Biden sends $400 million worth of tanks to Ukraine. Is this a proxy war? Or is this part of a Russian psyop? And why should we care? Russell Brand takes a look at it, and talks to journalist Kim Iverson about the possibility that it's all Russian disinformation. Stay Free With Russell Brand is out now on all of the social medias, if you're watching this on YouTube, the first 10 minutes will be here, then we'll be over on Rumble with Good Cause where we're talking about new revelations from a Pfizer executive that it would only be responsible, frankly, to talk about on Rumble because they've not yet been verified, but if they become verified, I'm terrified it's extraordinary big news. Big, big news that will only be repressed in one way or another. This better be Russian psyops, because if it's not, this better be real, right? And we'll have a chat with Kim about it, too, because she's a brilliant journalist and a brilliant contributor to this conversation in particular. Stay Free with Russell Brand, and we'll talk about this story, and much more on this week's episode of Stay Free! Subscribe to stay free with Russell on Stay Free on YouTube here. If you're not subscribed yet, subscribe on Rumble on your favourite streaming platform, hit that RUMBLE button right now, and if you haven't subscribed yet subscribe to Rumble yet subscribe on your favorite streaming platform. You're not getting much more than that, you're missing out. And remember, you'll be helping us make the world a better place to understand what's going on in the world, and how to make a difference to the world we live in a world where we can all be a little bit more of a place where everyone has a voice and not just one more of us all can have a voice, not less of a voice to help us all have a say in the conversation, and a little more of that, more of what matters. - Russell Brand's voice matters, and more of it helps us make a voice that matters more than one more. . Thank you, Russell - stay free, more often than not less, thank you, more and more, more than you know what you need to be heard, more like that? - Fyzer Timestamps: 0:00 - What's a good day in the future?
00:01:38.000Thanks for joining me today on Stay Free with Russell Brand.
00:01:41.000If you're watching this on YouTube, the first 10 minutes will be here, then we'll be over on Rumble with good cause because we're talking about new revelations from a Pfizer executive that it would only be responsible, frankly, to talk about on Rumble because they've not yet been verified.
00:01:57.000If they become verified, I'm terrified.
00:02:08.000He seems to me like he'd come in straight out of Moscow.
00:02:12.000We've got all sorts of stuff to tell you.
00:02:14.000If you are watching us on Rumble right now, thank you so much.
00:02:17.000We are now at 900,000 awakening Rumblers.
00:02:21.000Hit that rumble button right now, and if you're not subscribed on rumble yet subscribe on rumble right now It helps us in ways that I'll never truly understand.
00:02:28.000One thing I do understand is how to frame a proxy war.
00:02:32.000One thing I do understand is how to enrich a military-industrial complex.
00:02:36.000That's by crushing dissent, smearing dissenters, not allowing sensible debate, not considering the possibility of a nuclear apocalypse, not acknowledging NATO's responsibility in the exacerbation of this condition, continually reporting that Putin's some pants-pooping loon, which doubtlessly he is, because Biden is sending some tanks to Ukraine in order, I hope, to preserve the lives of Ukrainian people.
00:02:59.000Let me know what you think about this story in the chat, in the comments.
00:03:02.000But also, the company that he's chosen have good cause to be favoured by him, because, well, check it out.
00:03:41.000I'm just saying that when you find yourself in a situation where you suddenly need a tank, you're going to turn to your pals over at General Dynamics for your Not a Proxy War.
00:03:50.000These are some of the questions I'll be talking to Kim Iverson about a little later.
00:05:25.000Maybe the world is the way that they portray it.
00:05:27.000Do you ever ask yourself these questions?
00:05:28.000God knows you probably have mental health struggles.
00:05:30.000How could you not have a mental health struggle in this world that seems designed to exacerbate mental health struggles?
00:05:35.000In a world where Biden will just glibly appoint a chief of staff that's made 400 million dollars from healthcare companies that have potentially frauded the American people.
00:05:45.000Certainly they've settled out of court around fraudulent cases.
00:05:48.000Who's sat on the board of a big tech company that's been spreading disinformation and they celebrate this appointment and they call it democracy.
00:05:55.000When I see a speech like this from Zelensky...
00:05:58.000And again, I'm not criticising him as an individual, and I'm certainly not being glib about the suffering of Ukrainian people, but listen to the way he lists the contributors to the rebuild of Ukraine after the presumed peace that may eventually yet come.
00:06:27.000Where is there an area where I'm an expert?
00:06:28.000But listen, he lists these organisations, but when we tell you about these organisations that are being feted, oh man, check it out, listen to Zelensky.
00:08:08.000Larry Fink's over campaigning in WEF or Easy Deals.
