:00.000 Oh, good.

00:33:00.000 You use language as a kind of royal road for the deep unconscious pre-linguistic mind, actually, and respiratory practices as well.

00:33:08.000 Now, over time, if not mastered them, learned a great deal about them by meditating with some of the best teachers currently alive who themselves are passing on a

00:33:17.000 great heritage, a forgotten knowledge that has been disavowed and forgotten and replaced with

00:33:22.000 apparently phallates, ignorance, propaganda and nonsense.

00:33:26.000 Well we must return to this golden age and in order to do that we must first acknowledge

00:33:31.000 there's a problem, believe it's possible to change and then make a deep vow to ourselves

00:33:36.000 and one another to bring about the necessary revolution.

00:33:39.000 And it's already begun.

00:33:40.000 You're further along than you think.

00:33:42.000 You're better than you know.

00:33:43.000 Don't let them destroy you.

00:33:46.000 Together we are powerful.

00:33:47.000 Beethoven!

00:33:50.000 Alright, we're off now.

00:33:51.000 You've got another show tomorrow, and then another one the day after that, and then perhaps a couple of days off.

00:33:56.000 And then?

00:33:57.000 Back again for another one!

00:34:00.000 46 weeks a year!

00:34:00.000 That's it!

00:34:01.000 46 weeks!

00:34:02.000 And we love it!

00:34:04.000 I love it!

00:34:04.000 What else are we going to do?

00:34:05.000 Sit on the ground, look at the sky, drink ourselves full of phallates to our sperms just lay about on the microscope lens doing F-all?

00:34:13.000 No.

00:34:14.000 It's not what you want, is it?

00:34:15.000 You want vibrant guys hustling and bustling like a New York City minute.

00:34:18.000 Look at my sperms jostling up against each other like little champions down there. 1.00

00:34:24.000 That's what you want, huh? 0.99

00:34:26.000 Ever seen your own sperm under a microscope? 0.99

00:34:28.000 Not yet, no. 0.98

00:34:28.000 Come around mine tonight. 0.98

00:34:29.000 Is that what we're doing?

00:34:30.000 Yeah, we will study those little guys!

00:34:32.000 I'm not going to use a microscope, I'm just going to peer at them like that.

00:34:35.000 I'm just going to squint.

00:34:36.000 Like, I see them!

00:34:37.000 Yeah, there they are.

00:34:38.000 There they are, those little guys.

00:34:41.000 You feel for them, don't you, when you see them going up the fallopian tubes, trying their best, you know?

00:34:45.000 Like, they're really trying their best.

00:34:47.000 Yeah.

00:34:47.000 They're doing their best in there, those guys.

00:34:49.000 100 million.

00:34:50.000 Yep, I've sent them into action and the results so far, promising.

00:34:55.000 Okay, guys, we're going to go now.

00:34:56.000 I hope you've had a nice time.

00:34:58.000 This is not even the opportunity to show you me working with a baboon. 1.00

00:35:02.000 Simply not time.

00:35:03.000 No, another time.

00:35:05.000 We've got plenty of shows.

00:35:06.000 We've got the whole future laid out ahead of us to examine baboons, haven't we? 1.00

00:35:10.000 And that's probably what we'll do.

00:35:11.000 I hope you've learned a lot.

00:35:12.000 We'll do, if you want, we'll post the video about Joe Biden and all that stuff on Rumble.

00:35:18.000 Why are you laughing?

00:35:19.000 I thought you were going to say baboons, but no.

00:35:21.000 Post the video about baboons on Rumble later. 0.99

00:35:23.000 No, we'll just talk about that another day.

00:35:25.000 Do that another day, shall we?

00:35:27.000 Bye then!

00:35:30.000 Join us tomorrow on Rumble, not for more of the same, but for more of the different, yeah?

Stay Free - Russel Brand - April 30, 2023

Dr Shanna Swan (Plastic Crisis: How Chemicals are Affecting Human Fertility)

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