00:08:12.000Spent two and a half million on lobbying.
00:08:14.000I mean, these... Maybe you think I'm being naive about the nature of the world and the systems that govern and control us, but I don't think I am.
00:08:21.000I'm questioning the nature of these systems that benefit from ongoing war and replacing diplomacy with yet more profiteering.
00:08:27.000Yeah, and this comes out literally a few days after we saw Boris Johnson over in Ukraine receiving an award and talking about how the UK will be with Ukraine for as long as it takes and that we have interest in being part of the reconstruction of Ukraine.
00:08:42.000We had BlackRock announcing being part of the reconstruction.
00:08:44.000This word that they keep using, reconstruction of Ukraine.
00:08:47.000Then a few days later you find out that all these companies, the Goldman Sachs, the BlackRocks, all of those, that's now the plan.
00:08:53.000It's difficult not to see this as a new form of colonisation.
00:08:56.000I hate to be cynical about this, or the privatisation of Ukraine.
00:09:01.000Let me know what you think in the chat, let me know what you think in the comments.
00:09:03.000I've struggled to hold in my head the narrative that what this is is, oh no, Russia have unprovoked attacked Ukraine, we must do something to help Ukrainian people.
00:09:13.000Oh look, all the ways we're helping Ukrainian people are hugely profitable, in the same way that I can't see as a coincidence that the pandemic czar, Jeff Zients or Zientes has become the chief of staff who has
00:09:25.000profited to an enormous extent from healthcare companies who have been accused of fraud,
00:09:29.000who sat on the board of big tech companies. It's like the old woman who swallows a fly.
00:09:32.000There's all of these revolving doors. There's nothing but a spectral spin of fractal interconnected organizations,
00:09:40.000institutions that when we talk about the elite, this is the elite we're talking about, the corporate elite, the state
00:09:46.000elite, and look at how they collaborate.
00:09:48.000We gave you, I think we're talking in one of our presentations next week about BlackRock piloting or using Ukraine as a CBDB lab.
00:10:00.000I get confused between cannabis oil and children's shows in Britain that are called CBBs.
00:10:06.000Central currencies is what we're talking about.
00:10:07.000If it was cannabis oil, we'd be advertising it.
00:10:09.000If it was children's TV, I'd be on it.
00:10:14.000I've said too many strange, strange things.
00:10:18.000This is another of the things that Ukraine is being used to pilot.
00:10:21.000I don't think a war-torn nation ought not be the scene and setting for profiteering, aid, care, compassion.
00:10:29.000That's why they use words like aid, care and compassion, because we still, in spite of everything, in spite of all the attempts to cajole and control us, remain connected to our spirit, to the understanding of what it is to be human, what we're supposed to be doing here, awakening, helping one another.
00:10:43.000We're not supposed to be here facilitating centralized control and authoritarian power and profiteering.
00:10:47.000It's also why they use the word reconstruct as well, isn't it?
00:10:50.000Because it doesn't actually, what does it actually mean, reconstruct?
00:10:52.000What they should be saying is these companies are coming in to help or to restabilize or something.
00:10:58.000But reconstruct suggests that, well, exactly what it is.
00:11:01.000I mean, when you find out BlackRock have used massive amounts of capital to buy up single family houses in the US, you know, that is BlackRock doing something that is really preventing a lot of Americans from owning homes.
00:11:11.000And now to celebrate the fact that They're going to be going in to reconstruct the Ukraine.
00:11:16.000I don't see how that can be celebrated in the way that it is.
00:11:18.000It's difficult, Gareth, to separate the demonstrable lack of ethics in acquiring real estate to a degree that manages and controls the market and prevents ordinary Americans having a home to live in.
00:11:30.000It's like, over here in America we're doing this stuff, but in Ukraine, suddenly, with Mother Teresa!
00:11:35.000Over Gordon Gekko at home out about Mother Teresa.
00:11:38.000What kind of superhero is Black Rock, for heaven's sake?
00:11:42.000Listen, we're gonna have to leave YouTube now because I feel the truth bubbling up inside of me.
00:12:05.000Whatever you may have heard about this platform, we are here in order to tell you the truth so you can determine for yourself whether centralized authoritarian interests are operating on your behalf or on behalf of major corporations.
00:13:54.000So this video from Project Veritas is of Pfizer executive Jordan Trishton claiming that his company is exploring a way to mutate COVID-19 through directed evolution.
00:14:06.000So I suppose that means, well, gain-of-function research is going on.
00:14:09.000I suppose it throws new light on how the pandemic originated or how coronavirus originated, whether it was the Wuhan lab or that disgusting, dirty, old, little, old wet market.
00:14:18.000I think the idea with this, isn't it, is that if Pfizer were involved in new viruses through gain of function, that then they would also have...
00:14:28.000Amazingly, they would have the solution to those viruses in the form of new vaccines.
00:14:31.000So it's a way of using the idea of pandemics and vaccines to line their pockets for decades and decades to come.
00:14:39.000If the fire department said, do you know how we can be sure that we can put out more fires?
00:14:45.000We could start them ourselves and then we would know where the fires are and exactly how to fight those.
00:14:52.000There's a lot of money in those flames, which seems to me to be an irresponsible way to go about protecting American people.
00:14:57.000Shall we have a look at some of this footage before we go to our brilliant presentation, which is about profiteering on vaccines, as you might imagine, coincidentally, and later we're talking to Kim Iverson.
00:15:12.000Is it the reason we're being cautious in case this is just hocus pocus madness, this guy's an actor, this is disinformation, this is Russian psyops?
00:15:31.000I think what we're trying to verify is that this guy is real, is one of the directors at Pfizer or whatever position he is at Pfizer, and I think there's a lot of people trying to do that activity at the moment.
00:15:40.000We're looking at things like LinkedIn and all that.
00:15:42.000Exactly and pages have been deleted and all sorts of things.
00:17:44.000Listen, we're going to be talking about this more with Kim Iverson, but now I've got a wonderful presentation based around a new report suggesting that vaccine makers didn't reveal information about the efficacy of their boosters.
00:17:55.000The same boosters that you, if you're a taxpayer in America, Paid for.
00:17:59.000And by the way, the fact that Moderna were, I think, 100% funded by taxpayer money when it came to... Correct.
00:18:04.000I mean, there should be no profit at all, should there?
00:18:06.000Let me know in the chat in the comments.
00:18:07.000If an endeavor is funded by the taxpayer, on what basis are they extracting profit from it?
00:18:32.000Mainstream media are preventing their own medical experts from accurately reporting on potential COVID problems.
00:18:38.000Meanwhile, they continue to repress information about vaccine efficacy.
00:18:42.000This is what happens when you politicize information and create a category called disinformation, which essentially gives you the opportunity to censor.
00:18:53.000One of their own medical experts, Dr. Liana Nguyen, came on the show to discuss potential excess deaths and the complications of that.
00:19:00.000And CNN, because they have made the vaccine and coronavirus more broadly a political issue that is bipartisan and is attached to things like good and evil and rather peculiar and outdated ideas of ethics and morality, they can't have an honest and open conversation.
00:19:17.000Have a look at that conversation right now.
00:19:20.000In a Washington Post op-ed, Senate Medical Analyst and former Baltimore Health Commissioner, Dr. Lena Nguyen asks, are some of these Americans dying from COVID or with COVID?
00:19:32.000Do you remember when the phrase from COVID or with COVID used to be the same as saying, I believe that lizards from another dimension are running the government?
00:19:43.000This shows you how the conversation is advancing and changing, and how the mainstream media and the establishment continue to grapple with the problems that availability of information presents us with.
00:19:53.000But because it was politicised, because it was turned into an almighty, bipartisan, mind-control bonanza, it's impossible to have an honest and open conversation.
00:20:07.000No one has the exact same set of criteria by which to live their lives.
00:20:11.000Therefore, we all need to just be given the information to make the decisions for ourselves.
00:20:15.000It should be no more controversial to make a decision based on what's best for you around certain medications than it is to say, I like tacos or I don't like tacos.
00:20:25.000It's people that don't like tacos that's causing all this problem now?
00:20:29.000This was something that was discussed by people like Brett Weinstein.
00:20:41.000All these kind of things were out there from really early on.
00:20:44.000And I suppose that people that are naturally cynical, or skeptical at least, about the machinations of power, like myself, thought, hmm, I wonder if what this is, is this grants government the opportunity to regulate and control, Big Pharma the opportunity to make money, the surveillance industry the opportunity to surveil and propose ideas that Digital ID that would never have been able to get off the ground without it, and these interests are converging.
00:21:09.000But what I'm interested in is making evaluations based on available evidence and the fact that that has now become marginalised as a viewpoint is really difficult because information keeps coming out to suggest that all of the hysteria, this is a problem of the unvaccinated, if you're not vaccinated you're responsible for other people being ill, all of this stuff, because it doesn't seem like it was true, is starting to fall apart.
00:21:31.000People have alloyed themselves to these ideas beyond what they should have done as a news organisation.
00:21:37.000News is not supposed to be politicised in that way.
00:21:40.000All of us have our biases, of course we do.
00:21:42.000But when you're in the role of a news broadcaster, particularly for a mainstream media organisation, mass media, let alone taxpayer funded media in countries like mine, You have a responsibility to say, hey, this group of people think this, this group of people think that.
00:21:55.000We don't have a moral perspective on that because it's not a moral issue.
00:21:58.000What they tried to do is make it a moral issue by highlighting the areas where, if it were true, it could potentially be argued that it is moral.
00:22:04.000But that's all sort of fallen apart, hasn't it?
00:22:07.000Now we find ourselves in the position of having to extricate the politicization of this issue and pretending like it didn't happen.
00:22:15.000There's all of these shadows and echoes of the propaganda that went on in the last couple of years, and we're going to have to call it propaganda.
00:22:29.000Can you explain why you believe COVID deaths are being over-counted?
00:22:33.000I think it's important for us to be intellectually honest in this case, and that includes recognizing that circumstances have changed.
00:22:41.000At the beginning of the pandemic, we had a situation where there were many people dying from COVID pneumonia, including healthy young people were dying because of severe shortness of breath, difficulty breathing.
00:22:53.000Then as a result of vaccines and as a result of A lot of people getting COVID and having some level of immunity to it, we're seeing far fewer cases of that kind of severe COVID and severe COVID pneumonia specifically.
00:23:07.000So the doctor appears to be saying that vaccines were to some degree effective, that natural immunity is effective and that the problem simply isn't as bad anymore.
00:23:16.000But it seems that there's an ideological attachment to some of these ideas that never ought to have been ideological.
00:23:23.000This, I would argue, is one of the problems when science becomes a subset of capitalism.
00:23:27.000When pharmaceutical companies make more money from investing in their own stocks and shares, as Pfizer do, than making medical products.
00:23:33.000When pharmaceutical companies act as a monopoly with such an incentive for profit, with such a duty to their shareholders, and let's call it the systems of profit to which they are attached, there's almost a detachment from the actual purpose.
00:23:45.000What we are supposed to be doing is dealing with an illness.
00:23:48.000I suppose what we have to decide is if the cost-benefit analysis is coming down in our favour.
00:23:54.000Are lockdowns going to ultimately cause more...
00:23:56.000The mainstream media are preventing their own medical experts from
00:24:10.000accurately reporting on potential COVID problems.
00:24:13.000Meanwhile, they continue to repress information about vaccine efficacy.
00:25:14.000Next time he comes back, he'll be wearing a white coat, Pfizer badge.
00:25:17.000And she and her colleagues found that in cases of hospitalizations that do not involve dexamethasone, It's very unlikely that the primary cause is COVID.
00:25:27.000So they're reporting both the total hospitalizations with COVID as well as the total hospitalizations with dexamethasone.
00:26:00.000That helps hospitals better gauge what's going on in their own system and it allows people to understand their own risks a lot better too.
00:26:07.000I talked to a lot of health officials about this who are actually kind of skeptical of this claim that you're making and I think one big thing has been what is the evidence Well, this is the reason why this kind of transparent reporting is going to be so important.
00:26:19.000There is a way for us to look at death certificates and also to look at the medical records of individuals prior to their death.
00:26:26.000And I think this needs to be separated into three categories.
00:26:29.000One is the COVID as a direct contributor, the primary cause of death.
00:26:35.000The second is, could it be a secondary contributing cause?
00:26:38.000So for example, somebody with kidney disease, COVID then pushes them over the edge to have kidney failure.
00:27:51.000And that's what you should have said from the first place.
00:27:54.000That's exactly right, and I think that's why we need to have this accurate accounting.
00:27:58.000What's mad is them in silence, because it's like listening to people being told, you know what you've been doing for the last couple of years?
00:28:28.000If we find that the people who are getting severely ill are all individuals with certain underlying medical conditions, but not others, that allows us to better advise those individuals to take special precautions.
00:29:20.000Some vaccine advisers to the federal government say they're disappointed and angry that government scientists and the pharmaceutical company Moderna didn't present a set of infection data on the company's new COVID-19 booster during meetings last year when the advisers discussed whether the shot should be authorised and made available to the public.
00:29:36.000Okay, so we're just discussing whether or not this profitable medicine should be authorized, one, and two, made available to the public so we can use their taxpayer dollars to buy it, therefore increasing the values of your product.
00:29:57.000I just, could you, put Don Lemon on the TV, see what he's got to say.
00:30:00.000That data suggested the possibility that the updated booster might not be any more effective at preventing COVID-19 infections than the original shot.
00:30:10.000The data was early and had many limitations, but several advisors told CNN that they were concerned about a lack of transparency.
00:30:17.000I was angry to find out there was data that was relevant to our decision that we didn't get to see, said Dr. Paul Offit, a member of the Vaccines and Related Biological Product Advisory Committee, a group of external advisors that helps the FDA make vaccine decisions.
00:30:31.000Decisions that are made for the public have to be made based on all available information, not just some information, but all information.
00:31:07.000But I would suggest that there's a lot to learn from the way that the pandemic unfolded and the way that the media behaved and the way the establishment behaved and the way that we all behave perhaps with regard to the conversation.
00:31:16.000And all that was ever required was openness and transparency.
00:31:20.000More than six months after the FDA advisors met, Moderna still has not released data from a randomized phase 3 trial comparing infections in participants who received the new booster with those who received the old shot.
00:31:30.000So presumably that information was not advantageous to their explicit agenda to make money.
00:32:17.000A former FDA scientist who helped run the agency's vaccine division told CNN that if he was still at the agency, he would have advocated for sharing the infection information with the advisors, even if it was made available only a short time before the meeting.
00:32:29.000The company's failure to present this information at the FDA advisors meeting and the omission of discussion about the data at that meeting raises questions about the ability of the process to provide a full and transparent review of the data, he added.
00:32:40.000About a month after the CDC advisors met, studies were released from researchers at Harvard and Columbia suggesting that the new vaccines didn't work any better than the original.
00:32:49.000We essentially see no difference between the old boosters and the new about a month after the shot, said Dr. David Ho, a professor of microbiology and immunology at Columbia, whose team authored one of the studies.
00:33:01.000Basically, it's like the Matrix films.
00:33:03.000They should have stopped after the first one.
00:33:04.000President Joe Biden and other administration officials continue to emphasize that the updated booster is the best way to avoid hospitalization or death from COVID-19, but nearly four months after its release, only 15.4% of the US population aged five and older has opted to get the shot, according to CDC data.
00:33:19.000So presumably 85% of the population are sceptical about the information that they receive from their government and the mainstream media.
00:33:26.000And given that this booster cost $5 billion, I wonder what is causing this cynicism, and more importantly, how on earth do they continue to control the narrative so So effectively, the CDC played a direct role in policing permissible speech on social media throughout the COVID-19 pandemic.
00:33:41.000Confidential emails obtained by Reason show that Facebook moderators were in constant contact with the CDC and routinely asked government health officials to vet claims relating to the virus, mitigation efforts such as masks and vaccines.
00:33:53.000The Facebook files reveal that the CDC had substantial influence over what users were allowed to discuss on Meta's platforms, Facebook and Instagram.
00:34:01.000Meta gave the CDC de facto power to police COVID-19 misinformation on the platforms.
00:34:06.000The CDC took the position that essentially any erroneous claim could contribute to vaccine hesitancy and cause social harm.
00:34:12.000This was a recipe for a vast silencing across Facebook and Instagram at the federal government's implicit behest.
00:34:18.000How many of you felt the information was being silenced, the conversation was being shut down?
00:34:22.000Also, if Facebook is a de facto arm of the CDC, the idea that it's a private platform
00:34:27.000where users can have a conversation is a misleading, disingenuous and simply untrue one.
00:34:33.000It's ultimately a mouthpiece for a government agency.
00:34:36.000And obviously the Twitter files seem to reveal similarly that infiltration by deep state
00:34:41.000organisations and other government bodies and indeed corporate interests, if not absolute,
00:35:02.000It's not a conspiracy theory to ask questions, to have doubts, to demand access to all of the data, the right to make your own decisions, to speak freely about medical matters that should not have been politicised in the first place.
00:35:14.000It should never have left the domain of utility.
00:35:29.000Whether you're a Trump person or a Biden person, we don't believe in any political organizations because they continually let you down because of their affiliations with Big Pharma, Big Tech, Private, Finance.
00:35:39.000You might not trust any of them at all.
00:35:43.000If they'd said that, I'd be out of a job.
00:35:45.000Really all we're talking about is transparency, open adult communication.
00:35:48.000Things are being needlessly politicized in order to create conflict so that people are confused and you can marginalize people and distract people and importantly that you are regarded by the powerful as a kind of big Hairy child that needs to be managed and governed, pacified and distracted rather than an autonomous free adult.
00:36:07.000And if your entire culture and nation is built on freedom and liberty, individual freedom and the right to choose who you are and what you do, as long as you're not hurting other people, then I think we're at a moment of great reckoning.
00:36:18.000And that is what people are trying to avoid.
00:36:20.000They're trying to avoid the fallout of the mistakes that were made during the pandemic.
00:36:36.000A lot of you in the comments pointing out that I very foolishly pressed one of the stings, the one I use when Gareth asks a question to our guests, the French horn one.
00:36:45.000Specifically, in fact, where is that thing?
00:37:13.000This guest has joined us before and always elevates the conversation as well as creates, I would say, a kind of effervescence of energy, Gareth.
00:38:07.000Although we are one of the few media organizations that are not corrupt, that can be relied upon to convey truth for reasons other than the generation of revenue and because of our long established relationships with other systemic and
00:38:21.000Kim, you must have seen that video of the Pfizer exec blagging about gain of function,
00:38:28.000research, talking about the revolving door between the FDA and Pfizer and all of the things that we
00:38:33.000suspect are going on appear to be true. Firstly, do you think this video is legit and what's your
00:38:37.000take on it, mate? Yeah, I mean, I'm sure it's legitimate.
00:38:41.000Project Veritas always ends up winning their cases in court when they're sued, when people say that they're spreading fake news and they actually don't.
00:38:51.000Whether or not this guy Jordan is actually, and I think his name is Jordan Tristan Walker, whether or not he's actually high up in the company, you know, I'm not 100% certain about that, but what he's talking about is not actually called gain of function.
00:39:32.000They're saying, well, we're just trying to learn more about the viruses so that in the future, when we have a virus jump from a bat to a person, we will be able to, you know, I don't know, they could list off all the things that they think they would be able to do based on that knowledge.
00:39:46.000But we saw that that didn't really pan out exactly when it came to the pandemic.
00:39:51.000So when it comes to directed evolution what they're trying to do in this is figure out how viruses mutate because you know every year the flu mutates and it changes and so they have to come up with a new flu shot and and what they're doing when they come out with that new flu shot is they're guessing on how the flu is going to mutate that year.
00:40:10.000And so they're trying to get in front of it and then they're wanting to give you the flu shot and sometimes they get it wrong.
00:40:18.000So what they're doing now, what he's claiming is that they're doing this directed evolution over at Pfizer.
00:40:24.000So they're trying to get ahead of COVID, figuring out how is it going to mutate.
00:40:28.000So what they're doing is they're injecting this sort of like gain-of-function but a little bit different They're injecting the virus into monkeys.
00:40:34.000They're allowing the monkeys to spread the virus all around.
00:40:37.000And they're looking to see, okay, how is it mutating so that we can then formulate a new shot
00:40:42.000to combat this new, what we think will be the new variation of it.
00:40:48.000Of course, that could run totally amok the same way gain of function can run amok.
00:40:53.000When you mess around with the virus, with gain of function, and you're actually manipulating it,
00:40:58.000you could end up with potentially a COVID-19 pandemic, which many of us think is maybe what happened.
00:41:03.000So when it comes to directed evolution, what they're doing is,
00:41:07.000that obviously could be dangerous because if you're allowing it to spread
00:41:10.000throughout the monkeys and not inside of humans, it could very well deviate in its evolution,
00:41:16.000not the way that it would evolve inside of humans, but it could evolve differently in monkeys or rats
00:41:21.000or whatever it is they're using to allow it to spread to then study how it evolves.
00:41:26.000So you could end up with a much more deadly virus for humans that then of course escapes the lab and then goes and circulates all around and it's still COVID-19 but it's one that is potentially more deadly maybe deadly for younger groups like it's a very dangerous so first of all it's a very dangerous thing to be doing but they've been doing this a lot this has been going on for a long time with a variety of other viruses and other ailments not just viruses so
00:42:01.000And it also, you know, what he was saying is, well, then we could get in front of it and make money.
00:42:05.000I don't know if they're making new viruses to, you know, I have a hard time believing that the scientists that are in the lab are thinking, how can we make a bunch of money?
00:42:15.000I think that's the executives, right, that are sitting in the boardrooms.
00:42:18.000So I don't know if the scientists are doing it from that perspective.
00:42:21.000The scientists are probably thinking, well, Okay, we want to make sure that we're bringing out the best booster dose available that's going to combat the strain that's actually circulating.
00:42:33.000But I'm sure the executives are thinking, great, then we can get in front of it and we could be promoting this and saying we've got the exclusive vaccine that's going to be for the latest.
00:42:43.000virus that's coming out and of course this could all just completely backfire
00:42:47.000and Big Pharma just has a bunch of money to make and there's a possibility that
00:42:50.000this virus evolves itself away and do you think Big Pharma is going to be all
00:42:55.000about that? I don't think they're going to be wanting this virus to evolve
00:43:00.000itself out of existence. They're going to want to keep it going.
00:43:03.000There are some, in a sense Kim, there are some areas for speculation that seem important.
00:43:10.000The potential dangers of institutional thinking when pursuing such a potentially dangerous endeavour.
00:43:18.000If profit is built into your model, Then, as you say, at the level of scientific inquiry, nothing nefarious need happen.
00:43:28.000But when these institutions are governed and guided towards profitable experimentation rather than necessary experimentation, we're confronted, I think, with a series of potential moral and ethical problems.
00:43:42.000And on an even broader scale, None of us are invited into the conversation about whether we want gain of function or advanced evolution or any of these areas that appear to be being pursued because they are profitable rather than they are necessary.
00:43:58.000And this distinction between these spaces, which are often funded by taxpayers when required, and what is good for people seems to be an important one.
00:44:09.000I don't understand how it's become so, you know, why there's such a Synergy and symbiosis when it comes to the funding will take your taxpayer money.
00:44:16.000But when it comes to the agenda, it's directed towards what's profitable and is extracted from the process of democracy.
00:44:24.000By which I mean simply, no one's asking us if we want this stuff done.
00:44:29.000Whether or not this video is legit, we know the gain-of-function research is happening and the NIH admit that in shadowy, shady, vague places.
00:44:36.000And I feel that it's a demonstration of the way that we are regarded as Subjects of the corporate state power structures rather than participants in our own communities and lives.
00:44:49.000And that is the thing that troubles me most of all.
00:44:53.000I want to talk now about some of the sort of powerful figures that occupy this space.
00:44:58.000Bill Gates has spoken about potential future pandemics in a think tank, which usually, in my experience,
00:45:03.000these think tanks amount to little more than corporate-funded endeavors to PR particular agendas.
00:45:10.000And now that Anthony Fauci appears to be leaving the world stage, we
00:45:15.000are in need of new villains in this space.
00:45:19.000And I know that you're familiar with Jeremy Farah, who I feel is a scientist of sorts that
00:45:26.000is stepping into the spotlight in this area.
00:45:28.000We know he's at WEF and he has some interesting things to say about horizontal surveillance and other terrifying ideas.
00:45:35.000What do you think about some of these figures, you know, and could you touch on them both?
00:45:39.000Bill Gates and his role in pandemic response and new and evidently very influential figures like Jeremy Farrer and how this relates to digital ID programs and future pandemic responses.
00:45:52.000Yeah, we're in a very scary space with these guys running everything.
00:45:55.000You know, Bill Gates absolutely has an agenda.
00:45:59.000His agenda is that, I mean, and it's hard to know, you know, why does Bill Gates have such an agenda?
00:47:44.000Bill Gates and his influence monetarily in all of these organizations.
00:47:49.000Not only is he a large funder to the WHO as the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, but he's also a large funder to the other organizations that are large funders to the WHO.
00:47:59.000So he's got his hand everywhere when it comes to the response at the WHO.
00:48:05.000And the WHO now appointing Jeremy Farrar, you know, this guy is all about more surveillance.
00:48:13.000He thinks the answer is not just vaccines, he says, but really going hard on the surveillance measures.
00:48:21.000And that's what Bill Gates was essentially saying.
00:48:23.000He's saying that Australia did a great job because they had early he was he was talking about their ability to spot the virus early who had been infected and then get them into quarantine camps.
00:48:36.000Well, that's what this guy, Farrar, is talking about, right?
00:48:38.000He's saying when somebody walks into the room and they cough, it doesn't matter what the virus is.
00:50:52.000I've interviewed Tim Robbins and I know how to build a poster-oriented tunneling system with a Rita Hayworth image.
00:51:00.000I'll find a way out, Kim, and I will include you in this potential escape.
00:51:05.000When you see Bill Gates fetishize in authoritarianism, which is obviously the implementation of power, no point having power if you can't implement it, fighting the Australian response to the pandemic.
00:51:16.000And you hear the economic and financial ties that he has, not only through, as you've just explained, the Bill and Gates Melinda Foundation, but secondary foundations that similarly are funding the WHO.
00:51:26.000And then you hear Jeremy Farrar explaining how he would like to amend the current response to pandemics.
00:51:33.000I'd love to have a look at that clip, by the way, guys.
00:51:35.000And are you interested too, Kim, I'll ask you this again, after we have a look at Jeremy Farah, just so people can familiarise themselves with his face and his rhetoric, are you concerned about the way the use of the word pandemic is becoming more popularised and in fact more elastic and more plastic, like words like terror, words like war, new ways of heightening tension, Covid is not the only pandemic going on.
00:52:00.000Let's have a quick look at Jeremy Farah and then we'll move on to getting Kim's opinion
00:52:05.000on the mutation of the word pandemic, let alone the viruses that it's often used to
00:52:14.000And I've argued very strongly against us setting up new vertical systems to deal with future
00:52:21.000I would much rather we built the surveillance systems into horizontal ways of working, so that if you went in with your cough, whether it would be tuberculosis, or whether it be Covid, or whether it be influenza, or any of the other respiratory infections, that could be picked up in a horizontal system that's integrated into health systems in a strong way, and then that will be dealt with in the appropriate way.
00:52:44.000Now our producer explained to me that the word horizontal means that across the board so no matter what it is they wouldn't be like vertically it means we're just looking for one particular condition or virus horizontally we're looking for everything in a sense it means sort of perpetual pattern it seems like the way that in Orwellian speech we talk about perpetual war if that can't be continually ...militarized in an increasingly unipolar world, and that appears to be the aim elsewhere.
00:53:11.000It seems that the war has to be against ideas, ideologies, language, germs.
00:53:17.000It seems that this is a way of legitimizing authoritarianism, legitimizing surveillance, legitimizing digital ID.
00:53:24.000So it's interesting to get to know Jeremy Farah.
00:53:27.000Sir Jeremy Farrar, to give him his full title.
00:53:30.000I believe that he's a figure that you're familiar with.
00:53:32.000When you hear authoritarianism and surveillance in the same sentence discussed, of course I believe that was at the WEF, what kind of vision for the future do you think we're being offered, Kim?
00:53:43.000Yeah, well, it looks like this is just a new way to, you know, it's definitely a control tactic, keeping people afraid.
00:53:49.000As you've said, they've used all of these different words, terror, genocide, now pandemic.
00:53:55.000They know what it takes to keep us afraid.
00:53:57.000They know now what it takes to control certain segments of the population.
00:54:06.000A lot of people, Even when you would say, look, you already got XYZ number of shots, and you still got COVID, and they say, yeah, but it works.
00:54:24.000So they know fear is such a great way to control a population.
00:54:28.000And it feels like we're living under a new form of monarchy, right?
00:54:31.000It's like back in the day, the knights would ride around on their horses and they would have their weapons.
00:54:36.000And if you weren't behaving the way you were supposed to behave, then they would imprison you, you'd be punished, right?
00:54:43.000You knew that you were being watched in some way in these small little communities.
00:54:47.000And that, of course, has grown into police in cities and military occupations.
00:54:52.000And Now they're transferring that over into the digital world.
00:54:57.000They're surveilling us in a different way, and it's going to be through tech.
00:55:01.000They know that this is the way to control people.
00:55:03.000That is how they've always controlled people, starting from little villages all the way to these large now billions of people on the planet.
00:56:18.000They just know they need to tweak it a little to get the rest of us.
00:56:22.000It's interesting to note that Jeremy Farrer was one of the people that was included in the emails when the narrative was determined about the origins of the pandemic.
00:56:32.000Initially, there were three potential stories.
00:57:04.000I remember at the beginning of the pandemic how, of course, everybody felt concerned until it became, oh, well, this is something that's particular to particular groups of people.
00:57:16.000And it was evident that people did care.
00:57:17.000People were willing to be locked down.
00:57:18.000People were willing to take experimental medication in order to protect the sanctity of life.
00:57:23.000What I suppose many of us are querying is the way that this revealed that there is a desire, as you explained, to return to a kind of feudalism.
00:57:32.000That we talk in terms of democracy, but power acts.
00:57:35.000as if it's a top-down administrative system.
00:57:39.000In order to achieve that in a world where communication is possible and information is available,
00:57:44.000you have to create, you have to condemn dissenters, you have to control information,
00:57:48.000and it seems that that is the project that's being busily pursued in order to create
00:57:52.000new systems of feudalism, new sovereignty, to disempower people, even when it comes to our own bodies,
00:57:58.000till eventually we're just locked into metaverses, disembodied, disconnected, no spiritual connection,
00:58:25.000So yeah, we're exposing the truth and talking freely on Rumble, which is why I made the move over to Rumble, because I could finally cover topics I was not able to cover in depth, as you know, on YouTube without getting slapped.
00:59:09.000On tomorrow's show, we have yet another fantastic guest whose insights, brilliance and experience helped to shape the narrative for once in our favour.
00:59:21.000Martin Gurry is a former CIA analyst and the author of The Revolt of the Public.
00:59:26.000His book reveals that what centralised powers are dealing with is our new ability to access information in ways that exclude them.
00:59:34.000Our new ability to organise in ways that is not dependent on them.
00:59:38.000As our own Gareth Roy recently said, just 10-15 years ago, If you wanted to stop a revolt, it would have involved the military.
00:59:46.000Now you can stop a revolt by shutting down people's bank accounts, descending people, smearing dissenters, and shutting down people's ability to communicate.
00:59:53.000Martin Gurry is on our show tomorrow, and it's a fantastic way to wrap up the week.
00:59:58.000You are not going to want to miss that.
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